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Poland: Birch is not guilty of the crash of the Tu-154; there was a blast

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Another Polish commission "investigates" the case of the crash of the Tu-154 near Smolensk. Recall that we are talking about a plane crash that killed Polish President Lech Kaczynski, his wife and dozens of high-ranking Polish officials. The plane tried to land on the airfield of Smolensk Severny in conditions of poor visibility despite warnings from the air traffic controllers about the need to leave for the alternate aerodrome. The examination confirmed that at the time of the crash in the cockpit there was a stranger in a state of intoxication. When landing the plane touched the wing of the tree, after which there was a destruction of the aircraft.

Poland: Birch is not guilty of the crash of the Tu-154; there was a blast


The Polish side decided that the commission presented false conclusions, although experts from Poland itself were also present in the commission. A new group, "investigating" the case, now announces that it has studied the fragments of the wing of the Tu-154 and revealed the "explosive nature of the damage to the metal."
RIA News cites the statement of the next Polish commission:
During the last plenary session of the commission, headed by Kazimierz Novac, a position was agreed on the issue of time and the primary causes of the destruction of the left wing of the Tu-154M. The destruction of the left wing of the Tu-154M was not triggered by a collision with a birch. The destruction of the wing began before the birch. Numerous damage to the left wing of the Tu-154M aircraft are marked by explosions.


At the same time, the Polish side declares that it is necessary to ignore the fact of the possibility of interaction with the Russian side. Apparently, this way it is easier to pull by the ears any version that is in the interests of the current ruling elites in Poland.

Recall that earlier the commission exhumed the remains of President Kaczynski and his wife. The results of the exhumation in the press were not covered, apparently, for the simple reason that it was not possible to invent anything conspirological then. Now they invented a conspiracy about the explosion of an airplane wing and the “non-involvement” of neither a drunken general nor a birch to an airplane crash.
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  1. CentDo
    CentDo 9 August 2017 15: 08
    +29
    Of course, I can be mistaken, but according to this version there can be no complaints against Russia at all. Polish technicians were preparing the plane for departure, let them ask them. Or will they now say that the plane was shot down?
    1. spech
      spech 9 August 2017 15: 15
      +10
      Just someone "fart" pulled on board and the birch has nothing to do with it.
      PS -You have to stop it ..... in and dug up (stewardess) Kachinsky.
      1. AUL
        AUL 9 August 2017 18: 35
        +3
        PS -You have to stop it ..... in and dug up (stewardess) Kachinsky.
        And it turned out that he was first shot, and then poisoned!
    2. Thracian warrior
      Thracian warrior 9 August 2017 15: 20
      +1
      Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.
      1. Smog
        Smog 9 August 2017 15: 24
        +27
        Quote: Thracian warrior
        Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.

        Well then let them love birch. laughing
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 9 August 2017 15: 32
          +18
          Poland: Birch is not guilty of the crash of the Tu-154; there was a blast

          The Belarusian city of Birch breathed a sigh of relief! wassat
          1. cniza
            cniza 9 August 2017 15: 37
            +5
            Does anyone understand what they want or received a task from the USA - to find evidence of Russia's guilt ...?
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 9 August 2017 15: 41
              +6
              Quote: cniza
              task from the USA - to find evidence of Russia's guilt ...?

              the United States is guilty of the destruction of several countries and ????? all kinds of test tubes show, people hang, cities bomb, nuclear bombs are thrown off to civilians. By buoy them.
              And why should we listen to nonsense ???
              As there, Nevsky said: whoever comes to us with a sword, we will put him in the railway station and shove him.

              Us army!
              1. cniza
                cniza 9 August 2017 15: 45
                +4
                They (the USA) are creating a “bank of Russia's culprits” to impose sanctions, with the aim of obtaining economic benefits ...
              2. Khazarin
                Khazarin 10 August 2017 16: 53
                0
                Hto to us with what, that from that and that! What is translated as, if something has diminished for someone, it is not necessary that something should be added for someone!
            2. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 9 August 2017 15: 46
              +4
              Quote: cniza
              Does anyone understand what they want or received a task from the USA - to find evidence of Russia's guilt ...?

              Poland wants to do the impossible: to catch a black cat in a dark room that is not there. Good luck wandering in the dark!
              1. cniza
                cniza 9 August 2017 15: 48
                +4
                It seems, but then you can get into the "hole" yourself ...
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 9 August 2017 15: 55
                  +10
                  This hole in the Poles is called a “duplex”. lol
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 9 August 2017 15: 57
                    +2
                    Yeah, and there is a lot of "interesting".
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 9 August 2017 15: 59
                      +9
                      Dung beetles to help seekers of this "interesting". laughing
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 9 August 2017 16: 04
                        +3
                        Dung beetles benefit people, Polish politicians only harm ... good drinks
                    2. Jedi
                      Jedi 9 August 2017 16: 15
                      +9
                      Quote: cniza
                      Dung beetles benefit people, Polish politicians only harm ... good drinks

                      So I therefore advise them as assistants to the Poles: what if something useful will be taught? laughing
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 9 August 2017 16: 22
                        +2
                        Late, they can’t be taught anything, only in junk. lol
                2. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 9 August 2017 15: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: cniza
                  It seems, but then you can get into the "hole" yourself ...

                  Well, for that they dig her: "Do not dig another hole ..." yes
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 9 August 2017 16: 04
                    +2
                    They really want to get a "knee" in the ass.
              2. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 9 August 2017 16: 02
                +2
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                Poland wants to do the impossible

                Interestingly, will Kachinsky be dug up again?
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 9 August 2017 16: 11
                  +9
                  Only if by special requests and encore. wink
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 9 August 2017 16: 23
                    +2
                    These are capable of anything ...
                2. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 9 August 2017 16: 19
                  +5
                  Quote: Polite Elk
                  Interestingly, will Kachinsky be dug up again?

                  It is unlikely that after the first exhumation they quietly buried it back. It seems that Kaczynski himself sent them to ...! wassat
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 9 August 2017 16: 31
                    +2
                    And in Russian ... laughing
                3. Geisenberg
                  Geisenberg 9 August 2017 16: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Polite Moose
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  Poland wants to do the impossible

                  Interestingly, will Kachinsky be dug up again?


                  Let them dig it out. The main thing is that again they do not begin to abuse the corpse.
                4. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 9 August 2017 20: 03
                  +3
                  Quote: Polite Elk
                  Interestingly, will Kachinsky be dug up again?

                  Yes, in principle, how it goes. laughing It may even become a tradition. Well, yes: in any incomprehensible situation, scoop up the president. yes
            3. Damir
              Damir 9 August 2017 16: 24
              +1
              maybe for "Casus belli" ... blackmail ... povy (well, we understand) smiling ... wassat in the order of delirium I can assume that it really was not a birch, but a "Willow" ....
              1. marder7
                marder7 10 August 2017 14: 03
                0
                "willow" then was not there but was and is "Wasp"! soldier
            4. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 9 August 2017 16: 39
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              Does anyone understand what they want or received a task from the USA - to find evidence of Russia's guilt ...?


              They are idiots initially. A people whose show-off is above all. I won’t be surprised if it is revealed that they specially dropped their prezik if only there was a reason for the Russian Federation to blather.
              1. cniza
                cniza 9 August 2017 16: 45
                +2
                So to speak - with one blow of two birds with one stone ... there is something in it.
            5. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 August 2017 02: 43
              +7
              Quote: cniza
              Does anyone understand what they want or received a task from the USA - to find evidence of Russia's guilt ...?

              Dear, this is VO, and not a “kanalchik's dacha”, and all the more so, not Poland, here everyone, everyone has long understood hi
            6. Khazarin
              Khazarin 10 August 2017 16: 55
              0
              They run around the pillar, trying to catch up with their rear!
          2. Corporal Valera
            Corporal Valera 9 August 2017 18: 57
            0
            Quote: Thracian Warrior
            Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.

            Og. How is it with Nikolaev?

            And the fifth reason is pain, From the fact that love died ...

            Right popolar, I would say.
      2. Comrade Schucher
        Comrade Schucher 9 August 2017 15: 42
        +3
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        Psheks dislike Russia and they have a lot of reasons

        I agree with you, the number and scale received in the past Poland from Russia by the stars for "military hooliganism" simply amazes the imagination of modern Poles
      3. arane
        arane 9 August 2017 16: 23
        +1
        Quote: Thracian warrior
        Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.

        Can I list it?
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 9 August 2017 16: 41
          +1
          Quote: arane
          Quote: Thracian warrior
          Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.

          Can I list it?


          1. Home. They will remain pshkami. Even if it becomes Russia and all the last Russian.
      4. papas-57
        papas-57 9 August 2017 17: 09
        0
        They do not love anyone but themselves.
      5. utyutkin
        utyutkin 9 August 2017 17: 48
        +1
        the main reason is that Russia gave the Poles statehood!
      6. Juborg
        Juborg 9 August 2017 20: 04
        +1
        Poles, the most ungrateful nation! Today they stink of laundry soap, no matter how blasphemous it sounds.
      7. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 9 August 2017 22: 30
        0
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        Psheks dislike Russia and they have a bunch of reasons.

        Well, okay with them ....... they see Ivan Susanin, who drowned their army like kittens in Kostroma swamps, in every Russian they see. Why are you every 25 years swinging like a pendulum towards the West, forgetting that it was Russia that saved Bulgaria as a state and the Bulgarian people from restraining or total annihilation?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 9 August 2017 22: 54
          +5
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          they are Ivan Susanin, who sunk their army like kittens in Kostroma swamps, they see in every Russian.

          The SS men come to the village and demand that partisans be extradited. Everyone is silent. A boy runs out of the crowd:
          - Uncle, do you need partisans?
          - Yes, boy, will you fool? Hans, give the boy some candy!
          “I will, Uncle.”
          “Hans, give him some more candy.” Boy, what's your name?
          - Vanya Susanin.
          - What about dad?
          - Ivan.
          - And grandfather?
          - Also by Ivan. And my great-grandfather was called Ivan.
          - Hans! Take the sweets from this bastard!
    3. Monos
      Monos 9 August 2017 15: 23
      +5
      Dmitry, well, who is pulling you for your tongue? It is good to include logic. You will agree to the point that gentlemen (albeit Polish) cannot be trusted with a word. You're just some kind of xenophobe. Admit that you do not like the Poles? smile
    4. krops777
      krops777 9 August 2017 15: 27
      0
      Poland: Birch is not guilty of the crash of the Tu-154; there was a blast


      I don’t think that they want to achieve justice with a new investigation, rather cut down money from Russia.
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 9 August 2017 15: 40
      +1
      Political games on the blood and death of their own Poles. Nothing more ..
      Why
      Probably after this event
      "18.07.2017/12/59 (XNUMX:XNUMX)
      The Russian Defense Ministry for the first time published unique historical documents on the events of the liberation of the Polish Army in 1944-1945 "
      True, she always stabs and hurts. So they fantasize ..
      http://poland1944.mil.ru/
    6. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 15: 53
      +1
      There are many Puten agents among Polish technicians! wassat
    7. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 9 August 2017 16: 38
      +3
      A boot sticking out in the throat of an exhumed Kaczynski indicates that after a successful landing all the passengers were stunned to death by vicious Russian paratroopers.
    8. Alf
      Alf 9 August 2017 16: 39
      0
      Quote: CentDo
      Or will they now say that the plane was shot down?

      Yes Yes ! It is in Russia that there is a tradition of shooting down passenger aircraft with Bukami. Others apply zapadlo.
    9. g1v2
      g1v2 9 August 2017 17: 31
      +2
      The fact that the Poles would scream about sabotage was understandable when they were just starting this hype demanding to give up the wreckage. It was clear to them that the result of their investigation should have been the conclusion of the terrorist attack and the indictment of the whole of Russia. The far-flung conclusion about the explosion is the first step. The next will be the accusation of the Russian Federation of liquidating the Polish leadership by blowing up an airplane. Ours understand that this is a provocation, but so far we have the wreckage - you can easily call international experts and prove that the Poles are lying. But if we give up the wreckage, then we won’t be able to prove anything from the Boeing, since nobody will listen to us.
      1. Mu Dialer
        Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 18: 10
        0
        How to prove?
        They will tell us: did you pick your wreckage or not?
    10. little dirty trick
      little dirty trick 9 August 2017 17: 46
      0
      Quote: CentDo
      Of course, I can be mistaken, but according to this version there can be no complaints against Russia at all.

      clearly mistaken, birch from MANPADS on a possessed shmalnula
      1. Cutter
        Cutter 9 August 2017 19: 06
        +8
        "The destruction of the wing began before the birch." So the collision still was! And before the birch tree (how on time!) There was an explosive! The usual attempt to save the remnants of Pshetsk’s ambition is to blame for a certain detonator, not for the president’s retinue’s drunkenness, and the desire to sit in Smolensk in order to show that the Polish pilots in the world are flying and landing despite any dispatcher warnings! AGREED !!! fool
    11. Evil543
      Evil543 9 August 2017 20: 48
      +3
      I'm trying to conduct an investigative experiment, 0'7 viskar, the birch is not to blame, the experiment continues. drinks
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 9 August 2017 21: 13
        +1
        Everything went to sleep, 2 * 0,5 white horse, the birch is not to blame. Psheki Downs laughing
    12. LeonidL
      LeonidL 10 August 2017 02: 21
      +3
      Exactly the same Buk as the Malaysian Boeing !!!! Who doubts the reliability of experts? ... And then they will find there arrowheads of the times of False Dmitry ... the main thing is to dig, to dig a panove and not to stop !!!
    13. Basil50
      Basil50 10 August 2017 06: 42
      0
      * I will open * the great secret of such a long hysteria of the Poles.
      There are photographs of IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN in which he PERSONALLY plantes a birch near this now famous airfield. And this historical birch, planted PERSONALLY by Joseph VISSARIONOVICH STALIN, protected RUSSIA from the intervention of the Poles.
  2. kolkulon
    kolkulon 9 August 2017 15: 08
    +1
    It was not a bobbin ...
    1. The black
      The black 9 August 2017 15: 14
      +8
      How is it not to blame? And for what then did she get the title of Hero? And the testimony of neighboring birches? wassat..
      1. Kondratko
        Kondratko 9 August 2017 16: 14
        +2
        "And the testimony of neighboring birches?"
        ... and a confession?
      2. Che burashka
        Che burashka 9 August 2017 16: 14
        +3
        Quote: Black
        How is it not to blame? And for what then did she get the title of Hero? And the testimony of neighboring birches? wassat..

        It’s they who haven’t tried our poplars yet .... that’s where the traces of the explosion will be found .... from the Moon it will be possible to consider .... if there is anyone hi
  3. Smog
    Smog 9 August 2017 15: 09
    +11
    Birch is not guilty of the crash of Tu-154

    Confessed the same ......
  4. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 9 August 2017 15: 09
    +3
    rewrote the story - the rest also rewrite
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 9 August 2017 16: 42
      0
      Drink less water.
  5. Alex_59
    Alex_59 9 August 2017 15: 09
    +21
    Insidious Russians lured a Polish plane into fog, pretended to dissuade them from landing, then forced the plane to fall below the glide path, drove it into the cockpit of an extraneous Polish general, having previously swelled it, and just at the estimated time a few seconds before hitting the birch blew up the wing of the plane. Bravo Russian special services! With such opportunities, the Russians should be surprised why all the members of the new Polish commission to review the causes of the disaster have not yet died. Already after such a cunning plan to eliminate the Polish plane, it would be completely nonsense to arrange for all members of the commission an accident, poisoning, etc.
    1. krops777
      krops777 9 August 2017 15: 30
      +5
      ovarian Russians lured the Polish plane into fog, pretended to dissuade it, then forced the plane to fall below the glide path, drove it into the cockpit of an extraneous Polish general, having previously swollen it, and precisely at the estimated time a few seconds before hitting the birch blew up the wing of the plane


      They also managed to grow an insidious Russian birch by the time of arrival, which, like all Russians, drinks vodka, swears and plays the balalaika in an embrace with a bear.
  6. Gray brother
    Gray brother 9 August 2017 15: 10
    +14
    It's time for the Poles to arrange cleaning in their ranks - I personally recommend anti-aircraft gunfire.
    Board number one, in any state (except Germany), is one of the most protected objects, so if they really want to think that the plane is blown up, then they will have to take for granted the fact that they did it themselves.
    Therefore, it is necessary to find these "svoih" and roughly punish)))
  7. Logall
    Logall 9 August 2017 15: 12
    +26
    am
    [/ quote] birch. The destruction of the wing began before the birch. Numerous destruction of the left wing of the Tu-154M bear traces of an explosion [quote]

    The birch simply defended itself! This is ours, Russian birch ...
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2017 15: 15
      +11
      Quote: Logall
      The birch simply defended itself! This is ours, Russian birch ...

      This is not just a birch - in ancient times, Ivan Susanin personally planted this birch.
      1. Logall
        Logall 9 August 2017 16: 12
        +18
        On the bones of a starving Pole ...
  8. Mu Dialer
    Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 15: 12
    +6
    Poles continue to delight wassat
  9. pvv113
    pvv113 9 August 2017 15: 13
    +7
    Destruction of the left wing

    Judging by the wording, the competence of the Polish commission expects much to be desired
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2017 15: 18
      +7
      Quote: pvv113
      the competence of the Polish commission expects much to be desired

      It is fully consistent with the competence of their Minister of Defense, and he does a bit of it: fool
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 9 August 2017 15: 22
        +4
        Yes, his forehead competency is written laughing
      2. little dirty trick
        little dirty trick 9 August 2017 17: 48
        0
        Quote: Gray Brother
        and he is a little of that:

        how soft you are, I would say complete
    2. Alekseits
      Alekseits 9 August 2017 15: 28
      +1
      There is a complete zero, what kind of competency are you talking about.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 9 August 2017 15: 30
        +2
        So about this zero competency and say wink
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 August 2017 16: 16
        +1
        Quote: Alekseits
        There is a complete zero

        He would have been a complete zero in the case of quiet insanity - he would have depicted a plant somewhere in the corner, and here is a vivid case of insane insanity.
        The patient sprinkles with saliva, carries nonsense and throws himself at others.
        And after all, they specially picked this one up.
    3. Alf
      Alf 9 August 2017 16: 41
      +1
      Quote: pvv113
      fishing on the wording, the competence of the Polish commission expects much to be desired

      And then the competence? The Poles were given a clear and clear order- "to find the Russian trace."
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 9 August 2017 16: 46
        +2
        At the expense of the Russian trace, it has long been clear. But for the evidence to be convincing, you need to at least correctly and correctly formulate
        1. Alf
          Alf 9 August 2017 21: 49
          +1
          Quote: pvv113
          But for the evidence to be convincing, you need to at least correctly and correctly formulate

          And who needs them, this evidence? As the song sings, there is an order, the course is laid.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 9 August 2017 22: 51
            +1
            Today, as evidence, it’s enough to shake a test tube with soda or salt, and everyone begins to nod their firm foreheads
      2. CooL_SnipeR
        CooL_SnipeR 9 August 2017 18: 42
        0
        Quote: Alf
        And then the competence? The Poles were given a clear and clear order- "to find the Russian trace"

        They are like a woman yaga ... "I smell, it smells of Russian spirit!"
  10. sabakina
    sabakina 9 August 2017 15: 17
    +6
    Poland: Birch is not guilty of the crash of the Tu-154; there was a blast

    This song is good, start over!
  11. Altona
    Altona 9 August 2017 15: 17
    +2
    Quote: CentDo
    Polish technicians were preparing the plane for departure, let them ask them.

    ------------------------------
    Why the wing break didn’t go along the perforation line, as in the joke: “the engineers came to the aircraft factory and see, after the final assembly, the mechanic Uncle Vasya puts a perforation on the wing with a drill. They ask why? He says:“ So it will be even stronger where you saw the toilet paper torn by perforation? "
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 9 August 2017 15: 18
    +5
    Birch is not to blame! Protein is to blame! This Russian saboteur leaked onto the plane and blew up bottles of 2H5ON in the left wing of THREE (!!!)! laughing
  13. vit
    vit 9 August 2017 15: 19
    +6
    The birch simply defended itself! This is ours, Russian birch ...

    Thank God that there was no oak! otherwise it would go to Poland itself ...
  14. Masya masya
    Masya masya 9 August 2017 15: 24
    +4
    The destruction of the wing began before the birch.

    They didn’t take into account that the birch had telekinesis! wink
  15. 1536
    1536 9 August 2017 15: 24
    +6
    This catastrophe near Smolensk now becomes one line with a plane crash near Gibraltar on 4 on July 1943, in which General V. Sikorski, the head of the Polish government in exile, died. Alas, Poland as it was and remained a bargaining chip in world politics. But the Poles do not know ...
    1. pvv113
      pvv113 9 August 2017 15: 28
      +3
      Poles, unlike Copernicus, think that Poland is flat, stands on three pillars, and the whole world revolves around it lol
    2. Alekseits
      Alekseits 9 August 2017 15: 30
      +3
      She does not become, they put her there forcibly. laughing
    3. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 15: 50
      +1
      Do not lie, there are no Russians and birches in Giblraltar! wassat
      1. little dirty trick
        little dirty trick 9 August 2017 17: 53
        0
        Quote: Mu Diazwon
        Do not lie, there are no Russians and birches in Giblraltar!

        a petrel from the USSR flew there, before that he had a drink with a squirrel in Smolensk discussing the "song about the petrel"
  16. Mu Dialer
    Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 15: 26
    +3
    In this whole story, the most interesting question is: why, in fact, did Russia allegedly destroy these Polish sorrows of bosses? What is the motivation for this supposedly terrorist attack? wassat
  17. Thracian warrior
    Thracian warrior 9 August 2017 15: 28
    0
    Quote: CentDo
    Polish technicians were preparing the plane for departure, let them ask them. Or will they now say that the plane was shot down?


    They want to attach the word MANPADS to the case, that’s the whole task, otherwise there’s no way to set off a “cost-based commission”.
  18. Operator
    Operator 9 August 2017 15: 29
    +6
    "Destruction occurred before the birch," - therefore, it was not necessary to blow up, the birch would still fulfill its role laughing

    "D. Bily", - S. Lavrov (C)
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 9 August 2017 15: 37
      +1
      Yeah...
      Except as morons b .... nothing more to say ...
      Admin, ... mind you, I quoted the head of our Foreign Ministry ...
  19. sabakina
    sabakina 9 August 2017 15: 36
    +4
    A new “investigating” case now announces that it has studied the wreckage of the Tu-154 wing and has revealed the “explosive nature of metal damage.”

    As far as I know, the remains of the plane are still with us, what could they learn? .... or am I mistaken?
    1. little dirty trick
      little dirty trick 9 August 2017 17: 56
      +1
      Quote: sabakina
      As far as I know, the remains of the aircraft are still with us, what could they learn ?.

      he entered the astral
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 August 2017 15: 39
    +1
    In short, or ours shot down from anti-aircraft guns or did the Poles themselves blow up the plane?
  21. K-50
    K-50 9 August 2017 15: 44
    +2
    there was an explosion

    The tale of urine, start from the beginning. negative
    It seems that the panes are completely blown away that after so many examinations they themselves do not believe in themselves.
    D. B. (s) S. Lavrov. good
  22. Altona
    Altona 9 August 2017 15: 47
    +2
    Quote: Vit
    Thank God that there was no oak!

    ---------------------------
    Maybe they were reduced to critical so that they could break the bath brooms?
    1. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 15: 57
      +1
      Maybe they wanted birch sap? wassat
  23. AID.S
    AID.S 9 August 2017 15: 58
    +3
    "You, bastards, answer for the birch!"
  24. mroy
    mroy 9 August 2017 16: 02
    +5
    "We will perish. I understood everything, Jacob. All newcomers to Russia will die near Smolensk."
    (c) film formula of love
  25. vasilev
    vasilev 9 August 2017 16: 19
    +9
    One of them is the same birch.
  26. demo
    demo 9 August 2017 16: 22
    +8
    I read the news. I read the comments.
    I recalled a joke that could tell the Polish authorities how to proceed.
    And what needs to be done so that "progressive" humanity does not have more doubts about the causes of the death of the aircraft with passengers.
    So. Joke.
    10 policemen sailed along the river. The boat turns over.
    Got a question. How many policemen drowned?
    The option that something does not sink is not considered.
    So. Drowned 20 police officers.
    Why 20? If swam 10.
    Ten at once, and ten later, during the investigative experiment.

    There is a suggestion.
    Conduct an investigative experiment.
    Moreover, for complete identity, there is a second twin brother - Kachinsky.
    1. bk316
      bk316 9 August 2017 20: 32
      +2
      Moreover, for complete identity, there is a second twin brother - Kachinsky.

      There is definitely a drunk general and there is another public, but the pilot is afraid I’ll not be led a second time and will not climb into the fog.
  27. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 9 August 2017 16: 37
    +4
    I propose to agree with the version of the Poles and declare a war in Poland with the subsequent occupation and genocide.
    1. chenia
      chenia 9 August 2017 18: 03
      +2
      Quote: Geisenberg
      I propose to accept the version of the Poles and declare war on Poland


      Not so impossible, not interesting. I propose every year to plant a new version of the involvement of Moscow in the Poles.

      With a new investigation and subsequent exhumation of all the victims and an investigative experiment (I think there will be more victims after the third time).

      And so ten years (or think for the Poles is not enough?).
  28. Slon_on
    Slon_on 9 August 2017 16: 42
    +1
    After another seven years, they will “find” fingerprints yourself, you know, whom. American gaskets are not capable of that.
  29. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 9 August 2017 16: 53
    +2
    Fuss in vain, panov! As I understand it, the essence of their claims is that now the birch is not to blame, but the FSB is to blame, and Putin himself, who sent agents who gave the Polish general a drink, for the sake of the moment they will add that they fed the Hawthorn, then they sent the agent who shot down the plane, then broke the birch. Well, well - for the US Senate, this version will work. But panov, vanity is useful only when catching fleas. Eighty years ago, you, too, fussed before Hitler, offered to take Moscow together. So what, where did Poland end up. .
  30. mahoney
    mahoney 9 August 2017 16: 57
    0
    Again conspiracy theories .....
  31. anjey
    anjey 9 August 2017 17: 04
    0
    Pshekas are real ideologists, to turn a real tragedy into a political detective tragicomedy for the sake of American and schizophrenic Russophobia, you really need to be sick people, do not want to project on the whole Polish people, but too many USA minions and sixes bark at Russia, apparently work out financially with zeal and political loans and in vain dream that Russia is weak and will bend under the donkey pressure of the West, Shish to you! .Nate ka yes bite ka !!!
  32. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 9 August 2017 17: 06
    +8
    Birch is not guilty of the crash of Tu-154

    Correctly! Not guilty! She doesn’t know how to fly! laughing
  33. Nimitz
    Nimitz 9 August 2017 17: 12
    +2
    As far as I can judge as a simple layman, a wing is not an easily accessible cavity, so that at least something needs to be put in there, some kind of construction for working at the height of the wing, some sort of technological hatches subassembly. And the tab should be such that it would not interfere with the work of wing mechanization and withstand the flight deformations of the wing. Again, if there is an explosion, why the hell is asked to arrange it at a low altitude. Indeed, tearing at high altitude is a guaranteed destruction of both targets and evidence (remember the plane over Sinai). If this is the work of anti-aircraft weapons - what kind of an outlandish rocket that falls into the wing and not into the engine does not leave fragments, in addition it works at such a low altitude in the conditions of complete absence of visibility behind tree branches and trunks. Or an anti-aircraft gunner (obviously an outstanding personality) - a hybrid of Vanga and Dragan Matich who shot down an airplane by throwing a grenade into the wing. wassat
    Discrepancies alone and only.
    1. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 17: 45
      0
      Too complicated I don't get it drinks
    2. little dirty trick
      little dirty trick 9 August 2017 17: 58
      0
      Quote: Nimitz
      some design for work at wing height, some sort of technological hatches subassembly

      and you do not take it into account?
  34. unignm
    unignm 9 August 2017 17: 13
    +3
    pshek zadolbali trust corpse Kaczynski
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  35. 1536
    1536 9 August 2017 17: 13
    0
    Quote: Mu Dialer
    Do not lie, there are no Russians and birches in Giblraltar! wassat

    Probably not, you're right here. But I’m not lying, because the old components remained: the world hegemon (the “exclusive nation” is now because of the Ocean), the British remained, there are Russians (this is bad luck), who are still fighting off the enemies with their last forces with their entire country, there is captured by the hegemonic Poland, and many, many more factors that make the events of 2010 go in tune with the events of 1943 go. Even Ukraine is still in occupation. You may not agree, of course.
    1. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 9 August 2017 17: 48
      0
      Sikorsky (or whatever), also drank on the plane? drinks
      I drink at home wink
  36. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 9 August 2017 17: 31
    0
    everyone has long known - there was an explosion of Svidomo farts
  37. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 9 August 2017 17: 32
    0
    everyone has long known - there was an explosion of Svidomo farts
  38. APASUS
    APASUS 9 August 2017 17: 50
    +1
    A new “investigating” case now announces that it has studied the wreckage of the Tu-154 wing and has revealed the “explosive nature of metal damage.”

    A set of conflicting facts.
    At the same time, the Polish side says that the fact of the possibility of interaction with the Russian side should be ignored.

    There has already been an intergovernmental scandal so that the Russian side does not transfer TU -154 M fragments to Poland. In this regard, I would like to understand what kind of fragments the Polish side is exploring, without interacting with the Russian side.
    And the status of this group of experts is also very interesting.
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  40. Observer2014
    Observer2014 9 August 2017 18: 37
    +1
    I propose to the Poles to conduct an investigative experiment! Load the beau monde into the plane in the rubbish. Tie Matserevich to the front row. And let them sit on the birches again wassat laughing
  41. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 9 August 2017 18: 56
    0
    Quote: Polite Moose
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Poland wants to do the impossible

    Interestingly, will Kachinsky be dug up again?

    And when they dig it up, then a hole in the skull from the TT will suddenly appear ... Then the howl will rise!
  42. Nimitz
    Nimitz 9 August 2017 19: 19
    0
    Quote: little dirty trick
    Quote: Nimitz
    some design for work at wing height, some sort of technological hatches subassembly

    and you do not take it into account?

    Really Himself. I certainly didn’t think so. Poles will probably be happy with this option. laughing
    1. SergF123
      SergF123 11 August 2017 18: 11
      +1
      Well - damn it all declassified, now the Air Force and NYT will write that they have evidence ...... Mlyn well, do not disclose all the secrets then ....))) laughing
  43. Music
    Music 9 August 2017 19: 40
    0
    When necessary, they will find pieces of the rocket. In the wing. One question: did we need it?
  44. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 9 August 2017 20: 55
    0
    palyatsky iksperdy found traces of kerosene in the photographs of an airplane
  45. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 9 August 2017 21: 25
    +2
    As they already lifted up. Himself from Smolensk. He himself traveled to Poland to his comrades. He himself showed them the unfortunate birch. He himself told and showed the negotiations of the "dispatcher" (at that time it was the military in execution). In general, they were shown even more than they could read once. All this is now in the public domain, in the internet. Drunk their Air Force commander made a certain contribution to this misfortune.
  46. Realtor
    Realtor 9 August 2017 22: 02
    +1
    need to dance from the stove.
    The USSR is not involved in the activation of the Pshek warriors. Therefore, to us, the Russian Federation, the legal successor, also to all their penal groans and linguistic about Katyn.
    They wanted to beat the beggar beetles on the BBQ near Smolensk - know the problems.
    Przha, Just do not drink a lot))
    And, the Spirit of Ivan Susanin, they themselves called their "bison" wink
  47. iouris
    iouris 9 August 2017 22: 02
    +2
    The question has long been closed. If there had been an explosion, the explosive device could have been planted only during the preflight preparation of the aircraft in Warsaw.
  48. AID.S
    AID.S 9 August 2017 22: 12
    +2
    I think that it’s simply impossible to transfer these fragments of the aircraft to the Poles. So the reason is the anti-Russian policy. To issue by law. We will return after we are convinced that Poland has fulfilled our conditions. And that’s all.
  49. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 9 August 2017 22: 16
    0
    Good morning Poland. Woke up pancake. SOON FIND FOLLOWING TRACKS ,, BEECH M ,,
  50. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 9 August 2017 22: 57
    +1
    And they (Russian) fuel leaked from the plane, possibly in flight!