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What is more dangerous: with Russia or against Russia?

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Former Russian joy at the election of Mr. Trump to the presidency in the USA has come to naught. Disappointment settled among the propagandists. The propagandists themselves are to blame for this: the image of the “superman Trump” invented by them, who would crush NATO with one foot and press Ukraine with the other for the sake of the “Russian world”, has nothing to do with the real behavior of a politician in the international arena. International experts meanwhile write about the need for a rapprochement between the United States and the Russian Federation.




If the Russian pro-Kremlin press is now depressed, the Western press, on the contrary, was inspired. It turns out that Trump does not intend to move closer to Russia, to cede the Crimea to it, to lift sanctions and put pressure on NATO. All the way around. And the topic “Trump is ours!” Moved from the Kremlin to Brussels. And at the same time to Berlin.

Michael Thumann in the influential German newspaper «Die Zeit» writes, not without humor, that the President of the United States, Trump, could be a “danger” for Russia.

After the resignation of Michael Flynn, the Russians began to worry about their influence on the United States, says Thoun with irony. Apparently, the "friendship" with Trump can "end without starting."

It is curious that Trump and Putin are very similar - both “in the imperial view of the world” and “in the pathological fixation” on their own egoistic opinions. Looks like these two in management style. Vladimir Putin is unpredictable - in the same way Trump surprises with his antics. What naive Russians didn’t expect from the new administration of the United States was the direct statement of Trump representative Sean Spicer, who called on Russia to return the Crimea to Ukraine.

In fact, Moscow itself has built a foundation for "disappointment." Even advisor Sergey Karaganov "suddenly saw" the possibility of solving many problems in relations between Washington and Moscow: they say, we can agree on Syria, and on Iraq, and on the common fight against terrorism, and even on Ukraine. Chaos in Europe, the collapse of NATO, the new unity of the superpowers, and similar fantasies. And against this background - the image of "Superman Trump." And this seriously reflected in the center of Moscow! “Welcome back to the reality of Russian-American relations! - the journalist will cringe. “The political cult of Moscow’s beloved Trump is an illusion.” The quick end of the Flynn career is an example for the Russians. Everything can change so fast! "Today is Flynn, tomorrow it can be Russia." And if Putin’s unpredictability is only a tactic, then Trump is a trait of character. Hence the danger to the Kremlin, says Tuman.

Brandon Turbeville on the portal "Activist Post" sees in the Trump administration's turn to a new course ... the hand of the CIA. The date of the “micro-turnaround by elements inside the US intelligence apparatus, including the CIA,” this conspiracy theorist announced the day when White House spokesman Shaun Spicer voiced Washington’s position on Crimea. Trump himself later wrote on the web: “Russia took the Crimea during the Obama administration. Wasn't Obama too soft with Russia? ”

According to Turbeville, the CIA’s intended goal is to persuade President Donald Trump, “moving toward rapprochement with Russia,” to abandon his intentions to move closer to the Russians. Western media are full of headlines: Trump claims that the Crimea was “taken” by Russia, Russia must give the peninsula to Ukraine, and so on.

Another exploration deed is the “operation” to “banish” from the White House Michael Flynn. The author is confident that, having put such pressure on Trump, the tire workers made it clear who was the boss. However, this kind of "theater" has not yet been seen in American politics, Turbeville said.

Further, the analyst who is lost in his own reasoning recommends that Trump “immediately” go through the entire reconnaissance apparatus, take it under control and identify the enemies responsible for the leaks of Mr. Flynn’s telephone calls. “Uncontrolled Subjects” Trump should be put under lock, in the same cage Chelsea Manning should be freed from (recall, this is a former man, Bradley Manning, an intelligence analyst, who transmitted this very information to WikiLeaks in incompatible with finding at will).

British writer, political scientist, historian Anatole Liven in "New York Times" believes that Russia will have to restore relations with the United States, and the United States should take into account changes in its own strategy in recent years.

Few of the priorities of the Trump administration received so much negative criticism from the US foreign ministry as the president’s desire to improve relations with Russia. Trump was even called a “pro-Russian” politician. These fabrications became "the subject of conspiracy and scandal theories," the author notes.

However, that is not a drop of meaning. There are many reasons for US rapprochement with Russia, but in reality, Washington will only have enough of its own desire for global hegemony - this alone will lead to the desired result. After all, Russia, unlike China, is not a competitor of the United States. Russia is only a “regional power, struggling to preserve fragments of its former sphere of influence”. In addition, she will have to be "the natural ally of the United States in the fight against Islamic extremism."

If you understand all this, then it becomes clear: the United States, in principle, has no choice but to cooperate with Russia. The old strategy has outlived its usefulness. Judge for yourself: plans to expand American support for the countries of the former Soviet Union turned out to be simply fake; The United States and NATO did not sign up to fight for Georgia in the 2008 year, the same was with Ukraine in the 2014 year. The United States will not go into such a mess in the future. NATO expansion in such conditions loses all meaning. In addition, the population of the European Union is perplexed by its own problems, and not a single state from the EU wants “in the foreseeable future” Ukraine to join with its problems.

According to the historian, the restoration of relations with Russia can begin in Ukraine. Here Anatol Lieven goes unusually far for a Western expert, arguing that "Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula should be accepted." The way of this "adoption" is the following: "The annexation should not be legally recognized," but "US sanctions against Russia should be lifted." At the same time, the United States must work out a compromise with Russia on Donbas: the territory should be demilitarized and handed over to the control of the United Nations peacekeeping forces.

American and NATO officials like to say that such a compromise will stimulate Russian aggression elsewhere, the author recalls. However, this view "is based on self-deception by the Western elites who are interested in maintaining confrontation with Russia."

If Russia invades Latvia or another Baltic country, of course, the United States and its allies must defend themselves, the analyst adds. And they must fight "with all their might," since these countries "are members of NATO and the European Union." Transferring them to the “Russian aggressor” would turn the West into a “moral bankrupt” and “geopolitical impotent”.

As for the rapprochement with Russia in Syria, here the White House does not yet understand what it is all about.

Syrian statehood in the face of Assad is not going to leave, while it is supported by Russia and Iran. Iran, which the White House is now opposed to, is one of the most important allies against jihadists in both Iraq and Syria. And this means that the White House will soon discover "dangerous inconsistencies in its policies." Both Mr. Trump and his recently retired national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, talked about the priority of the fight against the Islamic State. But at the same time they expressed a desire for a new confrontation with Iran. It turns out that both politicians have demonstrated a complete inability to choose priorities.

In addition, Russia believes that it needs permanent good relations with Iran. And Washington is so changeable that any American concessions can be easily withdrawn - for example, by the next administration. (Actually, we add, Trump is already showing how this is done.)

Another likely mistake of short-sighted Trump is the relationship with China. The Russians would never put themselves in danger, drawing closer to the United States, ready to enter into a confrontation with China. 2600 kilometers of the Russian border with China - no joke. And there is no way that the Americans could convince the Russians to take up arms against their neighbor.

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So, while Russia is “disappointed,” some Western experts believe that there are grounds for rapprochement between Russia and the United States, and there are plenty of them. And even the choice, in essence, is not - it is necessary to come closer, and a point. Otherwise, as if the third world war did not happen.

However, Trump's short-sightedness and political blindness, in a matter of weeks, of the reign of those who managed to quarrel with a number of countries on the planet, including the aforementioned China and Iran (and Russia too), speak of the incompetence of this leader, who by the will and destiny of the electoral system in the White House.

The unpredictability of Mr. Trump will play more than one cruel joke with both his fans and opponents. It seems that even the old soldier McCain does not know what to expect from Trump. One thing is clear: the globe will not have to be bored with such a president.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Astart
    Astart 21 February 2017 05: 57
    +8
    No need to get close to us, We generally do not like sweaty bodies nearby. Respect and mutual mutually beneficial projects is enough.
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 21 February 2017 06: 26
      +3
      The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US as president has faded away. Among the propagandists settled disappointment. The propagandists themselves are to blame for this: the image of "Superman Trump" invented by them

      Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
      - especially for topwar.ru


      Dear columnist, well, read the opinion, think about it. Get out of parallel reality. Stop writing fictional images.
      1. Nick
        Nick 21 February 2017 14: 13
        0
        Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
        Dear columnist, well, read the opinion, think about it. Get out of parallel reality. Stop writing fictional images.

        No! He had already saddled this skate. Now it won’t come off for a long time. Otherwise, why was it harnessed ... Well, you understand wink hi
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 21 February 2017 10: 01
      +5
      "What is more dangerous: with Russia or against Russia?"

      Which is more dangerous: with the USA or against the USA?
      More dangerous with .USA! All countries of the world and especially her close friends.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 February 2017 05: 59
    +2
    The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US as president has faded away.


    "Yes, but in the morning came a hangover" ... The mericatos were not friends, they are not friends and will not be. And if during the Second World War they delivered through a land lens, then for yellow metal and other hard currency. Capital rules the world, and you should never forget about it, and where there is money, there are no friends and comrades.
  3. ImPerts
    ImPerts 21 February 2017 06: 07
    +3
    After the resignation of Michael Flynn, the Russians began to worry about their influence on the United States, says Thoun with irony. Apparently, the "friendship" with Trump can "end without starting."

    It is still unknown where Flynn will pop up.
    What the naive Russians did not expect from the new US administration was a direct statement by Trump representative Sean Spicer, who called on Russia to return Crimea to Ukraine.

    Why not expect? Expected. The rhetoric and game of ping-pong Crimea will continue for a long time.
    Today it is Flynn, tomorrow it may be Russia

    Trump fired his daughter on the show, which did not stop him from transferring all the reins in his corporation.
    intelligence act - “operation” of “expelling” Michael Flynn from the White House

    And eavesdropping is not good ...
    tseerushniki made it clear who is the boss in the house

    And then it became very interesting, will Trump butt with the CIA? Because of his unpredictability and obstinacy - maybe.
    And so forth ...
    Paraphrasing one vice-president of the EC "There are countries - EU members and there are countries - small members."
    Now everyone saw that Russia is not a small member (sorry for the pun))).
  4. ML-334
    ML-334 21 February 2017 06: 15
    0
    I think that over the course of the year, Trump will disperse the “viper” in the corners, and there we will see.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 21 February 2017 06: 20
      0
      I think that over the course of the year, Trump will disperse the “viper” in the corners, and there we will see.


      Is there enough strength? what
      The stall into which they drove him was surrounded by people like McKEIN ... and these are stubborn guys ... they understand only power.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 21 February 2017 09: 17
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Is there enough strength?


        Hey. It seems that is not enough. Already in many of his publicly proclaimed positions, Trump worked back. Yes, this was to be expected, the same thing was done by his predecessor - the Nobel soap bubble with ears. And this "red" will still show itself in all its glory.
        1. Astart
          Astart 21 February 2017 12: 04
          +2
          “Politics is the art of the possible,” like Bismarck said ... And it’s hard for the “redhead” among the enemies there ... like Shtirlitsa ... and to say different things ... you have to shout and heyl the USA. Let's see what he will do, not talk.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 21 February 2017 15: 33
            +1
            Quote: Astarte
            let's see what he will do


            The action plan was voiced by the talking (I would say - stinking) head of the US Senate - Lindsay Graham, and at least a year and a half will not go against the Senate Trump. So that Michael Pence and Lindsay Graham sing a song in unison (despite the fact that the first is Trump's man, and the second is his ardent opponent). yes
            1. Astart
              Astart 21 February 2017 16: 57
              +1
              Being afraid to seem boring, I repeat, we will wait for things and not publications in social networks or similar nonsense. Obviously, most (all?) Of high-profile statements are made for a specific consumer: external, internal, internal party, etc.
              And "talking heads" are generally often a lightning rod or touchstone.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 22 February 2017 09: 26
                0
                Quote: Astarte
                Obviously, most (all?) High-profile statements are made per customer


                Yes, somewhere it is, BUT .... But, even if the persistent and smart hourly say that he is hunchbacked, then after a certain time this wise guy will begin to feel his back, and then bend in the lower back. And this is precisely what happens between the presidential administration and the establishment in the United States. I'm afraid the result is Obama. yes
    2. Paste 84
      Paste 84 21 February 2017 23: 22
      +1
      Do not drive) Trump is essentially who? Denomination) 1 person of the state, although the direct and so far little controlled, but it is only so far) Yes rich, yes billionaire, tyrant. Most likely they’ll break it off, rather than he has time to disperse something, they simply will not give it to him. The control system of the US state apparatus is complex and has long been debugged. Management is built essentially on business empires, lobbyists are in the Senate and House of Representatives. The CIA, the NSA are generally separate republics, it is not clear to anyone who obey ... Yes, and so far, Trump has no more or less united company. They grabbed one, others can also squeeze the tails, so that they would not be eaten, or simply repainted. In general, we are waiting and watching) Duel of spiders in the bank)))))
    3. Robin - Bobbin
      Robin - Bobbin 24 February 2017 07: 48
      0
      Let's take a look at business. I especially did not believe that Trump would be friends with us.
  5. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 21 February 2017 06: 26
    +1
    The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US as president has faded away. Among the propagandists settled disappointment. The propagandists themselves are to blame for this: the image of "Superman Trump" invented by them

    Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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    Dear columnist, well, read the opinion, think about it. Get out of parallel reality. Stop writing fictional images.
  6. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 21 February 2017 06: 36
    +2
    Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
    Dear columnist, well, read the opinion, think, Get out of parallel reality. Stop writing fictional images.

    Well, why invented? After all, everyone wanted Trump to be elected president, and no one wanted Clinton. In any case, most of the electorate had hopes for improving relations. The truth is not me. Because I remember Trump in Georgia. One of the few billionaires who supported the revolution of roses Saakashvili., and squeezing Russia out of this country. So that is an abomination! A man who loves to walk on people's heads, yielding something does not gobbler.
  7. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 February 2017 07: 59
    +1
    Submit Mayakovsky here! am

    If the eye of your enemy does not see,
    NEP and bargaining drank your ardor
    if you are not used to hating
    come here to new york.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 21 February 2017 08: 15
    +2
    The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US as president has faded away.
    ..As for me, and did not feel any joy .. That Obama, Trump, H. Clinton .. and the other one field of berries ..
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 February 2017 08: 27
    +3
    the globe will not have to miss such a president.

    That's for sure. And it is not yet known what Trump will present in the near future to both us and Europe. Let's not rush, we'll see. But our diplomats didn’t have to work with such.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 February 2017 09: 18
    0
    Trump with Russia is more dangerous than against it. Throw off. His task, as an obvious weakling, to stay in power. And they will kick him from all sides. But the Germans in the wallet, he looked in vain. Oh, the burghers do not like this.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 21 February 2017 09: 27
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And they will kick him from all sides.


      They will kick it and will do it until he begins to say what is necessary for the "300-ton committee." The wolf pack of the talking "woof-woof" tears to shreds.
  11. vlad007
    vlad007 21 February 2017 10: 40
    +5
    Everything that Trump does has already been!
  12. krops777
    krops777 21 February 2017 12: 18
    +1
    The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US as president has faded away.


    Personally, I didn’t have any illusions about this, America needed a show led by a cool showman, elites understood this, and here you are, either a cowboy idiot, or a “sexist”, or a monkey, if only the will of the owners was fulfilled, otherwise the conversation is short.
  13. iouris
    iouris 21 February 2017 12: 45
    0
    Not only direct military clashes, but internal problems are dangerous. In cases where a major war is excluded, the parties will seek to destroy the enemy from the inside. Nothing personal.
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  15. Alex66
    Alex66 21 February 2017 13: 28
    +1
    Well, radish horseradish is not sweeter, as Russia has only two allies in the army and navy, and now you can add the VKS. When they understand that we will not be a part of the kodga either in the western or eastern world, we will not fit in there, we are like an elephant in a china shop, because they are afraid of us, we ourselves are self-sufficient. We will want to be friends, we would not want to fight, but we will be the same.
  16. raid14
    raid14 21 February 2017 16: 00
    +1
    The rapprochement between the US and Russia is not yet expected, too many contradictions on key issues, claims on the Crimea, Donbass, Syria, Iran, the RDSM treaty, the deployment of NATO troops at the borders are very unnerving for our authorities. If after the Trump meeting, Putin, the leaders will not be able to agree.
    Rather, Trump will follow the path of the Nixon-Kissinger plan for rapprochement with China.
  17. prior
    prior 21 February 2017 16: 51
    0
    Yes, Trampushka, far from Putin.
    Well, a billionaire, well, president, and only ...
    And Putin, you know, PUTIN! a completely different weight category!
    Surrender, Trump, before it's too late ...
    (Katz)
  18. nadezhiva
    nadezhiva 21 February 2017 19: 40
    +1
    The unpredictability of Mr. Trump will play more than one cruel joke with both his fans and opponents. It seems that even the old soldier McCain does not know what to expect from Trump. One thing is clear: the globe will not have to be bored with such a president.

    Who could explain now: “Trump’s predictions” about migrant evening riots in Sweden the day before the incident, WHAT? It was? This is no longer "unpredictability." Is this inability to keep your mouth shut and the real environment of Trump is greatly underestimated?
  19. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 21 February 2017 23: 06
    +2
    In vain is the author about us - we were not led to Trump and are not going to. But we are not refusing to cooperate on an equal footing, and such a position will also be beneficial to the United States.
  20. elenagromova
    elenagromova 22 February 2017 05: 19
    +2
    There was no special "enchantment" by Trump - there was a sharp dislike of his rival
  21. Military Builder
    Military Builder 22 February 2017 05: 56
    0
    The former Russian joy over the election of Mr. Trump to the US has vanished

    you don’t need to be charmed so that you don’t be disappointed then, personally I didn’t have any illusions that with the advent of Trump, the USA will turn its face