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Chinese order for Russian Be-200 and Be-103 transferred to a firm contract

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Energy Leader Aircraft Manufacturing (China) has translated a memorandum of intent to purchase the Be-200 and Be-103 amphibious aircraft in solid form, the agency reports Russian weapons with reference to the press service of the Taganrog Aviation Scientific-Technical Complex (TANTK) them. Beriev.



“According to the contract, two Be-200 will be delivered to China; The contract provides an option for two more boards of this type. As for the Be-103, the document provides for not only the delivery of two cars, but also the organization in China of licensed production, a service center and a school to train the flight and technical staff for aircraft of this type, ”the report said.

The supply agreement was reached last November at the Zhuhai military exhibition. Aircraft deliveries are due to start in 2018.

Earlier it was reported that China intends to fully localize the licensed production of Be-103 aircraft on its territory.

The United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC), which includes the Aircraft Company, believes that the Be-200 has a high export potential. In 2016, memoranda for the purchase of aircraft were signed with Thailand, Kazakhstan, Indonesia and Vietnam. Interest in amphibious aircraft is shown in the EU and the USA.
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  1. MPK105
    MPK105 30 June 2017 11: 52
    +17
    China intends to completely localize on its territory the licensed production of Be-103 aircraft.
    Well done ... hi hi hi
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 30 June 2017 11: 56
      +22
      Fish rains in China guaranteed smile
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 30 June 2017 12: 30
        +3
        And what, China will draw fish from the Ob by air? belay
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 30 June 2017 12: 53
        +3
        We had. Aleksandrovsky district of the Tomsk region was extinguished. The neighbors in Kh.M. Krug had no better situation, the whole region was half a summer in a fire.
      3. ALLxANDr
        ALLxANDr 30 June 2017 13: 17
        +4
        What handsome men, already in the eyes of pride pinched! hi good soldier
    2. Iskander Sh
      Iskander Sh 30 June 2017 11: 57
      +11
      Quote: MPK105
      Well done ...



      Given the crisis in Russia, does it make sense to give jobs and production?
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 30 June 2017 12: 07
        +27
        not only the supply of two machines, but also the organization of licensed production in China
        they write as if it is a victory.
        Instead of collecting planes in Taganrog and receiving money and taxes to the Rostov Region, the construction will be transferred to China.
        The Chinese are well done. Enemies from our side (swear words for some reason in my head)

        And then they yell: - we invite investors. D, B.
        And the order itself - TWO aircraft! I can still understand if there are twenty-two aircraft, but shout about signing a contract for TWO aircraft? We will not die today !!!, we will build two aircraft and sell the documentation! And then we will sell everything else! Hooray! wassat
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 30 June 2017 14: 40
          +4
          Quote: Vladimir16
          And the order itself - TWO aircraft!

          China has already completed the construction of the world's largest amphibious aircraft AG600

          Crew: 3 pilot
          Capacity: 50 passengers.
          Length: 36,9 m.
          Swipe: 38,8 m.
          Height: 12,1 m.
          Maximum takeoff weight: 53,500 kg.
          Engine: 4 × WJ-6 turboprop, 3805 kW (5103 hp).
          Screws: 6-blade constant speed propellers.
          It is capable of collecting 12 tons of water on board in 20 seconds.
          Flight characteristics
          Maximum speed: 570 km / h.
          Maximum range: 5500 km.
          Maximum height: 10500 m


          Therefore, the sale of two Be-200s is also a great success.
        2. faiver
          faiver 30 June 2017 14: 44
          +5
          you don’t need to carry any rubbish, the license was sold for small amphibian be-103, and for the part-be-200 the Chinese do not need a license for it - the market for such amphibious aircraft is very narrow - the demand is scanty, so it’s easier to buy several planes from Russia than to organize useless at home production...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 08
        +6
        Quote: Iskander Sh
        Does it make sense to give away jobs and production?

        How do you come to such conclusions?
        Based on what ???
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        2. Iskander Sh
          Iskander Sh 30 June 2017 14: 36
          +1
          Based on the article.

          Quote:
          Earlier it was reported that China intends to fully localize the licensed production of Be-103 aircraft on its territory.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 17: 05
            +4
            Quote: Iskander Sh
            Based on the article.

            In India, they collect SU 30. Have we got plants?
            1. Iskander Sh
              Iskander Sh 30 June 2017 20: 37
              +2
              Production and assembly, is there a difference?
    3. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 30 June 2017 12: 04
      +9
      From the beginning, you need to satisfy your needs for this aircraft, and then sell it to others, there is nothing to extinguish fires with.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 30 June 2017 12: 12
        +6
        Well, they varied right away ... Well, they sold and we’ll build it for ourselves with this money! And it is necessary to throw out fires less than a bull-calf from cars, it is clear !!!
        1. Spartanez300
          Spartanez300 30 June 2017 12: 14
          +10
          Are you serious or do you have such thinking, if so then I sympathize with you.
        2. marshes
          marshes 30 June 2017 13: 01
          +6
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Well, they varied right away ... Well, they sold and we’ll build it for ourselves with this money! And it is necessary to throw out fires less than a bull-calf from cars, it is clear !!!

          Vitalik, forest-steppes and without people can burn. In the first case, from dry thunderstorms in the second, there is a human factor, from broken bottles and beer cans.
          And there’s a rather interesting way to write off the forest for cutting, they told me in the Omsk region, they catch a squirrel, they dip a tail into a solarium with gasoline, set fire. Then, on the tops, everything took fire with it. And then goes to the cabin.
          In the woods when sawing all this is visible.
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 30 June 2017 12: 55
        +1
        We have enough with us. You can’t put out all the fires from the air. There is a grassroots, there is a horse and others. Accordingly, the extinguishing methods. Try to put out the peat bogs from the air.
      3. Felix
        Felix 1 July 2017 12: 20
        0
        Quote: Spartanez300
        From the beginning, you need to satisfy your needs for this aircraft, and then sell it to others, there is nothing to extinguish fires with.

        Our need for such aircraft is completely closed, because this machine is used only in areas where there are suitable reservoirs within reach.
    4. avt
      avt 30 June 2017 12: 12
      +4
      Quote: MPK105
      Well done ...

      Ours? Yes . But in general, the car is controversial. For his .... ,, sigmenta "still difficult to pilot.
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        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 34
          +5
          Quote: sds87
          There are no idiots. There is a club of traitors to the motherland.

          Here are two smart people sitting, writing nonsense and they themselves do not understand
          1. sds87
            sds87 30 June 2017 13: 12
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here are two smart people sitting, writing nonsense and they themselves do not understand

            One novel with a king in his head (instead of the brain) knows everything. You are here a little hanging out at VO - the all-knowing monarchists.
        2. Vladimir 38
          Vladimir 38 30 June 2017 12: 36
          +3
          Quote: sds87
          Quote: Vladimir 38
          And the diots in our government, honestly.

          There are no idiots. There is a club of traitors to the motherland.

          Yes, this is a more accurate definition ..
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 30 June 2017 12: 42
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir 38
        Yeah, they’re also buying two planes each .. My opinion is that less than 50 cars cannot be sold to these comrades at all ..

        Yes, in 50 aircraft, in general this type is evaluated - on a global scale! The plane occupies a very narrow niche; nobody has bought it except Azerbaijan; in 15 years, the memoranda are pretty solid.
        1. Vladimir 38
          Vladimir 38 30 June 2017 13: 11
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: Vladimir 38
          Yeah, they’re also buying two planes each .. My opinion is that less than 50 cars cannot be sold to these comrades at all ..

          Yes, in 50 aircraft, in general this type is evaluated - on a global scale! The plane occupies a very narrow niche; nobody has bought it except Azerbaijan; in 15 years, the memoranda are pretty solid.

          Not only did I mean these planes ..
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 30 June 2017 11: 57
    +4
    Once for the Chinese, In the Chinese Sea there are multiple pockets of fire. Must be stewed
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 30 June 2017 11: 58
      +2
      This is "Caliber" better smile
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 30 June 2017 12: 04
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        This is "Caliber" better

        E. Caliber extinguish fires on the surface fleet, and the Chinese only Yakhont winked
  3. may Day
    may Day 30 June 2017 11: 59
    +2
    I saw the BE-200 in action at the military forum Army 2015 - an impressive sight! Despite the fact that the car is large enough, you will not refuse to maneuverability!
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 June 2017 12: 00
    +5
    ... everyone has fires, because the aircraft of this specialization are so in demand ...
  5. wku
    wku 30 June 2017 12: 01
    +2
    correctly! Double punch! and money will be earned and all the taiga in Siberia and on Lake Baikal will burn out in the absence of a sufficient number of BE-200 from our Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Chinese will not get the smuggled round timber from Russia!
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 30 June 2017 12: 06
      +7
      I missed it in the news, but it says that two cars will be taken away from the Ministry of Emergencies? Or what?
      1. wku
        wku 30 June 2017 12: 23
        +3
        Quote: Muvka
        I missed it in the news, but it says that two cars will be taken away from the Ministry of Emergencies? Or what?

        there isn’t just for such a large country like the Russian Federation in the Ministry of Emergencies there are very few of them, and the situation is growing every year with fires!
        1. faiver
          faiver 30 June 2017 14: 46
          +3
          So the Ministry of Emergencies does not order ...
          1. wku
            wku 30 June 2017 14: 55
            0
            Quote: faiver
            So the Ministry of Emergencies does not order ...

            very bad, but what does it order? with such a huge budget? - The palace on the Rublevka ordered the palace in the form of a pagoda, well, maybe if you bring Buddhist monks from Tibet (to this pagoda on the ruble), they will shaman rain and the fires will disappear? then it's up to the small! evict the current residents and populate the Palace mansion on Rublevka with monks from Tibet.
            1. faiver
              faiver 30 June 2017 16: 04
              +1
              this is not a question for me hi
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 09
      +5
      Quote: wku
      correctly! Double punch! and money will be earned and all the taiga in Siberia and on Lake Baikal will burn in the absence of a sufficient number of BE-200 from our Ministry of Emergencies

      Che still not burned out?
      1. wku
        wku 30 June 2017 12: 20
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Che still not burned out?

        burning for now!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 25
          +5
          Quote: wku
          burning for now!

          So what ? Steady on and what? Forest fires periodically happen all over the world. Why write garbage?
          1. wku
            wku 30 June 2017 12: 38
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            So what ? Steady on and what? Forest fires periodically happen all over the world. Why write garbage?

            in recent years, the problem has been catastrophically increasing!
            I didn’t think that the chief Generalissimo at VO was not informed by his adjutants until he “worked with documents” and crunches a French bun!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 59
              +4
              Quote: wku
              in recent years, the problem has been catastrophically increasing!

              Do not lie!!!
              1. wku
                wku 30 June 2017 13: 14
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Do not lie!!!

                from what you consider a lie, the problem with forest fires in the Russian Federation unfortunately does not decrease! in the last five years already!
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 17: 08
                  +4
                  Quote: wku
                  from what you consider a lie, the problem with forest fires in the Russian Federation unfortunately does not decrease! in the last five years already!

                  Once again I say, do not lie!
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 June 2017 12: 07
    +13
    Send comments. Be-103 - a small airplane, does not extinguish fires, is not in demand in Russia, is not mass-produced. License sale - tram jackpot.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 June 2017 12: 26
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Send comments. Be-103 - a small airplane, does not extinguish fires, is not in demand in Russia, is not mass-produced. License sale - tram jackpot.

      The first sensible koment. Although the watchman and movers do not catch it.
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 30 June 2017 12: 46
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Although the watchman and movers do not catch it.

        Why don’t they understand that? I understand! And I'm one of those watchmen who guarded the homeland. And the loader too (loaded more than one thousand tons of BTVT and BTI). laughing So the normal watchmen and movers understand everything. They do not understand the prosralipolymers, but they are trying to portray themselves as great figures in the economy of states. wink
      2. okko077
        okko077 30 June 2017 13: 21
        0
        Why are you? What can not be said that his engines are not ours? And production is almost zero ... It is necessary to educate, better arguments ....
  7. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 30 June 2017 12: 14
    +5
    2 planes, that's right: one for flight tests, the second to disassemble "in the cog" to study the device and technology, the Chinese have recently been buying Russian equipment ....
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 30 June 2017 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      the second is to disassemble "in the cog" to study the device and technology, the Chinese have recently been buying Russian equipment ...

      With such a flag and in. Your head is on the wall and not any abstract thinking. Palyu Old. The Chinese have long been no longer gluing drawings from under the shredder. Snickering. The order is accepted - everything will be chiki puki- and. create two head pirates, and there they are already budding with all the laboring Chinese consciousness
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 30 June 2017 12: 40
        +2
        "Paleu Old" - the Chinese are doing absolutely everything regarding the extraction of new technologies, including "gluing drawings from under the shredder." In China, "military-industrial and simply technological" espionage is the state program, so to speak, the basis and foundation of China's "great leap" into the future .... wink
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 30 June 2017 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          the Chinese are doing absolutely everything regarding the extraction of new technologies, including "gluing drawings from under the shredder."

          I repeat. they don’t need it anymore. If you want to organize your high-tech production, you will count and go to China
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 30 June 2017 12: 37
      +2
      What for? Market what is this airplane? China need? Is it worth it?

      So far, 3 Be-200 - 1 Azerbaijan and 2 to China + 2 options have been sold to the foreign market. Everything. The rest prefer to buy small planes. For:
      - they are cheaper.
      - they are much cheaper to operate.
      - they have a cheaper flight hour.

      If it burns on a large scale, you can shout and the Ministry of Emergencies will fly from Be-200. It’s cheaper to pay travel expenses and fuel and lubricants than to maintain an airplane for a year. Moreover - let it burn until it goes out, sometimes also cheaper than Be-200.

      China's need - up to 10 machines, 2 + 2 already bought.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 30 June 2017 12: 46
        +3
        This is despite the fact that the aircraft is already 15 years in operation! So I don’t see anything wrong with a real sale to China - it’s better than the abstract interests of all kinds of Indonesia, Portugal and other Philippines (the latter can only be done on loans)
      2. Stena
        Stena 30 June 2017 13: 25
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        What for? Market what is this airplane? China need? Is it worth it?

        The Be-200 can also be used as an anti-submarine aircraft. As far as I know, this is the development of anti-submarine aircraft (Be-12).
        I don’t know only how much is relevant now and whether there is a military need for such machines.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 30 June 2017 13: 47
          +5
          Not. Be-200 is a jet MESnik. It was built like that. Here is the A-40, yes - there are also 6 tons of gifts + a sonar system, buoys, people at the controls.

          The Be-200 - there is no patrol range / time at low altitude (the wing is new, unlike the A-40 at high altitude in eco mode), there is no carrying capacity.

          And why, if the Chinese have already made their PLO boat precisely for these purposes. With twice as long range, better stability at low speed, huge volumes for equipment and carrying capacity even more than A-40.
      3. ando_bor
        ando_bor 30 June 2017 13: 40
        +1
        The Americans and the Europeans have a desire and need for prioritizing the BE-200, they are forbidden to buy, it was created as a weapon against submarines, and they are forbidden to finance the purchase of aircraft, the development of weapons against their own submarines.
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  10. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 30 June 2017 14: 12
    +1
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    And it is necessary to throw out fires less than a bull-calf from cars, it is clear !!!

    Fires are not from the "bulls." Fires - cover for poaching deforestation! They cut it out - set it on fire, all the ends went into smoke!
    A planes are certainly good, but it would be better if they were produced in Russia!
  11. stoker
    stoker 30 June 2017 14: 41
    +3
    Great deal. Excellent international advertising for both the company itself and its aircraft.
  12. kirgudu
    kirgudu 30 June 2017 14: 50
    0
    Agree, agree. They will disassemble and assemble the floor hundreds of the same. And they wanted to chew on all licenses, unlike us. And they’re doing it right.
  13. exo
    exo 30 June 2017 16: 08
    +1
    Soon we will see a Chinese fake on the Be-200 theme. Therefore, we bought only two cars (IMHO)
  14. shura7782
    shura7782 30 June 2017 16: 34
    0
    I was very sad. sad
    They will slightly change the appearance and drive them at a “speculative price” to our potential customers.
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