The training of specialists on work with A-C-500 began

According to information RIA News, Major-General Vladimir Lyaporov, head of the Zhukov Military Aerospace Defense Academy, said that the university he leads prepares specialists to work with the latest anti-aircraft missile systems C-500:

We prepare listeners for 11 military specialties, including officers-specialists for the operation of promising air defense missile defense systems C-500.

At present, future rocket scientists are studying general disciplines, after which they will begin to master a specific specialization. In addition to them, future military unit commanders for the rocket and space defense system, specialists for national and regional defense control centers, research officers, and specialists in the development and testing of air defense equipment are trained at the academy.

As Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said earlier, the first prototype of the C-500 will be ready for the 2020 year.
C-500 is a representative of a new generation of ground-to-air anti-aircraft missile systems. It is designed for long-range and high-altitude interception, has an increased potential for missile defense and is capable of intercepting ballistic missiles, hitting planes, helicopters and cruise missiles.

The radius of impact of the C-500 is 600 kilometers. The system is capable of simultaneously firing at 10 ballistic supersonic targets with speeds up to 7 kilometers per second, and also has the ability to defeat the warheads of hypersonic rockets. In terms of its performance, the C-500 will significantly exceed the C-400 and its US rival Patriot Advanced Capability-3, which is in service with the air defense system.

Comments

[Stranger03]

Two years before the release of the first S-500 air defense system, they began to prepare specialists !! Very commendable, Shoigu clever. Keep it up.

[Teberii]

It is commendable that you need to train specialists in advance, the main thing is that the remaining plans be realized.

[MPK105]

Well, straight Shoigu is one-savior in the second coming ... I’m sure, and without him there are enough sensible men in the troops.

[alexng]

What do you dislike about Shoigu? By bringing order to the Moscow Region? Or the fact that the command and control center of the Army and Navy has created the best in the world today? (the control center of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, created by him) was taken as a basis. At his insistent "request", robotics is introduced into the troops and much more ... Continue to list? Or enough, although this is already enough. And about the sane men, of course, there are a lot of them, but they all already work as taxi drivers, locksmiths, security guards, etc., but there are few ideologists and organizers. More blah blah blah sitting on the couch.

[MPK105]

Straight ONE and MAKED THE ORDER ... ??? Blablabla is not necessary, dear.

[alexng]

Actually, the team ...

[SRC P-15]

Quote: alexneg

Actually, the team ...

Serdyukov also had a “team”, only it was imprisoned for something else: to prepare the ground for army reform. Shoigu came to the ready. If he had to rake those “Augean stables” that Serdyukov got, then the question is: would the current Minister of Defense be so popular.

[alexng]

Maybe enough pipy are measured? Maybe it can't be ... We have what we have. To date, the Russian army is the most efficient in the world and even the West will recognize this, and this is the main thing. By the way, I did not deny the contribution of clearing the army of ballast by Serdyukov. And who told you that these were different teams? Everything was cooked and cooked in one boiler and nominated to the post of head of the Defense Ministry Shoigu collectively by the team itself. Check out my post about this a little earlier.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: alexneg

Maybe enough pipy are measured?

Here it is not a matter of “peeps”, but of postscripts! I do not like that all laurels go to Shoigu, while the dirtiest work for him was done by another. I personally have nothing against Shoigu and respect him for his allegiance to our Army. He also did quite a lot for her, but it is impossible to do this: to praise one, while humiliating the other.

[levfuks]

Strange, before your comment I was sure that Serdyukov was engaged in the reform of the army. And not just me.
It would be interesting to know Shoigu's opinion on the prepared soil.

[Unclean]

Quote: MPK105

Straight ONE and MAKED THE ORDER ... ??? Blablabla is not necessary, dear.

Not one, Serdyukov and Vasilyeva actively helped him.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: MPK105

. Sure, and without him there are enough sensible men in the troops.

Now it’s enough when he (Shoigu) returned these men to the army and pulled him up, gave him the opportunity to make decisions, began to listen to them and applied their knowledge and experience as intended, and therefore he is now not the only one in the army. And you, if you really do not like Shoigu very much, shoot yourself and do not spray saliva here.

[MPK105]

Do not wait, shoot yourself ... The air will be cleaner.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: MPK105

Do not wait, shoot yourself ... The air will be cleaner.

Yes, people like you do not shoot or drown.

[Tusv]

Quote: Teberii

It is commendable that you need to train specialists in advance, the main thing is that the remaining plans be realized.

Absolutely absolutely. This will fly in, the last thought from the driver of an enemy pepelats.
But most importantly, while the super duper penguin was being developed, we have 2 generations of air defense. We are carefully waiting for a visit

[Bourbon]

Quote: Teberii

It is commendable that you need to train specialists in advance, the main thing is that the remaining plans be realized.

that's for sure, because there’s still no long-range missile on the c400, but here is the c500 with new missiles)

[Tusv]

that's for sure, because even with the 400 long-range missile

Do you want to say 40N6E avno?

[Genry]

Quote: Burbon

after all, there is no long-range missile on the c400, but here is the c500 with new missiles

There is a long-range missile. Just for today, there are no tasks for her. Do you want to bring down something over foreign territory? Or, as in the case of the Ukrainian Boeing, be pulled into a provocation? It's good that there was nothing close.

[Bourbon]

Quote: Genry

Long-range missile is

and voice?

[Genry]

Quote: Burbon

Quote: Genry
Long-range missile is

and voice?

48N6DM

[Genry]

Add (could not remember exactly) 9M82MV

[Bourbon]

range? really tested! it is important? you know I think only from Wikipedia

[Bongo]

C-500 is a representative of a new generation of ground-to-air anti-aircraft missile systems. It is designed for long-range and high-altitude interception, has an increased potential for missile defense and is capable of intercepting ballistic missiles, hitting planes, helicopters and cruise missiles.

Especially touches are “helicopters and cruise missiles”, but they forgot about drones ... And this despite the fact that the cost of missiles will be comparable to the price of a combat aircraft. Guys, what kind of helicopters, for this there are simpler and cheaper complexes. S-500 air defense missile systems - the basis of a regional missile defense system and a means of combating satellites in low orbits and using expensive few missiles against helicopters - is the same as hammering nails with a microscope.

[Bourbon]

a quote in which I figure as the author didn’t belong to me, doesn’t belong and will not .... when quoting, select more carefully

[Bongo]

Quote: Burbon

a quote in which I figure as the author didn’t belong to me, doesn’t belong and will not .... when quoting, select more carefully

I'm sorry, I don’t know how it happened Already fixed

[Bourbon]

Quote: Bongo

I don’t know how it happened Already fixed

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Stranger03

Two years before the release of the first S-500 air defense system, they began to prepare specialists !! Very commendable, Shoigu clever. Keep it up.

Good sign! So, all work on the S-500 is in accordance with the regulations.

[cost]

alexneg: What do you dislike about Shoigu? By bringing order to the Moscow Region? Or the fact that the command center of the Army and Navy has created the best in the world today? "

For the operational management of the army and navy, a central (integrated) command post of the Armed Forces was established on the basis of the General Staff Central Command. It includes the Central Command of the Navy, the Central Command of the Air Force, the Central Command of the Aerospace Defense Forces, which are removed from the respective commanders-in-chief. "The Central Command of the Strategic Missile Forces remained an independent structure. It is directly subordinate to the Chief of the General Staff
The Minister of Defense, as it were, is roughly the head of the rear of the Russian armed forces in peacetime

The main tasks of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation are:
development and implementation of measures in preparation to the armed defense of the Russian Federation, the integrity and inviolability of its territory;

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Good sign! So, all work on the S-500 is in accordance with the regulations.

Pasha, welcome!
Work on the S-500 is going according to plan and so far without any changes, but what is happening with the S-350 (Vityaz)? And we need the Knight no less than Prometheus, because he will go to replace the S-300 and Buk, which we have, by the way, a lot. On the project of the short-range Morpheus air defense system, everything is also deaf, although this air defense system should work in tandem with Vityaz.
And there is still such a statement-

Mid-range anti-aircraft missile system / SAM of the operational (army) air defense unit of the ground forces. The development of the complex is carried out by the Scientific and Research Institute of Instrument Engineering named after V.V. Tikhomirov. The development of the air defense system began in 2016 on an initiative basis at the NIIP's own funds without the technical task of the Russian Ministry of Defense as part of work on the Buk type air defense system. This decision was approved by the board of the military-industrial complex under the Government of Russia. Completion of the air defense system is expected in 2023-2026.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Andrew !

Quote: NEXUS

Work on the S-500 is going according to plan and so far without any changes, but what is happening with the S-350 (Vityaz)? And we need the Knight no less than Prometheus, because he will go to replace the S-300 and Buk, which we have, by the way, a lot. On the project of the short-range Morpheus air defense system, everything is also deaf, although this air defense system should work in tandem with Vityaz.
And there is still such a statement-

Mid-range anti-aircraft missile system / SAM of the operational (army) air defense unit of the ground forces. The development of the complex is carried out by the Scientific and Research Institute of Instrument Engineering named after V.V. Tikhomirov. The development of the air defense system began in 2016 on an initiative basis at the NIIP's own funds without the technical task of the Russian Ministry of Defense as part of work on the Buk type air defense system. This decision was approved by the board of the military-industrial complex under the Government of Russia. Completion of the air defense system is expected in 2023-2026.

Both Vityaz and Morpheus are certainly needed, but having practically no information on these complexes it is difficult to judge the progress of development ...
As for the air defense system of the operational (army) air defense unit of the ground forces, there is also enough fog. We know what they are developing and nothing more ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Both Vityaz and Morpheus are certainly needed, but having practically no information on these complexes it is difficult to judge the progress of development ...

There is really little information on Morpheus ... there is a rumor that this project was even covered up. But according to Vityaz-

Test. It was planned to start proving ground tests of the prototype SAM in 2011, but according to the end of 2010, the production of the prototype is planned for 2012 and completion of its tests is planned for 2013. The deployment of air defense systems is scheduled to begin in 2015 (plans for 2010). In mid-2013, it was reported that the complex would be field tested in 2014 (source - Latest ...). Although earlier, in June 2013, it was reported that SAM tests should begin in the fall of 2013 (source).

In January 2012, the media reported that by 2020 more than 30 Vityaz air defense systems will be armed with Russian air defense forces, with which it is planned to replace the S-300P / PS air defense systems. Presumably in the Vityaz air defense system two types of missiles can be used - short-range (presumably 9M100) and medium-range (presumably 9M96). According to the statement of the Air Force Commander-in-Chief, Colonel-General Alexander Zelin, it is assumed that the Vityaz air defense missile system will several times exceed the capabilities of the S-300P air defense system. In February 2012, the media announced that it was planned to adopt 38 divisional air defense systems.

On September 11.09.2013, 350, the head of the Almaz-Antey GSKB Vitaliy Neskrodov told the media that for the S-2014 air defense system in XNUMX It is planned to complete the tests, to start mass production in 2015 and in 2016. start deliveries of air defense systems in terms of air defense. The Vityaz air defense system should replace the famous S-300PS and S-300PM (PMU) in the Russian army.

The question is, where in the Vityaz series?

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NEXUS

There is really little information on Morpheus ... there is a rumor that this project was even covered up. The question is, where in the Vityaz series?

I meant that lately there has been silence on Vityaz, and on Morpheus even nothing has been heard longer. I really hope that this is the calm before the storm ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I really hope that this is the calm before the storm ...

For more than a year now I have been tracking the situation with Vityaz and Morpheus ... either our developers let the fog go intentionally, or big problems appeared in the projects (especially Morpheus). At first, when the S-350 was first presented, the conversation was that very soon this complex would be put into service. But after that some strange "dances with a tambourine" began ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: NEXUS

For more than a year now I have been tracking the situation with Vityaz and Morpheus ... either our developers let the fog go intentionally, or big problems appeared in the projects (especially Morpheus). At first, when the S-350 was first presented, the conversation was that very soon this complex would be put into service. But after that some strange "dances with a tambourine" began ...

It remains only to wait for at least something to clear up the developers. In the meantime, make assumptions ...

[Bourbon]

Quote: NEXUS

either our developers let the fog intentionally, or big problems appeared in the projects (especially Morpheus).

I apologize, but there are big problems and they are caused by the lack of qualified specialists, I remind you for reference the s-400 does not have its long-range missile .... only from the s-300 ... the problem is that one specialist is old and there are no new ones in Al-Antey

[venik]

Quote: NEXUS

For more than a year now I have been tracking the situation with Vityaz and Morpheus ... either our developers let the fog go intentionally, or big problems appeared in the projects (especially Morpheus). At first, when the S-350 was first presented, the conversation was that very soon this complex would be put into service. But after that some strange "dances with a tambourine" began ...

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Last summer, when a chuckler rose around Poliment-Redut and the director of Almaz-Antey removed one of the army ranks (I don’t remember who it was), he mentioned that with similar DRY complexes (I obviously meant Vityaz) , there were problems during the tests !!!
Personally, I think that this is very likely connected with the elemental base or components that were previously supplied from abroad ..... In favor of this, the fact that when the “Diamond” developed the air defense system for South Korea and received access "to ANY element base", the complex was developed in record time and turned out to be SUCCESSFUL !! But maybe I'm wrong, of course ....

[siberalt]

And which systems will cover the s-500?

[Lord of the Sith]

I think we will see the S-500 by the end of 2018.

[siberalt]

As soon as you see, discard the photo on the forum!

[Observer2014]

Stranger03

Two years before the release of the first S-500 air defense system, they began to prepare specialists !! Very commendable, Shoigu clever. Keep it up.

He does it right. Moreover, the S-500 is practically in service with the same S-400. Naturally, with its own nuances. So let the teams and train.

[Thunderbolt]

In terms of its performance, the S-500 will significantly exceed the S-400 air defense system and its American competitor Patriot Advanced Capability-3, which is in service.

Still, they would compare it with the Carapace --- different weight categories, compare it with THAAD.

[voyaka uh]

You are right, the equivalent of the S-400 is THAAD, not Patriot

[mr.redpartizan]

THAAD is not designed to destroy aerodynamic targets, it is designed to intercept BB in near space.

[krops777]

In terms of its performance, the S-500 will significantly exceed the S-400 air defense system and its American competitor Patriot Advanced Capability-3, which is in service.

As far as I understand, the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 is not a competitor to the S-400 at all

[Observer2014]

krops777

As far as I understand, the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 is not a competitor to the S-400 at all

With "Buk" you need to compare.

[mr.redpartizan]

The Buk is the air defense system of the SV, and the S-400 and Patriot are the air defense of the air force.

[Hubun]

Americans will scream that aliens will be instructors in these systems. They connect our new technologies only with the help of an alien mind.

[Zaurbek]

Specialists in such systems are trained for about a year ... then we are waiting for the S-500 in a year ...

[gloomy fox]

it’s great to teach it all if something happens to work together. Well, of course, what kind of specialists are prepared earlier. I hope this technique will be put into operation as quickly as possible. And then I look pidos began to threaten with their own scales near the borders.

[Old26]

Quote: Zaurbek

Specialists in such systems are trained for about a year ... then we are waiting for the S-500 in a year ...

It is clear that you want, but you have to be realistic. About six months ago, there was information that you had begun testing individual parts of this system, and you already put it into service in 2018. Due to the fact that specialists are trained for about a year, it is not a fact that the system will appear as soon.
So far, there is not even 100% confidence that the S-400 has 40N6 long-range missiles, and the S-500 seems to have anti-missiles in the complex. And the information about them, in addition to the index, is generally zero. Therefore, it will be good if the words of the Deputy Minister of Defense come true (he’s that storyteller) and the first copy of the complex goes to the troops in 2020

[Dart2027]

Quote: Old26

Due to the fact that specialists are trained for about a year, it is not a fact that the system will appear as soon.

In fact, they begin to train specialists when the product is almost ready and it remains to "sew on the last buttons." Otherwise, there is simply no point.

[Zaurbek]

Moreover, there are long-range missiles and a complex. You need specialists in working with equipment, operators ....

[_Ugene_]

I trudge on such news. Preparations have begun for the training of specialists in working with S-500 air defense systems. When ready, brag.

[Old26]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Old26

Due to the fact that specialists are trained for about a year, it is not a fact that the system will appear as soon.

In fact, they begin to train specialists when the product is almost ready and it remains to "sew on the last buttons." Otherwise, there is simply no point.

Everything is possible in our country. For several years, they have been training specialists in the operation of the Rubezh RK, but the complex itself is not yet in service.
This, alas, is not a criterion when our time shifts regularly go to the right. How many Yasenu specialists have already prepared, but so far the boats themselves have only one ...

[Paste 84]

Shoigu for president! By the way, the idea is sound.

[Dashout]

Not! With all due respect to Shoigu - he is in his place! It is necessary to raise the domestic economy! Fight the liberals! And for this, Rogozin is a good candidate! How abruptly he put things in order in the military-industrial complex. The proposal is to replace Medvedev with Rogozin, and he will pull the team to himself!

[mr.redpartizan]

I hope that Platform-500 will be used as a wheeled tractor on the S-0.

[Wiruz]

The radius of destruction of the S-500 is 600 kilometers.

But nothing that the S-500 was promised to be adopted in 2016, and what was said about the radius of destruction of 3500 km ?! AND?

[ism_ek]

The C-500 is like going nowhere. The mass of the rocket with TPK is 6 tons. An American counterpart with similar characteristics weighs 1,5 tons.

[Wiruz]

There is a slightly different essence, if I understand correctly.
The American "SM-3" is essentially a launch vehicle. Its task is to put the interceptor into orbit. I can’t definitely name the mass of the latter, but I will say that it is small. Up to a hundred kilograms like.
Our 77H6 family missiles are relatively short-range missiles. In the sense that they do not carry any interceptors, but they themselves perform such a function. At breakneck speed they rush to the approaching warheads and hit them.
I will not venture to answer for the reliability of the foregoing ... I generally think that the 77N6 is created under the A-235 Nudol, including its mobile version. And the S-500 will fire easier missiles - 40N6, etc.

[Dashout]

I am happy for our country!

[Old26]

Quote: mr.redpartizan

I hope that Platform-500 will be used as a wheeled tractor on the S-0.

Do not expect. Judging by some open data, Platform-O ordered a long life.