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  1. Banishing liberoids Rank
    Banishing liberoids
    +2
    13 March 2017 07: 36
    It is possible to shoot only from the spot, because in motion the gun will swing the truck strongly, you can forget about the accuracy of the fire.
    1. Orionvit Rank
      Orionvit
      + 11
      13 March 2017 07: 48
      Maybe on the contrary, the accuracy of the fire is affected by the fact that the truck swings the gun during movement. winked
      1. Azim77 Rank
        Azim77
        +2
        13 March 2017 07: 56
        Both judgments are true, because both the firing gun and the moving truck are sources of shaking. CEP hi Nevertheless, such a symbiosis is already a formidable and serious weapon, in comparison with any jihadomobiles.
        1. Orionvit Rank
          Orionvit
          +2
          13 March 2017 08: 03
          Well, the truck doesn't really care whether it's fired while moving or not, especially since the recoil from the 47mm cannon is not significant for the KAMAZ. But it definitely affects the shooting accuracy. Try shooting while moving, at least from a rifle, and see the result.
        2. Alex_Rarog Rank
          Alex_Rarog
          +2
          13 March 2017 08: 44
          It turns out to be a nasty tachanka) under favorable circumstances, the armored personnel carrier will take it apart like two fingers)
      2. Nikolaevich I Rank
        Nikolaevich I
        +2
        13 March 2017 09: 38
        Quote: Orionvit
        Maybe on the contrary, the accuracy of the fire is affected by the fact that during the movement the truck swings the gun

        And so ..... "neither yours, nor ours ..." During the movement, the truck swings the cannon, and the cannon swings the truck during the fire ... in the end, it’s full "naturlich"! tongue
        1. Marksman Rank
          Marksman
          0
          13 March 2017 09: 56
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Quote: Orionvit
          Maybe on the contrary, the accuracy of the fire is affected by the fact that during the movement the truck swings the gun

          And so ..... "neither yours, nor ours ..." During the movement, the truck swings the cannon, and the cannon swings the truck during the fire ... in the end, it’s full "naturlich"! tongue


          Video of cars and trucks firing from a place = 1000, in motion = 10 (?) (I have not seen a single one, really).
          Therefore, the issue of firing in motion is not worth the trouble.
    2. bouncyhunter Rank
      bouncyhunter
      +4
      13 March 2017 07: 49
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      It is possible to shoot only from the spot, because in motion the gun will swing the truck strongly, you can forget about the accuracy of the fire.

      So after all, if the gun hits the flank, then it will easily lie on the recoil and on its side ... belay
      1. 34 region Rank
        34 region
        +3
        13 March 2017 08: 07
        07.49. Boyhanter! Pasha! The loaf is vigorous! I don’t know what they did there. But I think people did not stupid. To prevent the machine from turning over, there are retractable stops on truck cranes. If they put the gun on the platform of a truck crane or a television tower, then that means there are stops. I drive the trucks myself, I drive myself. They do not turn over during loading and unloading.
        1. bouncyhunter Rank
          bouncyhunter
          +3
          13 March 2017 08: 11
          This is clear . But only in the photo I’m not focusing something! hi
          1. 34 region Rank
            34 region
            +2
            13 March 2017 08: 21
            08.11/XNUMX. Boyhanter! Pash! Similarly! Maybe someone else will post the photo in more detail. And of course it's unclear.
            1. Pajamas Rank
              Pajamas
              +1
              13 March 2017 14: 55
              With a target range of 3 to 10 km, why shoot from the side, why not from the stern, but from the side in principle no problems are visible, but it is true and depends on tactics short bursts of 2-3 shells.


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  2. Banishing liberoids Rank
    Banishing liberoids
    +1
    13 March 2017 07: 37
    We don’t even have any primitive home-made armored protection !!!
    1. Zoldat_A Rank
      Zoldat_A
      +6
      13 March 2017 07: 52
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      We don’t even have any primitive home-made armored protection !!!

      Yes, I don’t remember that the anti-aircraft gunners would ever have at least some normal protection ... Of course, if we talk about machine-gun (from the Great Patriotic War) and cannon systems.
      Yes, and they should not fight alone. They taught us SO ...
  3. Nix1986 Rank
    Nix1986
    +1
    13 March 2017 07: 47
    Wow news, just a sensation !!! And the other day I pulled the covers on the seats, maybe post the news too! :))
  4. Mountain shooter Rank
    Mountain shooter
    +3
    13 March 2017 07: 51
    No wonder. S-60 is, in fact, anti-tank ZIS-2 during WWII. The Tigers stopped. And KAMAZ all-wheel drive is also a car, even where. Here is the synergistic effect of their combination laughing
    1. Zaurbek Rank
      Zaurbek
      +1
      13 March 2017 08: 07
      They did not stop the tigers ...
      1. Orionvit Rank
        Orionvit
        +3
        13 March 2017 08: 22
        They stopped, and the T-4 used to be flashed to take off. It was after the Kursk Bulge that the production of 57mm anti-tank tanks was restored. guns whose production was previously suspended due to "excessive penetration".
        1. Zaurbek Rank
          Zaurbek
          +1
          13 March 2017 08: 26
          The tiger did not pierce either the PT-76mm or the PT-85mm in the forehead. The PT-85mm from the T-34-85 took the tiger aboard up to 600m. 100mm, 122mm and 152mm guns were dangerous for the Tiger from all sides. I agree with T-3 and T-4.
          1. Orionvit Rank
            Orionvit
            +1
            13 March 2017 08: 40
            Stop the tank, this does not mean that it must be pierced in the frontal projection. Although this is an indicator.
            1. Zaurbek Rank
              Zaurbek
              0
              13 March 2017 08: 45
              Then why talk about 57mm. PT gun to help you -14mm.
  5. Barakuda Rank
    Barakuda
    +1
    13 March 2017 07: 52
    For visual entertainment, the S-60 stood next to the boxes (Wasps, Buki, Torah ..). Twist-rejoice. They could not even imagine that after so many years they were still in service ...
  6. iliitchitch Rank
    iliitchitch
    +1
    13 March 2017 08: 02
    Accuracy is inaccuracy. And the rate of fire, yes in terms of square-nesting method? Normally, just fill in the solarium, and in tank schools you do not need to teach drugs, again.
  7. Zaurbek Rank
    Zaurbek
    +1
    13 March 2017 08: 08
    where haven’t you put a 57mm gun yet?
  8. Gray brother Rank
    Gray brother
    +4
    13 March 2017 08: 10
    This is a common practice there.
    1. Gray brother Rank
      Gray brother
      +3
      13 March 2017 08: 11
      [quote = Gray brother] It's a common practice there.
      1. Zaurbek Rank
        Zaurbek
        +1
        13 March 2017 08: 46
        This is not a 57mm anti-aircraft gun, some kind of ZIS-2.
        1. Gray brother Rank
          Gray brother
          0
          13 March 2017 16: 37
          Quote: Zaurbek
          This is not a 57mm anti-aircraft gun, some kind of ZIS-2.

          Unprincipled.
  9. Orionvit Rank
    Orionvit
    +1
    13 March 2017 09: 52
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    And so ..... "neither yours, nor ours ..." During the movement, the truck swings the cannon, and the cannon swings the truck during the fire ... in the end, a complete "naturlich"

    Let it be your way. But then the main question of philosophy remains. Do you need a truck in order to carry a gun, or do you need a gun to shoot from a truck. laughing
  10. nivander Rank
    nivander
    +1
    13 March 2017 10: 19
    I would also install jacks to hit from 1,5 km for a pretty penny (I'm not kidding, I saw it myself at the Khabarovsk proving ground)
  11. bald Rank
    bald
    +1
    13 March 2017 11: 03
    Goal for the invention of cunning (linear). Well done guys - the head works.
  12. Vladimir Postnikov Rank
    Vladimir Postnikov
    +1
    13 March 2017 12: 47
    With such equipment, Syria is turning into a bottomless barrel, where shells made in USSR disappear. It’s good if you ordered a new 57mm shell production line. I wonder how they resumed their production?
    If the shooting is done from automobile springs (without frames, ploughshares, supports, outriggers), then this is what is called a "bottomless barrel". It is understandable that the Syrians are having fun like this, they are taking advantage of the freebie. If Russia supplied them with long-since "expired" shells, then it is also not a pity. Problematic articles concerning the shell industry were published recently. Have the problems been overcome? I doubt it. Shells require a lot of money, and you can't lay them out on Red Square, i.e. you won't get any PR.
  13. commbatant Rank
    commbatant
    0
    13 March 2017 16: 33
    The S-60 is a Soviet anti-aircraft artillery system using the AZP-57 anti-aircraft guns of 57 mm caliber, developed in the mid-1940s and widely used in the world.

    http://technoreason.ucoz.ru/publ/oruzhie/pro_zrk_
    pvo / kompleks_s_60_i_ego_sovremennoe_razvitie_vide
    o / 86-1-0-4694
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  15. Zloydefeft Rank
    Zloydefeft
    0
    13 March 2017 18: 43
    Damn, I really thought the Ford Mustang set. Such a horror appeared in my head. :))
  16. cosmos132 Rank
    cosmos132
    0
    13 March 2017 20: 40
    Good gun And if you shoot BR at 50 rounds per minute ....
  17. 01-02-2000 Rank
    01-02-2000
    0
    14 March 2017 05: 35
    Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
    With such equipment, Syria is turning into a bottomless barrel, where shells made in USSR disappear. It’s good if you ordered a new 57mm shell production line. I wonder how they resumed their production?
    If the shooting comes from automobile springs (without beds, openers, supports, outriggers), then this is what is called the "bottomless barrel". The fact that the Syrians are so entertained is understandable, they use a freebie. If Russia delivered long-missed shells there, then it’s also not a pity. More recently, problematic articles were published regarding the shell industry. Are the problems overcome? I doubt it. The shells require big money, but you won’t put them on Red Square, i.e. You won’t make any PR.

    judging by your post and especially by a tearful note, do you pay for ammunition from your pocket?
    no? do not pay?
    and now about the entertainment you describe.
    The Syrian army is not on the boardwalk in Cannes, but on its land is fighting for its land.
    We are not having fun either.
    It’s good to smear snot along the sleeve, Vladimir.