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Arctic pie: a lot of pieces, but not enough for everyone

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In the Arctic, Russia's interests are actively opposed by Denmark. According to the head of the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation, to the Danes "there are serious issues." The fact is that a significant part of the Danish Arctic application is based on the use of geological materials ... Russia.




Did the Danes get carried away with geological plagiarism? Let's try to figure it out.

History With the Arctic shelf stretches for quite a long time, since the beginning of the century. And nothing has changed.

Since 2001, Moscow has unsuccessfully proved to the world community that the underwater ridge of Lomonosov is a continuation of Eurasia, that is, it seems to be part of the territory of the Russian Federation. This year after year, evidence is examined (and some successfully rejected) by the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf. It includes more than two dozen experts from different countries. They sit several times a year. Usually, the “congress” of experts, at which applications are considered (and any decision is made or not on them), lasts for 4-5 days.

At the end of 2001, Moscow submitted its first application to the UN Commission for the extension of the Arctic shelf.

Recall, according to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, the economic zone of states is allowed to expand, but under one condition: the seabed outside the zone is a natural extension of the continent's edge. The boundaries of the shelf belonging to a certain state, by default, are recognized as equal to two hundred nautical miles. In its application, Moscow insisted on the right of inclusion in its continental shelf submarine spaces off the northern coast and east coast. Scientists from Russia who know about the hydrocarbon riches of the Arctic shelf, made an attempt to convince UN experts of the Lomonosov ridge to belong to the Eurasian continent. International experts did not approve the application due to insufficient evidence. That application was considered relatively quickly: in June 2002, the document was rejected indicating insufficient detailing of the bottom relief maps and insufficient substantiation of the continental nature of the elevations mentioned in the list and their connection with the Siberian shelf.

Years passed, during which a new application was prepared. This is not just a piece of paper: relevant studies have been conducted.

In order to study the Arctic Ocean shelf in May-September 2007, Russia organized the expedition “Arctic-2007”. 1 August scientists reached the North Pole, and the next day, the deep-sea habitable apparatuses Mir-1 and Mir-2 descended to the bottom and carried out oceanographic, hydrometeorological and ice surveys, for the first time in history, they conducted an experiment to collect soil and flora from depth 4261 meter. The results of the expedition became the basis of the position of Russia in deciding the issue of belonging to the relevant part of the Arctic shelf.

A few years later, in the autumn of 2014, when the scientific ship Akademik Fyodorov returned from the Arctic, Moscow announced the completion of work to form an application to the UN to extend the shelf.

In the new expanded application of Russia, among other things, it was pointed out that there were unresolved questions about the delimitation of maritime spaces with Denmark and Canada. The fact is that Denmark’s application to the shelf north of Greenland, filed in December 2014 of the year, blocked the areas included in the Russian application (polar region and part of the Lomonosov Ridge). Canada’s application may concern Mendeleev’s uplift (reference is given to RIA News").

Expanded application of Russia, recalls TASS, discussed at the 41 session of the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in August 2016. Later, in December of 2016, Moscow submitted to the commission’s experts additional information justifying the application.

According to the director of the Institute of Petroleum Geology and Geophysics (INGG SB RAS), Academician Mikhail Epov, the updated Russian application, which was considered by UN experts in August 2016, is very demonstrative.

The first application of Russia, the expert noted, did not pass due to the lack of evidence base (reliable geological data and seismic exploration). "I believe that now the data are presented with a very high degree of reliability," - quotes the scientist RIA News".

“One of the main evidence is the findings of paleontologists, who establish the age of the finds and paleogeography. This is one of the reliable evidence that at that time it was a continent, and not a sea, ”said Epov.

He also noted that if basic research in the relevant field had not begun seventy years ago, now Russia would have nothing to imagine the UN.

An extended application, we add, the UN experts can consider for a long time, for example, five years or a little less. The term of consideration can be reduced by negotiation. But so far there is no progress in this direction.

What does Russia want today? The same as before. She plans to “connect” the Lomonosov Ridge and other areas of the seabed, including the Podvodnikov basin, the Mendeleev Ridge, the southern tip of the Gakkel Ridge and the North Pole zone.

Why is this necessary? Russia plans to “grow” the Arctic not only geographically, but also “hydrocarbonically”: there, as it is supposed, mineral reserves are large.

There are about six dozen fields located beyond the Arctic Circle, and of these 43 are located in the Russian Federation sector. The total resources of the Russian Arctic are estimated by experts in 106 billion tons of oil equivalent, and gas reserves in 69,5 trillion. cubic meters. According to some minimum estimates, the “increment” of the above-mentioned part of the Arctic by Russia would have made it possible to obtain quantities of hydrocarbons, which would be enough to produce 5 billion tons of standard fuel.

The Arctic is engaged not only in the indicated UN commission.

Unlike issues of geology and geography, the Arctic Council solves issues of international cooperation in the Arctic. This organization was established in 1996 year in accordance with the Ottawa Declaration. The Intergovernmental Forum promotes cooperation, primarily in the field of environmental protection.

The members of the Arctic Council are Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden and the United States.

And recently, Moscow was politely reminded of the need for a “constructive” approach within this Council.

As Margot Wallstrom, Swedish Foreign Minister, said the other day, the Arctic Council remains an important platform for constructive discussions with Russia. “All forums dedicated to international cooperation are especially important now, when nationalism and polarization are growing, and the idea that countries should think first and foremost about their own interests and not look for multilateral solutions is gaining more and more popularity,” Vallstrom said. international conference "Arctic Frontiers" in the Norwegian polar city of Tromsø. “In addition, we are pleased to have the opportunity to work with Russia in the Arctic Council and conduct a constructive dialogue with it, although in other areas we may experience a conflict of interest” (quoted by TASS).

It is important to know that in 2015, the chairmanship of the Council passed (for two years) to the United States. In May 2017, the States will hand over the Finnish presidency. In the meantime, everyone is looking at Trump. Including Russia.

Recently, on January 21, the head of the Ministry of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation, Sergey Donskoy, made a statement, which has spread all over the Russian press.

According to him, Russia has a number of significant observations on the justification of the Danish application for expanding the borders of the shelf in the Arctic, including the use of Russian geological information. "We are negotiating not only in the UN Committee, but also with countries that border with us, with Denmark, Canada," - quotes him Interfax.

“So far we have questions for the Danes. Specialists of the Ministry of Environment were in December in Copenhagen, and there they presented a preliminary concept, ”said Donskoy. - In addition, comments were submitted regarding their application. We showed where we diverged, and seriously enough. " “We have main observations in the justification. Given that most of the Danish application is based on the use of our geological materials, ”the minister added.

Where did the Danes take the Russian materials?

According to Donskoy, these materials were open to analysis for reasonableness.

Also, the head of the Ministry of Environment said that the Russian side in the future will hold talks with the United States on the issue of expanding borders in the Arctic, despite the fact that Washington has not ratified the agreement on the delimitation of the Arctic continental shelf.

Is there any chance of such negotiations? And what will they be like if Washington has not even ratified the necessary agreement?

“What will be the procedure - this is already a matter of the future, but in any case, the negotiations will have to be held,” believes Donskoy. He also noted transmits TASSthat Russia has always taken into account the fact of disagreement by the United States with the Russian bid to expand the limits of the continental shelf in the Arctic.

“Naturally, we considered all this as a fact, it has long been known. The second point is that in any case we have, in addition to the fact that the (UN) commission has to consider the application and confirm its validity, further (coming) negotiations with those countries with which we border: Danes, Canadians, ”the minister said. agency.

Meanwhile, in other countries, Trump is simply being laughed at, exposing him in a bad light.

“Donald Trump heard about the Arctic?” - пишет Silke Bigalke in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung. And he adds: “No one knows what Trump’s policy in the Arctic will be like,” said David Balton, US representative on the Arctic Council, and he should be aware of it. Balton will chair the meetings of the Arctic Council while the United States holds the presidency before the powers will be transferred to Finland in May. Former President Barack Obama became the first US president to visit the US Arctic, and later banned oil and gas production in large parts of the region. “Do you think Trump ever heard of the Arctic?” The host asks Balton. "Apparently not," he answers.

Some Russian experts, however, are optimistic about Russia's arctic future.

“If the decision of the commission is not in our favor, we can always try to“ come in ”from the other side,” said "Free Press" Alexander Shpunt, Director General of the Institute for Political Analysis Tools. - In any case, I see no reason not to try to enlist the support of the main international organization. We already had a positive experience when the Sea of ​​Okhotsk was recognized as the exclusive economic zone of Russia. You can try to repeat. "

The situation with the Arctic "increment", we add, should be considered still uncertain. The UN Commission, which has been dragging on the recognition of Russian territories for so many years, will undoubtedly continue to pull. Apparently, Moscow is counting on some support from Washington, relying on Donald Trump. It seems to us that such hopes are meaningless. Trump is a US president, not a Russian one, and he clearly does not intend to expand Russia geographically. He will not strengthen the political opponent, it is obvious. In addition, the United States has not yet ratified the agreement on the delimitation of the Arctic continental shelf.

Probably, the main disputes over the shelf will unfold not now, but in the warm season: in May, the chairmanship of the Arctic Council will be transferred to Finland, and in the summer the United Nations commission will change its composition.

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  1. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 27 January 2017 06: 54 New
    +2
    Enough already. We surrendered to the dashing 90s. Where each message considered itself right to dictate terms to us. Alexander Shpunt is right. I think "the partners heard his words. First we’ll try to agree on a good, civilized way. It won’t work out ....? Sorry. We have an Arctic group.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 27 January 2017 10: 24 New
      +7
      Somehow, an increase in the exchange rate of oil does not affect the value of the ruble. And the increment of marine waters, for some reason, only increases the price of fish in Russia. Miracles, and only.recourse
      1. kenig1
        kenig1 27 January 2017 10: 41 New
        +8
        “And the increment of marine waters, for some reason, only increases the price of fish in Russia,” probably because you have to go further for fish. Here in Novosibirsk, this is what happens: "In Novosibirsk, officials explained the increase in water tariffs in the range of 16–20% by the fact that residents began to save water and reduced their consumption."
        1. Blondy
          Blondy 27 January 2017 11: 46 New
          0
          I wonder where this aquatorium grew?
        2. region58
          region58 27 January 2017 12: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: kenig1
          In Novosibirsk, officials explained the increase in water tariffs in the range of 16-20% by the fact that residents began to save water and reduced its consumption

          It is they who seem to have improved the Take-or-Pay principle. wink Now it’s "you don’t take it - you pay more." Following this logic, the one who is most not connected to the water supply should pay the most. wink Look what ... you decided to save ...
        3. avt
          avt 27 January 2017 13: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: kenig1
          Here in Novosibirsk, this is what happens: "In Novosibirsk, officials explained the increase in water tariffs in the range of 16–20% by the fact that residents began to save water and reduced their consumption."

          And in Novosibirsk, for an hour, is it not a comrade communist, my friend Elbow from a zyuganate rules the mayor? Well, the Duma exposes the ulcers of capitalism.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 27 January 2017 11: 26 New
      +1
      But the necessary conditions for joint work are the resignation of B. Assad and the reduction of Iranian influence in the region.
      Even after receiving these territories under international law (in xx years) they can be lost as a result of "humanitarian" assistance. Ask and sign. if there is no “Boreev” and “bad” “KUZI”
      1. Every
        Every 27 January 2017 12: 21 New
        +3
        "Kuznetsov" has nothing to do in the north, he bends there. He was dragged there from hopelessness.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 27 January 2017 12: 24 New
          0
          at a possible latitude, longitude and restrain partners so as not to freeze. And then, how the children climb on the cap of the Earth and answer for them. icebreakers only go with us.
          1. Every
            Every 27 January 2017 12: 31 New
            +7
            Yes, this is not the case; the conditions of the north are not suitable for him.
            Here are the words of Admiral Selivanov, Valentin Yegorovich, commander of the 5th operational (Mediterranean) squadron, and after its disbandment, he commanded Kuznetsov:
            You cannot imagine the aircraft carrier parking in the north. An aircraft carrier is tens of thousands of tons of steel, hundreds of thousands of square meters of decks, cabins, hangars, compartments. It is simply unrealistic to warm it all on your own in the conditions of the northern winter! There, on the fourth or fifth deck of the step, knee-deep water due to fogging. He’s all frozen. Once in a lifetime, "Kuznetsov" more or less warmed up - in the Mediterranean Sea. Then he was a real handsome man. And so, he is constantly with frozen portholes. Should not aircraft carrier winter in the north. He dies there.

            "Kuznetsov" should winter in the Mediterranean, which was done in the same Soviet times, when all aircraft carriers were relegated to the warm seas for the winter.
            http://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic1497414.html
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 27 January 2017 06: 58 New
    +7
    A strong Arctic fleet, a strong Russia is the most powerful argument in the dispute and the only thing that can convince Western "experts"
    1. andj61
      andj61 27 January 2017 08: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Olgovich
      A strong Arctic fleet, a strong Russia is the most powerful argument in the dispute and the only thing that can convince Western "experts"

      It certainly will not convince them! A much more significant argument can be good relations between countries in various organizations, which made it possible to recognize ALL the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as the exclusive economic zone of Russia.
      And the debate over the Arctic will continue for many more years, if not many decades. So far, this dispute has a scholastic character - for an economically successful hydrocarbon production in this region, the oil price at current prices should be close to 200 dollars per barrel, and certainly not less than 120-140 dollars (bed depth plus harsh natural conditions). And under these conditions, the production of shale oil is very beneficial. So this is an application for the distant future, such as "it’s not necessary to me, but I want it, it’s blown away in me!" bully hi
      1. sailor52
        sailor52 29 January 2017 00: 50 New
        +2
        The powerful Northern Fleet must both convince and not allow Russia to move its positions even a mm ago. It is difficult to press even in international organizations on the country, whose submarines and ships patrol the disputed space all the time, which the seals do not push their way between.
        Diplomats and scientists should do their work, the military - their own.
        Remember how easy and simple, like a child’s toy, Romania squeezed Snake Island from Ukraine, realizing that there are hydrocarbons on its shelf. Ukraine didn’t even utter a word, especially after Europe decided in The Hague for them that Romania needed this shelf.
        Well, they know better from The Hague, like.
        Although ... even with the existing missile boats of Soviet construction + aviation, if Ukraine had not even a toothless leadership, it would have been good to spoil Romania’s mood. It would be necessary, like Lukashenko, to quarrel with the West, and to become in the eyes of Europe an evil empire, but ... the one who chooses shame between shame and war, eventually gets both shame and war on his head. The history of Ukraine for the 25 years of "independence" is a vivid illustration.
        What am I ... better able to show my strength around the perimeter, on all 360. Diplomats work then easier.
  3. Delink
    Delink 27 January 2017 07: 14 New
    +3
    First they come up with laws at the UN, then under these laws they want to grab a piece for themselves fatter.
    There were borders, they will remain! There is an army and a navy!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 27 January 2017 09: 09 New
      +2
      And our borders were like this:
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 27 January 2017 09: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        And our borders were like this:

        And what happened to begin a review of our borders?
        Is it possible that gifts to the Norwegians are in the form of pieces of the Barents Sea?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 27 January 2017 10: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Stroporez
          And what happened to begin a review of our borders?

          Kisinger, Trump's adviser, this is exactly what he is proposing - to divide the world between three civilizations.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 27 January 2017 10: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Boris55
            Kisener, Advisor to Trump,

            This hell, the old "friend" of Russia sad
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 27 January 2017 10: 35 New
              0
              Quote: Stroporez
              This hell, the old "friend" of Russia sad

              Of course not. Kisener simply understands that it will be easier to live for everyone. It’s easier to negotiate with two than with over a hundred countries.
          2. Anton Valerevich
            Anton Valerevich 27 January 2017 18: 31 New
            +1
            Well, you know, I still think that the Chinese, Hindus, Persians and Arabs are all different civilizations, if not cool, but still blacks!
            1. water
              water 28 January 2017 23: 45 New
              +3
              So after all, what happened to our northern maritime border?
              Quote: Boris55
              And our borders were like this: It seems like it was like this:

              And it became, as shown in the figure in the article !?
  4. MPK105
    MPK105 27 January 2017 07: 17 New
    +5
    Such a booze will soon go to the Arctic-Mama Do not Cry. Our preparations are being made slowly, and Trump is already rushing into America, catching up, they say, Putin laughing
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 January 2017 07: 42 New
    +5
    major debate over the shelf will unfold now

    But it is necessary to argue strictly without giving in to anyone and nothing. Moreover, Russia has begun to actively strengthen its Arctic borders militarily, and someone is only planning it.
    1. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 27 January 2017 14: 30 New
      +3
      Who is Denmark? You won’t find it on the map, but all the same.
      While the solvers decide, it is necessary to consider the shelf to be your own and act in accordance with this dogma. Start a household. activity as we see fit. Do not agree - let them justify and prove the opposite. To ask any snotty geeks if we can use our own! Some kind of absurdity!
      They got these nasty clowns in power, squandering our territories to the Norwegians and other dwarf states.
      DAMA, the whole country hates with fierce hatred, and this near-minded flawed creature is trying to rule this country! Surrealism in its purest form!
    2. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 28 January 2017 04: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But it is necessary to argue strictly without giving in to anyone and nothing. Moreover, Russia has begun to actively strengthen its Arctic borders militarily, and someone is only planning it

      I absolutely agree with you! And here is what is called "information for consideration":
      In 2017, the Russian Ministry of Defense will erect more than 100 military infrastructure facilities in the Arctic. On Wednesday, 25 January reports TASS with reference to the press service of the department According to the Ministry of Defense, the objects being handed over are located on the territory of the Arctic military bases on the archipelagos of Franz Josef Land and Novaya Zemlya, Sredniy Island, Cape Schmidt, Wrangel Islands and Kotelny. In particular, on the island of Alexandra Land (Franz Josef Land archipelago) the construction of more than 30 objects of a technical position and administrative, residential, storage, utility and park areas, as well as the Nagurskoye airfield, is being completed. Here is the construction of the administrative-residential complex "Arctic Shamrock" - the only capital construction project in the world, being erected at the 80-degree north latitude. In the village of Rogachevo (Novaya Zemlya archipelago) construction of technical positions and social infrastructure, as well as an airfield are ongoing. At Cape Schmidt (Chukotka Autonomous Region), more than 30 objects are planned to be commissioned before the end of the year. About the same number of capital construction projects will be completed by the end of the year on Wrangel Island. It is noted that all materials and equipment that are delivered from the mainland are able to withstand severe frosts. Now more than 200 units of equipment and about 1 of thousands of builders work at all objects.
      Источник:http://военное.рф/2017/%D0%90%D1%80%D0%B
      A%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B02/
      The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that by the end of this year on the polar island Alexandra Land (Franz Josef Land archipelago) the world's northernmost military airfield Nagurskoye will be commissioned. The construction of temporary roads has already been completed, an equalizing layer of the insulating embankment is laid on the airfield, and a service and technical area is being developed. “After the completion of modernization, the airfield will be able to receive most types of military transport aircraft year-round,” the Department of Information and Communications of the Russian Defense Ministry reports. Numerous facts indicate that it is under combat airplanes, and not military transport aircraft, that the Nagurskoye airfield is mainly being hastily built today. At the airfield, group parking lots for two huge Il-78 tanker aircraft and four Su-34 front-line bombers on duty will be erected. Moreover, taking into account the severity of the local climate, indoor heated hangars will be built for the “dryers”, as well as an AviTECh building “with the ability to perform maintenance of aviation equipment, with facilities for storing consumables and removable equipment.” In addition, the aircraft storage facility immediately planned defeats (to put it simply - missiles and bombs) will be a capacity of ten railway cars. That is, the ammunition is clearly not just one hit on the enemy. The Su-34 fighter-bomber is capable of being in the air for up to 10 hours. Speed ​​- 2200 kilometers per hour, combat load - from 9 to 12 tons, depending on the radius of the flight. It has four fuel tanks with a total capacity of up to 12 thousand liters. Air refueling system is provided. It has good habitability - there is even a kitchen with a microwave and a normal bathroom.
      But the main thing - we have much more Su-34 aircraft than Tu-95MS and Tu-160. It is assumed that in the coming years the RF Armed Forces will have at least 150 − 200 of these formidable combat vehicles. If even a small part of this armada comes to the aid of “strategists”, even if front-line bombers, accompanied by aerial “tankers” Il-78, begin to regularly launch from the ZPI and regularly visit the Americans through the North Pole, this will definitely become a new serious factor in the confrontation that has begun in our countries .
      Source: http: //svpressa.ru/war21/article/165010/
      Well and besides:
      This year, the Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg will lay the first domestic ice class patrol ship. Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, Commander of the Northern Fleet in 1999 – 2001, explained why its construction is so important for Russia. “Such a patrol icebreaker will perform two tasks: carry out separate service and navigate the way to other ships serving on the islands. His main activity is patrolling those areas of the Arctic that he can walk through the thickness of the ice. The patrol icebreaker, I think, will not be armed. I suppose that he will have only self-defense weapons, ”the admiral believes. The ice class ship is a fundamentally new ship that combines the properties of a tugboat, patrol ship and an icebreaker. Ships will be able to sail in tropical and arctic waters. They are capable of breaking ice up to a meter and a half thick. “Russia now has an advantage in the Arctic, primarily due to the presence of a powerful icebreaker nuclear fleet, experience, and the planned construction of patrol icebreakers. There will be several of them. Such an icebreaker is necessary for functioning in the Arctic, ”Popov said.

      Source: http: //tehnowar.ru/56230-boevoy-ledokol-
      sozdast-nashemu-vmf-ogromnoe-prevoshodstvo.html
  6. candidate
    candidate 27 January 2017 08: 10 New
    +4
    Thermonuclear will be developed
    And then a different look
    Hydrogen will fall away at once
    Water will replace them
    It depends on science
    And she only barely breathes
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 27 January 2017 08: 30 New
      +2
      We print out the human brain, we leave for another dimension.
  7. Analyst
    Analyst 27 January 2017 09: 25 New
    +3
    “With a good word and a revolver, you can achieve more than one good word,” they say in America itself.
    Because yes, we need diplomacy, but with the presence in the zone of interest icebreakers. For the Anglo-Saxons speak only to those who are stronger, they forcefully democratize the rest with carpet bombing.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 January 2017 09: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Analyst
      With a kind word and a revolver, you can achieve more than one good word, "they say in America itself.

      Immediately the film "Head of Chukotka" was remembered. good
  8. Kenneth
    Kenneth 27 January 2017 10: 02 New
    0
    It's time to put armor and guns on oil platforms.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 27 January 2017 12: 27 New
      0
      finalization there under Ros standards, upon purchase,
      pass?
  9. Proton
    Proton 27 January 2017 10: 31 New
    0
    It’s necessary, like the Chinese, to pour a sand and say we don’t know anything, it’s ours, you see the sand laughing goes to the island, the continent.
  10. iouris
    iouris 27 January 2017 11: 36 New
    +3
    Everyone understands everything. Geographical justifications and discoveries are only useful when they are consolidated by force. Force no mind is not necessary.
  11. Igor V
    Igor V 27 January 2017 12: 03 New
    +1
    Our Soviet polar explorers regularly lubricated the axis of the Earth. And she did not creak! This is the best evidence. He who lubricates is the master. sad
  12. Blondy
    Blondy 27 January 2017 12: 12 New
    0
    Though the cake is arctic, but still do not open your mouth to another loaf
  13. nnz226
    nnz226 27 January 2017 12: 32 New
    +8
    Comrade Stalin, back in the 40 years, drew the borders of the USSR's Arctic possessions (the borders in the north coincide with the borders of the Russian Federation) from the border on land in a straight line to the North Pole. And all around wiped themselves and accepted them. And the liberals again stir up something to the detriment of Russia by signing some kind of shelf conventions. now here we prove our point. And where does Sweden and Finland belong to the Arctic states ?! They do not have access to the Arctic! Finland since 1944, Sweden with 1901 (or 1904), when Norway became independent
    1. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 27 January 2017 14: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: nnz226
      And the liberals again stir up something to the detriment of Russia by signing some kind of shelf conventions. now here we prove our point.

      That's the point! Already a country is being traded for its own purposes. Well, already at the end of the geeks spawned!
      For five years, these scum of society dominated by a lot of trouble can do our Stainless.
  14. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 27 January 2017 15: 17 New
    0
    And where are the Arctic possessions of Austria? smile
    And you look at the map, ”the volunteer interrupted. - In fact, there is the Land of our all-merciful monarch, Emperor Franz Joseph. According to statistics, there are only ice that is transported on icebreakers belonging to Prague refrigerators. Our ice industry has also earned high appreciation and respect abroad, as the enterprise is very profitable, although dangerous. The greatest danger when exporting ice from Franz Josef Land is the passage of ice through the Arctic Circle. Can you imagine that?
    The convoy muttered something slurred, and the chief of the convoy, corporal, came closer and began to listen to the explanations of the volunteer. The one with a thoughtful look continued:
    - This only Austrian colony can supply ice to all of Europe and is a major economic factor. Of course, colonization is moving slowly, as part of the colonists do not want to go there at all, and partly freeze there. Nevertheless, with the improvement of climatic conditions, in which the ministries of trade and foreign affairs are very interested, it is hoped that the vast glacial areas will be properly used. After the construction of several hotels there will be attracted a mass of tourists. Of course, it is necessary, for convenience, to lay hiking trails and paths between the ice floes and to paint tourist signs on the glaciers. The only difficulty is the Eskimos, which hamper the work of our local authorities ...
  15. EternalStranger
    EternalStranger 27 January 2017 21: 24 New
    +4
    Instead of throwing hats, for a start we would ask who and why gave Norway the Russian shelf in the Barents Sea. Was this also the result of "constructive discussions with Russia" or again a multi-step?
  16. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 29 January 2017 19: 17 New
    0
    So I did not understand what exactly they were going to share. Only the Lomonosov Ridge is voiced. But, I’m almost sure that most commentators were not even interested in this issue. At best, Russia can claim only part of the Lomonosov Ridge. The "watershed" will be around the pole. This is at best, no more. Behind the pole, Denmark and Canada will argue over part of the Lomonosov ridge (the presented scheme is incorrect).
    And they didn’t mention anything else. Here the specifics are needed. But she is not. And there are commentators.