Lukashenko is going to withdraw Belarus from the EAEU and the CSTO

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The Regnum news agency reports that the President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, is considering the possibility of Belarus withdrawing from the Eurasian Economic Union and the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Belarusian official sources do not confirm such information at the moment.

Lukashenko is going to withdraw Belarus from the EAEU and the CSTO




Recall that the cooling of relations between Minsk and Moscow occurred after Belarus unilaterally switched to paying for hydrocarbons supplied from the Russian Federation, not at a contract price, but at a price that Minsk itself determined. As soon as Moscow declared to Minsk about the need to move away from such practices, the Belarusian authorities set out a position on the possibility of a sharp increase in transit duties for pumping Russian oil to Europe. As a result, after lengthy negotiations, a certain consensus was achieved by the parties, but the conflict was not fully settled.

Moscow decided to reduce the volume of oil supplies to Belarus at preferential prices, motivating it by the fact that the volumes purchased by Minsk clearly exceed the needs of the Republic of Belarus in “black gold”. On the eve, the Belarusian media published a statement that oil “exists in Belarus itself, and it can last for 35 years, that's just hydrocarbon production, as well as Belarusian gold and diamonds (and they also exist ...) is not profitable yet” .

In the agency Regnum it is reported that if Minsk really intends to make a decision on leaving the EEU and the CSTO, then Moscow is not going to object. At the same time, it is said that it is unlikely that the demarche of Minsk (if such is really planned) takes into account the interests of the people of Belarus.
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  1. +69
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    the production of hydrocarbons, as well as Belarusian gold and diamonds (and they also exist ...) is still unprofitable

    While there are enough shrimps and lobsters from the Belarusian sea.
    1. Caa
      +109
      2 February 2017 11: 49
      Even if this sea was, then where to put it all later? Where's the milk? And where are the trucks, buses, agricultural machinery? Where is the rest? What then will fuel be made of, at what price will it come, and to whom will it be sold?

      The answer is simple to disgrace: de facto, Belarus is a part of Russia - we are tied up economically tightly. And not the recognition of this, and even more so the attempt to break the system - speaks only about one thing: someone was firmly seized by the balls.

      No one seriously thinks that the “earned” lies in billions of cash or in Belarusian banks? No, it's in western banks. And once there must come a moment of departure. But how, when and with what content is up to the owners of these banks to decide. The bottom line is that someone is tired and leaves the only possible green corridor to take away the accumulated.
      1. +13
        2 February 2017 11: 53
        Quote: caa
        leaves the only possible green corridor to take away the accumulated

        You don’t need a bow in the west, they will quickly identify him in the jail.
        1. Caa
          +52
          2 February 2017 11: 57
          All that is needed west of Belarus: to draw resources from Russia as much as possible, and then break off relations. Of course, none of the Belvlast authorities is needed by the West. They will simply be allowed to use the withdrawn funds. Do you think this is not enough?)))
          1. +4
            2 February 2017 13: 25
            Quote: caa
            Of course, none of the Belvlast authorities is needed by the West. They will simply be allowed to use the withdrawn funds. Do you think this is not enough?)))

            No, we don’t think. We just think that in order to rob Belarus, the West will have an ideal option and how much money (in Western banks) there doesn’t matter.
            1. Arh
              +9
              2 February 2017 13: 35
              Lukashenko got excited negative
              1. +46
                2 February 2017 13: 51
                Arh ...... Lukashenko got excited negative


                The blackmailer is bluffing, as always. The throw through the media without official confirmation and is awaiting the Kremlin’s reaction. He understands perfectly well that without feeding Russia, his “miracle economy” will be blown away overnight. I forgot how, after the last election, the Russian Federation pumped 3,5 billion dl. Into it in order to save the “bunnies” falling to the plinth and its populist promises. Lukash is not a friend, he is a "gopnik".
                1. Arh
                  +1
                  2 February 2017 13: 59
                  Quote: askort154
                  Arh ...... Lukashenko got excited negative


                  The blackmailer is bluffing, as always. The throw through the media without official confirmation and is awaiting the Kremlin’s reaction. He understands perfectly well that without feeding Russia, his “miracle economy” will be blown away overnight. I forgot how, after the last election, the Russian Federation pumped 3,5 billion dl. Into it in order to save the “bunnies” falling to the plinth and its populist promises. Lukash is not a friend, he is a "gopnik".


                  Clear
                2. +5
                  2 February 2017 16: 39
                  askort

                  And what is the problem in the economy?
                  It seems to work tentatively for Russia. Payment, the same green. Raw dependence on Russia.
                  Something to sell to the west is difficult.
                  So why all these disputes?

                  Maybe the problem is in the very schemes of these allied agreements between Russia and Belarus? Maybe there that is not balanced?

                  In general, talking about contracts under capitalism is nonsense. How can we agree on something if the system is based on competition?

                  It seems that in the union treaties, something does not matter and it is necessary to carefully adjust it.
              2. +5
                2 February 2017 15: 03
                Quote: Arh
                Lukashenko got excited

                Yes, let them roll on all 4, .... sausage.

                So much for the fraternal patriotic feelings - it’s worth it — all this at the prices of hydrocarbons laughing

                one brotherly people, we defend Russia with our breasts, etc. good
          2. +15
            2 February 2017 15: 55
            Quote: caa
            draw resources from Russia as much as possible, and then break off relations. Of course, none of the Belvlast authorities is needed by the West. They will simply be allowed to use the withdrawn funds.

            So that’s the trick: Moscow doesn’t let resources drag itself out anymore. 3 years ago, Luka would give a discount which he asks for and still give a loan. Today, even blackmail with the CSTO does not work. Do you want to be an ally? You will be like Ukraine. We will carry oil with tankers, and at 19 will be SP-2.
            Honestly, I feel sorry for the simple Belarusians who became hostage to Bati. I didn’t think that he would completely move his mind when he was old.
        2. +43
          2 February 2017 11: 59
          Quotation: blooded man
          Luke is not needed in the west,

          in the west, Belarus itself is needed .... the borders with the Russian Federation .... so the old man is sitting for the last term ... then the Maidan (without blood) -eurointegration-aggravation with the RF-enemy No. 1 of the RF-and then Lukashenko is not at all to blame. ..the Kremlin’s faults are to blame .... they scoured Ukraine, now they scour the Belarusians ... and they will rub us that the people love us there ... only there is no power .... we look and remember!
          1. +78
            2 February 2017 12: 22
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            the Kremlin looters are to blame here .... they profiled Ukraine, now they profound Belarusians

            What do you think should be "kremleputy" so as not to "profo" Belarusians. Non-repayable loans in time to give when Belarusians run out of money? Or silently swallow all the fun stuff like smuggling, uncoordinated entry of visa-free, "support" in the international arena. Or maybe buy products from Belarusians to the detriment of their own producers? Won't crack?
            1. +32
              2 February 2017 12: 30
              What do you think should do “kremleputy” so as not to “fool” Belarusians?

              As in Ukraine, to prepare pro-Russian patriots is the fifth column. Already seen enough color revolutions. It is necessary to adopt experience.
              1. +14
                2 February 2017 12: 43
                Quote: Alex_Tug
                As in Ukraine, to prepare pro-Russian patriots is the fifth column.

                I am very glad that the leadership was smart enough not to deal with this muck. It is disgusting, unethical, inefficient and will not lead to anything good. Do you propose how the United States arrange color revolutions, drown neighboring countries in blood?
                1. +32
                  2 February 2017 12: 51
                  I certainly do not propose drowning in blood, but a pro-Russian electorate is also needed for the presidential election. If Protestant Westerners drive Lukashenko to Smolensk, then there will still be elections. Here, observers and polite people should already be ready. Breed on opposite sides of the barricades. We must already prepare, Old Man's head goes.
                2. 0
                  3 February 2017 20: 55
                  In the sense of unethical and inefficient? it’s just the most ethical one, to create an attractive image of your country abroad among a simple layman, to create organizations that are engaged in this propaganda, attract to work and study. and Russia, in relation to Ukraine, was harassed and acted inefficiently, no lessons have been done since 2004. It’s just that the Russian authorities are used to negotiating with anti-people’s elites, buying them, believing that ordinary people are incapable of anything. but it turned out not, and the tranche did not help Yanukovych, because he was already bankrupt for the Ukrainians. In general, the most correct way is to engage in the fight against the 5th column inside the country - corruption, nepotism, social injustice, and then the rest will reach us.
                3. +2
                  7 February 2017 06: 26
                  Dear, you are fundamentally wrong. Examples;
                  1st- Aunt Nuland (representative of one great country) brought a packet of rolls to the square and walked with TV cameras to distribute them to suffering activists! :)
                  The whole world now knows that there is a country that can give buns or cookies for free (as you like, as far as I can, it’s handing out some hell of a kakut to people).
                  2nd example Another (no less great) country tumbled down as it turns out in a neighboring (fraternal) country over 25 billion Baku people in 200 years and no one knew about it, neither the "brotherly" people nor their inhabitants.
                  The conclusion is, who gave the buns is good, and who dumped a bunch of dough into the "fraternal people" and in the literal sense did not let go of hunger in difficult times with a quilted jacket and an occupier.
                  Here is such a sad story, but you are vile and not ethical, you need to think deeper my friend, deeper! wassat hi
              2. +5
                2 February 2017 15: 42
                As you do not understand, they will not give a head to the Republic of Belarus to raise pro-Russian forces, there they give people of Russian citizens to other states because their position does not coincide with the position of the leadership of the Republic of Belarus, and you say to prepare pro-Russian forces. Lukashenko has a monopoly on how to hate Russia and love. So it won’t work for us to cook anyone
            2. +6
              2 February 2017 13: 55
              Quote: Winnie76
              then in your opinion should do "kremleputy" so as not to "profan" Belarus

              work with potential deputy opposition ....
              1. +8
                2 February 2017 15: 41
                Quote: Tiksi-3
                Quote: Winnie76
                then in your opinion should do "kremleputy" so as not to "profan" Belarus

                work with potential deputy opposition ....

                Maybe it’s easier to pin down the eggs to the Regnum so that they would place less desa for the sake of the long-standing Armenian dream of a horseman and a horse, where the Armenians see themselves as riders and the Russian Federation as a horse, and believe that the Bolivar will not bear two.
                1. +1
                  3 February 2017 05: 05
                  Quote: Semurg
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  Quote: Winnie76
                  then in your opinion should do "kremleputy" so as not to "profan" Belarus

                  work with potential deputy opposition ....

                  Maybe it’s easier to pin down the eggs to the Regnum so that they would place less desa for the sake of the long-standing Armenian dream of a horseman and a horse, where the Armenians see themselves as riders and the Russian Federation as a horse, and believe that the Bolivar will not bear two.


                  Armenian provocations ... Well, then it is not surprising. Anything can be expected from these
              2. +9
                2 February 2017 16: 54
                Quote: Tiksi-3
                work with potential deputy opposition ....

                As you know, deputies, even oppositionists, at least some, really like to be friends for green dollars or Eureka, will you pay from your pocket? If from your own, for God's sake Yes If from the state treasury, then stop money is also needed in Russia.
            3. +11
              2 February 2017 14: 01
              Quote: Winnie76
              What do you think should be "kremleputy" so as not to "profo" Belarusians.

              Stop buying relationships for oil and loans. If we would trade oil and gas with our allies at market prices, this would save us from many problems! And the relationship would be built in a natural way, and not according to the "mother-baby" scheme.
              Quote: Winnie76
              Or maybe buy products from Belarusians to the detriment of their own producers? Won't crack?

              What Belarusian products do we take to the detriment of our own manufacturers ?? Yes, with the help of Belarus, we are expanding the domestic market of the vehicle! No, of course there is an option, like North Korea - we buy only what we produce ourselves, and we do not feed the rest.
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              2. +24
                2 February 2017 15: 32
                Quote: Stas157
                Quote: Winnie76
                What do you think should be "kremleputy" so as not to "profo" Belarusians.

                Stop buying relationships for oil and loans. If we would trade oil and gas with our allies at market prices, this would save us from many problems! And the relationship would be built in a natural way, and not according to the "mother-baby" scheme.
                Quote: Winnie76
                Or maybe buy products from Belarusians to the detriment of their own producers? Won't crack?

                What Belarusian products do we take to the detriment of our own manufacturers ?? Yes, with the help of Belarus, we are expanding the domestic market of the vehicle! No, of course there is an option, like North Korea - we buy only what we produce ourselves, and we do not feed the rest.


                Elementary Watson ! I live in Lipetsk and in Lipetsk there is “LTZ” (Lipetsk Tractor Plant) so, at best, it now produces 5-7 tractors per year, and on the streets of the city harvesting equipment (tractors) exclusively of Belarusian production, and not only harvesting equipment as well as construction and agricultural! And you can’t imagine the indignation of the workers who have remained there (pack) !!!

                Although most of them have already been reduced, or they themselves quit due to the lack of orders which they give back to the pack of fraternal Belarus ...

                THIS IS AND IS CALLED IN DAMAGE TO OWN PRODUCER !!! negative
          2. +11
            2 February 2017 12: 29
            ... kremleputy are to blame here .... they have scoured Ukraine, now they are scouring Belarusians ... and they will rub us that the people love us ... only there is no power .... we look and remember!

            So, what is next? "Down with the bloody Putin," Maidan? Where to get tires to tell or find yourself ?!
          3. +12
            2 February 2017 16: 09
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            Belarusians are now profounding ..

            The Russian Federation gave only loans under 20 Lyad and the same amount of oil without any conditions. Where is the money? Why is he again demanding money? Well, if you want money, then go in the stream of Moscow’s policies. Call ATO a crime against your people, the Nazis in Ukraine, the Nazis, etc. But he DOES NOT WANT to do this, so let him go through the forest.
          4. +2
            3 February 2017 07: 34
            here Lukashenko is not at all to blame ... here are the Kremlin Kremlin ....
            Great ideology ... The ideology of the near. We are not to blame for poor parenting, but kindergarten and school ...
        3. WKS
          +64
          2 February 2017 12: 26
          How much is Lukashenka’s “loyalty” to Russia in billions of dollars? Apparently a lot. Is it not better to use this money for domestic needs. And let Belarusian citizens decide for themselves whether they need this blackmailer at the head of state.
          1. +8
            2 February 2017 12: 34
            That's right +++
        4. +26
          2 February 2017 12: 50
          Senile senility and overrated self-esteem of Lukashenko, everything destroys! In his old age, the Old Man decided that after him, such tricks against the fraternal people, his offspring, will be accepted in Europe! But he didn’t know the lessons of Ukraine ... and how in Europe they relate to traitors!
        5. 0
          3 February 2017 14: 31
          Yes, no one needs this subject. At best, he will become a pensioner; at worst, he will share the fate of S. Milosevic. But in the West, Belarus is needed. Rather, its territory is like a springboard for an attack on Russia. From Minsk to Moscow - 700 km. Two tank transitions. And we are again stepping on the Ukrainian rake, having once relied on this pre-farm. You need to think, this is not chess.
        6. 0
          7 February 2017 13: 16
          In the West, all dictators have one fate! Pillar - stool - loop! No soap!
      2. +7
        2 February 2017 11: 55
        Quote: caa

        The answer is simple to disgrace: de facto, Belarus is a part of Russia - we are tied up economically tightly.
        .


        How to interpret Lukashenko, no one will take power from him and will not take it, enough to suffer from mania.
        1. Caa
          +31
          2 February 2017 12: 10
          Yes, he understands this better than you and I! Understand, finally, a simple truth: he is constantly trading! And not because of a cockroach or what. He is FORCED to do this from day one. It was not possible for the Byelorussian SSR to become Belarus and to be economically independent! It is good here if 500 thousand jobs remain, if Russia closes for us.
          1. +7
            2 February 2017 12: 30
            What then does he twitch, because everyone may get tired of his "trade" and what then to do?
            1. +1
              2 February 2017 13: 20
              Quote: cniza
              What then does he twitch, because everyone may get tired of his "trade" and what then to do?

              From Lukashenko himself speeches on the topic do not hear. The Atlant brand and others besides Russia are of little interest to anyone, not to mention the necessary ones. He's not like a suicide. And the fifth column can be found in China.
          2. +4
            2 February 2017 12: 40
            Quote: caa
            It is good here if 500 thousand jobs remain, if Russia closes for us.

            Well, (if this is all true at all), there is no talk of leaving the customs union yet.
            So nothing terrible will happen right up to the "Euroassociation", but then you yourself know everything.
          3. +1
            2 February 2017 12: 43
            A meeting between Russian and Belarusian leaders Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko may take place in the first half of February in Moscow, where a meeting of the Supreme State Council of the Union State of Russia and Belarus will take place. Traditionally, before the event, the heads of state hold separate negotiations. Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov confirmed to Izvestia that such a meeting is planned, and on its agenda is the issue of energy cooperation between the two countries
            1. avt
              +14
              2 February 2017 13: 00
              Quote: To be or not to be
              Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov confirmed to Izvestia that such a meeting is planned, and on its agenda is the issue of energy cooperation between the two countries

              Well, this is normal, it has already happened more than once. Yet again
              The Regnum agency reports that if Minsk really intends to decide on withdrawal from the EAEU and the CSTO, then Moscow is not going to object.
              After the arrest of his correspondents, even a federal agency, but “feelings” for Butsk are warm. The question is not about Butsk’s tantrums, it’s a usual thing, everyday and not even in its current size. The question is what is the current state of the Belarusian economic miracle "? By indirect signs, it’s quite Japanese, well, Motsumoto is a bit dull. Moreover, it’s a little too cheerless. But here, real yong may not notice how Belarus will drive Belarus to the point of bifurcation and no return at the same time with his hysteria and Wishlist. Removing him into the current status quo is already more expensive today. Since the situation in Russia does not allow world realities to keep on the western border something that governs the country that fits into the definition, it’s not a friend or an enemy, but also “Especially since you don’t need to pull him into the mountains and everything is clear.
              1. +9
                2 February 2017 13: 21
                Here is even simpler:
                1. Belarus population counter

                02-02-2017 12:08:58

                Population-9
                The male population (46.5%) - 4 415 819
                The female population (53.5%) - 5
                Born this year-9 905
                Died this year-11 986
                Migrated this year-2
                This is where it’s a bit cheery ..
                Exit.-Back to a single family of peoples.!
                2. GDP and External Debt of Belarus
                02-02-2017 12:17:31
                $ 16 == GDP (Gross Domestic Product) this year
                (at purchasing power parity)

                $ 57 == government debt

                http://countrymeters.info/ru/Belarus/economy
                1. avt
                  +6
                  2 February 2017 13: 28
                  Quote: To be or not to be
                  Exit.-Back to a single family of peoples.!

                  request So yong on me like
                  I want to be the mistress of the sea,
                  To live in the sea of ​​Ocian,
                  To serve me a goldfish
                  And I would have been on my premises. ”
                  Well, no matter how you do not agree, but in the Kremlin the place is
                  Sit as you sit! You won’t move from here, Bob. ... Bolivar ran out of steam, he could not stand two.
                  The throne in the Throne Hall is ONE, even without a folding chair. Yes and
                  Javdet is a coward, Abdullah is a warrior. They do not love each other.
                  bully
                  1. +1
                    2 February 2017 16: 23
                    - Javdet - my ... Meet me - do not touch him ...
                2. 0
                  2 February 2017 16: 24
                  Population Brush thing wrong
          4. +3
            2 February 2017 12: 44
            If Russia closes, nothing remains ... only the jumpers and the fascist scum will climb out like in the country, that’s the whole future of Belarus ...
          5. +4
            2 February 2017 16: 21
            Quote: caa
            He is FORCED to do this from day one.

            Sorry, but there are limits. Call ATO fights for independence is a spit in the Russian Federation. Just like a close friend.
        2. +13
          2 February 2017 12: 15
          Quote: cniza
          How to interpret Lukashenko, no one will take power from him and will not take it, enough to suffer from mania.

          If father has already begun to fill his own worth, then hardly anyone will stop him, but he himself will not be able to stop, otherwise he will drop himself. Why do we even need to feed him and keep him? Let him go and go anywhere, only who is waiting for him, because times are changing.
      3. +2
        2 February 2017 12: 00
        Did a large collective farm get money for a new fence? Oh well...
        I somehow can’t believe it!
      4. +21
        2 February 2017 12: 01
        Here, Batka’s illiterate policy and GDP are in the face.
        Two stubborn-stubborn-narcissistic ...
        What is the first, what is the second - to rip off with a whip when crowded!
        Such "dealers" of the earth - resources - squander the GENOFUND ... and then smart faces are built in cameras, and speeches spiced with plenty of water are pushed. Got it already !!!
        1. +22
          2 February 2017 12: 13
          Here it is, the first true comment. The blame is the greed of the Russian (Russian?) Oil and gas monopolies and the cunning of the Belarusian authorities.
          Well, a little Belarus would have earned a few million dollars in oil, no one would have died, much less oil, there’s nothing special to hunch over, it is a gift from the Earth. No damn, what kind of hee you sold more than we allowed?
          And Belarusians, too, in hurricane terms, learned to grow kiwi bananas, red fish and everything else, and could hold on to their greed.
          That’s all sobsna, it’s all about grandmas, as one satirist said.
          1. +21
            2 February 2017 12: 32
            Quote: Max Otto
            Well, a little Belarus would have earned several million dollars in oil, no one would have died, especially since it’s oil, there’s nothing much to hunch

            We do not trade “Souvenirs,” but let the wallet be shared. Cho we are sorry. We are still stealing ourselves. Yes max?
          2. +21
            2 February 2017 12: 33
            Quote: Max Otto
            The blame is the greed of the Russian (Russian?) Oil and gas monopolies and the cunning of the Belarusian authorities.

            Before that, greedy Russian (?) Companies didn’t send surplus to Belarus, which Batsk’s rummaged? Did they not tolerate seafood made in the Republic of Belarus and so on in the Russian Federation?
            And what did the illiterate get in return Pulya
            GDP with comrades? He received a batch of regular whims of the chairman of the state farm and flirting with ghouls from 404.
            Well, what's the point of continuing to invest your resources in such an "ally"?
          3. +9
            2 February 2017 12: 49
            Yes, little unfortunate Belarus made a little resale here, a little there. Dip me a glass of skate.
            1. +4
              2 February 2017 14: 13
              Belarus made a little resale here, a little there.

              It seems to me that it’s rather not Belarus but Old Man and Co.
          4. +28
            2 February 2017 13: 06
            Quote: Max Otto
            Well, a little Belarus would have earned a few million dollars in oil, no one would have died.

            What are you feel oh and the wildest good can you give me an apartment, I’ll earn a little money by reselling it, how do you look at it, dear Max? After all, no one will die. bully
            Quote: Max Otto
            all the more, it’s oil, there’s nothing special to hunch over, it is a gift from the Earth.

            Have you tried to extract oil, and how much does it cost to know? wink Well, yes, in Russia, oil flows from each water tap, and we produce gas in each garden wassat Burn on. good
            1. +5
              2 February 2017 13: 07
              But what do you feel oh and the wildest good can give me an apartment, I’ll earn a little money by reselling it, how dear Max are you looking at this? After all, no one will die.


              it's not brainstorming laughing on the contrary, the guy would be happy with everything
            2. +12
              2 February 2017 13: 28
              I wanted to answer everyone, but it will be a long time, so in short. Everyone read the first part of the comment, but not the second, it turns out. It’s impossible for our collective farmers to give such money to me at all, but in terms of tariffs and duties Russia could have moved, in other areas it buries far more money, and remind me how much Russia has forgiven debts lately and to whom? There is no Belarus and money is lost many times more, and I do not urge to forgive anything.
              One “south stream” of what it costs, money is buried in 5-8 budgets of the middle country, and how much else in Turechchina they will burrow in frenzy ....
              1. +13
                2 February 2017 14: 03
                Quote: Max Otto
                but in terms of tariffs and duties, Russia could move

                Oh e her, something Nazarbayev is not moving, everything is agreed, everything is agreed and by the pike command, father’s desire, does not change the price and does not include the chantadera. Yes
                Quote: Max Otto
                One “south stream” of what it costs, money is buried in 5-8 budgets of the middle country, and how much else in Turechchina they will burrow in frenzy ....

                Why for nothing? laughing For dollars or Jews, which is defined in the contract. bully This is what life-giving transit does, if Russia has found a workaround, it means
                Quote: Max Otto
                frenzy

                hi
              2. avt
                +13
                2 February 2017 14: 33
                Quote: Max Otto
                remind me how much Russia has forgiven debts lately and to whom?

                Remind me, what kind of nuclear power plants is being built in Belarus? How many times have you been re-credited? And the layout of debts yourself reluctant to look for? Well, to whom and how much should they? Should Russia also pay all that it scored on the side? So they ran into the Chinese, whom the Krychki did not roll, but give me money, or a pledge, so what? Pay for you?
                Quote: Max Otto
                One “south stream” of what it costs, money is buried in 5-8 budgets of the middle country, and how much else in Turechchina they will burrow in frenzy ....

                Once again - WHAT SIDE after 1991 do you relate to OUR debts and deposits ?? What are you? Did not understand that Russia is an independent state? Belarus is independent, and Russia owes you some fright? Put on your underpants, or remove the cross.
              3. +20
                2 February 2017 15: 38
                Belarus recognized Crimea - Russian? Did you recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent? Participates in pacification of barmaley in Syria? Why not?

                That is, gas and oil for free ... like, well, do you feel sorry for something, "we have the Union State, after all?"
                And how to support at least the policy of Russia, here "we have an independent state."
                1. Caa
                  +7
                  2 February 2017 17: 00
                  Belarus recognized Crimea - Russian? Did you recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent? Participates in pacification of barmaley in Syria? Why not?
                  That is, gas and oil for free ... like, well, do you feel sorry for something, "we have the Union State, after all?"
                  And how to support at least the policy of Russia, here "we have an independent state."


                  As a citizen of Belarus, I have nothing to answer .. All of the above, I personally support. Adequate people in the environment - too. But, after all, we do not determine politics.

                  Belarusian elites are afraid of the west, not Russia, and on this basis this whole agenda is being formed. Miserable and worthless.
                  1. +1
                    3 February 2017 05: 19
                    As far as I understand, here no one presents to ordinary people. All demand is from the management.
              4. +4
                2 February 2017 17: 07
                Quote: Max Otto
                I wanted to answer everyone, but it will be a long time, so in short. Everyone read the first part of the comment, but not the second, it turns out. It’s impossible for our collective farmers to give such money to me at all, but in terms of tariffs and duties Russia could have moved, in other areas it buries far more money, and remind me how much Russia has forgiven debts lately and to whom? There is no Belarus and money is lost many times more, and I do not urge to forgive anything.
                One “south stream” of what it costs, money is buried in 5-8 budgets of the middle country, and how much else in Turechchina they will burrow in frenzy ....


                Counting other people's money? Envy gnaws?
          5. avt
            +14
            2 February 2017 13: 20
            Quote: Max Otto
            Well, a little Belarus would have earned several million dollars in oil, no one would have died, especially since it’s oil,

            Already earned, according to easy estimates in relation to world prices since the start of the discounts -85 billion dead American painted prizydentou, and at a maximum of 100. When he was asked not to greet and to light the gesheft, but to share. He kind of agreed, but ..... Your cunning turned out with his fur inside the mother’s mink and, suddenly, instead of distillates with refineries, Belarus abruptly began to export, paints and varnishes. For less money they ask. This is the question
            Quote: Max Otto
            what hee you sold more than we allowed?

            We did not allow it, but did AGREE as part of the EAEU customs procedures. And with what suddenly did the young zazzdel the Customs Code sign an agreed and generally cartel? And it is inserted into the agreed decency framework when it will be more difficult for him to stir up a personal gesheft.
            Quote: Max Otto
            moreover, it’s oil, there’s nothing special to hunch over, it is a gift from the Earth

            Well, this is our gift, the sovereign state of Russia. And what side are you after Viskuli 1991? You’re independent, everyone here has come to know from the “state-owned state” already understood. Well, it’s not the USA that even once to roll out Madeleine about Siberia and the injustice of its one Russia.
            Quote: Max Otto
            All the blame is the greed of the Russians (are they Russian?)

            In-in! Father’s ambitions
            Quote: Winnie76
            We do not trade “Souvenirs,” but let the wallet be shared.

            Yeah, pour a glass, and go.
          6. +2
            2 February 2017 13: 34
            Quote: Max Otto
            The blame is the greed of the Russian (Russian?) Oil and gas monopolies and the cunning of the Belarusian authorities.

            It seems even more that all this did not begin yesterday. Let us recall the story of Ukraine, where our oligarchs rested their horns and did not want to agree on the price of gas. So through the heads of large corporations it is possible to shake relations between countries so that mom does not cry. If you add to this also brainwashing (as it was in Ukraine). That the whole thing is done here it is the source of all the misfortunes, Russia.
            1. avt
              +9
              2 February 2017 13: 48
              Quote: DenZ
              Let us recall the story of Ukraine, where our oligarchs rested their horns and did not want to agree on the price of gas.

              Here hezh ... whistler with a dance! bully And Julia’s gas deal, for which she was later judged, what ?!
              Quote: DenZ
              our oligarchs rested their horns

              And who was tyring gas in addition to being jerked off by agreeing with the late Uncle Vitya and Ram? Lie, do not lie, people’s memory is not as short as someone would like.
              Quote: DenZ
              That the whole thing is done here it is the source of all the misfortunes, Russia.

              Well we already heard it and we hear from Ruin. Already they agreed that the Nazis introduced a law banning everything except the sovereign mob ... agents of the FSB and just not Putin personally.
              Quote: DenZ
              So through the heads of large corporations it is possible to shake relations between countries so that mom does not cry.

              Yeah, that’s what Belarus is an independent state, it’s already reached the point of everyone, now strain on the perception that there is ONE state oligarch in Bclorussia who brought his own household to exorbitant ambitions to bankruptcy.
              1. 0
                2 February 2017 14: 03
                Quote: avt
                that in Bclorussia there is ONE state oligarch

                Well then, in Russia, one oligarch, Putin, agree or will we not make such generalizations?
                Quote: avt
                Well we already heard it and we hear from Ruin. Already they agreed that the Nazis introduced a law banning everything except the sovereign mob ... FSB agents and
                just not Putin personally

                I agree, in the ruin of a mess in its ideal sense.

                Quote: avt
                And who was tyring gas in addition to being jerked off by agreeing with the late Uncle Vitya and Ram? Lie, do not lie, people’s memory is not as short as someone would like.

                I didn’t want anything like that about the memory, I don’t deny the fact that the ruin was tyril gas. But the fact that the contracts with the ruin for gas were enslaving for her (did not choose gas but pay for it) is difficult to deny. The fact that Julia was tried for this is absolutely correct. But our, Russian policy regarding gas prices for Ukraine at the end of the zero was simply barbaric.
                1. avt
                  +9
                  2 February 2017 14: 19
                  Quote: DenZ
                  Well then, in Russia, one oligarch, Putin, agree or will we not make such generalizations?

                  Announce where and in what shares he swims, then we will speak for
                  Quote: DenZ
                  - agree

                  Current for the time being is liquid with evidence base either. And the fact that he steered the state corporations, as the position put in accordance with their charter documents. And his personal built relationship with the leadership of these is the libretto from another opera.
                  Quote: DenZ
                  But the fact that the contracts with the ruin for gas were enslaving for her (did not choose gas but pay for it) is difficult to deny.

                  bully The terms of the long-term contracts with the Ruin are UHUMAN market, so turn off the whistle, turn upside down again, otherwise you will have real discounts on the campaign, the latter for the fleet are Kharkov, so-and-so-I’m really a disaster. And Yulin’s contract was an initiative of the great ukras themselves, but they couldn’t calculate in length and signed - they had fun, counted - they shed a tear. So congratulations again
                  Quote: DenZ
                  But our, Russian policy regarding gas prices for Ukraine at the end of the zero was simply barbaric.

                  citizen of a lie. Since, like a true cheater, quietly silently keep silent WHEN the Ruin was forced to pay in advance and return to the contract and the point - take as much as indicated in the contract and pay.
                  Quote: DenZ
                  . The fact that Julia was tried for this is absolutely correct.

                  We generally have a phallus, your Julia, at least spread on bread and eat it. We do not mind.
                  1. +1
                    2 February 2017 14: 35
                    Quote: avt
                    Announce where and in what shares he swims, then we will speak for

                    No, really. First of all, if you please, as the first hinting about the Old Man, he will voice what shares he consists of. And I'll see if he agrees or not.
                    Quote: avt
                    We generally have a phallus, your Julia, at least spread on bread and eat it. We do not mind.

                    To me, Julia somehow also on the phallus. She is as mine as yours. For living my whole life in the Urals, before Yulia and her sufferings, I have a very strong phallus.

                    For the rest, I finish the conversation with Swami because you are not capable of anything other than rudeness (poorly covered). Cool for now.
                    1. avt
                      +4
                      2 February 2017 15: 59
                      Quote: DenZ
                      For the rest, I finish the conversation with Swami because you are not capable of anything other than rudeness (poorly covered). Cool for now.

                      laughing But at the same time, the question was raised
                      Quote: DenZ
                      No, really. First of all, if you please, as the first hinting about the Old Man, he will voice what shares he consists of. And I'll see if he agrees or not.

                      And since the answer is known, naturally a jump that is not counted. In the pose of insulted greatness it was necessary to get up WITHOUT preliminary
                      Quote: DenZ
                      No, really. if you please first as the first hinting about the Old Man

                      approach to the question. bully
                2. +5
                  2 February 2017 14: 35
                  Quote: DenZ
                  were enslaved for her (did not choose gas but pay for it) is difficult to deny.

                  The enslaving conditions were very suitable for Ukraine, while the prices were set (and it resold almost all the "surplus" to the West very profitably due to the difference). Perhaps this would have continued further, but Yushchenko came, who decided to cheat on the door to applause of the first-found Ukraine and Ukraine got a kick to a famous place and was amazed, "And what about us?"
            2. 0
              3 February 2017 05: 22
              It's not about our aligophrenics. the thing is the Ukrainians.
          7. +17
            2 February 2017 13: 42
            Belarusians will not be able to "hold back their greed." If they don’t care what to make money on, even on Bulbash shrimps, even on weapons and a solarium for ukrofashists. Once you have walked along the Judaic path, then you can’t avoid either the Maidan or civil war. For a long time you sucked a "freebie" from Russia, but everything comes to an end. A resident of NEW RUSSIA, which is now being killed with your help.
          8. +5
            2 February 2017 16: 35
            Quote: Max Otto
            Well, a little Belarus would have earned a few million dollars in oil, no one would have died, much less oil, there’s nothing special to hunch over, it is a gift from the Earth. No damn, what kind of hee you sold more than we allowed?

            Why did Comrade Luke call ATO warriors for independence? Whose ally is he? Whose oil wants? Excuse me again, you want to take from the Russian Federation, and in return do not give anything. Is it normal? Putin is doing everything right. The world is changing and we need allies or partners to know our political resources. Here the Onion was presented with a choice.
            1. +3
              2 February 2017 18: 48
              I'm afraid after all the stuffing from the dad and careful attempts to sit on 2 chairs (We just live in the same house, but we can walk in different apartments; now he is interested in high-tech Europe; sometimes he indignantly speaks about the subject of the Russian Air Force base and adds: give we will fly and protect these Dryings to us).
              Maybe a partial lifting of sanctions from his head hit him? It is not clear, but it is clear that one such ally is not needed.
              And in general, Russia has only allies: the Army, Navy and VKS.
          9. +1
            3 February 2017 07: 50
            Well, a little Belarus would earn several million dollars in oil, no one would die,
            Cool))) So you dug up a garden in the spring, planted potatoes. They huddled, they poisoned bugs, and dug up in the fall ... And your neighbor looked through the fence, but encouraged you. After harvesting, you sold part of the crop to a loafing neighbor. You sold him cheaply (a neighbor, after all). And he sold your potatoes at an exorbitant price ... He did nothing, but he brutalized it. Navar raped, and even chuckles at you. Will you be happy for your neighbor? You will be happy for him, and next year tell him: - "Let me plant more, I will leave as much for myself, and I will sell you more. For cheap ... So, in your opinion, right?)))))
      5. +13
        2 February 2017 12: 12
        Caa
        Your mistake is that you still think Lukashenko is * sick * of Belarus. But this is not so, he and his clan are already more than wealthy and their interests are no longer connected with the Republic of Belarus, they are concerned about the continuity of power and if this fails, then they will create a shelter for themselves and for everything * earned * by overwork. Most likely, his children and other younger clan members have already been promised a lot of things, and Lukashenko is working on a future for himself and his clan.
        1. Caa
          +15
          2 February 2017 12: 30
          You opened my eyes straight to the solvency of the powerful and close in Belarus!)))

          From the side, a lot seems simple and understandable, everyone can be called "sick", collective farmers, etc., etc. But the fact is that you know nothing and understand nothing outside this boiler.

          In the meantime, the Old Man himself did not say anything about leaving the integration formations - and this discussion - there is pure fortune-telling and hollow shells.

          As I said above: if you decide to break off relations with Russia, then our government has decided to retire.
      6. 0
        2 February 2017 12: 36
        Quote: caa
        No, it's in western banks.

        I doubt very much somewhere in Azerbaijan.
      7. +5
        2 February 2017 13: 37
        Quote: caa
        No one seriously thinks that the “earned” lies in billions of cash or in Belarusian banks? No, it's in western banks.

        Do you seriously think that the “leaders” of Belarus have accounts in the West ?. May be. Only sooner have the "leaders" of the opposition. When Luke was the “last dictator” under sanctions, no one anywhere could prove something, hint that he has accounts in the West.
        What may appear is not a question, but why, if it is more possible and more profitable, to privatize all of Belarus in Chubais or through the notorious “Lake”, and then, as a democrat and liberal, to move into world citizens.
      8. +6
        2 February 2017 15: 20
        Or maybe let them go? I live in Smolensk, recently such shit in quality as Belarusians, even the Chinese do not produce.
      9. +3
        2 February 2017 16: 25
        Good riddance, let’s go out, we’ll see how long it will stretch ...
      10. 0
        2 February 2017 18: 08
        [i] Even if this sea was, then where to put all this later? Where's the milk? And where are the trucks, buses, agricultural machinery? Where is the rest? What then will fuel be made of, at what price will it come, and to whom will it be sold?
        The answer is simple to disgrace: de facto, Belarus is a part of Russia - we are tied up economically tightly. And not the recognition of this, and even more so the attempt to break the system - speaks only about one thing: someone was firmly seized by the balls.
        No one seriously thinks that the “earned” lies in billions of cash or in Belarusian banks? No, it's in western banks. And once there must come a moment of departure. But how, when and with what content is up to the owners of these banks to decide. The bottom line is that someone is tired and leaves the only possible green corridor to take away the accumulated. [B]



        I fully support ..... removed from the language!
    2. +12
      2 February 2017 11: 51
      More than sure, Old Man will not go out, because he has nowhere to go.
      While he’s giving up, he’ll get his penny and calm down for a while.
      In his concept - for friendship with him you have to pay.
      1. Caa
        +12
        2 February 2017 11: 59
        He is in some strange, sophisticated measure - a patriot. Surprisingly. But his mistake is fatal in that he does not follow his surroundings. They already have SO MUCH means and resources, which, I am afraid, at the critical moment it will no longer determine the fateful decisions.
        1. +3
          2 February 2017 12: 33
          Quote: caa
          He is in some strange, sophisticated measure - a patriot. Surprisingly. But his mistake is fatal in that he does not follow his surroundings. They already have SO MUCH means and resources, which, I am afraid, at the critical moment it will no longer determine the fateful decisions.


          Not so bad?
          1. +8
            2 February 2017 12: 43
            Yes. Plus the complete unsuitability of the Russian embassy, ​​as before in Ukraine.
            1. +1
              3 February 2017 07: 55
              Quote: Roma-1977
              Yes. Plus the complete unsuitability of the Russian embassy, ​​as before in Ukraine.

              Again, kindergarten, but the school is to blame for the education of your child))))
              1. 0
                3 February 2017 12: 57
                If you let everything drift, you should not hope that the result will be acceptable. The Russian embassy in the Republic of Belarus continues to pretend to be an ostrich with its head in the ground or three monkeys in the style of: "I don’t see, I don’t hear, I don’t say."
          2. Caa
            +8
            2 February 2017 13: 25
            While pulling, but the downward trend does not change. And you can’t see the forces capable of breaking it.
            Initially, the plan was such that due to external means (you know whose?) And preferences from the market common with Russia,
            A) a rather fat social program for the population (I’m not talking about pensions, but about housing benefits, disproportionate salary productivity, low prices for studies, free medicine (albeit none), etc.
            B) find, create, nurture (by any means) OWN, i.e. Domestic growth drivers (economic, of course). You can recall the attempts to breathe life into mechanical engineering, at one time into flax processing, the chemical industry, and woodworking ate a lot of money. These (there were more) - a complete failure, zero exhaust! Cut, illiteracy, etc. Separately, about the "collective farm", which everyone loves so much))) It turned out, in fact, normal. Of course, the absolute leader is milk, followed by, most likely, associated with the bird. The rest is simple, rejoice - lives!

            It turned out that consumption is growing, but growth drivers have not appeared. Milk is tied to Russia 100%. The rest that still breathes is on her. It turns out that the internal sources of existence were not so internal. In general, export from the Republic of Belarus Outside the CU (except for fertilizers) is a very, very insignificant part.

            And Belarusians got used to living quite simply (meaning not well-being, but a way of life): yes, they work, but this work can hardly be called productive, even if it is production. Such is the paradox. Throw them into market conditions where you need to constantly study, improve qualifications, show initiative, hold on to your place, and be responsible for your own future and the future of your children - they will not survive.

            And here’s the summary:
            Belarusians vitally need current power and how it works. And the authorities vitally need resources, and resources are NOT FROM residents, but FOR residents. Those. Sustainable power here is possible only with external financing, impressive and growing from year to year.

            Does this all remind the inhabitants of Russia? That's right, this relationship is the relationship of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation with the Federal budget)))))))))))))
            1. 0
              2 February 2017 17: 10
              Quote: caa
              And Belarusians got used to living quite simply (meaning not well-being, but a way of life): yes, they work, but this work can hardly be called productive, even if it is production. Such is the paradox. Throw them into market conditions where you need to constantly study, improve qualifications, show initiative, hold on to your place, and be responsible for your own future and the future of your children - they will not survive.

              When directors are only concerned that stealing the economy does not work, Belarusians as people adapt to market conditions, due to the fact that Belarusians are poorly trained. You wrote frank stupidity.
              1. 0
                2 February 2017 19: 05
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                on the account of the fact that Belarusians are poorly trained you wrote frank stupidity.

                He meant that with the market, Belarusians would lose their market to Russians, Lithuanians, etc. because they’ve been in the market for 15 years. As long as you learn, neighbors will buy all the tidbits.
                1. +3
                  2 February 2017 20: 00
                  Quotation: blooded man
                  While you are a neighbor, all the tidbits will be bought up.

                  They will even buy from trained people, the opportunities are not equal, your capitalization of Rosneft alone is equal to the GDP of Belarus, it’s not so important who the owner of the enterprise is, the main thing is that it works efficiently and generates income to the treasury and creates jobs, what’s the use of it if it’s state-owned if people are 2 days a week work for him or for six months on vacation at his own expense. The economy of Belarus should have been tightly integrated into the Russian one, but due to problems with property, it is becoming simpler and worse every year, morally and technically lagging behind global trends, if in 2012 someone needed MAZ, then today Germans settled on KAMAZ and build production lines, and MAZ stands with its unsold products, if nothing changes then in 10 years MAZ will have no chance to join the economy, or maybe much faster, it hurts too quickly the world is developing. We returned to the beginning of the 90s only in the 90s everyone was in the same conditions, and now we are in the twilight zone.
                  There are young intelligent guys, they start something, what happens, earn initial capital, and then what? Where to invest? Where is the guarantee of immunity? A bunch of questions and zero answers. The economy does not work in such conditions, and skills are secondary here.
                  1. +1
                    2 February 2017 20: 14
                    Quote: saturn.mmm
                    The decree will be written and you are at a trough.

                    What kind of decrees? Like under Lenin or something)
                    By the way, I still don’t understand why Luka forbade combining MAZ with KAMAZ. He probably understands that in the modern world only large automakers can survive. What was his interest in breaking this deal?
                    1. +1
                      2 February 2017 23: 07
                      Quotation: blooded man
                      What was his interest in breaking this deal?

                      Quotation: blooded man
                      By the way, I still don’t understand why Luka forbade combining MAZ with KAMAZ.

                      Do not bargain.
                      1. 0
                        3 February 2017 14: 53
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        Do not bargain.

                        So, in general, nothing will be received. Who will need MAZ in 5-10 years? Dad really does not understand this or what? He doesn’t seem to do ... r..a..k?
        2. +5
          2 February 2017 13: 09
          Quote: caa
          He is in some strange, sophisticated measure - a patriot. Surprisingly. But his mistake is fatal in that he does not follow his surroundings. They already have SO MUCH means and resources, which, I am afraid, at the critical moment it will no longer determine the fateful decisions.

          This can be said about our top rats. Putin, too, is embarrassed to say something to him, such an impression — all domestic politics and the economy, as it was by gravity, remained.
          1. 0
            3 February 2017 05: 35
            Since the 90s, domestic policy has been aimed at eliminating Russia, so nothing has changed, at the helm of the economy are the same people, or their successors.
      2. +3
        2 February 2017 12: 05
        Will not come out? Will oligarchs buy, not buy? Poland will give money for a turn to the west. and there look for wind in the field. Unemployment is 20% and "zrobitschane" around the world.
        While Lukashenko was heading for a social state, but the oligarchs grew, finished off Belarus. Absorption or collapse (entrance to the Center of Europe under the exchange of industries for "Mercedes")?
        There was not enough time (for a bad dancer ... they interfere, and for a very bad partner) of the Russian Federation to breed several crises in time. A very sharp turn occurred, from 22.02.14, to the confrontation.
        First, take over the absorption in a soft alliance with Central Asia (where our industry is needed), then RB (difficult, but there are many ties), then Ukraine.
        He put on his trousers, slipped the footcloths in his boots in the evening and put on his boots on alarm, on the run, grabbed the top with him and dressed as much as possible. "Anxiety, anxiety ... in hot blood.
        But the Rosa Khutor was built.
        1. +3
          2 February 2017 12: 22
          Quote: antivirus
          While Lukashenko was heading for a social state, but the oligarchs grew, finished off Belarus. Absorption or collapse (entrance to the Center of Europe under the exchange of industries for "Mercedes")?

          I did not understand this. What oligarchs and Cheg Luka were not allowed to build? And what kind of garbage is this that depends on the oligarchs?
          1. +1
            2 February 2017 16: 19
            Vertically integrated companies, holdings. There is a gas station. the fuel delivery company + licenses + storage + refinery + pipe + refinery + wells + ??? (the fantasy of Aliekverov or Sechin, he will be the first to go to Europe).
            There is a mash plant + licenses + contracts + export contracts + production of machine tools and other equipment + sales markets (own) + own state standards + personnel of the required qualification and level of consumption of these products
            And other industries and growths by analogy.
            Hammer (purchase) for the sale of RB oil refineries to the Outskirts + Vost Evr (EU !!!!) and the raw materials for the mashines are built from the Russian Federation and the products are ready = one owner for all chains. Which is credited where?
            That's right, in Sberbank and VTB !!!
            Everybody dance!!! did not go directly with the purchase along these chains of Ukraine, they went through the Republic of Belarus and then turned back south (to Ukria).
            Our oligarchs have little strength to work in Europe. There is money, little intelligence. Without mind, only in the BSSSR
      3. +2
        2 February 2017 14: 15
        In his concept - for friendship with him you have to pay.

        These are usually called: political ...
      4. +2
        2 February 2017 21: 52
        But why the hell endure his whims ?! Now it’s our turn to be capricious, which, by the way, was said, otherwise he, you see, winds up on our oil, brings in all sorts of nastiness, and at that time delivers weapons and fuel (from our own oil) to the mischievous pan-and-pan. Has the dad got fucked up (excuse me for my French custody)?
    3. +15
      2 February 2017 11: 53
      Already got this collective farmer. If we lose our market, we’ll be left without pants at all.
      1. +4
        2 February 2017 11: 57
        I feel after the Belarusian visa-free visa inaudibly sneaking Russian visas. That will be fun for a whiskered man
    4. RDX
      +10
      2 February 2017 12: 01
      Wangyu, 20 years later, the eastern regions of Belarus and the Outskirts will be part of the Russian Federation, but there will still be a lot of blood. Sly barbel does not want to learn from the mistakes of neighbors from the outskirts, and strives to step on the same rake
    5. +7
      2 February 2017 12: 11
      All the same, you need to prepare a plot near Rostov ... Here, a kunskamera can be formed there: Yanukovych, Lukashenko and ... Poroshenko! You can call the street like that in the new cottage village "Street on the ... retired presidents" laughing
      1. +4
        2 February 2017 22: 01
        No, no, nah-nah - let them go to Canada! Is there a leper colony here in RO?
    6. +1
      2 February 2017 13: 06
      and spit on the 6th US fleet
    7. +5
      2 February 2017 13: 20
      Believe "Regnum" -Do not respect yourself. Until then, the Russian media will be in the hands of various Simonyans, Baghdasaryans, Kurginyans and other Yans, and for how long will the public opinion of this country be formed by the Yans through the Regnums?
      1. +5
        2 February 2017 14: 07
        The anti-Belarusian position of Regnum was formed several years ago precisely on the "Armenian issue". Good relations between Azerbaijan and Belarus cause fury among the leadership of this agency. Regnum is most likely a foreign agent of influence (Armenian) in the Russian media.
      2. +1
        3 February 2017 15: 02
        Quote: xetai9977
        will form -yans through "Regnums"?

        It is not "Rengum" called ATO warriors for independence. This is not a "rengum" duty unilaterally changed, etc.
    8. +1
      2 February 2017 14: 26
      article from the series "grandmas on the bench said" lol
    9. 0
      2 February 2017 14: 39
      And bananas and citrus fruits?
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 15: 37
        the main thing is Belarusians, do not become "maydanute", remember that we are brothers. Do not lead to the fact that in Ukraine ...
        1. 0
          2 February 2017 16: 25
          Maybe you and brother Belarusians. But what about the other commentators. They will not agree with you. For them, Belarusians are, at best, parasites who sit on their necks and deflate them. own resources.
          Do you think that the local public does not know that this news is fake? They know and still continue to sow discord. VO turns into an information dump. And for the sake of what, for the sake of increasing attendance. Apparently it's time to leave here.
          1. +2
            2 February 2017 17: 07
            Quote: KP8789
            . For them, Belarusians are, at best, parasites who sit on their necks and pump out their own resources.

            do not confuse people with "father" ....
          2. +1
            3 February 2017 15: 03
            Quote: KP8789
            Do you think that the local public does not know that this news is fake?

            And about ATO feik or what? Luke said that to kill the Russian Donbas means to fight for independence?
            1. 0
              3 February 2017 15: 35
              And here ATO? A specific fake about the withdrawal of Belarus from the EAEU and the CSTO is being discussed. No need to bring all the news together. Otherwise, it will turn out not a discussion, but a bazaar about everything and about nothing.
              1. +1
                3 February 2017 20: 21
                Quote: KP8789
                Belarus from the EAEU and the CSTO. No need to bring all the news together. Otherwise, it will turn out not a discussion, but a bazaar about everything and about nothing.

                Already recalled customs officers from the EAEU.
        2. 0
          3 February 2017 08: 35
          Who is this to say? Normal and so everyone understands, scum who want to oppose Belarus to Russia only chuckle.
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          the main thing is Belarusians, do not become "maydanute", remember that we are brothers. Do not lead to the fact that in Ukraine ...
    10. 0
      3 February 2017 10: 21
      It is clear that this is politics, and the Old Man is being traded. In no case do not condone him. And yet, it is worth remembering that in the Soviet era, the BSSR was one of the few that was not a subsidized republic. Those. Belarus itself has always fed itself, unlike different georgia and the Baltic states ...
      The bad thing is that with the most faithful ally, relations are built only on profit ...
      As history shows, relationships that are built on money are not strong.
      An idea can be strong, but everything that is for sale WILL BE SOLD!
      But we have one idea - RUSSIAN WORLD!
      1. 0
        3 February 2017 15: 40
        Show me where the RUSSIAN WORLD is? Just do not say that he is in Russia. It will be blasphemy. Although everyone understands the RUSSIAN WORLD in their own way.
  2. +20
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    What a news ! The roof definitely went, but this has been a long time coming!
    No wonder the border with Belarus began to build!
    1. +8
      2 February 2017 11: 52
      The fate of Yanukovych does not bother him?
      1. Caa
        +11
        2 February 2017 12: 02
        And you?))) Yes, here the majority vote for such a fate !!! This Yanukovych lives, yes - a political corpse, a disgrace, etc., but in a hefty house, eats caviar with spoons and doesn’t ride the bus for sure. So it was he who did not even have time to prepare for the departure from power)))
    2. +13
      2 February 2017 11: 56
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      What a news ! The roof definitely went, but this has been a long time coming!
      No wonder the border with Belarus began to build!

      Old Man hysterically, the nerves are being handed over ... I owed half a billion dollars to Russia, for gas and oil, but I don’t want to give it back ..... So he bit the bit, hoping that they would start grabbing him forks and persuade him to stay in the former format for writing off debts unilaterally, or they will give regular discounts on energy resources, reselling them at a slightly overpriced price, and he, by the difference, will pay off the debts. Or maybe you don’t need to hold him? Maybe Peskov needs to comment on this statement in the sense that we respect this choice, but at the same time we will have to reconsider the provision of benefits and other preferences for Belarus that it receives while in the EAEU common space.
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 13: 21
        So it will be now.
        They will set two conditions: the accession of Belarus, or go through the forest. I think Putin understands that it is better now to force Lukashenko to unite Belarus with Russia. Looking at Ukraine, one should understand that there is no more time. If you do not unite, billions in vain will erupt again, again our countries will be driven into the ass.
        1. +13
          2 February 2017 14: 48
          Quote: vasiliev yu
          I think Putin understands that it is better now to force Lukashenko to unite Belarus with Russia.

          And why the heck is Putin Belarus? In the year 14 there was a huge historical chance of the reunification of the lands of Novorossiya with Russia, from Lugansk and Kharkov to Odessa and Transnistria, but Putin merrily merged it. He doesn’t need anything. He can’t give a mind in Russia, where industrial production should be established, and not resources pumped. And you offer him Belarus. Then the Kuril Islands are burning a thigh, and that look will push under the fanfare of the eternal peace with the Japs.
          1. +2
            2 February 2017 22: 04
            Quote: Karabin
            cowardly leaked.

            the most correct qualification of what happened.
            After all, Ban Ki-moon arrived, explained that Ukraine is still the administrative district of the USSR. So Putin, it seems, fell into a panic (press conference) and strongly denied imperial ambitions. And it’s okay at home personally! And then he spoke for Russia!
          2. 0
            3 February 2017 08: 48
            I see no one understands the difference between the 14th and 17th year. And think about it weakly? ((
            In the year 14, Putin and his dumb circle and advisers hoped for a quiet showdown, and therefore did not oppose themselves to the whole West. Over the years, it became clear to everyone, to hope for the mercy of the West, stupidity is dumb. And if we assume that even from Belarus they will install an iron curtain like Ukraine, the Baltic states. What will Russia do then? Especially with the current economy.
        2. +1
          2 February 2017 17: 09
          Quote: vasiliev yu
          If you do not unite, billions in vain will erupt again, again our countries will be driven into the ass.

          billions and so ... and in the ass too ... if the country doesn’t care about old people and children, it has problems ...
    3. +4
      2 February 2017 12: 17
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      What a news ! The roof definitely went, but this has been a long time coming!
      No wonder the border with Belarus began to build!

      A fool not need a knife,
      He's lying with three boxes
      And do what you like with him.

      Since when did Regnum dump become an official source?
      1. +4
        2 February 2017 12: 39
        For komenty-read. To the people he’s stomping.
  3. +15
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    Lukashenko is considering the possibility of Belarus leaving the Eurasian Economic Union and the Collective Security Treaty Organization

    Interestingly, but he has not yet considered ways to leave the republic in a conflict situation? In the West it is not needed, Moscow after its tricks too. It remains only to a friend Poroshenko, who himself hangs in the balance.
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 11: 55
      In the West they will accept him, but then they will strangle him in The Hague.
      1. +7
        2 February 2017 12: 08
        Yes, fullness! One has been living near Rostov for three years, and this "cunningly ...." will live near Smolensk and give interviews to reporters how honest he was and how his west deceived ...
        1. +1
          2 February 2017 12: 29
          For this to happen, you need to work long and seriously on the population on the example of Ukraine.
  4. +11
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    And here let the flag be in his hands ... What then will workers of the stopped production say to him ..
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 11: 56
      Well, why do we need "Ukraine 2", can explain to him.
    2. +10
      2 February 2017 12: 10
      Do we have a lot of talk? Or production does not stop? In our Rybinsk all the time. Saturn, it would seem, the defense industry, orders ... Moves to the 4-day since March.
      So they will not say anything. They will be shown the enemy in the east, that is, us. But the "national treasure" Gazsrem will continue to contain Russophobic Yecho matzo.
  5. +9
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    if Minsk really intends to decide on withdrawal from the EAEU and the Collective Security Treaty Organization, then Moscow is not going to object.


    There is a bargaining between Minsk and Moscow. Who has stronger nerves, he will win.
    1. +17
      2 February 2017 11: 50
      Quote: glory1974
      There is a bargaining between Minsk and Moscow. Who has stronger nerves, he will win.

      Putin well done. Finally, we stopped containing the modes after the experience with Ukainoi. I don’t like friendship with Moscow, please go wherever you want. . Just get ready for market relations.
      1. +5
        2 February 2017 12: 02
        Quotation: blooded man
        please go wherever you want

        Wow. and infrastructure, and eq. communication, and the defense industry? “Go wherever you want means” that tomorrow there will be something like Ukraine and maybe NATO.
        1. +3
          2 February 2017 15: 46
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          Quotation: blooded man
          please go wherever you want

          Wow. and infrastructure, and eq. communication, and the defense industry? “Go wherever you want means” that tomorrow there will be something like Ukraine and maybe NATO.

          In order for NATO not to attack, it is necessary to develop deterrence forces and not kings who at the most unpleasant moment can stick a knife in the back. But the defense industry needs to develop its own military industrial complex and pay a salary to its citizens.
        2. +1
          2 February 2017 15: 58
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          Wow. and infrastructure, and eq. communication, and the defense industry? “Go wherever you want means” that tomorrow there will be something like Ukraine and maybe NATO

          So what to do? Ukraine has shown that money for a freebie and good relations lead on the contrary to trouble. Seichas our allies should have a clear choice, not blackmail.
    2. +18
      2 February 2017 12: 01
      There is a bargaining between Minsk and Moscow. Who has stronger nerves, he will win.


      And then there are nerves, Lukashenko wants gas-oil at domestic prices of the Russian Federation, plus freedom of export. Nothing in return. Rather, in return, the status quo with the game in various alliances. Actually, this is when your partner in the card game, sets the conditions - he wins, and besides, you must pay him for the game. What to talk about? And what are the nerves? Russia, the only way to stay in power, otherwise, all the opposition, laboriously cultivated by the West, will receive a protest electorate. And not a few thousand, but millions. Here the blackmail is such, or I will give the country to Europe, or pay. Maybe there are options? For me, the conversation should be one, give it back and die.
    3. +9
      2 February 2017 12: 03
      Quote: glory1974
      There is a bargaining between Minsk and Moscow. Who has stronger nerves, he will win.

      In fact, this is a dispute between business entities, which Luka once again transforms into a relationship policy. Under the contract, the Russian Federation supplies oil at preferential prices to oil refineries, under the same contract, the Russian Federation should receive gasoline, I don’t remember the numbers, conditionally 3 million tons. Gasoline received 30% of the contract, because Luka sold it to the West for bucks. It all started with that. Add RB debt for gas (for 500 million tanks) and an outstanding credit line for hundreds of million tanks.
  6. +1
    2 February 2017 11: 39
    Rather, he himself will be taken outside the framework.
  7. +2
    2 February 2017 11: 41
    The trouble is that Russia sells these hydrocarbons at one price and the other at another, there is a price and that's it!
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 11: 49
      Quote: viktor.
      The trouble is that Russia sells these hydrocarbons at one price and the other at another, there is a price and that's it!

      What about shrimp? And on the tractor? The price of hydrocarbons is a political thing. If you move in one, they will respond to you with the price of oil. If you don’t want to move, buy at the market price.
    2. +17
      2 February 2017 11: 53
      Quote: viktor.
      The trouble is that Russia sells these hydrocarbons at one price and the other at another, there is a price and that's it!

      It doesn’t matter, it’s business. We in Russia buy foreign cars made in Europe at the same price, and Europeans in their own way are domestic, or we should take a pose like Luke and demand the price of the manufacturer’s factory.
      The cost of Russian gas in Europe is $ 215-235, the outskirts were offered at 185, Belarus buys at 135, but Luka really wants at $ 80.
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 12: 00
        there is a price of 215-235 and that's it. for all one.
        1. +7
          2 February 2017 12: 17
          Quote: viktor.
          there is a price of 215-235 and that's it. for all one.

          The entire economy of the "collective farm" type, which Luka built, operates on the basis of cheap energy resources obtained from the Russian Federation. At real market prices, production of Belarus becomes unprofitable.
  8. +15
    2 February 2017 11: 42
    Cool guy - Grigorich))) he is trying to get 17 yards of profaned American rubles))) it’s a pity that he chose the wrong method ...
    At this pace, tsarism will soon come to an end, but what will happen next ...))) there is a high probability of repeating the fate of the neighbors (((
    1. +6
      2 February 2017 12: 07
      Quote: Kisso4kin
      At this rate, tsarism will soon end

      So after all, they say such things about us.
      Quote: Kisso4kin
      it is likely to repeat the fate of the neighbors (((

      Then we will hang ourselves. Solid front from the Baltic to the Black Sea. As in the Second World War. Only the people are not the one and we will fight one way or another with the "brothers" Slavs. The dream of the states and Europe. Are they sensitive to losses? OK, they will not be. The natives (that is, that is) themselves zafigachat each other. The main thing with the hands of liberal governments firewood toss to the fire
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 13: 57
        Old Man is bored)))
        You can’t wash in few places. everywhere already gone. So he is engaged in this kind of movement, anyway there is nothing to raise the economy for. It will play and fall to the ground. He knows very well that having finally turned his back on Russia, he will not only lose it, but he will also bother
  9. +19
    2 February 2017 11: 43
    I’m tired of this dictator Lukashenka, Russia’s brother is not my brother. How much is possible. I would also like to pay for the housing and communal services at my own tariff, which I like, and for sausage and gasoline, and I would smile at everyone and be very pleased.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 12: 04
      The dictator is somehow liberoid! We will always agree with Belarus, with or without Lukashenko!
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 12: 30
        Quote: You Vlad
        A dictator is like a liberoid!

        But kt0 is he like that?
        1. 0
          2 February 2017 13: 44
          He is the president of his country, chosen by a majority feelAnglo-Saxons call the dictator those leaders who send them to the forest and begin to think about their people feel
          1. +1
            2 February 2017 14: 39
            Quote: You Vlad
            He is the president of his country, chosen by a majority

            How old is he president? Where is his opposition? The president wanted and led the republic out of the CSTO, not the people decided by the President !!!
            He is a dictator, no doubt.
            1. 0
              2 February 2017 14: 58
              And what’s your business, how old is the president? It’s not up to you to decide, but to the citizens of Belarus! If he suits them, then he is authorized to think about their interests! All these changes of presidents entail only one thing, that the so-called president becomes only a pawn in the wrong hands Do you imagine how much time a person needs to plunge into the topic of government? But smart people figured out how to avoid this, you need to change presidents more often and the more democratic the state wassat You do not see the whole absurdity of the situation? what
              1. +2
                2 February 2017 16: 21
                But it’s such that the president cannot rule the state unchanged, unlike dictators or emperors. Kim Jong-un also suits everyone, means he is authorized, and who doesn’t like him has rotted for a long time.
                1. 0
                  2 February 2017 16: 49
                  "And it is such that the president cannot rule the state forever, unlike dictators or emperors." And tell me in secret why? wassat
        2. +3
          2 February 2017 21: 53
          Quote: Petr1
          But kt0 is he like that?

          In March 2015, Minsk turned to the Eurasian Fund for Stabilization and Development with a request to issue a loan of $ 3 billion. However, the fund decided to give out only $ 2,1 billion, and not immediately, but in several tranches over three years. Minsk received the first two tranches of $ 800 million last year. The Eurasian Fund requires that the national debt to Belarus’s GDP should not exceed 45%. But now this figure is 45,5%, and it will be difficult to keep it at that level. Devaluation, recession, or fulfillment of state guarantees (which last year rose to 11,7% of GDP) may lead to a state debt exceeding the mark by 60%. In 2017, Belarus needs to pay off $ 1,2 billion of foreign currency bonds. And also pay $ 800 million in Eurobonds in January 2018. In total, Minsk needs $ 2 billion just to pay off its debts.
          Out of nowhere Luke will not come out !!! Most likely, Russia will give this "collective farmer" $ 2 billion, but only on what terms. hi
  10. +8
    2 February 2017 11: 45
    Media: Lukashenko intends to withdraw Belarus from the EAEU and the CSTO
    laughing You sho! And we thought the old man knows how to be friends not because of pennies! laughing
    1. +15
      2 February 2017 11: 58
      : And what will happen to the collective farms if tomorrow everything disappears from the shelves in Russia in an instant. Belarus probably forgot the end of 2000. When there was a ball on the shelves, I was passing through Minsk. I had to go to local sights for a day. All current well-fed life in Belarus is no secret to 99% dependent on Russia. The Kremlin did not allow pennies to print. Now a freebie in the form of oil bye-bye. This means that we should buy products from Belarus as much as they want to buy. And our (oil is also a product) how much the Old Man wants laughing It doesn't happen that long.
      1. +4
        2 February 2017 22: 31
        Quote: Observer2014
        : So the products from Belarus, we have to how much they want to buy. And our (oil is also a product) how much the dad wants laughing It doesn't happen that long.

        And one more trick has recently manifested itself: I have one friend at the ice cream factory who is working as the chief technologist. So, they always bought butter in Belarus. And they hardly even checked it, very rarely. Now, now, for a couple of years, behind them, says, eye and eye - they are trying to get into such pornography, shaw kapets! Complaints, he says, have to be written almost every second week. But she won’t lie - she’s been working as the chief technologist since Soviet times, she determines the oil quality better than the analyzer by “organoleptic methods”, and there’s no reason ...
  11. cap
    +10
    2 February 2017 11: 46
    The day before, a statement was published in the Belarusian media that the oil “is available to Belarus itself, and it could last 35 years, only the production of hydrocarbons, as well as Belarusian gold and diamonds (and they also are ...) is unprofitable”.


    You can dig something on asteroids, but there are no rockets and technologies yet. Hence the conclusion, early insanity, and immediately 2 degrees. Mother-in-law 3 therefore I know what I'm saying.
    1. +3
      2 February 2017 12: 30
      At the mother-in-law 3.

      So it’s time to erect a monument, in the hero’s homeland !!!!! soldier laughing laughing
    2. +1
      3 February 2017 09: 52
      I really understand you.((
      The grandmother, a neighbor from above, is also senile. I am calm and philosophical when she drowns me.
  12. +6
    2 February 2017 11: 46
    The Yanukovych-Parashenko case lives and wins! In Belarus too ...
  13. +4
    2 February 2017 11: 47
    Old Man ... fooled what?
  14. +7
    2 February 2017 11: 48
    And what? Dad also wanted to Rostov region for permanent residence ??? recourse
    Maybe he’s bought a house already? In the neighborhood with a well-known individual. fool
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 22: 34
      Nah-nah, what is it like that, so right "under Rostov"? And not, for example, Belgorod. Or Voronezh?
  15. +4
    2 February 2017 11: 49
    Where will Lukashenko run after the Maidan?
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 12: 01
      Quote: kenig1
      Where will Lukashenko run after the Maidan?


      Russia is a generous soul ...........
  16. +2
    2 February 2017 11: 49
    This is Putin’s cunning plan. laughing We need non-aligned allies.
  17. +4
    2 February 2017 11: 50
    Quote: VSZMK
    the production of hydrocarbons, as well as Belarusian gold and diamonds (and they also exist ...) is still unprofitable

    While there are enough shrimps and lobsters from the Belarusian sea.

    And also kiwi, bananas and avocados from the fields of Belarus
  18. +7
    2 February 2017 11: 50
    The whole history of Belarusian statehood in the 1990 — 2000 years is one continuous tactic.
    The lack of a strategic “framework” led the republic into an economic and social impasse. Today, the main problem of Belarus is that Russia, which is its main trade and political partner, did not conserve Soviet production relations on its territory - if anyone had any illusions, the default of 1998 of the year dispelled them. The modern Russian economy is much more open and market in nature than the Belarusian one; therefore, there can be no talk of any equal interaction. A paradoxical situation has developed: in the financial and economic “food pyramid”, Russia, which is an exporter of raw materials, is higher than Belarus, which produces precision engineering products.

    You can, of course, become isolated within your borders, proclaim autocracy, come up with something like Juche’s ideas and build socialism in one country for some time, but such a strategy has no prospects, and sooner or later Belarus will have to turn to Russia and reanimate the concept of the Union State.
    This is quite obvious, and the sharp protests of A. Lukashenko did not make much impression on President V. Putin. It is clear to the Kremlin that Belarus cannot avoid joining the Russian Federation and that only details of the integration process are subject to discussion by Minsk
    1. +7
      2 February 2017 12: 06
      Belarus cannot avoid joining the Russian Federation


      I always neighing the independence of Belarusians

      it will be so
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 12: 39
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        it will be so

        By and large, this is the only normal way out of the situation for them, for us it is also not bad, although if you think about it at what point. Throw a couple of bags on a cart when the horse pulls uphill, not every owner will do it if not bad, another thing if the horses are a couple in one harness.
  19. +11
    2 February 2017 11: 50
    It is unfortunate, of course, that the integration project is stalling, but Lukashenko is such a slippery type. It requires preferences, violates the terms of the customs union, Crimea did not recognize Russia, with Poroshenko almost hammering in the gums. So - he went to hell with his blackmail. You can live without it.
  20. +10
    2 February 2017 11: 50
    How can we survive without the Belarusian bastion. Someone will protect us now. Frightened by a mustachio ... Farewell to royal Belarusian shrimp, it will be hard for me without you ...
  21. +3
    2 February 2017 11: 51
    Now the Kazakhs need to follow in the footsteps of Ukraine and Belarus to leave Russia.
    1. +2
      2 February 2017 12: 41
      Kazakhs are too wise to do something to their own detriment.
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 22: 37
        Yes, eastern people ...
  22. +6
    2 February 2017 11: 51
    Potato will be sold to Europe. laughing But seriously, either blackmail or sold out. Belarus tse Europe bully
  23. +10
    2 February 2017 11: 52
    With all due respect to the Old Man, he has a certain protistitutochnost. We introduced sanctions on food supplies from the EU, he began to drive goods through his republic, the same story with oil (bought cheaper, sold more expensive). It’s bad that such allies can leave, although on the other hand ... Well, their allies.
  24. +2
    2 February 2017 11: 52
    Something tells me not to good it’s “everything” goes as if there was no second Maidan, God forbid of course. smile
  25. +3
    2 February 2017 11: 53
    Our milkmen will calmly and themselves begin to drive milk powder.
  26. +3
    2 February 2017 11: 53
    Srendil Rygoritch, lost a sense of reality. And it does this when the merikos cookies are no longer baking, only continue to occupy the troops of Eastern Europe. Well, there is no man who would explain to him the disposition?
  27. +9
    2 February 2017 11: 53
    Something recently often remembered

    And "Old Man" is a special case.

    Essential if this material is true
    1. 0
      2 February 2017 12: 45
      I thought a lot, I think God and Reason are one and the same. That is, depriving Reason deprives itself.
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 22: 39
        This is explained in ALL religious works, moreover, in plain text!
  28. +3
    2 February 2017 11: 55
    Enraged dad. Well, the flag in his jo ..., I'm sorry, in your arms!
  29. +5
    2 February 2017 11: 56
    Lukashenka tore off the roof ... However ...Independence is the whole complex of the state’s life, from politics and ideology to finance and economics. If the leadership of Belarus decided to take this path, by embarking on the path of the “economic war”, then this development strategy of the Belarusian state will not cause any questions.
  30. +6
    2 February 2017 11: 58
    To stop deliveries until they pay off debts, and if they leave the EAEU and the CSTO, they will die. This and Luka must understand. So no need to clatter with him
    1. +1
      3 February 2017 11: 25
      Oh well, and die?)))
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  32. +9
    2 February 2017 12: 00
    are Belarusians there? can express their point of view? they will talk about the mood of people, the police, the army.
    curious.
    1. +12
      2 February 2017 12: 09
      Mood ex. only among security officials and officials. The rest live as they can. Who is good, who is bad. Everyone has different points of view. I quarrel with the Russians, I think no one has the desire, but the border between our countries is too much. But it will be seen what will happen next).
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 12: 23
        Decent answer. Someone believes that this is only Lukashenko blackmailing Putin, but not vice versa. Belarusians definitely have no desire to quarrel with the Russians. But this does not mean that they can be blackmailed by this dependence on the Russian market. We do not know the details of the negotiations. And if they knew, then what?
        That's just without tantrums. I agree that “who is who” will be seen later.
        1. +3
          2 February 2017 12: 34
          But this does not mean that they can be blackmailed by this dependence on the Russian market.


          to get a market - to make concessions. this is how things are going. And you write about patronage. That Russia should open the market and in return also have different conditions

          It is time to land an independent tsar - for in fact the independence is only of the good will of the Russian Federation.

          1. +2
            2 February 2017 19: 41
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            It is time to land an independent tsar - for in fact the independence is only of the good will of the Russian Federation.
            Is the Independent Tsar Lukashenko? And Putin and Chubais are democratic rulers? Are you aware of negotiations on the price of oil for Belarus and the price of its transportation through Belarus? Are you aware of other economic relations between our countries?
            If yes, then lay out the facts. If not, then ...
            If the attitude of Russians to Belarusians in proportion to their own matches the comments on this site, then I will not be surprised that more and more Belarusians will turn away from Russia. The twenty first century in the yard. Imperial manners, like colonial relations, no longer correspond to time. Trading is not dictating. An ally is not the one who immediately takes off his pants at the slightest shout from the owner.
      2. +3
        2 February 2017 14: 22
        Busting is all shantrap without visas to let in and the border is the right answer to this.
    2. +11
      2 February 2017 12: 48
      We have more than 40 million police in Poland. The fact that we have long been aware of krants in the economy Belarusians are very calm, so many wars have passed through their lands, all who raised their heads, were slaughtered. They use it. We cannot survive without Russia, they know it. But the current system will drive wherever it wants; There will be no Donbass of its own.
      Here they often talk about the lessons of Ukraine. That's interesting, but Russia has mastered its lessons in Ukraine? Or decided to hand over their historical lands? Or are the green men over?
      I know, it’s insulting to you to tears, believe me worse, I have all the brothers in you in Russia, I’m of universal age, children, I well know how this is with the Ukrainians.
      So again, Russian Vani will have to do everything, I want to howl at the thought of handing it over in Ukraine, although I definitely understand that there was no other way in Ukraine. A hungry stomach contributes very well to the brain. But those who decide have not become less.
      And yet, these antics were visible for a long time, if you hadn’t prepared yet. Something like this.
    3. +3
      2 February 2017 12: 56
      I don’t understand why the left infa from Regnum caused such turbulence of shit. Regnum is a lamp of truthfulness? wassat
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 13: 04
        it is seething for the second day on all resources in the Russian Federation
      2. +2
        2 February 2017 20: 21
        Quote: Slon_on
        I don’t understand why the left infa from Regnum caused such turbulence of shit. Regnum is a lamp of truthfulness?

        Because after "ATO is a warrior for independence," we will not be surprised at anything. He crossed the line and in Moscow they understood it.
      3. 0
        3 February 2017 11: 27
        armagitprom taxis wink
  33. +4
    2 February 2017 12: 00
    Well, then, if Lukashenko wants to turn his country into a banana republic, the flag in his hands.
    1. +5
      2 February 2017 13: 12
      Belarus is already an almost banana republic with a murdered industry, beggarly salaries of $ 100-200, high prices and a parasitism tax, which requires money from the unemployed.
  34. +7
    2 February 2017 12: 01
    In general, the Ukrainian scenario of the 2000s is repeated. The current war was preceded by a gas war. But father sat quietly until the crisis pecked. Looks like a squeeze, since he behaved like that. I honestly do not know the layouts of how real and fair the price that is written in the contract is. I only know that father is certainly cunning, but do not forget about our oil gas oligarchs and other "national treasures" Take a look at the price tags at gas stations. That is, to take and stop paying like Belarusians is bad. But twisting their hands is no better. Moreover, our people will not see this money anyway, but they will receive a new enemy, as they already received hoh ... sorry Ukraintsy. A familiar Armenian said: “States when they want something, for example, they pay a base. But they say you pay a little, you want everything from friendship.” Disgusting position, but it is a reality. So with such a course that we have the dump of Belarus - a matter of time. Yes, and the Eurasian Economic Community, not having time to be born, is bursting at the seams. And if there is no common market, then there will be no currency of it (in currency, the market is needed for self-sufficiency). If it goes as sad as it is now, we will continue to sit on the dollar needle. Which, in general, is quite comfortable with our pro-American globalist government and the oligarchs. I suspect that for this they provoke oil and gas wars with neighbors.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 12: 35
      reluctantly Today, 12:01 New
      In general, the Ukrainian scenario of the 2000s is repeated. The current war was preceded by a gas war. But father sat quietly until the crisis pecked. Looks like a squeeze, since he behaved like that. I honestly do not know the layouts of how real and fair the price that is written in the contract is. I only know that father is certainly cunning, but do not forget about our oil gas oligarchs and other "national treasures" Take a look at the price tags at gas stations. That is, to take and stop paying like Belarusians is bad. But twisting their hands is no better. Moreover, our people will not see this money anyway, but they will receive a new enemy, as they already received hoh ... sorry Ukraintsy. A familiar Armenian said: “States when they want something, for example, they pay a base. But they say you pay a little, you want everything from friendship.” Disgusting position, but it is a reality. So with such a course that we have the dump of Belarus - a matter of time. Yes, and the Eurasian Economic Community, not having time to be born, is bursting at the seams. And if there is no common market, then there will be no currency of it (in currency, the market is needed for self-sufficiency). If it goes as sad as it is now, we will continue to sit on the dollar needle. Which, in general, is quite comfortable with our pro-American globalist government and the oligarchs. I suspect that for this they provoke oil and gas wars with neighbors.


      I agree with your not very pleasant conclusions, dear "reluctant"!
      The development of RF-RB relations, alas, in many respects resembles RF-RU relations in the 2000s. In Ukraine, it ended with Maidan under American leadership, and a civil war on the border with New Russia. At this time, and given Lukashenko’s constant evacuation in matters of prices and trade, the prospects for RF-RB relations are so far dangerous.
      Although, as others have written here, the Russian oligarchs, Belarusian partners, are not particularly favored, they strip off wherever they can.
      Well, as for the friendship of the peoples of “Russians and Belarusians” and the “Belarusian bastion” on the western border of Russia, here, alas, in my opinion it is extremely simple: Russia will not want to pay for the friendship of Belarusians, the West will quickly agree to pay for the friendship of Belarusians with Europe and the USA! So the threat of repeating the Ukrainian scenario, with or without Maidan, is very great!
      Indeed, in the 2000s or 2010s, one of us could imagine the Maidan in 2013-2014. and the current fratricidal war in Donetsk and Lugansk? But as we all see, people perish and the war continues, and when the “ATO”, according to Ukrainian concepts, is over, it’s too early to guess.
      The same Trump, even if he wants to improve relations with Russia, then as an entrepreneur he will do this only "for something in exchange or for payment"that Russia itself may later come out sideways ?!
      Friends in the West from Russia NEVER BEEN and NO!
    2. +3
      2 February 2017 12: 36
      Take a look at the price tags at gas stations.


      about $ 0,5



      expensive gasoline? It’s cheaper to buy a donkey then a car.

      Moreover, our people still will not see this money, but they will receive a new enemy


      rave.

      So with such a course that we have the dump of Belarus - a matter of time.


      I think that the sooner Belarusians understand that independence is a clowning in their case, the faster it will return home

      “When the states want something, the base, for example, is paid. But you say they pay little, you all want friendships”


      we pay little for our own roof of Armenia from neighbors?)

      If it goes as sad as it is now, we will continue to sit on the dollar needle.


      recourse



      1. +3
        2 February 2017 14: 20
        With a salary in Germany of an average of 300000 rubles, and with us, 20000 rubles, as now, is expensive or not.
        1. +2
          2 February 2017 14: 27
          Well then, let's get a communal apartment like in Germany, and calculate the taxes, the cost of housing and life in general (kindergartens, a hospital, a car tax)

          It is naive to think that there is cosmos and then despondency. The standard of living is higher - well, under Germany the EU (500 million people is the market) - and under us Belarus (+ 8 million to our market) even as it turns out, no laughing

          so you just have to be objective and take into account many factors - and not pull the salary figures and blame them

          PS The figure about gasoline was shown to the fact that someone does not triple the price. I showed that it is the lowest in Europe
        2. +2
          2 February 2017 16: 22
          Fans of Europe love their salaries as an example. You bring the prices, cost of living.

          This is probably the German average rich man with a salary of 300000000000000 ...... rub? laughing

    3. +2
      2 February 2017 22: 44
      Those. do you think - to give them oil and gas and all a bunch? And the mug does not crack ?!
  35. +1
    2 February 2017 12: 03
    I’ll be given some stupidity. All the ties to Russia - try to dump and fill up the country. Well, more likely, they’ll figure it out with gas.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 17: 21
      That's about the same thing I thought when the fuss in Ukraine began.
  36. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 05
    Old Man in his repertoire, trying to sit on 2 stools. He should understand that no matter how friendly he is with Europe, if pro-Western forces come to power, he will become a sacred victim. Probably, this will happen in more peaceful tones than with Gaddafi, but he will definitely be on the bunk.
  37. +5
    2 February 2017 12: 06
    ..the mustachioed honey has completely turned brown already.
  38. +11
    2 February 2017 12: 06
    A rare paskuda “Father”. The whole economy is kept at the expense of Russia, free tranches, discounts on energy resources, a sales market, duty-free trade, what else? What else is needed for normal friendly relations, as they introduced sanctions against us, he first started shouting that you need to look for other partners, who the hell needs your bulb besides Russia? Who will give you money, the only dictator of Europe, as he was called by the Western media, this friendship of peoples is too expensive for Russia. And what do we have? Besides talking about the great friendship of peoples?
  39. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 06
    Well, Regnum blundered, I’ll wait for the official what
    1. +2
      2 February 2017 12: 42
      Quote: perepilka
      Well, Regnum blundered, I’ll wait for the official

      It is just that a meeting between Putin and Lukashenko is coming soon and apparently the stuffing is used to probe each other's reaction to harsh statements. I think it’s not going to extremes.

      A meeting between the presidents of Russia and Belarus, Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko, can take place in the first half of February in Moscow. Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed to Izvestia that such a meeting is planned, and that the agenda includes the issue of energy cooperation between the two countries.
      The apparatus of the Union State Standing Committee reported that a meeting of the leaders of Russia and Belarus is in preparation, but the exact date of the meeting has not yet been agreed. Russia, as the host country, suggested holding it on February 9, but Belarus has not yet given its confirmation. The press service of the Embassy of Belarus in the Russian Federation added that information on the final date has not yet been received from Minsk.
      Earlier it was reported that Minsk’s debt for gas supplied from the Russian Federation is about $ 550 million. Debt has been accumulating since January 2016, when Belarus demanded a reduction in the cost of raw materials and unilaterally decided to pay less. It was assumed that before the end of the year the parties will agree. However, Minsk asked for additional concessions, and as a result, the countries did not agree.
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 12: 47
        that Minsk’s debt for gas supplied from Russia is about $ 550 million.


        zenith arena cost more wassat

        funny - for some country this is the last money - in a country it’s one of many projects (though expensive and stealing)



        1. +3
          2 February 2017 12: 58
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          zenith arena cost more

          Looking at what to consider, it is possible in unfinished kindergartens, schools, hospitals, in kilometers of unfinished roads, it is possible in Armaty, S-400, SU-35. How closer to anyone.
          1. 0
            2 February 2017 16: 57
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            How closer to anyone.

            A brother-in-law in Belarus, native and only, with his wife, daughters and granddaughters, much closer request
  40. +4
    2 February 2017 12: 08
    The freedom-loving people of Belarus decide for themselves what is good for him and what he needs, if you want to go out for God's sake, go. the main thing is not to regret it later.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 13: 51
      Quote: antikilller55
      The freedom-loving people of Belarus decide for themselves what is good for him and what he needs, if you want to go out for God's sake, go. the main thing is not to regret it later.
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 13: 52
        Yes, the main thing is where to go and how.
  41. +6
    2 February 2017 12: 10
    Such an ally friend, worse than a dozen fierce enemies! It's time to put it in its place, and cut off from the "freebie nipples"!
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 12: 35
      And to whom should Luke be an ally? Dvorkovich? Chubais? Sechin? Why such a fright? Speeching too superficially. And the devil is in the details.
  42. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 11
    Lukashenko must understand that his country will turn into a limitroph without industry, like the former countries of the eastern bloc, and some republics. Mb with new trends from across the ocean decided that they will agree with him. hardly eaten up. The consequences of the Gorbachev perestroika, the hollow Tryndets, the brainless top did not have a goal or a strategy, here is the result. The "bloodless" collapse turned out to be a delayed conflict.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 13: 56
      The countries of the former eastern bloc entered the EU, but they won’t take the dad there, but let them take it for me, you don’t show off there, I want, I don’t want to.
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 16: 51
        Perhaps expects to repeat the experience of Singapore, comrade LiQuanYu, a pro-Western, tough hand that succeeded.
  43. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 12
    Yes, let them go, but how much can you bargain, and the path of Mubarak will be shorter
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  45. +9
    2 February 2017 12: 24
    Quote: Max Otto
    Well, a little Belarus would have earned a few million dollars in oil, no one would have died, much less oil, there’s nothing special to hunch over, it is a gift from the Earth. No damn, what kind of hee you sold more than we allowed?
    A couple of million ???????????????? Russia subsidized Belarus over 25 years for almost 100 billion evergreens ........
  46. +4
    2 February 2017 12: 24
    You can not knock out the chairman of the collective farm from the chairman of the collective farm
  47. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 25
    He always considered Lukashenka a slippery burbot with the abilities of a good collective farm chairman, who could not see anything further than his central estate. He simply decided to blackmail Moscow to wrinkle preferences once again.
  48. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 26
    How it all got fed up: the war is on the verge, and they change processes and think that they will be given a good life in the West after the occupation.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 12: 57
      Sorry, typo: measured by processes ...
  49. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 27
    Probably father promised something very tasty ... For no reason, he does nothing. That's interesting what they promised. Is the quota for the supply of Belarusian agricultural products to the EU? Or a quota for equipment? Hardly. Lukashenko was not at all and never looked like him, unlike the Ukrainian political monkey. Belarus, or rather its modern economy, can exist only in economic conjunction with Russia, as well as Ukraine and even the hot Baltic tigers. Either in the current semi-Union state, not too rocking, or like the rest, "against Russia, at the expense of Russia." Apparently, the Old Man knows what we can only guess about and get into bouts of conspiracy theories. Perhaps we are talking about some changes in the leadership of the Russian Federation and a correction towards the final return of Russia to the pro-Western track ...
  50. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 28
    Quote: Winnie76
    Quote: Tiksi-3
    the Kremlin looters are to blame here .... they profiled Ukraine, now they profound Belarusians

    What do you think should be "kremleputy" so as not to "profo" Belarusians. Non-repayable loans in time to give when Belarusians run out of money? Or silently swallow all the fun stuff like smuggling, uncoordinated entry of visa-free, "support" in the international arena. Or maybe buy products from Belarusians to the detriment of their own producers? Won't crack?

    I agree with your comment. You need to be friends, but on an equal footing. And it turns out they gave money to friends, then we’re friends, no enemies. For example, we have 130 g. Of their Glubinsky condensed milk and 69 g.
  51. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 30
    Flag in hand!!!
    We'll see you in 20 years.
  52. +7
    2 February 2017 12: 30
    Quote: caa
    He is in some strange, sophisticated measure - a patriot. Surprisingly. But his mistake is fatal in that he does not follow his surroundings. They already have SO MUCH means and resources, which, I am afraid, at the critical moment it will no longer determine the fateful decisions.

    Like GDP, which, in my opinion, has already played too much with foreign policy and does not see what is happening inside the country, how its surroundings are disinterested
  53. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 32
    The point here is a clash of personal ambitions between representatives of the Kremlin and Minsk elite. Personal, not even particularly corporate. Let’s put aside the topic of sanctioned products from Belarus. This topic came up quite recently. And the topic of oil and gas has always been on the Russian-Belarusian agenda. And the essence of this topic is now simple: in Russia, the oil and gas lobby can twist the hands of the population as it wants, as long as Putin is allowed to indulge in “Petrine’s amusements” - we ourselves are joking, saying that oil prices are rising - gasoline is becoming more expensive, oil prices are falling - gasoline It's getting more expensive even faster. But Old Man doesn’t want to live like that. He doesn’t want to live according to this scheme. And he goes too far in particulars, in response, taking advantage of the status of the head of a REALLY INDEPENDENT state. In a narrow sense, the problem is Father’s whim, and not entirely unfounded. In a broad sense, the problem is the constant desire of Putin’s oil and gas “boyars” to impose on Belarus the same political and economic model as on the whole of Russia. Belarus will not survive without Russia, but without WHAT Russia, that is the question.
    1. +3
      2 February 2017 13: 17
      Yes, yes. And this is also a factor. Lukashenko was the locomotive of integration when Russia was formally ruled by a well-known person with alcoholism and related diseases. Benya was a weak ataman, and under favorable conditions, if the project of a unified state had been pushed through, the old man could easily beat Yeltsin, which was a direct threat to the Russian oligarchy, which Putin literally saved. After a series of media showdowns and personal confrontation between the two presidents, the situation stabilized and a positional economic war began. The Old Man pushed through economic preferences beneficial to Belarus, and our oligarchy from time to time tried to bite off the most delicious pieces of the Belarusian economy, especially in the transit sector, and regularly received a slap on the wrist from Lukashenka for this. This state of affairs could not help but affect relations at the interstate level, and now we see another aggravation, most likely completely burying all integration projects.
    2. +1
      2 February 2017 16: 27
      It’s interesting to know what sort of arm-twisting we’re talking about regarding gas for Belarus? it is sold at domestic prices; shrimp are an indicator of decency in relationships. M.B. It’s a similar story for gas, we just don’t know. and ours are clear stumps, not angels, both are good.
  54. +4
    2 February 2017 12: 33
    Yes, let it roll in all four directions. I feel sorry for the people. Some people grabbed Euro-democracy, but at the very least, “I don’t want to.” The same will happen with Belarus. Father has long since gone astray; he no longer knows what he wants. And we... we need to ignore all this... nonsense, let them go and crawl back on their hands and knees. Why do they live? Because Russia forgives everything and provides everyone without exception for free. Bros......ovs!!! Hurry up cola!
  55. +4
    2 February 2017 12: 35
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    No wonder the border with Belarus began to build!

    Alexander III
    In the whole world we have only 2 faithful allies - our army and navy. Everyone else, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.
    ------------
    unfortunately nothing has changed yet
    .
    1. +5
      2 February 2017 12: 50
      Quote: Aland
      In the whole world we have only 2 faithful allies - our army and navy. Everyone else, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.


      Absolutely right. This became clear when none of the “allies” supported us in the war of “888” or recognized South Ossetia or Abkhazia. I'm not even talking about Crimea and Donbass. So it’s time to remember this once and for all. And when conducting important negotiations in Minsk or Astana, they first of all think about their “international image,” which in the end they don’t know how they will manage, but not about Russia’s assistance.
    2. +2
      2 February 2017 12: 52
      This is where I disagree with you. We were always the first to take the blow and in any case we never threw. People have no money, but we are holding on. and we will not go anywhere from here in Russia.
      1. +7
        2 February 2017 13: 02
        Did they ask people in Ukraine, Bulgaria and other “brotherly” countries a lot of things when they sent them against Russia? Everywhere is controlled by a purchased aggressive minority. That's the whole "union". And the people remain silent because they are buried in their personal and everyday problems.
      2. +1
        2 February 2017 14: 05
        The legend is fresh, but it’s getting harder and harder to believe.
      3. +3
        2 February 2017 16: 29
        20 years of washing and Ukraine is Bandera, they say there, they are betting on “Litvinian” identity. Adults will have doubts; the state will raise children if they wish, sozh. I recently talked with a Ukrainian, he seems to be a sane person, but the “communes” are already enemies and Bandera is a hero, a freedom fighter. Since 91 he has changed his views, which is not surprising; young people say they hate the Russian Federation without exception. what to break it with?
  56. 0
    2 February 2017 12: 36
    oh Luka! he’ll jump!
  57. +9
    2 February 2017 12: 36
    We lost Ukraine, we are losing Belarus, Kazakhstan is next, Nazarbayev is not 18 years old there either, so we congratulate Putin on his brilliant foreign policy, for which everyone likes to praise him on this site, out of 15 republics of the USSR, Russia has influence on 3-4 states and that’s for an account without limited access for migrants to the country preserves this loyalty, once again a brilliant foreign policy, but says nothing internally.
    1. +6
      2 February 2017 13: 42
      Quote: ShM05
      We lost Ukraine, we are losing Belarus, Kazakhstan is next, Nazarbayev is not 18 years old there either, so we congratulate Putin on his brilliant foreign policy, for which everyone likes to praise him on this site, out of 15 republics of the USSR, Russia has influence on 3-4 states and that’s for an account without limited access for migrants to the country preserves this loyalty, once again a brilliant foreign policy, but says nothing internally.

      What do you think we should do?, kiss the Old Man on the ass because he makes gasoline and diesel fuel from free oil and supplies it to Petyunya at preferential prices for the ATO?? Or should they give Lukashevich another 100500 million for the fact that he has not supported Russia in anything for 25 years? Or because the authorities are putting pressure on the militias who returned from Novorossiya, but the nationalists and other scum who killed people in the South-East feel at ease (they are even treated in hospitals at the expense of the state), to erect a monument to him (Old Man) on Red Square?
      So tell us what to do so that Old Man will have mercy and stop being stupid??????
      1. Mwg
        +6
        2 February 2017 14: 25
        It was not we who lost Ukraine, but the Ukrainians. All citizens of this country have lost their homeland. Now they are not free citizens, but a living force attached to the land and property of the local oligarchy. If they are satisfied with this situation - yes please. And those who are not satisfied with it - they transferred to Russia, and those who did not transfer, will transfer.
        If Lukashenko follows the path of Ukraine - yes, please. It will be the same as the neighbors. I feel sorry for people, yes. How can we help them from here? If they come to ask for citizenship, we will not refuse.
        My opinion.
      2. +3
        2 February 2017 14: 28
        If the standard of living in Russia were at least at the level of the Czech Republic and Italy, then neighboring peoples would be drawn to Russia. The peoples of neighboring republics, seeing the standard of living of Russia and the EU, are striving to join the EU.
        1. +7
          2 February 2017 15: 56
          Excuse me, but who will pay for this banquet.... uh... the standard of living is like in the Czech Republic and Italy? What kind of nonsense is this Maidan? They also stood for the “European association” and thought... “now... that’s it... let’s sign and we’ll celebrate like in the Czech Republic and Italy.” I don’t even understand what kind of nonsense people are talking about when they talk about the standard of living. No one will do for you what you must do yourself! Nobody! This is an axiom. There are exceptions, but this is usually “cheese in the trap”. I make my own standard of living, to the extent of my abilities and skills, no one owes me anything, just as I don’t owe anyone anything. And no one is trying to annex the “peoples of the neighboring republics” to Russia; what the hell, we’ve had enough of these “annexations” and we still can’t sort it out. If you want to join the EU, pick up the flag! But, advice, a smart person learns from the mistakes of others, and du....r...a.k - exclusively from his own: look what happened to the countries of the former socialist. bloc and the Baltic states that joined the EU, what happened to their economy, and at whose expense they now live. And what will happen if this “account” is closed.
          1. 0
            2 February 2017 20: 47
            Did I say that the EU will help us and we need to join there? With such an antisocial budget as in Russia, there will be no development. For comparison, the consolidated budget of Russia (Federal budget + regional budgets) is 400 billion dollars, and the budget of Germany is 1500 billion dollars, the budget of France is 1300 billion dollars, the budget of Great Britain is 1000 billion dollars.
          2. +4
            2 February 2017 23: 17
            Well, I’m talking about the same thing - we, in short, in Russia “must” create a standard of living like in the Czech Republic and Italy, and only then our neighbors will come to us to take advantage of the built standard of living... Sorry, of course, haven't you gone completely nuts?! The greyhound is unparalleled! And what’s wrong with our level - we build bridges, we hold Olympics-Universiades-Championships (including the World Football Championships). They even “bought” a multiple Olympic champion in short track speed skating. A bunch of European clubs belong to our people. What can I say, they bought the votes of half of the Americans for Trump’s victory in the elections! And you whistle at us for our standard of living. If you want a standard of living, do it! I don’t think that anyone did anything to the same Italians... But I’m also sure that if there were no sanctions against Russia (and, accordingly, counter-sanctions), the Italians would have lived better... By the way, the Italians almost the only ones who left the prices (at least in my area - automatic) regardless of the changed exchange rate of the euro to the ruble - 1:40 (!)
            Something like this ...
        2. +1
          4 February 2017 18: 08
          Quote: Social Democrat
          If the standard of living in Russia were at least at the level of the Czech Republic and Italy, then neighboring peoples would be drawn to Russia. The peoples of neighboring republics, seeing the standard of living of Russia and the EU, are striving to join the EU.

          This song is old. Change the manual or provide official statistical figures that prove this point of view...
    2. 0
      2 February 2017 16: 37
      Quote: ShM05
      We lost Ukraine, we are losing Belarus, Kazakhstan is next in line

      What can we do if their leadership supports the nationalists?
  58. +1
    2 February 2017 12: 39
    Am I the only one who thinks that if Yanukovych had been allowed to repeat the fate of Gaddafi, many would now sit and remain silent?
    Truly good intentions... what
    1. +5
      2 February 2017 12: 52
      According to a survey in Kyiv, now 90% of Ukrainians would like Yanukovych to return! But the sykuns sit and remain silent below the grass - above the water! Where is your Maidan-3 if life has become many times worse than under Yanuca and where are the Gilyaks for Potros? Are you pissing? so keep your mouth shut, Poras is not Yanyk, he will immediately cut you to the root and will not be afraid of blood, his chocolate is more valuable to him!
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 13: 25
        Well, there were dissatisfied people under Stalin too...they also pissed off...the grandparents of most of those who write such heresy...
        1. +2
          2 February 2017 16: 11
          Just 90%... well, okay, at least 30% were dissatisfied under Stalin? Rave! Stalin was dissatisfied at the level of statistical error - mainly those whose property was nationalized by the Soviet government in the 20s, criminals and dissident traitors.
          1. 0
            2 February 2017 23: 13
            90% want the return of Yanukovych - this is such a button accordion that I won’t even discuss it...30%? Well, let's count: Trotskyists, all former participants in the communist movement with the exception of the Bolsheviks, former kulaks, many former cultural and scientific figures and all those who did not die during the civil war “on the other side of the barricades”, those who from the privileged citizens of the country began to be called disparagingly "intelligentsia" (doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc...), as well as the western part of Ukraine after the annexation, perhaps some clans in Central Asia, smugglers, a little later all the "Yezhovites", part of the military leadership of the top and middle levels were convicted and executed Yezhov, (but who thought that it was all done by a hedgehog, the families of those executed hated Stalin anyway, with rare exceptions), some of the believers...maybe 5-10%... never set out to calculate how many hated him, but I think quite a lot... because fear often becomes a source of hatred... especially powerless fear... and many were afraid of it. feared and respected by certainly 99% of the country, in what proportion I don’t know....
  59. +1
    2 February 2017 12: 39
    the campaign infringed on sovereignty, I was offended... hi
  60. 0
    2 February 2017 12: 40
    Better a terrible end than horror without end.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 14: 10
      And then what?
      1. +3
        2 February 2017 18: 22
        And then Belarus should be allowed to live on its own. To have something to compare with. As events show, any good relations and assistance are regarded by the former republics of the Union as weakness. There is no need to show excessive force. But there is no need to show weakness. Neutrality and prepayment for everything. They started talking about money, well, they shouldn't have done that. The market is a market, profit - which means this word needs to be remembered. It will become really bad - you will regret it brotherly. Help only on strict conditions.
        Let's tell ourselves - both Ukraine and Belarus are Russia. Which the local pseudo-elites fought among themselves. Do we need these pseudo-elites? No. Do we need degenerates and parasites? Also no. Let's wait for these parasites to die out. It is useless to solve their problems for them.
  61. 0
    2 February 2017 12: 43
    Official Minsk should not ignore such “interesting” information, even if not from a state information source. If official denials do not follow in the near future, then it is not in vain that the smoke is billowing.
  62. +1
    2 February 2017 12: 45
    drinks They pulled it up. Stop publishing fake news.
  63. +1
    2 February 2017 12: 46
    Leave the union, their right! You just need to warn us right away that later the path to Russia to obtain political asylum will be closed for Lukashenko! West is so west!
  64. +2
    2 February 2017 12: 46
    For God's sake. I am generally against the Russian Federation’s membership in such organizations, from which the Russian Federation has only expenses, but no profit.
  65. +3
    2 February 2017 12: 47
    Something unhealthy is happening. Is this when we were without Russians? It's very difficult for us now. But considering what we are going through now, it is not at all clear what will happen. If only Russia wouldn’t leave us to our mercy now. Only Russians are dearer than Russians. Some kind of bullshit.
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 13: 04
      And who isn’t having a hard time right now? Russia is also under sanctions and we won’t moan about anything! A freebie is pleasant for everyone, but you also need to have a conscience. Belarus doesn’t supply its goods to Russia for free, but wants to make money, so why are the graters coming to Russia or aren’t people living here!?
    2. Mwg
      +3
      2 February 2017 14: 15
      What's happening? They are merging Belarus, that’s what’s happening. No one cheated you or was going to cheat you, especially Russia. It’s just that your leadership in this difficult time does not want to lose income, no matter what, and is ready to risk relations with Russia for the sake of personal interests. But you won’t be nice by force. Only there is a very recent example of how fraternal relations with Russia are abandoned and what begins to happen in the country after this - our common neighbor Ukraine. There is no European Union. The economy crumbled. Robberies, murders, seizure of property. Rising prices. The collapse of the public service system. And who is to blame? Russia, or what?
      My opinion.
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 23: 05
        The whole difference is that we are not Ukraine, we are Belarusians!!!! History has nothing in common with the Nazis! We have stood and will stand with our breasts! And I hope what’s happening won’t last for long and it’s all a big multi-step (I hope). Since 2014, I have been buying only products from the Russian Federation and Belarus in the store. And only the Krasnodar Territory and Crimea are on vacation. Then God be with him. But at home and calmly. We were always greeted like family. Thanks brothers!
  66. +6
    2 February 2017 12: 48

    but seriously, Lukashenko is the most cunning little Russian in the CIS
    As long as he’s in power, he twists his hands so much, he won’t get anywhere, but he’ll fray his nerves
  67. +1
    2 February 2017 13: 01
    Who offended father? Angry face. Give him oil and gas. There are no fossils in Belarus sad
    1. +5
      2 February 2017 13: 06
      he said he has everything he has, but he needs to dig deep!
      1. +1
        2 February 2017 14: 50
        Then if you push yourself hard, you can get to oil and gas smile
        1. +2
          2 February 2017 16: 39
          They already ship it to him at domestic prices. as the experience of Ukraine has shown - no guarantees in return
    2. +2
      2 February 2017 13: 10
      Most likely, another stuffing staged by our enemies from abroad and carried out by the local “fifth column” to incite distrust and, in the future, hatred towards our brothers Belarusians, as was previously done in Ukraine.
      And all this is orchestrated by the United States and the Israeli regime, trying to create a quarrel among the Slavic peoples and, in the future, to get rid of Ukraine and Belarus and then Russia.
      1. +3
        2 February 2017 13: 14
        Probably not.
      2. +4
        2 February 2017 13: 43
        Judging by the way the dad hugged Parashenko and called him a friend and supported him in every possible way in the fight for “independence” and promised all-round help, you can expect everything from him and when he swears his love to us, at this time he keeps a fig in his pocket.
      3. +1
        2 February 2017 14: 22
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Most likely, another stuffing staged by our enemies from abroad and carried out by the local “fifth column” to incite distrust and, in the future, hatred towards our brothers Belarusians, as was previously done in Ukraine.
        And all this is orchestrated by the United States and the Israeli regime, trying to create a quarrel among the Slavic peoples and, in the future, to get rid of Ukraine and Belarus and then Russia.

        Everything is very prosaic. The United States and Israel have nothing to do with this stuffing. This is the work of Regnum, who has been driving wedges between Belarus and Russia for many years. In whose interests this agency works has long been known. If anyone is interested, google who created Regnum and whose interests he lobbies.
        1. 0
          2 February 2017 19: 08
          Quote: KP8789
          The United States and Israel have nothing to do with this stuffing.

          Yes, behind all these Regnum Echoes of Moscow and other Censors, the “long ears” of the CIA and Mossad are visible
          1. 0
            3 February 2017 11: 39
            Ha ha... Is it really the Mossad?)))
            You were advised above... Google it....
  68. +1
    2 February 2017 13: 02
    Every year I became more and more impudent.
  69. +4
    2 February 2017 13: 06
    Explain to me why every first commenter blames Lukashenko for the fact that Belarus supplies sanctioned products?
    Let's look at the situation:
    Russia, without agreement with its CU partners, introduces a ban on the import of products
    At that time, there were no customs officers, veterinary or phytocontrol on the border of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, and anyone could import goods sanctioned by the Russian Federation into Belarus.
    What do you think Lukashenko should have done? Send your representatives to all private and other enterprises in Belarus (manufacturing, transport, etc.) so that they can monitor where the sanctions are going next? What if, according to the documents, it is in transit to Kazakhstan? Or should we be concerned about the return of various regulatory authorities to the border with the Russian Federation? Does he need it, these extra body movements?
    Russia has imposed sanctions, even if Russia exercises control.
    1. +6
      2 February 2017 13: 19
      Quote: arlekin
      What do you think Lukashenko should have done? Send your representatives to all private and other enterprises in Belarus (manufacturing, transport, etc.) so that they can monitor where the sanctions are going next?

      let's not turn on the fool
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 13: 55
        It's not about turning on the fool. The problem is the looseness of the EAEU and the imbalance of politics and economics. The commentator above simply pointed out the many discrepancies in the economic interests of the participating countries. Russia is under sanctions and counter-sanctions. Belarus and Kazakhstan do not. Is the role of a transit country beneficial for Belarus? Without a doubt. Russian sanctions and counter-sanctions are a headache only and only for Russia. Therefore, the fight against sanctions must be carried out by Russia itself, without shifting it to partners for whom it is obviously unprofitable. What prevents, for example, Russian retail chains from being punished with real rubles for selling goods from sanctioned manufacturers? After all, demand for sanctions creates supply. And so, by all logic, it turns out that the fight against this problem was stupidly transferred to the Belarusians. Do they need it? Or maybe it was still worth it, at least for now not to aggravate the contradictions with the Belarusians?
        1. +4
          2 February 2017 14: 37
          Quote: libivs
          Is the role of a transit country beneficial for Belarus? Without a doubt. Russian sanctions and counter-sanctions are a headache only and only for Russia. Therefore, the fight against sanctions must be carried out by Russia itself.

          the question is not who and what, but that Lukashenko is also an idiot and is engaged in REEXPORT and not transit, and these are slightly different things
      2. +1
        2 February 2017 23: 24
        Without switching on, the fool doesn't get cold. Although, it seems, with the inclusion now too...
  70. +2
    2 February 2017 13: 32
    I thought they became wiser with age, but with dad it’s the other way around: the older he gets, the dumber he gets.
    1. 0
      2 February 2017 14: 45
      All people. It's different for everyone. Sometimes I notice myself.
  71. +3
    2 February 2017 13: 39
    I see Ukraine doesn’t teach anything, both yours and ours, and then run to Rostov, where will this one run, to Smolensk? fool
  72. +2
    2 February 2017 13: 39
    Oh, fool! It’s easy to break all ties with Russia, but then what? Where are they waiting for him and his products? Where will you get free raw materials? In Europe? Yeah, how many people have been pouring into that place over there? And what good came to them?
  73. +2
    2 February 2017 13: 43
    Due to the emerging trend for used tires to become more expensive in the Republic of Belarus, I will sell tires to Belarusians, inexpensively!!
    1. 0
      2 February 2017 14: 26
      Buy it for yourself brain. You need him more. laughing
      1. +4
        2 February 2017 15: 15
        I got my brain by nature, I’m not complaining. But lately a lot of bad news has been coming from the “brotherly” republic. About 10 years ago, you would never have believed in what is happening now in Ukraine... So leave your insolence for the children's sandbox or for the grandmothers in line at the clinic. Although no, it’s better not to be insolent to the grandmothers in the hospital.....
        1. +1
          2 February 2017 15: 33
          This is not insolence. This is a reaction to a comment about tires. And are you so sure that Belarusians will need tires? Maybe keep it for a rainy day. Everything in our world is changing very quickly.
        2. +2
          2 February 2017 23: 26
          They will immediately swear at you and use a stick to mark a path to retreat.
  74. +1
    2 February 2017 13: 44
    Maybe he’s just bargaining, or maybe he’s very afraid of something. The world has been a bit turbulent lately.
  75. ZVS
    +1
    2 February 2017 13: 44
    Let's see how this exit turns out for Father. He will be the second Gaddafi.
    1. +2
      2 February 2017 13: 54
      It’s not about the dad that we need to worry about, it’s about the ordinary residents of Belarus, what these “dances with the fascists” might turn out to be for them.
  76. +2
    2 February 2017 13: 55
    The horse understands that the West needs to tear Belarus away from Russia. If dad follows the lead, there will be a second outskirts. It’s a pity that he doesn’t understand this himself; apparently the piece was too fatty for him. Well, our strategists are once again in deep cesspool
  77. +1
    2 February 2017 13: 57
    The Regnum agency reports that if Minsk really intends to make a decision to withdraw from the EAEU and the CSTO, then Moscow is not going to object.
    I’ll believe it if the official Kremlin says something like this. It’s possible to say something different, without citing official sources, so what not to say?
  78. 0
    2 February 2017 13: 59
    I hope that Putin has drawn the necessary conclusions about the hohland, and if only Belarus takes the Maidan and rocks the boat towards Geyropa, we will immediately send our troops there to crush the white-ribbon fifth column and prevent the reign of the Minsk junta of Russophobes.
    1. 0
      3 February 2017 11: 41
      Smart... just don't lose your panties...
      1. +1
        3 February 2017 13: 10
        I know that if the same thing happens in Minsk as in Kyiv, people like you will write here “oh, God, how can it be,” and secretly quietly laugh at the misfortune of RUSSIA.
        1. 0
          13 February 2017 16: 13
          The trouble for Russia is a trouble for all the states around it!
          No one benefits from the aggravation and intensity of passions in the post-Soviet space.
          No matter what, there is a piece that connects us all, no matter how much we hit the wall.
          It is in vain that people here speak disdainfully of the former republics of the union.
          And with all this, there is also an intention to recreate the union.
          I ask: After such statements, will anyone follow you?
          1. 0
            13 February 2017 17: 42
            Quote: MAGRIB
            I ask: After such statements, will anyone follow you?

            And where will they go - they either go to Geyropa with tolerance, refugees and the collapsing economy of the decaying EU, or to us, the younger brothers, so to speak laughing
            Your prospects are even sadder: either to be a privileged satellite of the new SOVIET EMPIRE, or to fall under Ergogan/ISIL/other bearded men.
  79. +2
    2 February 2017 14: 00
    Quote: SU
    Let's see how this exit turns out for Father. He will be the second Gaddafi.

    Gaddafi did not ask anyone for money; he himself supported almost a dozen African countries.
    1. +3
      2 February 2017 23: 28
      Gaddafi fell for friendly promises, as it turned out, “friendly”. I feel sorry for the man... I found someone to trust...
  80. +1
    2 February 2017 14: 01
    It seems to me that he was blown away by this.

    1 February 2017, 19: 21

    A border zone will be established on the borders of the Smolensk, Pskov and Bryansk regions with Belarus, Interfax reports with reference to the orders of the director of the Federal Security Service (FSB) Alexander Bortnikov, which were published on the legal information portal.
    It is noted that the border zone is established to “create the necessary conditions for protecting the state border of Russia.”

    According to the orders of the head of the FSB, regional departments in the Smolensk, Pskov and Bryansk regions will have to establish places and times for the entry and passage of persons, as well as for the entry of vehicles into the border zone and organize the installation of warning signs.

    PS
    Not a friend, not an enemy, but... for him the most accurate definition.
    And the most flattering characteristic: a suspicious type.
    1. +2
      2 February 2017 23: 31
      It’s just that the Republic of Belarus is introducing visa-free travel for 80 states, but THIS DOESN’T suit us. Therefore the border
  81. Mwg
    +2
    2 February 2017 14: 02
    “if Minsk really intends to make a decision to leave the EAEU and the CSTO” - in truth, no one wants to learn from someone else’s experience, everyone has their own rake. As they say, take the flag, only then don’t run to Moscow and ask for protection from the “revolutionaries.” Your life - your rules...
    1. +3
      2 February 2017 14: 43
      Guys, don’t you think that it’s not “Belarus” and “Russia” who are arguing about something, but something that our (Russian) “privatizers”, who grabbed all sorts of mineral resources, did not share with the same “privatizers” from Lukashenko’s entourage? . That is, I’m blown away when someone starts talking about “our gas”, “our oil”, ... Excuse me, whose gas and oil is it? Everything is in private sweaty hands. And the income probably doesn’t go into someone’s pocket and into yachts, mansions in London and for the maintenance of families and relatives abroad? A ? Incorrect on the maintenance of schools and hospitals in the Russian Federation? Seriously ? "But the men don't know!!!" Let's forget about “our mineral resources” and “national treasure”. It’s just that the shabby hucksters who settled next to the Kremlin because of greed (for cents and dollars) completely quarreled Russia with Ukraine, now for the same cents they are ready to hang themselves, but quarrel between Russia and Belarus. And the Belarusian Sechins and Abramovichs help a lot. I don’t believe that it is impossible to supply oil and gas to Belarus at domestic Russian prices, while stipulating a ban on resale. It's a matter of technology. But this would be a real help to the Belarusian industry. And an example for us to catch up with. But our hucksters are afraid of their competitors in the Republic of Belarus to the point of deadly hiccups. A border with barbed wire would be better.... Anyway, they don’t care about the Russian Federation from a high bell tower. In “abroad” everything has been prepared for a long time.
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 15: 04
        One of the few sober views on current events. It’s a pity that few people can think for themselves and give balanced assessments.
        1. +1
          2 February 2017 23: 33
          The fact is that the terms of resale have already been agreed upon!
  82. +2
    2 February 2017 14: 05
    not a good time to contradict Vova
  83. +2
    2 February 2017 14: 31
    I don't want to blame anyone.
    Historical background: 1) at the end of the 80s of the 20th century, the Warsaw Pact collapsed, responsibility for this “action” lies with the leaders of the then USSR, 80% of whom were natives of Russia;
    2) in the early 90s the USSR collapsed, the lion's share of responsibility again lies with Russia;
    3) further, the sluggish process of the former Soviet republics leaving Russia’s influence
    (Georgia, Ukraine, etc.)
    These historical facts are better understood and understood if you look at a map of Europe and Asia.
    And now, this doesn’t remind you of anything...................
    Yes, yes - “pagan sacrifice”.
    For what reason, you can guess.
    1. +6
      2 February 2017 14: 55
      Well, you see, Belarus is already ready for an orange-brown revolution with lace panties on the poster.
      1. 0
        2 February 2017 22: 27
        Quote: Engineer
        with lace panties on the poster.

        On the poster - no matter what.
        On the Maidan they put it on your head.
        Thus denoting the location of the mind. fool
    2. +3
      2 February 2017 16: 29
      I've already heard this somewhere... to spite my mother I'll freeze my ears... it's my mother's fault...
    3. +1
      3 February 2017 01: 39
      Since we are talking about historical references and responsibility, here it is:
      1. The Supreme Council of the USSR consisted of the Council of the Union and the Council of Nationalities.
      2. In the USSR, Russia did not have bodies of the national Communist Party. At all. The Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee was no less than 80% Russian. You can take a look, I’m too lazy to list them simply.
      3. With the abolition of Article 6 on the leading role of the CPSU, the republican party elites instantly became the sole masters of their republics (Kravchuk, Shushkevich, Nazarbayev, Aliyev, Shevardnadze and others...), and Gorbachev from the secretary general of a powerful structure turned into the president of something unknown and with what powers?
      To summarize, we can say that responsibility for the collapse of the country lies with the CPSU, in which the RSFSR was not even represented as a national subject of representation.
  84. 0
    2 February 2017 14: 39
    However!? ... we haven’t heard about the Union State in the media for a long time. Maybe “Old Man” is outplaying himself!?
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 15: 24
      The Union State is not Putin's project. That is why there is such an indifferent attitude towards this entity both on the part of the Russian leadership and on the part of the Russian media. Putin has his own projects: the Customs Union and the EAEU. The Union State ended with the division into flies and cutlets. What we now call the Union State is just a ghost that will never leave this world. None of the country leaders officially wants to close the project, because the rating may suffer.
  85. +2
    2 February 2017 14: 45
    Belarus is being prepared for the Ukrainian version. They have been writing about this for a long time, but here is confirmation. It is very bad that a significant part of the population wants a break with Russia.
    1. +5
      2 February 2017 15: 09
      Who told you that a significant part of the population wants a break with Russia? There are enough fools at VO, so another one has registered. negative
  86. +1
    2 February 2017 14: 54
    Well done Father! I wonder what kind of death he sees for himself: a gallows like Hussein or like Gaddafi - torn to pieces by a crowd?
  87. 0
    2 February 2017 15: 02
    I hope Kazakhstan will follow Father’s example
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 17: 38
      Does Kazakhstan need this??
  88. +2
    2 February 2017 15: 02
    Something swerved my dad to the side!
    1. 0
      2 February 2017 20: 41
      So these wobbles cannot be counted -
      Alexander Lukashenko threatened to leave the Eurasian Union

      21.09.2016
      https://www.gazeta.ru/business/2016/09/21/1020769
      1.shtml
  89. +6
    2 February 2017 15: 07
    Another scandal, this time with breaking dishes. EurAsEC, CU and CSTO are seriously ill from birth and should soon die. The partners in these alliances behave like pigs. And everyone, not just Lukashenko. There are a lot of examples. And how beautifully it all started! Putin is assembling Union 2,0! Let's live now! Hurray for the economic ecstasy of Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan! The cheers at VO drove into the skulls of anyone who doubted the viability of these fraternal structures. And now? We blame everything on Father.
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 23: 36
      Oh... Is that really how it is?
  90. +3
    2 February 2017 15: 13
    It's time for him to go to Europe.
  91. +5
    2 February 2017 15: 15
    Belarus has everything: oceanic fish products, diamond oil, desires for “visa-free”, etc. ... all that remains is to look for Crimea.
  92. +1
    2 February 2017 15: 48
    Last remark:
    Of the departed heads of state, Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev lived and died in his homeland as an honorary pensioner of the city of Moscow. As for the rest, there is no need to live in a country in which they were at the head and ruled...Lukashenko is no exception...
  93. +2
    2 February 2017 15: 57
    Belarus is stubbornly and inexorably moving towards its Maidan.
  94. +3
    2 February 2017 16: 00
    So that’s why we previously tried to reduce dependence on Belarusian components in the military-industrial complex, which means a couple of years ago we assumed something similar.
    1. +4
      2 February 2017 18: 35
      All critical production should be located only in Russia, and in its Russian regions.
    2. 0
      2 February 2017 22: 29
      Quote: Archon
      This means that a couple of years ago they assumed something similar.

      Ukraine was enough.
  95. +1
    2 February 2017 16: 06
    “Old Man” Lukashenko is playing too hard, maybe he caught the “freedom” virus from Poroshenko? wink
    1. +1
      2 February 2017 23: 38
      It’s not for nothing that they were passionate... they were hugging - so he inseminated Poros Grigorich :)
  96. +1
    2 February 2017 16: 08
    Yanukovych number two...
    In Europe they are waiting for him with handcuffs. Where?
    To Azerbaijan! That’s why he arrested someone there (a Jewish man with two citizenships) at the request of Baku.
    1. 0
      3 February 2017 09: 17
      Not someone...
      You, dear one, first delve into the topic, and then you can discuss...
  97. +1
    2 February 2017 16: 14
    They are preparing the ground for the Maidan in Belarus. By that time, Ukraine will no longer be relevant, and Belarus will go up in flames - this is already a disaster for the entire Russian world. First Ukraine, then Belarus. Old Man is certainly not an angel, he looks more like a provocateur lately, but in general, Moscow must understand that it is impossible to let the fraternal state out of its orbit. Well, for Belarus itself, the severance of economic and political ties with Russia could end in complete collapse in everything.
    1. +2
      2 February 2017 18: 31
      All so-called The “brothers” themselves must come to an alliance with Russia, but if they don’t want to be with us, let them leave. Russia is no longer obliged to drag other peoples along and save them from genocide or assimilation. We should help only those who consider themselves Russian. Well, if somewhere people who are Russian in spirit are persecuted and asked to protect them (the Baltics, country 404, Central Asia), then we are simply obliged to use military force to protect them, even if this means pulverizing half the continent. The rule is very simple: raise your hand against the Russians - get a bullet in the forehead!!!
      1. +2
        2 February 2017 23: 41
        Cool! The egg-sniffer..., ugh, the egg-sniffer asked for a bag. Head-on:)
        And as it was in one demotivator, with the image of a rabbit with an arrow sticking out in the .opa - not quite a forehead and not quite a bullet, but still... :)
  98. +2
    2 February 2017 16: 26
    Something was not divided well, but withdrawing from the CSTO agreement is too much. After all, this is a guarantee of your safety, and if you have your own oil, is it not profitable for anyone else to extract it? And it means you can buy at a reduced price from Russia. Old Man is being cunning about something.
  99. +6
    2 February 2017 16: 29
    Quote: DMB84
    I don’t believe that it is impossible to supply oil and gas to Belarus at domestic Russian prices, while stipulating a ban on resale. It's a matter of technology. But this would be a real help to the Belarusian industry.


    Belarus already receives gas and oil at domestic Russian prices (or even lower), and the sale of petroleum products is the main profit............ so there is no need to talk about poor Old Man and the evil Russian bloodsuckers.
    1. 0
      2 February 2017 17: 37
      Don't write nonsense about Russian prices inside. Because of this, all the fuss is that prices vary significantly. There is plenty of information, Google it. Internally, Russian prices are promised only by 2025, perhaps.
  100. +2
    2 February 2017 16: 30
    Belarus is in full swing - it’s easier for Russia....