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Belarus will buy oil from Iran

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Today news agency to Reuters publishes material, which reports on the first transaction for the purchase of oil by Belarus from Iran. The material says that Minsk will acquire about 600 thousand barrels of crude oil from the National Iranian Oil Company. Attention is drawn to the fact that the state-owned company RB "Belorusneft" entered into an agreement with the Iranian supplier through its Polish representative office.

At the same time, the news agency does not report on which route the oil from Iran will go to Belarus. One of the routes looks like this: oil will be delivered to Azerbaijan, from where through Georgia and the Black Sea - to the port of Odessa. Further - the railway route. An alternative delivery option is being considered - through Russian territory. But the second option, taking into account the obvious cooling in relations between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, looks doubtful.

A third option is also reported - the delivery of oil through the Latvian port of Ventspils, but how long Iranian oil will reach Ventspils is a separate issue.

Before publication to Reuters Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of Belarus Vladimir Semashko said that "a protocol on oil and gas issues has been agreed between Minsk and Moscow." However, it remains not entirely clear whether the protocol has already been agreed upon taking into account oil purchases from Iran, or is there no talk of Iranian oil for the Republic of Belarus now? ..

Belarus will buy oil from Iran


Let us remind you that the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko instructed the government to “look for alternative suppliers of oil and gas” after voicing Russia's demands to pay off the accumulated debt.
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  1. Vasya_Piterskiy
    Vasya_Piterskiy 16 February 2017 16: 54
    +51
    It would seem that Belarusians are our friends and brothers ... But here again and again we are convinced that there are no friends, brothers, or godfathers in politics ... If you want to be respected, you must make you afraid ... It seems to me that something else does not work ...
    1. Political department
      Political department 16 February 2017 16: 57
      +19
      Why not Venezuela at once, but Old Man ..? Won Ukraine, under Yaytsenyukh, already bought coal from South Africa (though no one knows where he went later ..))) You still need to pay Old Man, enough to spin like a whirligig ... hi
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 16 February 2017 17: 25
        +6
        Quote: Political Department
        Why not Venezuela at once, but Old Man ..

        Quote: Political Department
        One of the routes looks like this: oil will be delivered to Azerbaijan, from where through Georgia and the Black Sea - to the port of Odessa. Further - the railway route.

        Taking into account Rodents and Ukro-thieves, only tanks with the smell of oil will reach the daddy. And the question is, will they get it ?! What is he even thinking about? Or moved to the surreal world?
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 February 2017 18: 15
        +7
        Quote: Political Department
        Why not Venezuela at once, but Old Man ..?

        Well, of course you compared it. Iran is much closer and the infrastructure is there. In fact, the most obvious option possible.
        1. Political department
          Political department 16 February 2017 19: 29
          +2
          Quote: Yeraz
          Quote: Political Department
          Why not Venezuela at once, but Old Man ..?

          Well, of course you compared it. Iran is much closer and the infrastructure is there. In fact, the most obvious option possible.

          We know these options ... Do you want to drag Old Man away from Russia? "Whisperers" are well-known in Aliyev's works ... It is not the first time that we will figure it out ourselves! Or WE are not brothers Belarusians ..! They want to play us off, that's for sure ...!
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 16 February 2017 19: 41
            +4
            Quote: Political Department
            We know these options ... Do you want to drag Old Man away from Russia?

            funny))))
            Azerbaijan doesn’t have as many resources as little Qatar to pull Belarus. By the way, why pull it away from Russia ?? It has always been on the side of Azerbaijan in the best times of friendship with the Russian Federation and in the worst.
            Aliyev dreams of how to drag Russia itself away from Armenia (which is impossible), and so all Russia's allies are already on the side of Azerbaijan.

            Quote: Political Department
            Or WE are not brothers Belarusians ..! They want to play us off, that's for sure ...!

            And it can work. They managed to make the largest Orthodox and Slavic country with Russia as enemies, 10 million Belarus can also be made with the right approach.
            1. Political department
              Political department 16 February 2017 19: 59
              +4
              Quote: Yeraz
              Azerbaijan doesn’t have as many resources as little Qatar to pull Belarus. By the way, why pull it away from Russia ?? It has always been on the side of Azerbaijan in the best times of friendship with the Russian Federation and in the worst.

              Also funny ...))) I believe you ... bully You hope that daddy will let your people enter the markets to trade ..? He knows what will happen next (from the experience of Russia))))
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 16 February 2017 20: 58
                +1
                Quote: Political Department
                You hope that daddy will let your people enter the markets to trade ..?

                I did not understand the connection at all. The Azerbaijani budget does not depend on transfers from abroad. Ours settle in places of residence, bringing all our relatives. And those who send money to their homeland are in the minority.
                Iii people from Belarus itself are fleeing to Russia, why should Azerbaijanis go there)))
                Quote: Political Department
                He knows what will happen next (from the experience of Russia))))

                And what happened in Russia? Everything is covered by the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, depending on the level of business and if someone picks up they will quickly take away the Business. Therefore, the rich representatives of the Diaspora are all people with FSB contacts and their sense for an ordinary representative of his homeland or for the Motherland itself is almost zero. There is no way to call them and for all they are nobody.
        2. krass
          krass 16 February 2017 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: Yeraz
          Quote: Political Department
          Why not Venezuela at once, but Old Man ..?

          Well, of course you compared it. Iran is much closer and the infrastructure is there. In fact, the most obvious option possible.

          Dad bought it in Venezuela, about 7 years ago, even from Chavez.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 16 February 2017 21: 41
            0
            Quote: krass
            Dad bought it in Venezuela, about 7 years ago, even from Chavez.

            small supply. And this can be with Iran. It is necessary to know for how much they agreed to sell.
      3. skarl
        skarl 16 February 2017 18: 29
        +5
        Usraina is now buying coal from South Africa ... it’s current composition as well as mattress fuel doesn’t fit anywhere for nuclear power plants .. What do they do with this coal HZ in a word DB ...
      4. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 16 February 2017 19: 05
        +29
        In Venezuela, they already bought it, it turned out too expensive ... Such a margin as buying for a pittance in Russia, and selling gasoline on the market in the EU will no longer be ... and for its citizens ... Otherwise, Gazprom will by hook or by crook continue to delay gasification and issue frantic bills for connection, and take away their transport monopoly ... Let the pipeline gas sell all gas and Rosneft and Lukoil ... There is Transneft, and there will be also Transgaz ... The more transparent the system, the less theft and corruption, the more incentives for the development of consumption within the country ... And with the MET and export duties to pay subsidies to pensioners and the poor ... gas in a row and to those who barely makes ends meet and to all the comrades who heat their locks by 300 sq.no export duty is paid, the poor and pensioners will receive subsidies, and the rich will pay for resources on the market ... And with Belarus on the market, enough to exchange friendship for money, and let Lukashenka decide what he wants - an independent state or an alliance with Russia ... If a completely independent state, then Russia does not need to buy Belarusian equipment to the detriment of itself, all tractor plants were closed in Ryazan and Lipetsk and Volgograd, for what? For Lukashenka to build socialism in Belarus? For God's sake - let it build, just not at the expense of Ryazan and other cities of Russia, in Ryazan, for example, there is no work at all now, there was a construction site, and now it has stopped, 500 t.ch. in the city, and now there are no major enterprises. The Ryazan Combine Plant was closed in 2003 ... But MTZ is pooping at Lukashenka's, and he also spits at us for that .... Foo bl. got it ...
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        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 16 February 2017 21: 36
          +3
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Otherwise, Gazprom will, by hook or by crook, delay gasification and issue frantic bills for connection, and take away their transport monopoly ...

          The gas pipe that passes through the Republic of Belarus belongs to Gazprom, who owns Gazprom, this is a difficult question,
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 16 February 2017 21: 47
            +2
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            , who owns Gazprom is a difficult question,

            Nothing complicated, everything is in the public domain.
      5. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 16 February 2017 19: 58
        +1
        Something tells me that Iranian oil will cost more than Russian oil, well, let my mother's ears freeze if they want to.
      6. major147
        major147 16 February 2017 22: 47
        0
        You will laugh, but in Venezuela he already bought ...
      7. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 17 February 2017 15: 00
        +5
        the iron logic of this bam ferret, if there are new sources of supply, you can not pay for the old ones))
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 February 2017 17: 03
      +23
      Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
      It would seem that Belarusians are our friends and brothers ... But here again and again we are convinced that there are no friends, no brothers, no godfathers in politics ...

      Again, hysteria about Batka and RB. It is interesting to be curious, why should the RB buy oil from the Russian Federation, not even from the Russian Federation itself, but from commercial structures that, in a strange way, are owned by oligarchic structures, provided that Iran offers more favorable conditions?
      By the way, Old Man didn't sell anything to Qatar.
      1. Zibelew
        Zibelew 16 February 2017 17: 10
        +10
        Oil is supplied to Belarus for $ 8 billion a year. There they drive gasoline from it, sell it to Europe and keep it for themselves. Revenue - one and a half to two times. At the same time, Minsk retained a free trade zone with Kiev. Therefore, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex may well receive Russian spare parts for armored vehicles through Belarus. The reverse process is also possible. But these are already the sins of the Russian customs officers, about whom the Old Man said that “for money they can do everything. We give their names - and nothing, no reaction. "
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 16 February 2017 17: 29
          +3
          Quote: Zibelew
          about whom Old Man said that “for money they can do everything. We give their names - and nothing, no reaction. "

          We give one name: - Lukashenka, owner of 34 African countries, whose importer he is!
          1. Zibelew
            Zibelew 16 February 2017 17: 59
            +3
            - Not for the sake of self-interest, - Father Fyodor sang, - but only in fulfillment of the will of his sick wife,
            - Well, honey, my wife is sick too. Really, Musik, your lungs are out of order? But I do not demand on this basis that you ... well ... sell me, say, your jacket for thirty kopecks. (with)
        2. klas000000
          klas000000 16 February 2017 17: 31
          +2
          Plagiarism - taken from another site, but no link. Not good.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 16 February 2017 20: 37
            +2
            Quote: klas000000
            Plagiarism - taken from another site, but no link. Not good.

            And here two-thirds of the plagiarism, the same as on other sites.
        3. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 16 February 2017 17: 59
          +1
          Uh-huh, but Lukashenka has obligations to supply gasoline to the Russian market. And this he does not fulfill.
          1. My doctor
            My doctor 16 February 2017 21: 58
            0
            Quote: Alex_Tug
            Uh-huh, but Lukashenka has obligations to supply gasoline to the Russian market. And this he does not fulfill.

            Funny. In Belarus, gasoline is more expensive than in Russia, and therefore Lukashenka will not be able to sell oil in any way. It turned out that despite the conditional shortage of gasoline in the federation, it is more profitable for companies like Lukoil to bring gasoline from Russia to their gas stations in the republic than to take it locally.
            1. Alex_Tug
              Alex_Tug 16 February 2017 22: 45
              +1
              In Belarus, gasoline is more expensive than in Russia

              It does not matter. In the oil supply agreement, it is spelled out in the event of a shortage of gasoline in the Russian Federation (refineries have closed for repairs), the Republic of Belarus should primarily supply gasoline to the Russian Federation and not to Kiev.
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 16 February 2017 17: 23
        +13
        Of course it shouldn't! True, it is cheaper from the Russian Federation, but, as practice shows, sometimes it is more expensive to buy - it is better. Specifically for some comrades ...
        How is it in Next - From cheap projects, there is nothing to steal, young man!
        And here, babble! buy in Iran, once, take two to Odessa, unload, by the way, and load into tanks - this can be 3,4 and ... 5,6 in addition, Ukraine, not a pound of raisins, then the tanks themselves " knock out ", draw the lettering to the compositions - and count to 10! This is not like paying Russia for oil and for a pipe under an intergovernmental contract.
        And where???? Live on what?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 16 February 2017 17: 42
          0
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        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 16 February 2017 17: 59
          +2
          I naively thought that Belarus does not steal
          1. 0255
            0255 16 February 2017 18: 03
            +7
            Quote: Monarchist
            I naively thought that Belarus does not steal

            Even how they steal. Not everything in Belarus is as beautiful as they still think in Russia recourse
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 16 February 2017 18: 09
              +3
              Quote: 0255
              More how to steal

              They steal everywhere in the USA and the EU and even in Israel. lol
            2. My doctor
              My doctor 16 February 2017 22: 00
              0
              Details soldier
              Quote: 0255
              Even how they steal. Not everything in Belarus is as beautiful as Russia still thinks recourse
              Speak, speak do not hesitate here all yours.
        3. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 16 February 2017 21: 41
          +1
          Quote: Vlad.by
          And where???? Live on what?

          For fees for social dependency.
      3. Lex.
        Lex. 16 February 2017 17: 52
        +1
        Yes, and Surgut oil under the USSR was a branch of Belarusneft
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 February 2017 17: 03
      +10
      Let us remind you that the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko instructed the government to “look for alternative suppliers of oil and gas” after voicing Russia's demands to pay off the accumulated debt.

      Now the debt to Iran will accumulate, Batya Rostov is not rubber. negative
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 February 2017 17: 08
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        Debt to Iran will now accumulate

        Well, what is the debt for? Belarus may well pay off Iran with military technology, I think Tehran will only be glad.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 16 February 2017 17: 21
          +2
          And what such cooperation between Belarus and Iran exists says, for example, the chassis of the new Iranian air defense system Raad, which is very similar to the Belarusian chassis for the air defense system Buk.
          Iranian air defense system Raad.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 February 2017 17: 22
            +2
            Belarusian version of the Buk air defense system on the MZKT-6922 chassis
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 16 February 2017 17: 36
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Belarus may well pay off Iran with military technology, I think Tehran will only be glad.

          Ukrainians have already surrendered everything to China, and it is clearly not a competitor to them! Although the liar and extortionist is still the same!
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 February 2017 17: 44
            0
            Quote: Tol100v
            Ukrainians have already surrendered everything to China

            So I'm talking about Belarus
          2. Lex.
            Lex. 16 February 2017 18: 00
            +6
            The Ukrainians will not surrender anything new to China, they have nothing new, but Russia has tested on its DZZ satellites equipment that removes 0,7 meters resolution, the next telescope is 0,5 meters on the way
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 16 February 2017 18: 27
              0
              Lex., Welcome, but can I read the article? Or I'll find it myself - tell me the name of the telescope
            2. Franciscan
              Franciscan 16 February 2017 22: 45
              0
              And Belarus is going to launch a new satellite with a resolution of 0.5, so what?
            3. AID.S
              AID.S 17 February 2017 06: 42
              0
              Quote: Lex.
              The Ukrainians will not surrender anything new to China, they have nothing new, but Russia has tested on its DZZ satellites equipment that removes 0,7 meters resolution, the next telescope is 0,5 meters on the way

              And we have gas in our apartment ..... (quote from a well-known work)
      2. Monarchist
        Monarchist 16 February 2017 18: 06
        +3
        Comrade vocanpain, why is it necessary to Rostov, after all, he is friends with the Maydauns, he makes his eyes geyrope. So, the choice of where to "while away old age" with a beam, however, the question arises: do you want to shelter?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 16 February 2017 17: 31
      +2
      If BR was buying our cheap oil for margin on refining, then what is the point of buying Iranian oil at world prices? This is the Ukrainian way of economic collapse.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 February 2017 18: 18
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        then what is the point of buying Iranian at world prices?

        Do you think oil is always sold at world prices? How many times have the Saudis and other Arabs sold at below world prices in order to knock out competitors from the market and dominate. After all, there is actually a lot of oil on the market and there is a struggle for markets. Iran, in principle, can agree at a lower price than the world price in order to sell its oil. Since the Arabs and Russia have a powerful presence in other markets, it is difficult for Iran to break through there.
    5. Shurik70
      Shurik70 16 February 2017 18: 39
      +7
      Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
      It would seem that Belarusians are our friends and brothers ... But here again and again we are convinced that there are no friends, brothers, or godfathers in politics ... If you want to be respected, you must make you afraid ... It seems to me that something else does not work ...

      I do not understand.
      Well, okay, Ukraine, there and under the Soviet Union there were enough Bandera members that were not killed.
      But with Belarus, what the hell is going on in politics.
      I don’t believe that they want to quarrel with us.
      I don’t believe that we are raising their prices or demanding something unacceptable.
      I believe in what the free bachelors want, but to be offended for not being given it - ...
      sad
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 16 February 2017 20: 52
        +5
        It's just that Belarus has become a hostage of one person who is aiming to become "emperors" with the right of inheritance. And it seems that in the West this was promised to him, in return for turning away from Russia. It seems that the authorities have turned their heads in the end, the question here is the adequacy of my father, who in their right mind believes in the West? They will be dumped and thrown, and then on a visit to Yanyk, or immediately on a date with Gaddafi.
      2. KaPToC
        KaPToC 16 February 2017 23: 27
        +2
        Quote: Shurik70
        I do not understand.
        Well, okay, Ukraine, there and under the Soviet Union there were enough Bandera members that were not killed.
        But with Belarus, what the hell is going on in politics.

        They do not want to be torn off from their nipples, but when they are torn off, they will hate us more than any Balts there, relatives hate each other the most.
    6. antivirus
      antivirus 16 February 2017 20: 09
      +2
      Without reading the comments below. Dad did the right thing. It probably pays with MAZs and seeders. will quickly understand the wallpaper. that traditional supplies are better.
      Under the carpet - are there contracts? with an advance payment and possibly large in Zakutok, it must be done at any cost (the margin is good). And to crush Ukrov everything is postponed and shifted.
      There is no New Russia in the world of cash. there is "to put under control the assets of interest" Ukrii fuel and energy complex (apparently all) is quietly changing owners, and our oligarchs take part in this derebane. Even through third intermediaries.
    7. Prince of Pensions
      Prince of Pensions 16 February 2017 20: 34
      +2
      POWER, money and power again. What kind of friends can we talk about when people have such drugs in their hands? God forbid war, people will come asking for protection. And power .. they are on their own.
    8. kapitan92
      kapitan92 16 February 2017 20: 34
      +5
      Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
      It would seem that Belarusians are our friends and brothers ...

      Why it seemed that there are friends and brothers! Here are just a cunning collective farmer sometimes brings.
      Colleagues! This is fake news. Bought an oil tanker, so what? The main question is the price! Iran is not a "brotherly" country of Belarus, and it will sell its oil at world prices, add transportation costs, overhead, and after processing such oil, the price of the final product increases. To whom will this "stepfather" shove gasoline in the west? The market is saturated with hydrocarbons.
      There was a game on the difference in prices no more, add to this that there is a decrease in the volume of export duties on oil products obtained from Russian oil. These duties, according to agreements with Moscow, remain in the budget of Belarus.
      "Stepfather" is bluffing!
    9. major147
      major147 16 February 2017 22: 49
      +1
      I think one should not confuse the people and the government.
    10. alexmach
      alexmach 17 February 2017 00: 08
      +3
      Making them afraid is also primitive and can get out sideways. It is necessary to create a situation where friendship and loyalty is more profitable than "wagging backwards." But this is oh, how in real life is not easy
      1. estidea
        estidea 17 February 2017 22: 16
        0
        "advantageous" is not the right word for friendship. And to deal with Lukashenka means to constantly face cheating and whining.
    11. estidea
      estidea 17 February 2017 20: 51
      +2
      and why do you have such a reaction? That a small country is trying to develop its economy? Well, if oil from Iran is profitable, then let them buy, why hysteria? Such tantrums can bring a relationship to a break.
    12. - = ANTRAX = -
      - = ANTRAX = - 25 February 2017 23: 05
      0
      on good-neighborly relations with the Russian Federation everyone earns, except for the Russian Federation itself.
  2. cniza
    cniza 16 February 2017 16: 54
    +6
    The flag is in their hands, maybe the dad will understand that Russia is still better.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 16 February 2017 16: 56
      +12
      This news is like a sickle over bells - something on our news portals is silence ...
      1. himRa
        himRa 16 February 2017 17: 15
        +7
        Calm down Pasha! It is very similar to a throw-in, because if Russia is to be bypassed, it will become very expensive! Belarusian sea in the wet dreams of Psaki laughing
        So it's better to be friends and don't have to look for options, they are doomed to failure!
      2. Franciscan
        Franciscan 16 February 2017 22: 47
        +2
        Judging by the noise. the eggs were Kremlin-style.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 February 2017 17: 05
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      maybe dad will understand that Russia is still better.

      Than skem?
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 16 February 2017 17: 43
        +2
        Than skem?


        Iran, ukroinoy, Latvia, Lithuania and other stuff
        1. Franciscan
          Franciscan 16 February 2017 22: 48
          0
          and what is better?
    3. lapsha
      lapsha 16 February 2017 17: 45
      +2
      For Belarus, it is better only with those with whom it is profitable.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 16 February 2017 17: 48
        +5
        then it is time for Belarus to join the Russian Federation. Independence and benefits for your country are completely opposite things.

        The independence of the Republic of Belarus is a hole in the pants in the area of ​​the fifth point and debts, debts, debts.

        Either you will be under NATO, or under the Russian Federation. 3rd is not given.

        Your country is bankrupt and lives in debt. No matter how it hurts your ears.

        Therefore, if your country was looking for benefits and a better life for the population - all this show called independence would have ended long ago

        So far, this show is only beneficial for the cooperative and its chairman, but not for the people - absolutely sure)

        Well, all that remains is to listen to stories from Lukashenka about evil Russian oligarchs and other nonsense)

        1. lapsha
          lapsha 16 February 2017 17: 54
          +5
          And who does not live on debt now? These are the realities.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 16 February 2017 18: 13
            +9
            The Russian Federation does not borrow from the Republic of Belarus - these are the realities.

            And you borrow from both the Russian Federation and the IMF, and the devil knows who else)

            And you understand this. Just imaginary independence apparently caresses your ear and mind)

            And you and Ukraine. Only Ukraine has already bitten off the hand that threw her life - and you have not yet.

            I really want our countries to be reunited and do not think that I don’t like Belarusians there or something else.

            I understand that you may be looking at a similar population of Israel or some European country - but it's not an option at all to compare. The Anglo-Saxons will not allow Belarus to become Korea or the second Israel - for you are Russian. And they don't like us anywhere

          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 17 February 2017 06: 41
            0
            [/ quote] [quote = lapsha] Who does not live on credit now? These are the realities.

            Russia does not live on debt. In 2017, Russia pays the last debts to the USSR (here your part is also available) to Herzegovina and Bosnia.
        2. My doctor
          My doctor 16 February 2017 22: 12
          0
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          then it is time for Belarus to join the Russian Federation. Independence and benefits for your country are completely opposite things.

          That's right, honestly, for this and a plus. But why do you need RB to be a part of the Russian Federation? The Russian people will gain nothing from this, but this is only my personal opinion.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 16 February 2017 23: 30
            +1
            Quote: MyVrach
            The Russian people will gain nothing from this, but this is only my personal opinion.

            And I say - we must break all fraternal ties outside the Russian state, our brothers live with us in the same state - the rest are non-brothers (in one word)
          2. St Petrov
            St Petrov 17 February 2017 01: 58
            0
            the people gain nothing from disunity. And together it will somehow be easier. You have a great infrastructure. You will not require infusions like Crimea. We will not lose

            But taxes will already be in our common treasury. Organize your army and enroll in the RF Armed Forces. Integrate like Crimea.

            And another 8 million citizens will not be superfluous for the state. Moreover, the titular nation.

            Even in the Crimea, your officials will be old. And on the example of Kadyrov - the Kremlin can make concessions to the tsar)

            And move the border further from the center. In general, I think there are more pluses than minuses.
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 16 February 2017 17: 49
      +11
      Quote: cniza
      , maybe dad will understand that Russia is still better.

      It seems that the dad is going to tick. And it's a shame for the Belarusian people! They will involve him in the "potato revolution" and he will not notice it himself! Has the State Department spent all these years only on Ukraine !? He spent and is still spending money on shaking the entire post-SOVIET space! Here are Kazakhstan and Moldova, as well as all other states that want to EXTEND from Russia! It is easier for the SGA to buy corrupt politicians for painted money than to fight! They do not know how to fight, and they have no equal to buy traitors!
      1. cost
        cost 17 February 2017 02: 29
        +3
        Quote: 0255
        More how to steal
        They steal everywhere in the USA and the EU and even in Israel.

        Feel free to say! So my friend you will soon agree to the point that the gypsies are not without sin
  3. Yeraz
    Yeraz 16 February 2017 16: 58
    +1
    Sly Old Man. How long-term cooperation is this?
    1. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 16 February 2017 17: 31
      +3
      Ali hi -before the first payment belay
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 February 2017 18: 20
        +2
        Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
        Ali - until the first payment

        Lukashenko understands that this is Iran. Iran will not poke around, etc. He will sue, as in the case of the Russian Federation and Belarus there is nowhere to go. On the contrary, business between such countries always goes smoothly, there are shoals where there is brotherhood, common interests and so on what you can play and play for time.
        1. Franciscan
          Franciscan 16 February 2017 22: 51
          +1
          Belarus, unlike Russia, observes its treaties and does not throw partners, therefore no one will sue her.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 16 February 2017 23: 31
            0
            Quote: Franciscan
            Belarus, unlike Russia, observes its treaties and does not throw partners, therefore no one will sue her.

            Why won't she pay off debts to Russia?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 February 2017 17: 00
    +12
    Approximately 30 echelons (50 tanks each). Is this in a year? Roughly, 3 trains a month? And the volume, for Belarusian refineries - for one bite. This is a "show", and not a serious reversal in the relationship. Daddy bluffs with bad cards, not suspecting that the enemy sees right through him. laughing
  5. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 16 February 2017 17: 03
    +3
    The freebie for the daddy was always sweeter, that he sat on his throne, almost starting to bullshit after him.
  6. Vlad.by
    Vlad.by 16 February 2017 17: 07
    +19
    Why should we ...
    Batyan said salary for drinking - the Ministry of Industry at the time of the order sent all directors of enterprises - to that date (I do not remember) so that everyone has a drink! and not a dollar less! otherwise .... ay yay yay!
    It's the same with oil - we said we'll do it - and we did it. And they treated Venezuela, and Azerbaijan ... It's a garbage question - a steamer to Ventspilsya and Odessa, and then a morning horse to Mozyr and Novopolotsk, or rather vice versa. Well it is much cheaper than from Russia through the pipe. Again, we will "tilt" Russia for gas!
    Now, really, what about the mango harvest and the rich catch of shrimp?
    Well, if Russia "tilts", then trucks with mangoes will not take this rise.
    But nobody thinks about it yet. What for? Dad will think, order, and ...
    Fortunately, we have already bought popcorn, we have put an upholstered chair, we will do to watch the finale of this tragicomedy.
    1. My doctor
      My doctor 16 February 2017 22: 18
      0
      Quote: Vlad.by
      And they treated Venezuela, and Azerbaijan ... It's a garbage question - a steamer to Ventspilsya and Odessa, and then a morning horse to Mozyr and Novopolotsk, or rather vice versa.

      The Mozyr Oil Refinery processed Venezuelan oil, while Novopolotsk is focused only on Russian oil.
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  8. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 16 February 2017 17: 08
    +4
    Against the background of all the raids on Russia, this one still adds fuel to the fire and stands with a knife behind his back, all this is at least meanness.
  9. Dormidont2
    Dormidont2 16 February 2017 17: 09
    +3
    600 thousand, but we need 10 million tons request
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 17 February 2017 09: 52
      0
      We need 20 million tons to load the refinery.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 16 February 2017 17: 09
    +2
    But father would buy a well from Iran right away.
  11. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 16 February 2017 17: 09
    0
    Well, if it is expensive to buy from Russia, why not buy it cheaper.
    Although dealing with Iran is not self-respecting.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 February 2017 17: 26
      +8
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Although dealing with Iran is not self-respecting.

      Explain how to deal with Iran, worse than with the Qatar or the Saudis? what
    2. Banishing liberoids
      Banishing liberoids 16 February 2017 17: 30
      +2
      Rabinovich is called political blackmail am
    3. avt
      avt 16 February 2017 17: 41
      +9
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Well, if it is expensive to buy from Russia, why not buy it cheaper.

      Verb the truth, like a baby! Or is it a baby, but reached out to Claudia ?? And also gas in Slovakia, or from Poland ... in reverse. Some have already checked. bully
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      This news is like a sickle over bells - something on our news portals is silence ...

      Or maybe real
      Quote: himRa
      looks like stuffing, because if Russia is to bypass it will become very expensive!

      Not only . Iranian oil, it is specific for processing. But even if it really is not stuffing, then it is banal and spent, but worn down to holes
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      political blackmail

      Only here's who Batska was going to blackmail so ???? I don't know ..... bully
    4. Lex.
      Lex. 16 February 2017 17: 54
      +5
      If Iran is an enemy for Israel and the United States, this does not mean that for others, too, and imagine France also buys Iranian oil, and so what?
      1. Rabinowicz
        Rabinowicz 16 February 2017 18: 54
        +1
        In France, there are already more Arabs than French, no wonder.
        1. activator
          activator 16 February 2017 22: 34
          +1
          Quote: Rabinovich
          In France, there are already more Arabs than French, no wonder.

          So yes, the hour is uneven France will declare war on Israel
    5. Hey
      Hey 16 February 2017 20: 09
      +1
      Well, if it is expensive to buy from Russia, why not buy it cheaper.


      We say: "Overseas, a heifer is a half, but a ruble ferry."
  12. polev66
    polev66 16 February 2017 17: 11
    +2
    well buy .. well, deliver ... and the price of the question? How much more expensive will be delivery by sea, then by land through the outskirts or Lithuania? or poland? and then the final cost to the consumer? I think the citizens of the squirrels will not be very happy with the increase in fuel prices
  13. bald
    bald 16 February 2017 17: 12
    +2
    --- "The oil will be delivered to Azerbaijan, from where it will go through Georgia and the Black Sea to the port of Odessa." --- This enterprise is painfully doubtful. At least half will get it? lol True, there is an option - on "Derezhbandely" - again, the airspace of Russia cannot be avoided. Grigorievich is wise - you have to be simpler.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 February 2017 18: 22
      +2
      Quote: bald
      At least half will get it?

      Well, so far, Azerbaijani oil has always reached. And those some parties that periodically went to Ukraine and Belarus also steadily reached. It is out of place to exaggerate.
  14. jovanni
    jovanni 16 February 2017 17: 12
    +3
    One of the routes looks like this: oil will be delivered to Azerbaijan, from where through Georgia and the Black Sea - to the port of Odessa. Further - the railway route.

    A very good option. Svidomye friends Lukashenka will be able to keep their share for themselves. Comfortable! True, little will reach Belarus, but that's another question. And the option is very good ...
    1. loginovich
      loginovich 16 February 2017 18: 30
      +1
      An oil pipeline runs through Turkey exactly from Azerbaijan, so that there will be no special problems to deliver to Odessa. Before the Maidan, Batka carried oil from Venezuela for a year.
    2. Franciscan
      Franciscan 16 February 2017 23: 16
      0
      So far, everything has come through.
  15. demos1111
    demos1111 16 February 2017 17: 17
    +13
    But what about you, Russia will take it, but patience will burst even at the very first oil supply from Iran, as soon as our guarantor blurt out about "we will live without a senior" Take even our contracted volumes over the hill.
    As soon as he gets it, excuse him, no more, come back in a year.
    And we will live in a big country.
    The bear has sat down, it is high time to unite the Slavs under a single command. Well, it’s like, one in the yard "basement", the rest have become easier.
    Few Russians, you need us, and you need the whole southeast.
    We hope for you ..
    1. Franciscan
      Franciscan 16 February 2017 23: 17
      +1
      You do not speak for all the Slavs. And they will unite under the Kremlin Jews for an amateur.
      1. demos1111
        demos1111 17 February 2017 09: 21
        +1
        Of all the posts, only yours against the unity of the Slavs. The will, of course, is yours, but in history it has already happened, to you or to those as you clearly explained. Forgotten apparently. A.V. Suvorov explained!
        Really have more. They are there in the Kremlin trying to unite with good, they already see that it does not roll with good, but letting go, which means in the future to make enemies out of us (some of the Ukrainians showed).
        Will you put yourself in their place, or do you think our oppressor would have scrambled in that case? I would have crushed it long ago.
        So either run, or change your point of view, or wait for Suvorov.
  16. Iline
    Iline 16 February 2017 17: 22
    +2
    Lukashenka apparently thinks that the Iranians are just shipping oil. Such numbers as with Russia do not pass in the world. Money in the evening, chairs in the morning. Money in the morning, chairs in the evening. Sometimes it is not harmful to read the classics.
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 16 February 2017 18: 55
      +1
      Lukashenka apparently thinks that the Iranians are just shipping oil. Such numbers as with Russia do not pass in the world. Money in the evening, chairs in the morning. Money in the morning, chairs in the evening. Sometimes it is not harmful to read the classics.

      The Persians will take off their last pants. Russia has already faced this. Not the delivery of missile systems.
  17. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 16 February 2017 17: 28
    +4
    This is also a new form of political blackmail - there is no money for debts, but where will the money come from to buy Iranian oil? Will gas then be bought in Qatar?
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 16 February 2017 18: 05
      +1
      Will gas then be bought in Qatar?

      The Norwegians. All the same, the Lithuanian terminal for liquefied gas is not loaded. But the price is also attractive, 2 times more expensive than that of Russia.
  18. raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 16 February 2017 17: 34
    +4
    Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
    If you want to be respected, you have to make you afraid ... It seems to me that the other does not work ...
    The world is already different. Now times are coming: win-win (mutually beneficial cooperation).
  19. Sheridan
    Sheridan 16 February 2017 17: 35
    +1
    Nuihushimi: Am I a president too? It will already be decided by the population, if it wants and if the highest and wisest will allow it. The pause became grotesque.
  20. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 16 February 2017 17: 38
    +4
    Belarus has signed the first oil deal with Iran. This was announced on Thursday, February 16, by Reuters, citing sources.
    The state company "Belorusneft" has signed a contract for the purchase of 80 thousand tons of oil (about 600 thousand barrels) from the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC). The raw materials were purchased through a subsidiary of Belorusneft in Poland.

















    having such an ally and enemies are not needed. all of you to us for free rossiyantsy..and we give you a hell of an air force base and more konrabandu in the form of sanctions products. But bam wants to - and not sit down somewhere and eat an apple. thoughtful ally.
  21. marshes
    marshes 16 February 2017 17: 41
    +2
    Old man is a dreamer, he builds some clever schemes.
    At the same time, the news agency does not report on which route the oil from Iran will go to Belarus. One of the routes looks like this: oil will be delivered to Azerbaijan, from where through Georgia and the Black Sea - to the port of Odessa. Further - the railway route. An alternative delivery option is being considered - through Russian territory. But the second option, taking into account the obvious cooling in relations between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, looks doubtful.

    In general, it looks strange. Iran buys oil for the northern regions from Kazakhstan, taking into account that practically such a volume is exported abroad through the Persian Gulf. That is, from above, this is a "clever" transportation scheme. laughing I could have shortened the scheme, Aktau-Baku-Batumi-Odessa-Brody, or Kazakhstani oil through Russia.
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 16 February 2017 17: 57
      +3
      Any scheme you can think of. The main thing is the price of this oil.
      1. marshes
        marshes 16 February 2017 19: 45
        0
        Quote: Alex_Tug
        Any scheme you can think of. The main thing is the price of this oil.

        The price of oil is relative, although it is adjusted according to its value on the stock exchange. There is a common "fog" in that business. smile
    2. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 16 February 2017 19: 35
      +2
      on a cunning? ooo, there is always a cunning bolt.
      1. marshes
        marshes 16 February 2017 19: 51
        +1
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        on a cunning? ooo, there is always a cunning bolt.

        Daddy that goes bankrupt, the early ones are not a profitable contract for themselves, you need to be perspicacious, signed on the supply of gas and oil. While energy prices were high, I thought to weld. Under short-term contracts, it was necessary to work like in the whole world or invest in oil and gas production in other countries and not to arrange socialism in a single country, that is, in Belarus.
  22. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 February 2017 17: 45
    +2
    business is business, let them buy ...
  23. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 16 February 2017 17: 47
    0
    You need to look for yours
  24. Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 16 February 2017 17: 55
    +1
    An alternative delivery option is being considered - through Russian territory. But the second option, taking into account the obvious cooling in relations between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, looks doubtful.

    Why not. Russian Railways will make money. (If there are windows in the train schedule)
  25. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 February 2017 18: 04
    +2
    Quote: Ferdinant
    You need to look for yours

    Some have already been found - now they are dividing the corn and dividing the hogs! bully
  26. Monarchist
    Monarchist 16 February 2017 18: 16
    +1
    Quote: Spartanez300
    The freebie for the daddy was always sweeter, that he sat on his throne, almost starting to bullshit after him.

    So it’s necessary to explain to him that it’s not worth it to be bullied.
  27. domnich
    domnich 16 February 2017 18: 39
    +10
    Quote: lapsha
    And who does not live on debt now?


    It should be noted that it is the debtor countries that have joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation. The rest, oddly enough, do not have large debts. Probably "jumped off" ...

    Is RB going to enter the list of super-indebted countries? And what would that mean ???
  28. sgazeev
    sgazeev 16 February 2017 18: 45
    +1
    Skoko wassat this oil will cost for all routes you have to pay for transit. Well, the super accountant has already calculated that it is "not enough." drinks
  29. sgazeev
    sgazeev 16 February 2017 18: 49
    +1
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    Belarus has signed the first oil deal with Iran. This was announced on Thursday, February 16, by Reuters, citing sources.
    The state company "Belorusneft" has signed a contract for the purchase of 80 thousand tons of oil (about 600 thousand barrels) from the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC). The raw materials were purchased through a subsidiary of Belorusneft in Poland.

















    having such an ally and enemies are not needed. all of you to us for free rossiyantsy..and we give you a hell of an air force base and more konrabandu in the form of sanctions products. But bam wants to - and not sit down somewhere and eat an apple. thoughtful ally.

    The Yankees can give their mother and daughter a hand, all the same oil from Iran.
  30. sgazeev
    sgazeev 16 February 2017 18: 51
    +5
    Quote: Expelling Liberoids
    This is also a new form of political blackmail - there is no money for debts, but where will the money come from to buy Iranian oil? Will gas then be bought in Qatar?

  31. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 16 February 2017 19: 08
    +1
    Let them be lucky even through the North Pole. Through our territory do not let.
    I would also stop buying seafood from them. In the beginning, let them show where this mysterious “Belarusian Sea” is.
  32. Medium
    Medium 16 February 2017 19: 08
    +6
    It is strange that the information was taken as news by everyone. Last year, Lukashenko announced that he plans to increase the share of oil supplies not from Russia to 20% of the total supply of this type of fuel. More than a year ago, Belarus agreed with Iran to participate in the development of the Jofeir field, where Minsk expects to produce up to 40 thousand barrels of oil per day.
    Negotiations on energy cooperation with other countries have been held for a long time, among which Belarus considers Venezuela the most promising partner,
    Also, Belarus intends to cooperate in this area with Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. Moreover, in 2016 Belarus agreed with Kazakhstan on the transportation of this country's oil through the territory of Belarus and its partial processing at the country's refineries.
    Lithuania announced a proposal for joint oil transportation projects with Belarus in October 2016.
    Back in 2016, APEC considered that the economics of the project would be justified only in the case of oil supplies from Iran, although it would still be more expensive due to the need for further transportation by rail than via Druzhba. Oil from Venezuela, as APEC experts note, will be unprofitable to ship through Lithuania by sea due to the long distance between the points. To recoup these supplies, the raw materials must be cheaper than the market price.
    And suddenly such a surprise.
  33. Omsk
    Omsk 16 February 2017 19: 28
    +3
    somewhere the objectivity of the VO has disappeared completely.
    Here, no one bothered to consider the reasons for the cooling. It’s only Lukashenka who is blamed for it, and we have nothing to do with it ...
    1. KP8789
      KP8789 16 February 2017 21: 06
      +1
      They wonder why they don't buy Russian oil, it is cheaper. And no one wrote that Russia had cut oil supplies to Belarus. The refinery needs to be loaded with something, although the profit will be clearly lower.
  34. Charond
    Charond 16 February 2017 19: 36
    +1
    Even if he buys in Australia, they will not be able to steal and they will not give discounts there.
  35. Berkut24
    Berkut24 16 February 2017 19: 44
    +1
    As I understand it from the words of Old Man, that Iran, as a fraternal people, does not need to pay anything, and transport, customs and transshipment now cost nothing ... Profitability ??? No, you haven't heard!
  36. Moby_by
    Moby_by 16 February 2017 19: 48
    +2
    Quote: Medium
    Negotiations on energy cooperation with other countries have been held for a long time, among which Belarus considers Venezuela the most promising partner,

    Even in Canada !!!! dad Lukashenka received a plot for oil production, but in allied Russia, well, it just doesn't work. It is strange that oil will be delivered from Odessa by rail. Like the Venezuelan last time, it was transported by pipe from Odessa to Mozyr.
    1. marshes
      marshes 16 February 2017 20: 13
      +1
      Quote: Moby_by
      Even in Canada !!!! dad Lukashenka received a plot for oil production, but in allied Russia, well, it just doesn't work.

      And how much I invested in the development and production, transportation. It's not like making holes in the ground and pumping oil. It must be cleaned, if it is sulfurous, paraffinic. And this is a lot of money.
      Quote: Moby_by
      It is strange that oil will be delivered from Odessa by rail. Like the Venezuelan last time, it was transported by pipe from Odessa to Mozyr.

      Go and the volumes are busy. smile
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 16 February 2017 20: 20
      +1
      Quote: Moby_by
      Even in Canada !!!! dad Lukashenka received a plot for oil production, but in allied Russia, well, it just doesn't work.

      Before writing, at least read the official website of "Belarusneft", otherwise it just turns out nonsense.
      Since 2013, PO Belorusneft has been producing oil in the Russian Federation (Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug) and is represented by the oil and gas production company NK Yangpur OJSC.
      The assets of the enterprise include 6 deposits (work is underway on 5).
      The total volume of recoverable reserves of the enterprise is over 40 million tons, the annual production of oil and gas condensate is about 150 thousand tons of marketable product, natural gas is about 70 million cubic meters. m. The realized production potential of the enterprise, reduced to tons of oil equivalent (n. E.), is about 320 thousand tons of oil. e. in year.
      The development strategy of the company consists of two components:
      exploration of new resources;
      effective development of existing fields with the introduction of new production technologies.
      Applied technologies make it possible to determine the state of deposits, increase the efficiency of reservoir development and the level of production, and more accurately approach the selection of geological and technical measures. This makes it possible to increase their effectiveness and, as a result, save resources. OAO NK Yangpur is closely cooperating with BelNIPIneft, a branch research and design institute of Belorusneft.
      “Belorusneft” connects plans of work in the Russian Federation with the prospects of new acquisitions. From the official website of Belarusneft http://www.belorusneft.by/sitebeloil/ru/center/oi
      lGas /
      1. marshes
        marshes 16 February 2017 20: 31
        0
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        Since 2013, PO Belorusneft has been producing oil in the Russian Federation (Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug) and is represented by the oil and gas production company NK Yangpur OJSC.
        The assets of the enterprise include 6 deposits (work is underway on 5).

        Do not know how much they invested there? 10-20 lard of greenery? We have more than 60 lard in Kashagan and the production has just begun.
  37. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 February 2017 20: 18
    +1
    How not look route 2 is more or less the rest as it is absolutely pathetic.
    1. marshes
      marshes 16 February 2017 20: 28
      +1
      Quote: Incvizitor
      How not look route 2 is more or less the rest as it is absolutely pathetic.

      Through Makhachkala laughing There, again, Kazakhstani oil is present. laughing In our country, it is considered a "gray transit", semi-criminal. laughing
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 16 February 2017 22: 19
        0
        To the south, there is through Iraq and Syria, but I would not ...
        Georgia-Armenia-or Azerbaijan-somehow a lot of "intermediaries" are expensive
        All sorts of Romania-Bulgaria-Poland there is generally a dense forest
        + if idiocy through the outskirts
        1. marshes
          marshes 16 February 2017 22: 32
          0
          Quote: Incvizitor
          To the south, there is through Iraq and Syria, but I would not ...

          It is clear, not calm, but Iraqi oil gets to Turkey, "cards" confuse Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. Haliava.
          Quote: Incvizitor
          Georgia-Armenia-or Azerbaijan-somehow a lot of "intermediaries" are expensive

          Armenia can be excluded, there is the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, with a branch in Batumi, belongs to Kaz Munai Gaz. And also in Romania Constantia, the same under us as all oil refineries with oil pipelines. Roma Petroil.
          Quote: Incvizitor
          All sorts of Romania-Bulgaria-Poland there is generally a dense forest

          Yes, here on the other hand, it is more understandable.
          Quote: Incvizitor
          + if idiocy through the outskirts

          Business or anything personal. Ranie Ukraine was a big buyer of liquefied gas, propane-butane. Because of the excellent transit we have "cheekbones" from anger.
          Therefore, we are working on other alternative routes through China, they are happy, Iran and Pakistan. Soon there will be business through Afghanistan, the war will not even affect them.
          It is difficult to export hydrocarbons through you, Ukraine with gas transit comes to mind.
  38. Mentat
    Mentat 16 February 2017 20: 40
    +2
    Another episode of "Izaura's Slaves"? Hot South American passions, mingled with suffering over oil, performed by a mustachioed collective farm chairman, will probably look colorful. Mixing of styles, eclecticism of bulba and chili, dialectic of fuels and lubricants. The main thing is that the mutability of being does not go too far as a result of petrochemical processes that too stimulate the consciousness of our protagonist.
  39. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 16 February 2017 20: 50
    +2
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    But MTZ is pooping at Lukashenka's, and he also spits at us for that .... Foo bl. got enough ...

    And nothing, that in the Belarusian MTZ, as well as in MAZ, up to 60% of the components made in Russia? Or has someone lost the memory of the fact that Belarus was called the assembly shop of the Union even during the Soviet era? What if a combine plant was closed in Ryazan, then Lidselmash should be closed in Belarus? Or maybe stop Naftan or the Mozyr Oil Refinery? Well, let's try and what then will the nearby regions of Russia say about the lack of fuel at gas stations?
    She's like children ... fool
    1. marshes
      marshes 16 February 2017 20: 56
      0
      Quote: SMikhalych
      What if a combine plant was closed in Ryazan, then Lidselmash should be closed in Belarus?

      In Kazakhstan, large grain producers prefer John Deere and Caterpillar processing equipment, and they also have their own agricultural aviation.
    2. KP8789
      KP8789 16 February 2017 21: 19
      +3
      SMikhalych
      And nothing, that in the Belarusian MTZ, as well as in MAZ, up to 60% of the components made in Russia? Or has someone lost the memory of the fact that Belarus was called the assembly shop of the Union even during the Soviet era? What if a combine plant was closed in Ryazan, then Lidselmash should be closed in Belarus? Or maybe stop Naftan or the Mozyr Oil Refinery? Well, let's try and what then will the nearby regions of Russia say about the lack of fuel at gas stations?
      She's like children ...

      I have already written about this many times. Do not understand. The Belarusian enterprises will stop, and the Russian subcontractors will also get it. Metal, motors, electrical products and much more are supplied from Russia. They will shout hooray until effective managers are thrown out into the street.
      1. Franciscan
        Franciscan 16 February 2017 23: 55
        0
        They seem to forget that much of what is purchased in Russia can be produced here. Where then will the Russian factories go their products and workers. they are apparently not interested.
  40. proud
    proud 16 February 2017 20: 53
    +1
    Greed has ruined Fraer!
  41. Holoy
    Holoy 16 February 2017 21: 08
    +3
    I have said for a long time that one should trade with everyone only at world prices. Then friends will appear! And Freebies will never be friends of Russia!
  42. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 16 February 2017 21: 17
    +1
    oil is better to take in Iran, and coal in South Africa. squarely
  43. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 16 February 2017 21: 18
    +1
    Attention is drawn to the fact that the state-owned company RB "Belorusneft" entered into an agreement with the Iranian supplier through its Polish representative office.

    How does this fact draw attention to itself? If the nearest representative office is in Poland, why go to Iran itself? So, what is remarkable about this fact?
    A third option is also reported - the delivery of oil through the Latvian port of Ventspils, but how long Iranian oil will reach Ventspils is a separate issue.

    And then what is interesting about this "separate question"? How has oil been supplied to Germany from the Persian Gulf so far? By tankers through Suez. Add one more day to Ventspils.
    What else did Lukashenka do wrong? Here he is, such a bastard, profiting from Russian oil. His face was poked into the table. It seems to have changed his mind. What's wrong now?
    1. estidea
      estidea 17 February 2017 22: 11
      0
      through Suez to Germany and a day to Ventspils?)) Are you kidding? Lukashenka is guilty of trading duty-free oil, de facto stealing. In addition, Lukashenka does not fulfill his obligations to supply oil products to the Russian market.
      As for oil from Iran, let's imagine that they are dumping and selling oil to Lukashenka much cheaper ... only in this case it will be more profitable than Russian oil. The memory is still fresh with Venezuelan oil, which cost more than $ 900, against 450 Russian.
      1. Vladimir Postnikov
        Vladimir Postnikov 18 February 2017 00: 44
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        Quote: estidea
        through Suez to Germany and a day to Ventspils?)) Are you kidding?

        No, I wasn’t joking. It was about timing. Do you have any objections?
        Quote: estidea
        Lukashenka is guilty of selling duty-free oil, de facto stealing. In addition, Lukashenka does not fulfill his obligations to supply oil products to the Russian market.

        I have not heard that he was trading Russian oil. If it was, it was a very long time ago. Has not traded for a long time. Belarus sells oil products, and if my memory serves me, if these products are sold abroad, he must pay a certain share of Russia.
        Please note that I try not to operate with false information. If in doubt, then either say that I doubt it, or nothing.
        As for the fact that Russian oil will be cheaper for Belarus. I believe that this is exactly the case. Belarus is located very uncomfortably. Additional transshipment from countries that are unfriendly to her.
        As for relations with Russia, I frankly do not like them. I cannot call them friendly. The reason is largely in the Kremlin. Effective managers, led by Putin, who believe that everything is for sale in this world and everything has a price. Maybe so, but I don't like it. Consider this my whim.
        1. estidea
          estidea 18 February 2017 07: 20
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          As for Suez, I take it as a joke, because I used the service for calculating the passage of cargo from Suez to Ventspils, it turned out to be seven days.
          Last year there was another scandal with "solvents" and do not forget about the accusations of insufficient delivery of fuel to the Russian market.
          Relations are built by both sides, and it cannot be said that it was Russia that built them the way they are. So there is no need to blame the "effective" and even more so Putin. By the way, it was Putin who, when he came to power, tried to help the Belarusians change Lukashenka, who committed the state. coup in 1996. However, he could not vote instead of Belarusians. The rest can be negotiated, and not hysterically blackmailing.
          zs to say that Belarus is "inconvenient" is simply ugly. The fact that Belarus cannot earn money so as not to live in debt, given the preferences that Russia gives, simply shows what flow of unaccounted money goes through the "presidential fund", bypassing the budget.
          1. Vladimir Postnikov
            Vladimir Postnikov 18 February 2017 14: 28
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            Quote: estidea
            As for Suez, I take it as a joke, because I used the service for calculating the passage of cargo from Suez to Ventspils, it turned out to be seven days.

            What is the essence of the joke, if not a secret? Germany is still joking with the supply of oil from the Persian Gulf along this route.
            Quote: estidea
            By the way, it was Putin who, when he came to power, tried to help the Belarusians change Lukashenka, who committed the state. coup in 1996.

            Who do you work for? If so, then it should not be mentioned if you are for Putin.
            If you are working against Putin, then this is a very delicate job.
            Quote: estidea
            Belarus is located "inconveniently" - just ugly. The fact that Belarus cannot earn money so as not to live in debt, with the preferences that Russia gives, simply shows what flow of unaccounted money goes through the "presidential fund", bypassing the budget.
            Everything in one heap. Belarus is landlocked, which means another transshipment of oil. Yes, this is a big inconvenience. Belarus does not have gratuitous mineral deposits and it has to earn money by processing them. Yes, this does not give the profits that free oil gives, but it also protects the social structure of society from the disease "Dutch disease". But about "through the" presidential fund ", bypassing the budget" - you are in vain! Lukashenko is under the hood of both the West and the Kremlin. What I can’t say about Putin. If something is postponed for a "rainy day", then in Belarus. In any other place, both the White House and the Kremlin would have long ago laid their hands on it. So you shouldn't! Lukashenka is forced to be a patriot, even if he himself does not really want to.
            1. - = ANTRAX = -
              - = ANTRAX = - 21 March 2017 11: 03
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              oil is not free. it is sought, mined, processed, transported. your understanding is at the level of 10 years.
  44. PatriotRU
    PatriotRU 16 February 2017 21: 48
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    My poor fellow citizens, like little children, are being led into propaganda! Wake up, stop believing everything on TV and what the Power says, have your head on your shoulders! They are our brothers, and everything else is a showdown of politicians!
  45. Lex.
    Lex. 16 February 2017 22: 41
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    Russia has a visa-free regime with more than a hundred countries. Of the entire CIS, visas are required only for citizens of Turkmenistan and Georgia. Even with Ukraine, there is still visa-free travel. Against this background, introducing visas for Belarusians would look almost like a declaration of war.
    1. - = ANTRAX = -
      - = ANTRAX = - 21 March 2017 11: 05
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      visas were introduced for those who have a visa regime with the Russian Federation and these citizens could get through the Republic of Belarus. not for Belarusians visas, got it? The tyrant just drifted off somewhere into the steppe, as usual.
  46. Swed
    Swed 16 February 2017 23: 09
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    Al Grig Luk expects to conclude a contract with Iran for the supply of oil, and in half a year unilaterally establish his own fair price for Iranian oil. In a year he will be looking for a new partner.
  47. - = ANTRAX = -
    - = ANTRAX = - 17 February 2017 08: 53
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    tyrant, like our lesser non-brothers, is not looking for easy ways. Of course, they are all independent there and have the right to act as they see fit, but for these decisions they bear their own responsibility. including debt.
    1. Salad
      Salad 17 February 2017 09: 20
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      of course they are all independent there and have the right to do as they see fit

      just like one Russian region that shows how you can avoid paying debts for energy and at the same time require investments.
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 17 February 2017 10: 12
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        This is the main difference. Russian regions have the moral right to demand money from the Russian government. And non-Russian regions do not have such a moral right.
  48. sancho16
    sancho16 17 February 2017 11: 09
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    Vasya_Piterskiy Yesterday, 16:54 New
    It would seem that Belarusians are our friends and brothers ... But here again and again we are convinced that there are no friends, brothers, or godfathers in politics ... If you want to be respected, you must make you afraid ... It seems to me that something else does not work ...

    And you from your friend or brother, take a house or a piece of bread, extort property from him,
    propping up his gate with a log?
    And Putin is the only way to deal with Belarus and everything is bad for him, only he is a deity.
    If I'm wrong, then why, with such unlimited resources, is Russia in such a deep ... OPE?
    And the gap is not visible in it.
    1. estidea
      estidea 17 February 2017 21: 56
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      can grab whine? Lukashenka is acting stupidly. Why drive oil from Iran? Let him buy a Russian one and pay the necessary customs fees, but he will honestly sell products abroad. Is it really more profitable to buy oil more expensive than Russian oil, and then think about what to do with it? This would be a much more convenient negotiating position than just another handout. In the end, if everything is not so profitable, then it is necessary to leave the EAEU ...
  49. vvp2412
    vvp2412 17 February 2017 11: 15
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    We know one country 404, which launched a very "profitable" freight train across several seas and countries! :) Didn't hear - did he come back ?!
    And yes? Old Man is also going to bargain with the Persians - your price is too high! we will not pay for it! We will pay at a price that we ourselves consider fair! Those. about 2 times lower! For us, Belarusians, the price should be the same as for you, Persians! After all, the fact that you get it is your problem! We need to live well for free!
  50. neoshef
    neoshef 17 February 2017 14: 28
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    Very good, let them count and cry. It's time to live within your means, as they say, to leave the greenhouse.