The State Duma in the first reading approved the draft on military service under the contract

Today, the State Duma adopted in the first reading a government bill giving the right to men with secondary vocational education and not staying in the reserve to serve under the contract in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, reports RIA News.

At present, only male citizens with a higher education can enter military service under contract without undergoing military service by conscription.

“The idea being implemented by the bill is to give male citizens who are not in the reserve, with secondary vocational education, the right to enter into contracts for military service in military positions of private and non-commissioned officers”, - it is spoken in the explanatory note.

In addition, the bill gives the right to “conscripts” to enter military service under the contract before the expiration of the established 3-month period.

The government believes that the adoption of this law will allow "to recruit the most demanded military posts of a technical profile, to increase the efficiency of operation of armament and military equipment", and also "will create an additional source of replenishment of the mobilization human reserve by trained specialists."

Comments

[grau]

What the hell in the heads of the dibah guzdum

[Political department]

It was high time to pass this law ...! Time is tense, and the prestige of the Army and Navy has risen (in the military enlistment offices) There is such a profession, to defend the Motherland ... Such a right should not only be with officers .. Muzhiks should carefully read the article, otherwise the beating by the crowd will begin now ..

[210ox]

Vitaly, you contradict. Yes, there are queues in the military commissariats ... So there is someone to choose from. Why didn’t the youth sniff (sorry) the footcloth on the contract?

Quote: Political Department

It was high time to pass this law ...! Time is tense, and the prestige of the Army and Navy has risen (in the military enlistment offices) There is such a profession, to defend the Motherland ... Such a right should not only be with officers .. Muzhiks should carefully read the article, otherwise the beating by the crowd will begin now ..

[Political department]

Quote: 210ox

Vitaly, you contradict. Yes, there are queues in the military commissariats ... So there is someone to choose from. Why didn’t the youth sniff (sorry) the footcloth on the contract?

Service, service, discord ...! Let’s admit it ... There are those who will specifically benefit the Army, as specialists ..! (without sweeping the parade ground and outfits in the kitchen and toilets .., there are enough of them ..) Yes, they will not fight in real operations ... But communication, etc. they will competently provide without the slaps of sergeants and officers ..! And it’s precisely high-quality, otherwise they will simply be sent to ... And to "smell the footcloths" ... Oh, how many talented guys were ruined, who simply believed in the army and loved their Motherland and in engineering, electronics, they knew very well ... Good law, and I still remembered the scientific calls .. We are building to go there is someone! But thinking with our head is not enough for us ... That's it .. And the losses are big

[Pirogov]

Quote: Political Department

It was high time to pass this law ...! Time is tense, and the prestige of the Army and Navy has risen (in the military enlistment offices of the line) There is such a profession, to defend the Motherland ... Such a right should not only be with officers .. Muzhiks should carefully read the article, otherwise the beating by the crowd will begin.

And this law was high time to pass and the law on the foreign legion would not be in the way, that’s my opinion.

[Political department]

Quote: Pirogov

Quote: Political Department

It was high time to pass this law ...! Time is tense, and the prestige of the Army and Navy has risen (in the military enlistment offices of the line) There is such a profession, to defend the Motherland ... Such a right should not only be with officers .. Muzhiks should carefully read the article, otherwise the beating by the crowd will begin.

And this law was high time to pass and the law on the foreign legion would not be in the way, that’s my opinion.

He is already ... But unofficially ..! In general, it would be nice to collect such a legion, officially (the experience of the French), but this is very dangerous ... Actually, this is not our tactics .. all the same We don’t send all Chechens and those to Syria .. They are all the same unreliable .. (once they betrayed both the second and the third ..) Better they live under our trunks ... yes I understand everything, but what to do ..

[Sling cutter]

Quote: grau

What the hell in the heads of the dibah guzdum

This is beyond the control of the simple mind.
But many bills are born in the head

government bill

, namely the government, which is very effective from the point of view of even the darkest, is, to put it mildly, surprising.

[210ox]

What the hell? Appearance of the fight against unemployment, gray salaries, etc. .. Whether it’s right or not, opinions are ambiguous. A young person needs to understand where he is going and what. Having no basic concepts is difficult to determine .. Well, I won’t like this service in a week and then what .. Perform duties something like and through force?

Quote: grau

What the hell in the heads of the dibah guzdum

[siberalt]

Taki, you can learn to shoot and the illiterate. If war happens, there will be mobilization. And who will command? PTUshniki who did not pass the urgent appeal?

[Political department]

Quote: siberalt

Taki, you can learn to shoot and the illiterate. If war happens, there will be mobilization. And who will command? PTUshniki who did not pass the urgent appeal?

In Chechnya, the second, and second, personnel officers damn themselves were sent off! ..! Now they are going to the Army, who really wants to serve and defend their homeland! The selection is needed of course. from those who “buy, sell” (there are also many of these) Let them go, they will teach and learn there if they really want to serve and study military service! They’re recruiting specialists who should think in the first place ... Technique comes to the troops very complicated and expensive ..... Another time begins, the programmer, of course, will be able to clean the toilet and fill up the toilet in the corner .. And we march and get tired by heart to know (as a programming language .. etc.) That's it, then he will be angry at the Army and at home ... (for which he was so humiliated when he could bring a lot of benefit with his knowledge ...)
Now the time is different ...

[Teberii]

The visibility is in high demand.

[Banishing liberoids]

You better lay it out for free use so that everyone can get acquainted, otherwise you will adopt laws such that bald skin on its head stands on end.

[Political department]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

You better lay it out for free use so that everyone can get acquainted, otherwise you will adopt laws such that bald skin on its head stands on end.

Everything will be available soon ...

[Ampere]

Norm law, working specialties in the army are needed, this is the rear

[fa2998]

Quote: Political Department

, well, the prestige of the Army and Navy has risen (in the military enlistment offices of the line) There is such a profession, to defend the Homeland ...

Now, if you are a patriot, and your prestige has risen, then go serve an urgent service for FREE (since you love your homeland)! It's like a probationary period, and you will look at the service and they will look at you there. And for the money, this is already work, SERVICE URGENT then to the contract soldiers. One does not interfere with the other, everything is logical!

[Political department]

Quote: fa2998

Now, if you are a patriot, and prestige has risen, then go serve an urgent service for FREE (since you love your homeland)

It’s too late for me already, but if I go (I can shoot, I know well Oise ..)
FREE, that's for sure ... (I work like that now ..) But I’ll go to war anyway ..!

And most of these in Russia ..

[passing]

will you go to war as a political instructor? the slogans of you flow and you hesitate only with the general line of the party

[Political department]

Quote: passing

will you go to war as a political instructor? the slogans of you flow and you hesitate only with the general line of the party

If I have to go and find the words that will raise the soldiers to attack ... Well, I myself must set an example of course .. I often dream of war (call of blood ...) grandfathers and great-grandfathers do not give rest to my soul ..

These are the things in the tank troops ...

[passing]

At the doctors, psychiatry, they say works wonders. Enough to put pressure on patriotism, earn general stars do not rush

[domnich]

Quote: Teberii

The visibility is in high demand.

The Northern Fleet, for example, completely refused military servicemen on warships. And rightly so - you can’t train a ship in a year or two.

[MPK105]

Well, yes, I remember, they recently condemned the term with the contract, opinions were divided. The truth is somewhere nearby, probably.

[MPK105]

Pardonte-o And the arguments there seem to be correct and there are not without meaning I’m here for an urgent term. He lives there all the time, one might say, but the contractor came in the morning, left in the evening ... What an office ...

[basmach]

At you in vain. Here, the mechanics and the ShMAS were enough for us, and they coped normally (within their responsibilities). And if you need 1-2 of the year for training, then this is a different category (and level, respectively). This is already a VU and officers.

[MPK105]

I agree, I tell you, the truth is in the middle. Where is the conscript, and where is the contractor better. Can we leave a useful symbiosis, but not the “OR OR”, as is often the case with us?

[basmach]

So the same contractors were in the SA. Overtimes and ensigns. There was a niche.
It’s just that in all these disputes one thing does not slip. 20 years you will not serve as an ordinary (until the same pension). there aren’t enough warm places for the entire horde of contract soldiers. But who on a civilian in modern conditions needs a person without work experience (believe me, I came across it, such an eicher looks at you and for her your service in aviation is an empty place as an engineer). What to do with them and (most important) to them. Nobody asks this question. In 30 years without education, specialty, but trained to kill and fight. Well, where will he seek application for himself?

[MPK105]

Here I come to this - COMPLETELY, as in the North, to do, and then what to do with this "horde" of contract? Leave the military service, but where is it necessary, well, if you need the region as needed, take it by contract. But not completely. ..Let a certain number of contractors to retirement in their places (of a narrow orientation, not needed by a civilian) serve their gray hair calmly, and then they run to a huge crowd to search for work. From extremes to the extreme why ...

[basmach]

As for the queues in the military enlistment offices, in ours did not observe. Here, just recently, my nephew (in January) was undergoing a medical examination (he was from 2000). I asked how. His words were about 50 people. By "A" (without restrictions) - 12-14 people, by "B" (limited validity, including it) - it’s about 15, the rest are unsuitable.
And about the professional army, he wrote more than once. Already experience was. Until 38, the army was like that. 38 began to recruit on call. It is interesting if it would continue to be “professional,” wherever the Germans would stop. As far as I remember, the draft army won the war (and, oddly enough, all the belligerents).

[captain]

Children, nephews, godchildren, children of friends, etc. need to be attached, well, why do they need urgent service? There is someone to protect the homeland.

[domnich]

Quote: basmach

20 years you can’t serve as an ordinary

On ships of the Navy, manned by civilian personnel, sailors and minders (not all, of course) have worked for 20 for more than a year. And nothing - quite respected people and real professionals.

When a boatswain from a cruiser came to us to get a job after a military service, it turned out that in his training he could only claim to be a 2 class sailor ...

[basmach]

And we have the whole army is a fleet or whatever. I then, considered it a sinful thing, that the basis of the army is the Ground Forces. And I have already pointed out that more trained personnel (officers and ensigns) carry out more complex and skilled work in the army. including the boatswain. In my group in TEC there was one civilian employee (before that I worked at a rembase). And in the whole TEC-couple of contract soldiers, 4-5 civilian women and 4 pensioners. Everything else is officers and ensign. And from the contractors it was useless as well as from the conscripts, bring it, go ...., don’t interfere.

[Achtaba1970]

Quote: basmach

As for the queues in the military enlistment offices, in ours did not observe. Here, just recently, my nephew (in January) was undergoing a medical examination (he was from 2000). I asked how. His words were about 50 people. By "A" (without restrictions) - 12-14 people, by "B" (limited validity, including it) - it’s about 15, the rest are unsuitable.
And about the professional army, he wrote more than once. Already experience was. Until 38, the army was like that. 38 began to recruit on call. It is interesting if it would continue to be “professional,” wherever the Germans would stop. As far as I remember, the draft army won the war (and, oddly enough, all the belligerents).

The draft recruited because the personnel almost all died in 41, and then they served on the draft for more than 1 year

[basmach]

They served the 3 of the year, and even the first set was not fired, this made it possible that the army had grown to 3 million people, more or less trained, by the beginning of the war (the reason for the poor training was the great illiteracy of the population, not without reason Bismarck said that the German teacher won the war. ) We did not have time in the USSR to eradicate illiteracy as a legacy of the "beautiful tsarist" era. Many sergeants did not know how to use the compass. Well, ask yourself why the personnel were killed, at the same time, make a conclusion. After all, weapons are not made for parades. And when they say now about the pros, maneuvering wars, small pro-armies, amateurs carry hush. No need to go far. Donbass is a solid front line, deeply echeloned, saturated with anti-terrorist operation, with a defense base in the form of fortified areas based on settlements. Something doesn’t work out in the form of separate BTGs to break through the defense and cracks, so that there is no way through. , again as in the first world-positional impasse.

[Vasyata]

[quote = programmer, of course he will be able to clean the toilet and toilets the bed in the corner .. And we are marching and know the charter by heart [/ Quote]
And I do not quite agree with you. In any warrior, the core should be, the core is reinforced concrete, Otherwise, the first "bump" "crack", etc. that is, by his weakness of will he can betray his Homeland, not knowingly, no. And peeling potatoes with a blunt spoon, sorting cleaning is the best way to temper this inner core. I served. I AM

[Vasyata]

[quote = Another time begins, the programmer, of course, will be able to clean the house and fill the toilet seats in the corner .. And we are marching and know the rules by heart: [/ quote]
And I do not quite agree with you. In each Warrior, the core should be reinforced concrete. Otherwise, the homeland can be betrayed by weakness. And peeling potatoes with a blunt spoon, sorting and walking we build in the heat for several hours best tempers this core inside. Come on, criticize ...