Xinhua: Changzheng-5 media launch failed

July 2 2017 65

The launch of the most powerful at this time Chinese carrier rocket Changzheng-5 (The Great March-5) was unsuccessful today, reports RIA News message agency "Xinhua."

Earlier, representatives of the Wenchang cosmodrome in Hainan Province reported favorable weather for a rocket launch. A few hours ago, there were reports in the media about the successful launch of the Changzheng-5 launch vehicle with the Shijian-18 telecommunications satellite.

According to the agency, “problems appeared soon after launch”. About what exactly the problem in question, is not specified. There are no official comments yet.

This is the second launch for Changzheng-5 heavy launch vehicles.

The previous (first of six) Shijian telecommunications satellite was launched into orbit in mid-April with the help of the carrier Changzheng-3B.

The grouping of these satellites is intended to provide high-speed Internet for transport, including on airplanes and trains.

"Changzheng-5" is a Chinese booster of a new generation. Its height is 56,97 m, the diameter of the main stage is 5 m. It is able to put 25 tons of cargo into low near-earth orbit.

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210ox

+14

2 July 2017 17: 03

Well, not only do we have jambs. I'm not gloating, but the Chinese are clearly going into space by leaps and bounds. The truth is, they started on our groundwork.
1. Vladimir 38
  
  +11
  
  2 July 2017 17: 06
  
  Yes, although it’s not right to rejoice, but it becomes calmer somehow ..)
  1. Thrall
    
    +11
    
    2 July 2017 17: 11
    
    All because a Chinese-made rocket
    And the names need to be chosen more modestly. For example, "Average Walk - 0,5" ...
    1. 210ox
      
      +7
      
      2 July 2017 17: 26
      
      I remembered a movie with Louis de Funes .. A great walk
      .
      Quote: Thrall
      All because a Chinese-made rocket
      And the names need to be chosen more modestly. For example, "Average Walk - 0,5" ...
    2. Semen Semyonitch
      
      +7
      
      2 July 2017 17: 43
      
      Quote: Thrall
      "Average walk - 0,5"
      
      The second 0,5 ruined everything
    3. vasilev
      
      +1
      
      2 July 2017 19: 11
      
      Quote: Thrall
      And the names need to be chosen more modestly.
      
      I agree with this, you don’t have to give too loud names. For example, we had a rocket with the loud name Tsar Rocket, which never flew into space. Yes and besides space, the Tsar Bomb that never bombed anyone, the Tsar Tank that covered itself with trials that never fired the Tsar Cannon and did not ring the Tsar Bell.
      1. antivirus
        
        +2
        
        2 July 2017 20: 38
        
        favorite smartphones and data centers. THOUGHT and WILL - above all.
        Few cities with the name of the QUEEN and KELDYSH, MAN.
        and modestly agitate "be patient, let’s fly into space and then another, brighter life will begin"
        
        Glory to the Soviet people !!, which
        funded and built the space industry !!!
      2. Catherine II
        
        +4
        
        2 July 2017 20: 54
        
        Quote: vasilev
        never fired the Tsar Cannon
        
        traces of gunpowder indicate the opposite ...
    4. meGrail
      
      0
      
      4 July 2017 00: 16
      
      So even our guarantor in the parade was on a Chinese-made car, did not fail
      And Changzheng-5, by the way, is the second in terms of carrying capacity among flying missiles, after the American one.
  2. Normal ok
    
    +4
    
    2 July 2017 20: 32
    
    Quote: Vladimir 38
    Yes, although it’s not right to rejoice, but it becomes calmer somehow ..)
    
    Nothing pleases more than the failures of the Allies
    1. Vladimir 38
      
      0
      
      2 July 2017 20: 43
      
      Quote: Normal ok
      Nothing pleases more than the failures of the Allies
      
      Yes sir!)))))))))))))
2. siberalt
  
  +1
  
  2 July 2017 17: 19
  
  Yeah This trip is not so great.
3. solovald
  
  +2
  
  3 July 2017 05: 14
  
  What is the difference on whose backlog, the main thing is that the PRC is progressing very rapidly - both in space and in electronics ... and in the economy, etc. Ballet, fortunately, is still behind us ...
VadimSt

+10

2 July 2017 17: 05

The great campaign did not take place due to the lack of a designer on the Feng Neck - they forgot to buy from the Independent Warranty on the acquired documentation!
1. Settlement Oparyshev
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2017 18: 33
  
  Yes, Ukrainian designers will be caught one at a time and forced to explain the cause of the explosion in Chinese.
Mountain shooter

+1

2 July 2017 17: 07

Chinese means great! Different from others
1. Pirogov
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2017 17: 49
  
  Quote: Mountain Shooter
  Chinese means great! Different from others
  
  Too bad, the Chinese are learning too fast.
  1. bald
    
    +3
    
    2 July 2017 20: 03
    
    This is the point - they do not chew snot, correcting errors.
Zibelew

+3

2 July 2017 17: 08

Yes, it is all assembled from Chinese components
1. san4es
  
  +7
  
  2 July 2017 17: 25
  Quote: Zibelew
  Yes, it is all assembled from Chinese components
  
  ... But it wasn’t a matter of a woman
  1. bouncyhunter
    
    +3
    
    2 July 2017 17: 46
    
    Quote: san4es
    But it wasn’t about the woman
    
    The woodpecker was sitting in the cockpit.
    1. san4es
      
      +6
      
      2 July 2017 18: 18
      
      It wasn’t about a woman
      Xinhua was sitting in the cabin
      1. cniza
        
        +7
        
        2 July 2017 18: 21
        
        “Kiss is hot,” everyone has setbacks, only he is not mistaken. who does nothing.
        
        san4es
        
        +6
        
        2 July 2017 18: 29
        
        ... Yes, I'm not gloating ... just not sad
        ... And so depresnyakov on the site, at least chew booty
        
        cniza
        
        +1
        
        2 July 2017 18: 36
        
        So I do not gloat, but also fight with all-ensailors.
        
        Mestny
        
        +3
        
        2 July 2017 18: 49
        
        With which? Chinese?
        So here only our cry about Russia. But not a word about others. "There are mistakes," "leaps and bounds."
        
        cniza
        
        +2
        
        2 July 2017 18: 52
        
        Quote: Mestny
        With which? Chinese?
        
        With any.
        
        Mestny
        
        0
        
        2 July 2017 20: 35
        
        I support, I shake a hand and other.
        
        cniza
        
        0
        
        2 July 2017 20: 44
        
        Quote: Mestny
        I support, I shake a hand and other.
        
        And all the best to you.
        
        samoletil18
        
        +2
        
        2 July 2017 19: 28
        
        Quote: cniza
        So I do not gloat, but also fight with all-ensailors.
        
        Something rocket looks a lot like the Russian
        
        cniza
        
        0
        
        2 July 2017 20: 43
        
        There is such a thing, and the Chinese do not philosophize too much.
Stabilization

0

2 July 2017 17: 13

You can wish good luck in the future ...
Naughty

+2

2 July 2017 17: 17

Quote: 210ox
Well, not only do we have jambs. I'm not gloating, but the Chinese are clearly going into space by leaps and bounds. The truth is, they started on our groundwork.

They fly on it and Ukraine periodically sells them space technologies. And they give them out for their know-how.
The Chinese are unable to independently come up with anything except gunpowder))) This is a fact Copy and shamelessly Yes! But only everything that is copied is all CHINESE !!!! By reliability
Regarding embarrassment with the launch of a rocket. So this is space! Everything happens periodically. Who throws rockets there
1. Vpk72
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2017 19: 19
  
  Yes, they did not invent any gunpowder
Dezinto

+2

2 July 2017 17: 17

Someone responsible will be shot with smaller missiles
donavi49

+10

2 July 2017 17: 18

They write that in the second stage, abnormal deviations in the work are therefore a failure. On the video, the start seems to be normal.
1. alfa19638
  
  +7
  
  2 July 2017 17: 31
  
  shooting is excellent, camera placement is great!
2. Orionvit
  
  +1
  
  2 July 2017 22: 56
  
  Quote: donavi49
  abnormal deviations in work
  
  Wow. And I thought it was just a malfunction.
Naughty

+6

2 July 2017 17: 20

Quote: Zibelew
Yes, it is all assembled from Chinese components

That's just not how smart and hardworking the Chinese can’t get the blueprints of a nuclear submarine or where)))) And nobody offers modern boats to them To copy))) Ukraine is not to help them on this issue either This is not space
1. Vita vko
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2017 17: 46
  
  Quote: Vzdrincher
  That's just
  
  In addition to China and Russia, no country will consciously and consistently resist the efforts of the US and the EU to destabilize the world order and create “terrorist-controlled chaos”. Therefore, the Russian and Chinese economies must be integrated, and the army in terms of its combat and technological capabilities is on the same level.
  1. Orionvit
    
    +3
    
    2 July 2017 22: 59
    
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Therefore, the Russian and Chinese economies must be integrated
    
    Friends, this is certainly good, only the Chinese are always on their minds. With such allies, the ear must be kept open, as if a knife had not been thrust into the back.
2. 73bor
  
  0
  
  2 July 2017 18: 03
  
  In the 70s, like the Chinese, the boat died, and there all the designers on the nuclear submarines can’t!
Mountain shooter

+1

2 July 2017 17: 21

Also, with a hammer, load cells drove upside down?
Odysseus

+1

2 July 2017 17: 22

It’s a pity. The Chinese lunar program can go to the right in terms of time. Let's hope to quickly solve the problem with the second stage.
polev66

0

2 July 2017 17: 25

poor Chinese astronauts ... how will they burn the very place when they start to space launch on their rockets
1. Mestny
  
  +3
  
  2 July 2017 20: 37
  
  Nothing. They will explore the moon in small groups, 2 million people each.
Old26

+2

2 July 2017 17: 46

Quote: polev66
poor Chinese astronauts ... how will they burn the very place when they start to space launch on their rockets

And who are they starting at now? In Ukrainian? Or Russian?

Quote: Vzdrincher
Can't get the blueprints of a nuclear submarine

Do they miss their nuclear boats?
1. Orionvit
  
  +1
  
  2 July 2017 23: 02
  
  The entire Chinese space program is the USSR of the 70s.
Roman 11

0

2 July 2017 18: 05

What interests me is not this unsuccessful launch, but the fact that they are introducing against the Chinese! sanctions. Against 2 citizens and a company, for communication with the Kndrovites.
3vs

+3

2 July 2017 18: 10

Sadly, but no more.
For Russia, this would be a blow, but for China, with its population and money, this is insignificant ...
The next launch will be more successful ...
lance

0

2 July 2017 18: 12

interesting, lineup hangars. the second stage will be dealt with quickly. can in order to reduce the cost of hangar order from China?
LÄRZ

+4

2 July 2017 18: 16

As they say in science: "A negative result is also a result." It’s expensive, however, this learning from your mistakes costs, but there’s nothing to be done.
Old Horseradish

+4

2 July 2017 19: 07

Xinhua: Changzheng-5 media launch failed

Glory to you, Lord!
Vpk72

+4

2 July 2017 19: 29

The carrier layout is completely similar to RN Energia (oxygen, kerosene in 4 lateral accelerators, oxygen-hydrogen in the central unit). Only smaller
But the Chinese have shifted the numbering -
Stage 1 was called accelerators,
The 2nd stage was called the 1st stage.
Vpk72

+4

2 July 2017 19: 30

hydrogen at the bottom stage of course nonsense
very strong momentum loss.
sea level: 310 s
vacuum: 426 s
Data specifically for "Changzheng-5"
Naughty

+3

2 July 2017 19: 39

Quote: Vita VKO
Quote: Vzdrincher
That's just

In addition to China and Russia, no country will consciously and consistently resist the efforts of the US and the EU to destabilize the world order and create “terrorist-controlled chaos”. Therefore, the Russian and Chinese economies must be integrated, and the army in terms of its combat and technological capabilities is on the same level.

Yeah, we see how they are opposed. A Chinese woman rushed to Trump almost the day after entering the presidency. He swears friendship against Russia
And about the Chinese army. So it was created solely to restore order within the country. If you suddenly rebel because no one will fight in China in a nightmare. Can you imagine what to do with so many prisoners
dojjdik

0

2 July 2017 19: 46

Well, we have not bad with the Chinese so far, but here you have a shit with Iran and Syria
pafegosoff

+3

2 July 2017 20: 17

Sometimes ...
It’s only von Braun’s “Saturns” “flew” to the Moon without breakdowns (well, one according to the Hollywood script ... What is Apollo 13?)
1. voyaka uh
  
  0
  
  3 July 2017 11: 19
  Saturn (unused) remained in two American space museums
  and aviation.
faterdom

+2

2 July 2017 20: 28

No one is safe from failure. The Chinese are stubborn - they will overcome .. And most importantly - they cultivate and cherish, provide jobs for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of scientists, and their own, and ours are easily lured! And it will definitely affect them, they have a future!
And we have the Medvedev FANO and the Chubais Rusnano ...
Old26

+1

2 July 2017 20: 37

Quote: Vzdrincher
They fly on it and Ukraine periodically sells them space technology

Does Ukraine have space technology? More precisely left? The last carrier that was going to Ukraine was Zenit. The Chinese went their own way. Not afraid to take a chance. They, in particular, launch their cosmonauts on a carrier with a heptyl-amyl fuel pair. But we didn’t take such a risk at one time
They quietly operate oxygen-hydrogen engines, we do not
And if we consider that in rocket technology the last missile that we gave them was the royal R-5 (we did not want to transfer the documentation for the R-12), then they all had to decide on their own. And they did a good job of this. And if in the rocket area this is not so noticeable, then in the space - the movement is very frisky
Vpk72

+2

2 July 2017 20: 49

Quote: Old26
They quietly operate oxygen-hydrogen engines, we do not

What oxygen-hydrogen engines do they quietly operate?
Old26

+2

2 July 2017 21: 52

Quote: vpk72
These are what oxygen-hydrogen engines they quietly operate

The H-8 propulsion system with the YF-73 engine and the H-18 propulsion system with the YF-75 engine. Both of them are used in the DU 3 stages of the launch vehicle CZ-3 (Great Campaign-3). Launched such media since 1984 - 93 units. Now the operation of oxygen-hydrogen engines will be already at the first stage of the CZ-5 rocket, whose second launch (unsuccessful) was today. This is the YF-77 engine with a thrust of 52/71 tons (1 stage. Operating time 520 seconds) and the YF-75D engine of the second stage. Traction about 12-13 tons, operating time 780 seconds
voyaka uh

0

2 July 2017 22: 18

The second stage did not work?
kos2910

0

3 July 2017 05: 04

well, the usual thing. But in the Ruin there is not a single unsuccessful launch ...