FSMTC denies reports of $ 7 billion for FGFA

Reports that Moscow demanded 7 billions of dollars for FGFA (a fifth-generation Russian-Indian fighter, an analogue of the T-50) from Delhi do not correspond to reality, the head of FSMTC Dmitry Shugaev told journalists on the first day of the international aerospace show in Le Bourget, reports RIA News

These messages are not true. If a contract is signed, FGFA will not yield to our PAK FA (T-50)

- said Shugaev.

He stressed that no country in the world, except Russia, transferred to India such "sensitive" technologies.

India will receive not just a plane, but the right to its (intellectual - note VO) property

- noted the head of the FSMTC.

Shugaev stressed that in the course of negotiations with the Indian side on this issue we are in no way talking about "deterioration of technical characteristics." “We are talking about the adaptation of the aircraft for a specific customer,” added Shugaev.

Comments

[Atenon]

Normal price for technology.

[Partyzan]

free of charge - means for nothing

[Berber]

Pessimist. Everything is bad. Even if it’s good.

[g1washntwn]

A pessimist is a knowledgeable optimist;)

[aliis-M]

it's a realist

[voyaka uh]

Wait a while. The Hindus will wait and buy the F-35, and all negotiations are safe
will end.
But Russia will have 20 unique T-50s without Hindu funding.
And technology will not leak anywhere. Just out of date.

[Alex777]

Do not buy. They don’t have such friendship as you do with America.
They were interested in the catapult, but it seems to me that they will also wait until the planes begin to fly on Ford.

[Shahno]

Well, here you are mistaken for money, such a friendship will flare up. This is the East.

[andj61]

Quote: voyaka uh

Wait a while. The Hindus will wait and buy the F-35, and all negotiations are safe
will end.
But Russia will have 20 unique T-50s without Hindu funding.
And technology will not leak anywhere. Just out of date.

Well, not 20, but 120 ... Or 220. And he will become obsolete oh how soon !. And the potential for modernization is very good.
Indians, of course, and the F-35 is suitable - subject to assembly in India, a high degree of localization and technology transfer. These are their usual requirements - they want to develop their industry. But since the USA will not allow this, the American Indians will most likely not buy a plane either. After all, they have the task for the same money not only to increase the level of defense capability, but also the level of technical development. And the Indians will have to negotiate with us. And ours, as usual, will meet them - to the mutual benefit ....

[voyaka uh]

"Well, not 20, but 120 ... Or 220" ////

Or 1220 ... Well, well ... Is the "dog in the manger" story familiar?

[dauria]

Well, well ... Is the "dog in the manger" story familiar?

Familiar, and ended already with three weddings
What is bad?

On what, high assembly,
Hope no one of course
Won't betray Theodoro's secret
We, with your permission,
And finish the story of the Dog,
Which lies in the hay.

[voyaka uh]

Well, then I wish to get married!

[andj61]

Quote: voyaka uh

"Well, not 20, but 120 ... Or 220" ////
Or 1220 ... Well, well ... Is the "dog in the manger" story familiar?

That is, you do not believe in the possibility of an agreement between Russia and India on this plane?
Why such pessimism? In such cases, India has repeatedly agreed with Russia, and with other countries. And modern airplanes in a bunch of countries of the world and supplied, will be delivered post-flight. And all these "top-secret" information leaks are either elements of bargaining or the machinations of competitors!

[voyaka uh]

“So you don’t believe in the possibility of an agreement between Russia and India on this plane?” ///

I believe that this is the only chance for Russia to make the T-50 aircraft or its version mass. Otherwise there will be interesting specimens for world museums.
Russia is much more interested in such a 5th generation aircraft than India.
India can spit on everything and buy a prepared F-35. But what should Russia do when there is "no money"? Do you buy from the Chinese?
So it’s necessary to “overcome the pride of the superpower” for the sake of the 5th generation mass fighter.

[aliis-M]

And what is India's interest in buying the F-35? They have an interest in developing their own industry rather than in any way filling the troops with 5th generation airplanes. They look at China, and China itself is developing such aircraft

[Shahno]

Is not a fact. Because nothing is always worse than Merc outside the window.

[Shahno]

What is the potential for modernization? Russia has already created the 5 generation fighter?

[andj61]

Quote: Shahno

What is the potential for modernization? Russia has already created the 5 generation fighter?

The first four generations created. Fifth at the exit. And in a series. New aircraft have always had good potential for modernization. They are created in such a way that it can also be improved. Moreover, with each generation, the life of the aircraft and the number of upgrades are only growing. Farman of the First World War could be improved only by putting a new engine. And after 10 years, this plane is hopelessly outdated. And the F-16 or Su 27 have been flying for so many years, periodically undergoing modernization.
Do you think this time will be different?

[Niccola Mack]

The Hindus will wait and buy the F-35, and all negotiations are safe
will end.

In Israel, the F-35 is probably the light in the window, everyone is praying for it.
But no one has ever seen him in business - advances alone!
I remember the previous "invisibility" F-117, the primitive air defense of Serbia was able to fill up.

[Lex.]

Wait a while. The Hindus will wait and buy the F-35, and all negotiations are safe
will end.
But Russia will have 20 unique T-50s without Hindu funding.
And technology will not leak anywhere. Just out of date.
And that only India needs t-50 there is Algeria, the UAE, Egypt will buy

[god-given]

Everything is as usual

[Vita vko]

Over $ 35 billion was spent on the development of the F-2011 aircraft in April 56

Therefore, the leak of information about 7 billion for FGFA technology is a very real figure, one can say the minimum. Moreover, India must have requested the transfer of 100% technology, including such sensitive for Russia as modern radar with active AFAR and second-stage engines.

[Banishing liberoids]

That is, the fact that the transfer to the Indians was officially confirmed, and as a result of the United States, some of our defense technologies!

[faiver]

Yes, you can sell, the Indians have one horseradish hands in terms of production do not grow from there

[Georgievic]

"... India will get not just a plane, but the right to its property ..." Is this not a typo? It looks like in FSVTS either finished, or subcutaneous enemies are sitting!