Latvian referendum. The majority of citizens are against Russian as the second state language.

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Latvian referendum. The majority of citizens are against Russian as the second state language.At the referendum held in Latvia, the majority of citizens voted against the Russian language as the second state language. According to the data compiled by the CEC, currently obtained from the 653 polling stations (1035 was opened in total), 77,75% voted against the constitutional amendments.

As ITAR-TASS news agency reported yesterday, 21,98% of citizens were in favor of introducing Russian as the second state language in Latvia. Another 0,27% of ballots turned out to be invalid. The end of the processing of preliminary results of the referendum is planned for today.

The Latvian President A. Berzins, the Prime Minister V. Dombrovskis and the Speaker of the Seimas S. Aboltini voted against the fact that the Russian language would receive the status of the second state.

The Native Language Society, which initiated the referendum, however, assesses the voting results as a victory. Hilarion Girs, one of the representatives of the organization, said: “The referendum rallied the Russian-speaking community of the republic. Now we are waiting for a response from the second side. If the answer is adequate and there is a suggestion for dialogue, readiness to reconsider the status of the Russian language and solve the problem of education, this will be a good signal. If not, we will continue to protest. ”

According to Vladimir Linderman, one of the initiators of the referendum held, about three hundred thousand Latvians should vote in support of the Russian language. This, of course, will not be enough to give the Russian language the status of a second state, but Russian-speaking residents of the country will continue to fight for their rights. Linderman said that everything will be within the law, but the struggle will continue.

As previously reported, a referendum was held on Saturday in Latvia on granting Russian the status of a second state language. The referendum was attended by 69,23% of citizens, that is, 1.069.759 residents of the country. Nine hundred and fifty polling stations were opened on the territory of the republic, and in addition, eighty-five were involved abroad. The voters were asked to answer the question: “Are you in favor of adopting the draft law“ Amendments to the Constitution of the Republic of Latvia ”, which provides for establishing the status of a second state for the Russian language?” The voter could choose one of two answer options: “For” or “Against”.

The referendum was held in a calm atmosphere, without incident. There were no significant violations.

The initiative to hold this referendum was the Native Language Society. The referendum proposal was a response to the actions of the Latvian radicals who organized a collection of signatures for translating all state Russian schools into the Latvian language of instruction. In December last year, the Latvian Diet by a majority vote opposed granting Russian the status of a second state, but regardless of this decision, this issue should have been put up for a referendum. In order for Russian to become the second state language, over 770 thousand citizens (half of the voters) had to vote “For”.

More than two million people live in Latvia. Russian-speaking population is about forty percent. It should be noted that about 320 thousands of "non-citizens" had no right to participate in the referendum: after the separation of Latvia from the Soviet Union, they were deprived of citizenship, and at the same time the right to vote.
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  1. General
    +15
    19 February 2012 12: 05
    the result did not surprise
    1. +1
      19 February 2012 12: 11
      And then you shouldn't be surprised, simple arithmetic. It turns out that all Russian-speakers were supposed to come to the referendum, BUT, minus the "non-citizens" temporarily absent from work, etc. Labuses just figured out on a calculator and were calm like boas.
    2. Tambovskiy Volk
      -9
      19 February 2012 12: 58
      Quote: General

      the result did not surprise

      Or maybe in Azerbaijan to hold a referendum on the issue of Russian and Armenian?
      1. +5
        19 February 2012 15: 54
        I don’t know about Azerbaijan. But in Ukraine, a language referendum should be held. But the authorities are afraid. As if the "project" is not covered ...
      2. ruaben
        +2
        19 February 2012 22: 48
        in Ukraine, everyone has equal citizenship !!!!! and people are not divided into citizens and half-citizens !!!! and although officially 1 language, two are fully used. we have a bunch of Tatars, Hungarians and so on do not know a word in Ukrainian and have citizenship.
        Excuse the site modders but again I will offend reptiles !!! how such scum as Novodvorskaya and a bunch of dissenting bastards can say "the hand of the Kremlin brings confusion into a peaceful dermokr. country" !!! Well ..... how can you forget your people, give up for the sake of hatred of Putin and oh handouts from the west !!!!
    3. +7
      19 February 2012 13: 08
      The result is no longer bad, it shows that you can rely on 21% + twice as many "non-citizens", with some funding and guidance you need to create at least 30-35% block to defend your interests, the referendum is an excellent step that marked the position, now you need to imperceptibly to strengthen Russian-speaking political parties, ignoring national-speaking
      1. Tambovskiy Volk
        -17
        19 February 2012 13: 20
        Quote: Kyrgyz
        The result is no longer bad, it shows that you can rely on 21%

        The result is excellent, it is called an overwhelming number of votes. wink
        1. Odesit
          +9
          19 February 2012 14: 00
          Tambov wolf.
          But for that we are in Little Russia, absolutely calmly writing in all the papers in Russian and will continue like this!
          Russian language in Ukraine, FIRST!
          And with regards to Latvia. So I myself was born there, and I can say. that every Latvian knows Russian. There are more than half of Russians, not 40 percent.
          When our unit was "taken out", many Latvians grieved! - what will happen to us without you!
          The result of the referendum is clearly rigged! There are more Russians, Belarusians and other nationalities than Latvians!
          So much for "democratic values".
          Is it possible that NATO (of which Latvia is currently a member) will allow the emergence of Russian as a second language !? Baby talk.
          People are doing the right thing, fighting for their right to be people. and not the holders of a "brown passport" - not a citizen. Where has this been seen in the practice of international law ?!
          1. Brother Sarych
            +2
            19 February 2012 14: 12
            Yes, not framed, unfortunately - the alignment there is already such, and for a long time!
            If aliens were allowed to vote, but that is impossible ...
            1. Odesit
              +1
              19 February 2012 15: 27
              In some respects, you are right Brother Sarych, but it seems to me that the percentage of those who voted against is too high — more than 70! This is not realistic for their conditions.
              There is a clear fraud
              1. Brother Sarych
                -2
                19 February 2012 15: 32
                I do not think that fraud is a reality, a sad reality ...
                I initially did not believe in the success of this event. I don’t believe not Russian Nil Ushakov, but really Nilas Ushavkovas - and you don’t have to lull yourself ...
            2. Shuriken
              +14
              19 February 2012 15: 35
              My classmate is from Latvia, a non-citizen, since she was lucky to study in Russia (during the USSR) and work in Russia for a couple of years, although she is a purebred Latvian. So, she asked her opinion yesterday. He says that in Latvia more than half of people speak Russian (some districts without exception). And the result is the same as said by the uncles and aunts from the EU, whose Latvia sucks in full,., since I cannot pay the debts and almost already have been given to the serfs for these debts. The European Union, here’s you and NATO, Hey, Yanukovych, are you pulling this to Ukraine?
          2. +10
            19 February 2012 17: 19
            Here is a simple arithmetic: 40% of two million is five hundred thousand. Three hundred twenty thousand are not eligible to vote. There are 180000 left, some of which did not deign, since they did not consider it necessary - it still would not work. The result is obvious. All this would be ridiculous if it were not so sad. If in the country there are subhuman (stateless people), then the government is a fascist.
            1. +1
              19 February 2012 17: 53
              For some reason, I’m also sure that everything is calculated correctly ... It’s just that people wanted to attract the attention of Russia, and most importantly Europe ... What did they achieve .. And the main thing, probably, is nevertheless to organize a referendum on the issue of non-people ... The Middle Ages in modern execution should disappear ... With full economic and political dependence on Europe, Latvia will solve the problem immediately after it is raised at the European Parliament .. But for now, the Europeans pretend that this does not concern them ...
          3. -1
            19 February 2012 17: 47
            You feel the theme, you know ... You need to fight for yourself as well as for others ... There really are literate people .. they are perfectly prepared legally ...
          4. Kremlin
            +1
            19 February 2012 19: 19
            On this day
            February 19, 1236 - Pope Gregory IX announced the first crusade against the Lithuanians.
            That's how they residents of the Baltic remember their story and who really was their mortal enemy
          5. general
            -1
            23 February 2012 16: 29
            And you my friend - not a "fool" for an hour?
        2. 0
          20 February 2012 00: 01
          The result is excellent, it is called an overwhelming number of votes.

          The result is not perfect, but beautiful, he is called - not catching, but overwhelming number of votes.
          Buy a Russian language textbook for grades 4-5 - study the spelling before writing here or put the plugin in spelling so as not to be dishonored ... Or write my own words ...
    4. abyss 8
      -2
      19 February 2012 13: 55
      "the result was not surprising" - which was required to be proved! The citizens of a sovereign state made their choice. What has been said so much is documented
    5. +2
      19 February 2012 22: 34
      Given that the referendum is also an election, this news should come out with a headline like:
      NOTIFICALLY FAIR AND FAIR ELECTIONS MISSED BY ALL INDEPENDENT WRESTLERS FOR FREEDOM AND EQUALITY OF PEOPLES
    6. Kremlin
      +2
      20 February 2012 04: 03
      Quote: General
      the result did not surprise

      Well, yes, when international law is violated during voting
      The Russian Foreign Ministry declares that Riga has ignored its international obligations by refusing to grant the delegation of the Public Chamber of Russia observer status in a referendum that took place the day before and which resolved the issue of granting the Russian language the status of a second state language.
  2. +7
    19 February 2012 12: 06
    There is nothing unexpected in the results either for us or for the organizers of the referendum ... It should have been so ... But then, a new question arose, which, I think, will soon be discussed by the open-status of non-citizens ... it is believed that the country will not succeed .. So the referendum will be exactly .. And there .. The government will be driven into a corner ... Nowhere is there such a European state, so ... Well thought out ..
    1. Tambovskiy Volk
      -17
      19 February 2012 12: 54
      This is a 143% correct result of the referendum, and the question is closed.
      1. +3
        19 February 2012 13: 09
        Quote: Tambovskiy volk
        This is a 143% correct result of the referendum, and the question is closed.

        This is the first step, we are waiting for the next, we need a trail to Kaliningrad, nothing can be done
        1. Tambovskiy Volk
          -23
          19 February 2012 13: 14
          Quote: Kyrgyz
          This is the first step, we are waiting for the next

          And that's all, in Latvia any "Russianness" is closed forever, after time and the growth of hysteria and radicalism of the Russian minority - with a degree of probability, such referendums will be held elsewhere, and there - suitcases, a goods station and to Russia ... ... Yes
          1. recitatorus
            +8
            19 February 2012 13: 30
            You’re mistaken, the Tambov wolf! This is just the beginning! All you need is to give Russian passports, even secretly, to sponsor the birth rate! .. And that’s it! In twenty years the situation will be directly opposite, the percentage of the population will change from the exact opposite ! And if we systematically use other targeted measures, then this will happen even faster!
            1. Tambovskiy Volk
              -5
              19 February 2012 13: 48
              Quote: recitatorus
              even behind the scenes, and sponsor the birth rate! ..

              Neighing - in Russia, first sponsor for a start, otherwise the most rapidly dying country to the Urals ...
              Quote: recitatorus
              In twenty years the situation will become directly opposite, the percentage of the population will change from the exact opposite! And if we use other targeted measures in a planned manner, this will happen even faster!

              Manilovism is a Russian mental diagnosis.
              1. +5
                19 February 2012 16: 01
                From 1999 to 2011, the population of Russia decreased
                by 3,0% and amounted to 141,9 million people. For comparison, at the same time
                the population of Ukraine decreased by 7,4%; Latvia by 5,3% (and over the past 20
                years by 16%). Who is there the most dying "?
                1. general
                  0
                  23 February 2012 16: 33
                  IKRUT - an employee of Turkish intelligence - turn his nickname and you will get "TURKI" - sho kindles here you understand what is forbidden, the troll is awful !!!!
              2. BAT
                +2
                19 February 2012 20: 55
                The fastest dying country is Ukraine. In 2011 alone, about 6 people officially left Ukraine for permanent residence abroad. It is official, but how much illegally plow in the European Union countries janitors, refuellers. handymen on construction sites, cleaners in supermarkets ... And how many of them plow in the vast expanses of Russia. Well, here, at least they find work more qualified, and they treat Ukrainians here normally, more humane and no one here considers them second-class people.
          2. +9
            19 February 2012 14: 00
            Quote: Tambovskiy volk
            We stayed and that's enough.


            The population of Latvia is steadily declining. Both low birth rates and the departure of the Russian-speaking population from the country are to blame for this. The influx of immigrants is negligible. These are mainly immigrants from bourgeois Latvia, living in Canada and the USA. Despite the draconian state policy towards the Russian language, the “indigenous” population of Latvia still enjoys the fruits of Russian and Soviet culture: they listen to pop music, go to performances by touring Russian theater groups and watch the latest Russian cinema. Almost the entire golden fund of Soviet cinema is circulating in the Latvian segment of the Internet, and almost every house has satellite dishes that receive television programs in Russian.
            So it turns out that squeezing out the Soviet past in the Baltic countries actually turned out to be a sophisticated squeezing out of those who consider Russian their native language. The same "not the official language of the EU." There are almost 40% of such linguistic illegal immigrants in Latvia alone. God knows how such a state policy is called in the “official” languages ​​of the EU. Here in Russia, this is called state nationalism.
            On the other hand, in Estonia, whose anti-Russian habits are not much different from the Latvian, paradoxically, the popularity of the Russian language in educational institutions, on the contrary, is increasing annually: they are interested in knowing when hiring them - promisingly! Russian language courses are opening in the country - economic pragmatics takes precedence over political ambitions. Even in the Czech Republic, whose leaders are also not ranked among the friends of Russia, again, Russian language textbooks are published in large numbers. It's just that a new generation of Czechs has grown up in the country - without historical grievances. And only the Latvian politicians, it seems, have not passed the notorious “difficult age” with its well-known costs.

            http://student.km.ru/view.asp?id=7D1751BC2BEA4CACB90A8CCD18BCA51B&idrubr=5D21D4E
            03EB74A98AAA30F8F45C5E31E
          3. +3
            19 February 2012 14: 06
            Quote: Tambovskiy volk
            And that's all, in Latvia any "Russianness" is always closed,

            Come on! referendum showed that we have 30% in this cooperative, and you close the topic smile
          4. Born in USSR
            0
            19 February 2012 14: 09
            If you want to discuss the problems of the Russian language, then at least learn to write correctly in Russian! No offense...
          5. Odesit
            +3
            19 February 2012 14: 11
            Tambovsky.
            Actually, the wolves are shot. Even without a license. How dangerous and harmful to the national economy animals!
            1. +2
              19 February 2012 14: 18
              the wolf is a noble animal, and this is a jackal
            2. +3
              19 February 2012 14: 41
              Quote: Odess

              Tambovsky.
              Actually, the wolves are shot. Even without a license. How dangerous and harmful to the national economy animals!


              Greetings, Alexander! Apparently their dream of SIGURANTS in Odessa and DEFENSE in Lviv
              1. Odesit
                +4
                19 February 2012 15: 40
                Greetings to Stanislav!
                Yes, obviously the banderlogs forgot that most of the current territory of the so-called Ukraine-Little Russia did not belong to them. Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, Tatars, etc.
                Obviously they forgot that the current borders of Ukraine, with the inclusion of Western Ukraine, Bukovina, Bessarabia and Crimea, is not their merit, but the creation of the hands of the leaders of the Russian State - which they are "bad people" - are regularly trying to cheat! It will not work for them.
                The most interesting thing is that they have all the enemies! Poles are enemies, Romanians are enemies, Russian enemies, Poles are enemies. Jews are enemies. And who is friend ?! They are miserable. only run through the woods and shoot in the back.
                1. borkovn
                  -1
                  19 February 2012 19: 17
                  But the Russians have only one sense, but always on a friend, North Korea. There life is good, real communism, without oligarchs, democrats and the like.
                2. general
                  0
                  23 February 2012 16: 36
                  for Odessa residents:
                  do you work for an hour on the Odessa TV channel "ATV" which is actively sponsored by the corresponding services of the Russian Federation?
            3. 0
              19 February 2012 15: 24
              Quote: Odess
              Tambovsky. Actually, the wolves are shot. Even without a license. How dangerous and harmful to the national economy animals!

              He is an ideological Russophobe, a fighter with the traces and deeds of Russianness in the world, what kind of wolf is he? so the poodle is neighbor
            4. -1
              20 February 2012 00: 34
              Why waste a charge on a wolf, albeit a Tambov one? Itself will "knock off" soon. Those who sprinkle bile do not live long - they die from indigestion. Forgive him. He is very offended, and offense is an oncological disease. Better have pity on him. Maybe the person will feel better and he will become kinder, otherwise he has already been flooded from the Ukrainian forums, so he decided to find an outlet in the Russian ones. Probably such a man's fate. Have pity on the ragamuffin wolf lost in the Carpathian forests. The most interesting thing is that even in western Ukraine they are not very good ..., they are simply tolerated.
            5. general
              0
              23 February 2012 16: 35
              type of Odessa:
              Are you my friend "fool"?
          6. +3
            19 February 2012 17: 05
            And now say the same thing in Dnepropetrovsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Krivoy Rog .. Continue to list? You will fly from a powerful kick for a long time and it will hurt to fall
          7. puffnutiy
            0
            19 February 2012 20: 07
            And from Ukraine, are you personally personally ready to load Russian-speaking people into freight cars?
          8. 0
            20 February 2012 00: 11
            through time and growth of hysteria and radicalism of the Russian minority - with a certain degree of probability such referenda will be held somewhere else, and there - suitcases, a freight station and to Russia

            Or maybe according to the principle of South Ossetia 08.08.08 will be ... and the Baltic forest brothers will trample to you in western Ukraine, closer to the old nation and democratic values ​​...
            1. -1
              20 February 2012 00: 15
              Quote: PSih2097
              and trample Baltic forest brothers
              Pushchay. In one place it will be easier to work out !!!!!! Our grandfathers had experience, it’s a pity they still missed someone.
  3. +6
    19 February 2012 12: 10
    In most European countries, even those nations that make up less than 10% of the country's population do not infringe on this.

    I come from Latvia, I still have many relatives living there.

    When Latvia merged with the EU, the vast majority of Latvians (more than men) left to work in other countries of the Eurozone ... and did not return home. It got to the point that the Russians and other authorities began to hire Russians who received citizenship, the procedure for obtaining which was actually simplified. It was necessary for someone in the country to work.

    Fertility issues in Latvia are worse than ever. A significant part of the indigenous population suffers from infertility (more women). And then the youth fell ... so that in the near future a situation could change.

    In confirmation of the situation:

    On the territory of Latvia, the FMS of Russia operates, which encourages non-citizens of Latvia with Russian roots to obtain Russian citizenship and resettlement to Russia (according to the program of compatriots). However, the Russian Embassy in Latvia (as a bulwark of residency and political influence) is opposed to this, the embassy is just agitating the Russian-speaking population to accept Latvian citizenship precisely to increase the possibility of influencing the domestic political situation in the republic.
    1. Brother Sarych
      +2
      19 February 2012 12: 24
      I believe that you are mistaken in both cases: the Federal Migration Service only verbally stimulates the relocation of compatriots, and the embassy least of all thinks about Russian-speakers in general, and about the possibilities of influence in particular ...
      In general, to think that a Russian-speaking person who has just received citizenship will have at least some influence - it’s generally funny ...
      1. +4
        19 February 2012 13: 05
        Respected Brother Sarych, as I understood by the flag, you are from Uzbekistan, right?

        So, I had occasion to communicate with ours from there, your truth, the FMS did not really strive to provide Russian citizenship to compatriots from similar republics. What is the reason for this, I do not know, because we are not aware of everything.

        However, in Latvia I have issued ABSOLUTELY RELIABLE INFORMATIONYou can rest assured. I received Russian citizenship in 2007 within six months, after submitting an application to the embassy, ​​even without participating in the Compatriots Resettlement program.

        Quote: Brother Sarych
        In general, to think that a Russian-speaking person who has just received citizenship will have at least some influence - it’s generally funny ...


        Citizens have the right to vote, you probably forgot about it, and this is what this is all about (including in this article)
        So you can only laugh at yourself laughing (So, on friendship I say).
        1. Brother Sarych
          -1
          19 February 2012 13: 18
          Anonymizer glitch - decided to leave it this way ...
          And you voted a lot? Just wondering...
          1. +4
            19 February 2012 14: 01
            I am a citizen of Russia since 2007, I have never been a citizen of Latvia, but if I were, I would definitely vote to uphold the pro-Russian position.

            In the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation he voted for the Communist Party, in the presidential elections I will vote FOR PUTIN. I gave you a complete comprehensive answer, dear Brother Sarych.

            If you are not from the former republic of the USSR, then why do you argue on the FMS with those who personally dealt with the issue?
            1. Brother Sarych
              -1
              19 February 2012 14: 07
              You did not understand the irony in my rhetorical question!
              Here they voted for the Communist Party-I support, but to sense?
              Want to vote for Putin? This is your right, I’m not an adviser to you here, and, in theory, I have no right, and should not advise anything ...
    2. puffnutiy
      +1
      19 February 2012 20: 13
      I don’t think the embassy is opposed. Rather, the migrants understand that when they relocate compatriots according to the program, they will not receive any help from Russia. I have not heard anything good about this program. No positive reviews. No one will go to a clean field to live when he himself will have to solve problems with documents, registration, work and so on. The Russian state will not help.
  4. +5
    19 February 2012 12: 14
    It should be noted that about 320 thousand "non-citizens" did not have the right to participate in the referendum: after the separation of Latvia from the Soviet Union, they were deprived of their citizenship, and at the same time their voting rights.


    Hmm, Europe, her mother ... They scream about the violation of human rights in Russia, and they themselves have such a log in the eye.
    1. +2
      19 February 2012 12: 53
      Quote: Landwarrior
      Hmm, Europe, her mother ... They scream about the violation of human rights in Russia, and they themselves have such a log in the eye.


      Sorry, where do you see a log?
      The procedure for granting Latvian citizenship is clearly defined and legally enshrined.
      And judging by the fact that, for example, the Russian-speaking mayor of Riga is not so complicated this procedure ...
      Yes, read it yourself - here http://www.tuvari.com/uploads/_o_grazhdanstve_vse_pravki.pdf
      the text of the Law of the Republic of Latvia "ON CITIZENSHIP" is given.

      I can’t say for Latvia, I don’t know exactly the situation there, but I am able to judge Estonia (also many times abused by the Russian media) - my sister lives there. So, she, 100% Russian, received citizenship back in 1995. And it did not require any special super-efforts - she went to language and history courses for four months, passed the exam (it took three hours to do everything), and vowed to abide by the laws of the state ...
      And her daughter, born in 1999 (Russian on both the paternal and the maternal lines), received citizenship of the Republic of Estonia automatically, just by the fact of her birth in Estonia.
      1. Brother Sarych
        +1
        19 February 2012 13: 05
        It is felt that it would not be difficult for you to swear allegiance to the covenants of the unforgettable Adolf Aloizych ...
        The procedures are different - carefully re-read the materials on your link ...
        There are exams that should not be taken ...
        1. +1
          19 February 2012 13: 10
          Quote: Brother Sarich
          It is felt that it would not be difficult for you to swear allegiance to the covenants of the unforgettable Adolf Aloizych ...
          The procedures are different - carefully re-read the materials on your link ...
          There are exams that should not be taken ...


          And why did you see such a terrible thing there?
          1. Brother Sarych
            +1
            19 February 2012 13: 20
            That's how Mine Kampf reads well!
            if you didn’t see anything special there, I won’t develop this topic either ...
            1. +3
              19 February 2012 13: 24
              Quote: Brother Sarich
              if you didn’t see anything special there, I won’t develop this topic either ...


              But still?
              Specifically, point a finger, which, in your opinion, is so much hindering the acquisition of Latvian citizenship by Russian speakers?
              1. +5
                19 February 2012 16: 11
                I don’t even need to read the law. Everyday logic can get everything.
                If the state has "non-citizens" (and they are) and there is segregation according to the linguistic principle (and it is the same, since "non-citizens" are defined in this way) - such laws are very close (analogies are simple) to the Nazi ones. And "swearing allegiance" to such laws is all the same that swearing allegiance to the Nazis. What's wrong?
                1. +2
                  19 February 2012 16: 32
                  Quote: ikrut
                  I don’t even need to read the law. Everyday logic can get everything.
                  If the state has "non-citizens" (and they are) and there is segregation according to the linguistic principle (and it is the same, since "non-citizens" are defined in this way) - such laws are very close (analogies are simple) to the Nazi ones. And "swearing allegiance" to such laws is all the same that swearing allegiance to the Nazis. What's wrong?


                  Enchanting ...
                  Is Latvia a Nazi state? Ok, let’s take this statement as a basis.

                  And something to read:
                  Article 13. Admission to the citizenship of the Russian Federation in the general manner
                  1. Foreign citizens and stateless persons who have reached the age of eighteen years and have legal capacity are entitled to apply for admission to the citizenship of the Russian Federation in the general manner, provided that these citizens and persons:
                  a) live in the territory of the Russian Federation from the day of obtaining a residence permit until the day of applying for citizenship of the Russian Federation for five years continuously, except as otherwise provided for in part two of this article. The term of residence on the territory of the Russian Federation is considered continuous if a person leaves the Russian Federation for no more than three months within one year. The period of residence on the territory of the Russian Federation for persons who arrived in the Russian Federation before July 1, 2002 and do not have a residence permit shall be calculated from the date of registration at the place of residence;
                  (in the edition of the Federal Law from 11.11.2003 N 151-FZ)
                  (see the text in the previous wording)
                  b) undertake to comply with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the legislation of the Russian Federation;
                  c) have a legitimate source of livelihood;
                  d) appealed to the authorized body of a foreign state with statements about the renunciation of their other citizenship. Renunciation of other citizenship is not required if it is provided for by an international treaty of the Russian Federation or this Federal Law or if renunciation of another citizenship is not possible due to reasons beyond the control of a person;
                  e) speak Russian; the procedure for determining the level of knowledge of the Russian language is established by the regulation on the procedure for considering issues of citizenship of the Russian Federation.

                  We look at this very position:
                  The applicant also submits a document confirming his knowledge of the Russian language at a level sufficient to communicate verbally and in writing in a language environment. Proficiency in Russian at the indicated level is confirmed by one of the following documents:
                  a state standard document on education (not lower than basic general education) issued by an educational institution (organization):
                  until September 1, 1991 - in the territory of a state that was part of the USSR;
                  after September 1, 1991 - in the territory of the Russian Federation;
                  certificate of state testing in Russian (in the amount not lower than the basic level of general knowledge of the Russian language) issued by an educational institution (organization) in the Russian Federation or abroad, which (by) the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation is allowed to conduct state testing of citizens foreign countries in Russian as a foreign language. The form of the certificate and the procedure for issuing it are approved by the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation;
                  (as amended by the Presidential Decree of 15.07.2008 N 1098)
                  (see the text in the previous wording)
                  a document on education issued in the territory of a foreign country and having an entry in the appendix about studying the Russian language course, with a notarized translation and a certificate of equivalence of the document on education.

                  There is no fundamental difference, agree ...
                  And how are simple Russian cops policemen to non-citizens - I think no need to explain ...
                  So, Russia is a Nazi state? And her laws can not be followed? And swearing allegiance to its laws is the same as swearing allegiance to the Nazis?
                2. +1
                  19 February 2012 17: 59
                  A long time ago I did not meet in komenti such a clear vision of the issue .. Without water, clearly in the center of the target ... Indeed, the Latvian state is very much like the Nazi ... You can’t argue ...
            2. +1
              19 February 2012 13: 40
              Quote: Brother Sarich
              That's how Mine Kampf reads well!
              if you didn’t see anything special there, I won’t develop this topic either ...


              And by the way, have you read "Mein Kampf" that you so boldly say about the identity of this book and Latvian laws?
              1. Brother Sarych
                +2
                19 February 2012 13: 55
                Imagine - I read, although I do not share these views in principle, so for general development, I have read a lot more ...
                No, of course, they didn’t tear the phrases directly, but in terms of meaning and ideas they’re not very different ...
                1. +2
                  19 February 2012 14: 24
                  Quote: Brother Sarich
                  Imagine - I read, although I do not share these views in principle, so for general development, I have read a lot more ...
                  No, of course, they didn’t tear the phrases directly, but in terms of meaning and ideas they’re not very different ...


                  Wow!
                  So right and no different?
                  And in the Law of the Republic of Latvia "On Citizenship" something like this is written down:
                  We, the National Socialists, must go even further: the right to acquire new lands becomes not only a right, but also a duty, if without expanding our territories a great people is doomed to death. ?
                  Or maybe it says something like:
                  In addition to citizenship rights acquired through birth, there is still the possibility of a later acquisition of citizenship rights. There are already some “limitations”. For example, a person is required to, if possible, not be one of the thugs and pimps, so that he is politically “safe”, that is, He was a perfect political zero and finally, so that he was not “burdensome” for his new homeland. By this last, in our mercantile age, we understand of course the purely financial side. If this person manages to convince the administration that he will be a good taxpayer, then this is already a sufficient recommendation to be accepted as a citizen.
                  At the same time, they do not pay any attention to the racial moment.
                  Not only that, they do not pay the slightest attention to the racial moment. The state does not show the slightest interest in how physically healthy this new citizen is. Let this person be decomposed alive from syphilis, we are not interested in this, if only he would pay taxes and be politically “safe”.
                  So from year to year, these formations, called states, absorb poisons that they are barely able to withstand.
                  and on this basis it is proposed to introduce something like the Nuremberg laws?

                  Interesting ... Where in the text of the law did you see this ...
                  1. Brother Sarych
                    0
                    19 February 2012 14: 54
                    How touching - and your example is only confirmation!
                    Just substitute the Russian for the forbidden word - what is the fundamental difference? So the followers of Hitler defend their country, and even find such zealous defenders ...
                    What, good man, can anonymizer bug you too?
                    1. +2
                      19 February 2012 15: 12
                      Quote: Brother Sarich
                      How touching - and your example is only confirmation!
                      Just substitute the Russian for the forbidden word - what is the fundamental difference? So the followers of Hitler defend their country, and even find such zealous defenders ...
                      What, good man, can anonymizer bug you too?


                      Zvizdets logic in some members of the forum ...

                      Okay, by points:
                      1) Where to substitute the Russians, can you tell me? Where in the Law "On Citizenship" did you find references to Russians?
                      2) In what specific article of this Law did you see a resemblance to the ideas of A. Hitler? What is the similarity?
                      1. Brother Sarych
                        +1
                        19 February 2012 23: 14
                        I want to draw your attention to those points that Hitler points to those elements that in his view contribute to the decomposition of the state, in the understanding of the Latvian authorities these elements were and are Russian-speaking ...
                        And there’s nothing for the fool to include - the red color of your quote only emphasizes this basic idea!
      2. Odesit
        +1
        19 February 2012 14: 21
        Roman 75
        The history of Estonia, where the most evil and bad guys are Russians ?! This is pure lies! What Estonia, and all the "Balts" can have a history. except for the "change of owner" !?
        The Estonians forgot what the Swedish barons were tyrannizing.
        1. -4
          19 February 2012 14: 48
          Quote: Odess
          The history of Estonia, where the most evil and bad guys are Russians ?! This is pure lies! What Estonia, and all the "Balts" can have a history. except for the "change of owner" !?
          The Estonians forgot what the Swedish barons were tyrannizing.


          The "history" they were presented with was half fiction, half distortion of facts.
          But, fortunately, the Estonian teacher was an honest man at those courses, therefore, after reading the required amount of nonsense, he also gave a true picture. Without any embellishment.
          1. Odesit
            +1
            19 February 2012 16: 08
            Roman 75 14.48. from today.
            So where is the truth?
            If they teach one thing, and the teacher tells the other from himself? So you don't agree with yourself? And they are not sure if they are right. And I need not talk about the anti-Russian orientation, and I am so familiar with the "Extreme Europeans".
            So how can such a "state" live?
            1. 0
              19 February 2012 16: 34
              Quote: Odess
              So where is the truth?
              If they teach one thing, and the teacher tells the other from himself? So you don't agree with yourself? And they are not sure if they are right. And I need not talk about the anti-Russian orientation, and I am so familiar with the "Extreme Europeans".
              So how can such a "state" live?


              IMHO, let them figure out how to live. No prompts from outside. Especially from the eastern ...
              We would have to deal with ourselves and our history.
              1. +1
                19 February 2012 19: 03
                NOVEL 75. YOU HAVE NOTHING BEEN ANYTHING COMPARING THE LAWS?
                THE SPEECH IS NOT ABOUT THE ADMISSION TO THE CITIZENSHIP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND NOT ABOUT THE RULES OF ITS GRANTING, THE SPEAK IS ON THE COUNTRY WHICH LAWS THE STATUS
                INCOMPLETENESS IN CIVIL POPULATION, WITH ALL THE EFFECTS CONSEQUENTIAL FROM HERE. WHERE IS YOUR VOICE ANNOUNCING ON THIS REASON? OR THE EXCELLENCE OF ONE NATIONALITY OVER ANOTHER ON AN ETHNIC SIGN THERE ARE MOST IMPORTANT?
                IS IT NOT Nazism?
                1. 0
                  19 February 2012 19: 34
                  Quote: olegyurjewitch
                  NOVEL 75. YOU HAVE NOTHING BEEN ANYTHING COMPARING THE LAWS?
                  THE SPEECH IS NOT ABOUT THE ADMISSION TO THE CITIZENSHIP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND NOT ABOUT THE RULES OF ITS GRANTING, THE SPEAK IS ON THE COUNTRY WHICH LAWS THE STATUS
                  INCOMPLETENESS IN CIVIL POPULATION, WITH ALL THE EFFECTS CONSEQUENTIAL FROM HERE. WHERE IS YOUR VOICE ANNOUNCING ON THIS REASON? OR THE EXCELLENCE OF ONE NATIONALITY OVER ANOTHER ON AN ETHNIC SIGN THERE ARE MOST IMPORTANT?
                  IS IT NOT Nazism?


                  Again:
                  WHERE DO YOU SEE IN THIS LAW ITEM A CATEGORALLY HINDERING LATVIAN RESIDENTS OF NELATIAN NATIONALITIES TO GET CITIZENSHIP OF THE REPUBLIC OF LATVIA?
                  Does it say somewhere that non-Latvians cannot obtain citizenship under any circumstances?
                  1. Brother Sarych
                    +1
                    19 February 2012 23: 21
                    If a Russian-speaking citizen or any other citizen moved to Latvia for permanent residence, then under any law he must fulfill a number of obligations - otherwise, let him search for a more suitable country or simply live as a guest, no one should forbid him from doing so if he abides the laws...
                    In Latvia citizenship MUST be automatically granted to all permanent residents, of course, anyone could refuse this - and again, NO ONE would have made any claims!
                    None of this was done - on the contrary, a significant part was initially declared non-citizens and infringed on their rights, and Russia did not give a damn, and Europe even more so ...
    2. Tambovskiy Volk
      -11
      19 February 2012 12: 56
      Quote: Landwarrior
      Hmm, Europe, her mother ... They scream about the violation of human rights in Russia, and they themselves have such a log in the eye.

      I recommend developing in a multinational RF, based on human rights, the national languages ​​of all peoples. Yes
      1. +1
        19 February 2012 13: 53
        so we do not advise Europe how to live! So we do not need to specify.
      2. +3
        19 February 2012 14: 10
        and I would advise you to read the Constitutions of national republics in the Russian Federation, otherwise you, as Natsiks in Kazakhstan, will put you in a puddle about the oppression of national languages, without even getting into the core of the issueTambovskiy volk,
      3. +1
        19 February 2012 19: 39
        Quote: Tambovskiy volk
        I recommend developing in a multinational RF, based on human rights, the national languages ​​of all peoples. yes

        YOU ARRIVED WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS NOBODY TAKE FROM US, DO NOT PROHIBIT, HERE AS IT SAYS, YOU HAVE A FINGER IN THE SKY.
      4. 0
        21 February 2012 20: 41
        Quote: Tambovskiy volk
        I recommend developing in a multinational RF, based on human rights, the national languages ​​of all peoples.

        Well, here you respected hit your finger in ... the sky laughing
        in Karelia, TV and radio programs in Karelian and Finnish are on the local air, the press is also in the so-called "national languages". wink
        In Yakutia, too. smile
        These are two edges of the country, so in the middle, too, everything is in order with this smile
        laughing
  5. perryiht
    +5
    19 February 2012 12: 30
    Why react to them, I don’t understand at all. It is necessary to return to us compatriots who have remained in such countries, instead of guest workers and in general you can forget about the existence of countries such as Estonia and Latvia on the map.
    1. Tambovskiy Volk
      -8
      19 February 2012 12: 57
      Quote: perryiht
      Why react to them, I don’t understand at all. It is necessary to return to us compatriots who have remained in such countries, instead of guest workers and in general you can forget about the existence of countries such as Estonia and Latvia on the map.

      And take it from Ukraine, the more it takes the form of a kind of "national program" and the settlement of Siberia. Yes
      1. marc
        +5
        19 February 2012 13: 36
        It will be necessary to pick you up as well, but they’ve completely lost their hands and will settle in Siberia, thank you.
        1. Tambovskiy Volk
          -7
          19 February 2012 13: 54
          Quote: marc

          It will be necessary to pick you up as well, but they’ve completely lost their hands and will settle in Siberia, thank you.

          For a long time Russia, after hundreds of thousands of Russian refugees from the 90s-2000s who fled from the "Russian settlement of culture in the USSR" with wars and massacres back to Russia - to carry out a program of "peaceful" repatriation of Russians from the Baltic States, Ukraine, Moldova, and many more in Asia.
          Here you will have demographics, fields already overgrown with forest in Russia and Chinese populations of Russia to the Urals already Chinese.
          1. +1
            19 February 2012 14: 21
            Quote: Tambovskiy volk
            Russia and the Chinese settlement of Russia to the Urals are already Chinese.

            Have you been outside the Urals for a long time?
          2. marc
            +2
            19 February 2012 14: 39
            Why Tambov Wolf? Fear, we will come soon, you will fight with the Chinese in the Far East.
          3. Odesit
            +4
            19 February 2012 16: 17
            Tambovsky from 13. 54. today.
            Clinic. All that can be said.
            If memory serves, it was you who were under the nicknames - "banderlos", "shchukin" and "patriot of Chukotka" - again YOU have diarrhea started ?!
            What? Still not cured of Russophobia and independence?
            Learn to discuss the EMPTY.
            And apart. Ask your friends. For what reason. more than 200 thousand inhabitants of the "Ukrainian Piedmont" - Galicia received at their own request - the POLYKA CARD, which is issued only if you have Polish roots. And Hungary - freely issues passports - "to the children of the Hungarian land, who by the will of fate remained on the lands that were not righteously rejected from us" - Transcarpathia and the Carpathian region.
            Something you do not have a picture. - "banderlos".
          4. +3
            19 February 2012 16: 23
            And what, in Lviv and Stanislav this is shown on TV?
            Are special correspondents filling out a business trip to China?
        2. +4
          19 February 2012 13: 55
          And why in Siberia frostbitten and wooden to the ears send? This is not a garbage dump you know! Let them go there, whose ideals are chanted, there they will be welcomed with open arms!
          1. Odesit
            +2
            19 February 2012 16: 38
            Siberia is a beautiful land! Their place in the Sahara, let the nomads deal with them. And Siberia, Mother - there is nothing to muck.
      2. +2
        19 February 2012 14: 11
        along with the east and crime, agree ?! wink
        1. marc
          +1
          19 February 2012 15: 31
          Well then Kolyma, well, where else to settle them if everything is against?
          1. +3
            19 February 2012 16: 26
            Bandera must be given to the Poles. Oh, how they are waiting for this. To get even for the "Volyn massacre". To cancel the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. And give the land (if the population wishes) to the former owners. What oil painting would be painted! And what a balm for the souls of liberal common people. They were so hayalling-scolding him ...
        2. Odesit
          +1
          19 February 2012 16: 40
          Totally agree with you Vasilenko Vladimir. That's right
      3. +1
        19 February 2012 16: 20
        No. From Ukraine, we will simply return you to your owners in Poland. Composed of 2-3 areas. And everything will be garlic :))
      4. 0
        19 February 2012 19: 53
        Quote: Tambovskiy volk
        And take away from Ukraine

        DO NOT PICK UP, HALF WORKS HERE, NOTICE, WORKS FOR YOURSELF. YOU WOULD COME OUT TO THE MAIDAN AND BY NATURALLY YOUR THOUGHT ON MOVEMENT OF UKRAINIANS SOUND. AND WHAT ON SHOWER SHOW. fool
  6. +3
    19 February 2012 12: 37
    It also remains for us to reconsider their "independence". And NATO is unlikely to help them here.
    1. Tambovskiy Volk
      -9
      19 February 2012 13: 21
      Quote: Hippo
      It also remains for us to reconsider their "independence". And NATO is unlikely to help them here.

      Hippopotamus - Don’t sneak for the autumn and March referenda ... lol
      1. +2
        19 February 2012 14: 12
        miracle, at least you would not be rude, well, you have your own Western logic, figs with you, but why be rude?
      2. +1
        19 February 2012 22: 49
        to Tambovskiy volk Today, 13: 21
        ---------------------------------
        Volchara. After such your comment, I would like to ask: what rubbish dump did you find on?
        1. +1
          19 February 2012 22: 53
          they didn’t look for him, he found himself
  7. +3
    19 February 2012 12: 48
    How can you forget about them, no one has canceled the struggle for spheres of influence. Either they will become our vassals, or the USA will go there at home. That is extremely undesirable for Russia. Squeezing their diet in the international court of human rights is the next step! The referendum was calculated on this. Then we’ll see how much they are respected in Europe itself! This is a multi-way game.
  8. Brother Sarych
    +2
    19 February 2012 12: 52
    What is the use of playing professional card cheaters? Only a very naive person can hope to win some case in their court ..
    1. +1
      19 February 2012 13: 59
      Yes, what are they a cheater!? So, simple lovers.
      If the court recognizes that this referendum is legitimate, Russia may raise the question of the legitimacy of the court itself, and as a result, its decisions are not binding on the territory of Russia.
      1. Brother Sarych
        -1
        19 February 2012 23: 22
        These are not lovers, these are professional cheaters ...
  9. Tambovskiy Volk
    -11
    19 February 2012 13: 01
    After the failure in the recent elections in Transnistria, Russia and the "Russian world" suffered another defeat in Latvia. The next stage is the defeat of the Russian Federation itself in the elections in the Russian Federation. Yes
    1. with
      +7
      19 February 2012 13: 11
      And you, my friend, a dreamer !!!))) laughing
      1. Tambovskiy Volk
        -9
        19 February 2012 13: 19
        Quote: met

        And you, my friend, a dreamer !!!)))

        Muldavan forgot to ask. Transdniestria can only be connected to the historical center - Ukraine. And the remnants of the 6th Army’s arsenals will not help the Muldavans.
        1. with
          +1
          19 February 2012 13: 41
          You are also a stupid dreamer. although all dreamers are essentially fools !!! laughing
          1. Tambovskiy Volk
            -5
            19 February 2012 13: 58
            Quote: met
            You are also a stupid dreamer. although all dreamers are essentially fools !!!

            I repeat - they forgot to ask the Muldavan who had 6 non-flying MiG-29s ... But it won't come to that, you couldn't even teach the PR itself the language "preshto-preshto-muldavaneshto", but with us, for sure. But again, not everything - I can remind you what the economy of Moldova is now ... And who is helping you now with gas, while Russia is trying to "force you to peace and love" ... And your PR has never been and never will be - you are you know.
        2. -1
          19 February 2012 16: 29
          The "historical center" itself would not be left on the outskirts again. This is where the whole thing goes ...
        3. BAT
          -1
          19 February 2012 21: 06
          Hey, wise guy, not Transnistria, but Transnistria !!! Learn to write correctly and without mistakes.
          1. Born in USSR
            -1
            20 February 2012 00: 01
            I agree, I think he can’t write correctly on his mov :-)
    2. serge
      +2
      19 February 2012 13: 53
      The next stage is the defeat of the Russian Federation in the elections in the Russian Federation
      --------------------------------------------
      Is it like that?
    3. Odesit
      +1
      19 February 2012 14: 35
      Tambovsky.
      No, my friend you will not wait for this. Russia will not leave its positions! These are not the times. so that we run away from the "democratic world" and apologize for the "mistakes of the past."
      Now let "they" be afraid! History, as you know, is "cyclical", everything returns to normal.
      And whatever one may say, RUSSIA has always emerged victorious from any dump. And our "friends", including the unfinished SS-MANS from the Galician division, must remember this.
  10. +11
    19 February 2012 13: 10
    Come on, brothers, worry, in 30-40 years the question will be solved by itself-there will be neither the Latvian language, nor Latvia itself (as well as Estonia), the language will be Russian, Finnish, maybe German, but only not Latvian, and not Latvians will be
    1. Tambovskiy Volk
      -17
      19 February 2012 13: 16
      Quote: Old Rocketman
      Come on, brothers, worry, after 30-40 the question will be decided by itself

      Quite right, in 40 years no one will remember Russia, even in the Russian Federation itself. Yes
      1. marc
        +4
        19 February 2012 13: 32
        You distort reality, no one will remember about you, but nevertheless you write in Russian and speak, and all of you speak and will speak, no matter how much you would like.
        1. Tambovskiy Volk
          -4
          19 February 2012 14: 08
          Quote: marc

          You distort reality, no one will remember about you, but nevertheless you write in Russian and speak, and all of you speak and will speak, no matter how much you would like.

          I was born with a scoop, and I still remember how I was taught to be "Russian", and this is not true and a lie. My children - I have no idea about something "Russia" and "Russian language", but what kind of patriots I teach them ... - you can probably guess ... Yes good
          1. +1
            19 February 2012 14: 44
            yeah, they came to my senses, myself ... and you raise the same children
          2. marc
            0
            19 February 2012 15: 00
            Apparently you are a malicious alcoholic, you have a hungover syndrome with manic depressive progression, well, as a psychiatrist, I know your problems, get treated, because you can still help you at an early stage, otherwise you will start yelling about repression and genocide.
            1. 0
              20 February 2012 00: 22
              Dear colleague, quit. You are diagnosed! This is an ordinary nationalist, one thing. In the case of the development of the friendship of peoples, they themselves die out, with a strong ruler - they banally shoot back. Nothing new...
          3. 0
            19 February 2012 16: 15
            Listen, would you walk from this site inadequate Svidomo step. Do not let normal people communicate calmly. It’s a pity for your children - they will be as miserable as you.
          4. +4
            19 February 2012 16: 36
            we know, we know such "Bendera patriots". Recently one such sang - "you need to walk with a pistol in your belt and a knife in your pocket." Do you teach to strangle cats? How did your undersized idol do? Did you hang the icon of the banderka in the hut? Do you pray to him?
            Pray. While there is time. Teach the kids. Redeem the sins of their bloody ancestors - Bandera.
            And then soon you will have to play a militarized game in memory of Pavel Anatolyevich Sudoplatov.
            1. Arc76
              -1
              19 February 2012 22: 47
              Ay, yy, yy, under the same flag, all three, and you swear then dear why. What old game do you play, old, all his naughty erotic games pull, and even with the pavlo. Man, are you gay by any chance?
          5. BAT
            0
            19 February 2012 21: 18
            That you do not live in the country, but in something incomprehensible. You have a president twice or thrice-tried urka. The Prime Minister speaks some incomprehensible language, like Ukrainian, but it sounds like his ears are getting too big. There are many more examples of absurdities of post-Soviet Ukraine, but I won’t. What you explain, you will still stand your ground. To teach a fool what to treat a dead ...
          6. -1
            20 February 2012 00: 20
            Damn, surprised ... We were all also taught to be ... no, not quite Russian ... Soviet - and we remained that way, albeit in different countries. I'm sorry your kids are so dark and uneducated that they "have no idea." Moreover, we have our own children, and we will teach them correctly.
            And if we talk about politics: many former republics, which do not have their own oil and gas, exist at the expense of Russia - and they spit on it. You can not love, but do not be rude.
      2. +3
        19 February 2012 14: 14
        yeah there will be one big uraine ukry will live in it wassat
        however weedy
        1. marc
          0
          19 February 2012 15: 17
          And the emblem will have a chocolate solo!
      3. Odesit
        -1
        19 February 2012 14: 38
        Tambovsky urgently needs a good psychiatrist.
      4. +2
        19 February 2012 14: 51
        I’m wondering, you hate Russia with every fiber of your “ukryskaya”, so what kind of people do you sit on the Russian site and climb into Russian issues?
  11. -2
    19 February 2012 13: 14
    Quote: Old Rocketman
    Come on, brothers, worry, in 30-40 years the question will be solved by itself-there will be neither the Latvian language, nor Latvia itself (as well as Estonia), the language will be Russian, Finnish, maybe German, but only not Latvian, and not Latvians will be


    This is with a fright?
    1. +6
      19 February 2012 13: 20
      And from this, Latvians flee from Latvia. With their resources, or rather, with their absence, they are doomed to degradation, in order to survive, they will have to learn the languages ​​of developed neighbors, and in general, whoever dines on a girl dances her
      1. -2
        19 February 2012 13: 26
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        And from this, Latvians flee from Latvia. With their resources, or rather, with their absence, they are doomed to degradation, in order to survive, they will have to learn the languages ​​of developed neighbors, and in general, whoever dines on a girl dances her


        What are you doing ?! Truth?!
        And so it existed, existed for hundreds of years, and then suddenly once - and disappear ?!
        And as soon as tiny European states managed to survive in such a situation ...
        1. Tambovskiy Volk
          -13
          19 February 2012 13: 30
          Quote: Roman-75
          And so it existed, existed for hundreds of years, and then suddenly once - and disappear ?!
          And as soon as tiny European states managed to survive in such a situation ...

          Roman, they have a slip of the tongue in their psychology - understand this in reverse to them from their lips ... This is while their "world" is crumbling and continuous geopolitical defeats ... Yes
        2. +4
          19 February 2012 13: 40
          Quote: Roman-75
          And as soon as tiny European states managed to survive in such a situation

          Well, is there a Luxembourgish language, or San Marin's, or maybe Monacian, but don’t remember what languages ​​they speak in Switzerland?
        3. +1
          19 February 2012 14: 15
          how many years have existed? !!!!
        4. +3
          19 February 2012 16: 49
          Exactly so - "once and disappear." And there are plenty of examples of this in history. They would have disappeared earlier if it had not been for the humanism and historical romanticism of I.V. Stalin. And so - stretched out for another hundred years. And the "tiny states" always knew their place and knew how to behave appropriately. That's why they live.
          1. Arc76
            -3
            19 February 2012 20: 23
            Listen dear, you’re just some kind of a masahist. Everyone dreams of a strong hand, well, you’ll probably have it just look, as if not from the Lviv region, because there are brutal uncles there too. You would go to the Baltic states instead of Dubai, look what kind of life is there, it’s better to be pulled there now than in Ukraine this hundred years. At least the roads were immediately repaired there when the USSR fell. And look, I’m seriously speaking: your Stalin has messed with all your neighbors, this is his inheritance, the Balts do not like, well, I won’t always say anything about Poles ...... .mi were, they are not sorry, only Leonid Ilyich with dates, brought the kingdom of heaven into normal relations, and so would even, even the Wed ....... Moldovan-Romanian countries and so on dislike. So he made them together and that, all the same, all in different directions. Well, the Latvian and Uzbek did not feel themselves citizens of one country. So the question is, why is this all?
      2. Tambovskiy Volk
        -8
        19 February 2012 13: 27
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        And from this, Latvians flee from Latvia. With their resources, or rather, with their absence, they are doomed to degradation.

        Typical thinking of a resident of a banana raw country. How do the Japanese survive ??? - Himself in shock ... lol
        1. +3
          19 February 2012 13: 34
          Quote: Tambovskiy volk
          Typical thinking of a resident of a banana raw country.

          Well, at least it’s not salo-dung, we weren’t trained in caches in Bandera luboks
          1. Tambovskiy Volk
            -5
            19 February 2012 14: 03
            Quote: Old Rocketman
            Well, at least it’s not salo-dung, we weren’t trained in caches in Bandera luboks

            "Dung" I do not understand why - it speaks more about your level of intelligence. and so yes - lard, meat, butter, bread, rice, buckwheat, sausage. kuro, damp, airplane. diesel locomotive, turbine, military-industrial complex, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, automobile construction. tank building etc. Independent State !!! - You don't have that. Yes
            1. +2
              19 February 2012 14: 46
              and all this arose suddenly and contrary to the cursed pits
            2. Odesit
              0
              19 February 2012 17: 45
              Tambovsky.
              Well, you are a fool girl! Anything you can say about you.
              Learn to watered the economy of Ukraine-Little Russia. and then get into a conversation.
              Do you have an industry ?! HORSE ON THE SOAP you have left, the country is on the verge of falling into the abyss, and you are still discussing what will happen to Russia. She will live. and here you are. how you will live without RUSSIA is not known ..
            3. BAT
              0
              19 February 2012 21: 34
              All this you had about 10 years ago, and now you have no trace of it for a long time. You have stolen and sold everything that you can and cannot, or cut it for scrap. There is no Black Sea Shipping Company, and almost nothing remained of the Danube Flotilla either. On the Dnieper, if you see a self-propelled barge, it must be under a foreign flag. agriculture also survives on its own. The military-industrial complex has also been forgotten in Ukraine. Automotive industry - CJSC AVTOZAZ is not working at the moment. They save on gas and electricity ... In Zaporozhye alone, all electrical plants have been shut down for a long time - "Radiopribor" has not been working for ten years, Semiconductor Plant No. 77 also ceased to exist after the collapse of the USSR. This list can be continued for a very long time ... Independent Power !!! Do not make me laugh.
        2. +1
          19 February 2012 14: 45
          but do not tell the wretched, why are you doing something there?
          1. -1
            19 February 2012 20: 20
            CHEESE ONE PRODUCE IT. DON'T ENTER WITH IT IN AN OPPOSITION, YET STILL NOT IN THE TOPIC. AFTER A BAN, IT HAS DEMOLUTION, THE VETERENAR WILL BE POWERless.
    2. +2
      19 February 2012 16: 46
      This is a good historical tradition :))) With some adjustments
  12. +1
    19 February 2012 13: 26
    Quote: Roman-75
    This is with a fright?

    And with this, with their resources (or rather, with their absence), they are forced to learn the languages ​​of more developed neighboring countries. Without help, they are doomed to degradation, and whoever dines with the girl dances her
    1. Nu daaaa ...
      +1
      19 February 2012 19: 17
      "... more developed neighboring countries ..."

      Right! And what does the Russian ??? German, Finnish, Swedish self. English too, but Russian?
  13. marc
    -2
    19 February 2012 13: 27
    They simply did not grow up to speak Russian. Not worthy, I'm glad that one more people will not trash our language.
    1. Tambovskiy Volk
      -5
      19 February 2012 13: 32
      Quote: marc
      They simply did not grow up to speak Russian. Not worthy, I'm glad that one more people will not trash our language.

      It's time to excommunicate the "people" unworthy from the territory of the Russian Federation too ... Yes
      1. marc
        +1
        19 February 2012 13: 40
        Try it, otherwise you’ll be in a bad mood, write on your own ...
        1. Tambovskiy Volk
          -6
          19 February 2012 14: 05
          Quote: marc
          Try it, otherwise you’ll be in a bad mood, write on your own ...

          What is there to try? It’s not so much the language that the peoples of the Caucasus are already weaning to serve in the army of the Russian Federation ... lol
          1. marc
            +2
            19 February 2012 15: 04
            You probably will learn the news on rambler, but what about the Caucasus, they are Russians, these are our problems, but you don’t write on your own, I probably forgot, I bought the clave in Russian, you are ours.
  14. +2
    19 February 2012 13: 28
    As I wrote above ...
    What shocked me at this election was that the young Russian speakers voted against the Russian as the second state
    language! Brainwashing is colossal! The passport shows that for many, this is the first vote of life, and they are against the language of their parents! This is a shock!
    Here is the omission of Russia, without its influence, has grown enemies near itself! Ten years later, many of these will come into power, And then .......? ? ?
    The ideological enemy is Russian, in a neighboring country, at hand! Scary to imagine!
    Participating in this referendum, as an observer, it was clear where the voters put a cross on. And, as mentioned above, I watched it specially, especially among young Russian speakers.
    Latvians came at that age, tomorrow in a coffin, grandchildren support from two sides, and such vote Against! They raised them, according to the citizen’s passport, it is clear that during his action, he came to vote a second time
    If the old woman is 100 years old and she crawled to say "Against".
    1. 0
      19 February 2012 13: 47
      Quote: akvald
      I was shocked at this election, it is that the young Russian speakers voted against the Russian, as the second state
      language! Brainwashing is colossal! The passport shows that for many, this is the first vote of life, and they are against the language of their parents! This is a shock!
      Here is the omission of Russia, without its influence, has grown enemies near itself! Ten years later, many of these will come into power, And then .......? ? ?
      The ideological enemy is Russian, in a neighboring country, at hand! Scary to imagine!
      Participating in this referendum, as an observer, it was clear where the voters put a cross on. And, as mentioned above, I watched it specially, especially among young Russian speakers.
      Latvians came at that age, tomorrow in a coffin, grandchildren support from two sides, and such vote Against! They raised them, according to the citizen’s passport, it is clear that during his action, he came to vote a second time
      If the old woman is 100 years old and she crawled to say "Against".


      Like this...
      Yes, well, very "scary" Russian-speaking "oppressed" ... So scary that even against the Russian language as the second state language.
      Looks like they don’t want to split their new homeland ...
    2. recitatorus
      0
      19 February 2012 13: 57
      I do not exclude the possibility that in some cases this could be the case, but there can be no talk of mass character, from where then over 20%! If you make an elementary arithmetic calculation, plus the interest of the authorities and the fact that you, Aquald, say that it turns out that a considerable number of true Aryans voted for the Russian language !!! And this is nonsense !!!
      Brainwashing, of course, is a serious thing, but it is really effective, only in the absence of these same brains.
    3. Brother Sarych
      -1
      19 February 2012 14: 01
      Seriously? In principle, I was not particularly surprised, but I thought that at least you could rely on Russian-speaking citizens in this matter ...
      Ok, let’s lower the epithets ...
    4. Odesit
      +3
      19 February 2012 14: 48
      What do you say akvald?
      Indeed, many Russian-speakers in Latvia have lost their roots. I know because I was born there (the city of Jelgava) and come almost every year to my relatives there. The brain liquefaction project did work. Well, nothing, break through! The Baltic states will sooner or later return under the Russian Crown.
      It is also true, as true is that the earth is round.
    5. Jancis
      0
      20 February 2012 16: 44
      akvald, Kas Tie tadi par ienaidniekiem? Tu Tur ko muldi? Tipisks krievu fasists!
  15. 0
    19 February 2012 13: 45
    Quote: Roman-75
    And as soon as tiny European states managed to survive in such a situation

    Or maybe you recall what languages ​​they speak there? -I will recall -French and German, in Andorra-Spanish
    1. marc
      +4
      19 February 2012 13: 54
      The proud Latvian people, speaks the proud Latvian language, is heated by the proud Latvian gas, even the proud Latvian bulbs burn from the proud Latvian electricity and only evil Russians all dream of capturing this proud country. SHAME, parasites seeking dividends for infringement of Russia.
  16. -6
    19 February 2012 13: 57
    Quote: Old Rocketman
    Or maybe you recall what languages ​​they speak there? -I will recall -French and German, in Andorra-Spanish


    Oh really ?!
    Does a bilingual Switzerland not exist? They don’t speak, in addition to German, French and Italian, Romance?
    Did bilingual Belgium with its Walloon go away too?
    Did the Alsatian dialect disappear in France? And Breton and Gascon evaporated?
    Has Basque disappeared in Spain? And Catalan in addition?
    And in England, Gaelic and Welsh fell through the ground?

    Colleague, you get some kind of alternative linguistics ...
    1. +1
      19 February 2012 14: 11
      Roman 75,
      Since when have France, Spain and England become "tiny" countries, and we also have dialects, for example, Arkhangelsk, Pskov, Ukrainian surzhik, finally. And I'm not your colleague
      1. -3
        19 February 2012 14: 43
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        Since when have France, Spain and England become "tiny" countries, and we also have dialects, for example, Arkhangelsk, Pskov, Ukrainian surzhik, finally


        Well, leave England with France.
        And look at Luxembourg, for example. Is Luxembourgish not taught there at school? Or do they have no official trilingualism?
        Or take a look at Liechtenstein. Is there no lichtensteiner there? Or do they not speak the Alemanic dialect?
        And let's look at Norway. Is there Sami language missing?
        Or in Finland Swedish for a company with Sami disappeared?

        And how do these small (and at times simply tiny!) States have existed for decades, or even hundreds of years?
        And they don’t disappear, even being close to strong neighbors ...
        1. Brother Sarych
          +5
          19 February 2012 14: 49
          I don’t fully understand your idea - yes, in Finland the second Swedish state - why are there problems with the Russian in Latvia?
          So Finland does not tolerate the language of the former metropolis and does not blather, it does not even occur to anyone to doubt this, but is this a threat in Latvia? Which country has NEVER been?
          1. -2
            19 February 2012 15: 02
            Quote: Brother Sarich
            I don’t fully understand your idea - yes, in Finland the second Swedish state - why are there problems with the Russian in Latvia?
            So Finland does not tolerate the language of the former metropolis and does not blather, it does not even occur to anyone to doubt this, but is this a threat in Latvia? Which country has NEVER been?


            Ok, I explain:
            You, if my memory serves me right, started a conversation about the fact that they are doomed to degradation, in order to survive they will have to learn the languages ​​of developed neighbors
            I just tried to prove that small states are by no means doomed to degradation and extinction, regardless of whether they grant equal rights to linguistic minorities or not.
            If provided - excellent, I'm happy for them! If not, then well, these very minorities have to adapt.
            Judging by the results of the referendum, Russian-speaking Latvia are not eager to see their second state language. So, somehow adapt. And, therefore, there is no reason to talk about the degradation of Latvian statehood, in my opinion ...
            1. Brother Sarych
              +1
              19 February 2012 15: 29
              They are degrading from a certain level - and their statehood is a historical misunderstanding ...
              The fact that in some sources was called Latgallia is the original Russian territory ...
              I’m not going to fight them, but I won’t recognize them as a normal state ...
              1. +1
                19 February 2012 15: 58
                Quote: Brother Sarich
                The fact that in some sources was called Latgallia is the original Russian territory ...


                But about this in more detail, please!
                How is the originality of a territory determined?
                1. Brother Sarych
                  +1
                  19 February 2012 16: 03
                  Well, this is a long story dating back centuries - curious things can be found there!
                  Here would be the opportunity to present material evidence - in general it would be funny ...
                  In general, those territories of Russia from Peter belonged, and this is already much more than the history of independent Latvia, which NEVER in history was independent ...
                  1. +3
                    19 February 2012 16: 14
                    Quote: Brother Sarich
                    Well, this is a long story dating back centuries - curious things can be found there!
                    Here would be the opportunity to present material evidence - in general it would be funny ...
                    In general, those territories of Russia from Peter belonged, and this is already much more than the history of independent Latvia, which NEVER in history was independent ...


                    That's right about the material evidence ... In my opinion, this should be guided.
                    And then all sorts of inclinations begin on the "basis" of the "primordial belonging" of this or that territory ...

                    As for whether it was or was not independent - what does it prove? Some 150 years ago there was no Germany, so what, deny the right to the existence of a German state?
                    1. Brother Sarych
                      +1
                      19 February 2012 23: 27
                      150 years ago there was no Federal Republic of Germany, but there were independent German states that were later united by Prussia into a single empire ...
                      Latvia has NEVER been a state, not even its princes or other feudal lords ...
    2. Brother Sarych
      -1
      19 February 2012 14: 42
      And you have strange linguistics - no one has ever compared a dialect with a language ...
      In Switzerland - Romansh, but it doesn’t matter ...
      1. +2
        19 February 2012 15: 04
        Quote: Brother Sarich
        In Switzerland - Romansh, but it doesn’t matter ...


        No, it’s romance. Google Atlas of small languages ​​of Europe, if interested ...
        1. Brother Sarych
          -1
          19 February 2012 15: 25
          There wasn’t such a division before - they’ve recently come up with, but to me, to put it mildly ...
          1. +3
            19 February 2012 15: 32
            Quote: Brother Sarich
            There wasn’t such a division before - you’ve come up with the idea lately ...


            Well, this is their problem, IMHO.
            They can come up with at least an elven one ...
            1. Brother Sarych
              +2
              19 February 2012 15: 37
              It seems that they divided the languages ​​for a clearer division of countries, such as in Italy, their own language, in this canton ... And less illusions about unification by language - or even in Italy, the North began to covet about separation from the South ...
  17. savelij
    -7
    19 February 2012 13: 57
    And why is the Russian Foreign Ministry silent? Where is the vaunted Lavrov? Why not protect the rights of the Russian-speaking population?
    1. +4
      19 February 2012 14: 17
      This is an internal matter of Latvia and there were no violations in the referendum. We can regret the results, but there are no reasons for interference, so do not touch Lavrov
  18. Dynamite
    +3
    19 February 2012 14: 01
    It was naive to expect anything else. If you try some Azerbaijani with us, the second one will have the same effect. Since the European Union has not yet forced Latvia to reconsider its attitude towards Russian-speaking "Negroes", then this is the policy of Europe as a whole.
    1. Dynamite
      0
      19 February 2012 14: 11
      I do not understand ... Either IP is not correctly determined, or Our Kremlin medveputs gave Sweden the Arkhangelsk ...
      1. +1
        19 February 2012 15: 18
        Do not pay attention, this is a confusion in the routing of Internet providers. In Sweden, one of the largest communication centers is located.
        But the flag is somehow not Swedish at all. smile
        1. marc
          -1
          19 February 2012 15: 42
          Not in Sweden, but in Switzerland there is a synchronization center, there are only four of them in the world.
  19. +1
    19 February 2012 14: 03
    But was it worth waiting for something else?
  20. +6
    19 February 2012 14: 05
    Roman75: So what ?! Truth?!
    And so it existed, existed for hundreds of years, and then suddenly once - and disappear ?!
    And as soon as tiny European states managed to survive in such a situation ...


    Not once. And about 40 years old. It will be like Albania, with a small, old population.
    Everything has already been divided, all the niches in the old woman of Europe have long been occupied. And in order to occupy some of them, it is necessary to push some sort of Portugal or the Netherlands from there .. And judging by offended posts such as the Tambov wolf, all their efforts and aspirations are aimed at and spent on disengaging from their original neighbors.
    in short, they are trying to get into the upper echelon of highly developed countries by trampling the once great power. But Russia, and so far, the Power, may not be great now (a matter of time, this is not the first time we are rising)! But what is, was Ukraine. It is foolishly hoping (and in fact, what remains for such wolves ???) that after 50 years, acting in the same spirit as now, it will rise even to the level of an average European country!
    And to bark at a stumbling elephant is a wolf low and cowardly - a pug (read Krylova).
    1. +3
      19 February 2012 14: 26
      Quote: Pilgrim

      Piligrim

      Thank you for your support, and many have tried to bark at Russia; appearances ended, as a rule, in a garbage dump drinks
  21. +1
    19 February 2012 15: 14
    about 320 of thousands of “non-citizens” did not have the right to participate: after the separation of Latvia from the Soviet Union, they were deprived of citizenship, and at the same time their voting rights.
    Here it is fascism on the face, in the superiority of one nation over another! Why are you silent at close range without seeing the social genocide - well-fed and "correct" Europe?
    1. -1
      19 February 2012 15: 52
      Quote: taseka
      Here it is fascism on the face ...


      For starters, before throwing accusations, at least decide - fascism or Nazism.

      And then, having thought, explain, where in fascist legal norms are legislatively fixed in Latvia?
      Are there officially recognized the principles of corporatism? Or are political parties eliminated except one ruling?

      And on the other hand - if in Latvia yes, fascism, then your words are completely meaningless ... For fascism just denied the racial basis of the formation of the state ...
      1. Odesit
        +1
        19 February 2012 17: 30
        Roman 75.
        Two SS divisions, staffed by Latvians - taking the oath of allegiance to the German Reich and Adolf Aloizovich - personally, not Latvia, is that how ?!
        Or the campaigns of these old "warriors" for the mercy of freedom in Riga does not demonstrate this with all clarity ?!
        Take a closer look, they even wear Germanic Iron Crosses without hiding it!
        And what are the stripes of the "PERKONKRUST" society !? (an extreme right-wing grouping of a completely National Socialist wing with an admixture of hatred for the Slavs and Russians in particular).
        Open your eyes Roman!
        1. +1
          19 February 2012 19: 45
          Quote: Odess
          Two SS divisions, staffed by Latvians - taking the oath of allegiance to the German Reich and Adolf Aloizovich - personally, not Latvia, is that how ?!
          Or the campaigns of these old "warriors" for the mercy of freedom in Riga does not demonstrate this with all clarity ?!
          Take a closer look, they even wear Germanic Iron Crosses without hiding it!
          And what are the stripes of the "PERKONKRUST" society !? (an extreme right-wing grouping of a completely National Socialist wing with an admixture of hatred for the Slavs and Russians in particular).
          Open your eyes Roman!


          Remind about the Russian SS formation? ...
          And "Iron Crosses" are allowed even in denazified Germany ...
          Well, that’s true, by the way ... It’s irrelevant.
          Actually the essence of the issue:
          1) How do the actions of Germany from the time of Hitler and then Latvia correlate with the doctrines of FASCISM precisely, as soon as it came to him?
          2) The main question is - what side do the modern legislation and law enforcement practice of Latvia relate to the events of seventy years ago?
          The fact that the authorities so sluggishly react or do not react at all to open manifestations of extremism is an undoubted minus. But, excuse me, it’s not the state that produces these figures ...
        2. karla
          +1
          19 February 2012 21: 04
          Quote: Odess
          Two SS divisions, staffed by Latvians - taking the oath of allegiance to the German Reich and Adolf Aloizovich - personally, not Latvia, is that how ?!

          I think you should not touch such a sensitive topic. Moreover, the Russians have nothing to boast of. Most of the former Russians in the Wehrmacht were Cossacks.
          Among all the warring states of World War II, the highest percentage of political and military collaboration was noted among Soviet citizens [2]. The phenomenon was massive [3]. Its main reasons were the dissatisfaction of a significant [3] part of the citizens of the USSR with Soviet power (including collectivization), as well as the ongoing anti-Soviet activity of the White Guard emigration - especially that part of it that took an “implacable position”, and with the outbreak of World War II the position of "defeatism" [3]: 20
          1st Russian National Army
          Russian building
          Muravyov Battalion
          1st Russian National Team of the SS "Druzhina"
          Russian People's National Army
          29th SS Division (First Russian) (Russian Liberation People's Army)
          30th SS Division (Second Russian)

          Russian Liberation Army
          SS Regiment "Varyag"
          Regiment SS "Desna"
          Russian personnel in the SS division Charlemagne
          Russian personnel in the SS division "Dirlewanger"

          Zuev’s squad
          Muravyov Battalion
          Combat Union of Russian Nationalists (BSRN)
          Brotherhood of Russian Truth
          Higher German school for Russian officers
          Division Russia also - Russland Division
          Volunteer SS regiment "Varyag"
          Green Special Forces
          Cossack Stan
          Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (CONR)
          Lokot Republic
          People's Socialist Party
          Labor Union of Russian Solidarists
          Zeppelin Organization
          Republic of Zueva
          RONA
          ROA
          Russian civilian auxiliary police, Sevastopol
          Russian building
          Russian detachment of the 9th Wehrmacht Army
          Russian National Labor Party
          Russian fascist party
          Khivi
          Russian auxiliary police (schutzmannschaft)
          15-th Cossack Cavalry Corps SS
          The 1-th Russian national SS brigade "Druzhina", also known as the 1-th Russian national SS detachment
          29-I Grenadier Division of the SS (Russian Nr.1)
          30-I Grenadier Division of the SS (2-I Russian)

          Air Force KONR (Air Force ROA)
          1-I division ROA / VS KONR (600-infantry division of the Wehrmacht)
          2-I division ROA / VS CONR (650-I infantry division)
          600-I Russian division of the Wehrmacht
          602th East Battalion
          645-th Battalion
          In total, more than 1.5 million troops
          1. Dust
            0
            19 February 2012 21: 22
            But this is once again a lie!
            You repeated the old tale, many times refuted ...
            There have never been 1,5 million, although there were quite a few - I am just bored of repeating the refutation ...
            1. karla
              +1
              19 February 2012 21: 35
              Quote: Dust
              There have never been 1,5 million, although there were quite a few - I’m just bored of repeating the refutation

              Actually, this is from the WIKI and without taking into account civilian hired support in the troops (almost 3 million), refute it with a reference. I will be glad to admit the mistake.
              1. Dust
                -2
                19 February 2012 23: 51
                I’m not going to paint everything for you - I personally fought with yours for three years on this topic, because someone will definitely come back to her in order to show what kind of Russians ... patriots ..
                During the war years a lot of people sided with the Germans and not a single normal person will argue with this, but ...
                Take a closer look at the list - firstly, the overwhelming number of items NEVER existed SIMULTANEOUSLY, secondly, the name of a division or brigade or regiment extremely rarely corresponded to its name, thirdly, the list contains completely incomparable formations, such as parties and alliances and military units , you can continue to continue ...
                It’s a pity the Izvestia forum has not been preserved - there on this subject there were only fluff and feathers from your brother flying ...
                The real figure is almost an order of magnitude lower - this is relative to those who were in arms ...
          2. -2
            19 February 2012 21: 43
            ...... Who would argue ........
            Only here is the hassle of what ...... In Russia, unlike the Baltic countries, and Western Ukraine, it does not occur to anyone to arrange the processions of Russian SS-Soviets along the central streets ...... and make war criminals heroes ... ..
            1. karla
              0
              19 February 2012 22: 06
              Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
              Only here is the hassle of what ...... In Russia, unlike the Baltic countries, and Western Ukraine, it does not occur to anyone to arrange the processions of Russian SS-Soviets along the central streets ...... and make war criminals heroes ... ..

              Not yet enough. RF in this can be set as an example to many countries.
              It was just about something else.
          3. BAT
            -1
            19 February 2012 23: 13
            Yes, we had traitors. And there were a lot of them. But the most important thing is that now no one elevates them to the rank of heroes and does not name the streets by their names. We have the streets of them. Bandera, street them. Shukhevych. We have no streets to them. Vlasova ...
            1. 0
              19 February 2012 23: 26
              Quote: sichevik
              But the most important thing is that now no one elevates them to the rank of heroes and does not name the streets by their names. We have the streets of them. Bandera, street them. Shukhevych. We have no streets to them. Vlasova ...


              Ага.
              Only the Vlasov Museum was nearly opened ...
              1. +1
                19 February 2012 23: 31
                in general, with Vlasov, it’s not very, very simple, by the way, in the German ragrom near Moscow, oh, what a small merit
              2. BAT
                0
                19 February 2012 23: 48
                Well, they didn’t open it, unlike some.
          4. 0
            21 February 2012 17: 34
            These traitors have served, plowed through the streets of Russia with banners and in the form of ROA and others like her, they know that they will receive from the people in the face and from the government too! But in Latvia they go and the authorities give them walk !! Feel the difference?
      2. 0
        20 February 2012 17: 03
        Quote: Roman-75
        For starters, before throwing accusations, at least decide - fascism or Nazism.

        A play on words. Judging by the writings of Nietzsche and the book of Mein Kampf, fascism came out of Nazism!
        1. Courts of Demonstration over Veterans of the Great Patriotic War
        2. Deprivation of their social rights and privileges, and increase in opposition to such SS soldiers and punitive police units.
        3. Demonstration destruction of WWII monuments
        4. The resolution of the parades of fascist youths and veterans of the SS
        5. Installation of memorials and street names.
        This list can be continued and the manifestation of Nazism and the overt ideology of fascism there on the face !!! And you can call all this action whatever you want, though "memorable modeling of historical events for further assimilation in the national understanding of the problem !!! " Plus and there is no longer fascism and nationalism !!!
  22. marc
    +1
    19 February 2012 15: 39
    In general, he lived in the Baltics for 6 years, back in the 70s, his father served in Valga, the border of Estonia with Latvia. I remember proud Estonians on May 9, 81, dug up the skeleton of a WWII veteran in the cemetery and played football with a skull in the central square. Conclusion: why the hell are they needed at all? This base people, prostitutes.
    1. -1
      19 February 2012 16: 19
      Quote: marc
      This base people, prostitutes.


      No need to identify the whole nation with individual freaks.

      Quote: marc
      Conclusion: why the hell are they needed at all?


      A small question - do you use Skype?
      1. marc
        0
        19 February 2012 17: 49
        Instead of skype, there are many other resources, and what’s the biggest achievement that now bow, let them shove their skype in the ass, and they use the periodic table, well, what the hell are you talking about, it’s clear that the Russians are longer ..
        1. -2
          19 February 2012 19: 47
          Quote: marc

          Instead of skype, there are many other resources, and what’s the biggest achievement that now bow, let them shove their skype in the ass, and they use the periodic table, well, what the hell are you talking about, it’s clear that the Russians are longer ..


          So, I wonder why Orthodox Russia is so actively using the godly nasty Chukhon crap? ...
          1. -2
            19 February 2012 20: 15
            Quote: Roman-75
            actively uses godly nasty Chukhonsky crap? ...

            Which one?
            1. +2
              19 February 2012 20: 19
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Which one?


              Yes "Skype" this very.
              As of 2010, there were 7 subscribers in Russia.
              1. Azazel
                -2
                19 February 2012 20: 27
                Maybe because this is the most popular video conferencing program? If she were English, German, American, she would still use it. What does it matter?
              2. -2
                19 February 2012 21: 14
                ??
                Well, actually about the Danes and Swedes there was somehow no conversation
                1. 0
                  19 February 2012 21: 27
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  ??
                  Well, actually about the Danes and Swedes there was somehow no conversation


                  Can't we use wiki?
                  Quoted from here:
                  As of January 2011, Skype had approximately 850 employees, of which 44% (including the majority of Skype software developers) work in Estonia - in the Skype development center in Tallinn and in the Tartu branch.
                  1. -2
                    19 February 2012 21: 35
                    Well, for starters, I mean the founders, further in ESStonia does not mean esta, and generally does not mean that citizens of ESStonia
                    1. -1
                      19 February 2012 21: 55
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Well, for starters, I mean the founders ...


                      The founders of "MiG" a - an Armenian with a Jew. What are the conclusions from this? ...

                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Well, for starters, I mean the founders, further in ESStonia does not mean esta, and generally does not mean that citizens of ESStonia


                      Yeah, then it turns out that the Estonian authorities are able to create conditions where even non-citizens can work in world-class companies?
                      And, therefore, can create favorable conditions for these same companies?
                      Excellent!
                      If only we could ...
                      1. -1
                        19 February 2012 22: 04
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        If only we could ...

                        do you need this ?!
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        The founders of "MiG" a - an Armenian with a Jew. What are the conclusions from this? ...

                        were they citizens of independent Armenia and Israel ?!
                      2. +1
                        19 February 2012 22: 15
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        do you need this ?!


                        We, the Russians.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        were they citizens of independent Armenia and Israel ?!


                        So I’m saying that it doesn’t matter who founded this or that business.
                        The main thing is that the authorities of the territory where it is located do not interfere with business development normally.
                      3. -2
                        19 February 2012 22: 23
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        So I’m saying that it doesn’t matter who founded this or that business.

                        no call the argument went precisely for the one who produces
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        We, the Russians.

                        Well, so we have our product and not imported software is produced quite competitively
                      4. +1
                        19 February 2012 22: 35
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        no call the argument went precisely for the one who produces


                        What kind of argument can this be?
                        It is clearly written there - 44% of workers in Estonia are seated.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Well, so we have our product and not imported software is produced quite competitively


                        Can you tell me the Russian analogue of Skype?
                      5. -1
                        19 February 2012 22: 41
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        Can you tell me the Russian analogue of Skype?

                        and where does the analogue come in, I mean software
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        It is clearly written there - 44% of workers in Estonia are seated.

                        blinnnnn you either do not hear or do not want to hear
                      6. 0
                        19 February 2012 22: 55
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        and where does the analogue come in, I mean software


                        What is Skype if not software?

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        either do not hear or do not want to hear


                        What exactly do you think I don’t hear?
                        You said that the argument went precisely for who produces And judging by the percentage of workers, they produce it in Estonia ...
                      7. -1
                        19 February 2012 22: 58
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        What is Skype if not software?

                        and besides skype software is no more?
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        judging by the percentage of workers, it is in Estonia ...

                        all relax, you started a dispute because of the Chukhons you were told that they weren’t here
                      8. 0
                        19 February 2012 23: 05
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        and besides skype software is no more?


                        We started talking specifically about Estonian software products.
                        By the way, you have not named the analogue of "Skype" ...

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        they started a dispute because of the Chukhites they told you that they weren’t here on one side


                        Yeah? Truth?!
                        Do you know the Skype development team so well?

                        Or is the development center for this product not located in Estonia and the Estonian authorities have nothing to do with it?
                      9. -1
                        19 February 2012 23: 10
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        By the way, you have not named the analogue of "Skype" ...

                        but what does the analogue of Skype have to do with it, I said that in the Russian Federation it produces co-operative software
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        Do you know the Skype development team so well?

                        apparently you know
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        the product development center is not located in Estonia and the Estonian authorities have nothing to do with it?

                        with the same success Renault can also be called a Russian car
                      10. 0
                        19 February 2012 23: 24
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        but what does the analogue of Skype have to do with it, I said that in the Russian Federation it produces co-operative software


                        No need to leave the topic.
                        Here we are not discussing Russian software, but Estonian national and economic policy, of which the Skype development center is a part.

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        apparently you know


                        Of course I don’t know!
                        Therefore, I do not declare that they (Chukhons) no side here...

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        with the same success Renault can also be called a Russian car


                        First of all, did I say that Skype is an Estonian company?
                        Secondly, if Renault locates production facilities, technical centers and dealerships in Russia, the Russian authorities, apparently, have something to do with this?
                      11. -1
                        19 February 2012 23: 30
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        No need to leave the topic.
                        Here we are not discussing Russian software, but Estonian national and economic policy, of which the Skype development center is a part.

                        aside no one is leaving you spread the dimagogy in its purest form Renault is not a Russian car, just like skype is not a product of Estonian production
                      12. Eugene
                        0
                        19 February 2012 22: 58
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        Can you tell me the Russian analogue of Skype?

                        This is somehow about nothing ..

                        For example, you name the Estonian analog of GOST 28-147.89?
                      13. -1
                        20 February 2012 01: 11
                        The creators of the MIG were primarily Soviet designers. Since now the people are spitting on ethnic grounds, I will note about Skype (by the way, a good utility!) That "creators" and programmers-coders are very different things: some have conceived and outlined a general plan, while coders made the order. It's one thing to order, it's another to do it realistically.
                  2. -1
                    20 February 2012 01: 20
                    I read Vicki, it says that they created a Danish company with a Swede, headquarters in Luxembourg ... So, even when they are in Estonia, they are recruiting whom they want, and not whom the government agencies indicate. As far as I know, Estonia does not teach normal programmers; taking into account a certain conditionality of the borders of Estonia and Russia, they could recruit sensible specialists in Russia, in St. Petersburg, for example; I will add that in the structure of the program code there are a lot of comments in Russian ...
    2. +2
      19 February 2012 16: 30
      I don’t understand the same thing.
      Look, people from Central Asia are going silently, they are not pumping rights. But the same thing happened to be more than 50% of the Russian-speaking population. And there (I’ll speak for Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan), no one at the official (yes, enough at the household) level did not limit citizenship and freedom. Yes, language restrictions.
      The people, realized that this was not their house, and tumbled down to their historical homeland.
      But what are these, in the Baltic countries, Russians waiting, gaining? It has its own homeland, with its own mentality. Something here I do not understand them. What can keep them in such an inhospitable country ???
      1. +1
        19 February 2012 16: 43
        Quote: Pilgrim
        I don’t understand the same thing.
        Look, people from Central Asia are going silently, they are not pumping rights. But the same thing happened to be more than 50% of the Russian-speaking population. And there (I’ll speak for Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan), no one at the official (yes, enough at the household) level did not limit citizenship and freedom. Yes, language restrictions.
        The people, realized that this was not their house, and tumbled down to their historical homeland.
        But what are these, in the Baltic countries, Russians waiting, gaining? It has its own homeland, with its own mentality. Something here I do not understand them. What can keep them in such an inhospitable country ???


        Yeah, tell my sister about hospitality ...
        Such benefits, which her daughter (suffering from a rather severe form of allergy) has in Estonia, you will get horseradish in Russia.
        About freedom of movement, level of corruption, competence and attitude to their official duties of the authorities - in general I will not say anything ...
        1. 0
          19 February 2012 18: 45
          Everything is known by comparison. But as for the benefits of allergy, let's go with facts, this and that.
          And about "About freedom of movement, the level of corruption, competence and attitude to their official duties of the authorities - I will not say anything at all ..." do not be silent, tell me. What's the difference "brother"?
          If you are under the level of freedom, you mean the opportunity to speak and celebrate in the squares to the fascists who supported Hitler, then you are an enemy not only to me, but also to your grandfather! You are 36 years old Roma (if this is of course your true name), and your brain ...
          1. +1
            19 February 2012 20: 17
            Quote: Pilgrim
            Everything is known by comparison. But as for the benefits of allergy, let's go with facts, this and that.


            I won’t name the exact number of cash payments, because I don’t remember offhand, I need to talk with my sister and clarify. But I know that the amount is pretty decent.
            Plus, there is a wide list of necessary medicines provided completely free of charge. And this is not what we have (I speak as a person who personally went through this procedure four times) - they will put to the patient what is in the warehouse (all nonsense like cheap pills), and expensive effective drugs will be stolen / sold. No, in Estonia the niece received everything clearly. According to the list and at the agreed time.
            Additionally - spa treatment. Annually, for free, with all the necessary procedures and medicines. My sister said that a couple of times they even offered to undergo treatment in Finland ...
            Another is the opportunity to purchase the necessary dietary products at a discount in special stores or pharmacies.

            Quote: Pilgrim
            And about "About freedom of movement, the level of corruption, competence and attitude to their official duties of the authorities - I will not say anything at all ..." do not be silent, tell me. What's the difference "brother"?


            Difference?
            Yes, at least in the actions of the Estonian traffic police and our cops from the traffic police!
            The sister’s husband told how our people react, only when they see Estonian numbers ... Especially in the Caucasus ... Although, in general, in Central Russia it’s a little better.
            In order to formalize all matters related to cars, apartments, studies, in Estonia it is enough for my relatives to go to the appropriate institution once / twice, spending a minimum of time and effort. And the officials at the same time smiling and doing their best pretend that they’re just fainting to see such a dear guest ... Compare with Russian reality ...
            And many such examples can be given.

            Quote: Pilgrim
            If you are under the level of freedom, you mean the opportunity to speak and celebrate in the squares to the fascists who supported Hitler, then you are an enemy not only to me, but also to your grandfather! You are 36 years old Roma (if this is of course your true name), and your brain ...


            But what do you (as far as I know, we didn’t drink at Brudershaft) know about my grandfathers in order to touch them ?!

            Under freedom of movement (and it was about this in my post) I understood that Estonian citizens have long been using Schengen results, that Europe is much more open for them than Russians, that in Estonia, in the end, a policeman does not cling to a person street only on the grounds that he does not have a capital registration / registration ....
        2. -2
          19 February 2012 20: 50
          Sorry for the question your sister is a full citizen of Latvia, or her daughter has become a citizen by birthright?
          1. +1
            19 February 2012 21: 35
            Quote: olegyurjewitch
            Sorry for the question your sister is a full citizen of Latvia, or her daughter has become a citizen by birthright?


            I already wrote that I can’t say for Latvia, I don’t know exactly the situation there, however, I believe that if people don’t flee en masse from there, and even give such results in referenda, then it’s not so bad ...
      2. karla
        +1
        19 February 2012 20: 57
        Quote: Pilgrim
        But what are these, in the Baltic countries, Russians waiting, gaining? It has its own homeland, with its own mentality. Something here I do not understand them. What can keep them in such an inhospitable country ??

        I think everything is much simpler. In Latvia, it’s better than in Russia, otherwise the people would simply rush back to the Russian Federation. There is another reason that I still don’t see there. Maybe I'm wrong? Explain
        1. -1
          19 February 2012 21: 18
          karla,
          Quote: karla
          I think everything is much simpler. In Latvia it is better than in Russia

          the deepest error, in Kyrgyzstan the same asshole, but not everyone got lost, firstly we are inert enough, secondly we need money to break up, and thirdly, many are afraid of the unknown
          1. +1
            19 February 2012 21: 36
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            the deepest error, in the same Kyrgyzstan a complete ass, but far from all rushed ...


            And how many percent of the Russian-speaking population in Kyrgyzstan are left, can you tell?
          2. +1
            19 February 2012 22: 12
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            the deepest error, in Kyrgyzstan the same asshole, but not everyone got lost, firstly we are inert enough, secondly we need money to break up, and thirdly, many are afraid of the unknown


            Apparently, I will not wait for an answer about the percentage of Russian-speakers in Kyrgyzstan ...
            I have to look for materials myself:
            The ethnic composition of the population of Kyrgyzstan
            Russian according to the 1959 census - 30,2%
            according to the results of the 2009 census - 7,82%

            Yeah, if the outflow is more than 3/4 - this is far from all rushed, then what then is "all"? !!
            By the way, something is not observed from the Baltic states, fortunately ...
            1. -1
              19 February 2012 22: 15
              Quote: Roman-75
              Apparently, I won’t wait for an answer about the percentage of Russian-speakers in Kyrgyzstan ... I have to look for materials myself

              you forgive me, but I don’t need to tell you about the situation in Kyrgyzstan or the Republic of Kazakhstan, by the way, two revolutions contributed to the big outflow and Osh events when people fled in that they were dressed, so it was not necessary.
              I know many who would love to leave Kazakhstan, but they cannot sell apartments, and no one needs them without money
              1. +2
                19 February 2012 22: 27
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                you forgive me, but I don’t need to tell you about the situation in Kyrgyzstan or the Republic of Kazakhstan, by the way, two revolutions contributed to the big outflow and Osh events when people fled in that they were dressed, so it was not necessary.
                I know many who would love to leave Kazakhstan, but they cannot sell apartments, and without money they don’t need anyone


                Well, by selling an apartment, for example, in Tallinn, you can get an amount sufficient to purchase housing somewhere in a regional Russian city. But something is not wanted to perform such an operation ...
                By the way, your words about "revolutions" and Osh perfectly describe the situation. In the Baltics, thank God, there was nothing even remotely similar and is not present ...
                1. 0
                  19 February 2012 22: 30
                  Quote: Roman-75
                  In the Baltic states, thank God, there was nothing even remotely similar and is not ...

                  just no one was swinging
                  Quote: Roman-75
                  somewhere in a regional Russian city.

                  Nuuu actually move is not an end in itself, because having crossed it you need to get a job, I want to eat
                  1. 0
                    19 February 2012 22: 37
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    just no one was swinging


                    Because the Balts do not need this fuck!

                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Nuuu actually move is not an end in itself, because having crossed it you need to get a job, I want to eat


                    And the refugees from Central Asia, you see, were waiting for finished housing and jobs, screeching with impatience?
                    1. 0
                      19 February 2012 22: 39
                      Quote: Roman-75
                      Because the Balts do not need this fuck!

                      do not confuse others, you might think the Kyrgyz needed it
                      Quote: Roman-75
                      And refugees from Central Asia

                      most of them are not refugees, but people who managed to sell real estate, I repeat once again I don’t need it for the situation in Asia, I lived there for 38 years, in addition, it is extremely incorrect to compare the situation in Asian republics and the Baltic states
                      1. 0
                        19 February 2012 22: 46
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        You might think the Kyrgyz needed it


                        Well managed to rock? So, probably, all the same it was necessary ...

                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        most are not refugees but people who managed to sell real estate


                        You already somehow decide - or people fled in what was on, or people who managed to sell real estate And then somehow it turns out dissonance ...
                        And then - in the Baltic States selling real estate is not an example easier and simpler. And more money will be given for her. But the Russian speakers do not run away from there for some reason ...
                      2. 0
                        19 February 2012 22: 51
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        Well managed to rock? So, probably, you still had to

                        if it weren’t necessary, it would have been necessary and the Baltic states were rocked and no one asked the Baltic states
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        You already somehow decide - or people fled in what was on us, or people who managed to sell real estate

                        fled from kyrgyzstan when the massacre was just sorry that kyrgyzstan spit wet will be from the rk left purposefully and with money
                        Quote: Roman-75
                        And more money will be given for her

                        firstly how much, secondly once again compare Asia and the Baltic
                      3. +1
                        19 February 2012 23: 07
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Compare Asia and the Baltic


                        Exactly!
                        In the Baltic, Russian-speaking is incomparably better living ....
                      4. 0
                        19 February 2012 23: 12
                        this is a moot point, one thing is exactly what is more comfortable if only because visually they are also Europeans
      3. -1
        19 February 2012 21: 16
        Quote: Pilgrim
        The people, understood that this was not their home, and tumbled down to their historical homeland. But what are these Russians waiting for in the Baltic states to gain? It has its own homeland, with its own mentality. Something here I do not understand them. What can keep them in such an inhospitable country ???

        Well, first of all, as you put it, those who either had money or were able to sell their apartments in such a way as to buy housing in the Russian Federation fell, but now not many can do it
        not as easy as it seems while sitting on a sofa or a computer
  23. serge
    +1
    19 February 2012 15: 56
    But Latgale (a third of Latvia from the east) voted for the Russian language. It would be necessary to help friendly Latgale in gaining sovereignty.
    1. Odesit
      +1
      19 February 2012 16: 59
      In Latgale we have more than Latvians.
      The entire business of Latvia is in the hands of the Russians, in the police, there are a lot of officers of the old school, the army as such does not exist, the prosecutor's office is corrupt - "refusal material" for a not serious crime costs 200 lats - up to 2000 lats. Everything is simple like everywhere else in the world. It does not smell of any "democracy". The best traditions of the USA -30s.
      In vain "labuses" behave this way. Obviously they do not understand - no one will help them if we wish to return our own lands back !! NATO will not go into conflict with RUSSIA under any conditions.
      We repeat the old scenario and give people back the right to consider themselves people, and we will again build our country officers' dachas in Prekul, Jurmala and Saulkrast.
      And it’s really beautiful there, nature is simply magnificent!
      On the other hand, in the Trans-Baikal Territory it is even more beautiful - the city of Chita (I can not forget the beauty of the Chita hills).
  24. Uncle Serozha
    +1
    19 February 2012 16: 55
    And the Lord said to proud Latvians: “You will speak Russian, or German!”
    "No!" - said proud Latvians - “we’d ​​better all die out!”.
    "No problem!" - said the Lord - “but those who inhabit these territories will still speak Russian, or German ...”


    In general, they can be understood - they are afraid of the disappearance of their language. And in the USSR, he certainly would not have disappeared — this was taken care of. Although they don’t remember ...
    1. motors
      0
      14 March 2012 21: 36
      What are the wrecks?
      All Latvians should have understood this in Russian, those who left after 1940 most often did not bother studying the local language ....
  25. -1
    19 February 2012 17: 30
    What to be surprised at the results, if non-citizens ... do not vote ..
    An interesting movie ... non-citizens.
    Where are our "planters" of civil rights and freedoms?
    For Syria - the friends of Syria are fighting ..
    For non-citizens of Latvia-do not fight ..
    That's the whole layout - non-civil ... Non-citizens - and therefore no rights ...
    Ay, well done, ah thought up.
    And Europe - sniffles, is silent in a rag.
    It would be necessary to drive our "Marsh" and the Toad there - let them gossip about the rigged referendum.
  26. Regularis
    +1
    19 February 2012 18: 37
    Well cho head counting commission counted yes
    It should be noted that about 320 thousand "non-citizens" did not have the right to participate in the referendum

    This is not even a violation of human rights, it is Ordinary Fascism! am
  27. abyss 8
    0
    19 February 2012 18: 52
    Oh my God! how many comments on such a topical topic for a Russian person! laughing and what to do then with such a "naughty" Latvia? .. what are the recipes?
    1. Kremlin
      -3
      19 February 2012 19: 23
      Quote: Abyss 8
      how many comments on such a topical topic for a Russian person!

      just for Russian, but why there is so much unnecessary irony in this topic of the Russian language from a Ukrainian or almost a Ukrainian, or maybe not a Ukrainian at all, but another bot troll am
      1. abyss 8
        0
        19 February 2012 20: 06
        "the topic of the Russian language from a Ukrainian or almost a Ukrainian or maybe not a Ukrainian at all, but another troll's bot" - ahah, the local "smersh" does not sleep lol but is there anything on the topic? ..
    2. marc
      -2
      19 February 2012 19: 36
      Definitely bombing with shit bombs!
  28. 0
    19 February 2012 18: 54
    Grandfather was telling army recruits there ... So NO ONE had normal shoes ... Or bast shoes or something like a sub ... B ... And right now Europe ...
    1. karla
      +3
      19 February 2012 21: 15
      Quote: ward
      Grandfather was telling army recruits there ... So NO ONE had normal shoes ... Or bast shoes or something like a sub

      How do I understand the lack of shoes made them second-class people?
      1. -2
        20 February 2012 01: 26
        Not that was meant. the ward wanted to say that they were very poor people, that it was Russia that brought them to a certain prosperity and self-awareness, which before the 2nd World War they did not have, and now they separated for everything good (and there was good, not only evil!) spit in the face ...
        Ward, did I get it right?
  29. -2
    19 February 2012 19: 08
    Latvia is an American sucker and everything that happens to humiliate Russia.
  30. -1
    19 February 2012 19: 28
    And h..r with them. In general, as little diplomatic and economic ties as possible with them! Perhaps without sprats in oil we will not die drinks
    1. marc
      +1
      19 February 2012 19: 55
      They will die without us, it reminds a dog trying to bite its tail.
  31. PabloMsk
    -2
    19 February 2012 20: 09
    I support the decision of the Latvian referendum.

    The state language should be one.
    Anytime and anywhere!!!

    The same is absolutely true for Russia.
    And Russian-speaking citizens of Latvia themselves chose their place of residence.
    If Russia is such a defender of Russians, let them fully pay for their move to Russia at our expense ...

    I’m not going to pay for their move!
    The family lives from paycheck to paycheck!
    1. +3
      19 February 2012 20: 16
      Quote: PabloMsk
      I’m not going to pay for their move! The family lives from paycheck to paycheck!

      I sympathize with the family, and the position is nasty
    2. andrklimanov
      0
      19 February 2012 20: 29
      very "patriotic" am
    3. 0
      20 February 2012 20: 39
      If you are not satisfied with the salary, try to work. And Russian-speaking inhabitants and citizens of Latvia always lived there. My wife's ancestors (Poles and Russians) have lived in Latgale for at least 300 years.
  32. andrklimanov
    -1
    19 February 2012 20: 27
    I think so, it is necessary to raise our science, industry, economy, in general, the whole country to the highest level to become the "flagship of the planet" and abandon the English language, THEY ALL THEY will begin to learn our language !!! in the meantime, they don't put us in ... why do they need our language?
    1. karla
      +2
      19 February 2012 21: 17
      Quote: andrklimanov
      I think so, it is necessary to raise our science, industry, economy, in general, the whole country to the highest level to become the "flagship of the planet" and abandon the English language, THEY ALL THEY will begin to learn our language !!! in the meantime, they don't put us in ... why do they need our language?

      I wonder what the Chinese think about this?
      Quote: andrklimanov

      I think so, we need to raise our science, industry, economy, in general, the whole country to the highest level to become "the flagship of the planet

      But this is correct. Language is not important
  33. -2
    19 February 2012 20: 56
    It is very difficult to hold a referendum when more people in need of this have the status of a non-citizen, i.e. not human, isn't it fascism? Those, too, Jews were not recognized at first ....
    Today I saw an interview of one old lady, a lady from Latvia, got amused, she is fully confident that this referendum is a provocation of Russia .... God, where are we going ?!
    1. karla
      -1
      19 February 2012 21: 19
      Quote: IrOqUoIs
      Today I saw an interview of one old lady, a lady from Latvia, got amused, she is fully confident that this referendum is a provocation of Russia .... God, where are we going ?!

      Read the comments, the Russian Federation thinks that everything that is bad in the Russian Federation is a provocation or subversive activity of the us.
      Quote: IrOqUoIs
      ..What are we going to ?!
  34. Oleg0705
    0
    19 February 2012 21: 07
    The Russian “barbarians” burst into Lithuania and obliterated fascism ... left, leaving behind schools, hospitals, theaters, factories, museums and libraries .. bully
  35. realse
    +1
    19 February 2012 21: 20
    Gavorit here everyone knows how to, of which only one of you beat in Latvia ??? so that they’re getting smarter and look at how the Nazis march on our roads in Latvia laughing , voices himself, against two languages
    1. -1
      19 February 2012 21: 37
      Quote: realse
      Golosova himself, against two languages

      judging by how you wrote it, no wonder fool
    2. 0
      20 February 2012 00: 16
      He lived in Riga until the age of 19, and now his parents are buried there and many relatives live. I visit Riga and D-Pils up to 3 times a year. In Latvia, the Nazis march on roads, on March 16, led by members of the government and delegates of the Latvian Saima. ALL Latvians voted against bilingualism. The voting was held under the slogan "Latvian Latvia". A third of the population is non-human for you.
  36. andrklimanov
    -1
    19 February 2012 21: 24
    Quote: karla
    But this is correct. Language is not important


    The main thing!!! but about the flagship of the planet it’s a metaphor; Russians, unlike the Germans, never wanted to and don’t want to attack anyone else.
    do not find fault with words if there is nothing to say it is better to remain silent love
    with no love for you CHESHIRE
  37. biglow
    0
    19 February 2012 21: 27
    in Ukraine, we need a referendum on the abolition of the Molotov Ribentrop Pact, all in the name of the triumph of humanism and justice. As referenda are being gagged *, the population of southeastern Ukraine is enough to collect votes.
  38. andrklimanov
    +1
    19 February 2012 21: 31
    realse,
    it can be seen!!! against two at once !!! write better in Latvian so it will be more understandable wassat
  39. andrklimanov
    -2
    19 February 2012 21: 33
    Quote: realse
    Gavorit here everyone knows how to, of which only one of you beat in Latvia ??? so that they’re getting smaller and look at how in our country the Nazis marching on the roads in Latvia laughing, voices himself, against two languages

    it can be seen!!! against two at once !!! write better in Latvian so it will be more understandable wassat
  40. Uncle Serozha
    +1
    19 February 2012 21: 57
    I am glad that karlaand realseopposing the Russian language do it ... in that very Russian language! laughing

    Well done guys, you are on the right track! good

    Announcement at the train station in Riga:
    “Who will leave last - please turn off the lights at the station!”
  41. Oleg0705
    0
    19 February 2012 22: 27
    Uncle Seryozha,
    Announcement at the train station in Riga:
    “Who will leave last - please turn off the lights at the station!”
    approve ... bully
  42. Draize
    +1
    19 February 2012 22: 40
    The result is obvious! This is not Ukraine where the assimilation of the Ukrainian language into Russian is inevitable!
  43. Jancis
    0
    20 February 2012 04: 06
    Ko Labu apsprieam?
  44. Jancis
    0
    20 February 2012 04: 08
    Ko Labu apsprieam? Par Referendumu? drinks
  45. Jancis
    0
    20 February 2012 04: 09
    Ko Labu apsprieam? Par referendumu? drinks
  46. Jancis
    0
    20 February 2012 04: 10
    Vei, vis ir okey, nesaspringstam drinks
  47. Jancis
    -1
    20 February 2012 04: 11
    Vis ir Okey, nesaspringstam drinks
    1. -3
      20 February 2012 05: 28
      am Do you have Fascism? -We are coming to you! ....... About 40% of Riga residents and more than 85% of residents of the second largest city in Latvia - Daugavpils - have voted in favor of granting the Russian language the status of the second state language in a referendum in the Baltic republic, according to data local CEC. RIA News....... good
  48. +1
    20 February 2012 04: 27
    Most citizens are against Russian as a second state language
    Not surprising! In the absence of the right to vote for "Russians unrecognized by the citizens of Lithuania", this is the same as declaring an amnesty in a colony - though only for service personnel.
  49. Jancis
    -2
    20 February 2012 19: 03
    Palasot samejos tekstus, nak prataa tikai viens- Agresori .... piedodiet, bet tas te labi izpauzas!
    1. -1
      20 February 2012 20: 32
      Fortunately, this is a Russian-language forum, and I do not wish to communicate with you in Latvian or another language !!!! There are arguments, please - IN GREAT AND POWERFUL, RUSSIAN!
      1. Jancis
        +1
        22 February 2012 03: 37
        Da, Da Ti praf drinks In the great Russian language am
    2. -1
      20 February 2012 20: 42
      am laughing bully Write in German !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....... am You read here ???? Do you know Russian? !!!! Great and mighty. WRITE in Russian! Or go to ... er
  50. 0
    20 February 2012 21: 00
    Immediately after the victory of the opponents of giving the Russian language the status of the state language in Latvia, the referendum organizers had problems - the local special services took up them.

    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/66985/
  51. SL.Kocegar
    0
    21 February 2012 09: 27
    It’s time to revive the Latvian riflemen
  52. Ragnarov
    0
    23 February 2012 14: 55
    It was too early: there are still too many mutual insults :(
  53. r.anoshkin
    +2
    24 February 2012 09: 57
    The very holding of a referendum means recognition of respect for the Russian-speaking population, and if you don’t want to learn the language of the country of residence, this is already disrespect for the country. If you like to live “like in the West,” live by their rules or go to your “historical homeland.” Although often the behavior of the “Balts” “reminiscent of the behavior of “offended kindergarteners,” but this is their country and their right and we must put up with it.
  54. -1
    24 February 2012 23: 26
    Russia must actively protect its compatriots abroad. Set conditions for countries that violate the rights of Russian speakers, warn them, and apply economic sanctions. After all, pressing them is a couple of trifles, refuse to sell them gas, for example, and they will immediately become like silk. Look at what the United States and Europe are doing, almost everything is not according to them - immediately an embargo, and this brings results, Russia should also adopt the same methods, with the same Ukraine, with the Baltic states.
  55. motors
    0
    14 March 2012 21: 26
    1. In Latvia, Russians make up about 30% Latishei 59%

    2. The only difference between citizens and non-citizens is the right to vote in elections. All social and other government guarantees are no different.
    (For those who throw loud phrases about fascism and the like)

    3. Before the War in Latvia, there were 12% Russians and 76% Latishians. After the war and the incorporation of Latvia into the USSR, masses from other republics poured into Latvia, and by 1990 in Latvia there were only 52% Latish. If the USSR had not collapsed, the Latish would have become a minority.

    4. What they say about discrimination is bullshit, because in reality, in the service sector, work without knowledge of Russian and Latvian cannot be found. The same thing applies to work in municipalities. Just in case, there is even a translator available.


    5. If there were discrimination against Russians, would the state maintain Russian schools, theaters, libraries and also finance broadcasting in Russian in state media?

    6. There are NO problems with naturalization - The state supports free programs for teaching the state language + if you live in a country where they speak Latvian everywhere, how can you not teach him in 10 or even 20 years?