Syrian tanks began to use high-precision shells

In the area of ​​Palmyra, Syrian troops began to use tank guided missiles to destroy jihadist military equipment, reports Messenger of Mordovia with reference to SyrianMilitaryCap.

"It is alleged that they are using guided tank missiles of the" Bastion "complex, which were used by T-62M tanks. In fact, the 116-2 Sheksna complex has been created for the upgraded sixty-twos and 9K116-1 Bastion is a development for T-55MB, which are also available in Syria, ”explains the author Roman Katkov.

According to him, the missiles of these 2-x complexes differ only in that they are used by tools of different calibers - 115 and 100 mm. “A rocket projectile for the Sheksna received support belts on the body, contributing to stable movement along the non-rifled barrel of 115-mm guns,” the author notes.

The missiles are aimed at the target at the laser beam using the 1K13 pointing device. The defeat range from 100m to 4 km. The speed of the projectile - 370 m / s, armor penetration - up to 600 mm. The probability of hitting the target at maximum range - 80%. Ammunition can be used in the heat of up to + 50 degrees, which is important, given the climatic conditions of Syria.

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[210ox]

This is all from our warehouses. And most likely our gunners-operators are in the crews ..

[cniza]

This is certain from our warehouses, because others cannot have it, but at the expense of the operators - gunners, you got excited, they are not there, there can only be instructors.

[Sirocco]

Quote: cniza

You got excited, they are not there, there can only be instructors.

Well, it’s easy tradition, but hard to believe. Knowing the masturbation of the Sokolov and the Tigers, with their cropped divisions of 150-200 people, what are the "divisions" such and the "Syrian specialists"

[seti]

Quote: 210ox

This is all from our warehouses. And most likely our gunners-operators are in the crews ..

What nonsense. For each tank our gunner. Do we need this? It’s easier then to equip all the crews with our tankers and even to fight the Russian soldiers for the army of the SAR. It will not happen. We can help with advice and bombs with the videoconferencing and you can fight for someone. Enough and special forces for the eyes. The Syrians themselves must fight for their freedom and future. We must fight for ourselves and our interests. And since we need it and not to anyone.

[ramzes1776]

Quote: 210ox

This is all from our warehouses. And most likely our gunners-operators are in the crews ..

From warehouses, all storage periods have long passed. Rather, they produce in small batches, but this is nonsense about our operators.

[Koshak]

Quote: 210ox

And most likely our gunner-operators are in the crews ..

You really consider the Syrians primitive people. How long does it take to train a Syrian gunner? University, for this you need to finish? In our village tractor driver’s training this is taught for 2 months.

[just exp]

and that they are not primitive? these are Arabs, and this is a diagnosis.
Want proof? I have them. this is the whole war in Syria. look how it goes. and think, is this normal?

[Koshak]

Quote: just EXPL

and that they are not primitive? these are Arabs, and this is a diagnosis.
Want proof? I have them. this is the whole war in Syria. look how it goes. and think, is this normal?

Yeah, like "I'm a white man" is the most highly intelligent, and the rest did not come out in color and therefore "chuchmeki-idiots." Are you a racist or something? And the Syrian pilots, who, together with ours, work on the igil, also left a stone ax near the porch of their house yesterday? You do not need to feel like a higher race in relation to them, if you do not even know the inhabitants of this country. I communicated with the Syrians (pilots and technicians) during their war with Israel in the 80s, and I can say that they are much more literate than some of today's sofa superhuman.
Threat. You even failed to master the grammar for 4th grade, intellectual, your copper. And he also put on colonel epaulettes.

[KaPToC]

Quote: just explo

these are Arabs, and this is a diagnosis

The diagnosis is racism in your head.

[Ustrushan]

Syria needs a professional army. Professionals can be trusted with serious "toys." Preparation has been going on for a long time, so soon we will see good results ...

[KOMA]

Your words, God bless your ears! So far, no army in the Middle East can be called professional, except for the army of the State of Israel, as practice shows during the first turmoil, most of the professionals turn out to be simple dehkans, even the "invincible" army of Iraq could not provide a little bit of decent resistance. In the east, they are too lazy and cowardly.

[xetai9977]

I agree to the account of the eastern armies. But I must admit that the Ishilovites are also mostly Arabs. And fight skillfully enough

[KOMA]

As for igil, I think that the command and the most efficient units consist of mercenaries or ideological locals specially trained in camps, but the backbone of which are peasants under pain of death, famine, etc. allowed as cannon fodder. Hard discipline, on pain of death, distinguishes igil units from regulars.

[Koshak]

Quote: KOMA

even the “invincible” army of Iraq was not even able to provide a little decent resistance.

To whom? Iraq and the USA were compared in a coalition with henchmen.

[weksha50]

Quote: Ustrushan

Preparation has been going on for a long time, so soon we will see good results ...

Um ... Ukrainians have been trained for many years by instructors from many countries-states that are far from the last in the world ... And here ... I do not want to offend anyone, but: "Arabs, sir ..." ...

[RUSIVAN]

Why good dust, when you can use them for the good ...

[Alex_Tug]

Why good dust, when you can use them for the good ..

They have a warranty period of storage. It’s better to dispose of it in a battle for the good.

[avt]

"It is alleged that they are using guided tank missiles of the" Bastion "complex, which were used by T-62M tanks. In fact, the 116-2 Sheksna complex has been created for the upgraded sixty-twos and 9K116-1 Bastion is a development for T-55MB, which are also available in Syria, ”explains the author Roman Katkov.

And why pickle them in warehouses to the state of instability and decommissioning? Machines even go off the reserve, and fireplugs must be implemented for the intended purpose of their creation.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: avt

And why pickle them in warehouses to the state of instability and decommissioning?

Moreover, nowhere except on the T-62, the 115-mm gun is no longer used.
And all T-62s have been withdrawn from service of the RF Armed Forces. Moreover, if it weren’t for Syria, then they would be disposed of right now.

[avt]

Quote: Alexey RA

Moreover, nowhere except on the T-62, the 115-mm gun is no longer used.

Now, if I’m not mistaken, 9K116-1 “Bastion” can also be thrown from Rapira, so .. there is where and closer to their intended purpose they can be thrown.

[NEXUS]

Quote: avt

9K116-1 "Bastion" can also be thrown from Rapiers, so .. there is where and closer to their intended purpose to throw.

It wouldn’t hurt Novorossiysk at all ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: avt

Now, if I’m not mistaken, 9K116-1 “Bastion” can also be thrown from Rapira, so .. there is where and closer to their intended purpose they can be thrown.

Yes, unlike 115 mm systems, we still have 100 mm guns.
As I understand it, the “Fist” 9K116 was the first. He spawned the Bastion 9K116-1 for the T-55 and the Sheksna 9K116-2 for the T-62.

Both complexes use the same 9M117 missile from the Kastet complex. But since the 115-mm U-5TS gun has a larger caliber, the 9M117 missile was additionally equipped with support belts to ensure stable movement along the bore and to prevent gas from breaking through the projectile. In addition, the shell with a propelling charge was changed under the chamber 115 mm guns.

So the controlled part of the tank and anti-tank systems is the same. The question is the compatibility of propellant charges and shells (in other words, how the shell of a tank gun enters the PTP chamber). You remember the well-known jokes with the compatibility of shots of 75-mm TP and PTP among the Germans.

[Black Colonel]

And suggest, twirling the controls of the "Rapier"? It seems to me that this will not be very convenient, because "Rapier" is not intended for guiding ATGMs.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Black Colonel

because "Rapier" is not intended for guiding ATGMs.

The joke is that there two people are simultaneously participating in the guidance - the gunner and the operator. The gunner points the gun at the target in order to launch in the right direction, and then the operator is a separate sighting system operator.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Black Colonel

And suggest, twirling the controls of the "Rapier"?

A separate operator guides (the 9Sh135 aiming and pointing equipment is placed on a tripod next to the gun). Here is a photo of the MT-12 with the Brass Knuckles:

[kirgiz58]

In addition to the "muzzle" indicated ammunition, some more equipment is needed. Is it on Rapier? It seems not.

[Gray brother]

Quote: kirgiz58

In addition to the "muzzle" indicated ammunition, some more equipment is needed. Is it on Rapier? It seems not.

On the “Rapier” it is not :-) In the photo she is on the tripod to the left of the gun.

[Samaritan]

Who will be interested in this article on VO:

https://topwar.ru/33688-otechestvennye-tankovye-r
akety-i-snaryady.html

[kirgiz58]

Yeah! Live a century - study a century, but one damn fool will die. (c) but not my words.

[NEXUS]

That’s right ... and we’ll free the warehouses and we won’t scatter like that with gauges. Moreover, what is not a precision weapon? And the life of the Ishilovites should be made even more severe.
At the same time, according to the results of combat use, I suspect that in the near future we will develop a guided projectile cleaner than Escalibur ...

[St Petrov]

And the life of the Ishilovites should be made even more severe.

Yes, and the life of the Ishilovites should be made even cheaper

[ydjin]

It's time to clean our depots from obsolete ammunition which in Syria will be very useful!

[NEXUS]

Quote: ydjin

It's time to clean our depots from obsolete ammunition which in Syria will be very useful!

In fairness, they wouldn’t interfere with Novorossiysk.

[Alexey-74]

exactly ... I really hope that they are present there

[Irek]

There is a real run-in of our weapons in combat conditions; this effect cannot be achieved in exercises.

[MaksoMelan]

Yeah. For example, a sergeant stands over a soul or an officer and yells. Behind the mat, nothing is clear what happened, it turns out you didn’t succeed in turning your foot. And then he screamed because you couldn’t understand him and put your foot right. And try to think about something else at least !!!! such a dad. This is when I was in the military camp. And he shouted at everyone like a slaughtered even the other officers looked at him as abnormal. And also kicked. Well, as a child, it was so perceived. Type legs trampled as it should. And without making a discount, I was the youngest with my brother there. And then yells shoot shoot. I didn’t even take aim as I pressed my finger. (in the sense of the machine was always directed where necessary), but when they suddenly shout, shoot a finger, they can jerk themselves. And then it dawns on you that there are no cartridges. And they won’t even let you know whether you got where or not.

[MaksoMelan]

From the thread about American tanks in Poland:
----Started. Do we have remotely controlled birds? To stick a pipe and he himself with the tablet for 300 meters. And you have about 30 pieces in different places so instructed. And the guidance center is in another place. Or next to a fighter.
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Maxim Maximov I propose to call the system Organ (music instrument).
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---- Ramaz Kukuliev self-propelled guns on the ARMATA platform with remote control. (One car in a closed position controls volleys of other cars standing in the open while the crews smoke.;)
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---- Maxim Maximov Not this is not it. For self-propelled guns you need ammunition refueling equipment refueling machines and a ton of everything. And here the bunker organized stumbled pipes disguised as birch or oak stumps. Or to the hill. At least one person The maximum shift is enough. Duty rest, reconnaissance. And most importantly, there is nobody at the place of release. If something arrives in response. And the launcher is intact in the sense of guidance. Not like trying to keep the launcher from TOU. P is essentially a stationary huge fool tolerated only with the help of a moss. Our lucky.
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