"Contractor" Ageev. From the "GRU intelligence officers" to the "servicemen" of the VKS communications regiment

A few days after the Ukrainian sabotage group captured four soldiers of the People’s Militia of the Republic on the territory of the LPR, and after several publications of the pages of the passport and military ID of the citizen of the Russian Federation Viktor Ageyev, the Ukrainian side gives out another attempt to present Ageyev as a soldier-contract soldier of the RF Armed Forces. Earlier, saying that Ageev lived in the Russian Federation in a certain city Kosmitau (confused with his place of birth - the Kazakh city of Kokshetau), the Ukrainian media clearly, on the instructions of Ukrainian special services, try to “prove” Ageyev as a member of the Russian army personnel. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation stated that Ageev of the Russian Federation is not a personnel soldier of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Recall that earlier Ageev was presented as a “GRU intelligence officer”, now the confusion in the presentation of information in UkroSMI is becoming more and more frank. The words of Ageev himself, who, being a captive, have no choice but to “confirm” the Ukrainian fable about the contract service, were broadcast.

Ageev (quote TSN):

I am a soldier. Part of 65246 (Novocherkassk, regiment of communication and training center of the RF AUF). I signed the contract in March 2017 of the year, came to the unit and literally through 4 of the day I was sent to the Donbass.

When asked how many people were “sent” with him, Ageev said that he was driving “he and Alex (Alexander Scherba - the dead commander of his group)”.

As can be seen, the “GRU reconnaissance” from Kosmitau now is becoming the representative of the communications regiment of the Russian Aerospace Forces, whom the Ukrainian media have “identified” as a contract soldier of the Russian Federation and a member of the DRG. At the same time, the "contract soldier" was given, apparently, all the documents, so that he would go with him to the front line, having carried out a "transfer" across the border to as many as two people, including Ageev himself.

It is hardly possible to guess what other scenarios over time will be offered in Kiev regarding the personality of Ageev.

Comments

[Venceremos]

I am afraid to blurt out something SUCH that cannot be, and therefore I will not comment on the presence / absence of a certain contingent with us, in order to avoid ...

[The black]

Military Space Forces in the steppes of Ukraine ..... something tells me that if he comes to the military registration and enlistment office and declares that I want to serve under a contract in the Donbass, then I can go directly to the preventive conversation with the FSB

[Venceremos]

Quote: Black

something tells me that if he comes to the military registration and enlistment office and declares that I want to serve under a contract in the Donbass, then I can go directly to the FSB for a preventive conversation

More likely to see a specialist doctor.
And in general, the procedure does not look like that, not that

[Lexa-149]

Everything will be much more prosaic - they will be sent on an erotic tour.

[siberalt]

I wonder what they will do with him? Maybe to carry around the world with public speaking about sincere recognition?

[Baloo]

Beard leads to certain thoughts.

[rotmistr60]

Honestly, the situation when the APU attacks with impunity, captures and uses for propaganda purposes the c / d DLNR is already starting to annoy. Where is the response? Where at least one mercenary who testifies under the camera. It seems that the Ukrainian DRGs feel at home in these territories. Either the bombing of the OSCE machine, the explosions in Donetsk and Lugansk, or the captivity. Is there any opposition (except the front edge)?

[Venceremos]

Quote: rotmistr60

It seems that the Ukrainian DRGs feel at home in these territories. Either the bombing of the OSCE machine, the explosions in Donetsk and Lugansk, or the captivity. Is there any opposition (except the front edge)?

You see ... We, the republics are young, like small children. Sometimes not obedient and capricious, but still obey the elders.

А the elders, because there are different -You, and just alcoholics. They were sent to teach the children, but to watch so that they would not be spoiled, but they ...

In general, we are not Syria, where the educators the best of the best.

As in the saying: "The smart were sent to the smart, and me to you ..."

[rotmistr60]

As I understand you about this (DRG counteraction) should Russia have a headache? And they should send no one to anyone, and train as expected, but it is better to fight.

[Venceremos]

Quote: rotmistr60

As I understand you about this (DRG counteraction) should Russia have a headache? And they should send no one to anyone, and train as expected, but it is better to fight.

Absolutely misunderstood.
So what do you think, FOR WHAT in the team positions of a certain level we have "pair skating"? And who is the leading dancer in this duet?
And if the glavnyuk wrong ? Then then what are we

As we are taught, we dance (Just don’t write about “a bad dancer who is disturbed by something”)
In this case, the students are both diligent and capable. Teachers (with rare exceptions) cheated.
We do not ask you to do OUR work for us. Just help to create really effective law enforcement agencies, since the militia has been destroyed by the directive from the top.

[g1v2]

Justification, like a hole in z-tse - is for everyone. And nod to the curator - to admit his non-professionalism. There is the MGB, there are internal troops, there are commanders, there are police. In such a small territory, it’s quite possible to establish a regime in which locals will report everything suspicious to the commandant’s office or police department. THE PEOPLE'S POLICE ALSO IN HIS OWN PROBLEM. It’s not so difficult to equip a system of patrols, mobile groups, control and tracking bands reinforced with video surveillance cameras and drones in dangerous areas in the frontline zone. Given that most of the front line is a river. Any drg there can be safely detected at the crossing by cameras, drones and patrols. In the area of ​​Bakhmutka - constant fire contact. There, the line of posts and secrets should be constantly on the alert. IF DRG PASSES THERE, THIS MEANS THAT THE PUNCH BEATS A BULLETT AND DESERVES THAT SUCH DRG ZEROES IT. For gouging, you have to pay. FROM PERVOMAYSK TO SANZHANOVKA ALSO NOT SUCH A LARGE DISTANCE. And in my opinion the terrain is quite suitable for defense and control. Hill posts can view steppe for kilometers. There are also not so many drones. In general, there is nothing very complicated in the organization of normal control of the frontline territory.
And the curators are not to wipe the noses and priests of the locals, but to direct the educational and organizational processes in the right direction and plant the army discipline. which distinguishes the army from the militia. Pointing at the military specialist is a stupid occupation. You have your own head on your shoulders and responsibility for the personnel entrusted to you. If you did not save him and did not organize a service on your site, then it is not only and not so much the curator’s fault as yours. THERE ARE NOT THE DISTANCES AND NOT THE LOCALITY THAT THEY CANNOT BE TAKEN UNDER CONTROL OF CASH FORCES. The thing to do, not chew snot. Uncle will not come from the side and will not do everything for you. And here it is - "" and what are we? "- this is generally a shame.

[Abel]

Create the MGB or NM, so they also need to be taught, however. From miners to investigative investigators?

[Venceremos]

Quote: rotmistr60

As I understand you about this (DRG counteraction) should Russia have a headache? And they should send no one to anyone, and train as expected, but it is better to fight.

Absolutely misunderstood.
So what do you think, FOR WHAT in the team positions of a certain level we have "pair skating"? And who is the leading dancer in this duet?
And if the glavnyuk wrong ? Then then what are we

As we are taught, we dance (Just don’t write about “a bad dancer who is disturbed by something”)
In this case, the students are both diligent and capable. Teachers (with rare exceptions) cheated.
We do not ask you to do OUR work for us. Just help to create really effective law enforcement agencies, since the militia has been destroyed by the directive from the top.

[rotmistr60]

They completely misunderstood.

Well then, not everything is so bad. I wrote not with the aim of offending, but with the goal of sorting out things like simple things - who is responsible for what and why is not acting effectively.

[Venceremos]

Quote: rotmistr60

As I understand you about this (DRG counteraction) should Russia have a headache? And they should send no one to anyone, and train as expected, but it is better to fight.

Absolutely misunderstood.
So what do you think, FOR WHAT in the team positions of a certain level we have "pair skating"? And who is the leading dancer in this duet?
And if the glavnyuk wrong ? Then then what are we

As we are taught, we dance (Just don’t write about “a bad dancer who is disturbed by something”)
In this case, the students are both diligent and capable. Teachers (with rare exceptions) cheated.
We do not ask you to do OUR work for us. Just help to create really effective law enforcement agencies, since the militia has been destroyed by the directive from the top.

[Observer2014]

Venceremos I read your comments.Good luck to you in the explanation of the non-guessing, clear as God's day problems of the republics. You liked it

In general, we are not Syria, where the educators are the best of the best.

[Baloo]

As I understand you about this (DRG counteraction) should Russia have a headache?

This work is not simple, counterintelligence and counter-terrorism measures. You need to learn this. Militias have to learn in the course of hostilities. Of course, we should use the experience of the Second World War, I have courses for commanders. Already, Russia could help.

[Okolotochny]

This work is not simple, counterintelligence and counter-terrorism measures.

Balu, this activity involves the conduct, including, or mainly even operational-search measures. Work with the public, obtaining meaningful information. These "things" SHOULD be known for the composition of the same Ministry of Internal Affairs, if normal opera. It is not necessary to wait until Captain Alyokhin is sent with Senior Lieutenant Tamantsev “north wind”. It is necessary to plow, to work with people. A thousand times you can get small, worthless, but for the first thousand luck will definitely smile. As you read, there are a dime a dozen offices there - the MGB, intelligence, and police. There is a question for them - What are you guys doing?

[Baloo]

There is a question for them - What are you guys doing?

Actually, I'm a layman in these matters. I know from my work that a lot depends on who taught you how and how you acquired this knowledge yourself. It’s not enough to read smart books alone, I know that for sure.

[Alexander 3]

Ageev was going to meet with Pastor Schlag to discuss the capture of Poroshenko, but after capturing he took the poison into him. The poison turned out to be of poor quality and the effect of it was unexpected.

[Baloo]

Ageev was heading for a meeting with Pastor Schlag
The pastor forgot about the pot, no, his skis broke and he didn’t come to the point.
Ageev waited, waited, waited, waited ... The beard has already grown ... The pastor did not reach. I do not like his beard ...

[kush62]

Alexander 3 Yesterday, 06:52
Ageev was going to meet with Pastor Schlag to discuss the capture of Poroshenko, but after capturing he took the poison into him. The poison turned out to be of poor quality and the effect of it was unexpected.

You did not indicate the reason for the poor-quality poison. The poison was purchased at a pharmacy. And in our pharmacies. as in the lotteries, you can not guess.

[Retvizan 8]

In fact, the guy defended our Russian world, how he got there and who was no longer important, now it is important to make every effort to free yourself! I feel sorry for his mother, now she is going through a lot.

[writer]

There was information in the Ukrainian media that the target of the DRG was A. Shcherba, an associate of Girkin, who knew a lot about the outbreak of war in the Donbas. But he shot back to the last and was killed.

[Venceremos]

Quote: writer

There was information in the Ukrainian media that the target of the DRG was A. Shcherba, an associate of Girkin, who knew a lot about the outbreak of war in the Donbas. But he shot back to the last and was killed.

Well, your ukrosMI still that diarrhea. Goebbels manuals are not forgotten.

[cormorant]

He arrived at the unit and after 4 days was sent to Donbas ... What a fierce delirium! I was completely disappointed in the APU. A guy or them in an open trolite or they are all clinical on the outskirts (medical term) ...

[Venceremos]

Quote: cormorant

I was completely disappointed in the APU.

APU then? Not VSUshniki at the moment they are "processing" the guy.
And the flow of information does not come from them ...

[gla172]

..... just trouble .......

[Stirbjorn]

The article would then indicate its version of this story - the fact that the guy is from Russia, and trying to shove some wrong statements into Ukrainian statements here is ugly! Volunteers do not go there anymore, they will not go to the LPR army for 15 thousand either, it’s better in their own for a lot of money, why then are all these nit-picking to be touched ?! All right, they said above, all the best specialists in "fraternal" Syria, Donbass gets the residual principle, that's why such incidents come out

[Unbearable]

"better in her for a lot of money" - how much? In some military units in Russia, the net monetary allowance for a "new" soldier of a military service, depending on rank, position and length of service, is from 17800 rubles. It is inexpedient to send to a military man who has just signed a contract; some will immediately begin to find grounds for terminating the contract.

[Stirbjorn]

it’s better to sit in a safe place for a minimum of 17800 than to sit in combat for 15, with an absolutely unclear status - this is obvious in my opinion, but if you want to have adrenaline, you can go to Syria
PS I remember perfectly a whole bunch of articles, including those in the VO, about the "fake special forces" Erofeev and Alexandrov, etc.

[north]

They said above, as many as three times, one and the same thing. It's not a matter of specialists. In general, it is some kind of a dark matter. And in local experts, local specialists always work better.

[Lyaga]

This is a continuation of the "kin" about the Russian "paratroopers", the Russian "GRU officers," etc. Here is another VERY interesting info: http://www.anews.com/p/72272225/!

[Lyaga]

I wonder if in Russia, except for the airborne forces, the marines and tankers from Buryatia, there are no longer any military formations capable of fighting the invincible army of Ukaine?

[KUOLEMA]

Nope))) all on the sofas we’ve got enough money and they’re fighting the collective farmers who don’t have a lot of pennies)))

[Jubilee]

pan-and-panheads work according to Goebbels: the more incredible a lie ...

[Catherine II]

for some, the task is to show a trump card in an information war; for the second, to bring this trump card to an absurdity in the same information war.
The fate of the guy both to the wall. Well, okay, he’s their enemy. And the second one too ... quit and that's it.
Alexandrov / Erofeev version of 2.0. We bring their very existence to an absurdity. Then we quietly change and forget. I hope that the guys will be at least quietly exchanged ...

[north]

Yes, here is the question (IMHO) as they say, but was there a baby?

[d.gksueyjd]

In the age of electricity, admission of any guilt, including the arson of Pompeii, is a matter of time. Now the question is not where he served or was assigned, but that the AFG DRG, in violation of the Minsk agreements, conducts military operations in the territory of Donbass. That is, in the translation into the legal language, the actions of "operatives", "investigators", prosecutors are not legal, and any of their "evidence" and "recognition" of the detainee are not evidence for the court, including according to the laws of Ukraine!
Goebels worked less brazenly and more accurately!

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Are there any Russian personnel in Ukraine? Of course have. It would be very strange if suddenly there was no one ... I am sure that there are, and are on opposite sides of the front. But why are some stupid residents of Ukraine stubbornly pushing the idea that these thoroughly secret military men are going on combat missions armed with all the documents plus a passport (which the soldier generally doesn’t rely on), probably for persuasiveness Hey, the security service, then provide in the kit all the other documents that Russian scouts usually (usually) take with them when they go on the battlefield: a military registration and enlistment office (for privates and sergeants), a diploma of graduation from a higher military educational institution (for officers), state awards and documents to them, a tax certificate on the payment of all due taxes, fees and penalties, a certificate from the Criminal Code on the absence of debt for housing and communal services, etc.
PS And after all, millions of people actually believe all this nonsense!

[KUOLEMA]

I am convinced that in intelligence you need to take with you only a certificate of release)))

[Dmitry Aleksandrovich]

“Victor came to fight with us from Russia. He came to make money on the killing of our guys in the East. For this, a machine gun was assigned to Victor. Victor didn’t know how to shoot him. And when he had to, he was taken aback.” This is a quote from Yulia Kiriyenko on June 26 at 7:53 · On the same day he was declared a GRU special forces officer (even though he can’t shoot from a machine gun, where did the machine gun come from?) Now they’ve again lowered.

[Nikolay Shadrin]

I have only one question. They were taken prisoner, as far as I know, with military weapons and a set of documents. Why didn’t they give a fight? They are not taught how to behave in such situations. When shouting "Rus hello!" immediately raise your hands up ?! I’m asking not because I'm so brave, but because they go to serve there, I want to hope that people who are psychologically and militarily trained.

[LeonidL]

Right! But they say that this is the rear. True in armor plates and with a machine gun ... but seen in the rear of the neighbor relaxed and were ambushed. Two were killed before their eyes, tortured ... the rest were broken. Well-known practice. Afghanistan, Vietnam ...

[wvg]

my condolences to Ageev and the guys who were with him.

[LeonidL]

Well, insanity, insanity, what if they didn’t get out of the wretched?

[Vladimir Mamkin]

As a result, he will be the armored cavalry marshal of the Martian troops

[Captain nem]

And there are no serious military operations, artduels and drgs, but they are captured like the last suckers. That erofeev with Alexander, that this Ageev. And how were they taken from the rear to dill? On shoulders? Sent in a parcel? Is there a front line or a sieve?

[Sonet]

It doesn’t matter who our guy is represented there, even though a Jedi, but it’s important that he needs to be rescued. But how? Russia no longer has the means to adequately influence Ukraine. From the word in general.

[Des10]

Caught - caught. Admitted - confessed. Documents e --- Yes.
What else is needed.
And do not get caught.