Anatoly Serdyukov went on an increase in “Rostvertol”

RIA News With reference to the press service of the aircraft manufacturer Rostvertol, reports that former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov does not remain without work in senior positions. Thus, the material states that Mr. Serdyukov was elected chairman of the company's board of directors.

Thus, it turns out that Anatoly Serdyukov went on increasing. Previously, he served as industrial director in the same Rostvertol.

The report of the members of the Board of Directors on the basis of the meeting results RIA News:

Elect Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov as chairman of the board of directors of Rostvertol PJSC.

Recall that Mr. Serdyukov also serves on the board of directors of the United Aircraft Building Corporation.

In addition to Serdyukov, such managers as Andrei Boginsky, Alexander Mikheyev, Alexander Savenkov, Nikolay Gryaznov and others are among the managers of the helicopter-building company. In particular, Alexander Savenkov previously served as the head of the investigative department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.

In mid-June, the top managers of Rostvertol were awarded regional awards “For merits to the Rostov Region”. Anatoly Serdyukov did not appear in the open list of awardees.

Comments

[The black]

I want to spit on such news .... there is nothing more to add.

[Muvka]

I did not really follow this topic, but was found guilty in the end? If so, can you link to the article? I just constantly hear that his subordinates were guilty. And if so, what is so terrible in this news? Do not throw tomatoes, I just want to find out the truth.

[nik-karata]

pleaded guilty .... amnestied. referring ??? google yourself, dear!

[Muvka]

Negligence. For laying the road? And not by him, but by oversight. I'm certainly not special, but it is unlikely that this has caused serious damage to the state. And again, in fact, he is guilty only of negligence.

[Tatyana]

4000 years ago, the Egyptian pharaoh Kheti III wrote in instructions to his son: "Enrich your nobles, promote, bestow cattle."
And today it’s about the same, only instead of cattle give confidants posts, bonuses - and release from prison

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Muvka

Negligence. For laying the road? And not by him, but by oversight

Yeah. The railway troops just took it, and his son-in-law paved the way for the cottage. And the Air Force planted a tree and planted a lawn. And the museum simply transferred military equipment.

[nik-karata]

Imagine: you are the director of an enterprise. Your EVERYONE is stealing and more or less decent assets from the factory. Essentially you fall as the DIRECTOR, the fattest piece.
What? Say: "I do not know guys!"
The director knows everything!

[svp67]

Quote: Muvka

I just constantly hear that his subordinates were guilty.

Yes. Which he brought there himself and appointed. Does this bother you?

Quote: Muvka

And if so, what is so terrible in this news? Do not throw tomatoes, I just want to find out the truth.

Just had to serve under his command, few pleasant memories. What he did great was to destroy and produce embezzlers.

[Muvka]

No, not alarming. I, too, can cite in my example people who are sympathetic to me, but I cannot be sure that they will not set me up. No one in the world can be sure of 100% of another person. And our president has repeatedly made mistakes with the governors. So what?

[svp67]

Quote: Muvka

And our president has repeatedly made mistakes with the governors. So what?

Yes. Was wrong. But not IN SUCH AMOUNT. From the persons brought by Serdyukov to the management of the Moscow Region, and this is VERY many people, only ONE remained without a criminal case and at the post. Yes, and his PERSONAL attitude towards subordinate servicemen did not evoke respect for me when I didn’t. He just HAMLO and pulled the same ones.

[Muvka]

How much is how much? How many brought and how many guilty. With confirmation only.

[larand]

Quote: Muvka

How much is how much? How many brought and how many guilty. With confirmation only.

Tolyan, are you? Stop making excuses, take better care of helicopters, otherwise again someone will "set you up."

[tomket]

Quote: svp67

He just HAMLO and pulled the same ones.

Well, how can you say that about a respected person?) He’s almost raised him to holy places, they say, a torpedo, a man to whom everyone owes, with a new army, Crimea, and indeed, a peaceful sky))))) He is a sacred animal that no matter how crap around, however, no one can expel him))))

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Muvka

And our president has repeatedly made mistakes with the governors. So what?

Not once wrong, he runs a furniture factory. Our president has created a system that allows theft and, moreover, encourages theft. In this system, there is no place for the personnel department, with a mandatory check in the FSB, everything is decided by personal devotion (or declaration). As the closest example, how the system created by the GDP encourages corruption - these are top managers in state structures. The management of state organizations (hospital, tax post of Russia, etc.) accrue millions of salaries when employees are paid 10 tons. Ponder over at GOSORGANIZANIZATIONS, management steals from its subordinates, everyone knows about it and what? And there are a lot of such examples, even though I’ll break my fingers into the blood about Claudia, you will still remain with your opinion. On this I will not bother. Just add that the GDP is no longer able to change something, it is dependent on the system that it created.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Vladimir 38

Our president has created a system that allows theft and, moreover, encourages theft

This system was created at the end of perestroika and strengthened under Yeltsin. Do not bring the blame on the healthy. When Putin arrived, it bloomed in a riotous color. Could it be more correct to say that the president alone cannot overcome the system?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Orionvit

This system was created at the end of perestroika and strengthened under Yeltsin. Do not bring the blame on the healthy. When Putin arrived, it bloomed in a riotous color. Could it be more correct to say that the president alone cannot overcome the system?

Or maybe it’s more correct to say - does not want to overcome the system? Already 17 years old?

[Orionvit]

On this subject, I wrote below. Remember what happened 17 years ago, and what is now (we will discard Western sanctions). There is a difference?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Orionvit

On this subject, I wrote below. Remember what happened 17 years ago, and what is now (we will discard Western sanctions). There is a difference?

Remember what oil prices were. Here comes the third year of low oil prices and the difference will not be visible soon. This year the reserves will run out and in 18-19 you will understand that there is no difference. And the whole difference in the price of oil was $ 100; everything was more or less, now 50 everything is getting worse. About that and speech. That for 17 years nothing has been done. Posturing, self-promotion ..

[Muvka]

Those. is it all about oil? Good. Let's start small. Agriculture and livestock. What percentage of food imports was in the early 2000s? And most importantly the quality of the product. Do you remember the legs of the bush? I, fortunately, are almost gone. Or gray white bread. Was it all because of low prices? Why isn’t it right now?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Muvka

Those. is it all about oil? Good. Let's start small. Agriculture and livestock. What percentage of food imports was in the early 2000s? And most importantly the quality of the product. Do you remember the legs of the bush? I, fortunately, are almost gone. Or gray white bread. Was it all because of low prices? Why isn’t it right now?

What do our citizens have from this import? Gazprom, Rosneft, are constantly reporting to Putin that they are increasing production by 20, 30%. So what? Is this pension higher than steel ?, Has the rent decreased? I am not interested in the news of how the bourgeois get richer. If you experience patriotic feelings from this, then I do not.

[tomket]

Quote: Muvka

Agriculture and livestock. What percentage of food imports was at the beginning of 2000x? And most importantly the quality of the product. Do you remember the legs of the bush? I, fortunately, are almost gone.

You reason from the perspective of a city dweller. In fact, now the connection between the village and agriculture has been practically destroyed. If before a person in a village was synonymous with an agricultural worker, now in rural areas agricultural companies rule, which, if you draw analogies with shopping centers, leave a scorched field around you.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Muvka

What percentage of food imports was in the early 2000s?

The first thing that came across.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Orionvit

Could it be more correct to say that the president alone cannot overcome the system?

Rather, we can say that we see changes where the GDP considers them necessary, and we do not see where they do not consider it: (economic, educational, ideological policy, personnel).

[Alex Justice]

In Singapore, there was a desire and the system won in 6 months.
Why does Putin not want to use the Singapore method?

[Orionvit]

Because Singapore is not on the list of US enemies.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Orionvit

Because Singapore is not on the list of US enemies.

C'mon all around you enemies, as if they had just appeared. Stalin, that there were friends alone, that for 16 years after the most destructive and bloody war, they flew into space?

[Alf]

Quote: Alex Justice

Why does Putin not want to use the Singapore method?

Because the President of Singapore said that if you want to overcome corruption, plant 2-3 of your closest friends. And Druganov Vova only from chairs to chairs are transplanted.

[SergeBS]

Quote: Vladimir 38

Or maybe it’s more correct to say - does not want to overcome the system? Already 17 years old?

Yeah. "Brothers 90" ended as a class. And now, the deputy guards are flying "to the zone" easily and naturally ...

[Alf]

Quote: SergeBS

Quote: Vladimir 38

Or maybe it’s more correct to say - does not want to overcome the system? Already 17 years old?

And now, the deputy guards are flying "to the zone" easily and naturally ...

And a lot of deputies VILLAGE? And the number of cases is not an indicator.

[Gardamir]

president alone

these were with him then in 2000 and now. these are precisely those of his own whom he does not abandon, even Tolik Rusty there.

[Tishka]

Put a dozen, and not under house arrest in the mansion, but on a felling, send, a couple. shoot three, and all, with confiscation of property, for embezzlement, and there is no system! But now, not 37, and we are not giving up friends! So they steal as much as they can!

[arane]

Quote: Muvka

No, not alarming. I, too, can cite in my example people who are sympathetic to me, but I cannot be sure that they will not set me up. No one in the world can be sure of 100% of another person. And our president has repeatedly made mistakes with the governors. So what?

Nothing. Repeatedly mistaken with the governors? Yes. But he then appoints other governors, and not one and the same.
From the history of Serdyuk everyone is very surprised. I don’t know what kind of graters there are, but one must not respect his people very much so that Serdyukovs and Chubais are in power, higher and higher

[Alexey RA]

Quote: svp67

What he did great was to destroy and produce embezzlers.

So he was appointed for this. After all attempts to "smoothly reform" the army from the inside failed. EMNIP, wrote that the so-called. “Serdyukov’s reform” was developed back in 1996 - but then it was shook up, because it hit the headquarters too much. So they reached ...
In general, often there was already nothing to destroy - much that was being destroyed had already decayed and rested only on the remains of its former authority. The situation with reduced air regiments is indicative - numerous protests over the "destruction of units with a glorious military past" very well concealed the fact that in most of these air regiments pilots and flying equipment were recruited by one squadron. That is, according to the documents - this is a regiment, according to the plans of various actions - a regiment, for supplies and other things - a regiment, and in which case one squadron will fight.

[tomket]

Quote: Alexey RA

that in most of these aviation regiments pilots and flying equipment was recruited by one squadron.

Sorry, but who should send equipment to the shelves? Who should procure? The regiments themselves? Drop off on new planes? Do not carry nonsense. If the army was openly spitting for a decade, then we should be glad that at least one squadron was kept there. You probably now object that the generals supposedly plundered everything, and did not buy anything. So the story of the MiG-35 from the 2014 of the year stretches, not because the generals are stealing, but because the government in the person of Siluanov wrote a bolt for fine-tuning and procurement. You can not steal something that was not going to be allocated.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: tomket

Sorry, but who should send equipment to the shelves? Who should procure? The regiments themselves? Drop off on new planes? Do not carry nonsense.

What does it have to do with it? I wrote about something completely different: that the unwillingness of the Armed Forces to carry out at least some reforms and reduce the structures inherited from the USSR in accordance with the available means led to the fact that the meager budget was spread out in numerous parts. As a result, everyone got a little bit and everyone was equally uncompetent. Instead of a single combat ready unit, there was a cloud of skeletons in the hope that someday mobilization would be announced - and then we would show them ... As a result, both Chechen bayonets had to assemble active bayonets throughout the country. Barely from the millionth army scored 50 thousand.

Quote: tomket

If the army was openly spitting for a decade, then we should be glad that at least one squadron was kept there.

If the army carried out reforms in time, it would have saved more. Because three half-regiments of one squadron in each required more funds than one three-squadron regiment. But they created the appearance of power and a place in the headquarters. The RF Armed Forces in the early 2000s resembled the White Army of the 20th year:

Arriving in the troops, I found 256 bayonets, 28 guns and with them the 2 division headquarters and the 1 corps headquarters, fully equipped!

© Slashchev, telegram to Wrangel - 1920, June

[Nikolay K]

In particular, Alexander Savenkov previously held the post of head of the investigative department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia.

Two loneliness met: the investigator and his person under investigation, now leading him.

[Vladimir 38]

Who would doubt that this is not an irreplaceable person ... We are waiting for news about Vasilyeva's career growth .. There is a fierce struggle against corruption.

[shvn]

And imagine, sir, that your friend was in a similar situation and came to you with a request for help. Well, honestly answer at least to yourself - what do you do?

[KUOLEMA]

I don’t leave mine and do not care about your opinion, the electorate you understand)))

[tomket]

Quote: KUOLEMA

I don’t leave mine and do not care about your opinion, the electorate you understand)))

It will be enough for Lesha, who is Navalny, to play just one card before the election, Serdyukov, and it is not known how 2018 will turn back then. Because Putin has nothing to hide this card with.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: tomket

Quote: KUOLEMA

I don’t leave mine and do not care about your opinion, the electorate you understand)))

It will be enough for Lesha, who is Navalny, to play just one card before the election, Serdyukov, and it is not known how 2018 will turn back then. Because Putin has nothing to hide this card with.

Putin has not only nothing to cover the card with Serdyukov. You think why he does not participate in debates, but answers the prepared questions. By the fact that there would be a debate, I would have to mumble because I did nothing. Take at least his promises, not one has been fulfilled and no one has been held responsible .. Poser and demagogue ..

[vkl.47]

It will begin now ... BAMBALAILO

[NEXUS]

Quote: Black

I want to spit on such news .... there is nothing more to add.

It has long been said that embezzlement, and especially in the military sphere, must be equated for Treason with the Motherland and punished accordingly.

[shvn]

But did his court recognize the embezzler? Or am I missing something?

[NEXUS]

Quote: shvn

But did his court recognize the embezzler? Or am I missing something?

If all the blame was poured on his slut-Vasilyeva and deputies, this does not mean that he is pure as a baby ... as Zheglov-HE THE THIEF used to say! A THIEF SHOULD BE SITTED IN JAIL!

[shvn]

Do not understand . So the court recognized him a thief? or is it just our wishes?

[Yegorchik]

Troll at the call of the heart, or on a salary?

[pussamussa]

It has long been said that embezzlement, and especially in the military sphere, must be equated for Treason with the Motherland and punished accordingly. [/ Quote]
Will they punish themselves?

[barclay]

What a "man"! Great talent!
Apparently, without such leaders ...
So, you see, soon the report will arrive in the Kremlin again.

[vladimirvn]

It's not about talent. The main thing is to be in the first circle.

[barclay]

Quote: vladimirvn

The main thing is to be in the first circle

So for this, you need the same talent. Not one scumbag benefited from this.

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

Are there among the respected commentators active officers of the Russian Army? I mean those who served at least five years before Serdyukov, during his appointment and after? What am I asking this question for? I just talked with many officers who found him and opinions on his figure are different. And I want to note these officers were not close to the feeder. Doctors, signalmen, air defense specialists. Therefore, I do not share all your angry comments. With all due respect to all active users.

[Alexey RA]

At VIF2-NE, during the time of Serdyukov’s reforms, there was a rather interesting demarcation: the staff officers spat on the reforms further than they saw. Field - on the contrary supported.
Pomnitsa, one of the staff was indignant that his position in the office had been reduced and now he, the major, was being sent to a vacant place in the battalion. To a polite question about endure hardships and hardships followed by an angry rebukeWhat am I to you, boy? why didn’t they give me a similar position in the headquarters?"

[RASKAT]

And nothing will fall on his head at the factory. That's a lucky pancake.

[AUL]

It does not sink! Wait a minute, he’ll change DAMA!

[NEXUS]

This muskrat should be planted for a long time, and not raised! Ugh, an abomination.

[electrooleg]

It is advisable to count on the frontal place. So that others would not be accustomed. To understand that a high post is not an opportunity, but a responsibility.

[shvn]

Sir, are you a judge? ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: shvn

Sir, are you a judge? ...

Dear, are we the most fair court in the world? Or maybe you think that Vasilyeva stole everything? She has the brains of a canary. And there is no need to build a righteous man out of himself, he is a BOP who harmed the state and its defenses.

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

Do you know Vasilyeva that you are making such conclusions? I know a person who is familiar with her and believe me, she has enough brains. Do not make false conclusions that I was going to protect someone, no. They are guilty and I admit it. Just expressing my opinion.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

Do you know Vasilyeva that you are making such conclusions? I know a person who is familiar with her and believe me, she has enough brains.

Well, yes .... so fuck "justice", also wrote a song about slippers, talent!

[shvn]

As I understand it, Serdyukov also has a little mind. And, probably, he didn’t steal. It’s just a gasket or a lightning rod, actually ...

[Young_Communist]

Quote: shvn

As I understand it, Serdyukov also has a little mind. And, probably, he didn’t steal.

Why is there one comment in Olgino now? Is there enough for a "doshirak", Serdyukovets?

[Yegorchik]

So he is in this thread already from two accs Serdyukov defends, so that normally raises.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: shvn

As I understand it, Serdyukov also has a little mind.

You live in a land of illusions. Everyone who has the power of the mind is much more than all other citizens who hawk all this garbage, such as straight lines.
But is Sechin a lesser thief than perdukoffff? Or is Miller also a lamb? And under all other circumstances, is Nedimon not a thief? Maybe it was not he who invented the schemes of "charitable foundations" under a dog?
All this garbage does not even smile ... Someone will at least say who Timchenko is and why? Why Kovalchuk and Rotenbergs? And how do they compare with the teacher from the Urals?
planting root crops, grow onions ... And the head only to eat into it?

[Overlock]

faced with our court, everything is for sale is bought. Question Price

[Spartanez300]

In our country, we have not only been listed as the main thief in the Armed Forces, but now in leadership positions and even with promotions. It remains for him to assign the hero of Russia.

[BecmepH]

So there is already

[Roman 11]

it turns out that Anatoly Serdyukov went up.
What to say?

An irreplaceable strategist, so he will become the king of all the earth - corruption is a terrible force

[Orionvit]

In addition to corruption scandals, I know one thing: after Serdyukov, the Russian army was at a completely different level than, for example, in the middle of the “zero”, which was shown in particular by the Crimean Spring. True, all laurels went to Shoigu, who (with all due respect to him), physically for a year could not reorganize the army from the "devastation" that is attributed to Serdyukov. It just seems to me that something is wrong.

[Blackmokona]

Of course, during the Crimean spring, the army fought actively, but they took a stop without a fight.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: BlackMokona

Of course, during the Crimean spring, the army fought actively, but they took a stop without a fight.

During the Crimean campaign, at least the army could be distinguished from the militia or from the SA from the time of Afghanistan (on 08.08.08 it was quite difficult to do).
The army did not leave dozens of faulty cars on the sidelines. And she was able to covertly concentrate her forces, to properly organize marches and an operational blockade of all the significant garrisons of the Armed Forces.
The army was able to transfer more than a dozen helicopters to Sevastopol. And I was able to ensure their trouble-free operation. Despite intensive use (helicopters showed the flag and pressed on the nerves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in all parts of the Crimea - from the isthmus and Yevpatoriya to Sevastopol and Kerch). And despite all the maneuvers of the pilots that went beyond what was permitted in peacetime (flights to PMV - about 3-5 meters, a roundabout, EMNIP, over the Suzdal, simulated attacks, landing on hovering in the dark).

[Blackmokona]

During the Crimean campaign, at least the army could be distinguished from the militia or from the SA from the time of Afghanistan (on 08.08.08 it was quite difficult to do).

So only elite units were used. After all, the size of the operation compared to the size of the aircraft was negligible.

The army did not leave dozens of faulty cars on the sidelines. And she was able to covertly concentrate her forces, to properly organize marches and an operational blockade of all the significant garrisons of the Armed Forces.

It is easy to concentrate forces when the forces are already in the territory of the operation.

The army was able to transfer more than a dozen helicopters to Sevastopol.

Transfer more than 10 helicopters, less than 1% of the list of helicopters in the army. Unbelievable! More than ten combat-ready helicopters found.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: BlackMokona

So only elite units were used. After all, the size of the operation compared to the size of the aircraft was negligible.

Well, here's the SPN from the time of the war 08.08.08. Judging by the guard, Lieutenant Colonel Lebed on the main armored personnel carrier is the 45th regiment.

Quote: BlackMokona

It is easy to concentrate forces when the forces are already in the territory of the operation.

On the territory of the operation was 810 RPRMP. It is easy to distinguish by the characteristic BTR-80 with air intakes.
All the rest in the Crimea had to be transferred. These in Crimea before the well-known events were definitely not:

Quote: BlackMokona

Transfer more than 10 helicopters, less than 1% of the list of helicopters in the army. Unbelievable! More than ten combat-ready helicopters found.

And don’t talk. For 6 years before this, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation until the end of the war could not transfer a single helicopter to South Ossetia. So they flew across the ridge.

[Roman 11]

Quote: Alexey RA

The army was able to transfer more than a dozen helicopters to Sevastopol. And I was able to ensure their trouble-free operation.

Those. without a heartache we can’t transport helicopters to the Crimea, nor put an army in one uniform? I will say more, Shoigu is also not a military expert .... but in the scandals, neither corruption, nor army. What they order him, he does everything, a kind of Bulganin, Voroshilov, Ustinov ....

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Novel 11

Those. without a heartache we can’t transport helicopters to the Crimea, nor put an army in one uniform?

Before coming furniture maker, the army had already increased the budget. So what?
But nothing - the Military-Industrial Complex has successfully mastered funds, regularly increasing product prices and supplying the frank army secondary productposing as new and unparalleled in the world of development. However, a tactical UAV with a lowercase TV camera, located on several KAMAZ trucks, really had no analogues.
I’ll tell you more - the army still receives equipment under “furniture” contracts. And in Syria, the army is fighting with "furniture" weapons.

Quote: Novel 11

I will say more, Shoigu is also not a military expert .... but in the scandals, neither corruption, nor army.

This is while he is on duty. As soon as they remove him, we immediately find out how a bad boyar deceived the sovereign.
However, there were already questions for Shoigu, for example, on the plans for the purchase of amphibious aircraft and the construction of hydroaerodromes for them in freezing waters.

[Yuri Guliy]

As for helicopters, it’s very true that when they flew over Sevastopol over my head, the last doubts about the “non-participation and self-elimination of Russia” quickly disappeared.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: BlackMokona

Of course, during the Crimean spring, the army fought actively, but they took a stop without a fight.

Stop trying to whitewash Serdyukov. Here they say a patriot, did everything, Shoigu came to the ready. Serdyukov would continue to steal, if the daughter of Zubkov did not complain to dad ..

[Baloo]

Qatar wants to buy an impressive stake in Rosvertol?

[Nikolay K]

Qatar is not Qatar, and negotiations with certain Middle Eastern investors are already underway.

[Gardamir]

negotiations with certain Middle Eastern investors are already underway.

Surely not everything has been sold in Russia?

[Zibelew]

The headline is a joke. Sorry, life. This is how power itself destroys the remnants of self-confidence.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Zibelew

The headline is a joke. Sorry, life. This is how power itself destroys the remnants of self-confidence.

The worst thing is that they spat on the confidence of the people .. Mock insolent.

[creak]

Quote: Vladimir 38

The worst thing is that they spat on the confidence of the people .. Mock insolent.

And with his own hands, the authorities add supporters and arguments to Navalny - all as the chief of Abwera Canaris said: "There is no rejection, there are personnel" ...
With such personnel, no machinations of the CIA and the State Department are needed, we will do everything ourselves in the best possible way ..

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: ranger

And with their own hands, the authorities add supporters and arguments to Navalny - just like Chef Abwehr Canaris: “There is no rejection, there are frames” ... With such frames, no machinations of the CIA and the State Department are needed, we’ll do everything ourselves ....

An adequate person, a proponent of bulk will not. For it is the same thing as being a supporter of Yeltsin. But in general, yes, the authorities do not worry so much about their well-being) that they spat on the opinion of the people.

[creak]

Quote: Vladimir 38

An adequate person, a proponent of bulk will not. For it is the same thing as being a supporter of Yeltsin.

I don’t know about you, but I perfectly remember the rallies of thousands in support of Yeltsin, which they literally brought to power in their hands - but the same enthusiastic former admirers of their idol with foam at the mouth later demanded “Yeltsin’s gang in court” ... I happened to see these events with my own eyes and inadequate among them there was no more than now .... It's just our old Russian custom - to create an idol for ourselves, and then trample it and its memory ... For the company, you can recall the Soviet leaders - exorbitant praise and flattery in life and groaning after death .... Nothing new - - as the poet said: "They will lift him high, then they will throw him into the abyss without shame ..."
The problem is that as once the CPSU, and now the authorities, unfortunately, have not learned to listen and hear ordinary people, there will not be enough "direct line" for everyone ....

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: ranger

. It’s just our old Russian custom - to create an idol for ourselves, and then trample it and its memory ..

We are NOT creating an idol, but the media. They did a slave from Putin out of galleys, but something the slave was in no hurry to drop the chains .. He thinks about Russia .. And our people are trusting, and they use him. They get a penny and then give half for housing and communal services, but they support Putin .. Absurdity.

Quote: ranger

As once the CPSU, and now the authorities, unfortunately, have not learned to hear people and talk with people in a language they understand ...

Yes, it is not necessary to speak the talks of the authorities, but to do things. The language now, in my opinion, is just understandable .. That’s Putin’s rating. Everyone is talking to anyone, and what good has been done for people? NOTHING. It’s getting worse. There is no money, but you hold on ..

[Sewer krainiy]

This is Medvedev in the Crimea !!!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: ranger

I don’t know about you, but I remember very well the rallies of thousands in support of Yeltsin, which they literally brought to power in their hands - but the same enthusiastic former admirers of their idol with foam at the mouth later demanded “Yeltsin’s gang in court” ...

Thousands. And even millions.

And after all, they showed us the true face of Alcoholics - footage of his performances during a trip to the United States. So, they didn’t believe it - they fervently beat themselves with their heels in the chest, proving. it’s that the damned KGB officers slowed down the film, that EBN was just tired after the flight, that he was very worried, etc., etc.
Only 5 years have passed - and already in 1994 everyone spat on Shannon and were sure that the Alcohol addict had just kicked into the trash on the plane.

[Orionvit]

I can’t understand one thing. All amicably criticize the authorities and Putin in particular (whose decrees are openly ignored). If the Russian government continues to ruin the country, remember the state about 15 years ago, was it really better then?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Orionvit

I can’t understand one thing. All amicably criticize the authorities and Putin in particular (whose decrees are openly ignored). If the Russian government continues to ruin the country, remember the state about 15 years ago, was it really better then?

So the fact of the matter is that we very quickly go to the 90s. Don't you notice? Why are those who ignore his decrees not liable?

[Roman 11]

Quote: Zibelew

so power itself destroys the remnants of self-confidence.

And all the same we will choose ... for there is no one

[Karabin]

Quote: Novel 11

for there is none

Hedgehogs pricked and cried, but still continued ...

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Novel 11

And all the same we will choose ... for there is no one

Why, one should vote for the SJ. Although from the same series, but still different)

[Roman 11]

Quote: Vladimir 38

for zyu need

Do you miss the gulags and collective farms?

It would be better to continue to draw out the earth benevolently westward ... we were not Papuans.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Novel 11

Do you miss the gulags and collective farms?

Oh my God, what kind of gulags and collective farms under grandfather Zyu? Enough to repeat the howls of Akhedzhakova from the time of the White House execution and EBN elections - they say, get up people русские democratic, otherwise evil commies will come, they will take away and share everything.
The present communists have left only the name from the former. But in essence, these are the Mensheviks or the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries, in whom "all the steam goes into a hoot." They are quite comfortable with the current system of government. they have their own niche of eternal opposition and sufferers for the common people - and they are unlikely to change it to lie under an old cart and build narrow gauge railways.

[vch]

What is it ?? Who is pushing this ghoul. In the troops who were "lucky" to meet him, so far, on his behalf alone, the mothers are alone !!

[Roman 11]

Quote: vch

What is it ?? Who is pushing this ghoul.

Mafia is immortal

[andr327]

It is simply surprising that there are large specialists on the board of directors of Rostvertol PJSC - both the furniture maker and the investigator from the Ministry of Internal Affairs ....
helicopters coming soon.

[Romanenko]

Here is the unsinkable ... When will the council be found on him

[g1v2]

I love the news about Tolik Taburetkin. So many torn farts in the sofa "patriots" on the site are little cause. Please wait a little saliva to choke - I run to the store for popcorn. so you don’t miss all the fun. Tolik, burn!

[viktor.]

Anatoly Serdyukov was not on the open list of awards. a favor for the people !!!! he rewarded himself and his loved ones to the fullest he does not have enough for a full term with confiscation

[Brigadier]

New edition of the old song in the current reality:
All VIP thieves everywhere we have a road! We always honor all VIP thieves!

[observant guy]

Well, shah to everyone !!!!! Che do not see that a decent person took his rightful place !!!! Envious !!!

[Dezinto]

from this career growth! And you gentlemen, engineers chew on your protected dissertations .... and take refuge at night with diplomas.

I directly imagined how he agreed in the evening in the black car at the entrance to this post.
“Don’t let Antokha shine too much, rest a bit, they’ll appoint you soon, it’s not the job.”

Acting did not go anywhere, they mimicked.

[niece]

Who is pushing him into tasty posts.

[shvn]

Googled whose son-in-law ...

[Alex66]

The main weakness of our government is personnel policy. But Stalin understood this very well and took this seriously.

[Galleon]

It's getting scary for our helicopters. calming thoughts for complacency, such as "c'mon, don’t twitch, he doesn’t understand a damn thing in helicopters, how can he destroy them?" they are met with counterarguments: "this tramp in boots didn’t march for a day, but how much he managed to spoil, that they still disentangle", "the stupid and the thief do not need knowledge how to steal and break."
My old mother told a story with a friend of hers how a thief got into that uninhabited village house (in the summer at the dacha) and dismantled and broke the stove to sell bricks and gully as it should. When this goal was caught, he told the old woman only: "you had a good stove - it was a pity to break." Here I have a stable association of Serdyukov with that scum biped.

[lexx2038]

Well, look and the Minister of Defense will come.

[Young_Communist]

Urgent need to write a letter to Putin! He does not know that the boyars secretly planted an order for Serdyukov in his pile of documents for signing!

[shvn]

Why fright Putin will sign these papers? This is the level of "friends" or "godfathers".

[ochakow703]

Give him a pickaxe, but send it to Magadan, together with a slut Vasilyeva. Ehhhh, a mess.

[Roman 11]

There are themes of unity in Russia .... Tolyan

Everything is united on corruption, and the bear listens and eats - well, you stay there

[cheburator]

The sad news!

[mark_rod]

Without curating GDP, he would have been sitting in the country and growing radishes ....

[Mountain shooter]

Serdyukov was put on the MO to defeat the general mafia. Well, a little carried away, but they did ... Shoigu did not fight with the team of generals, but built everything in a clean field ... And he quickly built everything.

[Voyager]

At least one sensible comment

[Gardamir]

smash the general mafia

[yehat]

I do not understand why the state considers it possible to continue to hire people who "have lost confidence" in the civil service and leadership positions. I am sure that 95% of citizens, of those who can understand what Serdyukov did, will say that this is impossible.

[The splinter]

This once again suggests that all the talk of GDP on the fight against corruption remains empty talk.

[pussamussa]

What is common between a helicopter and a stool? Maybe someone knows?

[Gardamir]

And there, and there you can sit well!

[pussamussa]

Quote: Gardamir

And there, and there you can sit well!

And best of all on the bunks.

[gukoyan]

It is only here in Russia that the thieving officials caught red-handed can make an excellent career ...
And if you steal a loaf of bread, all mortal sins will be hanged.

[anjey]

lucky this character that he was not born during the time of Peter1 and Stalin ....

[tomket]

Quote: anjey

lucky for this character that he was not born in the time of Peter1

In the time of Peter the Great he would have been flogged with rods, and his teeth would be torn apart, and sovereign personally. Well, under Stalin, he would most likely be convicted of the fact that he sympathizes with Trotsky, or some kind of spy, it’s not important, whose spy, his main activity would be stopped. Well, then liberalists of all stripes would break their hands and howl what red Napoleon had been ruined, and an industrialist on a cosmic scale.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: tomket

Well, under Stalin, he would most likely be convicted of the fact that he sympathizes with Trotsky, or some kind of spy, it’s not important, whose spy, his main activity would be stopped. Well, then liberalists of all stripes would break their hands and howl what red Napoleon had been ruined, and an industrialist on a cosmic scale.

Or, after a search in the country house, they would have transferred somewhere downgrade - here it’s how the card will fall.

[Overlock]

Quote: Vladimir 38

An adequate person, a proponent of bulk will not. For it is the same thing as being a supporter of Yeltsin. But in general, yes, the authorities do not worry so much about their well-being) that they spat on the opinion of the people ..

and how then is power different from Navalny?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Overlock

Quote: Vladimir 38

An adequate person, a proponent of bulk will not. For it is the same thing as being a supporter of Yeltsin. But in general, yes, the authorities do not worry so much about their well-being) that they spat on the opinion of the people ..

and how then is power different from Navalny?

Only the fact that the bulk interests of the American bourgeois defends, and Putin Russian.

[Overlock]

but what is better for Russia? Selling American or selling Russian?

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Overlock

but what is better for Russia? Selling American or selling Russian?

And do not choose not one of those not of these. Both are bad. For Russia, Stalin is not enough now.

[Overlock]

so am I about the same

[Overlock]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

I know a person who is familiar with her and believe me, she has enough brains.

I agree. To steal like that, you need brains. And another roof

[Vadim Ganeev]

There is no other gang. Because I can’t understand how a person who was involved in embezzlement can be appointed to such posts.

[Normal ok]

To the big ship, - a great voyage ((

[Vadim Ganeev]

Scribe what's going on in the country ...

[Roman 11]

Quote: Vadim Ganeev

Scribe what's going on in the country ..

Well, you probably didn’t find the 90s .... After them, the craving for life fights well. Of course, it’s not yet evening, we’ll see who will succeed, but now it’s clear that the current situation will not last long - oil prices will fall, gas will be pumped out quickly ..... and they haven’t been involved in the economy. Now, when there will be nothing to pay pensions, it will be a circus, no worse than in the 90s. But the elite and, apparently, the people are not very worried .... there was something similar in the early 80s, I clearly remember those years of carelessness.

[Bronevick]

How much can you rave about Russia?

[trophy]

Well, he was not assigned there! It was necessary to the United Shipbuilding Corporation. Imagine what a magnificent advertising poster would have turned out: a stool against the background of a boat and the inscription "It does not sink!". Symbolically, Mamkin’s mink.

[Vladimir 38]

Quote: Trofim

Well, he was not assigned there! It was necessary to the United Shipbuilding Corporation. Imagine what a magnificent advertising poster would have turned out: a stool against the background of a boat and the inscription "It does not sink!". Symbolically, Mamkin’s mink.

Hahah, you probably work as a marketer)) Cool!

[Semenov]

He is Zubkov’s son-in-law, who will put him in prison? Well, the fact that the daughter of the former deputy prime minister wanted to change for Vasilyev was strictly indicated. Now he has taken the right position - palace coups, they are like that.

[Evil 55]

A place for Serdyukov, an order, a medal for Serdyukov, a director’s chair for Serdyukov ... when will the bullet be cast for Serdyukov ..

[Sewer krainiy]

Quote: Muvka

No, not alarming. I, too, can cite in my example people who are sympathetic to me, but I cannot be sure that they will not set me up. No one in the world can be sure of 100% of another person. And our president has repeatedly made mistakes with the governors. So what?

So, we won’t go to intelligence together? Eh-ma, you need to serve ...

[Sewer krainiy]

Quote: Orionvit

I can’t understand one thing. All amicably criticize the authorities and Putin in particular (whose decrees are openly ignored). If the Russian government continues to ruin the country, remember the state about 15 years ago, was it really better then?

And remember the years 35-40, was it really worse then ... Then Humpbacked, Yeltsin ... And why the decrees are ignored, is he a kid ...

[Gardamir]

Well, why are you so excited? The main Crimea is ours. Well, they will share with Qatar and Japan, so what. But Tolya was corrected and will not change his wife again.
And Zhenechka Vasilyeva returned all the money. Look how she sang, danced, drew and stishat folded, could such a person be to blame?

[Alex Justice]

In Australia, he would have been behind bars and would have paid everything.

[Evgeny Strygin]

and then you can be the president! so what?

[razved]

And, most importantly, they have nothing to do with helicopter engineering. This is even if you do not take into account specific personalities.

[afrikanez]

It will be a shame if this "former" is going to buy Mistral again! Or something cooler. for the needs of the army (he knows better from the top of his post)

[pafegosoff]

Are there specialists in the manuals of anything in the Russian Federation? Or is it Chubais?
Many will recall Lavrenty Pavlovich and the atomic project. However, what he created is Skolkovo million. Therefore, the effectiveness of Chubais is equal to 0,00001% of the effectiveness of Beria. But regarding the killing of the population, the effectiveness of Chubais from 1991 to 2000 ... Zhukov took several wagons from Germany, for which Ruslanova and her husband were convicted, and G.K. went to Odessa. Serdyukov ... "What did he do that?" says the Investigative Committee. - "Now if he had taken the iPhone from a passerby ...".

[viltor]

Such actions by the country's leadership do not add credibility to either Putin or Shoigu. A lot of officers and generals who most directly faced with criminal orders and orders of Serdyukov, aimed at embezzlement of financial resources from the state budget, are convinced of the guilt of Serdyukov. These people are well aware of the guilt and role in the robbery of the army of the former Moscow Region and are extremely surprised by the "resurrection" of Serdyukov in the rank of leader in the civil service. This person, according to the officers, should be forever, at least, removed from the civil service, no matter in what area this activity takes place. Similar appointments speak only of one thing - there is no serious fight against corruption in the country, there are selective actions that are aimed at creating the illusion of citizens that the Kremlin is counteracting corruption. In fact, the highest political elite in Russia is divided into clans. It is possible to steal some clans, but not others - that’s the whole ideology of the fight against corruption today.

[tomket]

Quote: g1v2

I love the news about Tolik Taburetkin. So many torn farts in the sofa "patriots" on the site are little cause. Please wait a little saliva to choke - I run to the store for popcorn. so you don’t miss all the fun. Tolik, burn!

We have not limited the number of scum Tolik, it turns out there are sympathizers ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

Dear citizens of Russia, here you tell me - did YOU get all this?
You can criticize Belarus as much as you like, but frank thieves are not returned to our posts.
I’m not trying to compare or contrast someone with someone, but this is the purpose .. It’s a disgrace ....
I understand that if he were assigned to a duty officer on duty for a bucket and would be shown on the news .. And then ...
Sad, gentlemen, officers. Yearning.....

[SergeBS]

Quote: Vladimir 38

Not only does Putin have nothing to cover his card with Serdyukov.

Yes. The “Paradise Group”, which was seated in the General Staff from the USSR, was “lowered a little.” "Glavvor" Serdyukov ruined all the happiness of the public with his "striped pants." Like, “Now it’s only I who steal, not you...” Abydna, right?

[ando_bor]

Serdyukov is a good specialist in financial flows, he put things in order with the army’s money, he took the money away from the generals on a clean basis, the squealing is still there, but it is no longer the generals who are squealing, but State Department mercenaries - the partners really don’t like the growth of the power of the Russian army. With a budget ten times smaller, the Russian army, thanks to the reforms carried out by Serdyukov, is successfully resisting the American army.

[LeonidL]

A controversial statement... what he did with lumping aviation into one heap, with the acquisition of unnecessary Mistrals, with destroyed garrisons, with the transformation of divisions into brigades does not fit into your theory.

[Tatyana]

In civilian life, Serdyukov, because of what he did with the real estate of the RF Armed Forces, was called not “Taburetkin”, but the Minister of Defense “Buy and sell!”
In particular, Sedyukov curtailed military hospitals and curtailed the training of military doctors. In St. Petersburg, he was going to put out into the open field out of all the buildings in the city center the famous Military Medical Academy of Russia along with its hospitals. This is where Serdyukov finally got burned.
The RF Armed Forces without medical care are disposable Armed Forces of the country!

[LeonidL]

It will collapse like the army! We have experience. I wonder if he will pull Vasiliev and other ladies along with him?

[Ace Tambourine]

Feldfurniture deserves only one promotion - Kol and Rack...

[ss29]

A thief should sit in jail. but in general we live in the era of neo-feudalism and are eating what we deserved in the 90s. in the Duma there are singers and athletes, positions are given out for beautiful eyes (Serdyukov probably ruled an aircraft factory once in Rosvertol), honorary exiles like Luzhkov’s and an honorary seat in mansions (Vasiliev, Ulyukaev).