In China, launched the rocket "Great campaign – 5"

The heavy-class carrier rocket Changzheng-5 (The Long March-5) with the Shijian-18 satellite launched on Sunday from the Wenchang space center in Hainan Province (China), reports RIA News.

The launch took place today at 19.23 local time (14.23 Moscow time). This is the second launch for the Changzheng-5 and the 250 series launch vehicles for the Long March cruise missiles in general.

The rocket with the Shijian-18 satellite was delivered to the cosmodrome on May 6.

It is reported that in April, the successful launch of "the first of six telecommunications satellites of the Shijian series to provide high-speed wireless Internet in transport." Then with the help of the carrier "Changzheng-3B" the apparatus "Shijian-13" was launched.

Earlier it was reported that this year China intends to put into orbit six telecommunications satellites that will provide high-speed Internet "in transport, particularly in airplanes and high-speed trains."

Help agency: "Changzheng-5" - the most powerful launch vehicle of a new generation of China. Its height is 56,97 meters, the diameter of the main stage - five meters. It is capable of putting tons of cargo into low-Earth orbit 25. The project to develop Changzhen-5 was approved by the State Council of the People's Republic of China in 2006. Liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen are used as a carrier fuel. ”

Comments

[Irokez]

MDE-ee-ee. Tyconwinds will soon populate space. There are not enough places on Earth and they will be on the Moon and Mars, and this is not a joke. The people are hardworking and do not eat so much, which is useful in long flights and stations with a minimum of food and conditions.

[Walanin]

Only not tyconauts but astronauts. The word "tyconaut" is an invention of the Russian yellow press.

[Shurik70]

Strange ...
On the 3rd of the day, there was a message in Chinese and international media that the launch was unsuccessful - either the satellite entered the wrong orbit that was needed, or it didn’t at all separate from the last booster stage. A press conference dedicated to the conclusion of this satellite was canceled.
one of the links:
https://riasv.ru/news_id/58565/
It turns out that they made the satellite work.

[vovanpain]

What can I say Well done Chinese, do business and do not PR.

[cniza]

Quote: vovanpain

What can I say Well done Chinese, do business and do not PR.

Greetings Vladimir!
They do their job with quiet glanders and grin sarcastically as we “butt” with the USA.

[novobranets]

Quote: vovanpain

do business and do not PR.

So far they have nothing to brag about.

The rocket should put into orbit the experimental satellite "Shijian-18", but could not do this, reports TASS. The causes of the emergency are being investigated. According to some reports, problems arose shortly after launch.

[APASUS]

Quote: vovanpain

What can I say Well done Chinese, do business and do not PR.

What good fellows though?

According to Xinhua, the launch of the launch vehicle failed. “During the flight, a deviation from the norm was recorded,” the agency said

[A1845]

Quote: APASUS

What good fellows though?

hydrogen mastered than not well done
and then everything is on the "stink", like protons ...

[APASUS]

Quote: A1845

hydrogen mastered than not well done

Judging by the results of the launch, they did not quite master it!

[A1845]

Hydrogen is a complex topic. During the life of S.P. Queen, we have not been able to master it. Energy successfully used hydrogen in the second stage, but where is it now? ..

[210ox]

It’s not that the people eat little. And the approach to this matter is the presence of a strong economy and funds.

[Orionvit]

That's just the strongest economy oriented to the west and the states, and is based on the dollar. They are on horseback now. We will wait for the next global economic crisis and look at the largest economy in the world. Sprinkle with everyone. Let’s see how they will be invested in space.

[210ox]

I don’t argue. Only in this case there will be a huge difference between us and the Chinese .. Our economy is much more sensitive to this .. And the Stabilization Fund is somewhere .. Yes, and the Chinese economy doesn’t bother me. It’s something closer to the body. Isn’t it ..

Quote: Orionvit

That's just the strongest economy oriented to the west and the states, and is based on the dollar. They are on horseback now. We will wait for the next global economic crisis and look at the largest economy in the world. Sprinkle with everyone. Let’s see how they will be invested in space.

[Orionvit]

Quote: 210ox

Our economy is much more sensitive to this.

I beg you, since when has the Russian economy become export-oriented? Well, except for weapons and energy. By and large, Russia has nothing to lose but spare chains. But let's see how China closes its factories, in the event of a loss of sales markets, a billion without work.

[Walanin]

What, China also began to rot as the West? About 70 years still wait?

[siberalt]

Yeah. And where did the Chinese ISS go?

[xetai9977]

Report that the launch failed. Mail.ru. What caused the failure is still unknown. An expert commission has been set up to investigate the incident.

[St Petrov]

only those who do nothing make no mistakes

[Mestny]

Really?
It remains to learn how to write this phrase when something goes wrong with ours.

[Vladimir 38]

But from the beginning, they will kill commercial satellite launches in Russia.

Quote: Irokez

MDE-ee-ee. Tyconwinds will soon populate space. There are not enough places on Earth and they will be on the Moon and Mars, and this is not a joke. The people are hardworking and do not eat so much, which is useful in long flights and stations with a minimum of food and conditions.

[Observer2014]

Does this “Great Campaign-5” look like “Angara”?

[donavi49]

Not. And then - see the schedule. How many hangars are planning to fly there? Changzheng went into the series.

In October-November there will be the next launch with a mission similar to the Moon-15, but only with a large set of tools at the landing site. Plans to fence 2kg of substance from different depths. Unlike the Moon-15 - the Chinese are fulfilling future manned missions. Therefore, a small research module will descend to the moon. He will conduct a set of studies, fill the capsule samples in the block being returned to orbit.

The block will go into orbit and will dock with the returned vehicle and fly home. Everything is automatic.

In 2018, a new mission is planned with a rover and a planned duration of one year (well, really, until it breaks).

All lunar missions will fly on this rocket. Also, this missile will launch the Chinese Tianhe station. This rocket will also carry the Martian rover in the 19-20 year.

[Orionvit]

Quote: donavi49

next start with a mission similar to Luna 15

You need to ask that at least a picture is taken at last of American trash on the moon. And then everyone flies, takes off, but there is still no evidence.

[voyaka uh]

The Japanese filmed, Indians.

[Orionvit]

Filmed. And they shot dark and light spots. And, still traces of the rover, where he had never ridden.

[voyaka uh]

Who cares? You DO NOT BELIEVE, so any photo will be
for you - a dark spot.

[Orionvit]

Well, whoever believes does not need proof. Blessed is the believer.

[Walanin]

Quote: Orionvit

You need to ask that at least a picture is taken at last of American trash on the moon.

It would be better to take a picture of at least something Russian outside the earth's orbit.

[Helicopter122]

Rather, the Soviet Energy.

[Mountain shooter]

According to the parameters - "Proton". Only on cryogenic fuels.

[Stabilization]

The launch of the most powerful Chinese launch vehicle Changzheng-5 (Great Campaign 5), carried out on Sunday from the Wenchang Cosmodrome in Hainan Province, was unsuccessful.

[donavi49]

And yes, it didn’t take off. Perhaps this will move the lunar station for a while.

China's launch of Long March-5 Y2 carrier rocket fails

[Smog]

It seems like a failed launch

China unsuccessfully launched the Great Campaign 5 heavy-class launch vehicle
15: 22 02.07.2017
Details of what happened to the rocket are not specified.

2:21/ 2:51


https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
01707021457-293e.htm
In China, the Wenchang cosmodrome unsuccessfully launched the heavy launch vehicle Great Voyage 5. It is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to the Chinese Xinhua News Agency.

Details of what happened to the rocket are not specified. On board the carrier was the communications satellite "Shijian-18" (The Long March 5-Y2).

[media = https: //tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/co
ntent / 201707021457-293e.htm]

[Dezinto]

Carried one satellite at 25 tons of payload?

According to the agency, problems appeared shortly after launch. What kind of problems are in question, not yet reported. No comments have been received from officials.
Changzheng-5 is a new generation Chinese launch vehicle. Its height is 56,97 meters, the diameter of the main step is five meters. It is capable of putting 25 tons of cargo into low Earth orbit.

Well, okay, all this is a mystery and one fig

[donavi49]

Well, in the video, she deduced. The first steps worked. That is, the jamb can be output (as with the same Breeze - which drowned the target load over and over again).


Update:
Unspecified deviation in the operation of the 2 stage.

[smart ass]

Nenado was to put the engine from the lifan

[NordUral]

Well done, the Chinese! Quietly, without bazaar hype, they are exploring the cosmos, while "our effective menagers" flood us with their tales of brilliant success.
PS I read that it was unsuccessful. Nothing, and the Queen had it. We would only have new royal comrades where to get.

[Chuvash]

do not rush to praise - the rocket did not take off

[Chuvash]

or rather: deviation from the norm during flight

[Walanin]

Even taking into account this failure, they are already the second largest number of space launches after the United States.

[16112014nk]

Something went wrong with the Chinese comrades. On the other hand, this is the 2nd launch of a heavy rocket. And what about the heavy “Hangar”? And we have Rogozin and his son on trampolines. Trampolines of this mass may not withstand. And then what?

[nikolas 83]

The Chinese are certainly hardworking. But for some reason everyone forgets that the Chinese helped with technology. The USSR helped, the Europeans, the Americans helped. The foreigners placed and are placing their production in China. The Chinese do not even have to think much. Almost everything is ready. We have invented little ourselves. All modern technology was given to them and now we envy.

[gridasov]

How much can you explain that the technologies associated with the flight of heavy La, flights at hyper speeds, and the analysis of super-large data are completely new and completely unexplored processes. They do not obey simple proportionality scaling. In other words, neither engines nor binary logic will allow dreams to come true. Essentially new approaches and knowledge are needed. Accordingly, neither Americans, nor Russians, Europeans, and Chinese have the opportunity to create superheavy rockets, because there are no engines, and the latter are not because there is no scientifically based knowledge about the processes of this level of energy interactions

[Jurkovs]

I would like to note the first stage of a 5-meter diameter, and it is not clear why hydrogen is in the first stage.

[Vpk72]

in theory, hydrogen is at the 2nd stage - the Chinese simply moved the numbering -
Stage 1 was called accelerators,
The 2nd degree was called the 1st stage.
The carrier layout is completely similar to RN Energia (oxygen, kerosene in 4 lateral accelerators, oxygen-hydrogen in the central unit). Only smaller

[Vpk72]

but hydrogen at the bottom stage is of course nonsense
very strong momentum loss.
sea ​​level: 310 s
vacuum: 426 s
Data specifically for "Changzheng-5"

[Old26]

Quote: siberalt

Yeah. And where did the Chinese ISS go?

But haven’t gone anywhere. The Tiangong-1 module has already flown off (5 years) and will be in orbit at the end of the year. Now the bunch of "Tiangong-2" and the truck "Tianzhou-1" are flying
In 2019 (possibly in 2020) the base station module will be launched. It is called "Tianhe." Then, over two years, two modules will be docked to it - laboratory modules Wentan and Mentan. They will be docked in the form of the letter T. Another module - the Xuntan orbital telescope, although it will be autonomous (autonomous flight), but in a very close orbit (more precisely, their orbit will be common) and will be able to dock to a modular orbital station for prevention

Quote: DEZINTO

Carried one satellite at 25 tons of payload?

He was "taken" to the geostationary station. At GEO, a rocket throws about 14 tons. The satellite weighs more than 7 tons

Quote: donavi49

All lunar missions will fly on this rocket. Also, this missile will launch the Chinese Tianhe station. This rocket will also carry the Martian rover in the 19-20 year.

This rocket will be used only for unmanned missions to the moon. For flights of manned ships, the carrier "Great Campaign-7" is being developed. 140 tons at the IEO, 50 tons to the moon. The first launch is planned for 2024-2025. By that time we’ll “finish” our “Federation”

[donavi49]

Well, I meant lunar missions in the foreseeable future. Lunar missions with people from China for 25, but real to 30. Therefore, I do not take them into account.

Those missions that will definitely be will fly on this rocket. Also about Mars, and about the Chinese space station. In general, this rocket will have a lot of work. The problem should be quickly corrected - for many launches are planned on it.

[Old26]

Quote: donavi49

Well, I meant lunar missions in the foreseeable future. Lunar missions with people from China for 25, but real to 30. Therefore, I do not take them into account.
Those missions that will definitely be will fly on this rocket. Also about Mars, and about the Chinese space station. In general, this rocket will have a lot of work. The problem should be quickly corrected - for many launches are planned on it.

Thanks for the clarification. But it was not entirely clear what kind of missions were discussed.

[Vpk72]

Quote: Old26

For flights of manned ships, the carrier "Great Campaign-7" is being developed. 140 tons at the IEO, 50 tons to the moon. The first launch is planned for 2024-2025. By that time we’ll “finish” our “Federation”

Mistake - not "Great Campaign-7", but "Great Campaign-9"

[Old26]

Quote: vpk72

Mistake - not "Great Campaign-7", but "Great Campaign-9"

Thank. Yes, of course. "Seven" she EMNIP 10-ton