Topol-M vs. Minuteman-3. Infographics

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In Russia, the basis of the strike group of the Strategic Missile Forces is the Topol-M ICBM, while in the United States, the Minuteman-3 ICBM serves as the main nuclear “club”.

The American rocket surpasses the development of the domestic defense industry by the fact that it has not one, but three warheads. In addition, the "Minuteman-3" has higher tactical and technical characteristics in terms of range and shooting accuracy. "Topol-M" is more maneuverable, it is able to repeatedly change the trajectory of flight, which allows it to break through not only existing, but also projected air defense systems.

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  1. +10
    28 June 2017 08: 36
    Minuteman-3 is, of course, one of the masterpieces of world rocket technology.
    However, Topol-M will be more efficient - and finding where the launcher is located is more difficult, and the flight path is not calculated. And the fact that the warhead hits with an accuracy of 350 m, and not 210, as in the Minutman-3 is an insignificant drawback, and does not play a decisive role in a nuclear warhead. Regarding the RGC, the candy bar on Topol is declared solely because of the provisions of the START treaties on the limitation of carriers and warheads, and not because of technical capabilities. Put five models in the warhead - and the likelihood of the effectiveness of the enemy’s missile defense will decrease significantly. The firing range of the Minuteman-3 - this is not very important: to hit targets on the territory of a likely enemy, full range is not required. And in the USA they did not test the full range ... hi
    1. 0
      28 June 2017 08: 47
      Repeatedly met with the fact that the range depends on the cast weight. Minimum weight - maximum range and vice versa. But not the maximum weight - the maximum range.
      1. +3
        28 June 2017 11: 48
        Quote: ImPerts
        Repeatedly met with the fact that the range depends on the cast weight. Minimum weight - maximum range and vice versa. But not the maximum weight - the maximum range.

        So this is if you compare the same missiles. And these are not the same at all. Fuel, engines are different, one warhead maneuvers, the second - no. And for the Minutemen firing at full range was not carried out. Typically, launches at 6-7 thousand km - like with Poplar.
        And I repeat - Minuteman-3 is one of the masterpieces of world rocket technology. Here are just a mobile version of this missile so created and was not, despite the attempts that have taken place.
        The article above is a reprint of a year ago. Http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/infographics
        / TopolM_vs_Minitmen3
        By the way, from the beginning of the zero, the Minutemen were re-equipped from three warheads to one - this re-equipment was completed in 2014,
    2. +2
      28 June 2017 09: 17
      Despite the almost 30-year difference in adopting missiles, it was not possible to achieve the basic characteristics of Minuteman-3 (judging by the table).
  2. NUR
    0
    28 June 2017 09: 42
    Why not compare with the yars he has 3 heads. Actually, poplar maneuvers this advantage. It will be difficult to bring down, each other are standing.
  3. +3
    28 June 2017 12: 16
    The Topol-M missiles, which are 55's, that 65's are all in the troops of 78 pieces. Yars come with 2011 - today there are about 96 of them. They, if not superior, then not inferior to the Minutemans. Here are just the number of these same Minuteman-3 already 450 ...
    1. +1
      28 June 2017 19: 25
      Quote: Moore
      The Topol-M missiles, which are 55's, that 65's are all in the troops of 78 pieces. Yars come with 2011 - today there are about 96 of them. They, if not superior, then not inferior to the Minutemans. Here are just the number of these same Minuteman-3 already 450 ...

      US Air Force Strategic Command
      In total, according to data published in the Western press, in the combat structure of the U.S. Air Force there are 1362 strategic nuclear weapon carriers (1010 ICBMs and 352 bomber), including ground-based missile forces - 540 launchers (launchers) ICBM "Minuteman-3", 450 launcher ICBM "Minuteman-2" and 10 launcher ICBM ICBM "Titan-2" (the latter are withdrawn from service).

      http://war1960.ru/vs/sakvvsusa.shtml
      The structure, composition and armament of the Strategic Missile Forces
      Currently (information for the 2015 year), the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation Armed Forces are armed with 305 missile systems of five different types:
      UR-100NUTTH - 60 (320 warheads);
      P-36М2 (and its modifications) - 46 (460 warheads);
      "Poplar" - 72 (72 warhead);
      Topol-M (including mine and mobile options) - 78 (78 warheads);
      “Yars” - 49 (196 warheads).

      https://militaryarms.ru/armii-mira/raketnie-voysk
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      I didn’t think that everything is so bad ....
      1. 0
        28 June 2017 22: 24
        And how much money our Topol-M costs in money ...
      2. 0
        29 June 2017 04: 20
        Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
        Yars - 49 (196 warheads). I didn’t think that everything is so bad ....

        Since 2015, a lot has passed - it has become 96. The figure changes every quarter - 2-3 APUs are customized.
        But what’s bad ... So, if not so much as to reduce armies by divisions, where will it be good?
        1. +1
          29 June 2017 11: 54
          For any threefold superiority over us. All our launchers of ICBMs could easily fit in two RAs, would save on parasites (control).
          Currently, the Strategic Missile Forces group includes about 400 intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads of various power classes. Concentrated in the troops more 60% strategic weapons and warheads of the strategic nuclear forces of Russia. The Strategic Missile Forces have three missile armies. Their headquarters are in Omsk, Orenburg and Vladimir. Armies are made up from 12 divisions constant readiness, as well as missile training ranges, arsenals, communication centers and training centers.

          https://topwar.ru/106105-strategicheskiy-argument
          -rossii.html
          Those. for 33 ICBMs on average per division, how many PU ICBMs in each regiment? Bloated states. In the presence of the START Treaty, the number of launchers of ICBMs will not increase. I believe that the Russian strategic nuclear forces should be reoriented to SSBNs (they are more mobile and save on managerial staff), and the existing RA divisions should be reduced to two RAs, with an increased number of ICBM launchers in each division than now ....
          1. 0
            29 June 2017 12: 47
            Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
            All our launchers of ICBMs could easily fit in two RAs, would save on parasites (control) ...
            I believe that the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation should be reoriented to SSBNs (they are more mobile and save on managerial staff), and the existing RA divisions should be reduced to two RAs, with an increased number of ICBM launchers in each division than now .....

            1. I will repeat: "if not just divisions — reduce armies." Not only the apparatus of divisions and armies was reduced - regiments with PUs too. Only Irkutsk remained from the Chita army - it was included in Omsk. From the point of view of the territories, control from 2 armies will be purely symbolic. Another question is - do they even need them with their device?
            2. Reorient to SSBN? Which are based on two bases? What is the period and cost of building one SSBN compared to the supply of one missile regiment PGRK?
            Law of control: only a system consisting of dissimilar elements is stable.
            1. +1
              29 June 2017 13: 24
              Moore

              Only Irkutsk remained from the Chita army - it was included in Omsk. From the point of view of territories - control from the 2 armies will be purely symbolic. Another question is - do they even need them with their device?

              Especially. So it is necessary to disband the RA and divisions and create on their basis missile groups (in directions) with attached units and subunits and combine all this into the Strategic Missile Forces Command under the Russian Air Force .... this will be even more relevant when the United States and the Russian Federation leave the INF Treaty ....
              Reorient to SSBNs? Which are based on two bases?

              Is the USA different?
              Especially for the basing of new submarines in the United States, two bases were modernized. One on the Pacific coast is Bangor, today it is Navy Kitsap (formed in 2004 by merging the base of the submarines Bangor and Navy Bremerton) in Washington state, the second on the Atlantic coast is Navy Kings Bay in Georgia. Each of these two bases is designed to service 10 SSBNs.

              https://topwar.ru/90162-atomnye-podvodnye-lodki-s
              -ballisticheskimi-raketami-plarb-tipa-ogayo.html
              What is the period and cost of building one SSBN compared to the supply of one missile regiment PGRK?

              This is already from the field of military planning, I do not insist on my opinion ....
              1. 0
                29 June 2017 18: 56
                Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
                Is the USA different?

                Yes, in a different way. They have, for example, the concept of "advanced base base." Do not forget about Guam and special floating bases for SSBNs.
                1. +1
                  29 June 2017 19: 12

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                  Moore Today, 18: 56 ↑
                  Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
                  Is the USA different?
                  Yes, in a different way. They have, for example, the concept of "advanced base base."

                  They are not intended for the adoption of SSBNs, but for the general naval forces .... and submarines at best ....
                  and special floating bases for SSBNs.

                  To hell with us, for example, floating docks for SSBNs, if we have far from 300 and not 200 "pennants" of 1 rank ....
      3. 0
        29 June 2017 12: 08
        and who cried in the Pentagon that they say the Russians jumped us? 1300 warheads (USA) versus 1800 (RF), in addition, did not take into account submarines (SSGNs) and cruise missiles on airplanes
        1. +1
          29 June 2017 12: 20
          The respected article only talks about ground-based ICBMs and a comparison of two types of missiles .....
          1. +1
            30 June 2017 11: 26
            hurt yourself! let's compare P-36m. "Satan" and "Minuteman"! Why is it necessary to "poplar" compare ???
            "Satan" she is the "governor" she is r-36m she is 15A18m
            range max - 15000 km
            warhead 10 warheads of 550 ct / 750 ct + 40 false targets.
            accuracy 400m
            mortar launch
            inertial guidance + astro correction.
            1. +1
              30 June 2017 12: 57

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              marder7 Today, 11: 26 ↑
              hurt yourself! let's compare P-36m. "Satan" and "Minuteman"! Why is it necessary to "poplar" compare ???

              This is the author of the article write, and here I am ....
              1. 0
                30 June 2017 16: 04
                Yes, you don’t have to write anything to anybody, the informants were scammers. You know, and shut up, mattresses and not in the house will be.
  4. +2
    29 June 2017 18: 21
    Quote: DOCTOR ZLO
    I didn’t think that everything is so bad ....

    The article forgot to indicate the power of the charges. Minuteman - 300Kt, Poplar M -550Kt or 1 Mt.
  5. +3
    29 June 2017 20: 15
    if 20 nuclear warheads reach yo I think that this is a catastrophe of the planetary headquarters if we don’t like ourselves that way, but the people ??? I mean everyone living on this planet.
  6. +1
    29 June 2017 23: 02
    At the Pentagon, the Dog barked!
    Wait, the dog is angry,
    Gouging arrogance diminish,
    We will incite Russian hackers!
  7. 0
    30 June 2017 07: 37
    What are we discussing? Shtetl insanity? And if not small-town, then whose.? In the livejournal, look - "Overton's window is a technology for introducing unthinkable ideas." To discuss which bomb is better, they propose to try it out for themselves, or what? -So dreams come true and the future is planned by our brains, almost without outside help. So, discuss which rocket. carrying a nuclear charge is better equivalent to how to offer cannibalism in the form of the idea of ​​public canteens. Here, attach a jeepies sensor to the oligarchs, and as soon as they run, climb into the cellar ourselves, it will be more correct to
  8. 0
    30 June 2017 12: 34
    Article stupidity, compare finger and penis, plus obvious errors. Discussing this is pointless.
  9. +1
    30 June 2017 12: 41
    God grant that these missiles on both sides remain forever in launchers and in warehouses
  10. +3
    30 June 2017 23: 04
    Maybe it was better to compare the Minuteman with Yars? Especially since Poplar was going to replace Yars.
  11. 0
    1 July 2017 19: 35
    The author simply does not understand the topic. Minuteman 3 is a stationary rocket. The development is 50 years old, and Poplar is a relatively new development. It is mobile and difficult to find, unlike the Minuteman.
  12. 0
    2 July 2017 05: 12
    I sit, read comments, scratch turnip ... But what's the difference, whose bolt is longer? Even if half flies from both sides, and it flies, then almost all of them will go. This is in theory. In practice, it’s better not to check.
  13. +2
    3 July 2017 13: 48
    I wish everyone that these baubles rusted on their points of origin. On both sides, naturally.
    1. +2
      3 July 2017 17: 50
      And to you as well, the same to your baubles (which supposedly is not) ....