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US plans to place F-35 in the Middle East

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According to information RIA News, the head of the military aviation command Herbert Karlisl announced the intention of the US Air Force to deploy fighters in the Middle East in a few years F-35designed to fight ISIS (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation). Limited deliveries of this type of aircraft to Europe and the Asia-Pacific region can be carried out as early as this spring.



At the same time, Russian and Syrian anti-aircraft missile systems, which are designed to protect important facilities in the Arab Republic, are of some concern to the US military command:

If you look at parts of Syria, inside this zone there is a rather dense anti-air threat. We try to resolve controversial issues. We try to make sure that they know that, of course, they should not highlight our planes, but these systems operate in that environment. They do not illuminate our aircraft with any type of radar sighting targets in large numbers or to a large extent ... But these radars are active.

- explained G. Carslil.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 26 February 2017 06: 37
    +3
    Wow, how much the US has measured ISIS’s life, and why, after a few years and not now, or according to an old habit, we engage in battle only when it’s almost completed, but we’ll attribute all the glory from the victory to ourselves.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 26 February 2017 08: 12
      +3
      After few years. Although anything is possible. In the days of the USSR, the Basmachi in Central Asia in the mid-30s finished off. Not fast this thing, unfortunately.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 26 February 2017 09: 22
        +3
        At the same time, Russian and Syrian anti-aircraft missile systems designed to protect important objects in the territory of the Arab Republic cause some concern among the US military command.

        What is it - mattresses are laid in advance in the straw? If any Fu-35 is hoarded up, they immediately squealed: “And we expressed concern!” wassat
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 February 2017 11: 40
          +5
          Paul, hi !
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          What is it - mattresses are laid in advance in the straw?

          Yes, let them lay ... Efti F-35, if they do not constantly "modernize" themselves fall .... But cho remains - WE will break on the ground .....
          In a mattress sweet erotic dream-to take Russia into the ring and that we ourselves would be scared and give up .... Only the 90s in the foreseeable future is not expected !!!! Break off, gentlemen staffers! If we broke your full contact with your hands, then the FIRST SAME, even non-nuclear, retaliatory strike will VERY surprise and disappoint you in your strength .....
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 26 February 2017 14: 27
            +3
            Alex, my respect! hi Always glad to read your opinion good But it’s not necessary to break through the earth - mattress zones of defeat will fly around the drisci. Since cowardice trickster prevails ... Syria called us, and our VKS will not go anywhere. And Syria is our long-standing ally, therefore we defend the Syrian land as ours. Therefore - do not walk on our land with mattress feet, do not trample these tombs with the graves of our ancestors, Russia will stand a century and will stand - on this I stand and will stand !!!
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 February 2017 08: 22
      +10
      ISIS does not have such a powerful air defense system that for its breakthrough, aircraft such as the F-35 were needed.

      These planes are not for terror, they are for Iran. Incidentally, one of the main "hydrocarbon barrels" of China.
      1. MPK105
        MPK105 26 February 2017 09: 06
        +5
        But I didn’t think about it ... By the way, ............. yes. Because people like to read smart opinions here ...
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 February 2017 10: 25
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        These planes are not for terror, they are for Iran. Incidentally, one of the main "hydrocarbon barrels" of China.

        That's right, which is why I won’t be surprised if we will soon deliver S-400 systems to Iran ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 February 2017 10: 52
          +6
          Are you sure Iran needs this?
          On the one hand, Russia exposed itself to Iran as an absolutely unreliable partner; they “threw” it twice.
          China, on the other hand, is protecting its investment. According to open sources only, the Celestial Empire holds 55.8% of the arms imports of Iran. And how much in real life, with their "gray" schemes bypassing sanctions ...
          For example, most of the Iranian “copy-paste” was created by joint Iranian-Chinese offices, in which specialists trained again in China worked from Iran.

          On the other hand, even a couple of dozens of such complexes do not solve anything. The air defense system decides. Iran has a weak aviation component, and they are beginning to work towards eliminating this vulnerability.
          For example, bringing to mind with the participation of China the available F-14 Tomcat, which American specialists are still crying for. Or "buying" in exchange for a 20-year lease of a large oil field "Azadegan" Chinese J-10 (they are also "Jian-10" or "Chengdu-10")
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 26 February 2017 10: 58
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            Are you sure Iran needs this?

            I will ask you the answer-And against whom the mattresses created ISIS?
            Quote: Spade
            On the one hand, Russia exposed itself to Iran as an absolutely unreliable partner; they “threw” it twice.

            Yes, we froze the supply of S-300 ... there was a thing. But the situation in the Middle East is changing daily and our interests and the mattresses in this region are very opposite. And in this situation, Iran is one of the main controversial points of our powers. And you correctly noted that China will not remain aloof.
            Quote: Spade
            On the other hand, even a couple of dozens of such complexes do not solve anything. The air defense system decides.

            But you have to start somewhere. Or do you think that the example of Iraq did not teach the Iranians anything?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 26 February 2017 11: 27
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              Yes, we froze the supply of S-300 ... there was a thing.

              For the first time, Russia threw them under Yeltsin, in 1995. "The Mountain-Chernomyrdin Protocol." Which for us resulted in 4 with pennies of a billion dollars of only direct losses. For comparison, the whole gum. US assistance to Russia in the 90s amounted to 2.7 billion dollars.
              A kid under Medvedev with the S-300 against this background is just a toy ...

              Quote: NEXUS
              And in this situation, Iran is one of the main contentious issues of our powers.

              Rather, we are doing all the dirty foreign policy work for defending Iran for China. Allowing the Celestial Empire to maintain good relations with the Sunni monarchies of the Middle East, who consider Iran their potential adversary.

              Quote: NEXUS
              I will ask you the answer-And against whom the mattresses created ISIS?

              They did not create it. They just played with controlled chaos, which turned into the category of uncontrollable.
              1. Pirogov
                Pirogov 26 February 2017 11: 45
                0
                Quote: Spade
                Rather, we are doing all the dirty foreign policy work for defending Iran for China. Allowing the Celestial Empire to maintain good relations with the Sunni monarchies of the Middle East, who consider Iran their potential adversary.

                In this, one needs to learn from China, rather than everyday meetings, to hold Lavrov and the company, which, in addition, give nothing. We play, so to speak, into the hands of the West in everything. It's my opinion.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 26 February 2017 11: 55
                  0
                  Sometimes ambition plays a trick on us ....
                  On the other hand, without them it is also impossible. Otherwise, everything, a swamp ...
      3. Pirogov
        Pirogov 26 February 2017 11: 35
        0
        Quote: Spade
        These planes are not for terror, they are for Iran. Incidentally, one of the main "hydrocarbon barrels" of China.

        One hundred%, this is from that opera as missile defense in Poland and Romania against Iran!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 February 2017 11: 44
          0
          Trump's support for Israel is also from this opera. I would never have believed that this tough businessman suddenly burned with altruistic love for a Jewish enclave in the Middle East.

          The near target is Iran, the distant is China.
      4. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 February 2017 11: 46
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        ISIS does not have such a powerful air defense systemso that for its breakthrough, aircraft such as the F-35 were needed.
        These planes are not for terror, they are for Iran. Incidentally, one of the main "hydrocarbon barrels" of China.

        ISIS does not .... We have in Syria. Do you seriously think that the A-35 is needed to fight ISIS? ISIS has planes that fly where they want and bomb who they need? FOR US Oil F-35 .... So that we are afraid ... Yes, that's just the Pentagon did not take into account the mentality of our pilots ..... Raskhrenachat as L-29 .....
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 February 2017 11: 57
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          We have in Syria.

          So what? Lately, Americans are not particularly interested in military confrontation with Russia in the Syrian sandbox.
    3. behemot
      behemot 26 February 2017 09: 37
      +1
      classics of the genre. Who but the Americans defeated Hitler?
      1. cost
        cost 26 February 2017 11: 22
        +2
        US plans to host to fight ISIS F-35 Middle East

        The next step in the fight against ISIS will probably be to deploy the LGM-118A Peacekeeper - MX MX in the Middle East.
        To fight ISIS they want to place invisibles! Chuckle. Yes against Iran and our Khmeimim air base
      2. bamsik
        bamsik 26 February 2017 19: 40
        0
        Well hello ... I heard that the main battle of WW2 was the battle of Midway. and Hitler is so ... along the way
  2. bald
    bald 26 February 2017 06: 45
    +1
    Pancake !!! - we are stupefied !!! You ask our people there, for, I’m worried, ask Russia for your “friend or foe” airplane pendant - it will help a little.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 26 February 2017 07: 28
      +3
      It’s strange: here we are going to drive the invisible, so you, please, don’t shine it with radar, suddenly, notice. Or hint that the anti-radar missile will be launched before entering the detection zone?
      Fraud gives.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 26 February 2017 08: 55
        +1
        Quote: samoletil18
        Or hint that the anti-radar missile will be launched before entering the detection zone?

        The most difficult thing in air defense is to stand guard against your own. Their Harm is certainly a powerful thing, but against ours, a kitten
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 February 2017 06: 48
    +1
    Amers urgently need to prove that their “flying penguin” is the best aircraft of all time, otherwise there will be a financial failure. wassat
    1. MPK105
      MPK105 26 February 2017 07: 18
      +7
      But is it really so bad, is it? It seems good, it’s damp, maybe it’s a disease of all the new technology, it will be brought to mind during operation ... Pilots, experts-chew
      1. MPK105
        MPK105 26 February 2017 07: 39
        +7
        Yes, and, not the topic-but still-Forgive me, Orthodox people, if you are to blame for what is before you.
        1. Mystery12345
          Mystery12345 26 February 2017 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: MPK105
          Yes, and, not the topic-but still-Forgive me, Orthodox people, if you are to blame for what is before you.

          read "our father" three times - and it will be with you ...
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 26 February 2017 08: 28
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      otherwise there will be a financial failure.

      Will not be. The Americans did this doggie for someone else's money. Stealth for the poor. We have been aware of the concept since 1989. Outside 2017
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 February 2017 07: 20
    +1
    It would be foolish to create an airplane and keep it in the stable. They lie that in a few years they will be stationed on BV. A large unit is possible, but it will be used much earlier.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 26 February 2017 10: 57
      +2
      The F-35 is replacing the F-16.
      Form an F-35 squadron - they land an F-16 squadron.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 26 February 2017 11: 15
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Form an F-35 squadron - they land an F-16 squadron.

        No respect for the paramilitary organization sad - planting is our privilege negative
        And so. Development f -35 27 years minimum. We have done one and a half generations of air defense, more precisely, they are already teaching on the S-500 database. and Iran already has a means of destruction. And most importantly, at your expense. The super duper pepelats was already waiting for
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 26 February 2017 11: 17
          +2
          All is ready? Then there is nothing to worry about! You can relax and have a drink ... drinks
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 26 February 2017 11: 38
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            All is ready? Then there is nothing to worry

            While Vityaz and Prometheus will not worry about the DB, Suddenly the Americans will put the third penguin on the wing
  5. asbond
    asbond 26 February 2017 07: 21
    +1
    Well, of course! If the country can shoot anti-aircraft guns - the US is concerned. With this option, “democracy on the wings” is difficult to carry.
  6. jovanni
    jovanni 26 February 2017 07: 24
    +1
    Yes, a lot of plans are expanding! They found a new excuse for the crazy grandmas spent on this plane. Well, what if the Russians see him, even the barmalei, may not notice ...
  7. askort154
    askort154 26 February 2017 07: 46
    +1
    ..... A few years later, deploy F-35 fighters in the Middle East .....


    Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and the CA are not reliable. Only Israel remains. This idea of ​​theirs, of course, is not against ISIS, but against our base in Tartus.
  8. Wildfox
    Wildfox 26 February 2017 08: 16
    +2
    I think ISIS and in 10 years it will spoil the blood of people, remember Al Qaeda how many times it has been renamed, and is still alive. Moreover, the Middle East is not only Syria. Of course, they can find work, only it is unlikely that such a toy is against the barmaley, the reaction to the base in Khmeimim is unambiguous. hi
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 February 2017 08: 18
    +2
    Well, what, all the jambs in the planes fixed?
    And in vain the guys are afraid that we highlight them.
    May they better fear that they will not be able to detect our highlight.
    Well, of course, it is clear that America seeks to creep into Syria and gain a foothold there.
    1. Wiskar
      Wiskar 26 February 2017 13: 57
      +2
      Israel got a great opportunity to explore the capabilities of the C400 in Syria. Therefore, Russia is conducting its observations, while Israel, like the United States, is exploring the C400’s detection capabilities and the real capabilities of the system, rather than greenhouses without the use of stealth technologies and electronic warfare.
  10. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 February 2017 09: 13
    +2
    That is, these unfinished aggressors are still trying to point to the legitimate government of Syria and our air forces and air defense? Or maybe start demonstratively accompanying them? Especially any new radars to bring and take these "eagles" to escort every time their smelly paw flashes in the sky of Syria?
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 February 2017 09: 14
    +3
    And the run-in in a battle environment is impatient and afraid. And how are the Israelis feeling in the cabin ?. And then there were so many fakes - "we are flying quietly, but the Russians do not even see us closely"?
    1. Taran 75
      Taran 75 26 February 2017 10: 04
      +1
      soon the "God-fearing" article will be seen and again they will begin to balabolit that all Russian weapons are rusty trash, and their F-35s are powerful and not vulnerable
    2. Wiskar
      Wiskar 26 February 2017 14: 10
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And then there were so many fakes - "we are flying quietly, but the Russians do not even see us closely"?


      These fakes are usually distributed just not in Israel, but in Russia, so that you can write as you write lol


      . And the run-in in a battle environment is impatient and afraid.


      While there are enough conventional planes - Israel calmly strikes at terrorists and those who help them in Syria and Lebanon. Whether they see them in Russia or not is not important, the main thing is that Israel has an agreement with Russia - Russia does not crawl when Israel cares about its security, and Israel continues to maintain neutrality in the war.

      But as it will be possible to run around the F35, all the more so much time in Israel have been studying the work of the C400. Not every time such an opportunity is issued, especially since Russia does not interfere.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 February 2017 09: 28
    0
    And where did the professors go again?
  13. akims
    akims 26 February 2017 10: 10
    0
    If you look at parts of Syria, inside this zone there is a rather dense anti-air threat. We try to resolve controversial issues. We try to make sure that they know that, of course, they should not highlight our planes, but these systems operate in that environment. They do not illuminate our aircraft with any type of radar sighting targets in large numbers or to a large extent ... But these radars are active.

    Did he understand what he said?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 26 February 2017 11: 05
      +3
      Perhaps the translation is not very. But the point is that Russian and Syrian
      Air defense monitors the space with locators, but does not go into escort mode
      goals "(as if before an attack with missiles). This mode is immediately whipped on planes and take action.
      There are systems that in wartime instantly (automatically) launch an air-to-ground missile
      to the air defense locator, if it is in the "target tracking" mode. Here is the general and worries that
      a similar incident could happen by mistake.
      1. Parsec
        Parsec 26 February 2017 11: 11
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "escort
        goals "(as if before an attack with missiles). This mode is immediately whipped on planes and take action.
        There are systems that in wartime instantly (automatically) launch an air-to-ground missile
        to the air defense locator, if it is in the "target tracking" mode.

        A system with instant automatic launch of the PRR is an air defense dream. The entire group can be identified and disarmed in minutes.
        Snowstorm sweep, as usual.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 27 February 2017 11: 26
          0
          TOR M1 airborne systems can pinpoint and hit targets ... this is very important when attacking with adjustable ammunition. The reaction time is minimal and a person may not be in time.
  14. Old sergeant
    Old sergeant 26 February 2017 11: 39
    +2
    We try to make sure that they know that, of course, they should not highlight our planes


    - Who was standing on whom? - shouted Philipp Philippovich, - work hard
    state your thoughts more clearly.
  15. dubowitskij.vick
    dubowitskij.vick 26 February 2017 13: 22
    +1
    "According to RIA Novosti, the head of the combat aviation command Herbert Karlisl announced the intention of the US Air Force to deploy F-35 fighters in the Middle East to fight ISIS (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation)."

    What Americans are going to chew snot with ISIS for several years?
    Are they bred as experimental rabbits only to test their subracles on them?
  16. dubowitskij.vick
    dubowitskij.vick 26 February 2017 13: 26
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The F-35 is replacing the F-16.
    Form an F-35 squadron - they land an F-16 squadron.

    What the hell form? They put the production of F18 on until they figure it out with this trash.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 26 February 2017 13: 39
      +2
      You report your concerns to the U.S. Air Force Command,
      perhaps they will no longer complete the F-35A squadrons.

      (F18 is naval aviation, there is F-35C)
  17. dubowitskij.vick
    dubowitskij.vick 26 February 2017 22: 38
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    You report your concerns to the U.S. Air Force Command,
    perhaps they will no longer complete the F-35A squadrons.
    (F18 is naval aviation, there is F-35C)

    Yes of course. On kraynyak, piece of iron, sitting on the deck, and can sit on the ground. If so, it will become rotten, teach.

    And the shtatovskie warriors have long bothered, they, after all, infa does not linger, as for me. I even reached the President. And as soon as he coughed in the direction of the scammers, the shares of the manufacturer fell decently. And the price too. But after the real audit, what will happen?