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US intelligence assesses Russia's ability to survive a nuclear strike

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As the RIA News, at the request of the congress, the American intelligence community and the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces (STRATCOM) analyze the ability of the Russian and Chinese authorities to "survive a nuclear strike." It will describe the location and characteristics of underground communications of political and military importance.



The study began before Donald Trump assumed the presidency. The initiative was supported by representatives of both major American parties - the Republican and Democratic. Congressmen argued it with distrust of the Russian authorities and concern about China’s growing confidence in its military power.

Earlier, US President Donald Trump said that easing anti-Russian sanctions could be linked to the conclusion of a bilateral treaty on the reduction of nuclear weapons. The Russian leadership refused to link the two questions.

Between Russia and the USA 3 January 1993 was signed in Moscow the START-2 agreement, according to which the parties pledged to reduce the arsenals of their strategic weapons to 2003 by two thirds of the January level 1993; the number of nuclear warheads on each side should not exceed 3-3,5 thousands of units. The Russian side ratified the treaty in the package with the 14 protocol of April 2000, with the condition of preserving the ABM treaty (on limiting anti-ballistic missile defense systems). The United States approved the document in January 1996, but the agreement in the package with the protocol of September 26 from 1997 was not submitted for ratification. After the US’s withdrawal from the 13 ABM Treaty on June 2002, Moscow announced the termination of its obligations under the START-2 Treaty. In June 2002, the Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying that, in connection with Washington’s actions, Russia "notes the absence of any prerequisites for the entry into force of the START-2 Treaty."
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  1. himRa
    himRa 30 January 2017 10: 47
    +27
    Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 30 January 2017 10: 56
      +11
      According to RIA Novosti, at the request of the congress, the American intelligence community and the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces (STRATCOM) are analyzing the ability of the Russian and Chinese authorities to "survive a nuclear strike." it will describe the location and characteristics of underground utilities of political and military importance.

      This "ffhhhhhh" is not casual ... Either the mattresses are rattling for the show for weapons (which is most likely), or they are sharpening warheads (having lost the remnants of the brain) ...
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        1. Alex_1973
          Alex_1973 30 January 2017 11: 37
          +25
          DIVAN SOLDIER Today, 11:02 ↑ New
          Trump is such a pro-Russian candidate
          What DB inspired you? Do not watch the zombie creator, it affects your brain badly.

          Trump is pro-American in the first place, and only blessed ones can expect indulgences from him. But in general, no matter what position he takes with respect to Russia, in any case, he evokes more respect than the worthless h * m * about Obama. The weak are not loved anywhere, and Obama is the weakest and worthless president of the United States in their history. negative
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 30 January 2017 13: 52
            +11
            It should be noted that the USA is a non-independent state. The USA is already “privatized” through finances by world financial capitalists - bankers-usurers-globalists of the US Federal Reserve (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.). The USA is just the arms and legs of a financial political superstructure over the whole world in the form of the “300 Committee”, which is headed by Elizabeth II. About which, by the way, there were rumors that she died and her body was hidden somewhere. She hasn’t shown herself in public for more than 2 months.
            The ideology of these bankers-usurers is the same - the achievement and retention of their own world domination in the world in the form of establishing a slave-owning kingdom over all humanity - taking all of humanity under its complete control to the last man. And to achieve this goal in the course of reformatting the world to their advantage, all means are good for them - and nuclear war in the first place! And they are preparing for it.
            2 things to consider here:
            1. That, in principle, they could well sacrifice in the nuclear war and the United States themselves! After all, after the World War –– after reformatting the world by them –– it is, in principle, absolutely indifferent to where the new center of the world will be located, from where their paper or electronic money will start to print again.
            2. That they themselves are not so many in number - all of the order of 15 thousand people. And they can completely hide from a nuclear war in some secluded corner of the planet. Therefore, they have already bought up and bought up land in South America and in New Guinea or Zealand. There, they hope to personally survive the nuclear war. From there, they will begin again their financial activities from scratch as domination of the whole world. They already have experience in enslaving peoples through finances, and technologies have been worked out.
            TOTAL Therefore, it would be the last short-sightedness on our part not to track the personal "den" of the US Federal Reserve bankers and their relatives, i.e. their whereabouts in case of atomic warfare. The main instigators of nuclear war should also be personally targeted, and not just just nuclear powers, and should be directly responsible for starting a new world war.
            1. Oleg16661
              Oleg16661 30 January 2017 15: 37
              +6
              Quote: Tatiana

              2. That they themselves are not so many in number - all of the order of 15 thousand people. And they can completely hide from a nuclear war in some secluded corner of the planet. Therefore, they have already bought up and bought up land in South America and in New Guinea or Zealand. There, they hope to personally survive the nuclear war. From there, they will begin again their financial activities from scratch as domination of the whole world. They already have experience in enslaving peoples through finances, and technologies have been worked out.

              When I hear this version, I always wonder what kind of "financial activity" can they develop after a nuclear war? In a world where heaps of surviving people will be scattered around the globe, where there will be no production, education, medicine? In that world, ammunition and gas will be the “finances”, and then not for long until they end, and not green / red / blue candy wrappers, and the size of the bank account will not matter.
              You can pre-create mini-armies, stock up on weapons and ammunition, but without production it will still someday end. I hope you understand that production is not one plant producing anything, but also other enterprises that provide it with raw materials, for example. You can save 1,2 factories producing cartridges, but to preserve the metallurgical, chemical and other industries, including and experts, a nuclear war will not work. Accordingly, there will be no more sense from these pairs of plants than from large hangars.
              And this will not last 10-20 years. Most likely, civilization will recover in a couple of millennia, if at all. And if something is created later, it certainly won’t be similar to what the “bankers-usurers” plan to do with this world, because history has shown that all systems collapse, often the descendants of its creators.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 30 January 2017 16: 48
                +2
                Oleg16661
                When I hear this version, I always wonder what kind of "financial activity" can they develop after a nuclear war? In a world where heaps of surviving people will be scattered around the globe, where there will be no production, education, medicine?

                Yes, these people will simply be written off and will not be taken into account. These domrut themselves. Not about them.
                The fact is that the Hasidim version is widespread in the world, and now they are almost everywhere in power. According to this Jewish sect, in the world when all other peoples and non-Hasidic Jews disappear, they - the Hasidim - supposedly go to live in another dimension and will exist forever. They need EVERYTHING sizzling war. And this idea, in particular, is also working by some bankers of the US Federal Reserve. Hasidim are not going to live in this world. They are simply fanatical killers of humanity and earthly suicides. This is the first. (Transmitted this information from memory.)
                The second one. Jewish banking option for financial capitalists of the US Federal Reserve.
                That life on the planet during and after a nuclear war will not be affected and damaged on some continents, in particular in South America and some Pacific islands remote from the mainland. There, they will begin a new civilization of mankind for themselves with a slave system at the computer level. In general, there have never been such civilizations for the “chosen ones” in history, but we are stubbornly led to this. Chipization of the population will allow slave owners to control the slaves, control their behavior and destroy them biologically from one control center. Even no weapons will be needed for this. Conditional electronic "money" in your account is also under the control of the Bank, i.e. under the control of bankers - financial capitalists. Release them is not necessary. They simply will be displayed on the screen of a computer monitor in the Peace Control Center.
                Fiction, you say? In no case! This is a completely feasible plan, which is actively being stealthily promoted in practice by certain people - Rothschilds, for example. (The Internet has it all.)
                1. Oleg16661
                  Oleg16661 30 January 2017 17: 17
                  +2
                  Tatyana, I don’t think that there are many adherents of the "transition to another world" even among these same "Fed bankers." Not that age, values ​​and way of thinking now.
                  According to the second version: the slave system at the initial stage may still be, but it will not be computer. There will be no chipization. It is not now, at the current level of development, without nuclear war, and even after it, and even more so. Do not forget that the production of everything and everything on the planet will be destroyed. Accordingly, all the main innovative, scientific, and generally all the main production centers with all specialists will be destroyed. The remaining "untouched islets", due to their insignificance and remaining untouched, will not be able to provide the "owners" with everything necessary for "chipization","controlling slaves, controlling their behavior and destroying them biologically from one control center"And there will be no."electronic money in your account under the control of the Bank, i.e. under the control of bankers - financial capitalists, who will be displayed on the computer screen". A person will need to survive, and it will be possible to survive not with the help of" digits on the monitor screen "or colored paper, but with the help of a barrel, cartridges and food. That is, with the help of real material things.
                  In general, for me personally, such "versions of the future" are equal to those in which aliens come from heaven / water / another dimension and save the planet by destroying flying warheads. The sense in them, as well as the fact that they will be translated into reality is exactly the same. But this is in my opinion. Everyone believes in what he wants.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 30 January 2017 18: 07
                    0
                    Quote: Oleg16661
                    There will be no chipization. She is not now
                    Chipization in the West is already in full swing! You just do not know.

                    1. Chipization has begun ... And you did not believe? Posted on: 6 Mar. 2015 g
                    [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = JXBkzovL2e
                    s]
                    February 2015. In Sweden, microchips were massively implanted in office employees. Aaron Russo was right. And many doubted and considered this a fiction. People, wake up!

                    2. Generic chipization in Russia
                    [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = Mvl6wEbtyQg]
              2. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 1 February 2017 02: 43
                0
                You can’t convince Tatiana, she’s the sectarian of the "Rothschild-Rockefeller conspiracy."
                But the most paradoxical, in my opinion, is that these old men from investment banks are one of the most adequate and conservative people in our rather turbulently crazy world. Their business — long-term banking investments — needs peace in the world and a developed capitalist market. Old people, unlike young people, are not prone to risks and innovations. They want to calmly drink tea in their cozy mansions in rural France or Florida, and not in bunkers.
                So the danger to humanity is definitely not from them.
            2. Havoc
              Havoc 30 January 2017 17: 08
              0
              Quote: Tatiana
              It should be noted that the USA is a non-independent state. The USA is already “privatized” through finances by world financial capitalists - bankers-usurers-globalists of the US Federal Reserve (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.). The USA is just the arms and legs of a financial political superstructure over the whole world in the form of the “300 Committee”, which is headed by Elizabeth II. About which, by the way, there were rumors that she died and her body was hidden somewhere. She hasn’t shown herself in public for more than 2 months.
              The ideology of these bankers-usurers is the same - the achievement and retention of their own world domination in the world in the form of establishing a slave-owning kingdom over all humanity - taking all of humanity under its complete control to the last man. And to achieve this goal in the course of reformatting the world to their advantage, all means are good for them - and nuclear war in the first place! And they are preparing for it.
              2 things to consider here:
              1. That, in principle, they could well sacrifice in the nuclear war and the United States themselves! After all, after the World War –– after reformatting the world by them –– it is, in principle, absolutely indifferent to where the new center of the world will be located, from where their paper or electronic money will start to print again.
              2. That they themselves are not so many in number - all of the order of 15 thousand people. And they can completely hide from a nuclear war in some secluded corner of the planet. Therefore, they have already bought up and bought up land in South America and in New Guinea or Zealand. There, they hope to personally survive the nuclear war. From there, they will begin again their financial activities from scratch as domination of the whole world. They already have experience in enslaving peoples through finances, and technologies have been worked out.
              TOTAL Therefore, it would be the last short-sightedness on our part not to track the personal "den" of the US Federal Reserve bankers and their relatives, i.e. their whereabouts in case of atomic warfare. The main instigators of nuclear war should also be personally targeted, and not just just nuclear powers, and should be directly responsible for starting a new world war.


              Sorry, but this is insanity, why should they take refuge somewhere, if planet Earth is not suitable for life, it will be in the best case, in the worst, the planet Earth itself.
              You can imagine how many warheads are accumulated on both sides.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 30 January 2017 17: 27
                +3
                Quote: Havoc
                ... this is insanity

                But are not sectarians obsessed with their senile fanaticism?
                Moreover, it is much worse! These are biological degenerates.
                By and large, there is now a world war between biologically healthy people and degenerates of the human race. Do you not see the perversion of everything and everything in the West in a sexual and psychological sense?
                1. himRa
                  himRa 1 February 2017 06: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Quote: Havoc
                  ... this is insanity

                  But are not sectarians obsessed with their senile fanaticism?
                  Moreover, it is much worse! These are biological degenerates.
                  By and large, there is now a world war between biologically healthy people and degenerates of the human race. Do you not see the perversion of everything and everything in the West in a sexual and psychological sense?

                  I could not keep silent wassat
                  In the heat of controversy, you allow yourself statements from which I could not get out from under the table for 5 minutes! and moreover, you forced me to agree with the Jews!
                  laughing
                  I hasten to reassure you ________________________________________
                  _____
                  What can I say? Yes, the war is and has always been! Well, in a pinch of years, so a couple of thousand for sure! How ancient manuscripts are recorded lol
                  Perpetrators are immediately punished,
                  -bouquet of diseases sexually intemperate
                  -alcoholics poisoning and decay of the liver
                  addicts degradation ...
                  any pleasure is not given just like that! even the natural, which is peculiar to man after a period of decline in activity and weakening of physical capabilities
                  I once conducted experiments on myself, which any person can conduct, namely:
                  try to solve problems no matter in the humanitarian or technical disciplines before and after sex
                  traces a clear dependence that after sex, abilities fall and with what decently ...
                  but otherwise I agree with Alexei you write nonsense!
                  1. DarkMatter
                    DarkMatter 1 February 2017 17: 38
                    0
                    Quote: himRa

                    try to solve problems no matter in the humanitarian or technical disciplines before and after sex
                    traces a clear dependence that after sex, abilities fall and with what decently ...

                    I didn’t specifically check for availability, but it seems to me that a well-established theory has a place to be.
                    So even athletes (soccer players, for example) are not allowed to meet with their families before important tournaments or games.
                    If you think offhand, it seems to me that this is rooted in the topic of reproduction. So the man having done his job falls asleep, relaxes and so on. A woman does not sleep wassat
                    Her business is just just beginning - to bear and have a baby.
                    So such an experiment is necessary for the wife to do, I think her indicators should increase afterwards!
            3. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 30 January 2017 23: 43
              +4
              "through finances by world financial capitalists - bankers-usurers-globalists of the US Federal Reserve (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.)" ////

              You are hiding the worst truth: the Rothschild-Rockefeller bankers are just
              servants of reptilian aliens. That's who really rules our planet!
              They want to take our oxygen away!
              But not everything is lost - two world leaders Trump and Putin will save the Earth!
              I can’t be silent, although Soros from this gang pays me for every post ...
              Earth is more important! Down with the reptilians! am am am
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 31 January 2017 07: 17
                +1
                 voyaka uh Aleksey! And why is this truth so annoying to you?
                Here we are normally discussing the future! We have every right to do so.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 31 January 2017 18: 37
                  +1
                  "We are normally discussing the future here! We have every right to do so" ////

                  I don't shut up anyone. You have every right.
                  But about reptilians, I, too, as a citizen of the Earth, do not have the right to remain silent.

                  "The famous ufologist D. Carpenter, who has been dealing with the reptiloid problem for many years,
                  says almost all eyewitnesses describe them the same way. These are erect beings.
                  Their height is from 1,8 to 2,4 meters. The head is a cross between a man’s head and a lizard’s head. The same can be said about the face. The skin is scaly, its color - from greenish to brownish, is spotty ... "
                  http://tainy.net/51211-reptiloidy-zhivut-s-lyudmi
                  -na-onej-planete.html

                  And you say - Rockefellers ... small bipod in the hands (paws) of reptilians.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 31 January 2017 19: 00
                    +1
                    Alexey! Demagogue on! You do it pretty well.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 1 February 2017 02: 33
                      0
                      Delirium about bankers and Hasidim is completely equivalent to delirium about reptilian aliens. About once every few years, a wave of predictions about the end of the world rises in the world. A date is called, an ominous date passes, and the wave decays. About the same thing and your regular clicks. But I don’t hear the dates: when will these terrible bankers fulfill their plans to destroy the world? But they are already old - under 70-80 years. May not be in time ... smile
                      1. himRa
                        himRa 1 February 2017 06: 07
                        +2
                        As a reasonable person and an atheist, I can only agree with you, dear Alexey! Above I already wrote about it
                      2. Rt-xnumx
                        Rt-xnumx 1 February 2017 13: 21
                        0
                        when will these terrible bankers fulfill their plans to destroy the world?


                        Here, apparently, this is not about the destruction of the world by American bankers, but about managing the world through the economy and the dollar.

                        And according to some reports, only one person manages it - the actual owner of the Fed.

                        If you want to know about it - read the link. (there at the very beginning).

                        The story is given in the form of an art, and not a documentary - therefore, an impression of coinedness may arise.

                        Well, if someone doesn’t believe it - well, okay, that’s his right.

                        http://zkr-1.ru/milliarder/
                    2. DarkMatter
                      DarkMatter 1 February 2017 17: 46
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Alexey! Demagogue on! You do it pretty well.

                      Sorry, but I think you haven’t dug too deeply in this matter. Voyaka uh is absolutely right!
                      I see a problem in the fact that in Russian this topic is covered extremely and extremely poorly. This must be read (watch video) in the western part of the Internet in English.
                      The question of reptilians is extremely acute!
                      Moreover, behind such a fall in traditional foundations and abomination on TV screens they are just the ones. In all these vile Western videos, which are considered the most vile and depraved, connoisseurs find reptilian characters and their messages that they broadcast openly, as if mocking ordinary people that ordinary people cannot see and understand how much we all (almost) cap.

                      Something like this request bully
          2. Glory1974
            Glory1974 30 January 2017 14: 45
            0
            Do not watch the zombie,


            and Obama is the weakest and worthless president of the United States in their entire history.


            This is said only by our zomboyaschik. In the West, his grades are much higher. If he were such a shnik, two terms would not have ruled.
          3. WKS
            WKS 30 January 2017 17: 05
            0
            It is time for Americans to stop bluffing and to put the world on the brink of a nuclear apocalypse. Politics is not poker; here you cannot pull the joker out of your sleeve. We burn together, regardless of research.
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 30 January 2017 11: 41
          +11
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Soon everyone will be screaming that Trump hm)))

          No, the p.m. is forever for Obama, a trailer for the Nobel. There were in the history of Karl the Bold, Eduard the Leggy, Philip the Beautiful, etc. - there will be Barack the Omitted. Trump, at least, does not cause such a feeling of contempt and disgust. Yes, he is a shark, perhaps a ghoul, but not a rag - that's for sure.
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      2. Yura
        Yura 30 January 2017 12: 02
        +9
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        This "ffmfmf" is not casual

        In my 60 years, for the first time I see just such a formulation
        US Armed Forces Strategic Command (STRATCOM) analyze the ability of the Russian and Chinese authorities to survive a nuclear strike"
        a very frank wording, this has not happened before, these games of theirs mean one thing - the first blow after them, and they are worried about what will be left of them after that, that is, how much more likely they are to go unpunished in an acceptable form for them. This means the same as before, as soon as we relax, well, China, too, the United States did not hesitate to seize the moment, the only nuance they first spoke about it directly with their wording.
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 30 January 2017 13: 15
          +5
          In response, it will fly not after it falls, but as soon as it leaves there, the returnees will immediately fly. They may not even know how it all ended there.
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 30 January 2017 13: 31
          +1
          States did not take advantage of the moment in the late 40s, then in the 50s, when they had every chance of "success" with minimal losses. Then it was too late.
          1. himRa
            himRa 30 January 2017 13: 46
            +2
            Quote: Orionvit
            States did not take advantage of the moment in the late 40s, then in the 50s, when they had every chance of "success" with minimal losses. Then it was too late.

            They didn’t have the opportunity ... the minimum losses are 50% and it’s not a fact, but the fact that the pilots knowing the losses refused to fly is another argument
            and they had few charges at that time — they did not cover 20 cities!
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 30 January 2017 14: 38
              0
              Yes, and they had few charges at that time - they did not cover 20 cities
              At the end of the 40s, the states had more than 300 nuclear warheads, enough to strike at major cities and important targets.
              They didn’t have the opportunity ... the minimum losses are 50% and it’s not a fact, but the fact that the pilots knowing the losses refused to fly is another argument
              In World War II, when they flew by armada to bomb Germany, the losses among the pilots were very large, but that somehow didn’t really bother them. And what does 50% loss mean, where do these numbers come from? To the rank and file in the states brought the results of analytics from the Pentagon? If a pilot refuses to fly on a combat mission, this is a real reason for leaving the army without a pension, and an occasion for generals to think about the state of the armed forces. I understand what is now in the US army all the time, but then their army was still more combat-ready.
              1. himRa
                himRa 30 January 2017 16: 49
                +7
                For a long time it was not possible (was busy) to answer you:
                Let us clarify what we are talking about the period when the United States could strike (nuclear blitzkrieg) against the USSR without danger of getting an answer, right?
                Now we are beginning to analyze the situation at the time of the middle and end of the Second World War, the ground army of the USSR had a decisive advantage over the NATO forces of Europe of the future NATO both quantitatively and qualitatively!
                for 1945, the United States did not have a single nuclear bomb since they used up their two experimental charges on Japan ...
                in 1946 they had 9 charges, which was not enough to guarantee the defeat of even one city in Moscow 9-55% = 4; 9-5 = 4 that is, there was no decisive value!
                in 1947 the same thing 13-55% = 5; 13-8 = 5 and so on ....
                Why did the Americans never dare to attack the USSR? The answer to this was the just ended World War II, in which the Red Army defeated the strongest army in the world, which the Wehrmacht had long been considered to be. The USSR demonstrated amazing survivability, bearing the brunt of the war against Hitler Germany on its shoulders. In the event of a nuclear attack, it was not possible to defeat such a force in land battles at the European theater of operations in the shortest possible time, and, consequently, a preventive strike lost its significance. And after 1949, when the USSR had its own atomic bomb, the impunity of the attack completely decreased, in other words, Soviet tanks would still reach the Atlantic Ocean, only with much greater losses for both sides. And at the same time, the inhabitants of the USA could no longer be calm for their measured overseas life, without fear of an ominous "gift" from the air.
                The United States believed that the USSR would not have atomic weapons until at least the mid-50s. However, on August 29, 1949, the work of Soviet nuclear physicists ended in success. The RDS-1 bomb detonated that day was called in the West in honor of Stalin: "Joe-1." The nuclear race has begun.

                In addition to the atomic bomb for testing on August 29, 1949, two more RDS-1949 bombs were manufactured in the USSR by the end of 1, and nine more in 1950. However, all these bombs were experimental devices, and the USSR at that time did not have delivery vehicles. In January-February 1951, four more atomic bombs were manufactured. Thus, by March 1, 1951, the USSR had 15 atomic bombs of the RDS-1 type. By the end of 1951, a total of 29 RDS-1 atomic bombs were manufactured, including the first three mass-produced atomic bombs.

                After the successful test on September 24, 1951 of the Soviet atomic charge "502-M" (RDS-2), by the end of 1951 the production of atomic bombs of this type RDS-2 was mastered. On January 1, 1952, the USSR had 35 atomic bombs, 29 of which were RDS-1 and 6 RDS-2. The USSR could theoretically deliver these bombs to the USA [1].

                U.S.:
                1946: 125 carriers (9 bombs),
                1947: 270 carriers (13 bombs),
                1948: 473 carriers (50 bombs),
                1949: 447 carriers (200 bombs),
                1950: 462 carriers (400 bombs),
                According to their calculations, it turned out that in the event of an attack, the probability of combat losses in bombers would be more than 55%. They did not exclude a retaliatory strike on their own territory.

                The Korean company in the beginning of 1949 fully showed the vulnerability of the B-29 flying fortresses of the main carriers of nuclear weapons
                Sources:
                https://ria.ru/analytics/20151203/1335028353.html
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%B4%D0%B5%
                D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%
                D1%82%D0%B5%D1%82

                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%B4%D0%B5%
                D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%
                D0% B0
                1. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 31 January 2017 03: 50
                  0
                  Dear himRa. Of course, analytics is interesting, but this is just analytics, that is, speculation. Reading your (and not only your) calculations, at first glance it seems that everything is so simple. And this is alarming. We probably won’t find out the real reasons for what happened, and even more so for what didn’t happen, as well as the alignment of forces. For example. We are still being sucked in that the cause of World War I was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. And the reason for the beginning of World War II was the bloodthirsty dreams of the patient on Hitler's head about world domination. And note this "official" story. How can one trust “verified” sources if most of the documents on most issues are still classified. Both with us and them. And here we are wondering what would have happened if something had not been there. Not knowing the true facts, any of our judgments will, by definition, be incorrect.
                  1. himRa
                    himRa 31 January 2017 06: 59
                    +3
                    I just substantiated my assertion that the Americans did not have the opportunity to deliver a preemptive nuclear (conventional) strike against the USSR where you claimed that they “slipped” anything like that, they did not ,, slipped, if they had the opportunity, they would have inflicted ! You can rest assured, for example, if the Americans had the opportunity to launch an unrequited nuclear strike on Japan, then they launched it despite the fact that there was no longer any need! Only to demonstrate military power for concessions in negotiations with the USSR! It is a pity that you did not understand my point! Analytics of the past have advantages when the facts and outcome are known! Nobody has canceled logic yet, and science will and will stand on it! And this is not a fortune-telling or a prediction of psychics!
                    Many sources are in the public domain, for example, newspaper publications give a lot of facts by which one can judge the mood in society, there is such a science of statistics, but what I explain to you!
                    But not accepted in discussion translate arrows this indicates the absence of arguments (not wanting to look for them) and disagreement with the position of the speaker and this does not paint you hi
                    if you want me a detailed answer on the WWII and its reasons! I can briefly say that the war (WWII) did not arise due to the murder of Archduke Ferdinand (this is a long-known fact) and the reasons lie much deeper!
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 31 January 2017 08: 42
                      0
                      It’s unfortunate that you didn’t understand me, because you don’t want to leave your wave.
                      where you claimed that they
                      There was nothing like this in my reasoning. I said that they had the opportunity to strike with minimal losses, but they did not use it. For what reasons I do not know, and no one really knows. There may be a lot of reasons. If you want publications and facts, then there are billions of them online for every taste. If you wish, you can "prove" anything.
                      Yes, and I am well aware of the true reasons for the outbreak of the First World War.
                      We are still being sucked in that the cause of World War I was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
                      Read the comments carefully before giving an answer.
                      1. himRa
                        himRa 31 January 2017 10: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        I said that they had the opportunity to strike with minimal losses, but they did not use it. For what reasons I do not know, and no one really knows.

                        I told you that they did not have the opportunity to deliver a preemptive strike without an answer, but the answer could be a victory parade in Washington and a trial of US politicians!
                        It seems like serious people, but they are so naive and stubborn!
                        We would have captured Europe and England and used their resources as well as the resources of the Asia-Pacific region, (by the way, China was under us.) To capture the USA! And Zhukov offered Stalin this option
                        While all Eastern Europe was below us ...
                        States did not take advantage of the moment in the late 40s, then in the 50s, when they had every chance of "success" with minimal losses. Then it was too late.

                        you did not answer a number of questions and continue insist without argument
                        cease to respect as an interlocutor. on that and say goodbye.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 30 January 2017 10: 59
      0
      Hollywood to help them! wassat
      Quote: himRa
      Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 30 January 2017 11: 13
      +16
      it will describe the location and characteristics of underground utilities of political and military importance.

      It’s stupid to think that we don’t have any plans. Neither by reflection, nor by striking back, and what are their goals, what we have studied far and wide. yes From the moment we possess nuclear potential, we are studying each other. what
      1. iConst
        iConst 30 January 2017 11: 53
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        It’s stupid to think that we have no plans.

        However, there is an opinion:
        The Russian people usually do not have an action plan. He is scary for his improvisation.

        smile
        Squid ...

        But, as it warms up - in every joke there is a fraction of a joke.
        Let's figure out what a “Plan” is. In this case, this provides the opportunity to manage the situation.
        But there is one more “but”: you can control only those systems in which all objects are stable and have predictable behavior.

        wink
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 30 January 2017 17: 18
          +1
          It’s stupid to think that we don’t have any plans. Neither by reflection, nor by striking back, and what are their goals, what we have studied far and wide.

          Of course there is. And with a weak case, they try to remind.
      2. gg.na
        gg.na 30 January 2017 13: 12
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        Neither by reflection nor by striking back,

        Greetings to a colleague! Naturally there will be an adequate response and not even frail, given the fact that there is still yellowstone. And I’ll say that I’m very unpleasant wassat thing! bully so let these demons of war think about it before doing any body movements in the direction of RUSSIA! bully
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 January 2017 14: 05
        +6
        Quote: vovanpain
        It’s stupid to think that we have no plans.

        Does anyone still doubt the need for such systems as Status-6? Or are there doubts that such a complex is being developed?
        Quote: vovanpain
        Neither by reflection, nor by retaliating, and what is their purpose, what we have studied far and wide.

        The fact is that the States look at it all, from the position of the first to strike ... and we, from the position of defense. The approaches are different. And in this regard, I am sure that such systems as Barguzin, Status-6, mobile systems with YaRS are vital for us.
    4. DenZ
      DenZ 30 January 2017 11: 13
      +3
      Quote: himRa
      Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,

      Not the fact, by the way, that it is now. What was before is beyond doubt, but its current state and presence in general seems to be under the heading "Secret."
      1. Alex_1973
        Alex_1973 30 January 2017 11: 40
        +3
        DenZ Today, 11:13 PM ↑ New
        Not the fact, by the way, that it is now.
        And where did she go then? Even if we assume that the drunk could drink it, it would be naive to think that Putin got into a conflict with the West without any concrete guarantees for a retaliatory nuclear strike.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 30 January 2017 13: 38
          0
          Quote: Alex_1973
          Even if we assume that the drunk could drink it, it would be naive to think that Putin got into a conflict with the West without any concrete guarantees for a retaliatory nuclear strike.

          Well, well, reinforced concrete argument.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 30 January 2017 14: 12
            +7
            Quote: DenZ
            Well, well, reinforced concrete argument.

            According to Wired magazine in 2009, the Perimeter system is operational and ready to strike back.

            In December 2011, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Lieutenant General Sergey Karakaev, stated that the Perimeter system exists and is on alert

            It’s known from open sources that the upgraded Perimeter system went on combat alert in 2011. All the rest of her secrets are under the stamp of special secrecy.
    5. Rash
      Rash 30 January 2017 11: 14
      +10
      Quote: himRa
      Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,

      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 30 January 2017 11: 51
        +3
        Quote: Rash
        Quote: himRa
        Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,


        If in American schools to show this installation as a response to any aggression and at the same time say that this bony is squeezed on their throat, then in a day the number of suicides will exceed the number of students and parents will be thrown out of windows shouting Russians are coming !!!

        You Dear on caution with such drawings! And then the mattress will look at the inadequate juvenile will put it on the network and there HZ that they can think out of their own folly !!! The consequences can be very unpredictable !! hi
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 30 January 2017 11: 19
      +5
      It would not be bad for American intelligence to assess the ability of the United States to survive a retaliatory nuclear strike ..
      And the consequences of nuclear exchanges for such a small planet Earth. Where there is the life of such Unreasonable
    7. kapitan92
      kapitan92 30 January 2017 11: 28
      +14
      Quote: himRa
      Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,

      It seems that in addition to ".... hands" there are more effective means.
      Since the 60s of the twentieth century, the KGB of the USSR began top-secret tests of tectonic weapons under the projects "Volcano" and "Mercury -18."
      The projects were related to the launch of artificial earthquakes using infra-low frequencies of 2,5 Hertz, and using underwater nuclear charges at the junction of tectonic plates in the ocean.
      The essence of this weapon: nuclear explosions at the depths of the ocean at the junctions of tectonic plates contribute to the displacement of tectonic plates, causing severe earthquakes and tsunamis with giant waves a hundred meters or more in height.
      The United Nations Organization — UN — has not adopted a single World Declaration prohibiting such weapons.
      These weapons are not mentioned in any of the adopted World Declarations.
      “The hydrophysical fleet of the USSR was the largest in the world ...
      It was not for nothing that the USSR provided assistance to Fidel Castro, preparing the ground for a surprise attack on the United States.
      Near Cuba, our scientists discovered thin nodes of lithospheric stresses.
      One charge weighing 100 kilograms is enough. to cause the Apocalypse off the coast of the United States. "
      “Employees of secret laboratories even today say that the war did not develop into World War III just because the USSR was several steps ahead of the Americans in creating unique weapons.
      The topic is strictly secret, but according to the introduction of “loshariks” and similar devices into the Navy of the Russian Federation, it says that the topic is lively and developing.
      So let the mattresses study and analyze, if God forbid this happens, then "let us sit down," as the hero of the film said.
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 30 January 2017 11: 54
        +2
        Yes, there were similar projects, but having studied their possible consequences, they were abandoned because there are a number of unpredictable consequences for the whole world! hi
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 30 January 2017 12: 00
          +7
          Quote: rasputin17
          Having studied their possible consequences, they were abandoned because there are a number of unpredictable consequences for the whole world!

          It seems that no one has refused this topic. Back in Soviet times, the effects of an explosion in a rock fault at the bottom were modeled. 2/3 of America and our Far East will disappear.
          Doomsday Weapon !!!
          1. rasputin17
            rasputin17 30 January 2017 12: 07
            +1
            I won’t argue! Like a doomsday weapon when everything has fallen and the 2 Dead Hand "will take everything into its power, then it’s all to swaddle! No US will not be THEM !!! ! hi
      2. Vitalson
        Vitalson 30 January 2017 12: 08
        0
        I think that since the 60s these achievements have already been destroyed.
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92 30 January 2017 15: 51
          +3
          Quote: Vitalson
          I think that since the 60s these achievements have already been destroyed.

          Rather, they are classified as "whole reel".
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 January 2017 23: 17
            0
            Perhaps this topic was covered up because it was a futile undertaking and did not bring any positive effect.
    8. MoJloT
      MoJloT 30 January 2017 11: 36
      +1
      There’s a thing, the field of how KP and communications will be destroyed, automation will give a signal to launch a rocket, which in turn should fly over the whole country and give a command to the stratum to those remaining in the ICBM combat readiness. But firstly, a single, easy target for interception, secondly, knowing where it should fly from, they will hit it first.
      1. Alex_1973
        Alex_1973 30 January 2017 12: 04
        +4
        MoJloT Today, 11:36 ↑
        There’s a thing, the field of how KP and communications will be destroyed, automation will give a signal to launch a rocket, which in turn should fly over the whole country and give a command to the stratum to those remaining in the ICBM combat readiness. But firstly, a single, easy target for interception, secondly, knowing where it should fly from, they will hit it first.
        Well, yes, it was created directly by DB ... fool Firstly, the command missile is not alone. Secondly, it will be problematic to intercept it, given that it is not located near the borders. Thirdly, the location of these missiles is known to a limited circle of people who can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Fourthly, our designers and developers should not be considered more stupid than you, you’re not good for them, it’s a fact.
        secondly, knowing where it should fly from, they will hit it first.
        Well, yes, this is well-known and accessible information. You pass by the guarded object, and there it says on the fence, "here is a top-secret perimeter command missile system" ... laughing
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 17
          0
          Most likely command missiles are all ICBMs in service, as well as A 50 and A 80 aircraft.
        2. MoJloT
          MoJloT 30 January 2017 12: 21
          0
          Well, thank God, apparently one of the designers granted us, either a person clearly aware of what is known and what is not for a potential adversary. Well, okay, I say - you should not underestimate the enemy, and really look at your own capabilities.
      2. rasputin17
        rasputin17 30 January 2017 12: 10
        +1
        And forgive me for my curiosity! hi Did you create this system or have a non-repulsive attitude to its operation or control on the database! ?? hi
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 30 January 2017 13: 49
          +3
          .......... is that true Military Review? only nothing passed 3-4 years ... several of our Dear ones died, Really understanding something, in this World, Colleagues .. and the site was taken ... no, not receivers .. and EGEshniki. you read, and you understand that the generation " Nekst ", leaked here, where a priori, there should be" specialists "... but no ... shkolota and here ... sad, the site disappeared.
          1. dauria
            dauria 30 January 2017 15: 24
            0
            .......... is that true Military Review?


            Also surprised. Plans and scenarios are in each General Staff of any of the parties at all times. They are of course adjusted. And the alleged losses are always calculated both their own and the enemy. This is the routine work of staff. And any military man knows and has more than once worked out his actions at least 40 minutes after the “whistle”. Why any statements in the media? It would be ridiculous if they had not calculated, and ours.
          2. gnol
            gnol 30 January 2017 20: 30
            0
            You are absolutely right! Sometimes you read such a grief of specialists! And remember how it used to be in VO! And a mean tear appears.
          3. ARES623
            ARES623 30 January 2017 21: 04
            0
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            you read, and you understand that the generation "next" has leaked here too, where a priori, there should be "specialists" ... but no ... shkolota and here ... sadly, the site disappeared.

            Dear Andrey Yuryevich! No hopes for the presence of “colleagues” and “specialists” on this resource can be nourished because they are busy with business and do not sit for days on end, trying to “launch” the brain to those who have cellulite left from the brain. A completely different category of citizens lives here. Remember the election counter in which parnassus with an apple had up to 15%, and what happened? Repeating the classics - they are terribly far from the people .... You can still fast, take and argue seriously - an empty idea. This is an open resource on which, to a greater extent, sit those who do not have x ... nothing. Where are the specialists from? wink
    9. oborzevatel
      oborzevatel 30 January 2017 13: 55
      0
      Quote: himRa
      Learn, study the devils!

      The whole world history of wars with Russia teaches that it is not so difficult to attack Russia, how to get out of there.
      1. himRa
        himRa 31 January 2017 07: 12
        +2
        To paraphrase it can be said that smart people think before doing something .... something like chess! And if the Americans had even the slightest opportunity in the past to deliver an unrequited preemptive nuclear strike, then they would have done this, for example, as in the case of Japan!
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 January 2017 10: 49
    +6
    It would be better if they appreciated the ability of the United States to survive a nuclear strike and stockpiled with diapers.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 30 January 2017 11: 10
      +6
      For the United States, the consequences will be more serious, the population density is higher than in the Russian Federation and is located on the coast.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 21
        +1
        "The population density is higher than in the Russian Federation and is located on the coast." The population will not attack - the primary targets are military and industrial, we won’t be able to hit everything, since warheads are not enough, you will have to choose the most priority objects, if you do not destroy the military infrastructure, consider that you lost.
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 30 January 2017 11: 37
      +1
      It would be better if they analyzed the accident from their ally .. strategic .. and its consequences for the region. So they swallowed the language.
      "The accident at the Fukushima-1 nuclear power plant is a major radiation accident of the maximum 7th level on the International Nuclear Event Scale, which occurred on March 11, 2011 as a result of the strongest earthquake in Japan’s history and the ensuing tsunami. The earthquake and tsunami shock disabled external power supplies and backup diesel generators, which caused the inoperability of all normal and emergency cooling systems and led to the melting of the reactor core at power units 1, 2 and 3 in the early days of the accident. "
  3. Maz
    Maz 30 January 2017 10: 49
    +2
    And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 30 January 2017 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.

      ... yeah, all 325 million people are human. That adder will be slop! Let them hide, we will not dig out because nefig ..
    2. 210ox
      210ox 30 January 2017 10: 59
      +2
      Where is it? In Hollywood movies or something? fool
      Quote: Maz
      And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 30 January 2017 11: 04
        0
        I add, the authorities will survive .. And the rest? ..
        Quote: 210ox
        Where is it? In Hollywood movies or something? fool
        Quote: Maz
        And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 24
          0
          Those who have a bomb shelter with everything necessary will survive, in the USA, the population in houses has fully equipped basements - especially in the tornado zone.
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 30 January 2017 17: 25
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        for nefig ... V.ic

        Quote: 210ox
        210Stock Today, 10: 59 ↑
        Where is it? In Hollywood movies or something?

        ... because we don't care ...
    3. dorz
      dorz 30 January 2017 11: 17
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.

      Americans do not care how many people die from nuclear weapons. They hid their main foreign exchange reserves deep underground at the naval base in Norfolk. And if there is an opportunity to destroy these reserves with a retaliatory strike, then there will never be a war ... smile
      1. Funnels
        Funnels 30 January 2017 12: 28
        +8
        After nuclear weapons, gold will become nothing, the main thing will be water and air and food. If Mother Earth survives this apocalypse.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 37
        +3
        The first thing there - to the depths, they will lower their declaration of independence, and then everything else.
      3. sir_obs
        sir_obs 30 January 2017 13: 20
        +1
        And who needs gold during the general devastation? Value. They will only have fuel, clean water and food, and, to some extent, warm clothes.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 January 2017 15: 36
          0
          There will be no general devastation - we will destroy a maximum of 40 percent of all US infrastructure.
      4. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 30 January 2017 14: 28
        +1
        Quote: dorz
        They hid their main foreign exchange reserves deep underground at the naval base in Norfolk.

        Yes, it seems that in Fort Knox they have a buried egg ... belay
      5. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 30 January 2017 14: 33
        0
        Do you confuse Fort Knox? Or do you know something? -))
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 30 January 2017 11: 22
      0
      Yamantau .. [media = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqv5jUUShU]
      1. thinker
        thinker 30 January 2017 11: 40
        +6
        And Yamantau and others - sad
    5. askort154
      askort154 30 January 2017 11: 30
      +4
      Maz ........ And they have underground cities at a depth of 300 meters. They will hide there.


      These are super-deep graves. yes
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 January 2017 19: 22
        0
        it will be ridiculous for me to watch from heaven how they crawl through the radioactive desert, leaving pieces of meat on the stones .... wassat
  4. bogart047
    bogart047 30 January 2017 10: 51
    +3
    better explore your ability to survive the blow. Then cry
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    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 38
      0
      Don’t worry about them, they’re much more ready for this than we are.
  5. cap
    cap 30 January 2017 10: 54
    0
    The initiative was supported by representatives of both major American parties - Republican and Democratic. Congressmen argued her with distrust of the Russian authorities and concern over China's growing confidence in its military power.


    Count foxes on a fur coat, strategists. In Russia, these animals are enough for everyone.
    As in that joke when, on the advice of the ensign, the commander hugged his wife from the back:
    "-that ensign, again the money ran out ...?" Silent scene.
    Let's see how many Arctic foxes are on their fur coats, and for what money the intelligence will work.
  6. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 30 January 2017 10: 57
    +2
    Our leadership has a bell. Again, it is necessary to restore the bunkers, and underground utilities, destroyed by drunken and labeled ones. And they closed and flooded them a lot.
    1. Vitalson
      Vitalson 30 January 2017 12: 06
      +2
      Don’t worry, they restore, paint, change equipment and put things in order for a long time. One of such shelters from my house is 100 meters away.
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 30 January 2017 12: 47
      0
      It’s easier not to restore anything, but just to buy everyone you need to buy. Even cheaper! Or is it not here that they write that “there” they will sell their mother for bucks? I don’t know about my mother, but few will refuse a bucket of Yakut diamonds ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 January 2017 15: 45
        0
        You get these diamonds from the beginning, in a full bucket, get it.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 30 January 2017 17: 21
          0
          Well then, let's repair the bomb shelters. And then the "bucket" is allegory ... Enough of the wallet too!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 January 2017 23: 24
            0
            I have already done mine for 2 years.
  7. Sergey F
    Sergey F 30 January 2017 10: 58
    +1
    But should Americans try to figure out America’s ability to survive a nuclear strike?
    After all, there was a time when every American tried to dig a hole for shelter!
    Probably forgotten!
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 30 January 2017 11: 04
      +4
      and what do they remember then? sat out of the puddle ... dug digging with a fool ...
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 January 2017 11: 16
      0
      For Sergey F
      Probably forgotten!

      No, I’m not forgotten. They started digging again and home bomb shelter companies started to rise financially. When you, as in the 60s, are hammered daily about the “Russian threat”, then you will inevitably begin to dig.
      1. Sergey F
        Sergey F 30 January 2017 19: 59
        0
        Notice, they are testing Russia for strength, but they are digging themselves!
  8. snifer
    snifer 30 January 2017 11: 00
    0
    Trump Ch.M.O. wassat
    1. himRa
      himRa 30 January 2017 11: 03
      +2
      Do not sneak! wassat By the way, this study was conducted before Trump laughing
  9. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 January 2017 11: 01
    +5
    US intelligence assesses Russia's ability to survive a nuclear strike

    worry for a start yourself ...
  10. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 30 January 2017 11: 13
    0
    Hmm .. they have fun. mattresses in modern design must be prohibited, they will not give life.
    1. snifer
      snifer 30 January 2017 11: 20
      +1
      into her radioactive ashes fellow
      1. thinker
        thinker 30 January 2017 11: 35
        +4
        Well and, accordingly,
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        2. snifer
          snifer 30 January 2017 11: 40
          +1
          It’s a pity - to live in this wonderful season. I don’t have to - neither to me nor to you
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 29
        +1
        An interesting picture - how Solovyov, the Kremlin and TVs withstood nuclear explosions?
        1. Ayratelinsion
          Ayratelinsion 30 January 2017 19: 17
          0
          Staples, it's all about them
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 January 2017 23: 27
            0
            Probably a "super putty" from Nanochubais.
  11. VladimS
    VladimS 30 January 2017 11: 55
    0
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    Trump is such a pro-Russian candidate that he will “weaken” sanctions, and not cancel. Soon everyone will be screaming that Trump hm)))

    Rather, this will happen to you, on your similar "comments"
  12. viktor.
    viktor. 30 January 2017 11: 58
    +1
    interestingly they are studying whether Russia and China will survive, God forbid, of course. Will you survive ????? !!
  13. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 January 2017 11: 59
    +3
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Russia ...
    .. "The Kalashnikov concern (part of Rostec) announced plans in 2017 to create an additional 1,7 thousand jobs (an increase of 30%) and transfer the enterprise to work in three shifts. This was reported on the concern’s website. "... https: //www.gazeta.ru/army/news/962
    4191.shtml
  14. Vitalson
    Vitalson 30 January 2017 12: 03
    +2
    Yes, they have been conducting these studies since they had a nuclear bomb. Only all their research comes to a standstill when they begin to calculate the consequences of a retaliatory strike. Well, the residents of the mattress sitting here, let's talk about the "invulnerability" of your island ...
  15. Oriental express
    Oriental express 30 January 2017 12: 03
    +3
    Oh, how frankly they started to act. Under such conditions, the Russian Federation can no longer reduce its nuclear weapons by a single charge.
  16. Vitalson
    Vitalson 30 January 2017 12: 05
    +1
    Quote: snifer
    Trump Ch.M.O. wassat

    stands for Man of the Moscow Region?
  17. Vitalson
    Vitalson 30 January 2017 12: 09
    0
    Quote: rasputin17
    Quote: Rash
    Quote: himRa
    Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,


    If in American schools to show this installation as a response to any aggression and at the same time say that this bony is squeezed on their throat, then in a day the number of suicides will exceed the number of students and parents will be thrown out of windows shouting Russians are coming !!!

    You Dear on caution with such drawings! And then the mattress will look at the inadequate juvenile will put it on the network and there HZ that they can think out of their own folly !!! The consequences can be very unpredictable !! hi

    Yes, an adult mattress is not a pity.
  18. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 30 January 2017 12: 39
    +3
    Quote: Vitalson
    Don’t worry, they restore, paint, change equipment and put things in order for a long time. One of such shelters from my house is 100 meters away.

    This is good. But it’s not like that everywhere! I don’t want what our deputies want. They will do anything not to allocate money for restoration. Quotation; In the State Duma they named the advantages of Russia over the USA in case of a nuclear strike, in its large territory. Here and all the benefits. They hope to survive under the dome of the Kremlin:
  19. kalibr
    kalibr 30 January 2017 12: 43
    +2
    They already conducted a similar study in 1959. And they found out that a massive nuclear strike against the USSR was impossible! Why? Over (!) 50% of aircraft will be shot down! With this rate of loss, "the crews of the surviving aircraft will revolt and refuse to carry out the combat mission! Meanwhile, Soviet troops will reach the Atlantic and Indian Oceans." This is from their report, it was published and translated ... a long time ago!
    Then there was a study in the early 90s ... the US army occupies the territory of Russia. It's even funnier! A third sniff - "Com, Johnny, a drink!" and all! The second third massively marry Russian girls! Well, there’s no need to explain why. But the third ... "Russian partisans will kill from the sewer manholes." Why from hatches? Well, so...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 January 2017 12: 50
      +1
      "Why precisely from the hatches? Well, like that ..." - Because the sewer system in Russia is the best developed in the world.
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 30 January 2017 17: 04
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      But the third ... "Russian partisans will kill from the sewer manholes." Why from hatches?

      In short: collaborators are “banging” in one way or another, do not make excuses!
  20. Pirate
    Pirate 30 January 2017 12: 54
    0
    I would like to look at the results for Russia and China later.
  21. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 30 January 2017 13: 18
    +2
    Yes, no matter how much they count and wonder, but as long as we remember what a coil with a wire is on the back of a telephone operator, a telephone with a pen on the table will work for us, but they will have a simple collapse from a simple power outage. Let them evaluate their capabilities better.
  22. raid14
    raid14 30 January 2017 13: 19
    +1
    Submit information after censorship?
    In the article about the START-3 treaty of April 8, 2010 and entered into force on February 5, 2011, signed by Medvedev D.A. and Obama B.Kh. shamefully kept silent.
    And about the SOR agreement of May 24, 2002, which entered into force on June 1, 2003, not a word in the article.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/СНВ-III
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Договор_о_сокращени
    and strategic offensive potentials
  23. weksha50
    weksha50 30 January 2017 13: 21
    0
    "US intelligence assesses Russia's ability to survive a nuclear strike"...

    It would be better to evaluate whether the USA will survive ... This question is closer to their bodies (if there are no brains) and more topical ...
    It seems that they think of themselves that they are immortal ... Chakhliks are immortal ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 January 2017 15: 40
      +1
      Immortality will be given to them by missile defense systems - it’s like Trump has already instructed to analyze the effectiveness and strengthening of missile defense systems, so the United States will have more and more of them every year
  24. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 January 2017 13: 35
    0
    And they don’t want to study the consequences of
    what will fly back to them in a retaliatory strike?
    Dreamers, damn it ...
  25. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 January 2017 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: iConst
    Let's figure out what a “Plan” is. In this case, this provides the opportunity to manage the situation.
    But there is one more “but”: you can control only those systems in which all objects are stable and have predictable behavior.

    As the movie heroes say, "Plan A did not work, proceed to Plan B". In such cases they say not “a plan”, but rather “a set of planned measures, which, depending on the situation and results, provides ....”, and so on in ten volumes. I was always amazed at the ability of some people to express themselves so “succinctly”. lol
  26. Old26
    Old26 30 January 2017 13: 52
    0
    Quote: MoJloT
    There’s a thing, the field of how KP and communications will be destroyed, automation will give a signal to launch a rocket, which in turn should fly over the whole country and give a command to the stratum to those remaining in the ICBM combat readiness. But firstly, a single, easy target for interception, secondly, knowing where it should fly from, they will hit it first.

    It is interesting, and who is to intercept it over the territory of Russia?

    Quote: Vadim237
    Most likely command missiles are all ICBMs in service, as well as A 50 and A 80 aircraft.

    And where does all the ICBMs and AWACS planes? The Siren complex has been on the database for a quarter of a century. How many Americans they know, exactly the same as we know where the American command missiles are.

    Quote: Oriental Express
    Oh, how frankly they started to act. Under such conditions, the Russian Federation can no longer reduce its nuclear weapons by a single charge.

    Damn, such studies are regularly conducted by both Americans and us. There is nothing frank in this. Routine research.
  27. midshipman
    midshipman 30 January 2017 14: 00
    +3
    In 1984, they conducted headquarters exercises to evaluate the use of US nuclear weapons. I assessed the consequences of delivering 2 strikes in Georgia and 2 strikes in Armenia. Conclusion, withstood. I have the honor.
  28. valerian
    valerian 30 January 2017 14: 17
    0
    Learn better about how you will survive in your AI after the answer.
  29. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 30 January 2017 14: 45
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    Why are there no other countries on the list such as the USA, England, France and Canada?
    Dubbing in the US is better to analyze earlier, because otherwise there will be no one.
  30. kg pv
    kg pv 30 January 2017 17: 17
    +1
    Interestingly, they are considering a simultaneous strike on Russia and China, or on someone alone? Just in case of an answer from both at once, the chances of survival for at least someone in the USA themselves are clearly striving for absolute zero.
  31. kalibr
    kalibr 30 January 2017 17: 23
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    Quote: V.ic
    In short: collaborators are “banging” in one way or another, do not make excuses!

    Why are you doing this?
  32. Region39
    Region39 30 January 2017 17: 27
    0
    America knows very well that Russia, if a nuclear strike is launched on it, will inflict unacceptable damage on the United States. Nevertheless, they are still researching whether Russia can survive the atomic strike. If they understand that the States will be destroyed .. then what research data ... ??? Apparently a certain group of people doesn’t really care what will happen to the States ... they need something else, namely, how much Russia will suffer and whether it will be possible to occupy it in the future in order to seize its natural resources.
  33. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 30 January 2017 18: 00
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    Earlier, US President Donald Trump said that easing anti-Russian sanctions could be linked to the conclusion of a bilateral treaty on the reduction of nuclear weapons. The Russian leadership refused to link the two questions.

    I’m giving them Russian cookie too, and not a reduction of Russian nuclear weapons. Not under any pretext.
    Enough of the Russian Orthodox, count them as fools. Well, or let them think. But the Russian Orthodox, Russia Orthodox, are smart, kind, peaceful, good, cunning, with
    strong, powerful, fast. There will be no reduction of Russian nuclear weapons in Russia, Russia will never need to do this, Russia will never be. Enough of us to keep fools here, pretend to be peaceful, pink elephants, smile at us. clap, tell us: "We are friends, brothers, let's disarm and all that." And they themselves will not disarm, they themselves will advance their military bases to Russia, surround Russia, the Russians, missile defense systems, send saboteurs and spies to Russia and divide people in Russia, set them against each other. And they themselves, smiling, will tell us: " Well, what are you, NATO bases are to protect Russians, Russia from Russians; missile defense is to protect Russia from all sorts of enemies. Etc. etc. .. "And slap on the shoulder and smile at us sweetly like Borka Yeltsin.
    No, well, is this not idiocy?
    I’m giving them Russian cookie too!
    And if they apply Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox-a nuclear strike-let them know that the punishment will be inevitable. Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox-will certainly punish them. Especially those who give this order are customers and executors. Nobody will leave anywhere punishments: they will get out of the ground, they will find it in the next world.
    Russian Orthodox, Orthodox Russia-does not attack first, does not capture anyone. Even a pre-emptive strike will not do. But whoever attacks Russia will make a nuclear strike, Russia will find the customers and performers from the underground, in the next world the Russians will find. There will be nothing left of the aggressor. It is possible, even memory. Their people will curse them for this, because if they give an order to attack Russia.
    1. Ayratelinsion
      Ayratelinsion 30 January 2017 19: 21
      +2
      I hope that you have turned your brains into porridge, not contagious
  34. gaudin
    gaudin 30 January 2017 18: 43
    0
    Quote: himRa
    we have ,, dead hand ,,

    There is no dead hand, and there was none.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 January 2017 23: 56
      0
      Yes, there are such speculations - this system will not be able to launch missiles from bombers, since they will not know whether they took off or not, and in fact the system itself should be an artificial intellect that works independently of people, which in itself is dangerous if its failure or abnormal work, and the conclusion suggests itself is that the “Perimeter” is a complex of government communications with the Strategic Missile Forces troops, which includes a nuclear briefcase, A 50 aircraft - in the future A 100, and a Doomsday aircraft A 80 and, accordingly, ground communication channels , as well as the SPRN system, and there aren’t any command missiles — all of our missiles and mines with launchers were inspected by the Americans, and we did not find extra missiles with powerful antennas and communication systems on board instead of warheads under the SALT 3 agreements.
    2. himRa
      himRa 31 January 2017 07: 19
      +2
      Quote: gaudin
      There is no dead hand, and there was none.

      Where do such statements come from !? You as a child by golly
      How can you know this, was, was not, is or is not
      I can also say that if the Americans had even the slightest opportunity to deliver a preemptive and unrequited nuclear (simple) attack on the USSR, and in this case the Russian Federation, they would did it! Japan can serve as an example!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 January 2017 10: 59
        0
        "Japan can serve as an example" - Japan did not have nuclear weapons and parity in warheads either - so the example does not fit.
        1. himRa
          himRa 31 January 2017 12: 23
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          "Japan can serve as an example" - Japan did not have nuclear weapons and parity in warheads either - so the example does not fit.

          I can also say that if the Americans had at least the slightest opportunity to deliver a preemptive and unrequited nuclear (simple) strike on the USSR, and in this case the Russian Federation, they would do it! Japan can serve as an example!

          read the text carefully! your statement that we did not have and there is no answer for the Americans unreasonable and my thing is that they didn’t attack and are constantly exploring this possibility but don't attack Reasonably read the topic above ....
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 January 2017 15: 18
            0
            "Your statement that we did not have and there is no answer for the Americans is unreasonable" -This is where I said this? We have an answer - strategic troops and 1700 warheads, of constant readiness.
      2. gaudin
        gaudin 1 February 2017 16: 07
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        Quote: himRa
        Where do such statements come from !? You as a child by golly

        From the former commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, he spoke live on how the system actually works, there is a video on YouTube.
        1. himRa
          himRa 1 February 2017 17: 56
          +2
          Speaking of the military, the Strategic Missile Forces Commander told the public what we had in the USSR? you yourself believe him if many facts about the Second World War are still classified ... such things are not disclosed never what I’m talking about potential about combat potential I’ll say easier, you don’t even know now how many conscripts can be drafted into the army when general mobilization is announced (this is mobilization potential) hi
          And a comment on the future if you want to discuss with you, justify your statements (for example, a video with the former commander of the Strategic Missile Forces
  35. Old26
    Old26 30 January 2017 20: 44
    0
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    I’m giving them Russian cookie too, and not a reduction of Russian nuclear weapons. Not under any pretext.
    Enough of the Russian Orthodox, count them as fools. Well, or let them think. But the Russian Orthodox, Russia Orthodox, are smart, kind, peaceful, good, cunning, with
    strong, powerful, fast. There will be no reduction of Russian nuclear weapons in Russia, Russia will never need to do this, Russia will never be. Enough of us to keep fools here, pretend to be peaceful, pink elephants, smile at us. clap, tell us: "We are friends, brothers, let's disarm and all that." And they themselves will not disarm, they themselves will advance their military bases to Russia, surround Russia, the Russians, missile defense systems, send saboteurs and spies to Russia and divide people in Russia, set them against each other. And they themselves, smiling, will tell us: " Well, what are you, NATO bases are to protect Russians, Russia from Russians; missile defense is to protect Russia from all sorts of enemies. Etc. etc. .. "And slap on the shoulder and smile at us sweetly like Borka Yeltsin.
    No, well, is this not idiocy?
    I’m giving them Russian cookie too!
    And if they apply Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox-a nuclear strike-let them know that the punishment will be inevitable. Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox-will certainly punish them. Especially those who give this order are customers and executors. Nobody will leave anywhere punishments: they will get out of the ground, they will find it in the next world.
    Russian Orthodox, Orthodox Russia-does not attack first, does not capture anyone. Even a pre-emptive strike will not do. But whoever attacks Russia will make a nuclear strike, Russia will find the customers and performers from the underground, in the next world the Russians will find. There will be nothing left of the aggressor. It is possible, even memory. Their people will curse them for this, because if they give an order to attack Russia.

    Effectively, emotionally, but stupid. It will be necessary to conclude another agreement, if it is mutually beneficial, they will conclude it. Not needed - they will not conclude. But in any case, the existing will most likely have to be rolled over. Both sides have an excess of undeployed missiles, mines and warheads.

    Quote: gaudin
    There is no dead hand, and there was none.

    What happened? It is understood that the term "Dead Hand" is journalistic ...
  36. rus-5819
    rus-5819 30 January 2017 21: 33
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    Quote: himRa
    Study, study the devils! Yes, do not forget we have a ,, dead hand ,,


    In response to the additional deployment of NATO forces in the Baltic states, Russia threatened to return the ensigns to the MTO system! For while the ensigns are in stock, Russia is invincible! (banter, if that)

    US intelligence ... amid the latest posts from Twitter and Facebook .... already funny ...
    1. himRa
      himRa 31 January 2017 07: 21
      +2
      Quote: rus-5819
      warrant officers in the MTO system!

      And that was crucial in making the decision! wassat hi
  37. Anton Valerevich
    Anton Valerevich 30 January 2017 22: 25
    0
    Damage from weapons of mass destruction directly depends on the area of ​​the attacked country and the average population density. Everything is clear here!
    1. Vӧrsa
      Vӧrsa 31 January 2017 01: 24
      0
      There will be no planet! The defeat is total !!! How much to explain to you - no one will survive without an atmosphere.
  38. VladimS
    VladimS 30 January 2017 22: 37
    0
    Quote: gaudin
    Quote: himRa
    we have ,, dead hand ,,

    There is no dead hand, and there was none.

    Would you like to check? Oh well...!
  39. Vӧrsa
    Vӧrsa 31 January 2017 01: 22
    0
    Quote:
    - Or maybe we’ll fuck it!
    - Be sure to bang! The whole WORLD is in ruins !!! ... BUT ... Not this hour. (c / f DMB)
    They stupid people there do not understand: that only the United States and Russia will have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the ENTIRE PLANET OF THE EARTH 6 TIMES. Then there is neither what nor who will not survive (even in the bunker) !!!
    I understand everything - politics, mass management, but the masses must also at least understand!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 January 2017 15: 34
      0
      "They are stupid people who don’t understand: that only the United States and Russia will have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH 6 TIMES." - It’s just that we stupid people claim that with the help of the existing arsenal, which is 1700 and 1600 warheads with power from 150 to 500 kilotons, you can destroy planet Earth several times, one warhead covers about 60 square kilometers of the surface, the surface area of ​​planet Earth is 510000000 square kilometers, all 3300 warheads of Russia and the USA combined will cover an area of ​​only 198000 square kilometers - without taking into account the radioactive trail - the planet Earth will survive but will be contaminated with decay products, plants, animals, people will live on, only in new environmental conditions - neither what end of the world will not be.
  40. Old26
    Old26 31 January 2017 08: 22
    +1
    Quote: himRa
    and they had few charges at that time — they did not cover 20 cities!

    More than tenfold coverage

    Quote: Orionvit
    At the end of the 40s, the states had more than 300 nuclear warheads, enough to strike at major cities and important targets

    You are wrong, like your opponent. At the end of 1949, the United States had 235 charges. But at the end of 1950 - indeed more than 300, or rather 369
    1. himRa
      himRa 1 February 2017 18: 04
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      More than tenfold coverage

      Dear, read our discussion with Orionvit
      there I gave a table of how many and what charges the United States had
      I will say it again I’m sure that if, as a result of the study, US analysts came to the conclusion that the possibility of a nuclear blitzkrieg without harming their country, they would certainly attack, as is the case with Japan hi
  41. Orionvit
    Orionvit 31 January 2017 12: 34
    0
    Quote: himRa
    cease to respect as an interlocutor. on that and say goodbye.

    Yes, I like the respect of various "all-knowing" storytellers with their "argumentation" dug on Wikipedia, to a light bulb.
  42. Old26
    Old26 1 February 2017 20: 06
    0
    Quote: himRa
    Dear, read our discussion with Orionvit
    there I gave a table of how many and what charges the United States had
    I will say it again I’m sure that if, as a result of the study, US analysts came to the conclusion that the possibility of a nuclear blitzkrieg without harming their country, they would certainly attack, as is the case with Japan

    I carefully read your discussion with Orionvit. And I looked at the table. And your phrase that there were few charges at that time, so I didn’t cover 20 cities either.
    And he wrote that this is your mistake. If the country at the end of 1950 had almost 400 charges, or rather 369, then they cover 20 cities almost 20 times.
    Your table requires a small adjustment, mainly on charges.

    Quote: himRa
    U.S.:
    1946: 125 carriers (9 bombs),
    1947: 270 carriers (13 bombs),
    1948: 473 carriers (50 bombs),
    1949: 447 carriers (200 bombs),
    1950: 462 carriers (400 bombs),


    You can make corrections to your table on the number of strategic bombers in the US strategic aviation nuclear command
    1945 = 15 bombers In-29 и 6 bombs
    1946 = 148 bombers In-29 (of which are equipped for nuclear bombing 125) and
    11 bombs
    1947 = 319 bombers In-29 (of which are equipped for nuclear bombing 270) and
    32 bombs
    1948 = 556 bombers, including 486 V-29, 35 V-36, 35 V-50 (of which are equipped for nuclear
    bombing 486 V-29, 18 V-36, 35 V-50. Total 475 bombers) and 110 bombs
    1949 = 525 bombers, including 390 V-29, 35 V-36, 99 V-50 (of which are equipped for nuclear
    bombing 330 V-29, 18 V-36, 99 V-50. Total 447 bombers) and 235 bombs
    1945 = 556 bombers, including 286 V-29, 38 V-36, 195 V-50 (of which are equipped for nuclear
    bombing 230 V-29, 36 V-36, 195 V-50. Total 462 bomber) and 330 bombs

    So.
    1. The strategic nuclear aviation command included several more aircraft than were equipped for nuclear bombing. It was a reserve that could always be equipped. But the production of nuclear weapons was lagging behind the number of nuclear bombers
    2. The number of nuclear bombs was still slightly less than you indicate. All the lack of time to compare by type. but in numerous materials the number 1946, rather than 11 bombs, is still most often found in 9. For 1947 - 32, not 13, for 1948 - 110, not 50, for 1949 - 235, not 200, and finally for 1950 - 369, not 400.
    3. Of course, the numbers vary depending on the sources, but in none of them did I see 1950 bombs in 400. There are discrepancies in the data for 1948 - from 100 to 110, for 1949 - from 200 to 235 and for 1950 - 330 to 369.
    Do not think that I will find fault with your numbers, but to have one more source is by no means superfluous

    Quote: himRa
    They didn’t have the opportunity ... the minimum losses are 50% and it’s not a fact, but the fact that the pilots knowing the losses refused to fly is another argument
    and they had few charges at that time — they did not cover 20 cities!

    Losses according to forecasts they really had to be huge and this is one of the factors that they could not deliver an unrequited nuclear strike. It was planned in order to avoid huge losses to launch jointly nuclear and non-nuclear bombers. As for the 20 cities, having in 1948 110 charges, even with the loss of 50% of cars. 55 charges are enough to attack 20 cities. Accordingly, at 235 and 369 - even more so.
    Well, after the explosion of the Soviet atomic bomb for the United States, it became clear that there would be no Bose response. A nuclear strike too
  43. Old26
    Old26 1 February 2017 22: 16
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    Yes, there are such speculations - this system will not be able to launch missiles from bombers, since they will not know whether they took off or not, and in fact the system itself should be an artificial intellect that works independently of people, which in itself is dangerous if its failure or abnormal work, and the conclusion suggests itself is that the “Perimeter” is a complex of government communications with the Strategic Missile Forces troops, which includes a nuclear briefcase, A 50 aircraft - in the future A 100, and a Doomsday aircraft A 80 and, accordingly, ground communication channels , as well as the SPRN system, and there aren’t any command missiles — all of our missiles and mines with launchers were inspected by the Americans, and we did not find extra missiles with powerful antennas and communication systems on board instead of warheads under the SALT 3 agreements.


    Of course inspected. And they were shown them. And they are among those undeployed missiles. And you are right, this is a backup communication system and issuing launch commands. There are ground-based communications, the same Russian Orthodox Church, probably some other components. But neither SPRN nor A-50 / A-100 have anything to do with this. This system may interact with them, but it is not part of it. And A-80 ... This is a masterpiece. And where did you find such a designation of the CPSU based on IL-86, called EMNIP IL-80, but not A-80. Where did you "dug" this name
    There is also a system similar to the "Perimeter" in the Navy, there is in the Air Force. But we don’t know how it (they) work (except for command missiles). And it’s good that we don’t know.
    By the way, this is the third missile in this system. The first was 15A11, the second “Horn” and now the third (now) - “Siren”
  44. gaudin
    gaudin 2 February 2017 00: 24
    0
    Quote: himRa
    Speaking of the military, the Strategic Missile Forces Commander told the public what we had in the USSR? do you yourself believe him? hi
    And a comment on the future if you want to discuss with you, justify your statements (for example, a video with the former commander of the Strategic Missile Forces

    This video accidentally found where and when I don’t remember, so it’s hard to give a link to the video, but I can’t find it right away. Regarding the commander: I believe him, he did not tell anything secret, I received similar information from other sources, "Dead Hand" is a normal automatic communication system and nothing more. In the event of a nuclear strike on the Soviet Union, the system recorded radiation contamination and seismic activity. She automatically contacted the command center, if there was no connection, she contacted the surviving reserve command centers and missile bases, and the man himself at the console made the decision to retaliate.
  45. Old26
    Old26 2 February 2017 07: 57
    0
    Quote: gaudin
    she contacted the surviving reserve command centers and missile bases and the man himself at the console made the decision to retaliate.

    In fact, it’s difficult to talk about the algorithm of the system. Those who served her keep their mouths shut (and rightly so). But the last statement that “they made decisions behind the consoles” can hardly be considered true. I can only refer to the recollection of one of those who served on it. It was on one of the thematic resources of the Strategic Missile Forces on the network. According to him, at the time of testing the EMNIP in Plesetsk, several mines were equipped with the antenna complex of this system and the system was tested. A command rocket was launched, which launched in rocket-free mode. This is all that can be reliably based on open sources. And actually the topic "perimeter" is not such as to drip into it