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Is it true that KAMAZ failed the state task of creating a domestic platform for mobile ground-based missile systems (PGRK)?

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  1. svp67 Rank
    svp67
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    13 May 2017 18: 20
    It is not regrettable, but after February 23, 2014 there is no other way, for your army you need to produce MAXIMUM on your territory and from your materials. So sorry sabras
    1. Herat Rank
      Herat
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      14 May 2017 10: 33
      Kamaz can it be that he himself can create? It can only use what others will come up with, so this KAMAZ caterpillar is stillborn or another small cut.
      1. svp67 Rank
        svp67
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        14 May 2017 10: 37
        Quote: Herat
        Amaz can it be that he himself can create?

        So take it and teach ... Weak?
        Quote: Herat
        another small cut.

        HOW WOULD YOU WANT?
        1. Herat Rank
          Herat
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          14 May 2017 10: 43
          Quote: svp67
          So take it and teach ... Weak?

          nonsense you say.
    2. Herat Rank
      Herat
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      14 May 2017 10: 42
      why is it so unfortunate to you, and why is there no “way out”? The MZKT uses a lot of our equipment in its designs, so the rejection of the Belarusian tractors will hit primarily the YaMZ. The gap between Russia and Belarus is a planned sabotage, and your words are hypocrisy.
  2. Moore Rank
    Moore
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    13 May 2017 18: 43
    Motor wheels, if they still bring to mind, suggest the presence of an additional diesel generator. IMHO, it will be structurally a completely different APU,
  3. APASUS Rank
    APASUS
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    13 May 2017 18: 53
    Good video to the material!
    Man convinces himself that everything is fine, everything will be fine, everything will be fine! What he didn’t tell about. What are the problems, design flaws revealed or weakness of the industrial base, lack of mushrooms makes itself felt?
    In addition to the problems that arose with the motor-wheel system, designers also proposed a modular system, from which the location of the engine behind the cab and a number of innovations.
    In fact, the car turned out to be more technologically advanced than its predecessor, but has not yet found its final form, children's diseases are treated, but how much will it take? .....
    1. DOCTOR ZLO Rank
      DOCTOR ZLO
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      13 May 2017 19: 09
      Here the news was already about KAMAZ tractors, and I laid out a line of tractors from BAZ ....
      I heard from periodicals, MZKT, one of not many enterprises of the Republic of Belarus, which has a standing order, they work almost in three shifts ....
  4. Anton Yu Rank
    Anton Yu
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    13 May 2017 19: 13
    The platform has already sunk in the years, but articles about it are scribbling and scribbling.
  5. andr327 Rank
    andr327
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    13 May 2017 20: 04
    Alas, the plot is not about anything.
  6. HEATHER Rank
    HEATHER
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    13 May 2017 20: 51
    It seems like they sucked it up a couple of days ago. I don’t know how to do it, but I don’t like this all-terrain vehicle. The direct cabin in relation to the Belarussians is to increase the length of the train by 4-6 meters. Maneuverability and anyway will be even worse. Yes, put at least 2000- strong diesel. Where with such a muzzle stick.
  7. altur75 Rank
    altur75
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    15 May 2017 09: 45
    Well, as they say, the process is ongoing. And so it should be. Because Old Man is no longer trusted. And there is progress in the development. Three years ago, there were no motor wheels or independent suspension — there was an ordinary multi-axle centipede with a hydromechanical transmission and dependent suspension — something like a chassis for heavy road construction equipment.
    Motor wheels - this is a controversial decision, and it is possible that the further development of the project rests on them (except for the political factor, which at one time killed the KZKT). The motor wheels themselves are nothing new - they were used more than 100 years ago at the dawn of motorization. The decisive advantage of this solution is the lack of mechanical connections between the wheels, which increases the survivability of this kind of technology when passing incompletely cleared sections of roads and firing from small arms; minus - the motor-wheel is almost two times heavier than usual, because in addition to the usual planetary gearbox, the hub kit also includes an electric motor in a closed design (with its own cooling system in the form of an oil jacket, a pump and outputs to a common oil cooler), in addition, a modern electric transmission In addition to completely reliable motor wheels and a diesel generator, it also includes very non-living and capricious units - a rectifier and a frequency converter, plus this requires control via an on-board computer.
    So there are really many problems with technical solutions in this project. But, apparently, there is still time to solve them - so far the project exists mainly in order to pull the nerves of Old Man. Because for putting it into production it is not so much necessary - the chassis in fact is an ordinary locomotive put on the wheels of an off-road tractor.
  8. Litsvin
    Litsvin
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    10 June 2017 19: 50
    Expert, and where is the answer to the question? :) The question was whether it was not a stillborn child who sawed it. And he tells how bad father is and pours water.
    PS MZKT is not a huge plant. It is relatively compact (it was not once on it and I know what I'm talking about, unlike the "expert"). Previously, it was all under the same name MAZ, then allocated to a separate plant. Well, I wanted to remind the expert who created KAMAZ, if the memory does not change the specialists from MAZ and all the development technologies were transferred and the personnel at MAZ were trained, but then it was one country.