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About Hungarians, who were not taken prisoner near Voronezh

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The message on “VO” that the Minister of Defense of Hungary visited Voronezh aroused interest. Some of the readers expressed surprise at this fact and the fact that there are burial places of Hungarian soldiers in the region.

We will tell about one of these graves.

Actually, the story about him was already three years ago, but everything changes, people come, it is not always possible to catch everything. So again.

First a little stories.

Already 27 June 1941, the Hungarian planes bombed the Soviet frontier posts and the city of Stanislav. 1 July 1941 The border of the Soviet Union was crossed by parts of the Carpathian group with a total of more than 40 000 people. The most combat-ready unit of the group was the Mobile Corps under the command of Major General Bela Danlock-Miklos.

The corps consisted of two motorized and one cavalry brigades, support units (engineering, transport, communications, etc.). Armored units were armed with Italian tankettes "Fiat-Ansaldo" CV 33/35, light Tanks "Toldi" and armored vehicles "Csaba" Hungarian production. The total strength of the Mobile Corps was about 25 soldiers and officers.

About Hungarians, who were not taken prisoner near Voronezh





By July 9 1941, the Hungarians, having overcome the resistance of the Soviet Army 12, advanced deep into enemy territory by 60-70 km. On the same day, the Carpathian group was disbanded. The mountain and frontier brigades that did not keep up with the motorized units were supposed to perform guard functions in the occupied territories, and the Mobile Corps came under the command of Field Marshal Carl von Rundstedt, commander of the German Army Group South.

On July 23, the Hungarian motorized units launched an offensive in the Bershad-Gayvoron area in cooperation with the German 17. In August, a large group of Soviet troops was surrounded by Uman. The encircled units were not about to give up and made desperate attempts to break through the encirclement ring. The Hungarians played an almost decisive role in the defeat of this group.



The Hungarian Mobile Corps continued the offensive along with the troops of the 11 of the German army, participating in heavy fighting near Pervomaisk and Nikolayev. September 2 German-Hungarian troops captured after a fierce street fighting Dnepropetrovsk. Hot battles broke out in the south of Ukraine in Zaporozhye. Soviet troops repeatedly launched counterattacks. So in the course of a bloody battle on the island of Khortytsa, the whole Hungarian infantry regiment was completely destroyed.

In connection with the growth of losses, the warlike ardor of the Hungarian command decreased. 5 September 1941, General Henrik Werth was removed from his post as Chief of General Staff. His place was taken by the infantry general Ferenc Szombathely, who believed that it was time to curtail the active hostilities of the Hungarian troops and withdraw them to protect the borders. But they managed to achieve this from Hitler only by promising to isolate the Hungarian units for the protection of supply lines and administrative centers in the rear of the German army.

Meanwhile, the Mobile Corps continued to fight at the front, and only 24 in November 1941 went to Hungary for the last parts. Corps losses on the Eastern Front made 2700 people killed (including 200 officers), 7500 wounded and 1500 missing. In addition, all tank shoes were lost, 80% light tanks, 90% armored vehicles, more 100 vehicles, some 30 guns and 30 aircraft.

At the end of November, "light" Hungarian divisions began to arrive in Ukraine to carry out police functions in the occupied territories. The headquarters of the Hungarian "Occupation Group" was located in Kiev. Already in December, the Hungarians began to be actively involved in anti-partisan operations. Sometimes such operations turned into very serious fighting clashes. An example of one of such actions is the defeat of December 21 by the partisan detachment of General Orlenko. Hungarians managed to surround and completely destroy the enemy base. According to Hungarian data, about 1941 partisans were killed.

In early January, 1942 of Hitler demanded that Horthy increase the number of Hungarian units on the Eastern Front. It was originally planned to send at least two-thirds of the entire Hungarian army to the front, but after negotiations the Germans reduced their demands.

An 2 Hungarian army with a total strength of about 250 was formed to send to Russia. 000 people under the command of Lieutenant General Gustav Jan. It consisted of 3, 4 and 7 army corps (in each there were three light infantry divisions, similar to 8 conventional divisions), 1 tank division (in fact, the brigade) and 1 air regiment (in fact ). 11 April 1942. The first units of the 2 Army set off on the Eastern Front.

28 June 1942 The German 4-I tank and 2-I field armies launched an offensive. Their main goal was the city of Voronezh. The offensive was attended by the troops of the 2 of the Hungarian army - the 7 of the army corps.

9 July the Germans managed to break into Voronezh. The next day, south of the city, the Hungarians came out and entrenched to the Don. During the battles, only one 9 light division lost 50% of its personnel. The German command set the task before the 2 of the Hungarian army to eliminate three bridgeheads that remained in the hands of the Soviet troops. The most serious threat was the Uryvsk bridgehead. On July 28, the Hungarians made the first attempt to throw his defenders into the river, but all attacks were repulsed. Fierce and bloody battles flared up. 9 August Soviet units launched a counter-strike, pushing forward Hungarian units and expanding the bridgehead at Uryvom. 3 September 1942 of the Hungarian-German troops managed to push the enemy beyond the Don near the village of Korotoyak, but in the area of ​​Uriv the Soviet defense held out. After the main forces of the Wehrmacht were redeployed to Stalingrad, the front stabilized here and the battles assumed a positional character.

13 January 1943 on the positions of the 2 of the Hungarian army and the Alpine Italian Corps was attacked by the troops of the Voronezh Front with the support of the 13 of the Bryansk Front and the 6 of the South-Western Front.

The very next day, the defense of the Hungarians was broken through, some parts were in panic. Soviet tanks entered the operational field and smashed headquarters, communications centers, ammunition depots and equipment. Entering the 1 of the Hungarian Tank Division and units of the 24 of the German Tank Corps did not change the situation, although their actions slowed down the pace of the Soviet offensive. During the battles in January-February 1943, the 2-I Hungarian army suffered catastrophic losses.

All tanks and armored vehicles were lost, virtually all artillery, the level of personnel losses reached 80%. If this is not a rout, then it’s difficult to call it something else.

Inherited the Hungarians great. To say that they were hated more than the Germans is not to say anything. The tale that General Vatutin (bow to him and eternal memory) gave the order “do not take Hungarians in captivity” is absolutely not a fairy tale, but a historical fact.

Nikolai Fedorovich could not remain indifferent to the stories of the delegation of residents of the Ostrogozhsky district about the atrocities of the Hungarians, and, perhaps, in the hearts, threw this phrase.

However, the phrase spread in parts lightning. Evidence of this is the stories of my grandfather, a fighter 41 cn 10 division of the NKVD, and after injury - 81 cn 25 guards. page divisions. The fighters, being aware of what the Hungarians were doing, took it as an indulgence. And acted with the Hungarians, respectively. That is, they did not take prisoner.

Well, if, according to my grandfather, they were “especially smart”, then the conversation with them was also short. In the near ravine or forest. "We pinned them ... When trying to escape."

As a result of the battles on Voronezh land, the 2-I Hungarian army lost about 150 thousands of people, virtually all the equipment. What was left was already unrolled on the land of Donbass.

Today in the Voronezh region there are two mass graves of Hungarian soldiers and officers.

This village Boldyrevka Ostrogozhsky district and the village of Rudkino Khokholsky.



In Boldyrevka, more than 8 of thousands of Honved soldiers are buried. We have not been there, but we will definitely visit the 75 anniversary of the Ostrogozhsk-Rossosh operation. As well as the town of Korotoyak, whose name in Hungary is known to virtually every family. As a symbol of grief.

But in Rudkino drove.



The memorial is always closed, it is opened only when delegations from Hungary arrive. But for the aircraft there are no obstacles, and we used a drone.



How many Hungarians lie here is hard to say. On each plate - 40-45 surnames. How many plates can be counted, but difficult.



I tried. It turned out that here approximately from 50 to 55 thousands are laid to rest. And plus 8,5 thousand in Boldyrevka.





Where are the others? And all the same, on the banks of the Don-priests.





The moral here is simple: whoever comes to us with a sword, will be bent anyway.







Some people find it unpleasant that cemeteries of Hungarians, Germans and Italians exist like this. Well maintained such.

But: we, Russians, do not fight with the dead. The Hungarian government contains (albeit with our hands) the cemeteries of its soldiers. And there is nothing wrong with that. All within the framework of a bilateral intergovernmental agreement on the maintenance and care of war graves.

So let the Hungarian warriors lie under marble slabs, in a rather beautiful corner of the Don's bend.

As an edification to those who suddenly come up with utter nonsense.

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  1. Mystery12345
    Mystery12345 10 July 2017 06: 24
    +47
    How many Hungarians are here is hard to say. On each plate - 40-45 surnames. How many plates can be counted, but difficult. I tried. It turned out that here from about 50 to 55 thousand are laid to rest. And plus 8,5 thousand in Boldyrevka.
    - nobody called them here .. so to paraphrase "Titarenko", I can say: the number of buried people is satisfied.
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 10 July 2017 08: 13
      +20
      Well, yes, something like that ...
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 10 July 2017 13: 30
        +37
        The Hungarians, as it were, were not taken prisoner, but nevertheless they scored more than half a million with only 300 thousand dead Hungarians. In this case, nobody needs humanity. The point is not that there were legends that “Stalin said that the Magyars should not be taken prisoner”, “Vatutin said”, the fact is that the Hungarians themselves did not take Russian prisoners, nobody, including the wounded.
        The Magyars turned their security functions in the rear of the Wehrmacht into punitive. Even according to the claims of the Hungarian historian Christian Ungvari, the Magyars destroyed all (or almost all — they used to run away, hide) the population of any “suspicious” village, recording the burnt, executed old men, women and children alive as partisans or accomplices of partisans.
        By the way, a separate example, the 105th Hungarian light infantry division 30% consisted of Romanians and 30% of the ruthenes (they are also Galician).
        Each Magyar division was supposed to have 50-60 curators from GFP (Geheimen Feldpolizei, field "Gestapo").
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 11 July 2017 16: 00
          +8
          Ruthenians are Rusyns, Carpatorossians, and not "Galitsai."
        2. arsen69
          arsen69 11 July 2017 20: 47
          +15
          I will not look for a source now, but at one time when I was interested in the topic of the losses of the parties in the Second World War, I remembered another figure - that on the eastern front, Hungary suffered the greatest irretrievable military losses after Germany, almost 900 thousand people. Given the number of Hungarians who fought in the Wehrmacht and the crushing losses that their units suffered in battles with the Red Army, this figure seems quite reliable.
        3. Bourbon
          Bourbon 14 July 2017 08: 16
          +12
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          The Hungarians, as it were, were not taken prisoner, but nevertheless they scored more than half a million with only 300 thousand dead Hungarians

          YOU play slightly with marked cards ... where were you captured? In what year, etc. I know that my grandfathers had a fierce hatred of the Magyars ... they did not inherit in my ancestral village - they simply let the red rivers and the rooster! I still do not digest Hungarians ..... the memory of them all over the right bank of the Don, if there were Magyars involved there too - I will not spare (if God gives strength)
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 15 July 2017 08: 49
            +5
            I had a prisoner of war camp in my father’s native village. In the meantime, I saw documents about this camp. Hungarians were present there in decent size, however, like the Dutch, the French and all the main European rabble. Even the Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, etc.
            1. Bourbon
              Bourbon 16 July 2017 17: 34
              +5
              Quote: AwaZ
              Hungarians were present there in a decent size,

              in the prisoner of war camp near Borisoglebsk there were more than 20 captured Jews who served in the Wehrmacht .....
              1. Charik
                Charik 7 December 2018 09: 12
                0
                not a mistake - the Jews in the Wehrmacht - I hear for the first time
          2. zenion
            zenion 13 September 2017 16: 29
            +5
            Hungarians were also near Leningrad. And wherever the Germans poked them in the form of barriers and punitive operations against partisans and villages and villages close to forests. They killed everyone. A familiar tanker who fought against the Hungarians said their snipers shot Hungarian soldiers in the lower abdomen. This happened when approaching the Hungarian town. There, from the roofs and attics, from the windows they shot in such a manner against the soldiers of the Red Army. Tankers knew the places from where they fired and fired from tanks at these houses. But the shells were weak, and the walls of the houses were strong. Then came self-propelled guns with huge guns. They killed about 50 houses in a few minutes and everyone began to give up. So there were enough Hungarians in civilian clothes. If you remember how sapper Vodichka Schweik said, these are such bastards, you know very few Magyars. From the rear they shot at soldiers of Czech regiments.
        4. Scoun
          Scoun 15 September 2017 18: 21
          +6
          My Granny (young partisan), said that the Magyars / Hungarians (whom Russia had saved from extermination) were the most atrocious, the Romanians and so on ... the Italians were in last place.
          So we will remember how a united Europe, for the second time, tried to destroy Russia.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 10 July 2017 18: 51
        0
        "white angel in the field"
    2. intuzazist
      intuzazist 10 July 2017 15: 15
      +15
      It will not be enough .............................
    3. 3 Gradient
      3 Gradient 10 July 2017 22: 33
      +1
      Strongly ... But, right!
    4. zenion
      zenion 16 July 2017 15: 46
      +7
      "It’s not without reason that sapper Vodichka spoke to Schweik - you brother do not know the Hungarians - this is such a bastard ..."
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 10 July 2017 06: 41
    +61
    Everything repeated: just as the same Hungarians with the Avsriyans and Germans went to the WWII to Russia behind the ground, so they came to the Second World War.
    They did not finish them then, unfortunately.

    Honved Ferenc Boldizhar (company 46 / 1.2., Field mail 115 / 20) in his diary described just one of such “heroism”, which he was also proud of: “When we entered the village, I set fire to the first three houses myself. We killed the men, women, children, burned the village. They went on ... Our magnificent hussars set fire to the village, the third company set fire to rockets. From there, we went on reconnaissance. During the time we spent in reconnaissance, the hussars burned six villages ... ”

    What memorials to these beasts ?!
    1. Mystery12345
      Mystery12345 10 July 2017 07: 22
      +15
      Quote: Olgovich
      What memorials to these beasts ?!

      in our forest near the city, the cemetery of these ghouls, Romanians, Hungarians, Germans (in captivity cooled down) without memorials ... stones and crosses.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 10 July 2017 18: 53
        +3
        and at home with relatives - October Oktyabrsky Yves oblast, also a stone stands
      2. your1970
        your1970 12 July 2017 17: 18
        +11
        and I would make a documentary film - only here are memorials, monuments and crosses to the Germans, French, Austrians, Spaniards and everyone else. Without the plot, just moving the camera along the nameplates and a general view from above over the burial area and so the whole movie. Just plates, a lot of plates ..

        At the end of the inscription- "They had families and a happy life ahead. They came to Russia and stayed here forever ...."
      3. ty60
        ty60 22 September 2017 22: 17
        +1
        In Saratov, a German cemetery is not far from me. I don’t know how many lie there. Somewhere along the Volsky tract there is also a Magyarsk cemetery. The number of buried people is unknown, you can probably find it on the websites
    2. Proxima
      Proxima 10 July 2017 13: 58
      +28
      Quote: Olgovich
      What memorials to these beasts ?!

      Not capturing war criminals is a common practice. Not only Vatutin gave such orders. It is enough to recall the order of Stalin not to capture the flayers from the infantry regiment who tortured Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya. Even if the soldier was out of business, anyway - the stigma of the entire unit.
      1. notingem
        notingem 13 July 2017 14: 18
        +6
        The killing of our parliamentarians in Budapest
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 10 July 2017 14: 11
      +24
      On the platform, surrounded by Hungarian gendarmes, stood a group of arrested ugrus. Among them were several Orthodox priests, teachers and peasants from different districts. Their hands were tied behind their ropes, and they themselves were tied in pairs to each other. The noses of most were broken, and the bumps that their gendarmes awarded during their arrest were swollen on their heads.
      At a distance, the Hungarian gendarme was amusing himself with the Orthodox priest. He tied a rope to his left leg, the other end of which he held in his hand, and, threatening his butt, made the unfortunate man dance the chardash. From time to time the gendarme pulled the rope, and the priest fell. Since his hands were tied behind his back, he could not stand up and made desperate attempts to roll onto his back in order to rise. The gendarme laughed heartily, to tears. When the priest managed to get up, the gendarme again pulled the rope, and the poor fellow again fell to the ground.
      This entertainment was put to an end by a gendarme officer who ordered the arrested people to be taken to the station, before the train arrived, in an empty barn so that no one could see them being beaten.
      © Hasek
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 10 July 2017 23: 40
        +3
        Having read the article, I immediately thought to insert a couple of paragraphs from "... Sewing". Withdrew, Alexey RA. Nothing changes ...
    4. rasteer
      rasteer 10 July 2017 17: 26
      +24
      Quote: Olgovich
      What memorials to these beasts ?!

      The point is not whether they are worthy of honors and memorials, but that, having undertaken international obligations, unlike many of our "blood brothers", we fulfill them, and do not mock memory for the sake of momentary goals. And the question is not why we care for the graves of the Hungarians, and why our state almost does not notice lawlessness with the graves of our soldiers in Poland or the Baltic states. And even on her land she’s not particularly zealous in preserving her memory, this concerns the graves and the veterans.
      1. RomanRVV
        RomanRVV 1 August 2017 10: 14
        +4
        As can be seen from the article, these memorials are kept at the expense of the Ministry of Defense of Hungary. In the controversy surrounding our memorials in Europe, you can clearly hear what kind of work to care for them, repair, restoration, etc. often volunteers and public organizations, associations of immigrants from the USSR are taken. At the same time, our military attaches do not forget to attend various events related to these memorials. And here the question arises: if our memorials here in Russia are in worse condition than foreign ones, then which of our official ministries and departments is responsible for the maintenance of our memorials in Russia and abroad? What is the budget of this department?
    5. Fight
      Fight 12 July 2017 05: 29
      +11
      There are no words! The degenerative rabble from Europe, which killed our compatriots, our women, children, the elderly, had to be completely erased from the planet. What these creatures did, destroying the Russian people, can never be forgiven. Any monuments, "reconciling" dedicated to the burial of this shit, which mocked our people, are simply blasphemous! Nobody has learned any lesson in the former Third Reich and the current EU: the humane attitude on the part of the USSR authorities to defeated monsters was really the worst crime of the Stalin era: as he, instead of finishing off monsters, he played in the “friendship of peoples”. Nazi criminals who committed genocide (and this is absolutely everyone who fought against the USSR in World War II) should have been put on trial and all executed, without exception. In the future, it is necessary to demolish any objects that are trying to change the truth about the monsters who fought against us, as well as uncompromisingly try all the heirs of the surviving Nazis who have bred in Europe and put them to eternal punishment - at least a permanent material payment for the crimes committed against the peoples of the USSR and moral repentance!
      1. Egor. rustic
        Egor. rustic 12 July 2017 19: 14
        +5
        Quote: Fight
        Any monuments, "reconciling" dedicated to the burial of this shit, which mocked our people, are simply blasphemous! Nobody has learned any lesson in the former Third Reich, and the current EU: the humane attitude, on the part of the USSR authorities, to defeated monsters was really the worst crime of the Stalin era:

        according to your logic, is Stalin to blame for not destroying the Anglo-Saxons who in Murmansk organized civilian concentration camps and mocked our people?
        Is Stalin to blame for not being a dumb beast?
    6. Quzmi4
      Quzmi4 28 February 2018 19: 55
      +1
      In the Tambov region, under the city of Michurinsky, there is Horse Mountain. This is called cattle cemetery (long-standing business). According to the recollections of my grandmother, in the same place there are mass graves of the Magyars and Romanians captured near Stalingrad who died during transportation to the camps: Michurinsk is a significant railway junction.
      So, in addition to memories, nothing - no monuments, no crosses.
      And this is somehow sweeter to me: they came to rob and kill on our land - rest with cattle and like cattle.
      Not politically correct.
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  4. Basil50
    Basil50 10 July 2017 07: 14
    +34
    The Hungarian uprising and the murders of all those suspected of disloyalty to Nazism today are extolled as something noble and liberating. And the roots of this are in alliance with Nazi Germany and the fact that the Nazis in Hungary also believed in their own * election *.
    Diplomacy and delicacy in relations between countries must be mutual. Today, the Hungarians make claims for suppressing the rebellion and absolutely * sincerely * do not want to remember either the alliance with the Nazis or what the * rebels * did not even want to remember the slogans. There they even bury them buried. This is not looking at the atrocities that these villains did, but they still had relatives, friends, acquaintances at home, and none of them even thought about what these bastards were doing. Then these all created the Nazi rebellion, which today is presented as a * democratic uprising *.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 10 July 2017 08: 35
      +30
      Quote: Vasily50
      and absolutely * sincerely * they don’t want to remember neither the alliance with the Nazis, nor what the * rebels * did even want to remember the slogans

      And if the the victims themselves they didn’t remember this for 40 years in the name of the new “social union” and forgave them EVERYTHING, why should the Hungarians remember something?

      They had to be punished with scary money, forced labor, reparations-up to this day! Then they would have remembered. And so .....
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 10 July 2017 10: 49
        +22
        Alas, Kremlin rushed with crazy ideas of "social community" and instead of reparations gave their last.
        I heard from acquaintances: in the sixties they came across a foreign humorous magazine and the Soviet Union and N. S. were painted in their underpants and shouted “to whom are the last underpants”?
        If they were kept on reparations, and not fed, they would now be “smart”
        1. Quzmi4
          Quzmi4 28 February 2018 19: 59
          0
          So DEMOCRATIC power how many billions of debts have forgiven (yesterday I read right there on the site)?
          And not ours, but ours with you (((((((((
  5. nizhegorodec
    nizhegorodec 10 July 2017 07: 26
    +21
    And how many more memorials to the Hungarian invaders died in captivity, I was surprised to see a memorial plaque at the Maryina Roscha cemetery in Nizhny Novgorod. It seems that there was a small army, but the bug was "inherited great", but it smelly.
  6. atos_kin
    atos_kin 10 July 2017 07: 36
    +45
    We built it on a grand scale to show what kind of Russian monsters that so many people had chopped up. In 10 years they will make them repent for it. Allow one cross for all Basurmans, indicating the total number and list of crimes. On the remaining plates write the names of the dead at their hands the inhabitants of the Soviet Union.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 10 July 2017 09: 24
      +20
      Quote: atos_kin
      Allow one cross for all Basurmans, indicating the total number and list of crimes.

      Near Poltava there is a "Swedish grave". There are three crosses - one to Russian soldiers, and two to Swedish.
      One from the Russians, the second from the Swedes. Those. we delivered both ours and the Swedes, and the Swedes, for some reason, only ours.
    2. lwxx
      lwxx 10 July 2017 09: 42
      +13
      And also to conduct excursions for foreign tourists, so that they would remember and know whoever comes to us with a sword will stay here.
  7. avva2012
    avva2012 10 July 2017 07: 39
    +31
    Yes, the Magyars were noted on our land.
    Head of the Political Administration of the Voronezh Front, Lieutenant General S.S. Shatilov sent a report to the head of the Main Political Administration of the Red Army A.S. To Shcherbakov: “I’m reporting the facts of the atrocious atrocities of the German invaders and their Hungarian lackeys over Soviet citizens and captured Red Army soldiers. Parts of the army, where the head of the political department of Comrade Klokov, the village of Shchuchye was liberated from the Magyars. After the invaders were expelled from the village of Shchuchye political instructor Popov M. A., military assistants Konovalov A. L. and Chervintsev T. I. found traces of the monstrous atrocities of the Magyars over the citizens of the village of Shchuchye and the captured Red Army soldiers and commanders. Lieutenant Salogub Vladimir Ivanovich was captured n captured and tortured to death. His body revealed more than twenty (20) stab wounds.
    The younger political instructor Bolshakov Fedor Ivanovich, seriously wounded, was captured. Bloodthirsty robbers scoffed at the Communist’s motionless body. Stars were carved in his arms. On the back there were several stab wounds ... In the eyes of the whole village, a citizen Kuzmenko was shot by the Magyars for finding an 4 cartridge in his hut. As soon as the Nazi slaves broke into the village, they immediately began to take all men from 13 to 80 years old and steal them to their rear. More than 200 people were transported by them from the village of Shchuchye. Of these, people were shot outside the village of 13. Among those executed were Nikita Nikiforovich Pivovarov, his son Nikolay Pivovarov, Mikhail Nikolayevich Zybin, head of the school; Shevelev Zakhar Fedorovich, Korzhev Nikolay Pavlovich and others.
    Many residents had their belongings and livestock taken away. Fascist bandits stole 170 cows and more than 300 sheep taken from citizens. Many girls and women were raped. The act of the monstrous atrocities of the Nazis will be sent today. "
    Abandoned by residents fleeing Hungarian punishers, villages were burned out. Natalya Aldushina, a resident of the village, wrote: “When we returned from the forest to the village, the village could not be recognized. Several old men, women and children were brutally murdered by the Hungarians. The houses were burned, the cattle large and small were stolen. Pits in which ours were buried things were dug up. There was nothing left in the village but black brick. " (GARF. F. P-7021. Op. 37. D. 423. L.517.) In June - July 1942, units of the 102 and 108 th Hungarian divisions took part in carrying out a punitive operation against the Bryansk guerrillas codenamed "Vogelsang". During the operation in the forests between Roslavl and Bryansk punitives, 1193 partisans were killed, 1400 wounded, 498 captured, more than 12 000 residents evicted. The Hungarian units of the 102 (42, 43, 44 and 51 regiments) and 108 divisions took part in punitive operations against the Nachbarhilfe partisans (June 1943 of the year) near Bryansk and Zigeunerbaron "in the areas of the present Bryansk and Kursk regions (May 16 - June 6 1942 years). Only during Operation "Zigeunerbaron" were punishers destroyed 207 partisan camps, 1584 partisans killed and 1558 captured. "
    So, in the 1943 year, when retreating from the Chernyansky district of the Kursk region, "the Magyar military units stole the prisoners of war of the Red Army and 200 of the Soviet patriots in the 160 concentration camp. During the journey, the Nazi barbarians blocked all of these 360 people in the school building, doused with gasoline and burned alive. They tried to escape trying to run. " Examples of documents about the crimes of Hungarian military personnel during the Second World War can be cited from foreign archives, for example, the Israeli archive Yad Vashem of the national memorial to the Holocaust and Heroism in Jerusalem:
    "12 - 15 July 1942 in the village of Kharkeevka, Shatalovsky District, Kursk Region, soldiers of the 33 Hungarian Infantry Division captured four Red Army soldiers. One of them, Senior Lieutenant P.V. Danilov, gouged out his eyes with a rifle on his butt. , inflicted 12 bayonet strikes in the back, and then unconsciously buried half-dead in the ground. Three Red Army men whose names are unknown were shot "(Archive Yad Vashem. M-33 / 497. L. 53.). A resident of the city of Ostogozhsk, Maria Kaydannikova, saw how Hungarian soldiers on 5 January 1943 drove a group of Soviet prisoners of war into the basement of a store on Medvedovsky Street. Soon, screams were heard from there. Looking out the window, Kaydannikova saw a monstrous picture: “A bonfire burned brightly. Two Magyars held the prisoner by the shoulders and legs and slowly roasted his stomach and legs in the fire. They either lifted him above the fire or lowered him, and when he died down, the Magyars they threw his body face down on the fire. Suddenly the prisoner twitched again. Then one of the Magyars with a sweeping thrust a bayonet in his back "(Archive Yad Vashem. M-33 / 494. L. 14.).
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 10 July 2017 09: 13
      +22
      Reading is scary, goosebumps.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 10 July 2017 11: 46
      +10
      An acquaintance said: “An urgent one passed near Uzhgorod in 1968-1970. Once, from an autocratic wolf, he returned through the gardens, and the owner saw and let us curse“ your muzzle’s muzzle ”. In my opinion, this is an indicator
    3. Military Builder
      Military Builder 10 July 2017 12: 30
      +11
      The father of my elder brother's mother-in-law, at the end of May 1945, was injured in a hospital in Hungary, at night the Magyars attacked the hospital and cut everyone out
  8. avva2012
    avva2012 10 July 2017 07: 53
    +17
    The motto of the Hungarian Royal Army "The price of Hungarian life - Soviet death"
    8 Hungarians were awarded the German Knights Crosses. During the Second World War, the largest number of volunteers in the SS troops gave Hungary. In the war against the USSR, more than 200 thousand Hungarians died (including 55 thousand - they died in Soviet captivity). During the Second World War, Hungary lost about 300 thousand soldiers killed, 513 766 people were captured. Only Hungarian generals in Soviet prison camps after the war numbered 49 people, including the chief of the General Staff of the Hungarian army.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 July 2017 11: 21
      +22
      What can I say! Hungary was preparing to participate in WWII together with Hitler, began to receive bonuses from him --- the territories of other countries. After WWII, Hungary had to pay reparations and paid them to different countries! And they didn’t understand --- for what it is [sarcasm] for them: hardships, lack of funds. Just Bender’s brothers in mind (and us for sho ???). That is how the “Maidan” happened in 1956. I recently read that the cia had a hand in this (author ---- Nikolai Platoshkin, “Budapest: Gloomy Autumn of the 56th.” ”By the way, this author has many good publications. He --- Candidate of historical sciences, assistant professor, was at diplomatic work).
      More than 500 thousand Hungarian Jews died in concentration camps and at transit points.
      In 1947, Hungary lost territories acquired after 1938.
      It’s just scary to read about the crimes of Hungarians on Soviet soil. Such atrocities! ...
    2. Quzmi4
      Quzmi4 28 February 2018 20: 02
      0
      However, there was a Hero of the Soviet Union Janos Otokar.
      But Mate Zalka died defending Spain from the Nazis ...
  9. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 10 July 2017 07: 56
    +31
    Hungarians are very noted in our territory. But we treated them, even the prisoners, in a completely different way. I will bring my own experience. In 1983-84, I was in Hungary on a long "tourist trip on a tank", our "camp site" was located near the town of Nagykeres, near the city of Kecskemét. And since I "traveled" well, in the autumn of 1983 I got a vacation to my homeland, I came back through the aforementioned Kecskemét alone, without an accompanying person, and decided to walk to a part. So, on the way I talked with an old man - a modar, who spoke good Russian. He told me that he respects the Russians very much, as he was held captive during the war. So, I realized that the "gay men" should respect us, we need to go to them on trips more often ... in tanks!
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 10 July 2017 11: 13
      +9
      So, on the way I talked with an old man - a modar, who spoke good Russian. He told me that he respects the Russians very much, as he was held captive during the war.

      OWL. SECRET 1950 Moscow, Kremlin. On the repatriation of prisoners of war and interned citizens of Hungary and Romania.
      1. Allow the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs (i.e. Kruglov) to repatriate to Hungary and Romania:
      a) 1270 prisoners of war and interned citizens of Hungary, including 13 generals (Appendix No. 1) and 1629 prisoners of war and interned citizens of Romania who do not have compromising materials;
      b) 6061 prisoners of war of citizens of Hungary and 3139 prisoners of war of citizens of Romania - former employees of intelligence, counterintelligence agencies, gendarmerie, police, who served in the SS troops, security and other punitive units of the Hungarian and Romanian armies, captured mainly in the territory of Hungary and Romania, since they do not have materials about their war crimes against the USSR.
      3. Allow the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs (i.e. Kruglov) to leave 355 prisoners of war and interned citizens of Hungary in the USSR, including 9 generals (appendix No. 2) and 543 prisoners of war and interned citizens of Romania, including Brigadier General Stanescu Stoyan Nikolai, convicted of participating in atrocities and atrocities, espionage, sabotage, banditry and major thefts of socialist property - until the sentence has been determined by the court.
      4. To oblige the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs (t. Kruglova) and the USSR Prosecutor's Office (t. Safonova) to prosecute 142 Hungarian prisoners of war and 20 Romanian prisoners of war for their atrocities and crimes.
      5. To oblige the Ministry of State Security of the USSR (t. Abakumova) to accept from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR 89 persons of prisoners of war of Hungarian citizens who served in the gendarmerie and police in the Transcarpathian and Stanislav regions, to document their criminal activities and bring them to criminal responsibility.
      Appendix 1 LIST of Prisoners of War generals of the former Hungarian army convicted by the Military Tribunals for crimes against the USSR:
      1. Aldya-Pap Zoltan Johann 1895 born General - Lieutenant
      2. Bauman Istvan Franz 1894 born General - Major
      3. Vashvari Friedrich Joseph 1895 born General - Major
      4. Vukovari Derd Jacob 1892 born General - Major
      5. Sabo Laszlo Anton 1895 born General - Major
      6. Feher Geso Arpad 1883 born General - Major
      7. Shimonfay Ferenc Ferenc born in 1891 General - Major
      8. Erlich Geso Agoshton born in 1890 General - Major
      9. Yabran Mihai Miklos 1895g. General - Lieutenant
      1. DNR-Donbass
        DNR-Donbass 25 July 2017 00: 15
        +3
        More than half of the names are Hungarian Jews, and yes they have nothing to do with it! The most affected ... these are the most important parasites on earth and the instigators of war!
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 10 July 2017 08: 08
    +11
    In our town, until 1971 the Germans were buried in the central park, the crosses were originally, then trees were demolished, in 1971 the remains were taken out and transferred to the German side. He was small, but I remember the cordon around the park for about a week, they didn’t let anyone in. Yes, the park then, in the old fashioned way, it was surrounded by a cast-iron openwork fence, with monograms, the gates were closed at night. Then, in the 90s, one of the town governors fenced his house.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 10 July 2017 11: 25
      +10
      Yeahhhh, the fence from the burial place to steal ---- it's strong! Even if it ceased to exist. OR, maybe he took it for conservation? It’s interesting how one lives behind such a fence. Such sarcasm is obtained.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 10 July 2017 11: 27
      +7
      Sailboat, you are right once once made beautiful fences around parks and there was order in the parks, and now it’s in the past.
      In the village in the early thirties, the kings were blown up, a hospital was fenced with a church fence, and so it was 50-60 years. Now around the hospital is a concrete fence
  11. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 10 July 2017 09: 08
    +16
    In August, near Uman, a large group of Soviet troops was surrounded. The surrounded units did not intend to give up and made desperate attempts to break through the encirclement. The Hungarians played an almost decisive role in the defeat of this group.

    Around there in August 1941, my grandfather was captured. He fought in the 200 rifle division. It turns out that the Hungarians made their contribution. Thank you, I didn’t.
    1. novel66
      novel66 10 July 2017 09: 26
      +15
      meet the Hungarian - do not get lost!
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 10 July 2017 09: 56
        +15
        Roman, yes I’m not vindictive, but evil and my memory is not ..... bad.
        By the way, in your opinion I should kiss the Poles. The Poles helped their grandfather escape from captivity in 1945. From the camp they sent to work to the Polish pan, and he helped them take refuge before our arrival.
        1. novel66
          novel66 10 July 2017 10: 04
          +10
          yeah, the situation request I’ll say banality - good people need to stick together, I guess. there are still more of us!
        2. michell
          michell 11 July 2017 15: 19
          +10
          Quote: Okolotochny
          The Poles helped their grandfather escape from captivity in 1945. From the camp they sent to work to the Polish pan, and he helped them take refuge before our arrival.

          My grandfather told me exactly the opposite - of those who fled from their camp (the fugitives were always returned to the same camp from which they fled), not a single person could pass Poland - Germany passed (i.e. Germans - simple local burghers - helped Russian prisoners), no one passed Poland - the locals surrendered everyone to the police.
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 11 July 2017 16: 58
            +8
            All people are different. It must be borne in mind that 1945, ours is already in Poland. Maybe they wanted to earn "balls"? God knows them.
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 10 July 2017 11: 13
    +10
    I heard from the old people: the Hungarians went into the war and they showed themselves to be unreasonably cruel.
    On the one hand, the presence of such burials on our territory is annoying, but on the other hand, Roman correctly said: ".... We Russians do not fight the dead." It was the pans who forgot who freed them and behave like ungrateful cattle, and a bad example is contagious: Pan Pedro and K. with such excitement rushed to fight the Soviet past
    1. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 10 July 2017 17: 00
      +24
      Quote: Monarchist
      It was the pans who forgot who freed them and behave like ungrateful cattle, and a bad example is contagious: Pan Pedro and K. with such excitement rushed to fight the Soviet past

      Well, for the sake of justice it is worth saying that you are wrong. We did not free the Hungarians. We defeated them in a heavy bloody war. The Hungarians turned out to be a very stubborn fearless adversary, and unlike the Romanians and Bulgarians, they did not rebuild on the fly when the smell was fried. The Hungarians fought against our and Romanian troops to the last. They fought fiercely, not sparing their lives and ours. No wonder the battle of Budapest (1944-1945) is considered very difficult and is compared with the Stalingrad. Remember the song?
      The soldiers were hoppy, the tear was rolling,
      A tear of unfulfilled hopes,
      And on his chest shone
      Medal for the city of Budapest.
      1. alatanas
        alatanas 10 July 2017 17: 26
        +7
        Until September 07.09.1944, XNUMX, Bulgaria and the USSR were in diplomatic relations. Do not compare with the Romanians, who are still remembered in the Odessa region for example. Bulgaria did not fight against the USSR. Fought together with the XNUMXrd Ukrainian Front in Yugoslavia, in Hungary at the Drava River and Lake Balaton, and ended the war in Austria (Graz). The Bulgarian commander, General Vladimir Stoychev, is a participant in the victory parade.
        1. d.gksueyjd
          d.gksueyjd 10 July 2017 23: 11
          +12
          I’m supposed to disappoint you- Bulgaria fought against the USSR and not one thousand Bulgarian Natsiks were buried in the territory of the USSR.
          1. Two handed
            Two handed 11 July 2017 05: 59
            +7
            this is where you and the pluses subtracted such nonsense? Bulgaria and the USSR were at war only a few days in 1944, and even then quite nominally, without military operations.
          2. Two handed
            Two handed 11 July 2017 06: 39
            +6
            Not just one thousand?) Throughout the war, the Germans demanded the Bulgarian “volunteers” but Bulgaria refused, the only unit is the “brigade” of ss with 500-600 goals formed from the anti-communists who fled from Bulgaria, after she declared Germany’s war, she joined the battle only on May 5 1945, well, of course, it didn’t last long (if at all).
          3. Gado
            Gado 15 July 2017 11: 24
            +5
            I must disappoint you - there are not a thousand buried Bulgarians in the territory of the former USSR, due to their absence there. And putting the Bulgarians on a par with the Hungarians speaks only about your ignorance of the history of your own state and you should be ashamed of it. Something like this. But the Russian people know the truth very well; in Bulgaria, Russians feel much more comfortable than anywhere else. And this is also indicative.
          4. valerij
            valerij 1 September 2017 21: 33
            +3
            I must disappoint you .. In the Second World War, not a single Bulgarian soldier crossed the border of the USSR ..
        2. Nikolay Fedorov
          Nikolay Fedorov 12 July 2017 11: 41
          +4
          Quote: alatanas
          Until September 07.09.1944, XNUMX, Bulgaria and the USSR were in diplomatic relations. Do not compare with the Romanians, who are still remembered in the Odessa region for example. Bulgaria did not fight against the USSR. Fought together with the XNUMXrd Ukrainian Front in Yugoslavia, in Hungary at the Drava River and Lake Balaton, and ended the war in Austria (Graz). The Bulgarian commander, General Vladimir Stoychev, is a participant in the victory parade.

          Bulgaria was an ally of Germany and Italy, but officially its troops on the Eastern Front did not fight. However, an SS brigade, composed entirely of Bulgarian volunteers, fought on the territory of the USSR. As well as Bulgarian sailors and pilots participated in escorting German and Italian convoys along the Black Sea, which our submarines hunted for. The Bulgarians sank one of our submarines (together with the Russian brothers). According to unconfirmed reports, the Bulgarians had another submarine and two Soviet aircraft. Also, the Bulgarians attacked American convoys with Lenlis for the USSR, fired on Anglo-American bombers returning from the bombing of the Romanian oil fields in Ploiesti. In general, the "bros" crap as they could. And they don’t have any understanding or forgiveness for this. Because many of ours died because of the Bulgarians ...
          1. alatanas
            alatanas 12 July 2017 13: 21
            +3
            And the Bulgarians attacked the American convoys with Lenliz for the USSR

            Tell me, where was the Bulgarian "ocean fleet" based, or how did the American convoys with Lendlis go across the Black Sea? laughing
            fired on Anglo-American bombers returning from the bombing of the Romanian oil fields in Ploiesti.

            They fought as best they could when they massively bombed Sofia, where there was nothing strategic and there was no concentration of German troops.
            1. alatanas
              alatanas 12 July 2017 13: 37
              +2
              And read Zweihander's comments about the SS brigade.
            2. Nikolay Fedorov
              Nikolay Fedorov 13 July 2017 18: 03
              +2
              Quote: alatanas
              And the Bulgarians attacked the American convoys with Lenliz for the USSR

              Tell me, where was the Bulgarian "ocean fleet" based, or how did the American convoys with Lendlis go across the Black Sea? laughing

              Apologize hi Blurted out without thinking feel For some reason, I previously thought that the trans-Iranian route of American Lendlis passed through the Mediterranean Sea, then through Syria, Iraq, Iran to the Caspian. feel Now, after your remark, I delved into the route and found out with shame that the route ran through the Persian Gulf, further through Iran - and to the Caspian. I apologize again hi
          2. pytar
            pytar 20 December 2017 10: 09
            +4
            However, an SS brigade, composed entirely of Bulgarian volunteers, fought on the territory of the USSR.

            Not a single Bulgarian soldier fought on the territory of the USSR! T.N. The "SS brigade" was held from 500-700 ethnic Bulgarians, citizens of Germany, Austria and Hungary + deserters from the SUA + nurse college in Vienna. They were assembled by order of Himler in the territory of Germany after Bulgaria entered the war against Germany in October 1944. This incomprehensible "unit" staggered randomly along the roads of Austria and was not noted in any special "feats". "Volunteers" even fought among themselves in internal showdowns. At that time and until the end of the war, Bulgaria fought on the fronts against Nazi Germany, a half-million army. Bulgarian losses - 32 thousand. Losses of Germans in battles with the Bulgarians - about 78 ~ 82 thousand. Interesting fact in connection with the theme of the Hungarians - The hardest and most bloody battles of the Bulgarian army, as part of the troops of the III-Ukrainian front under the command of Ten. Tolbukhina led on the territory of Hungary, at the Battle of Ballaton.
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 11 July 2017 08: 10
        +4
        Quote: Nikolai Fedorov We defeated them in a heavy bloody war. The Hungarians turned out to be a very stubborn fearless adversary, and unlike the Romanians and Bulgarians, they did not rebuild on the fly when the smell was fried. The Hungarians fought against our and Romanian troops to the last. They fought fiercely, not sparing their lives and ours.

        Everything is so, but it seems that they did not have time to jump.
        Hungary was negotiating with the enemy, and none other than the Hungarian regent Horthy himself confirmed this in his book Life for Hungary, published in Bonn in 1953. In particular, he writes the following there: "A secret agreement with the Western powers, under which we pledged not to harm their aircraft, and they in turn promised not to bomb the Hungarian cities, could only be welcomed by the Germans, because thanks to this, such important strategically railways and our military industry. The first contact with the British was established in the summer of the 1942 of the year ... At the end of September of the 1944 of the year I sent the head of the Hungarian gendarmerie to the field marshal to Moscow l-lieutenant Laszlo Farago, our former military attache in Moscow, who spoke good Russian, went to the university professor Count Geza Teleki, son of the tragically dead Prime Minister Paul Teleki, and adviser Domonkoe von St. as representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs -Ivani. More evidence: An excerpt from the personal diary of the Hungarian Colonel General Ferenc Farkashi: “In September 1944, I secretly passed a group led by Baron Axel Ede, who was going to negotiate a ceasefire, to Moscow. I also ensured his return. I took the heavy responsibility on my shoulders, for if the Germans had noticed anything, I would have fallen into the hands of the Gestapo. Thus, I provided the first practical step on the path of Hungary to armistice negotiations. On October 14 I was recalled as regent and appointed chen commander of the defense of Budapest. In practice, the regent had intended after the proclamation of his conversion from 15 October resignation Lakatos Government entrusted me to form a new government that is configured to the friendly Russian ... " And finally, it was like this: The commander of the 1 Hungarian Army, operating on the left wing of the army group, Colonel General Miklos addressed his officers and soldiers the same day with the following appeal: “To the officers and soldiers of the 1 Army! To all members of the Hungarian Armed Forces! I I’ll inform you that the high-ranking Vitegas of Nadbány Miklos Horthy, the state regent of Hungary, made a temporary cease-fire with the Soviet Union, England and the United States of America. The purpose of this agreement is to save the Hungarian people from bloody jerks TV in the name of the German plan for the conquest of world domination, ensuring the independence of the Hungarian state and the expulsion of German invaders from our country. The old enemies of Hungary - the Germans in response to this, arrested the state regent and kept him in custody. The commander in chief of the Hungarian army was able only to flee to save his life. Budapest occupied by the German army.In the capital of Hungary, the head of the German Gestapo, the leader of all the bloody executioners, is rampant, and the executioner’s ax threatens every Hungarian. Hungarian officers and soldiers! Your duty is to save Hungary and the Hungarian people. State regen declared war on Germany. In this war we are supported by the Soviet Union, England and the United States of America, we are supported by the victorious armies of these states.
        I, as the senior Hungarian military commander, I order you, on behalf of a state regent who is suffering in German captivity, to rise to fight against the German invaders and Hitler's spies, as well as Gestapo agents and minions of the traitor Salasha’s homeland.
        I, the Commander-in-Chief of the Hungarian Armed Forces, order all Hungarian officers and soldiers to begin the fight with all means at their disposal against the invaders and oppressors of the German murderers, as well as against the traitors of the Hungarian people. I order that all the traitors imposed on you by the traitor Salashi be imposed commanders. You must settle accounts with every oath-criminal who has sold himself to the Germans. In the places where you cannot engage in open struggle, wage a hidden guerrilla war with the German bandits. If this is also impossible, leave with whole companies, battalions and regiments to the areas liberated by the Russians, where you, under my command, together with the Russian army will fight for the independence and honor of Hungary. Miklos, Colonel General".
        1. Nikolay Fedorov
          Nikolay Fedorov 11 July 2017 11: 26
          +4
          Quote: avva2012

          Everything is so, but it seems that they did not have time to jump.
          Hungary was negotiating with the enemy, and none other than the Hungarian regent Horthy himself ...

          I agree with you. There was no single Hungary, thinking and acting unanimously. However, the same situation was in other countries. It’s just that the salashists prevailed in Hungary, and their resistance was weak and small.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 11 July 2017 11: 39
            +5
            Quote: Nikolai Fedorov There was no single Hungary, thinking and acting unanimously.

            Due to the complication of the situation near Miskolc, new ones that we did not foresee were added to the existing concerns. When the fighting began on the approaches to this large industrial city, over 20 of thousands of local workers revolted.
            They took a hostile attitude towards the troops. Obviously, they wanted to transfer the industrial enterprises into Soviet hands, as far as possible intact. At night, they organized raids on our positions, shot at German soldiers. Communist leaflets were distributed in thousands. The Hungarian authorities took insufficient measures against the rebels, and then German sappers were thrown here to restore order.
        2. zoolu300
          zoolu300 18 July 2017 14: 37
          +4
          Well, it became clear that only the German allies did not allow Hungary to change shoes in a jump like Romania and Bulgaria. And Hungary at least partially received for the atrocities that its armies committed on the territory of the USSR.
      3. michell
        michell 11 July 2017 15: 24
        +13
        Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
        No wonder the battle of Budapest (1944-1945) is considered very difficult and is compared with the Stalingrad.

        And pay attention to the name of the medal - "For the capture of Budapest." Those. unlike the medals "For the Liberation of Prague", "For the Liberation of Vienna" this medal is put on a par with the medals "For the capture of Koenigsberg", "For the capture of Berlin".
        1. Nikolay Fedorov
          Nikolay Fedorov 11 July 2017 17: 00
          +4
          Quote: michell
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          No wonder the battle of Budapest (1944-1945) is considered very difficult and is compared with the Stalingrad.

          And pay attention to the name of the medal - "For the capture of Budapest." Those. unlike the medals "For the Liberation of Prague", "For the Liberation of Vienna" this medal is put on a par with the medals "For the capture of Koenigsberg", "For the capture of Berlin".

          Thank! Somehow I did not analyze these facts with these awards, but in fact, an interesting point ...
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 11 July 2017 17: 30
            +6
            The Czechs turned out to be the most quick-witted, famously with their “uprising” they “transferred” for “liberation” for taking “)))
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 11 July 2017 20: 36
              +2
              But the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia did not have its own armed forces, except for a ridiculous "state army" of less than 10 thousand people, armed exclusively with small arms.
      4. Quzmi4
        Quzmi4 28 February 2018 20: 06
        +1
        The medal is not for the "Liberation", namely for the "Capture of Budapest", feel the difference, as they say.
  13. Graz
    Graz 10 July 2017 11: 15
    +13
    all our burials from Europe must be taken out and re-buried with us, demolished monuments in Poland, in a year two graves will be leveled with the earth, and then the same thing will start in other countries of eastern Europe, it’s only a matter of time, I don’t understand why our organizations who are engaged in search, burial and other similar things do not sound the alarm, no matter how late it becomes in the end, from Poland, it’s necessary to transport the remains of their ancestors to their homeland
  14. Gennady Kramarev
    Gennady Kramarev 10 July 2017 13: 43
    +7
    Evidence of this is the stories of my grandfather, a fighter of 41 joint ventures of the 10th division of the NKVD,

    How to establish contact with the author of the article? My grandfather was also a fighter of the 41 rifle regiment of the NKVD. Missing in the battles for Voronezh. Thank you for the article!
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    2. ssergn
      ssergn 13 July 2017 17: 25
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Kramarev
      How to establish contact with the author of the article? My grandfather was also a fighter of the 41 rifle regiment of the NKVD. Missing in the battles for Voronezh. Thank you for the article!


      Write to him in PM. Roman Skomorokhov, this is Banshee.
  15. artwin
    artwin 10 July 2017 13: 57
    +5
    It would be necessary for each such cemetery to organize the inscription "whoever comes to us with a sword will get here."
  16. Chew yourself
    Chew yourself 10 July 2017 14: 05
    +21
    I was born and raised in Voronezh like all my relatives, my father was an 11-year-old boy in occupation, my mother’s grandmother with two children, too, they all said that they were doing Hungarians on our land! For me personally, there is no excuse for these animals, I want to say one thing if I’m in those places where the cemeteries of these geeks are the least I’ll spit it. Let me condemn but no one called us to them.
  17. vavla
    vavla 10 July 2017 15: 01
    +8
    I am surprised at all these burials! What a nightmare ... After all, people are being buried, not nonhumans ...
    Oh, Russia! Oh, wonderful Russian soul! No matter what "good" explanations and justifications for this were
    it’s all a mockery of common sense and an ugly, vile spit in the Souls of the slain,
    torn apart by RUSSIAN PEOPLE-our ancestors. They at one time could not protect, save them
    life, and today we can’t protect them with LIGHT MEMORY ... Not all humanism, but an act
    contempt for the memory of ANCESTORS !!!
  18. Dmitry Aleksandrovich
    Dmitry Aleksandrovich 10 July 2017 15: 22
    +13
    I come from those places on the east bank of the Don. The Hungarians stood in the west, and mixed with the Germans, and there were still Romanians, and other "allies." So, according to the recollections of the civilians who survived the occupation, the Germans maintained order, neither theft, nor looting, nor rape. Where the "allies" stood, women from 12 to 60 were hiding, God forbid the cuckoo hen, or the goby closes. The photo is right in the subject. Grandfather had a friend from the right bank, he was 10 or 12 years old during the occupation, he hated Hungarians until the end of his life.
  19. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 10 July 2017 16: 22
    +7
    As always, under the banner of nonhumans, nonhumans gather! And not to capture nonhumans !!! So it was and it will be so!
  20. erased
    erased 10 July 2017 16: 26
    +8
    You can still marry a memorial plaque in St. Petersburg to General Jan. Like such a commander, I didn’t want to shoot at the Russians, but they forced me to. The former city of Russian glory, disgraced by the Kadyrov Bridge and Mannerheim Board, will not tolerate this.
    As a fertilizer for Mother Earth, the Hungarians came no worse than the Fritz, French, Italians, Spaniards and other "partners". Although alien manure is not particularly needed, there is enough of its own, liberal-tolerant.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 10 July 2017 17: 58
      +2
      Quote: erased
      The former city of Russian glory, disgraced by the Kadyrov Bridge and Mannerheim Board, will not tolerate this.

      You might think that such monuments were only in St. Petersburg.
      Here you have Moscow, for example:

      The “von Pannwitz” mentioned there is Lieutenant General of the Wehrmacht, and later the SS group von Pannwitz (pictured in the center):
      1. d.gksueyjd
        d.gksueyjd 10 July 2017 23: 14
        +3
        Please inform me where in Moscow this blasphemy was established.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 11 July 2017 09: 46
          +2
          It used to be at the "Reconciliation of Peoples" memorial at the Temple of All Saints on the Falcon.
      2. ty60
        ty60 22 September 2017 22: 41
        +2
        And if I’m not mistaken, next to him in Cossack uniform is Shkuro
    2. Mikhalych 70
      Mikhalych 70 10 July 2017 23: 57
      +6
      It’s a shame for Kadyrov’s bridge and Mannerheim’s board. Huber, I think, signed for the sake of "politeness". Although at this place in the 41st one of the three landings was thrown, which almost all died. But, as they say on TV, this is a completely different story ...
    3. Ruslan Khamitov
      Ruslan Khamitov 16 July 2017 17: 34
      0
      Quote: erased
      You can still marry a memorial plaque in St. Petersburg to General Jan. Like such a commander, I didn’t want to shoot at the Russians, but they forced me to. The former city of Russian glory, disgraced by the Kadyrov Bridge and Mannerheim Board, will not tolerate this.
      As a fertilizer for Mother Earth, the Hungarians came no worse than the Fritz, French, Italians, Spaniards and other "partners". Although alien manure is not particularly needed, there is enough of its own, liberal-tolerant.

      I can’t understand why such a hate for Mannerheim. please do not throw stones.
    4. CAM
      CAM 16 September 2017 12: 24
      +3
      Mannerheim board dismantled
  21. shark
    shark 10 July 2017 16: 32
    +12
    History repeats itself. Europeans forgot their lessons and did not draw conclusions. Personally, I am convinced stsuki are getting ready. And the Hungarians, and Czechs and Slovaks and "brothers" Bulgarians. Slavic brotherhood of Mlyn. Well, why does it happen — the more westward the Slovenian people are, the more rotten? Serbs are the only exception. But they will not last long. Neighbors, by the way, too, the Slavs will "help"
    1. ssergn
      ssergn 13 July 2017 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: shark
      . And the Hungarians, and Czechs and Slovaks and "brothers" Bulgarians. Slavic brotherhood of Mlyn.


      And since when did the Hungarians become Slavs? Finno-Ugric group does not say anything?
  22. Alexander Bagaev
    Alexander Bagaev 10 July 2017 16: 53
    +2
    The colleague’s wife has a house in Ostrogozhsk. He told me that many search engines in the local vegetable gardens worked. Germans and Hungarians got out.
  23. barclay
    barclay 10 July 2017 17: 00
    +8
    Well, the earth is glassy to them.
  24. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 10 July 2017 17: 40
    +16
    Hungarians! You burned our ancestors, cut, not even putting a peg on Russian graves. We set and guard you with a nod to the cemetery. Respectable inscriptions were hung ... With great respect and respect ... Well, of course, the advocates of tolerance and other Euro-values ​​will say - some Hungarians burned and cut, and completely different Hungarians are in the cemetery. Well, well ... and then I want to swear, but you can not ...
    It should be simple and correct, in my opinion. Is there a burial place for the killed Hungarian soldiers (Romanian, German, Italian, etc. ubl-kov who came to our land to kill us)? Let it be. And we ourselves must contain it, without the participation of foreign states. So that we can decide for ourselves what to write on gravestones. That there was no honor, no respect. And there should be a fence and the inscription "Here lie the Hungarian soldiers who came to our land to kill, but were killed themselves. So it will be with everyone who comes to us not with good. Remember. Do not forget." Approximately such text or other options, but so that was the meaning.
    1. Andrea1278
      Andrea1278 10 July 2017 22: 50
      +5
      By the way, not all Hungarians are united. See how our troops entered Hungary in 1956. Almost all the Hungarian armed forces showed no resistance! They were not against us. But the fascist shortcomings liberated from our camps and their sons, yes, they sought to avenge their full-time relatives buried in Russia.
  25. ando_bor
    ando_bor 10 July 2017 17: 48
    +2
    Stalin ordered, Vatutin ordered, - they were taken prisoner, including near Voronezh, and according to the ratio of the killed -
    The Magyars surrendered prisoners near Voronezh, although less often than Italians, but more often than Germans, there may have been some episode in a specific battle, where they were not taken prisoner and the stories went.
    1. Andrea1278
      Andrea1278 10 July 2017 22: 54
      +7
      These are not tales at all. Of the 300 Hungarians killed in the USSR, only about 000 lie in the graves. Where are the rest? Where the warriors of Napoleon, Hitler and the Fuhrer are smaller - in the fields, pits and ravines. The sentence not to take Hungarians prisoner was given by simple Soviet soldiers and carried out the sentence.
      By the way, the figure of about 300 thousand dead is quite lowered by the Hungarian authorities. In reality, to summarize the Soviet reports, they died more. It is simply embarrassing for the Hungarians to show a high mortality rate compared to the German units. And the years of standing of our Southern Group of Forces in the Hungarian People's Republic made themselves felt ....
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 11 July 2017 16: 07
        +3
        Have you forgotten about the 500 thousand Hungarian prisoners? How did they get captured?
  26. Sergg
    Sergg 10 July 2017 18: 19
    +5
    Well, what did the Hungarian fascists come and die from the just retribution of the Russian soldier. We should not contain a cemetery, this is a cemetery of criminals and, by human standards, nonhumans. If Hungary will keep its military cemeteries, then please out of philanthropy. But each Hungarian inscription should be coordinated with our authorities, there shouldn’t be any memory for the murdered Nazis and there can be no honor to them.
  27. EvilLion
    EvilLion 10 July 2017 19: 25
    +5
    Losses of the corps on the Eastern Front amounted to 2700 people killed (including 200 officers), 7500 wounded and 1500 missing.


    That is, according to the most minimal estimate of 25k, a person of initial composition is killed by more than 10%. Of the 1500 missing at least 1000, but rather 95% were also killed, or died after being captured, although under the conditions of the 41 year they had little chance of getting captured at all. The number of wounded, as in 2-3 times the number of those killed for WWII, is generally typical. I understand that the warriors are not a couple to the Germans, neither in skill nor in weaponry, but it is also unlikely that they were in the thick of it and fell into decisive directions. If we extrapolate the percentage of casualties (we accept 15%) to the German army, it turns out that from 5.5 million of the invading army of the original strength, about 800 thousand were eliminated by December 41. Another 2 million lay in hospitals, since the losses were mainly borne by military personnel, and not by drivers, who are one in ten, or cooks, aerodrome and other technical personnel, it is not surprising that there were 25 people left in the companies, because The reserve army before the start of the database was only 1 million people, having scooped up the whole, they might have covered the decline in the killed, but seriously wounded in the summer just by December could only begin to enter the reserve army for further distribution on the death conveyor.

    But we will go further and retell German tales about their losses.
  28. EvilLion
    EvilLion 10 July 2017 19: 30
    +6
    It’s good that there is nuclear weapons and if you try, you can simply burn all the scum in the nuclear fires, so that there will be no people, no language, no traces.
  29. Ruby
    Ruby 10 July 2017 19: 41
    +12
    I read somewhere that Voronezh was not given the title of Hero precisely because of the Hungarians. Like the leadership of the USSR did not want to complicate relations with Hungary, where they remembered very well this battle. But in fact, Voronezh is more than worthy of the title of Hero city.
  30. vvu-globus
    vvu-globus 10 July 2017 22: 12
    +8
    Thank the granfather for the victory!
  31. Andrea1278
    Andrea1278 10 July 2017 22: 43
    +17
    Conclusion: it is necessary to fight the enemy so that later, in old age, none of your opponents could walk in the veteran march, like the old informers Bendera and the Baltic, who really did not fight, but remained alive only because they became secret agents of the NKVD and helped eliminate the real forest brothers. Yes, it is now forbidden by international laws to give orders and not to be taken prisoner. But after all, while the battle is in progress, no one will check how your enemy died: shooting at you or being with your hands up. Only if you then after the war will not rattle your tongue and bring yourself under the article. Our battalion, for example, in the second Chechen company officially during the whole war did not have a single prisoner ... well, no luck, all the enemies were brave and did not want to surrender))) Officially. ))) And about the real I will not tell you, believe the official documents)))
    1. Karen
      Karen 10 July 2017 23: 56
      +1
      You can understand the Hungarians - all Muscovy stands on their historical lands ...
      It was necessary to attract the Greeks to the bombing of Hungary - they well remember that the Hungarian Orban sold the Tsar Cannon to demolish the walls of Constantinople to the Turks.
    2. beeper
      beeper 12 July 2017 02: 58
      +4
      "liquidated real (completely overgrown, ragged and worn out," merged with the forest background ", or quite so untidy," real "villains whom even the land is tired of wearing - so much more than anyone else, they worry about their own skin on the principle of" die today and I’m somehow tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ... “such and” have a vidmoviv trigger release ”, as soon as it came to personal“ self-destruction ”, although before that everyone“ brother ”in the caches of it regularly shot, trigger for others without fail "pratsyuvav" ... "and that is is the forest brothers "full of MGBists" ???) simply did not have time to "reforg" on time, since the more nimble "real forest brothers" offered their services "to eliminate" before them?
      How do you understand what criteria to evaluate, your value judgment is “really not fought” —that is, the night tati, who survived by the amnesty and grace of the Soviet regime, consider themselves “warriors” —veterans of “freed zmagan”?
  32. NikolajM
    NikolajM 10 July 2017 23: 46
    +2
    In Rudkino, a little less than 20 thousand people were buried.
  33. dark_65
    dark_65 10 July 2017 23: 49
    +7
    our liberalist, governor Gordeev, licked the ass of the minister. talking about how to honor the memory of the fallen Hungarians ... a lot of uncomfortable comments ... the article immediately disappeared.
  34. Uma palata
    Uma palata 11 July 2017 06: 42
    +8
    The Hungarians were one of many EUROPEANS who decided that if it started, then they could atrocity with impunity. In Soviet times, out of the best ideological motives, the topic of mass complicity of Europeans in war crimes of the Nazi troops was very delicately hushed up, but in vain. ALL of Europe, not only Germans, quickly moved to profit and rob us in the war. If we knew this in more detail in the nineties, we would hardly have accepted “universal human values” with such enthusiasm.
    It is extremely useful to study this historical experience so as not to relax again.
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  35. Rashid
    Rashid 11 July 2017 07: 18
    +5
    I read it with tears in my eyes, it is written exactly the same thing as Father told 50 years ago, I was 15 years old.
  36. Meshchersky
    Meshchersky 11 July 2017 08: 00
    +6
    Great is Russia. Enough space for all enemies. For the graves.
  37. losevo36
    losevo36 11 July 2017 08: 17
    +3
    I come from the village of Losevo, Pavlovsky district, as a child, we played on the outskirts of the village and found fox holes with some bones and came to my parents with questions — they said that the deceased in the hospital were buried Magyars — later I found out what they called the Hungarians — how many nobody knew them there, there was no sign, so 100000 of them probably lie in such burials
  38. gla172
    gla172 11 July 2017 08: 54
    +3
    "" "" "" To say that they were hated more than the Germans is to say nothing. "" "" "
    ..... My Grandmother would say the same thing about Estonians .....
    .... and we have German cemeteries here .... but the population does not cause much hatred .... more questions to the authorities .....!
  39. igornet
    igornet 11 July 2017 10: 12
    +1
    A very false statement: "To send to Russia, the 2nd Hungarian army was formed with a total number of about 250 ...". In the history of wars and military art, another calculation is: "By the beginning of 000, the number of Hungarian soldiers in the USSR increased to 1942 thousand people"; and this is the whole group of the Hungarian army. It is necessary to consider more precisely, otherwise there is no trust in all other figures.
  40. Chaos
    Chaos 11 July 2017 11: 37
    +6
    Hungarians came to our land to kill us ALL and killed many. And we organized well-kept cemeteries on our land. Some kind of absurdity. Similarly with the Germans and others. Throw these cemeteries into the asphalt, and it is better to make cattle cemeteries in their place. It seems to me that they do not demolish in order to have a memory. Enemies came, killed.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 11 July 2017 12: 42
      +5
      No matter how it was DIRECTLY OPPOSITE by the intentions of the long-standing enemies of Our country "" aah how noble! aah what respect! "". And what happens in the countries of the former CMEA and the Baltic states !!! As well as talk about equating Stalin with the opponent, and the NKVD with the opposite ... I think these are links of the same chain --- gradually, gradually dying out the great pages of our history! I have repeatedly recalled an icon with images of fascists as continuers of the Romanov dynasty and its location. Probably already got everyone with it !!! Maybe the MONARCHIST (if he is here) will say about this.
  41. Gronsky
    Gronsky 11 July 2017 12: 46
    +8
    A little off topic. My mother, at the age of seven, was in the area of ​​the Elninsky boiler in the 41st year. Yelnya changed hands several times and, according to her stories, the highway leading to the city was covered with a “pie” from bodies crushed into a cake. A layer of Germans, a layer of ours, a layer of Germans, a layer of ours, about half a meter thick. The fight there was terrible. I’m far from eighteen, but every time I hear stories, eyewitnesses, how the so-called Europeans fought and did on our land, my hands begin to shake and I don’t care a lot about, including mercy, our eternal problem. Therefore, I perceive these monuments poorly. I would not have fallen to vandalism, but if I had decided to remove them, I would have provided assistance.
  42. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 11 July 2017 14: 58
    +5
    "Everything is within the framework of a bilateral intergovernmental agreement on the maintenance and care of military graves."
    Which liberalist signed these agreements? ... equated the uninvited beast and the liberators. It was necessary to indicate how the graves of the liberators are formed, and what should be (for edification) at the site of the dump of ghouls. So that through centuries it would be clear to everyone who was buried and who was buried, so as not to stink.
  43. Sivasa
    Sivasa 11 July 2017 16: 41
    +4
    My grandmother told the Germans were well-fed. Only the most delicious was taken - eggs, milk, hens. Potatoes, grain, vegetables on personal farms almost did not touch. The Hungarians swept everything. Literally everything. Even a pot of iron with undercooked potatoes from the stove.
  44. Shuriman
    Shuriman 11 July 2017 18: 19
    +6
    Just near the entrance to such a cemetery, make a memorial plaque listing all the "merits and exploits" of these "heroes". And also lists of settlements that "had the good fortune" to host such guests and the people whom they killed. And it’s somehow strange .- they have a memorial, and to the people whom they killed and tortured to death what?
  45. Navy7981
    Navy7981 11 July 2017 23: 44
    +4
    Yes, all Europoids are oiled in one world. While they feel without punishment, they behave like "civilized" they cut, rape, and then run ahead of their own screech.
    1. metsamies
      metsamies 18 July 2017 14: 38
      +1
      The Finns did not run anywhere in 1939-1940, unlike the current "refugees", but resisted the aggression of the USSR as much as they could. The Finnish People’s Republic was never created.
  46. beeper
    beeper 12 July 2017 01: 33
    +7
    Our old people, who survived the Nazi occupation, recalled the "Magyars and Romanians" as animals, which were much more German beasts - "the German can spare, but these never!"
  47. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 12 July 2017 02: 33
    +2
    Hungarians and Germans were thrashed enough for Europe to learn the lesson for a long time
    1. iouris
      iouris 12 July 2017 14: 31
      +4
      Do not believe in these nonsense. History teaches that it teaches nothing. "Drang nah osten" will never stop.
      1. pol_ovnik
        pol_ovnik 13 July 2017 00: 13
        +1
        If History did not teach, humanity would not crawl out of the trenches round the clock. And so .. at least sometimes respite, .. to create a more deadly and monstrous weapon. = (
    2. pol_ovnik
      pol_ovnik 13 July 2017 00: 15
      +4
      Yes, until now, even if they bark bravorously, they only think about the campaign in words. Thanks to the grandfathers for that lesson !!
    3. pol_ovnik
      pol_ovnik 13 July 2017 00: 16
      0
      Yes, until now, even if they bark bravorously, they only think about the campaign in words. Thanks to the grandfathers for that lesson !!
  48. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 12 July 2017 07: 17
    +2
    And who called them to our land? Pretended to be uninvited, let them “fertilize” our fields as a warning to other “hot heads” in the West!
  49. vandarus
    vandarus 12 July 2017 10: 50
    +5
    “The Hungarians managed to encircle and completely destroy the enemy’s base. According to Hungarian data, about 1000 partisans were killed.” (C) -not in Russian somehow, it is written about itself.
  50. user_internet
    user_internet 12 July 2017 12: 33
    +2
    Hungarians, of course, are not rare people (I can’t call a beast; the beast kills when the hunt eats), but these were killed for pleasure. The memory of the people began to delve into the site, so these clung to every meter of our land, of course, our soldiers allocated each one a plot, but our victory was hard.