Separatist scandal in Kiev

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Separatist scandal in Kiev


Separatist scandal. In Kiev. Yes, and in one of the prestigious educational institutions of the city. It sounds crazy, but nonetheless, it is a fact. Like the fact that in fact the scandal will conduct an inspection of the SBU.



So, Kiev's Slavic gymnasium found itself in the center of a scandal with accusations of "mass domestic separatism." Why would you think? Because of the refusal to help the participants of the ATO.



It all started with the fact that in the parent chat of one of the classes in Viber, another message appeared on the topic: "Dear parents! If there is an opportunity to provide assistance to our ATO soldiers, then tomorrow should be brought (followed by the list). The volunteer car leaves tomorrow."



But one of the parents by the name of Svetlana, in response, posted in the group a photograph of a monument in Donetsk to the children who died in the Donbas - Alley of Angels.



Here, a volunteer Tatyana Popova appeared on the arena, which, in fact, was the organizer of the gathering.



She was naturally outraged by the posted photo. And Popova asked quite a normal one from her point of view, the question: “I didn’t quite understand what the last picture was after the request to provide assistance to the ATO to our defenders”.

The answer was, on the one hand, simple, and on the other, it gave rise to the expected Internet ... well, you understood that.

“This is a photofact. On the monument are the names of the murdered Ukrainian children. And there is nothing more to say, ”answered Svetlana. “I, in my turn, didn’t understand much, Tatyana, about which“ defenders ”we are talking about, because my compatriots in the Donbas have never threatened me and my homeland.”

Naturally, Svetlana was immediately labeled "separatist." After that, the Kiev resident moved from Ukrainian to Russian and wrote the following:

“The government will change three hundred times, it has been repeatedly in our land. Of course, I would prefer that children and me not be dragged into dubious initiatives, which will inevitably receive an adequate legal assessment. And also my children. It seems that they quite successfully cope with the curriculum, and crippling their souls with what is happening now is forcing them to draw pictures of atoshniki and collect alms for them ... this is completely unacceptable.

For me, no Ukrainian, either from the Donbass or from Lviv, will become an enemy, no matter what is told on TV. By the way, and Russian too. I also teach children. And the best that the authorities can do for those who send the same Ukrainians to kill is to arrange a rehabilitation, primarily a psychological one.

I am truly sorry for all the hostages of this situation. ”

Vadim, Svetlana's husband, also did not stand aside.

"No one dares to force my child to write letters to people in the army who iron the peaceful population of Donbass."

These are the Kievans ...

Other parents tried to hush up the scandal, asked to communicate only on topics relating to children. As a result, the administrator removed both Svetlana and Popova from the group, but as it turned out, everything had just begun.

Quietly and without screaming, having familiarized themselves with what Popova wrote, almost all parents ... refused to help the Ukrainian military. Specifically, only 2 from 32 families brought help ...

Having flown into Mars orbit from Popov's outrage, she posted a correspondence in her Facebook.

"I was upset that people with such views were defiant.
... I was caught up with those separatists in fact because they removed both her and me from the group. "

And Popova rushed to find the truth ... in the SBU. True, warning the school about his statement.

"The school management is aware of the application to the Security Service of Ukraine, and I asked those parents to warn them so that they would not be surprised if people from the authorities wanted to communicate with them. I cannot react to this."

At school, according to Popova, she was assured of the pro-Ukrainian position of the educational institution.

"They understand my indignation. We agreed that at the nearest parental meetings, not only in our class, but in all, there will be a conversation about patriotic education, and the school will declare its patriotic position to all parents."

But what amazed or outraged Popov most of all was the fact that not one of the families that refused to apply for attorneys was immigrants from Donbass. For some reason, after a while, Popova’s record was removed.

Popov was supported by the famous host of the Fifth Channel, Vitaly Gaidukevich. He called what happened in the gymnasium in the "third year of the war" mass household separatism. He wrote a lot, but ... then he deleted it too. However, this is the Internet, and not everything written can be permanently erased. This is not a monument to you.



"This is a complete failure of the humanitarian policy and information as well. And then someone ponders whether large-scale Ukrainization is needed? Do you need ideological dictates in the Ukrainian Armed Forces? Well, well ... If the spread of this hell will help the hidden rot of the scoop at our side, then ... We can't be passive. "

Here's a story. These are the people of Kiev. And if you carefully follow what people write in social networks in general, then you begin to understand that even those who rode, little by little begin to see clearly. And it is encouraging. Well, who was not a zombie, he remained a man. But people are not always comfortable living in Ukraine.
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  1. +10
    15 February 2017 15: 07
    What other help do people themselves somehow survive on African salaries.
    1. +5
      15 February 2017 15: 20
      It is necessary for all sections of the "ATO", and soon all citizens of Ukraine will have to give out a "pill" from fear because fear is unknown to idiots. wink
      1. +1
        17 February 2017 15: 12
        Quote: Appraiser
        It is necessary for all sections of the "ATO", and soon all citizens of Ukraine will have to give out a "pill" from fear because fear is unknown to idiots. wink

        They are already given, but not tablets, but a liquid that lasts for 10 days and they call it "living water". A drug that neutralizes the will and the feeling of pain, even the WOUNDED get up and continue to go into battle. That is why a rotation of 10 days was prescribed.
    2. 0
      16 February 2017 11: 19
      Quote: kouldoom
      What other help do people themselves somehow survive on African salaries.

      Well, do not write nonsense. Salaries in Ukraine are not much less than Russian. The problem is not salaries, the problem is a multiple increase in utility bills.
      1. +3
        16 February 2017 12: 58
        With the difference that the equivalent of a payment of 5-8 thousand rubles is received by 80% of the population, and we have 10% in the most bearish corners. For example, in Kiev, the normal salary is 4000 hryvnias for a teacher, and in the Moscow and St. Petersburg region there are no such salaries. And these agglomerations have a total population of 30 ml. man, which is almost equal to today's Ukraine.
  2. +10
    15 February 2017 15: 26
    give Mrs. priest food. Now, if the war is over, volunteers die of hunger, then it’s not a hunt to work wassat
    1. +18
      15 February 2017 15: 54
      give Mrs. Popov food
      Well yes, swollen from malnutrition
      Respect and respect for sane Ukrainians and Russian Kievans, who are aware of the responsibility for what is happening.
  3. +23
    15 February 2017 15: 27
    The people of Kiev in their mass never jumped. A militant farm arrived.
    1. +14
      15 February 2017 19: 45
      Quote: gorgo
      The bulk of the people of Kiev never jumped

      Do not be fooled. And they jumped (even old grandmas, very eternally, by the way) and wore food, etc.
      1. +5
        16 February 2017 08: 28
        I don’t need to deceive myself, I saw it. And crowds of protesters pacing in the midst of events in the center of Kiev and chanting "Kiev, get up!" only argued that Kiev did not want to get up. And I don’t take into account those “Kievans” who came in the last ten years.
    2. +16
      15 February 2017 20: 29
      Quote: gorgo
      The people of Kiev in their mass never jumped.

      Galloped, and how!
      “When the Nazis came for the communists, I was silent, I'm not a communist.
      Then they came for the Social Democrats, I was silent, but I am not a Social Democrat.
      Then they came for union leaders, I was silent, I'm not a union member.
      Then they came for the Jews, I was silent, I'm not a Jew.
      And then they came for me, and there was no one who could protest. ” (Martin Nimeller)
    3. +4
      15 February 2017 22: 11
      The cousin of Kiev’s cousin of pennies on the Maidan has sprinkled. Made repairs in the kitchen. Yes, and fed there every day. And he says do not believe the media of the Russian Federation, they lie. On the Maidan, simple lads want changes for the better. There is no work. And now says 10 years should pass then it will become better.
      1. +3
        16 February 2017 08: 26
        Living in Kiev and being a Kievite are two big differences. The percentage of jumping among the indigenous people of Kiev is very small.
        1. +3
          16 February 2017 11: 06
          Quote: gorgo
          Living in Kiev and being a Kievite are two big differences. The percentage of jumping among the indigenous people of Kiev is very small.

          The differences may be big, but there is only one result - the junta in power, the country has turned into ukrozopiya, a madhouse at every turn.
          Just as the indigenous people of Kiev did not pick up during the coup, so now languages ​​are in an intimate dark place.
          1. 0
            19 February 2017 12: 51
            Now they are talking about 3 Maidan ... what 3, there were already about a dozen of them, for example, the so-called tax one. the only one, by the way, when the President and PM came to the protesters. and what, much is heard about him? Maidan Maidan strife. the Maidan can and can be easily dispersed, but the coup, especially when it is being prepared by a superpower with vast experience of coups around the world ... what did the Kievites have to pick out there? Yes, and as if not picking? were picking! but no chance ...
        2. +5
          16 February 2017 15: 10
          There are also stubborn ones, you will not prove anything to them. They live here, but they know better than you how everything was in Kiev. They are sure (more precisely, they are trying to impress everyone) that if something like this happened for us, they would immediately go out into the street, lay down on the embrasure with their breasts and immediately defeated the entire junta. Yeah.
      2. 0
        17 February 2017 15: 19
        Quote: huntsman650
        The cousin of Kiev’s cousin of pennies on the Maidan has sprinkled. Made repairs in the kitchen. Yes, and fed there every day. And he says do not believe the media of the Russian Federation, they lie. On the Maidan, simple lads want changes for the better. There is no work. And now says 10 years should pass then it will become better.

        I recommend: “We met the Germans: uneducated, half-starved, many of us - angry at the Soviet regime. They expected that life under Hitler would be satisfying and not difficult. ” This is a quote from the book of the Kiev citizen Anatoly Kuznetsov "Babi Yar"
    4. +2
      16 February 2017 22: 26
      But do not lie: the people of Kiev started, just then the rest began to pull themselves up.
  4. +12
    15 February 2017 15: 37
    but I'm not surprised. there are a lot of normal, adequate UKRAINIANS! hi
    1. +2
      15 February 2017 17: 07
      few. Fear!
  5. +13
    15 February 2017 15: 43
    I understand the position, I approve, but writing something and explaining it to the idiot is a waste of time and nerves. In this case, it is also life-threatening for the household. We should follow the tactics of quiet sabotage, there’s nothing to help, and then arrange a dark activist , in the best traditions of partisans.
  6. +11
    15 February 2017 15: 56
    "household separatists" actually almost the whole country.
    It is not clear why surprise readers about isolated cases :?
    There is no black and white world, everything is colored.
    However, articles and views like - Ukrainians are all Bandera, and the population of Some areas is bad, Russia is bad - they will be printed on both sides of the border for a long time.
    And in between, bus tours to Bogomolye in Murom will be hanging in bold. A trip to Russia, a tour to St. Petersburg, Moscow, cheap calls to Russia and more.
  7. +7
    15 February 2017 15: 56
    In the meantime, Chechnya’s prosecutor’s office has opened a criminal case against Ilya Maddison over a joke about the Koran. And on people who threatened to kill him, no cases were brought. Do not you gentlemen think that about the same situation is happening here? It also surprises me that some commentators who just recently called the Ukrainians Kaklamy, Khokhlov, etc. They became fluffy and cute in an instant.
    1. +5
      15 February 2017 16: 34
      Too much negativity is pouring-tired, here we are positive-rejoicing.
      1. +4
        15 February 2017 16: 39
        Is it good for you that chaos is happening in fraternal Ukraine?
        1. +1
          15 February 2017 16: 54
          What clothes did not collect, mayhem?
          1. +1
            15 February 2017 16: 59
            I mean, one part of the population is ideologically opposed to another, due to external factors
            1. +10
              15 February 2017 19: 37
              When "one part of the population is ideologically opposed to another," it is a classic civil war. Regardless of the "factors."
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          1. 0
            15 February 2017 20: 45
            Well, if you look like this, history does not like the subjunctive mood. At such a pace, Mongolia may require us to pay tribute, since when we paid them.
            1. 0
              17 February 2017 23: 11
              This is when you paid tribute to the Mongols?
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  8. +2
    15 February 2017 16: 37
    Separatist scandal. In Kiev. Yes, and in one of the prestigious educational institutions of the city. Sounds wildlybut nonetheless, it is a fact.

    What exactly is wild for the author?
  9. +3
    15 February 2017 16: 38
    damn, I heard about cirrhosis of the liver ... but about cirrhosis of the brain !!!!!
  10. +7
    15 February 2017 17: 01
    Quote: PatriotRU
    Is it good for you that chaos is happening in fraternal Ukraine?


    Not at all, I was there, I lived there, I loved there ... and when the Maidani began, some with whom I talked removed me from friends in VK. Others, whom I consider adequate, remained and said that they did not like what was happening there but what they did not know. There were still others who sincerely believed that removing Yanyka would heal normally. Now, an understanding comes slowly that the media from the Russian Federation did not always lie, and that it was not Russia that wanted Ukraine to reach the bottom. Well, to those who were zealously in favor of Banderlog, my attitude will not change anymore, not these Russians are Ukrainians, but some rather anti. What they think and live incomprehensibly, the ideas in their head are alien to me and I don’t want to know them.
  11. +3
    15 February 2017 17: 09
    Quote: PatriotRU
    In the meantime, Chechnya’s prosecutor’s office has opened a criminal case against Ilya Maddison over a joke about the Koran. And on people who threatened to kill him, no cases were brought. Do not you gentlemen think that about the same situation is happening here? It also surprises me that some commentators who just recently called the Ukrainians Kaklamy, Khokhlov, etc. They became fluffy and cute in an instant.

    He invented and believed himself? Kaklamy and dill, we call kaklov and dill maydanutsy for the whole head !!!
    And Ukrainians, Ukrainians and Ukrainians! As always. Do not confuse
    1. +6
      15 February 2017 20: 21
      Quote: Thompson
      Kaklamy and dill, we call kaklov and dill maydanutsy for the whole head !!!
      And Ukrainians, Ukrainians and Ukrainians! As always. Do not confuse

      unsuccessful explanation.
      Ukrainians also have an explanation about cotton wool, and “Russians” —and they also distinguish specific from all Russians in their opinion.
      As a rule, those who disagree are all endowed with citizenship (depending on the view), a liberal grant, and a job in Washington.
      Well, the expression, they are all there Bandera, almost everything, everything is already, always everything.
      As usual, we aim at the objectionable to us, we hit everyone, the return volley mows all communications. Something like this.
      1. +2
        16 February 2017 02: 44
        In the meantime, they are all objectionable to us. Even the one who is against the current malignant government, but keeps quiet in a rag, hoping for dividends from the EU (and suddenly empty). I am convinced that each of them went over about the Russian world and none of them will stand up for this fundamental concept on our lands, the margin is not enough. But this (the Russian world) is the only thing that can prevent any armed conflict between us, even if we live in separate countries. But they are waiting for the "brother" of a "natural denouement" no matter what happens, in order to finally change the shoes. These are you, either gay Europe, or gay Slavs.
        1. +2
          16 February 2017 09: 12
          Quote: znavel
          In the meantime, they are all objectionable to us.

          Not a nif ... wow! "Displeasing to us" ... Well, excuse me, Your Majesty, but I think no one is going to adjust to the scale of YOUR SCALE. Yes, and your "fi" is unlikely to be interesting to anyone.
          1. 0
            18 February 2017 03: 42
            Forgive me, serf. You can further clean the cauldrons in the kitchen. And it’s not worth adapting to my figure; I’m not interested in men))))
            1. 0
              18 February 2017 17: 38
              Everyone thinks to the extent of his licentiousness. I’m talking about the insignificance of the scale of your figure, even within the framework of the site. Sexual minorities seem to be there. Grandfather Freud was right (100% towards you). This happens with high self-esteem. I understand, I understand that this is the norm in the upper layers of society. I feel sorry for you Your Majesty, but I believe in natural selection. Such as you, thank God, do not naturally reproduce.
              1. 0
                18 February 2017 20: 47
                Heightened self-esteem? You there do not interfere with your pharmacy with a swill, the liver will thank the thread once)))). Himself raised me in Majesty, and now he complains, essentially a stupid serf)))). And as you know, to everyone who believes in natural selection there is no God, how do these concepts fit in your head, a little child or a fall into childhood?)) And since your reasoning is a complete absence of cause and effect relationships, seriously trying to get up just as if - not perceived)).
                From myself, I’ll just add on the topic what was in my first comment- the fourth year the dill population does not even try to shift the evil water, that means they are expecting profits from it or s. . You can argue, if you reward me with a high-ranking title again?))
    2. +2
      16 February 2017 08: 25
      go to the next branch, there Ukrainians, regardless of age and nationality. Khokhlami and Kaklam are called, they consider people not to be. I consider them no matter what I consider our brothers.
      1. +1
        17 February 2017 13: 40
        Quote: PatriotRU
        I consider them no matter what I consider our brothers.


        At your own expense - please. And all of our call - sorry.

        And a few years ago, on another forum, there was a terrific explanation from one Ukrainian (close to the text): Ukrainians have been pretending to Russians for 300 years that they are brothers, and when the Russians finally believed this, the Ukrainians no longer needed it.
        This is ukrobratstvo.
        Isn’t it easier to remember that "by the mother of EVE", all people are brothers.
  12. +5
    15 February 2017 17: 53
    (These are the people of Kiev.)

    Yes, they are these people of Kiev. Here just another Kiev resident (a fluent scound from Russia with a nasty last name Gandonopolsky) burst out in the address of Zakhar Prilepin regarding his entry into the DPR army:

    I am ashamed of such a FORMER "compatriot" and curse. negative
  13. +5
    15 February 2017 18: 00
    Not all of them are in Tseevrop.
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  14. +6
    15 February 2017 18: 28
    Vadim and Svetlana - real people. Humans are not Ukrainians — which is not less insulting, not Russians, but just people who care about their children. We bow low to you. Respectfully.
  15. +2
    15 February 2017 19: 22
    Who is seeing? Deb ...? Not. They realized that it was difficult to live and donate money to kill the children of Donbass. Not a bit believe in their insight. They spat on history, on the fact that they were living on Russian soil, where there was nothing Khokhlyatsky except for them. In addition to their invented language, which is recognized by the UN as the funniest in the world. They cannot be cured of this idiocy!
  16. +4
    15 February 2017 19: 37
    There were adequate people there too. So, in general, is propaganda not working through and through? Not at all.
    Some are recklessly bold even in the third year. Is it possible in a country where they can beat for the St. George ribbon, write this? They write denunciations (for now), or they can drop a bottle of gasoline am to the apartment. People LOST human appearance.
  17. +3
    15 February 2017 19: 49
    And Popova rushed to find the truth ... in the SBU. True, warning the school about his statement.
    "The school management is aware of the application to the Security Service of Ukraine, and I asked those parents to warn them so that they would not be surprised if people from the authorities wanted to communicate with them. I cannot react to this."
    -------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------
    That's where the whistle-blowing blooms!
    It was not just that Stalin uttered a resolution on Khrushchev’s report: "Get down ,."
    Ah yes moder! Classics on quotes.
    1. +6
      15 February 2017 21: 19
      That's where the whistle-blowing blooms!

      such is life, we will come to Ukraine, she will write denunciations to the FSB on the Euro-Maidan.
  18. +13
    15 February 2017 20: 58
    An extremely balanced position with a citizen who refused a beating. Wow, it’s straight and I can’t believe it. Because the majority of Ukrainians, aware of the current situation, regret that their wet dreams of visa-free travel, euro salaries and Muscovites in the form of slaves did not materialize. Someone had simpler and less aggressive dreams, but they sank into oblivion, it seems .... And here, right, the civic position is expressed. Respect to a brave woman.
  19. +1
    15 February 2017 21: 21
    Degenerates said here,
    That the people of Kiev are separatists.

    But if Kiev is separate,
    That city where then Hohlatsky?
  20. 0
    15 February 2017 21: 53
    However, Ukraine didn’t die ...!?
  21. 0
    16 February 2017 06: 30
    Well, if this is true, then honor and praise be given to those who can withstand dill propaganda and the pressure of the "volunteers."
  22. +4
    16 February 2017 09: 09
    Well, who still does not understand why the Armed Forces of Ukraine haven’t turned their weapons against Kiev? If they run to knock at the SBU for an oblique look, they declare them to be “separatists” with all the consequences. What will happen to families whose authorities are such “activists” like Popova (by the way, has never a Ukrainian surname) been held hostage?
  23. +2
    16 February 2017 09: 55
    But for the time being people in Ukraine are not always comfortable. ,,
    here I would say PEOPLE with a capital letter. with the complete idiocy of what is happening, MANY people clearly understand what is happening.
  24. 0
    16 February 2017 10: 53
    When all of Ukraine does so, the ATO will cease. When the ATO stops, both sides will be heard and it will be possible to agree on how to proceed.
  25. +1
    16 February 2017 11: 44
    Normal Ukrainians now live among the Svidomo dill that occupied them. But, apparently, just the normal Ukrainians are the vast majority. And this majority will crush their own invaders. I would like this to happen during the lifetime of this generation.
  26. 0
    16 February 2017 21: 47
    Quote: Catherine II
    Quote: Thompson
    Kaklamy and dill, we call kaklov and dill maydanutsy for the whole head !!!
    And Ukrainians, Ukrainians and Ukrainians! As always. Do not confuse

    unsuccessful explanation.
    Ukrainians also have an explanation about cotton wool, and “Russians” —and they also distinguish specific from all Russians in their opinion.
    As a rule, those who disagree are all endowed with citizenship (depending on the view), a liberal grant, and a job in Washington.
    Well, the expression, they are all there Bandera, almost everything, everything is already, always everything.
    As usual, we aim at the objectionable to us, we hit everyone, the return volley mows all communications. Something like this.

    Not quite right. Of course we have muddy-headed ones. Not without it.
    But! - the main part quite clearly understands that especially dill dill sit in the networks, which simply troll under different nicknames .. And even there are not so many of them if you look closely.
    And the main part of Ukrainians are adequate, just to be afraid even here, in the internet, to shine! In some ways you can understand them, of course, but obviously we have already sat out, and to build their bright future for them ... thanks, already ate !!! Yourself! Yourself!
  27. +3
    17 February 2017 10: 41
    Yes .... sorry for the parents of the children. You never know when you will run into an initiative snitch-provocateur.

    But in fact, everything is simple: the organizer serves himself before the regime in order to receive personal gain (for example, a position). He is not at all interested in what they think about the views of those at the expense of whom he is going to receive this benefit: “If they don’t take it, turn off the gas.” (Call where it should) Does it remind you of nothing? The same model was run in 1937 ...

    Stepping over their heads, such creatures ruin people's lives, so that they are afraid and exalted, if only to get rid of it.
  28. +3
    17 February 2017 17: 32
    Thank God, we, in the Crimea, got rid of the insane asylum called Ukraine. I saw a banner in Sevastopol: "We are back. What's next? Yes, even stones from heaven, WE ARE IN RUSSIA!" It is difficult, not without problems, but there is confidence in the future improvement. In Ukraine, hopelessness and sheer nonsense. Thank God, we broke out of the gross embrace of the Bandera monster.
  29. 0
    17 February 2017 20: 31
    In general, the state (any) must provide its army on its own, for this part of the tax is used, and not begging. Moreover, the ATO is declared. And there are enough stubborn types of patriots, volunteering is certainly a good idea, but I think a lot of volunteers make money on it. And if they such patriots as they write, they should first of all slaughter the authorities about providing the army and not squabble. Although, of course, Svidomo racers will deal with this issue easier than dealing with sawing dough in law enforcement agencies. And about the ATO, it’s a civil war bell, good a spark and there will be an explosion like in the SAR for example.
  30. +2
    18 February 2017 14: 34
    I admire the courage of people who were not afraid to express their point of view, and defending it, despite its "unpopularity" among the patriots. But they have a child studying there, and through the child of any parent you can "bend".
  31. 0
    20 February 2017 23: 38
    No one has received sight. Of 32 parents, 2 horses, 1 separatist, and the rest of the hut is on the edge. Especially if you need something to share with someone. Standard position.