Self-propelled artillery installation SU-76. Infographics

SU-76 is a Soviet self-propelled artillery mount (SAU) used in the Great Patriotic War. Self-propelled gun made on the basis of light tanks T-60, T-70 and was intended for the direct accompaniment of infantry, had bulletproof armor. Armament allowed to fight with light and medium tanks. The lightest and most massive type of self-propelled guns produced in the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.

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[wanderer_032]

Great thing. Even today, has not lost its relevance. Anything better than improvised self-propelled guns, based on army and commercial trucks. IMHO.

[your1970]

wanderer_032
Great thing. - Yeah, that's why at the front she was called a "bitch" and a "naked Ferdinand", purely out of love for an excellent self-propelled gun ....
It was an ersatz, a very urgent ersatz - when it was necessary to stop the Nazis somehow and somehow ....
But to put the gun ZIS-2 (57 mm PTO) on it did not guess or simply did not. Then this machine and the Tigers could be torn apart more easily. - they didn’t put 57 on it precisely because they tried to fight as far as possible from closed fire which 76 mm allowed to do - fools to ride in a matchbox to attack the Tigers, which the IS and SU-152 burned quite easily, there wasn’t. attacks went on her, in the extreme ...

[F.NN]

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fools ride in a matchbox to attack the Tigers

Tanks were rarely used in defense. Only in the movies does this often happen.

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In extreme need, attacks went on her, in extreme ...

Even "extreme need" often happened.

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a very urgent ersatz - when it was necessary to stop at least something and somehow the fascists ...

In 1943 (SU-76M) they already did not need to be stopped especially. But there was a free platform. True, there was no normal gun. It doesn’t matter, they set what it was. And then there was a story called "think for yourself how to use it." Because there is nothing else.

[your1970]

Quote: F.NN

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In extreme need, attacks went on her, in extreme ...
Even "extreme need" often happened.

great and powerful Russian language - “extreme need” here meant not the rarity of using the SU-76, and even more so the rarity of the SU-76 itself, but the absence of normal tanks here and now, the need for tanks — which made it necessary to send a structure not suitable for combat (SU-76 ) to battle very often.
This led to very large losses - and since the need for mobile and at least slightly protected artillery has not been canceled - to large volumes of output.

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In 1943 (SU-76M) they already didn’t need to be stopped especially

- And the Germans even had to be stopped in 1945, and with heavy losses ....
e.g. Balaton
"Behind one day On March 7, the 1964th, 1965th and 1966th IPTAPs defending in this section, which were part of the 43rd IPTABr, burned 21 and knocked out 23 tanks and 5 enemy armored personnel carriers, having lost 32 guns from his actions (17 of them ZIS-2), 3 tractors and 4 off-road trucks. After that, two regiments of the brigade (1966th and 1965th) were put out to staffing, and the 1964th IPTAP was put into battle near Sharsentagot. "- for 1 (!!!!!!!!!) day 2 regiment in almost zero ... March 1945, until surrender 2 months

[F.NN]

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and the Germans even had to be stopped in 1945, and with heavy losses ....

Wrong expressed, in 1943. special opportunity to stop the Germans from the three-inch was no longer. Further down the text.

[wanderer_032]

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The absence of normal tanks here and now, it is the need for tanks - which is what made the unattached building for combat (SU-76) go into battle very often.

And in the same Syria, today, instead of military special equipment which is SAU SU-76 (M), 57-mm cannons C-60 and ZIS-2, put on the chassis of conventional trucks. And use them instead of such ACS. Guntruck is Syrian everything. And today is the 21 century, by the way, the year of the 2017, and not the 20 century, and 40, however.

[your1970]

If you shout alluvbar, shoot videos, take selfies, and in the next century, gantraks will be needed at 23 too ... And if you conduct systemic military operations at least at the Germans level and in 1942 Rommel's level, there would have been no IGilovites in Syria for a long time , Kurds, Turks, coalitions ..... He would have gouged them a long time ago .....
How much was the Red Army armored vehicles in 1941? !! For a month and a half ....
Gantraki ..... matchboxes .......

[F.NN]

Quote: wanderer_032

Great thing.

SPG NSP without reservation and without PT capabilities.
Why was he great? To increase the accounts of German anti-tankers?

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Even today, has not lost its relevance.

There are no words. Three-inch has outlived its still to 2MV.

Quote: wanderer_032

Anything better than makeshift self-propelled guns, based on army and commercial trucks

Of course. And even better than slingshots, pitchforks, bows and spears.

[wanderer_032]

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Why was he great?

My wife's grandfather was a commander in such a machine. Member of the Berlin offensive. His SU-76M as part of one of the units of the 1729-th SAP, was given the 52-th Guards. div., 12 guards building block, 3 th arm to support their fire infantry in battles during the crossing of the river Oder.
During the period of those battles, in one of them, the crew under his command destroyed:

1. Battery of German AT guns in the amount of 3 units

2. Five machine gun calculations

3. With a dozen "Faustniki"

What ensured the unhindered advance of the infantry and the fulfillment of its combat mission. For which he was presented for a military award and subsequently awarded. This is how it is.

[F.NN]

Quote: wanderer_032

During the period of those battles, in one of them, the crew under his command destroyed:

1. Battery of German AT guns in the amount of 3 units

Here it is hard to believe. Although, if from closed positions or from an ambush ...

Quote: wanderer_032

2. Five machine gun calculations

3. With a dozen "Faustniki"

And this is quite real.

[wanderer_032]

Quote: F.NN

Here it is hard to believe. Although, if from closed positions or from an ambush ...

So it is written in his premium list. The text of the award sheet itself, written on a notebook sheet, in a cell. But it is certified by the signatures of commanders.

Literal quote:

Worthy of the Order of the Government "World War 2 degree".

The commander of 544 th sediment, gv.mayor Zheleznyakov.

Worthy of awarding the Order of the DOMESTIC WAR OF THE SECOND DEGREE.

Commander 23 GUARDS ARROW
DNOVO-BERLIN REDSIGNED
DIVISIONS OF THE GUARD OF GENERAL MAJOR: - SHAFARENKO

"28" August 1945 Signature

AWARD
Order of the Red Star

COMMANDER 12 GW CCM
HERO OF THE SOVIET UNION
GUARDS GENERAL LIEUTENANT
Grigorievsky
"28" August 1945 Signature

Order of 12 GV CCM No. 053 / H of "25" September 1945
awarded the order of the RED STAR

CHIEF OK STAFF 12 GV SCC
MAJOR / REDKIN / Signature
"7" September 1945 of the year

This order is still kept in the family as a relic.

[wanderer_032]

With all its flaws, this car had a number of advantages. She was light, maneuverable, quiet on the go and heavily armed enough to hit fortified firing points. These machines were actively used for fire support of infantry in offensive operations. And where they were used correctly, they showed their high efficiency.

By the way, in the post-war period, a similar self-propelled gun with an 57-mm cannon - an ASU-57 was created for the airborne forces.



In addition, the light tank PT-76 was created:



With the same actually 76-mm gun. And who served in the SA until the collapse of the USSR. And maybe even longer.

[F.NN]

The value of the PT-76 is not in the gun, but in the fact that all this economy can float.
The gun there is just about the same as on the SU-76. Junk, simply put.
Here is a good SPG NSP of those times. And the gun there, what you need:

[wanderer_032]

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The value of the PT-76 is not in the gun, but in the fact that all this economy can float.

No, not only that. 76-mm gun, powerful enough tool. It can very well hit the enemy's manpower in shelters and in open areas. As well as light armored and medium armored equipment of the enemy. And it is in our day. And from such a distance, which is available today only ATGN.
Any today's jihad-mobile babaev, for example, can break up miles at once for 2-3 - for a sweet soul. Provided that the crew of the "Float" (PT-76) will be sufficiently qualified of course.

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The gun there is just about the same as on the SU-76.

Exactly. Thats exactly what I mean.

[F.NN]

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76 mm cannon, quite a powerful gun. It can very well hit the enemy’s manpower in shelters and in open areas.

Maybe quite powerful. But not Soviet. Because they are made on the basis of a three-inch arr. 1900 The shell of which is HOPELESSLY out of date BEFORE 2MB.
I laid out above German StuG times 2 MV. So he has a 75 mm gun 33 heads better than the 76 mm gun with the PT-76.
So why not the MODERN 76.2-mm guns not be "powerful enough"?

[wanderer_032]

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So why not the MODERN 76.2-mm guns not be "powerful enough"?

How to know, how to know. The engineers have already reached the 57-mm C-60 and the output is AU-220 “Baikal”. It is possible and to 76,2 mm hands reach, if required. The potential of guns in such a caliber is not completely exhausted. Because the development of our art systems, several suffered in the post-war time from the bias of N.S. Khrushchev in favor of rocket technology. But in some situations, barrel artillery is much more efficient, easier and cheaper than rocket technology.

[F.NN]

Quote: wanderer_032

Because the development of our art systems has suffered a little in the post-war period from the biased attitude of N.S. Khrushchev

Many do not remember Khrushchev already. So, it was not in him.
The last time three-inches were noted in the time of 2 MV as a means of anti-theft protection (among the Germans, British and Americans, the USSR traditionally fought here not with good weapons, but with "legendary" ones). Partially and as good tank guns (the USSR at the beginning of the war and the Germans all the way). Since then, a lot of water has flowed and the means of VET have changed greatly. And tank guns too. And more, even in the times of WW2 they were no good. Apparently a dying caliber.

[wanderer_032]

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Junk, to put it simply.

And today there is a newer thing:



I especially like this one:

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Workhorse, the most massive self-propelled guns of the Red Army. But to put the gun ZIS-2 (57 mm PTO) on it did not guess or simply did not. Then this machine and the Tigers could be torn apart more easily.

[F.NN]

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But to put the gun ZIS-2 (57 mm PTO) on it did not guess or simply did not.

ZIS-2 arr. 1943 especially outstanding PT capabilities did not possess. And her main quality was secrecy. On the SU platform, she would have lost this dignity. And whether they could have performed their functions.

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Compare the armor penetration of the shells of the ZIS-3 and ZIS-2 guns, everything is clearly shown there.

[F.NN]

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Compare the armor penetration of the shells of the ZIS-3 and ZIS-2 guns, everything is clearly shown there.

What for? If the ZIS-2 in 1943. it was not very good, then at ZIS-3 at the same time it was practically absent.

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Well then, everything is clear with you. The question is closed.