The next batch of T-72B3 entered the First Tank Army

Another batch of twenty upgraded tanks T-72B3 entered service with the First Tank Army, reports Interfax-AVN with reference to the press service of the Western Military District (ZVO).

Received the latest technology and passed the test of two dozen combat vehicles will be put into operation a motorized rifle compound XNUM-th tank army

- Said in the press service -

Currently, one of the tank army units is fully equipped with new combat vehicles, which doubled its firepower.

The press service reported that the upgraded T-72B3 are equipped with a more powerful engine in 1130 horsepower, as well as an improved weapon system. The car received a new aiming system with a digital display, as well as a television rear-view camera. The changes also affected the armor of the tank, which is reinforced by onboard screens with dynamic protection modules "Relic", hinged lattice screens, as well as new dynamic protection modules in a "soft" case.

The first tank army with headquarters in Bakovka (Moscow region) was created as part of the Western Military District. It includes the 4-I Kantemirovskaya tank division, the 2-I Taman motorized rifle division, the 6-I armored brigade, the 27-I Sevastopol motorized rifle brigade.

The T-72B3 tank is equipped with a digital chassis control system that provides automated control over the operation of the power plant, transmission, and automatic shift modes.

In February, Colonel-General Oleg Salyukov, commander of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation, said that the planned integrated complex re-equipment of the troops with modern weapons and military equipment continues.

In constant-readiness military units, more than 50% of modern T-72B3, T-80U and T-90A tanks. Carried out annual purchases of these machines, which are not inferior to the best foreign models in fire and maneuverability, will ensure a share of modern tanks up to 2020% by 70

- said O. Salyukov.

Comments

[voyaka uh]

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?
The amazing thing: India has the T-90, and Russia has the T-72 ...

[garx]

T-90 and T-72 are slightly different tanks! And in general, where do you get 25 thousand T-72 standing in arms and storage? Although the T-90 is a deep modernization of the T-72, they have different tasks.

[voyaka uh]

"And in general, where will you get 25 thousand tanks standing in armament and storage?" ///

I do not know ...
But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.
The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

[garx]

Then and now the tank is the 2nd main crew and its experience and training, in 1941 there were only tanks ...

[kapitan92]

Quote: garx

Then and now the tank is the 2nd main crew and its experience and training, in 1941 there were only tanks ...

I dare to disagree with you! On June 22, 1941, the USSR had about 23 tanks, of which 000 to 10 vehicles were located in the western military districts. On the same date, the German Wehrmacht had about 000 tanks, of which 15 to 500 were located on the Soviet-German border, I draw your attention to the fact that all our tanks were 6% equipped with crews. Other, the level of training of these crews !!!

By July 10, 1941, the Red Army lost 11783 tanks, by the end of 1941 - more than 28000 tanks (1731 combat vehicles remained in service). In subsequent years, losses are estimated at more than 20000 cars per year. And in total for the war, according to the statement of the former chief of the General Staff M.A. Moiseenko, about 95000 tanks were lost (at the same time, from July 1, 1941 to June 30, 1945, according to official figures, 95099 tanks and self-propelled guns were released).

Conclusion: In the first two years of the war, the USSR lost about 4 times more tanks and self-propelled guns than Germany. At the same time, German troops spent most of this time offensive battles, and the German General Staff quite confidently planned offensives on a wide front, having, in fact, not 3 times more tanks than the enemy (“according to science”), but 3 times less.

Conclusion on the effectiveness of use: the German command used its tank forces 9 times more efficiently than the Soviet. But the final result shows that the Soviet command of the resources was still more.

[elmi]

It is embarrassing that the combat vehicle is protected worse than the old T-72B?
No matter how paradoxical it may sound, the protection variant “Contact-1” of the T-72B tank looks ... somehow preferable.
Installing the remote "Contact-1" on T-72B

Why are T-72B3 DZ blocks placed with such disregard?

And the matter is not even in the holes between the blocks, but in the openness of the tower shoulder strap, which on T-72B was covered with an additional belt of “Contact-1” blocks.
T-72B turret protection (Army of Belarus)

Why is the T-72B3 shoulder strap open to all winds?
Why can not make the most complete protection?
Breaking the tower below the blocks DZ T-72B (M). Xnumx Omsbr. The crew died. January 74

Protection of the roof of the tower - a separate issue.
Why was it so on T-72B?
Protection of the roof of the tower T-72B.

And it became so?
Protection of the roof of the tower T-72B3.

Who is interested - in more detail here: https: //www.yaplakal.com/forum2/st/75/topic
888358.html
http://super-arsenal.ru/blog/43462589350/T-72B3

[garx]

And I wrote the same thing! A tank is a weapon and it will not shoot itself, and the effectiveness of this weapon raises the crew. In the early 40s, there were few experienced tankers, and even if they were only in the Far East.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: kapitan92

Wehrmacht had about 6 tanks

Yes, this is the usual enemy "no remark" of the German allies. some ghouls of 1000 tanks "do not notice." other hundreds of thousands of Romanians and other Eurosiles "do not see."

[okko077]

A tank is an attack weapon. In police conflicts both in Syria and, if necessary, in Ukraine, it is very effective. For war with a high-tech adversary like the US, tanks are not needed. These are just targets, they need to be hidden away ... But no armor and active defense systems can be saved by tanks .. But with the advent of the T-14, tanks could return to the battlefield if they were an element in the system of Combat Information Systems. But we do not have such systems yet and there are no communication channels with the T-14 ... The T-14 tank is not needed to confront the United States, that is, without the creation of Combat Information Systems it will not be effective, like all others ... Judging in Syria and the Donbass and open press we do not have such systems, and they are not even being developed ...... We are waiting for 41 years in full growth and with the same consequences ....

[Viktor Kurganov]

Quote: okko077

A tank is an attack weapon. In police conflicts both in Syria and, if necessary, in Ukraine, it is very effective. For war with a high-tech adversary like the US, tanks are not needed. These are just targets, they need to be hidden away ... But no armor and active defense systems can be saved by tanks .. But with the advent of the T-14, tanks could return to the battlefield if they were an element in the system of Combat Information Systems. But we do not have such systems yet and there are no communication channels with the T-14 ... The T-14 tank is not needed to confront the United States, that is, without the creation of Combat Information Systems it will not be effective, like all others ... Judging in Syria and the Donbass and open press we do not have such systems, and they are not even being developed ...... We are waiting for 41 years in full growth and with the same consequences ....

On land, our tank troops have NO enemy. You write (sorry) such nonsense about the struggle of our tanks with the American. They will not be able to bring enough of this trash across the ocean, since all this will be drowned on the approach to the continent called Eurasia. And if something does happen, it will not be up to the transport of tanks to Europe. They will have so many problems at home with the restoration of survivors after nuclear strikes. And it will be inevitable if they get into a conflict with Russia.

[kapitan92]

Quote: voyaka uh

"And in general, where will you get 25 thousand tanks standing in armament and storage?" ///
I do not know ...
But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.
The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

As for 25 thousand T 72 at storage bases and in the Troops I doubt that 7144 T 72 B units are available in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. At stake is a purely economic and financial approach.
I’ll just remind you that the Israelis didn’t let the captured Soviet tanks abandoned by the Arabs, hundreds of captured Soviet T-54 and T-55 tanks were modernized in Israel - tanks called the Tiran-4 were made at Israeli military factories ”And“ Tiran-5 ”, heavy tracked armored personnel carriers“ Ahzarit ”.

They entered service with the Israeli army or were sold abroad.
It would be foolish to say that sanctions did not hit the economy and financing of programs, including in the field of rearmament of the RF Armed Forces, so at the moment, the rearmament of tank units with a modernized version of the T 72B3 looks like an absolutely logical step. T 90A entered service, though their number is about 400 pcs. leaves much to be desired, and they are concentrated in the west and south of Russia.
And then, they promise to put on the T 14 series from year to year, but that's another story.

[Lord of the Sith]

I add that from the presence in Iran, 150 T-90A were sold. You can also find on YouTube a video where Putin, visiting the UralVagonZavod, says that one of the Middle Eastern countries is ready to buy a T-90, and then sold it to Iran.
80 T-80s were bought back from South Korea for the Antarctic group.
As for the T-14, there will be 100 units (trial production batch) by 2020.

[Berkut24]

The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

... after which their tanks ended and the communists reached Berlin.

[Zibelew]

T-72B3 arr. 2016 year. It is reported that it was filmed on the M4 highway, 30-50 km to the border with Ukraine.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Zibelew

on the M4 highway, 30-50 km to the border with Ukraine.

So here you are now, Voentorg's shop ...

[Zibelew]

Quote: Paranoid50

So here you are now, Voentorg's shop

And why not find in the bushes ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: voyaka uh

But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.
The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

Now the situation is a little different. If we take the analogies from 1941, then in the warehouses we now have the T-34 mod. 41 (T-72A / B). In parts, until recently, there were the same T-34 arr. 41 and a little T-44 (T-90 - deliveries of 65 tanks per year). Now these T-34 arr. 41 are exchanged for T-34-85 (T-72B3). And they are testing T-54 (T-14).
And the "T-26" (now - T-55, T-62) even with the "furniture maker" were withdrawn from parts and are now disposed of or sent to Syria.

[Herman 4223]

It’s not the crowds of tanks fighting among themselves, but the military formations. An army with an army, divisions with divisions. Tanks are only the filler of these compounds, the overall superiority in quantity does not play a role here.

[Viktor Kurganov]

Quote: voyaka uh

"And in general, where will you get 25 thousand tanks standing in armament and storage?" ///
I do not know ...
But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.
The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

In any war, in THAT war is no exception, the main thing is not the amount of iron, aircraft, etc., but INTERACTION.
Interaction without communications, reconnaissance, and transportation cannot be improved. That’s what we had then ..... The defeat of the high command by Comrade Stalin, the fast and the furious in increasing the number of draftees, which affected the dilution of the junior command staff, poor training of the rank and file - these were the reasons for the terrible losses. In the film "Alive and Dead" (of course, this is only the author’s notions, but damn, so close to the truth!), An air battle was shown recently by the former lieutenant and suddenly became a high boss).
The Germans taught their pilots for years. And in the first 100 fights, they were not allowed to get involved in a fight. At the end of the war, of course, the situation for them changed dramatically. The results - our superheroes Kozhedub, Pokryshkin shot down 60-65 (I don’t remember exactly) planes, and Erich Hartmann - 352. When I first read this, for me these 65 became a completely different amount. SUCH knocked ours.

[co-creator]

Quote: viktor kurganov

The Germans taught their pilots for years. And in the first 100 fights, they were not allowed to get involved in a fight. At the end of the war, of course, the situation for them changed dramatically. The results - our superheroes Kozhedub, Pokryshkin shot down 60-65 (I don’t remember exactly) planes, and Erich Hartmann - 352. When I first read this, for me these 65 became a completely different amount. SUCH brought down by our

Again the tales of the Viennese forest. German combat losses of 88.000 aircraft, ours lost 35. Losses among pilots, we have the lowest of all countries, lower even than the United States. The Germans out of 000 pilots lost 57.000 killed - this is a sentence. True, it must be said that 47.000/2 of the German fighter aircraft were on the western front.

[wazza]

There were few fights on the western front and the planes were different. The main ones were interceptions of heavy bombers, mainly at night. Most of the Luftwaffe aces were knocked out in the Kuban air battle in the East.

[iConst]

Quote: voyaka uh

"And in general, where will you get 25 thousand tanks standing in armament and storage?" ///
I do not know ...
But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.
The Nazis attacked with 3,500 tanks and reached the Volga.

Where is the droushka?

According to the Institute of Military History of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the work "Combat and strength of the USSR armed forces during the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945. Statistical Bulletin No. 1 (June 22, 1941)"

T-26 data:

Total: 8747 of them
1st category (new, the fly did not sit) - 951
2nd category (serviceable, in operation) - 6436
3rd category (required repair. In the environment. Workshops) - 522
4th category (required rem. At the factory) - 838

Needless to say, the main breakdown of that time is the chassis. Therefore, from the number 8747 we subtract the 4th cat. and half 3rd.

Total serviceable tanks, according to an optimistic estimate, was 7648.
Further, counting on “heads” is completely meaningless - a lot of circumstances hindered effective counteraction:
- Soviet districts were not deployed - there were no corny crews for all cars.
- German aviation was in the air - Soviet was practically neutralized
- the orders of the General Staff forced the mechanized corps to make large transitions, and the chassis of the same KV-1/2 was very weak. Up to half of all cars were simply lost on maneuvers.

It is pointless to measure in parrots ...

And the Nazis almost reached Moscow. But in December of the 41st, they rolled back to 150 km.

[cost]

T-72B3 and T-72B4 - transition tanks

[KaPToC]

Quote: voyaka uh

But remember the year 1941. The Red Army was armed with more than 25 thousand tanks.
Of these, 12 thousand T-26.

Eleven people agree with you, that is, you are twelve people who do not see the difference between bulletproof and bulletproof armor. Yes, and with mathematics you are weak, where does such a luxury come from - 25 thousand tanks?

[You Vlad]

Quote: voyaka uh

voyaka uh

What was bad for you t 72?

[figwam]

This modification has protection for the stern and turret from the rear hemisphere and I like it.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: garx

T-90 and T-72 are slightly different tanks! And in general, where do you get 25 thousand T-72 standing in arms and storage? Although the T-90 is a deep modernization of the T-72, they have different tasks.

25 thousand T-72 standing in armament and storage

Russia has never had such a quantity, even with the collapse of the Union ...

Today in the active forces and in storage in the arsenals of the Russian army there are, according to various sources, the order of 21 000 – 22 000 tanks. Formally, as the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation speaks about this, the arsenal of domestic tank troops is three tank models: T-72, T-80 и T-90.
The Ministry of Defense does not give official data on the number of tanks of each model, but, according to independent sources, the total number of vehicles of all three models reaches 13 000 – 14 000 piecesbecause

Main tank T-72 Ural. Number of tanks in service: about 2000 units (approximately 7500 pieces are in storage)

VO site for 2015, https://topwar.ru/80995-kakie-tanki-stoyat-na-voo
ruzhenii-rossiyskoy-armii.html

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?
The amazing thing: India has the T-90, and Russia has the T-72 ...

It’s none of your business, you jerk here ..
We will have a tank fist in the western direction ..! Like good old times..

[Waf]

Quote: DEPARTMENT

It’s none of your business, you jerk here ..

Do not be rude! And then you complain that they offend you!

[Svarog51]

Vitaly is not rude, he has such a syllable.

[Waf]

Quote: Svarog51

Vitaly is not rude, he has such a syllable.

Type - "I do not swear, I speak on it"?

[Svarog51]

This is a question in the questionnaire: How many languages ​​do you speak?
- Tremi - Russian, commander and abusive.
- Commander and abusive - this is one and the same, write - two!

[Bronevick]

T-72 is cheaper than T-90, that's the whole secret. Armature in two three divisions will be all. T-72 will please us for a long time.

[cariperpaint]

why do you think so?)))

[Bronevick]

I have been living in this country for too long.

[cariperpaint]

and for this reason you are so confidently talking about arming the three divisions with new equipment?)))

[cariperpaint]

by and large it is one and the same. just 72 darkness and something needs to be done with them. and upgrading 72 to a new option is clearly easier and cheaper than building a new 90.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?

Because the T-90 for the same money will be three times less. We’ll deal with the Soviet legacy in parts (T-72A / B) - it will be possible to think about new cars.
Moreover, there is already a T-72B4.

[supertiger21]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?
The amazing thing: India has the T-90, and Russia has the T-72 ...

Nonsense ... the T-72B3 is a much better option than the T-90. Several times cheaper, but not much inferior in performance. Personally, I am very glad that before the start of mass production of Almaty, the basis will not be the 90s, but precisely the B3rd!

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?
The amazing thing: India has the T-90, and Russia has the T-72 ...

Yes, the 1 th TA could be re-equipped by the T-90, but the court divisions (Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya are armed with the T-72 and T-80)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D0%
B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B
0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B
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[_Ugene_]

It is impossible to endlessly improve the same Soviet tank. The modernization potential of this platform is almost exhausted. The stake is placed on a fundamentally new platform, which can be upgraded for several more decades. Lightly tailored T-72 for transition.

[DOCTOR ZLO]

Quote: _Ugene_

It is impossible to endlessly improve the same Soviet tank. The modernization potential of this platform is almost exhausted.

Of course, I would sprinkle ash on my head, but you won’t believe the Germans, British and Americans are doing the same ....
Moreover, the “empirialists" will have no transitional period, because a fundamentally new tank could be developed only by the Russian Federation ... and all other "progressive" countries will drive an infinitely many modernized tank ....

[opus]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why would the T-90 not supply its army?

need to upgrade T-72.

Modification developed as a cheap alternative to the T-90A until the Russian army received new generation tanks.

I myself don’t like a lot of things in “cheap” (though not special)


In the Poles zaguchali:

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: opus

In the Poles zaguchali:

And who is this average photo? Pshek, or what? Like Slavic erysipelas.

[opus]

Rafał Ciechanowski, lives in Inowroclaw

[Velizariy]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Pshek, or what? Like Slavic erysipelas.

Pshek slovenians ... And Czechs and Slovaks and many others, not only Russians.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Velizariy

Pshek slovenians ... And Czechs and Slovaks and many others, not only Russians.

Thanks, otherwise I didn’t know. Have you read about Lebensborn?

[Velizariy]

This is where the white-haired and blue-eyed children were taken from Slovenian mothers, and those who did not match the color of their hair and other signs were killed? Is there such nonsense of a sore head or do you want to say that the German racial theory is correct?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Velizariy

There is such nonsense of a sore head

AIF: The Secret of Lebensborn.
I do not see delirium.

Quote: Velizariy

or want to say that the racial theory of the Germans is true?

I want to say that the policy of Germanizing the Slavs was bearing fruit.

[Velizariy]

Bullshit is their racial theory. Based, by the way, on Zionist theory. If you look carefully, then one to one are similar.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Velizariy

Bullshit is their racial theory.

They believed in this nonsense. And I advise reading a series of articles in AiF, very curious.

[Velizariy]

Ukrainians also believe and our Rodnovers (proto-vedors) also believe, the same theory only in profile, even the Aryans remained, only not the Germans but the Slovens))

[Velizariy]

Botevgrad was repaired, unknowingly, the atom was in full swing yesterday at rush hour)))

[PARTIZAN MOJAKHEDOVICH]

What do you want !? Count your mercenaries.

[Vladimirets]

As I hear about the entry of tanks into the troops, I immediately remember.

[pjastolov]

Respect for anecdote

[Svarog51]

Eugene, Respect, a cool joke, but at the end the promise of the next joke sounds. I really want to hear.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Svarog51

I really want to hear

Yes please.

[Svarog51]

Eugene, many thanks, had fun from the heart. One question, your nickname is the city of Vladimir?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Svarog51

Is your nickname the city of Vladimir?

Vladimir province.

[Svarog51]

Countrymen we are with you. Ivanovo

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Svarog51

Ivanovo.

Hello to the neighbors.

[Svarog51]

And you and your family health!

[NIKNN]

This is truly a masterpiece !!! Thank!!!

[pjastolov]

Well, I’m generally not special in tanks, but it wasn’t better to send money from modernization to production of valves, or again sawing?

[Waf]

Quote: pjastolov

Well, I’m generally not special in tanks, but it wasn’t better to send money from modernization to production of valves, or again sawing?

Serial production of the new generation T-14 Armata tanks is due to begin in 2018, Oleg Sienko, general director of Uralvagonzavod, told reporters.

[Don]

Quote: pjastolov

Well, I’m generally not special in tanks, but it wasn’t better to send money from modernization to production of valves, or again sawing?

The situation is like this. The President set the task of modernizing the army to 70% with modern weapons until 20. Since this year, the budget of the Moscow Region has been cut differently from 5 to 27 percent, but no one has removed the task. How should the MO solve this problem? That's right, by modernizing obsolete weapons to a modern level instead of purchasing the latest technology. They do it right or not, we don’t know, because we do not have complete intelligence of the plans of the probable adversary.

[pjastolov]

full intelligence of the plans of the probable adversary.

- are those who saw?

[Viktor Kurganov]

Quote: pjastolov

Well, I’m generally not special in tanks, but it wasn’t better to send money from modernization to production of valves, or again sawing?

Not better. The same amount of funds will be spent on one Armata as on three to five T-72 upgrades. But the T-72 is quite a decent piece of iron, which today has no enemy. Especially considering their number and the fact that any enemy, if it is the size of Ukraine, will simply be erased by conventional weapons, if it is the size of NATO, it will be destroyed by tactical nuclear weapons. Everything is done with minimal cost. When the potential enemy has something better than the T-72, and this is five to eight years, we will have a sufficient number of these super tanks.

[opus]

Quote: viktor kurganov

The same amount of funds will be spent on one Armata as on three to five T-72 upgrades. But the T-72 is a pretty decent piece of hardware, which today has no enemy.

more.
at 2013 prices

The representative of UVZ emphasized that of the 52 million rubles that the T-72Б-3 upgrade costs, about 30 million go to the tank overhaul - the machines are completely disassembled, inspected all parts and replaced outdated with new ones. The remaining money is spent on modernization - the purchase and installation of new equipment and other complexes that the customer chose.

it’s true with the “uncapitalized” old B-84 engine on 840 hp

[UVB]

I am not a tanker, but even I can see that half of the frontal projection of the tower is not protected by dynamic protection. Is this not sabotage?

[cariperpaint]

This is an old photo. take a look at the parade. those are from new deliveries

[Internet fighter]

The BMPD blog has a good-quality photo of the T-72B3 from the parade rehearsal - bmpd.livejournal.com/2533332.html (photos are clickable).

[voyaka uh]

Better, but not enough.
The sides of Merkava are completely covered by mounted metal-ceramic
panels. And such panels are holding Kummu - they are shattered, but they are holding. The gaps between the panels are a few millimeters. But there were cases in Lebanon that the jet passed into the joints,
damaging only the edges of the panels and piercing the armor under the panels.

[cariperpaint]

that's what is funny for me 72 I never got caught in the service))) how they put me in school 80 and stayed with them)))

[Svarog51]

As I envy you with white envy, I should at least stroke the armor on them with my palm, but apparently not fate.

[cariperpaint]

it's a matter of habit)))

[Svarog51]

You are lucky, but I am not. He came close to tanks once in a lifetime - in Kubinka. I’ve been dreaming all my life.

[cariperpaint]

let's just say, personally, I had no choice) and I didn’t look for it) we went to the park just so that after school to climb tanks) children))) our military town is right in the center of the city) though the tanks are now out of town.

[Svarog51]

I would at least like that, I really like them. And to sit behind the levers is not scary to die.

[cariperpaint]

Yes, in the same Moscow you can ride without difficulties))) a lot of companies provide such services) though there are 62 and quite expensive but I think a lot of impressions can be obtained)

[Svarog51]

He’s late already, it’s good that the doctors let him drive, who will trust me with the tank? And so I want!

[cariperpaint]

it is paid) I think they will not ban)

[Svarog51]

I will try to follow your advice. Let's see what happens

[113262a]

Welkom to Lugansk for the summer! It will be interesting ... and hot! Tank rides guaranteed! Right, all the same 72! Tuzhu for about. 219 rub

[Holoy]

Well, who is there we found such a "smart" in the Moscow Region and the military-industrial complex ??? Well done Cho, they sold the old crumbling, which burns like a torch under the pretext of saving ... I wonder how many rollbacks they take from the modernizers? Well, modernize ...

[cariperpaint]

What kind of bullshit?

[Малый]

Good evening! Everyone ... I would like to add 72 a good car ... firstly, all reservists are well acquainted with him .. and crews and techies ... etc. T14 crude all problems will be revealed only by long-term operation .... and as for the availability of tanks (matte word) of the USSR before the war in the western direction, yes they were before (word obscene) but !!! Most of them were not ready for war because of the lack of spare parts for shells ... and so on, in fact, there are tanks, but they couldn’t go anywhere ... and given the low qualifications of the crews and our fraud of the command staff above those who were in danger of reprisals before the war ... in the year 40 there was a check in the tank units near the border that revealed a low readiness of the entire fleet of vehicles to engage in battle from the march ... lack of fuel for the rights of spikes .. low speed of tractors towing guns, etc. ) t9 ... Google state memories Pod yourself! If there is a mess now, what do you want more than 70 years ago?

[Holoy]

Quote: Small

Everyone ... I would like to add 72 a good car ... firstly, all reservists are well acquainted with him .. and crews and techies ...

These reservists in Grozny ... who didn’t burn out will bypass the T-72 for a long time

[TOR2]

Of course, the modernization of the B3 was carried out on the basis of the principle "the wealthier, the happier." Apparently, the customers were sure that the theater of operations could only be oversaturated with RPG-7 (or its analogues) and no more. Events in Syria completely refute this. And after some videos from there, the modernization of the B3 generally looks very faded.

Quote: UVB

I am not a tanker, but even I can see that half of the frontal projection of the tower is not protected by dynamic protection. Is this not sabotage?

The fact is that the need to develop a universal module for protecting equipment from various ATGMs has long overdue. And we have either nothing at all, or fixation on the “Arena” and its analogs.
In 2009 The Scientific Research Institute of Computing Tools and Control Systems developed a remote control system for the T-72. This development would be just right for the B3. Such a tank can be used with or without a crew. Now, in the shortest time, it is necessary to develop a universal complex of optoelectronic suppression that could be installed, for example, on the T-72, on the BMP1 or on the new Typhoons.

Otherwise, all these B3 will be burned up in the first serious battle, and the money for modernization will simply be thrown into the wind, or rather into the fire.

[faterdom]

Quote: Sith Lord

80 T-80s were bought back from South Korea for the Antarctic group.

Oh how! Will we also pull the Antarctic grouping? They say that there is a nightmare. And the temperature up to -88 sometimes happens.

[urman]

And t34 we will beat in the face,
and then ask what they wanted?

[soul]

Kozhedub, Pokryshkin shot down at 60-65, and their Erich Hartmann - 352

The Germans kept records of those shot down differently. For example, one twin-engine was equal to two pieces. And they kept the score from the beginning of the 30s (Balkans)

[Velizariy]

Quote: alma

one twin-engine equaled two pieces

Such hopeless tupezh for the truth to give out, while so affirmative! It's like getting up at a meeting of power engineers and saying that the wires are made of wood! Yes Yes! Made of wood.
If only he would open a little book ...

[Young_Communist]

The press service reported that the upgraded T-72B3 are equipped with a more powerful engine in 1130 horsepower, as well as an improved weapon system. The car received a new aiming system with a digital display, as well as a television rear-view camera. The changes also affected the armor of the tank, which is reinforced by onboard screens with dynamic protection modules "Relic", hinged lattice screens, as well as new dynamic protection modules in a "soft" case.

And in the pess service they said why religion forbids them to close the hole in the frontal projection of the DZ?

[alexmach]

It seems to be closed above the mechanical drive. Remained the roof of the tower.

[Vladimir Gorbunov]

When the armata will go into series

[Young_Communist]

Quote: alexmach

It seems to be closed above the mechanical drive. Remained the roof of the tower.