"The right to vote", the West and Russia

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Watch the program "The Right to Vote" is still interesting: it happens, you will hear some numbers and beautiful pearls. Especially from our Polish, Baltic and other Western "partners", as in the transfer from 04.05.2017. Moreover, they do not notice how they are substituted at the same time, and our solidly scientific experts can never really use this, something is stopping them or something is missing. Our experts always look like cats Leopolds, appealing to the conscience of insolent and provocateurs.

"The right to vote", the West and Russia




Take, for example, the “political break-up” used by the political scientists-limitritos of the “occupation” of their countries by Soviet Russia. Here you can see that their "occupation" occurred simultaneously with the defeat of Nazi Germany and the liberation of its occupied territories. But if they consider themselves "occupied", then they recognize their countries as satellites of Nazi Germany, and then Russia really occupied them by right of victory, especially since the military forces of the Baltic states participated in the war on the side of Nazi Germany and in punitive operations against the peaceful Russian population . And Poland as a country did not exist, it was a German province.

Then the "occupation" is the result of the Second World War, in which Russia won and had the right to deal with the territories occupied as a result of the fighting with the enemy as it considered necessary.

And how was Russia-the USSR supposed to do, according to limitrofs? Give the territory watered abundantly soldier's blood, under the control of the United States? By the way, this happened as soon as they got rid of the “Russian occupation”. Russian experts confine themselves to mentioning that during the liberation of Poland, for example, hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers were killed. On what limitrofy humanely smiling and silent.

For some reason, our professors are embarrassed to say about the disintegration of the anti-Hitler coalition and the beginning of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, the nuclear arms race, which excluded the abstract independence of the limiting countries, and today the opposition of the US and the whole West with Russia, China, and the non-Western world in general, excludes the abstract independence almost all countries of the world.

By the way, today the West, the United States and NATO, are also occupying the former countries of the Soviet bloc, with the incorporation of weapons into their economic and military structures. The independence of the countries-limitrofov is a dependence on the USA. Freedom limitrofov - it is the freedom to fall to the American trough. Freedom to sell to someone who is richer and seems stronger. The United States was richer than the USSR, and it was not possible to get at once to them, there was no independence, that’s what seems to be the unspoken reason for the Limitrophes Russophobia ... But today they miscalculated: Western occupation turned out to be worse than the Russian one.

If Russia invested in the Soviet republics, then the West is economically depleting its new-found colonies: Western occupation is not Russian charity. The industry is almost destroyed, and the population so quickly leaves the "independent" countries-limitrofy that already extinction loomed.

Another pearl that is constantly used: the “annexation of the Crimea”, and the “aggression” of Russia in Ukraine in general, changed the situation in Europe, the Baltic countries and Poland, and Romania felt a threat to their independence, and therefore they are deploying NATO and US weapons on their territory. This is despite the fact that the military budget of Russia in 12 is less than the budget of NATO, and by itself says who claims to be the aggressor in Europe.

Our experts, in response, sometimes recall the annexation of Kosovo by the West, however, they forget to say why the West took Kosovo? The United States immediately built the region’s largest military base there.

Bandera Ukraine is, in fact, the second Kosovo, only the United States annexed a coup, tearing it away from Russia, and in the Crimea they also intended to deploy a military base: US Vice President Joe Biden publicly cried that Russia had thwarted such an excellent plan to create an American base in Crimea. Our experts do not know this, or feel free to say? Talking about the "annexation of the Crimea" is still an attempt to create a US and NATO base in the Crimea, after handing it over to Bandera Ukraine. Russia has the right to consider these plans as aggression, and the coup in Kiev is an annexation by the West of Ukraine.

On the other hand, the limitrophe justify the Bandera regime, the genocide of the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, Odessa Khatyn, and become his accomplices, join his anti-Russian policy. And they become unfriendly to Russia countries, with all the ensuing economic consequences. However, the marches of the Waffen SS in Riga say that they are most likely from a single berry field.

For some reason, it does not take into account that limitrofy are not only members of the NATO bloc, but also minor vassals of the USA Will the United States defend such vassals in the event of a conflict with Russia? Not a fact, but these conflicts themselves are unlikely, since Russia is opposed to the whole West.

However, in the event of a conflict between the US and Russia, NATO and US military facilities in the border countries of Russia will be subjected to a primary strike from Russia. In fact, the countries of the limitrofy are US military outposts, countries-military bases, military facilities on their territory will be destroyed by Russia, primarily in the event of a global conflict. Given the size of these countries, this will have irreparable consequences for their existence. They will become a battlefield ... The United States is profitable, since they themselves, as it were, are insured against the first strike, but for limitroffs this is a complete disaster.

Limitrophs have a probability of a conflict with Russia - 1%, and the probability that they will become the object of a Russian strike in a global conflict is 99%. And who after this their elite? Either traitors of the interests of their countries, or American managers, who are preparing the countries of limitation for slaughter in the first days of the war.

Some hope to survive in possible world shocks to limiting countries could be given a neutral status, a policy pursued by Switzerland, Finland, Sweden. But, since in reality limitrofy are colonies, they have no right to influence their fate by definition.

American strategists say periodically about a preventive disarming global strike, but much worse, that these plans are confirmed by the creation of a missile defense system around the perimeter of Russia and China. If the US missile defense system presents a real danger to Russia and China, then a global disarming strike will become possible, Russia and China will have no choice but to deliver a preventive disarming attack on the US missile defense, and other US attack potential, which is partially located in limitrofs.

An alternative would be to raise the issue of dismantling the missile defense system by the Americans. By analogy with the Caribbean crisis, when Russia-USSR removed missiles from Cuba. But will the missile defense system remove Washington? If not, then a new Caribbean crisis with unpredictable development and an end is guaranteed.

At the VO forum, the question was: what is the point of Western and pro-Western political scientists on the Russian central channels? He probably is. It is useful for our viewer to personally see Russophobes, it is useful to know what they look like. How they hide their nature behind false compliments, because of which the “red fascists” still look out, no matter how they hide them.

On the other hand, these russophobes become part of the “Russian propaganda” alongside Roman Babayan. And for “Russian propaganda” they become evidence that it is in fact a free press. While the Western media are free to write only on a given topic, and you will not see Russian political analysts there.
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  1. +10
    10 May 2017 06: 22
    Watching the program “Voting Right” is still interesting
    Alas, Victor ... I’m not interested ... at one time I watched all the political talk shows, but I got bored with the “freaks” from both sides, called “experts”, “directors of institutes”, etc. commonplace verbiage, not transmission. as if there are no normal, sane people, and some patients Kashchenko ....
    1. +3
      10 May 2017 07: 20
      Quote: Author: Victor Kamenev
      It is useful for our viewer to personally see Russophobes, it is useful to know how they look.

      Yes, but not in the same amounts on all major channels.

      When a Russophobe-Bandera or Russophobe-grant-eater openly lies or directly insults Russia and Russians, his lie is often not something that is not exposed, it is skipped, that is, it goes out, it is recognized as truth by both the host and the experts (for the most part - "experts"). In this form, it is in no way useful television, but Russophobian television with all the signs of occupation.

      Since when has lie become an opinion?
      Since when did outright lies become a way of arguing?

      PS. By the way, Matseychuk, as if nothing had happened, continues to go on TV.
      After the departure of Tolstoy and others, the Ernst channel turned into an open bottom. I tried to watch a political show with two presenters there, so these clowns screamed so much, interrupting each other that they themselves could not be made out.
      In Babayan, lies are skipped more often than in many, because he invites such a large number of Russophobes constantly screaming in his program that he is simply not able to even physically answer everything with the “experts”. For what purpose is he doing this?
      1. +5
        10 May 2017 08: 36
        Representatives of the "independent" states are quite understandable and explainable in their Russophobia. Money must be worked out. But here are the domestic representatives of the “fifth column” .... And this is not just expressing one’s opinion (to which, naturally, everyone has the right). This is a deliberate throw-in of anti-Russian, anti-national propaganda .. It is interesting to know in which country it is permissible to make insults and explicit anti-state appeals, outright lies and denigrating historical events and processes on a multimillion-dollar audience. I think that even in countries apologizing for “true democratic values” such ugliness and mockery of their own country would not be allowed! am stop angry
        1. +1
          12 May 2017 09: 06
          Representatives of the "independent" states are quite understandable and explainable in their Russophobia. Money must be worked out.

          I would not openly underestimate these representatives of the Western media and others.
          They truly believe in what they say. And it’s not at all a fact what kind of money. They HAVE THE LAW in their point of view. (After all, the world is made up of halftones, not black and white.)
          And if we consider ourselves civilized people, we must be able to listen to them and be able to refute them. Which is what the author does.

          My 5 copecks in a piggy bank.
          It often sounds like Russia supports the tyrant Assad.
          I have no idea if he is a tyrant or not, it makes no difference to me, but ....
          1. In the east, almost all rulers are tyrants. The specifics of the region!
          2. Russia supports not Assad, Syrian statehood (I would like this simple thought to sound from the lips of experts). Just as the Russian people support not Putin, Russian statehood. Russian people are generally strong in their state. For only a strong state can guarantee nations
          their rights and freedoms (oddly enough this sounds to liberals). Without a state, no one will have any rights or freedoms.
          I do not like Putin and I do not consider him even just an intelligent person, but ... attempts to push Putin off in a non-democratic way are fraught with the collapse of the state. And this is scary. And that’s exactly what drives people when they don’t go to Bolotnaya and other areas together with our “free-thinking” people. It is too easy to splash out the baby with water. In the 90s already seen enough.
      2. +2
        10 May 2017 08: 45
        In this form, it is in no way useful television, but Russophobian television with all the signs of occupation.


        What does "not useful" mean? There is advertising, time is for sale. If without a scandal - who will look? And the level of training of "experts" should be simpler. And the scuffle will not hurt. Otherwise, why is this action? They learn at school, they seek truth in science, television makes money. Now only like that. sad
        In a word, everything is like on our site. lol
      3. 0
        10 May 2017 12: 58
        Kuzichev is no worse than Tolstoy. Shaynin just on emotions.
      4. 0
        11 May 2017 22: 51
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        In Babayan, lies are skipped more often than in many, because he invites such a large number of Russophobes constantly screaming in his program that he is simply not able to even physically answer everything with the “experts”. For what purpose is he doing this?

        The presenter of the program is the same employee as the operator or sound engineer. The number of ghouls on the program sets the channel guide. Babayan, maybe, plays a significant role on the channel, but the decision is made, nevertheless, by other people. And this will continue until the ratings fall below an acceptable level. This is all a commercial show, there will never be consent. It is for this purpose that it turns in order to entertain people (not to educate). Want to have no maceychuk on your screen? Stop watching programs with his participation ...
    2. 0
      10 May 2017 09: 34
      "The right to vote" ... from. From May 1 to May 9, something of this right somehow did not exist, like other similar ones, who were behind the same “rights” on TV. Take a walk Russia will give a couple of regime "servants of the people from the State Duma." laughing "The people rejoice and sings" (from I. Glinka - "Railway"). winked
    3. +5
      10 May 2017 11: 40
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Watching the program “Voting Right” is still interesting
      Alas, Victor ... I’m not interested ... at one time I watched all the political talk shows, but I got bored with the “freaks” from both sides, called “experts”, “directors of institutes”, etc. commonplace verbiage, not transmission. as if there are no normal, sane people, and some patients Kashchenko ....

      I don’t look either - I'm tired of it, but I really want to get on the air and gouge the scoreboard to some sort of banderlog or a joint Pole with them. One thing is not clear to me because these dodges violate our legislation (inciting ethnic hatred, for example) - why do these wormwoods pancake wander around Ostankino as guests and NOT BY BOOTTER AS WORKING COCKERS !!!!
      1. 0
        11 May 2017 03: 35
        This program, and others like that, reveals the “inside out of the“ rotten “liver” (the liver is a liberal), and the vile and corrupt little souls of the Pshek, Okrainskiy and Chukhon immoral “girls” who base their “dialogues” about “truth” and “theories” about Russia and its "king" - on lies, sometimes often paid by NATO centers for the information war with Russia, in Warsaw, Riga, Prague and other cities, which were massively opened there in 13-15 years. At least the notorious “jellyfish” appeared in the 14th, at the same time as the Riga “center”, and 100% exists with money from the messenger.
        I think u reasonable the Russian audience "voting rights", and other other TV shows, developed a persistent antidote and antipathy to these "maydanuty, gray and dirty" personalities - special "thank you"frantic okram.
  2. +2
    10 May 2017 06: 28
    Yes, the author very accurately noted how they conduct * discussions * on the part of RUSSIA. All the time it’s conciliatory and obligatory on * you *, even with outright scoundrels. There, even when Weller lied with inspiration and vileness, and then also threw a glass at Babayan, it caused nothing but laughter. It’s a pity that neither Poles nor other Czech Germans are poked into what they themselves do. From the side of * free Europe * the show resembles gopniks who try to reduce everything to * concepts *, and these concepts even change for themselves very often.
    1. +5
      10 May 2017 06: 39
      Quote: Vasily50
      It’s a pity that neither Poles nor other Czech Germans are poked into what they themselves do.

      Well, in fairness, it should be noted that the Pole was once given to a mug .... But only once .....


      Oh, I’m lying, this little one got its snout again. The truth is already in another studio
      1. +7
        10 May 2017 08: 05
        Quote: Smog
        this zhek once again got into the snout. The truth is already in another studio

        The Poles have a tradition in the face to receive.
        1. +6
          10 May 2017 08: 24
          Alexander! With the past! And the tradition is many centuries old!
      2. 0
        10 May 2017 14: 47
        Ah yes well done !!! How beautifully and worthily HE answered the Pole!
  3. +3
    10 May 2017 06: 49
    These talk shows are something unique. Scream, noise, no one is listening to anyone. Arguments at the populist level, and even no one perceives them. Rare sane guests look like a confirmation of the saying "Do not argue with fool * ak, otherwise people will not notice the difference"
  4. +3
    10 May 2017 06: 52
    I do not watch these pig shows. am They shout, they interrupt opponents, they speak all together. Totally non-authoritative and vile types. Leading are to match them. And other .... Let them look for fools in the mirror. wink
    1. 0
      10 May 2017 07: 46
      Quote: populist
      I do not watch these pig shows.

      Cord well "stuck" these talk shows in the clip monkey and eagle. good
      1. 0
        10 May 2017 09: 31
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: populist
        I do not watch these pig shows.

        Cord well "stuck" these talk shows in the clip monkey and eagle. good

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYlm5w_d8Kc
        -Do not thank ... and yes: carefully-mat .... The cord is ... lol
  5. +3
    10 May 2017 07: 52
    As a child, we played in the courtyard a game called "Red and Blue." It differed from ordinary little ones in that the yard was divided into two parts, we were divided into two teams and, naturally, the members of one could only master the members of the other. It was just a game like that. We all studied at the same school, and everyone was friends with each other.
    I mean, the programs on our TV are made precisely on this principle. Before us are no Russophobes, often they say practical things, sometimes they teach at our universities, work in our newspapers and other media. In their countries they are considered leftists or eccentrics. But they are a gateway to carrying out ideas that corrode society, sowing seeds of doubt, discontent, and deception. What have we done, the general mobilization of the population for the conduct of the information war, and everyone knows what to do and what to fear? Yes, we still have TV - this is a window into the world for 50-60% of the population. The proliferation of the Internet and IT-technologies ran into a wall beyond which neither one nor the other can simply exist due to objective reality, which consists in the absence of conditions for existence. It is on this environment that the propaganda of the West and the USA is designed today. Bit by bit, grain by grain, arouse doubts in her: "maybe everything is in order in Ukraine, well, are there people from there?"; "Why is such a handsome young man in the face, but with his fist, he said hotly"; “grandfather told me how the red commanders beat him for a bag of potatoes”, “oh, but I read that the Vlasovites, they entered the ROA for the stew from the concentration camps, did not kill anyone ...”, and so on. So it was in Ukraine. So it can be with us.
    I am against the war in all its manifestations, including in the field of information! But I am against the idea that our society will gradually impose some ideas and concepts that may ultimately overturn its worldview and destroy it through division and separation. After all, this has already happened during the years of "perestroika and glasnost" and it is known how it ended. A drop of water, as they say, sharpen a stone. It is necessary to revise the format of such programs, there should not be a double perception of events.
  6. +5
    10 May 2017 08: 22
    As I.Stalin would say, I have no other Babayans for you. Claims to these political shows are largely fair, but if we compare what happened before, the progress is obvious: they began to give tambourines! And Moscow was not built right away ...
    1. +2
      10 May 2017 08: 30
      give progress to the tambourine? Now, if such scum were not invited to the studio, but arrested and imprisoned # - this would be progress.
      all these chat-shows - in general, I think nonsense.
    2. +2
      10 May 2017 08: 32
      Quote: Victor Kamenev
      progress is obvious: after all, they began to give a tambourine!

      This is still the liberated media. Just against the background of frankly Russophobic, homegrown - they look decent.
      Hence the answer to the question posed by the author: "... And they do not notice how they are substituted, and our reputable scientific experts can never use this plainly ...". And do not take advantage - the raven will not peck out the raven's eye.
      1. +1
        10 May 2017 13: 02
        I agree. Our "solid scientific experts" are from the same apple tree, therefore they mumble.
  7. +1
    10 May 2017 13: 12
    Well, our expert talkers resemble propagandists from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. In addition to quotes from the Pravda editorials, they cannot say anything intelligible. Political correctness in relation to miscarriages from Ukraine, sprat limitrophs and undivided flats should be discarded for a long time and “run into” them with a full measure of their responsibility. Carry out "SS Veteran Marches" - means the allies of the Nazis! So you were treated like Nazi allies and there’s nothing to cheat! Poles, barking about Katyn, and you still haven’t answered for 40 -60 of thousands of dead Red Army soldiers in 1920, you owe me a favor !!!
  8. +1
    10 May 2017 18: 07
    Quote: Ironstop
    Kuzichev is no worse than Tolstoy. Shaynin just on emotions.

    A little more and these presenters will drive away the audience from their programs. All of us about Ukraine and Syria are talking.
    There is no reason to consider their problems, they tell us in 3 of the year which Bandera people are bad, that without them everyone knows.