The black myth of the "Russian threat" and "Russian occupation"

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The black myth of the "Russian threat" and "Russian occupation"

Why does the West need the myth of the “Russian threat” and “Russian occupation”? The answer seems to be that the West needs the “image of the enemy.” Moreover, the enemy is vicious and stubborn, who from century to century offends the neighboring small nations, and many still keep in captivity. In the mass of various American films, we recognize this image of the enemy - mainly Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, Arabs, Serbs, Chinese, etc. But the most popular image is the Russian “mafia”, “terrorists”, “agents” , Russian kooky "military dictator" or a general selling "nuclear secrets" and other Russian "orcs".

Quite often, negative images of Russians are woven into the thread of the picture unnoticed. Take, for example, Gavin O'Connor's sporting drama "Warrior" 2011 of the Year. The film as a whole is not bad - it appeals to family values ​​(brotherly and fatherly love, love to family), to the development of the qualities of a winner, strength of spirit, perseverance, courage. But in passing they show the powerful Russian fighter "Kobu" (in terms of images, it is very symbolic that this is one of Stalin's pseudonyms). Moreover, the appearance of a fighter is clearly traced features of the Negroid type, which perfectly characterizes the "Russian barbarians" from the East. Naturally, one of the main characters wins the "Russian" fighter.

It should be noted, and the semantic attack of American filmmakers on the line: KGB - the agents introduced into the territory of the United States. So, in 2010, the film “Salt” was released on this topic, where the plot is twisted around the operation of the Soviet-Russian agents introduced into the US special services. In 2011, this topic was raised in the film “Double Agent”.

This is a real information war that year after year is waged against Russia and the Russian people, turning the Russians into “agents”, “terrorists”, “bandits”, “prostitutes”, “crazy military”, “bloody dictators” and other orcs.

The freedom-loving intelligentsia in the former post-Soviet republics also participates in this war. For more than 20 years (started back in the years of “perestroika”) they have been hysterical about the “Soviet (Russian) occupation”. In a number of countries, they opened “museums of occupation”, where every visitor can see exhibits with their own eyes, various “artifacts” devoted to the theme of “the horrors of Russian occupation”. A person who has a weak background of knowledge, and given the widespread decline in the level of education in the former Soviet republics, these are becoming more and more, these materials can make a depressing impression. Especially like in such museums to bring excursions of schoolchildren, students, exerting informational influence on the immature minds of young people. It is not necessary, therefore, to be surprised that in a number of republics young people are set up openly Russophobic.

But if you look at the facts stories it becomes clear that we see another "black myth". "Occupations" (from the Latin. Occupatio - capture, occupation), as such, was not. Thus, part of Georgia became part of Russia voluntarily; in 1801, in the capital of the Russian Empire, the appeal of the king of Kakheti and Kartli George XII was considered with a request to accept his lands into the Russian state. In addition, the first such requests were made as early as the 16 century - in 1586, the Georgian ambassadors beat the Russian Tsar Fyodor Ivanovich with his brow, so that he "took their people into his citizenship and saved their life and soul." According to the estimates of Russian historians, the Russian Empire, beating off the Georgian lands from the Persians, the Turks, and protecting the Caucasian highlanders from attacks, lost a total of about 130 thousand people. More on this topic can be found in the article of the Military Review: "What is forgotten in Georgia".

In Georgia, the situation with the issue of “occupation” has gone so far that not only the museums of occupation are opened there, but also the destruction of monuments to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War, as was the case with the Memorial of Glory in the city of Kutaisi. In fact, the Georgian authorities are striking at the historical memory of the Georgian people, who, like other Soviet peoples, contributed to the defeat of the Third Reich and the Nazi world order. Georgian rulers set a course for total Russophobia, and the Soviet period of history is presented to young people as one of the worst in all of Georgian history.

It is completely incomprehensible who Russia occupied in Ukraine. There was a process of reunification of the Russian lands, which were detached from it. One of the stages of this natural process was the famous Pereyaslav Rada of 1654, when a significant part of Ukraine reunited with Russia. But even then vast territories remained under the rule of Poland and Austria. There was no “Ukrainian people” at that time, there were Russians in the Russian state and Russians living in the territories seized by the Poles and Hungarians. “Ukrainians” and “Ukraine” were invented in the Vatican, Vienna, Krakow, at the end of 19 and in the 20 century this idea was supported in Berlin, in the West in general, realizing the significance of this operation to split the Russian people.

The same vagueness is in the question of the "occupied" Russian Baltic. This territory, under the terms of the Nishtad Peace Treaty, from 1721, passed to the Russian state from Sweden. The Baltic was Russian not only by right of force, but also on the basis of the agreements of that time, moreover, it was also bought.

And the actions of the "Russian and Soviet invaders" are strange. The “occupiers” did not conduct mass robbery of the occupied territories, genocide, total destruction of the bulk of the natives and the pen of the remnants of the natives on the reservation. Instead, they retained local self-government, built cities, ports, developed education, science, helped to create a national intelligentsia, and in every possible way improved the “captured” territories. “Russian invaders” did not destroy the Georgian, Estonian, etc. culture and originality, but also supported them in every way, even cultivated them. And how real invaders behave is well known from historical examples: we know how the colonizers of North, Central and South America and the islands of the Caribbean behaved. We remember that the Hitlerites and their henchmen in the Soviet territories did it.

So why do we need the black myth of the "Russian occupation" and the "Russian threat"?

First, in the West, they created and maintain the image of the enemy of all “enlightened humanity”. It will be much easier for the “orcs” and “nonhumans” to take the Russian Arctic, Russian Siberia, the Russian Far East, when the time comes for that. Russian civilization is the main enemy of the New Western World Order, which has been built for more than one century. And the stronger Russia is, the more kerosene is poured into the fire of the information war, the more severe the Russophobic hysteria.

Secondly, in this way, they influence the minds and hearts of Russian citizens, educate them with cosmopolitan haters of their homeland.

Thirdly, its integral parts are being chipped off from the Russian civilization - Little and White Russia, small peoples whose destinies are connected with the fate of Russian super-ethnos. They are educated by political elites, young people in hatred of Russia, it is quite possible that they are used for war with Russia (like Ukrainian Nazis in Chechnya or the August 2008 war of the year).

Fourth, they divert attention from their actions and crimes against humanity. For example, the British Empire destroyed so many people that Adolf Hitler is just a student of the lower grades, compared to British butchers.
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  1. +35
    3 February 2012 08: 31
    And the map looks cool!
    1. Chukotka resident
      -42
      3 February 2012 14: 10
      Quote: Bridge
      And the map looks cool!

      For the eyes of the occupant.
      1. +16
        3 February 2012 14: 32
        And you poke yourself in the eye with a needle, and you don’t have to look ...
        1. Chukotka resident
          -27
          3 February 2012 19: 30
          Quote: Banshee
          And you poke yourself in the eye with a needle, and you don’t have to look ...

          I'd rather stick a bayonet-knife ...
          1. Makhalych
            +17
            3 February 2012 19: 34
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            I'd rather stick a bayonet-knife ...


            You can stick your own, your woman. If such a moron has it.
            He sticks ... a network hamster.
            1. Chukotka resident
              -21
              3 February 2012 21: 01
              Makhalych,
              I liked it, know.
              1. Aibolit
                +6
                3 February 2012 22: 34
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                I liked it, know.

                Your own experience, share wink
          2. Odesit
            +9
            3 February 2012 20: 18
            Stick a bayonet-knife into your stomach and commit hara-kiri - the failed Chukchi follower of Borovoy and Novodvorskaya! How are you traitors, mongrels divorced! And your owners are not too lazy to give out banknotes to each of them that they whistled every day ?!
            All the same, there’s no good with you, like a goat’s milk!
            1. Chukotka resident
              -12
              3 February 2012 21: 07
              Quote: Odess
              I don’t care with you anyway

              With us is our national prophet - the soul ...


              And the truth is, we don’t need Krilat.
              Earth nemє, then heaven.

              Dumb fields, then will.
              It’s a bit of a bet, then it’s a mess.

              In tsoyu, it’s melodious, really a bird ...
              But what about ludin? But what about lyudin?

              Live on earth. Itself is not lit.
              And krila maє. And krila maє!

              Stink, ti ​​krila, not a fluff-feast "I,
              And from the truth, honesty and dovir "I.

              At whom - from vіrnostі at kohannі.
              Who - from vіchnogo trick.

              Who - from schirostі to robots.
              Who - s generous on turbot.

              At whom - from pisni, but from nadії,
              Abo z poezii, abo z mrii.

              Lyudina nіbito is not lit ...
              And krila maє. And krila maє!




              Video

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHMxXsnE5k
              1. Odesit
                +9
                3 February 2012 22: 55
                ABOUT! Again, the bander anxious client appeared on the air!
                I just love it!
                Let’s laugh at the end of the working week!
                LET GUY CUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER!
                Wasn't that you called "Banderlos" and "Shchukin" not so long ago ?!
                Now I am, "Patriot of Chukotka" ?!
                Why not "PATRIOT LEMKOVSHCHINA" - which is now part of Poland ?!
                Is she closer to you?
                1. Aibolit
                  +4
                  3 February 2012 23: 16
                  Quote: Odess
                  ABOUT! Again, bander preoccupied the client appeared on the air!
                  I just love it!
                  Let’s laugh at the end of the working week!
                  LET GUY CUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER!
                  Wasn't that you called "Banderlos" and "Shchukin" not so long ago ?!
                  Now I am, "Patriot of Chukotka" ?!
                  Why not "PATRIOT LEMKOVSHCHINA" - which is now part of Poland ?!
                  Is she closer to you?

                  Ah he is not only dumb but also
                  Quote: Odess
                  preoccupied
                  1. Odesit
                    +8
                    3 February 2012 23: 29
                    Dear Dr. Aibolit!
                    We all know from childhood that you helped all the sick - even Barmaley!
                    Please provide qualified psychiatric assistance to the concerned "Bandera-Chukchi patriot"!
                    To the same weight the Oath of the DOCTOR obliges, to render assistance even to the finished persons!
                    From my point of view, help in a free place of residence, free food, as well as clothing for the next 7-8 years can also be useful.
                2. oleg-sochi68
                  +1
                  7 February 2012 00: 00
                  LEMKOVSHCHINA is closer, but he will serve in Chukotka, it’s colder there
              2. +3
                4 February 2012 13: 09
                Such inglorious coves cannot have a soul. At trolls it is absent. Fulfill the order of your masters.
              3. andrklimanov
                +3
                5 February 2012 20: 34
                listen to the Chukchi crest! No one needs you in the West. We need you, but you. Because we lived for a long time and peacefully, and we will live as one people which you don’t live in the world? pro-Westerners use you as a tool against us and yourself. what are you hoping for? you are with "puppeteers" of different blood. look what father Litvinenko sings.
            2. +3
              4 February 2012 16: 25
              the worst thing is that he does it for free, purely by his schizophrenic beliefs. he would be happy for the little thing, but there are too many willing. until she deserved a show.
          3. +6
            3 February 2012 21: 01
            all the better. It turns out suicide banderlogs. This makes me happy.
            1. Chukotka resident
              -15
              3 February 2012 21: 16
              Alexander Petrovich,
              Bulba sit down! I said sit down ...
              Hold the order
              1. +10
                3 February 2012 21: 18
                Oooh, monkey, but you are also a slave of your own convictions.
                1. Odesit
                  +8
                  3 February 2012 23: 04
                  Alexey Petrovich!
                  Respect, shake my hand!
                  Do not pay your attention to creatures not worthy of this!
                  With respect.
                  1. +3
                    3 February 2012 23: 49
                    Thank you friend! Glad to hear it. I agree with you, but nonetheless, it’s nice to joke on such people sometimes. Yours faithfully!
                2. Aibolit
                  +7
                  3 February 2012 23: 19
                  Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                  Oooh, monkey, but you are also a slave of your own convictions.

                  He has no beliefs; he has Mrs. Clinton
                  1. +2
                    4 February 2012 13: 14
                    Well, aibolit, as with fantasy showed the essence of some people. Super.
              2. Aibolit
                +6
                3 February 2012 21: 30
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                Alexander Petrovich,
                Bulba sit down! I said sit down.

                Well, not too little hatred spread to the fraternal Ukrainian people
                "Taras Bulba is a patriot of the Russian land"


                "Bulba entered the room with three Jews. The Jews began to talk to each other again ..."
                These bots were already talking laughing
                1. Chukotka resident
                  -12
                  3 February 2012 22: 11
                  Quote: Aibolit
                  "Taras Bulba is a patriot of the Russian land"

                  Some even now write everything - if only sold by diots.
                  1. Aibolit
                    +4
                    3 February 2012 22: 16
                    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                    Some even now write everything - if only sold by diots.

                    Oh, what a prophecy like that is true I send a compliment
                    After all, I agree write and buy
                    In Lviv, presented the book “Passion for Bandera”

                    1. Auschwitz
                      +1
                      3 February 2012 22: 54
                      Not he
                      Chukotka resident
                      pulls on
                      1. Aibolit
                        +4
                        3 February 2012 22: 59
                        Not only is Hillary Clinton's second peyssaty Bible "Living History"

                        Soon ahead of the first lol
                      2. Odesit
                        +9
                        3 February 2012 23: 48
                        The cheated wife of the former president. After the scandal with Monica Lewinsky, this family had to retire, but no, the audacity is enough to show off!
                        That's for sure, whom to whom, and they do not care about morality. the husband screwed up, the wife climbed. Let's see, see how it ends!
                      3. +6
                        4 February 2012 08: 01
                        ODES! Greetings, Alexander! In my opinion, this is not a desire to show off, but not a satisfied sense of revenge and embitterment throughout the world, as it happens with deceived women with high self-esteem! How, a woman insulted in her feelings, she can still be understood, but as a mother, whose children live in the World, which she brings her own hands to disaster - it is already difficult to understand! If you look closely at it on the screens, you will see not a noble little sweetheart, which is pictured by Aibolit, but an evil fury spraying poisonous saliva! Take a look, guys! Regards, Esaul! drinks
                      4. Odesit
                        +3
                        4 February 2012 18: 13
                        ESAULU.
                        Greetings Valery!
                        Correctly written.
                        It is hard to imagine how they are raised there so evil. those who hate everything is not American - A BIT !?
                        That Hilary, that Kondaliza Rice (generally called her - the only woman in the world - HONDON) and her sister who seems to represent the United States at the UN, simply embittered unconscious creatures of an unknown gender.
                      5. +6
                        4 February 2012 13: 23
                        Pindos guys do not have morality, they decide everything loot. I am ashamed of the wonderful past of the North American states.
                    2. +4
                      4 February 2012 13: 20
                      Here is an example of the betrayal of their own Slavs, their people.
                2. +7
                  4 February 2012 13: 18
                  Bulba was a patriot of Russia and the Slavs. Then, too, there was a struggle against the Slavs, as now. The level has changed, but the goal is the same - physical and historical destruction.
                  1. Chukotka resident
                    -12
                    4 February 2012 13: 23
                    Quote: Sandov
                    Bulba was a patriot of Russia and the Slavs.

                    Russia was only Kievan, Bulba - the author's literary hero for sales in the territory of the empire, Russians are not Slovenes.
                    1. +4
                      4 February 2012 15: 14
                      redirecting you the words of Venediktov from Echo (your friend) - a pharmacy around the corner. No matter how dirty, everything will be rewarded ..
                      According to your faith, let it be unto you!
                    2. +3
                      4 February 2012 16: 57
                      . Ukraine is not a nation
                      1. Chukotka resident
                        -3
                        4 February 2012 21: 54
                        karbofos,
                        Wretched ...

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql3wF9Xg1mI
                    3. Odesit
                      +2
                      4 February 2012 18: 16
                      Shut up - a resident of Chukotka. YOU'RE IMBICYLED!
                      Therefore, normal people do not perceive you.
                    4. +3
                      4 February 2012 20: 25
                      It is regrettable for the traitors of their people - the Russians are the same Slavs as malorosy, Belorussians and do not be surprised Poles.
                      1. Chukotka resident
                        -7
                        4 February 2012 22: 06
                        Quote: Sandov

                        It is regrettable for the traitors of their people - the Russians are the same Slavs as malorosy, Belorussians and do not be surprised Poles.

                        Russians are not Slavs, but Finno-Ugric and Tatars with the "horde" form of statehood and an agonizing state system.
                      2. pioneer
                        +2
                        6 February 2012 15: 11
                        Before you write "gray mare", there is simply no other term, open a textbook on demography. Learn what they write there, and then just start talking about this topic. And one more little question? Why do you all hate the Finno-Ugric and Tatars so much. The "Horde" is a military unit with strong discipline and a developed form of military democracy. I don’t want to write non-literary words, but your level of intolerance is very high - and this is evidence of weak will.
                    5. pioneer
                      0
                      6 February 2012 15: 00
                      Kievan Rus is a term coined by Norman historians. And if you read the Old Russian literary monuments, then we are talking about the Russian Land.
                    6. 0
                      8 February 2012 16: 49
                      Russians are the Slavs: http://www.evpatori.ru/russian-blood.html read at your leisure, maybe smarter.
              3. +3
                4 February 2012 13: 12
                Oh propindosniki how you rushing. God willing, someday you will understand that he is wrong. I'm afraid it will only be too late.
                1. Chukotka resident
                  -6
                  4 February 2012 13: 38
                  Quote: Sandov
                  Oh propindosniki how you rushing. God willing, someday you will understand that he is wrong. I'm afraid it will only be too late.

                  To vomit Ompertz in the spirit of their weakness and fast yet another crushing. We, as a truly spiritual nation without Gundyaev - we know that everything under God and for every Horde with his crime - awaits judgment.
                  1. +4
                    4 February 2012 15: 18
                    Hmm, I told you, for you freaks, there won’t even be a trial, you’ll go to the forks and to the furnace right away.
                  2. +1
                    4 February 2012 17: 00
                    which nation? Ukro-Tatars or Ukro-Pole? what is there about Kievan Rus?
          4. +5
            4 February 2012 13: 06
            You are not a Troll Slav, the State Department Troll.
            1. Chukotka resident
              -9
              4 February 2012 13: 22

              The name "Russia" from the Greek form "Rus". Self-designation - “Russians” at the end of the XNUMXth century spreads falsely on the northeastern lands along with the toponym “Rus”, displacing local autochthonous land names. Unlike the ethnonym “Rusyns” (cf. “Litvins”, “Mordvins”, “Voloshins”, etc.)., The name “Russians” was originally an attribute, which meant that these people belonged to the “Rus” prince or the Rus land, and subsequently turned into a substantive.

              In the XIV century. the patriarchate of Constantinople introduced the terms Greater and Lesser Russia, by analogy with the terms “Lesser Greece” (main lands, metropolis) and “Greater Greece” (colonies). For example, modern autochthonous Greece is Lesser Greece, and, say, the Crimean lands of the Greek colony of Chersonesos, at that time were called Great Greece. By “Little Russia” they understood the metropolis - namely Kievan Rus (modern Ukraine), and by “Great Russia” - the northern Russian lands. Much later, it was adopted in the state clerical work of Russia in the 18-19 centuries. the perverted form of “Great Russians”, “Great Russians”, in contrast to the “Little Russians”, “Little Russians” - Ukrainians. Under this name, Russians are known in Russian, Ukrainian, in some places in foreign scientific literature of the 19th - 20th centuries. In Ukrainian, Polish and other Slavic languages, the name "Muscovites" (or "Muscovites," Muscovites "from Muscovy, Moscow), also accepted for Russians, is also accepted for Russians. Over time, the name "Moskal" Russians began to consider offensive, the reason for which was the renaming of Muscovy to an inappropriate name - the Russian Empire and the subsequent renaming of the ethnic group that inhabited the empire. Catherine II, the Russian empress of German descent, worked especially hard in this field. Also in the Don and Ukraine, the common name of Russians is “, I am the Nazi face, s”.

              In Estonia, the nickname is common - the tibla, which is associated with the use of profanity by the Russian military.

              Ethnogenesis

              The Russian people in historical development was formed on the basis of Finno-Ugric tribes: Murom, Meria, the whole, Meshchera, Moksha, Perm, Narova and others (Valishevsky K. Ivan the Terrible. - M. IKPA, 1989. - Reproduction reproduction of the 1912 edition. - p.16; N. Karamzin, History of the Russian State, Vol. 1. - M .: Moscow Worker, Syll. 1993 -1994.- p. 45).

              This opinion is shared by Russian historians who worked during the time of the Russian Empire: K. Valishevsky, N. M. Karamzin (“History of the Russian State.” 1803-1826), V. O. Klyuchevsky (“The Course of Russian History.” 1904 - 1910 ), S. M. Soloviev (History of Russia since ancient times. 1851-1879; Soloviev S. M. Readings and stories on the history of Russia. - M .: Pravda, 1989). The fact that the Finno-Ugric tribes were an ethnic substrate of the Russian people is not even denied by Soviet science (Big Soviet Encyclopedia. - Ed. 3rd. - M, 1969-1978. T. 4. - S.582).

              According to the Russian scientist, a full member of the Russian Academy of Sciences V.O. Klyuchevsky, the entire vast territory from Tula and Ryazan to the north and east in the XI-XIII centuries belonged to the Finnish tribes: Muroma, Meria, all, Moksha, Meshchera and others. The Great Russian tribe or the Russian people, as it is today incorrectly called, appeared around the XV-XVII centuries. among Murom, Meri, Vesi, Moksha, Meshchera, from where, according to the author, it began to “flow”. (Klyuchevsky V.O. Historical portraits. - M.: Pravda. 1990. - p. 42).

              According to the Russian scientist K. Valishevsky, the principality of Moscow in the sixteenth in nine-tenths had a non-Russian population. The rest are colonizers from Russian lands. The basis of the population everywhere was the Finnish tribe (Valishevsky K. Ivan the Terrible. - M. IKPA, 1989. - Reproduction reproduction of the 1912 edition. - p.16).

              Professor Soloviev, the head of the Department of Russian History at Moscow University, substantiated the claim that the Rostov-Suzdal land was inhabited by a Finnish measure.

              In the “History of Ukraine-Rus” M. Grushevsky put forward the thesis that “the beginning of the formation of the young, but also numerous of the Slavic peoples - Great Russians” was the Novgorod-Krivichy and Krivyat-Vyatka colonization, which, “assimilating the Finnish population and modifying under its influence. .. hid in it a completely Slavic national type. " The historical process of the emergence of Russians as a people, outlined by M. Grushevsky, was eventually confirmed even earlier by Russian historians S. Solovyov and V. Klyuchevsky, and later, in particular, by the Soviet historian M. Pokrovsky (and his school) in the thesis of the large percentage -Finish element in the emergence of the Russian people.

              On the purely Slavic substrate, only the descendants of the Ilmen Slovenes were formed - the Rus of Novgorod and its lands and the descendants of immigrants from Kievan Rus - Suzdal. According to the theory of V. Lyapunov and F. Filin, the Rostov-Suzdal region was inhabited in the era of Kievan Rus by a separate Slavic tribe, whose name did not survive.

              N. Kostomarov in The Two Russian Nationalities (Osnova, 1861) argued that Russians differ from Ukrainians in their appearance, clothing, behavior, domestic life, customs and rituals, as well as household appliances.

              The borders of Russian settlement and Western ambassadors were quite clearly defined: the Pope’s Ambassador to the Genghisids Empire John de Plano Carpini, the King’s Ambassador Louis IX to the Khan of the Golden Horde Sartak Wilhelm de Rubruk. The first visited the courtyard of Khan Batu and the capital of the Empire, Karakoram in 1246 and returned to Europe in 1247 through Kiev. The second visited the country of Khan Sartak, the country of Khan Batu and the capital of the Empire Karakorum in 1253-1254. and returned to the "promised land" in 1255.

              Wilhelm de Rubruk noted that the lands of Rus lay north of Perekop. According to his observations, Russia everywhere had forests and stretched from Poland and Hungary to Tanaid (John de Plano Karpini. History of the Mongols: Wilhelm de Rubruk. Journey to the Eastern countries. - SPb .: Ed. A. S. Suvorina, 1911. - p. 85).

              Features

              The almost 250-year stay under the leadership of the Golden Horde khans and later under the autocratic rule of Moscow princes and tsars was associated with blind obedience to the permanent owner and his governors, unconditional fulfillment of all their orders and their tolerance, sometimes the most cruel acts and crimes, influenced the development of the Russian on the one hand, the trait of passivity against the permanent regime and the living conditions imposed by it, including personal slavery (servitude), and on the other, endowed them with endurance and recklessness in achieving personal interests and goals.

              The Russian had a strong influence on deepening these features of the national character of modern "Russians." The Church (Russian Orthodox Church), inspired by the spirit and ideology of Byzantine-Moscow imperialism. On the basis of this pseudo-church ideology, such manifestations of a national character developed and affirmed as the identification of the power of any possessor of the throne with the will of God, the veneration of princes and kings as God's anointed ones, exclusive masters over subjects ("slaves") and their property, deification of the established "higher power »The political and religious primacy of the national capitals - first Vladimir on Klyazma, and then Moscow, and exaltation above all other peoples of their people and empire.

              These manifestations came to an end in the constant desire of the Moscow tsars (and subsequently the Russian emperors) to lead not only secular, but also church authority. On the basis of such perverted slaveholding winds and chauvinistic ideological attitudes, Russian national, and in fact Nazi messianism, developed (the false belief that Moscow is the "third Rome", the only "true" Christian state in the whole world), borrowed from its traditional foundations and secularized tendencies by the Russian revolutionary movements of the 19th and 20th centuries, including Marxist-Leninist communism (the Nazi concept of the “elder brother”, the dominance of the Russian language). This influenced the strengthening and approval of Russian intolerance not only in relation to other religions, beliefs and ideologies, but also to all other peoples, not excluding those close to them - Ukrainian and Belarusian.

              In socio-economic life and in everyday life, these attitudes were manifested in the primacy of the idea and power of the “Russian world” over individual freedom and initiative, in the dominance of the “community” and communal ownership over private property, in the subordination of society to the interests and directives of the state and government administration.

              This was also facilitated by serfdom, which especially developed in Muscovy from the second half. The 16th century, was finally approved in 1649, and continued until 1861.

              The formation of Russians as a state people, in particular its leading part - the nobility, was also influenced by the constant influx of progressive statist elements from among the annexed and conquered peoples, such as, for example, the Tatar aristocracy, Lithuanian, Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian nobility, the Ukrainian Cossack foreman, Baltic Germans, and then immigrants from other nationalities of the Russian Empire. Arriving on the Russian state, military, cultural and church service and mostly denationalized, they became builders of the Russian empire and creators of the so-called Russian culture.
              1. +9
                4 February 2012 15: 22
                ... If you look at it that way, then all the peoples of the world are mixed. For example, pure Slavs live on the Volga. Anthropological studies show that both Ukrainians and Russians represent a genetic mosaic originating from the ancient peoples of Eurasia (a situation typical for other large peoples of Europe). The question of what kind of peoples (no longer races) Ukrainians and Russians are most connected with by their origin has always been part of the ideological circle of the Ukrainophiles. Their position in the thesis is as follows: Ukrainians are the purest Eastern Slavs (often Slavs in general), sometimes even the last unalloyed Aryans of Europe (O. Kovalenko. I seodni Ukrina was accidentally seized from the nationalism. Ukraine, 1994. N1 / 2); the other two East Slavic peoples represent the result of mixing with either the Finnish tribes (Russians) or the Balts (Belarusians). At the same time, Ukrainianophiles like to refer to the geographical position of the ancestral home of the Slavs. Most scholars place the Proto-Slavs, who emerged about 1000 years BC from the more ancient Balto-Slavic linguistic community, north of the Carpathians, either in the interfluve of the Vistula and Oder, or eastward, in the area between the Vistula, Pripyat and the middle course of the Dnieper. The second option is more popular with Ukrainophiles, but the first is also acceptable, because even in this case, Ukraine is within easy reach. After one and a half thousand years, the widely settled Proto-Slavs were divided into Western, Southern and Eastern Slavs, and by the XNUMXth century the latter already occupied a vast territory, including the Right Bank and part of the Left Bank Ukraine, Belarus and the west of European Russia up to the Gulf of Finland and Ladoga. Naturally, the Slavs did not come to an empty place, and the local tribes merged with them (there was no genocide). So, on the territory of Ukraine, the Sarmatian tribes of the forest-steppe zone and the Thracian tribes of the Carpathians entered the Slavs. The tribes of the Baltic language group, akin to the Lithuanians, mixed with the Slavs of Belarus. The Slavs, who moved to the territory of Russia, met there at first not the Finns, as the Ukrainianophiles claim, but the same Balts who then lived up to Mozhaisk (according to the chronicles, the Golyad tribe and then, spreading to the north and east, came into contact with It is curious that Western Slavs also took part in the migration of the Slavs to the north, to the region of the future Novgorod. Ancient linguistic and cultural parallels between the Novgorodians and the Slavs of the Baltic Pomor region are discovered. From this excursion into the history of the Slavs, we can conclude that the ancient Russian tribes, the ancestors of the East Slavic peoples were not carriers of any pure Slavic roots.

                Subsequent mixtures did not increase the purity of Slavic blood. Thus, in the territory of central Ukraine, the Turkic tribes of Berendey, black hoods and Torques, allies of the Kiev princes settled and glorified (the author does not even take into account the infusion of Khazar blood - approx. Webred). These princes, unlike modern nationalists, thought little about the purity of the Aryan , genes and willingly married Polovtsy; up to three quarters of Polovtsian blood flowed in the veins of many princes of southern Russia. The subsequent arrival of the Mongols, and then the centuries-old neighborhood with the Budzhak, Nogai, and Crimean Tatars and, finally, the Turks also did not pass without a trace for the Ukrainians. There was also an influx of blood of the ancient peoples of the eastern Mediterranean and Transcaucasia that lasted for centuries. In the XIV century, numerous colonies of Armenians appeared in the cities of Western Ukraine. Contact with the Greeks on a large scale began only in the XNUMXth century, but there were no obstacles for mixed marriages of Orthodox Greeks and Ukrainians. Finally, for many centuries a trickle flowed, sometimes forcibly expanded, carrying Jewish genes. I mean the so-called crosses, usually baptized voluntarily, but at times forced to do so, as was the case during the uprising of B. Khmelnitsky. Many Ukrainians received Jewish ancestors before the Bolsheviks abolished church marriages. Let me remind you of N. Kostomarov’s remark that when two Ukrainian landowners begin to settle scores, one will surely find a Greek in the other, and he will have a Jew.

                In conclusion, I want to say that all these confusions cannot be compared with the scale of the blood fusion that took place between the East Slavic peoples themselves, and primarily the Ukrainians of Eastern Ukraine and the Russians. Therefore, when among these first-born Ukrainians (it was Eastern Ukraine that began to be called Ukraine from the XNUMXth century) and natural Russians (especially the south of Russia, but also Siberia, the Far East, Moscow) there are those who like to throw mud at the neighboring people and country, it would not hurt them to remember, that with this mud they smear their own ancestors. The situation is different with Western Ukrainians. Inhabitants of Western Ukraine began to call themselves Ukrainians only from the end of the XNUMXth century, before that, the self-name "Rusyns" and "Galicians" prevailed. Rusyns of Transcarpathia and Lemkos of the Carpathians do not consider themselves Ukrainians to this day and raise the question of self-determination. Inhabitants of Western Ukraine - Galicians, Transcarpathian Rusyns and Carpathian highlanders - differ from Eastern Ukrainians no less, if not significantly more than the latter from southern Russians. Thus, the Uniates-Galicians, who lived for centuries as part of Poland and then Austria, had little in common with Orthodox Eastern Ukrainians, but they were open for ethnic contacts with the Slavic and non-Slavic peoples of Central Europe.

                All of the foregoing is obvious to any person familiar with literature on the origin of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia. Therefore, I do not understand the position of professionals - anthropologists and ethnographers who silently observe the fooling of our peoples by illiterate or intentionally distorting facts advocates of national and racial superiority.
                1. +4
                  4 February 2012 15: 33
                  Unshared Legacy
                  The last question on the early history of the Eastern Slavs in the anti-Russian agenda of Ukrainophiles is related to finding out which people are the direct heirs of Kievan Rus. Ukrainophiles argue that since Kiev was the capital of Kievan Rus, the center of settlement of the meadow, it was the meadow that made the leading contribution to the development of the ancient Russian state. Accordingly, Ukrainians, descendants of the glades, are direct heirs to Kievan Rus. This scheme clearly does not correspond to the historical information known to us. So, we know that by the time the Old Russian state was formed, the Eastern Slavs did not have one dominant center, but there were many cities.

                  The most significant cities on the most important trade route "from the Varangians to the Greeks" were Novgorod, Smolensk and Kiev. Moreover, Novgorod was the most politically active. If you rely on the chronicles, it was the Novgorodians who first expelled the Varangians, and then called for the rule of other Varangians led by Rurik. Subjugating the entire path "from the Varangians to the Greeks", the Varangian princes chose Kiev as their capital (882). Novgorod was clearly inferior to Kiev both in terms of the fertility of the surrounding land and the independence of the character of the population: Novgorodians were more freedom-loving and more inclined towards democracy. Made the capital of Rus by the Varangian hand, Kiev began to develop rapidly, attracting people not only from the surrounding villages, but also from all over the Russian land and even from other countries. The role of Kiev especially increased from the moment of the Baptism of Rus (988) and the creation of the Russian metropolis of the Orthodox Church (1037). I must say that Ukrainophiles often rank among the merits: Ukrainians Baptism of Rus by St. Vladimir, who, in their opinion, was Ukrainian by his mother. Not to mention the fact that Ukrainians did not exist in those days, the very origin of Malusha, the mother of Vladimir (Valdemar), is not clear. According to one version, she is from Lyubech (Chernigov region), according to the other, she is the daughter of the Drevlyane prince Mal, that is, from present-day Belarus. More importantly, in the struggle for power with his paternal brother Yaropolk, Vladimir relied on the Novgorodians. The Novgorodians, not the hired Varangians, were the decisive force in the battle that cleared the way for Vladimir to the Kiev throne (980).

                  The dominance of Kiev as the center of the Russian land did not last very long. In 1054, Russia broke up into principalities, and, with the exception of the 12-year reign of Vladimir Monomakh, Kiev was never again the capital of a single Russian state. With the disintegration of Russia, the importance of other cities increased, while Kiev remained the nominal place of the princely throne, which the rival princes obtained with battle. In 1169, Vladimir-Suzdal Prince Andrey Bogolyubsky, having won the throne in Kiev, transferred him to Vladimir. This was the end of the political significance of Kiev: the North-East became the center of gravity in Russia. Kiev, however, continued to be the residence of the Metropolitan and was, along with Novgorod, the largest cultural center of Russia. In 1240, the Mongols took Kiev and destroyed it almost to the ground, killing most of the inhabitants. Five years later, the Italian monks who went to the headquarters of the Great Khan, described the complete desolation on the site of the once large and beautiful city.

                  Next, the point of the dispute, in my opinion, of a far-fetched one, begins: where did the people of Kiev and the meadow in general go? In the last century, M. Pogodin put forward the idea that glades fled to the northeast, to the Vladimir-Suzdal principality, more distant from the Mongols. Ukrainophiles, starting with M. Grushevsky, argue that glades were saved in the west, in the Galicia-Volyn principality, and then again settled Kiev and its environs. To solve the question of the continuity of the heritage of Kievan Rus, this is not so important, since by this time the meadows were not particularly different from other Russians, and, moreover, Kievan Rus was created. More significantly, in 1299 the Metropolitan of the Russian Church moved to Vladimir, and the center of Russian Orthodoxy moved to northeastern Russia. It is also significant that by the middle of the XIV century, independent Russian principalities (although they paid tribute to the Tatars) remained only in the north and northeast of Russia and one of them, ruled by the princes of the Rurikov clan, became the founder of the state that we call Russia. Therefore, it is pointless to share the historical and cultural heritage of Kievan Rus: it belongs equally to the Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians. As for the direct political (Rurik dynasty) and religious (the center of Russian Orthodoxy) continuity, it is difficult to argue with the facts - Russia was destined to become the successor of Kievan Rus.
                  1. 0
                    14 February 2012 22: 37
                    A worthy answer to the Russophobia. Competently. wassat
              2. +2
                4 February 2012 15: 37
                So who are there pure "slovens"?
              3. +1
                4 February 2012 17: 04
                and ukry from whom were formed? write neighing !!!
              4. +1
                4 February 2012 20: 32
                Fomenko and Nosovsky well painted the origin of the Slavs and Rus. But Karamzin carried out the will of the monarch, as always history is written with such distortions - nowhere else to go. Ukrov just never was. Those whom the Russian people call it that. Betray the history of their people-Petenovtsy and Quislings only can.
          5. 0
            6 February 2012 12: 57
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            I'd rather stick a bayonet-knife ...

            THE EYE ONLY WILL BE MORE ... sad
      2. Roman0774
        0
        4 February 2012 19: 59
        Neither hu.you are not a resident of Chukotka. You are from Ukraine, smelly banderlog. Probably still owls. finished school


        , We will fasten Ukraine by 2015. Galicia is 50 years old in quarantine, and then we will take it away ... Wait for soba.ka and prepare the rope. We will bring soap with us. We are not animals ...

        PS - all Banderlog is given by the words "horde"
        1. 0
          5 February 2012 13: 03
          And he is not from Ukraine, this "resident of Chukotka". Such as he is given birth to podzabornye whores who conceived from a passing hired soldier who has forgotten his mother. From here, from the lack of education and the absence of ancestral roots, there is an outpouring of bile, bouts of unreasonable hatred and misanthropy. In principle, a person is sick, sick with a severe form of social illness called INHOLOGY.
    2. Aibolit
      +12
      3 February 2012 14: 47
      The black myth of the "Russian threat" and "Russian occupation"

      I would say another deceitful invention of the Washington-paired theorists of world domination!
      1. Aibolit
        +6
        3 February 2012 15: 07
        Support guys in LiveJournal with your comments smile
        February 4 anti-orange rally on Poklonnaya Hill
        http://solertovsky.livejournal.com/4206.html
    3. +3
      3 February 2012 18: 00
      And you can imagine (it is not difficult) a similar map only regarding the modern USA with the same arrows from the USA to the zones of their interests. The picture is amazing, because it turns out that, in fact, there is no country on the world map that would not be in the zone of their interests, including Russia itself - perhaps one of the main zones of their interests, and for a long time. Back at the beginning of the last century, Wall Street billionaires Schiff, Morgan, Jewish-Masonic comrades, together with the Rothschilds, who also had their eyes on Russia for a long time, staged for her not an "orange", but a "Blood-red" revolution, the bloodiest of which the history of the world has never known ... So the zones of interests of the United States and the West in general are not just arrows on the map, but concrete deeds, the trail of blood from which still lingers. And tsarist Russia viewed its zones of interest, first of all, as a front line for protecting the country from the many who wanted to get to its countless riches.
      1. +1
        3 February 2012 19: 51
        Totally .....
        Moreover, these bros managed to return all the money invested. About 20 million greens of the time, which is very significant.
        Trotsky took them, gave part - through the supply of steam locomotives to Sweden. As a result, the tax police arrived in the person of SudNalInspektor -R..R ... R .. and slashed through the skull ... dumb tomahawk ...
        In the early 90s, Soros was already cursing about the RF ... where is he now?
        Oh, I would have such opportunities - .... what's the point?
        I am Russian ... so, by definition, I’m all-forgiving .... (my mother ..... let them remember in heaven).
        1. patline
          +3
          3 February 2012 22: 12
          Empires go and come. Russia will remain, will be restored in every sense of the word. Both within and economically.
          Let the jackals show off in their ambitiousness (whatever the child would amuse). History will put everything in its place. Russia is a natural entity, as are China and India.
          1. Chukotka resident
            -6
            3 February 2012 22: 50
            Quote: patline
            Empires go and come. Russia will remain, will be restored in every sense of the word.

            No - there were two hordes that have already left. And this one will leave.
            1. Aibolit
              +2
              3 February 2012 23: 22
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              No - there were two hordes that have already left. And this one will leave.

              America will crash am
              and you orderlies a bed and a straitjacket laughing
              1. Chukotka resident
                -3
                3 February 2012 23: 47
                Russia ...........
                1. Aibolit
                  +2
                  3 February 2012 23: 50
                  Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                  Russia ...........

                  America
            2. +4
              4 February 2012 13: 30
              The Slavs are eternal. I believe that. I read Fomenko and made sure even more.
              1. Chukotka resident
                -6
                4 February 2012 13: 40
                Quote: Sandov
                The Slavs are eternal. I believe that.

                Slovenes yes! And the ugrofin-monolian empires have no future ...

                1. +2
                  4 February 2012 15: 15
                  Did you draw it yourself?
                2. +1
                  4 February 2012 15: 18
                  your thoughts cannot be determined which category of citizens you belong to ...
      2. +4
        4 February 2012 13: 28
        Pindos entangled the whole world like spiders and drink human blood, and the evil traitors of the Slavs play along with them.
        1. Chukotka resident
          -7
          4 February 2012 13: 42
          Quote: Sandov
          Pindos entangled the whole world like spiders and drink human blood

          All the Horde empires and utopias disintegrated - by the decay of the system.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0b7YHk0ias
  2. +2
    3 February 2012 08: 46
    Let them be afraid. While afraid means respect. If fear disappears then it is not known what they will go against Russia.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -8
      3 February 2012 14: 10
      Quote: Deniska
      Let them be afraid. While afraid means respect. If fear disappears then it is not known what they will go against Russia.

      There is nothing to be afraid of.
      1. +3
        3 February 2012 21: 26
        Fear. You ... clown ...
        I would be ashamed, well, seriously I would seriously believe my crap ..
        Why clown to demonstrate? For banter?
      2. +2
        4 February 2012 15: 22
        so it seems. Hid behind an avatar and hamstring. Immediately visible provocateur. All provocateurs are cowards and villains. Is it Nemtsov that I don’t understand. In your speeches one vile blasphemy and abuse. With this logic, you can’t gather supporters. But you will perish easily!
    2. alexander hjcnjd
      +4
      3 February 2012 14: 36
      They are afraid of strength, and strength is not the army, but economics and education (primarily physics, mathematics, chemistry)
      1. Aibolit
        +2
        3 February 2012 14: 51
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        There is nothing to be afraid of.

        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        They are afraid of strength, and strength is not the army, but economics and education (primarily physics, mathematics, chemistry)

        And without thinking it, she answered the questions of HAHAHA !!!! wassat laughing
      2. Chukotka resident
        -7
        3 February 2012 14: 52
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        economics and education (primarily physics, mathematics, chemistry)

        I agree, this is the creation and creation of goods.
        Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
        and power is not an army

        The army is a form for a wild horde that did not create anything and lived only on tribute and parasitism.
        1. Aibolit
          +3
          3 February 2012 15: 05
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          I agree, this is the creation and creation of goods.

          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          The army is a form for a wild horde that did not create anything and lived only on tribute and parasitism.

          So from the beginning I talked to my own bot and then I got it and went crazy!
          you are a resident of Chukotka finished product instance for a little crazy scrap fool
          1. recitatorus
            +7
            3 February 2012 15: 54
            Resident, you better remember 41! fool fool fool
            1. +10
              3 February 2012 16: 48
              recitatorus,
              Dear, who are you addressing? To the wretched? Aibolit diagnosed, but you did not heed ... It is a sin to appeal to the mind of the one who has this very mind - like a butterfly, which "Wings byak-byak-byak! And after her a sparrow - jump, jump, jump .. . " lol
              1. Chukotka resident
                -6
                3 February 2012 19: 33
                Quote: esaul
                Aybolit diagnosed

                Does he have the right to bet? And set yourself? lol
                1. +1
                  3 February 2012 21: 28
                  Fear. You ... clown ...
                  I would be ashamed, well, seriously I would seriously believe my crap ..
                  Why clown to demonstrate? For banter?
            2. Chukotka resident
              -5
              3 February 2012 19: 32
              Quote: recitatorus
              Resident, you better remember 41!

              He looked at the avatar and not only 41 remembered, but also 39, 32, 24, 19, 18, 17 ..., 1654 ... No.
              1. +1
                4 February 2012 17: 15
                this is memory !!!! and in 1654 did you also participate?
        2. Makhalych
          +5
          3 February 2012 19: 35
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          The army is a form for a wild horde that did not create anything and lived only on tribute and parasitism.


          Now, the Pindos now live like that. parasitizing and milking those who are weaker.
          1. Chukotka resident
            -4
            3 February 2012 21: 08
            Quote: MAhalych
            Now, the Pindos now live like that. parasitizing and milking those who are weaker.

            The Horde has something to argue besides a piggy screech in response - the world's No. 1 economy?
            1. 0
              3 February 2012 22: 48
              Economy No. 1 in the world - it can be - Iceland ... not a dime of external debts ... No. 2 South Africa is an absolutely self-sufficient country, few draw in front of anyone, but according to the opinions of my friends it is very actively involved in Russian projects (especially regarding mining plant), it can be Germany - as an absolute producer ..., it can be France - ksak the most investment-demanding country ...
              and what is a GIF - mired in debt for a total amount comparable to 1,5 - 2 of the cost of the whole planet Earth ...
              GYF = USA.
              You can’t live on credit - everyone knows. What happens - let's see. World bankers built everything very well - a bank - and here and there, brains - everywhere, muscles - here, threats - here. Everything is clear to everyone ...
              Only now, anyone who believes that this is Israel is mistaken ... This is again a setup ... with a million Russians - like cannon fodder ...
              1. ab
                ab
                +1
                3 February 2012 23: 04
                Quote: Igarr
                Economy No. 1 in the world - it can be - Iceland ... not a penny of external debt ...

                Shkolota on the ears ride, Iceland is a bankrupt country, and complete.
                Reykjavik, Iceland. The collapse came so fast that it seemed impossible. One of the Icelandic women says that it happened as if you were crushed by a train, the other compares what happened with the arrest when you are sent to prison, but you don’t know what you did wrong
                Today's trading session for the Icelandic exchange turned out to fall in the main stock index by 76%. The Icelandic economy was on the verge of bankruptcy. Thus, Iceland became the first country in the world in which the global financial crisis led to such disastrous consequences.
                Last week, the Icelandic authorities established control over the operations of the country's largest banks - Kaupthing, Landsbanki, Glitnir and others. The government decided not to resume trading in the shares of these banks, but this measure did not lead to anything, and the market collapsed.
                1. -1
                  3 February 2012 23: 10
                  Shkolota, figota ... kid you are cheap ... I haven’t learned to read ischo ...
                  read everything that I posted, slobbering, if I’m not able to do otherwise - then contact me - we'll see ...
                  where you got these, though ...
                2. +1
                  4 February 2012 13: 39
                  Ab is right here. Pindosnya also rules the ball in Iceland.
                3. 0
                  4 February 2012 15: 57
                  not everything is determined by the market. Living sinners who fell away from God have every chance with big money to go into another world unexpectedly, and there such a warm place is prepared for them that it is horrible. Repent before it's too late
              2. +2
                4 February 2012 15: 54
                In the US, debt is 15. And the paper is printed by a private company ... Just like Papondopulo: I’ll still print myself ...
            2. 0
              4 February 2012 13: 37
              Economy No. 1 was created on the blood and bones of the annihilated and robbed peoples.
              1. ab
                ab
                -1
                4 February 2012 13: 45
                Quote: Sandov
                Economy No. 1 was created on the blood and bones of the annihilated and robbed peoples

                What was the Russian economy based on? On popular privatization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                1. 0
                  4 February 2012 17: 23
                  What was the economy of Ukraine created for? On popular privatization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              2. Chukotka resident
                -2
                4 February 2012 13: 48
                Quote: Sandov
                Economy No. 1 was created on the blood and bones of the annihilated and robbed peoples.

                Look at the territory of the federation (since it’s not even a state) —what does it live and live on?
                1. +1
                  4 February 2012 16: 00
                  in short, the Americans do not be masters of Russia!
                  We’ll manage ourselves. And we’ll do without advisers
            3. +2
              4 February 2012 15: 50
              We hear about this economy of the world every time such conversations come. THIS IS PROPAGANDA! It is a pity for those people who are captive to lies and slander. Have you ever been to the states? He visited Boston University, talked with professors? In order to talk about something with conviction, it is necessary to love (and at least to figure it out), and not to play along ... It is very stupid BUT Russia, thank God not us, and trying to establish the same regime here as in usa is very naive. These are different worlds!
            4. +1
              4 February 2012 17: 19
              economy number 1 due to whom? economy number 1 with public debt number 1 in the world? you about this economy. Khokhlostan aspires to become No. 2 in the world with a public debt of almost 50% of GDP? Forward !!!!!
        3. 0
          4 February 2012 13: 34
          Slavs created many states in Europe. History is silent about this. Why the West does not want to recognize the role of the Slavs in the development of mankind is a question.
          1. ab
            ab
            -1
            4 February 2012 15: 08
            Quote: Sandov
            Why the West does not want to recognize the role of the Slavs in the development of mankind is a question.

            Where did you get that you don’t want to admit? Why is history silent?
        4. +1
          4 February 2012 15: 40
          in! recommend it to the states. And then they are too emboldened in the world with their aircraft carriers.

          But on the other hand, without the Army, your education may be useful to those who will own you as slaves. Didn’t you hear about sharashki? but it was in the USSR, and so you will be hunched over 24 hours a day for no one knows ... and whether you will survive
          In general, this is such a fallacy: education is good, the army is bad !!! This is where so taught? Do not go to rallies and do not listen to the liberals. There is no truth in them - one deceit! They work for usa!
          Without love for the motherland, the peoples inhabiting it are uprooted by it.
      3. +1
        4 February 2012 15: 31
        education is in order to work efficiently, and without spirituality no education is worth anything.
        Any state without spirituality perishes.
        Here the states rest on strength and adventurism, which they acquired through geniuses, and now you can see how they are sinking. And do not tell tales here ... about their power. Only one empty force of the army remained. And then ....
        If the states were in the place of Russia, which they spread, then only the prairies with wild coyotes would remain in the place of the states. But Russia is being reborn, for it is spiritually rich.
        Moscow is the third Rome!

        Everything is in God's hands. God is with us!
  3. +12
    3 February 2012 08: 49
    In fact, there is nothing new in the fact that the image of an "orc" is being molded from Russia in the West ... This has been the case for centuries - wild Asia (Russia) does not deserve the blessings given by the Almighty and, therefore, white and fluffy Western "civilizers" by the tenacity of a masochist, they climb into her territory, get in the face and, again, hatch plans for an invasion. For me, the most bitter thing in this pack are the facts of how Georgia, for which Russia has been a magnanimous patron and protector for centuries, was reborn (in a surprisingly short time!) Into an evil, paranoid geek who tirelessly, carrying out the will of its masters, like angry, mad dog barks incessantly! That's the most offensive thing! Thousands of lives of Russian soldiers, given for "Brothers in Christ" - crumbled ... There is no forgiveness for the foul Sahak!
    1. Sergh
      +5
      3 February 2012 09: 15
      That's it, there really is nothing to add, short and clear! Only in Afghanistan in the old days, how many hospitals, schools, factories and just housing were built by the USSR. The question is, where are the Amer builders now, it’s clear, they are restoring oil refineries, military bases, and they are distributing the most valuable high-calorie chewing gum to children!
      1. vadimus
        +4
        3 February 2012 09: 29
        They know that they can’t win, but they go away from anger and envy on gam-but! But envy is a terrible sin ... The punishment is just around the corner ...
        1. Chukotka resident
          -6
          3 February 2012 14: 16
          Quote: vadimus
          They know that they can’t win, but they go away from anger and envy on gam-but! But envy is a terrible sin ... The punishment is just around the corner ...

          Yes, and Greece will "enter" the eurozone ... fellow
    2. Evgan
      +2
      3 February 2012 09: 24
      Well, not all of Georgia, thank God ... Only the president and his entourage ...
      1. Chukotka resident
        -5
        3 February 2012 14: 16
        Quote: EvgAn
        Well, not all of Georgia, thank God ... Only the president and his entourage ...

        Where are the people?
        1. 0
          3 February 2012 21: 06
          The people are with us.
          1. Chukotka resident
            -4
            3 February 2012 21: 19
            Quote: Alexander Petrovich
            The people are with us.

            You are a fool, oh how I respect them - the people ... What is a fundamental theme for them ... No.
            1. +1
              3 February 2012 21: 21
              Respect Because they are with us? Incredibly, it looks like you're on the mend.
            2. 0
              3 February 2012 21: 30
              Of course, the topic. For you ... clown ...
              I would be ashamed, well, seriously I would seriously believe my crap ..
              Why clown to demonstrate? For banter?
            3. 0
              4 February 2012 16: 05
              Georgia is a dependent country, but the Georgian people, not sales people, are with the people of Russia
    3. +2
      3 February 2012 09: 25
      Fully agree with you.
      But everything will return to square one, time heals ...
      Kikabidze, however, was depressed ...
    4. +4
      3 February 2012 09: 37
      What can you do ... Countries that cannot afford an independent policy and are forced to go forever in the forwarder of strong countries are doomed to the psychology of jackals: those who are stronger are clinging to that. Hence the conclusion: do not pay attention and strengthen the power of your country. Crawl themselves, mongrel. PS And, by the way, if there are people who want to accuse me of imperial ambitions, I will answer: Russia is doomed to be an Empire. This happened historically and geopolitically. Or become nothing ...
      1. Chukotka resident
        -7
        3 February 2012 14: 18
        Quote: Ribwort
        Countries that cannot afford an independent policy and are forced to go forever in the wake of strong countries are doomed to the psychology of jackals: those who are stronger are sticking to it.

        So you can see who is strong and who is weak. Where is civilization, and where is it not?
        Quote: Ribwort
        And by the way, if there are people who want to accuse me of imperial ambitions, I will answer: Russia is doomed to be an Empire.

        The balls.
        Quote: Ribwort
        This happened historically and geopolitically. Or become nothing ...

        History says one thing - the Great, the Golden Horde broke up, RI broke up, the scoop broke up ...
        1. Aibolit
          +3
          3 February 2012 16: 34
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          So you can see who is strong and who is weak. Where is civilization, and where is it not?

          Yes, by the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq by the orange plague over the Middle East, you can understand hu!
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          The balls.

          Reality
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          History says one thing - the Great, the Golden Horde broke up, RI broke up, the scoop broke up ...

          America will collapse ...
          1. ab
            ab
            0
            4 February 2012 16: 16
            Quote: Aibolit
            America will collapse ...


            In-in, while the fat dries, the thin dies
        2. +1
          3 February 2012 21: 07
          History says one thing: Chukotka is part of Russia forever.
          1. Chukotka resident
            -3
            3 February 2012 21: 20
            Quote: Alexander Petrovich

            History says one thing: Chukotka is part of Russia forever.

            Or maybe the USA?
            1. +1
              3 February 2012 21: 23
              Or turn off the computer and go to bed? And then tomorrow at school, you will miss history and geography. Believe me, there you learn a lot.
            2. 0
              4 February 2012 17: 35
              the very name A resident of Chukotka suggests that you are on the outskirts of the Russian Empire! and along with civilization!
    5. Chukotka resident
      -9
      3 February 2012 14: 15
      Quote: esaul
      In fact, there is nothing new in the fact that the image of an "orc" is being molded from Russia in the West ...

      Why sculpt something that is already historically known to all.
      Quote: esaul
      So it has been for centuries - wild Asia (Russia) does not deserve

      From the times of the horde.
      Quote: esaul
      white and fluffy western "civilizers"

      This can be seen by the standard of living.
      Quote: esaul
      with tenacity of a masochist climb into its territory

      Which one?
      Quote: esaul
      Georgia, for which Russia has been a generous patron and protector for centuries

      Two centuries of occupation.
      Quote: esaul
      into an evil, paranoid geek who tirelessly, fulfilling the will of his masters, like an embittered, rabid dog barks incessantly!

      And that’s what their horde is trying to occupy.
      Quote: esaul
      That’s the most annoying thing!

      It's a shame that representatives of the utopian past empire do not reach self-awareness.
      Quote: esaul
      There is no forgiveness to Sahak foul!

      This is another look who will be judged. Saakashvili, or Medvedev with Nauru. lol
      1. +3
        3 February 2012 14: 35
        Chukchi is worthy of a place on the shelf for trolls. Sculpts such a hunchbacked, already envy takes ...
        1. +1
          3 February 2012 15: 55
          He is a Nazi dogma is more important than logic
          1. Chukotka resident
            -3
            3 February 2012 16: 21
            Quote: Kyrgyz
            He is a Nazi dogma is more important than logic

            Dogma - stupid Iperiyya ... lol
            1. +1
              3 February 2012 16: 55
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Iperiye ...

              What are you And, of course, here - such fool
              1. Chukotka resident
                -2
                3 February 2012 19: 35
                Quote: esaul
                What are you And, of course, here - such

                Tapaympertsy ... lol
        2. recitatorus
          +3
          3 February 2012 16: 10
          And what a diligent and meticulous !!! Everything fell apart ... He just forgot a little, that everything fell apart in the West ... And the USA will fall apart, and the European Union, and NATO. Moreover, they’ll distort as usual, as long as they’re full they look in the same direction, but satiety is a big question. And Russia will again become an empire, a little crazy, shake up, and become. Fate is like that! .. drinks
          1. Chukotka resident
            -2
            3 February 2012 19: 39
            Quote: recitatorus
            And the USA will fall apart

            Already... fellow
            Quote: recitatorus
            and the European Union

            It has risks, but before it, in any form of a raw horde - breathe in the navel ... wink
            Quote: recitatorus
            and nato.

            This is especially ... Already for a long time since 91 years ........ laughing
            Quote: recitatorus
            And Russia will again become an empire, a little frenzied, it will be shaken, and it will become. Fate is like that! ..

            Ahhh, yes, yes - she’s such a fate already ... lol
            1. Aibolit
              +1
              3 February 2012 22: 50
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Already...

              Will fall apart wink
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              It has risks, but before it, in any form of a raw horde - breathe in the navel ...

              "Raw horde" is your brute of an envious bot
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Ahhh, yes, yes - she’s such a fate already ...

              You got the irony from the animal naivety of yours and illiteracy laughing
            2. 0
              4 February 2012 17: 39
              tell me your address, come, talk. or a point will play ?. Do you want to come to me? bully
            3. 0
              4 February 2012 20: 44
              The Slavs always came out stronger from the troubles, and now we will leave. All peoples will benefit from this. History has proven this.
      2. Aibolit
        +7
        3 February 2012 16: 42
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Why sculpt something that is already historically known to all.

        Sculpt sculpt only this baby talk wink
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        This can be seen by the standard of living.

        In Grecie




        In Spain



        In Portugal


        In Germany

        In France


        In the US Citadel of Evil






        1. +3
          3 February 2012 17: 35
          If you adhere to the labourist system of counting, then rallies are everywhere hundred thousandths and more
        2. Chukotka resident
          -3
          3 February 2012 19: 42
          Aibolit,
          And only in Russia-free everything is atlichnaya and fat-on ...















          1. +2
            3 February 2012 22: 38
            Threw Mr.-o-in-and-some and flipping through tired ... The family is not without freaks, and you Trolls are a vivid confirmation of this. You are also stupid to the same. I read trolls and smarter. You do not even propose any solutions; you only state the facts that have been transferred. You have some kind of negatively thought out completely. Have you ever asked yourself questions somehow: who benefits, why benefits, what the separation of countries leads to, what total freedom of personality and speech leads to, and who can use it later, and how to use it, and what it can result in? above yourself, and then write more deliberately.
            1. Chukotka resident
              -5
              3 February 2012 22: 55
              Quote: Alexej

              Threw Mr.-o-in-and-some, flipping tired ...

              This is from the final of the competition - "Russia-2011" ...
              Quote: Alexej
              You are also stupid to the same.

              Are you sure. What can you compare me with yourself?
              Quote: Alexej
              You do not even propose any solutions; you only state the facts that have been transferred.

              We will open the KGB archives and find out the truth! fellow
              Quote: Alexej
              You have some kind of negatively thought out completely.

              I am not a stupid kremlyad, unlike you. No.
              1. Aibolit
                +2
                3 February 2012 23: 12
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                This is from the final of the competition - "Russia-2011" ...

                Normal photos
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                Are you sure. What can you compare me with yourself?

                I do not compare you just stating a fact wink
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                We will open the KGB archives and find out the truth!

                Not earlier than the CIA archives In the meantime, all this is the dogma of your rabbi.
                Rebey just pity you gupysha here and smacks chushsh laughing
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                I'm not a stupid kremlyad, unlike you

                You are worse, you are ordinary Yes
                1. Chukotka resident
                  -2
                  3 February 2012 23: 50
                  Aibolit,
                  Of the two photo collections - where are the slaves? - Do not bother ... lol
                  1. Aibolit
                    +1
                    4 February 2012 00: 00
                    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                    Of the two photo collections - where are the slaves? - Do not bother ...

                    Botoflood
                    Tired, go away from yourself and your bosses scold, you don’t even have a ration, chase him, he will fill up the work, nosy leaders this type leads you by the nose, he is an eyewitness No.
                    1. Chukotka resident
                      -4
                      4 February 2012 00: 25
                      Aibolit,
                      It just so happened ... That I had just read it and was inspired by art ... And I said my thoughts - you can actually find sponsors for it ...
                      I met that for such objective talents they give from 800 bucks ... winked
                      - I also offer myself to organize and control groups, each group controlled by me and coordinated will bring more than one billion dollars in profit a year.
                      1. Aibolit
                        +1
                        4 February 2012 00: 36
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        I also propose myself for the organization and control of groups, each group controlled and coordinated by me will bring more than one billion dollars profit per year.

                        This already doesn’t even cause contempt for you, but only pathetic pity as a flawed, tossing nature bully
                      2. 0
                        4 February 2012 20: 50
                        Well, she’s a vile essence and revealed, do not disgrace the Slavs.
              2. 0
                4 February 2012 17: 51
                We will open the KGB archives and find out the truth. Yeah, just to find out the whole truth will have to open the secret archives of the secret service of Her Majesty and the CIA. then we will truly choke on the truth. but so far they are not burning with desire !!! strange, they are progressive democracy, so to speak! Hde secrets !!!! undemocratic. sanctions must be introduced against these countries.
          2. 0
            4 February 2012 16: 14
            daaaaaaaaaa, this one from Chukotka, the former local - a master of gnats and fraud - no-lies
        3. 0
          4 February 2012 16: 12
          Yes exactly. If in the United States they do this with the dissatisfied, then why do we have to swamp with them. Took from the words of the great "human rights activist" Kovalev
        4. 0
          4 February 2012 20: 46
          Here is Pindos democracy in action.
      3. Aibolit
        +1
        3 February 2012 17: 06
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Which one?

        This one

        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Two centuries of occupation.

        Oh, well, the basting lodge again!
        Georgia's voluntary entry into Russia
        On December 21, 1782, Kartli-Kakheti Tsar Irakli II turned to Catherine II with a request to accept Georgia under the protection of Russia. Catherine II agreed. The contract was concluded on July 24 (August 4), 1783 in the fortress of Georgievsk (North Caucasus).
        On January 18 (30), 1801, Paul I signed a manifesto on the accession of Georgia to Russia. In this document, Kartli and Kakheti were first called the “Georgian Kingdom”. Its population retained all previous rights and privileges, including property, but also the rights and privileges of the Russian Empire extended to it ...

        Monument to the 200th anniversary of the voluntary entry of Georgia into Russia.

        As well as the VOLUNTARY ENTRANCE of Ukraine
        On January 18, 1654 in Pereyaslav, the hetman Bogdan Khmelnitsky made a speech, speaking about the need to choose the lord - the Polish king, the "Basurman" sultan or the Crimean khan and the Russian tsar. The choice in favor of the latter was made because he enjoyed the support of the inhabitants of Ukraine, guided primarily by the religious point of view as a natural association of Orthodox Christians (“What Velmi has bothered us all, and we see that we cannot live without a king ... for a king and a pan we ask ... under the tsar of the Eastern Orthodox with a strong hand ... ”). Then, in the secret Rada, the conditions for the transition were worked out, which would suit the leadership of the Cossack foreman. They included the requirement to protect Zaporizhzhya’s troops from the Poles and preserve long-standing estate rights, including property rights. Under these conditions, the oath was taken by Ukrainians and Moscow ambassadors.
        Monument of friendship of the Russian and Ukrainian peoples in Kiev

        1. Chukotka resident
          -4
          3 February 2012 20: 22

          “Be my brother or I will kill you” - Nicola Chamfort
          “Those who have no brother dream of universal brotherhood” - Charles Shenshol

          Moscow (Russian) official authorities throughout the history of the prohibition and destruction of:

          1627 year. By decree of the tsar of Moscow, Mikhail Fedorovich and his father, Patriarch Filaret, it was ordered the books of the Ukrainian press to be collected and burned in fires, with a severe ban ever in the future to buy Ukrainian books.
          Thus, in Moscow, Tranquilion-Stavrovetsky's "Teaching Gospel" was burned, along with his other books, and the Catechism of Lavrenty Zizaniy Tustanovsky.

          1672 year. The decree prohibiting people from all ranks in all cities to keep books openly or secretly at home in the Ukrainian press, and whoever has them, is severely ordered to bring and deliver the governor, the local ruler.

          1677 year. Patriarch of Moscow Joakim ordered from Ukrainian books to destroy sheets that have a difference from Moscow books.

          1689 year. The Synod forbade the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra to publish the volume of "Chetya-Menaion" by Dmitry Rostovsky.

          1690 year. Moscow Patriarch Ioakim by decree banned all Ukrainian writing, but also the volume of the book "Chetya-Menaion" by Daniel the Zatochnik was ordered to be burned.

          1693 year. A letter from the Moscow Patriarch to the Kiev Pechersk Lavra prohibiting any books in the Ukrainian language.

          1709 year. The decree of Peter I on the prohibition of printing books in the Ukrainian language, and books printed in Church Slavonic, check with the Russian edition, so that they have no difference.

          1720 year. The decree of Peter the Great, so that again there would be no books except church editions in Ukraine, and those old books with books of the Great Russian press should be equalized so that there would be no difference and special dialect.

          December 20, 1720. Peter I issued a decree to the Kiev provincial prince Golitsyn, so that "in all the monasteries remaining in the Russian state, to inspect and collect ancient letters of gratitude and other original curtius letters, as well as historical, handwritten and printed books."

          1721 year. The Synod ordered to send books from Ukrainian printing houses to the "Synod office" for correcting them in accordance with Russian requirements and pronunciation and collation with the censor's stigma.

          1724 year. The printing house of the Kiev Pechersk Lavra was fined one thousand Carbovans for printing books that are not in all respects similar to Great Russian books.
          The Chernigov printing house, which was transported to Moscow, was also fined for the same amount and for the same "fault".

          1729 year. The order of Peter I on the rewriting in Ukraine of government decrees and orders from the Ukrainian language into Russian.

          1740 year. The Russian Empress Anna Ivanovna created the board of the hetman government under the leadership of Moscow Prince Alexei Shakhovsky and introduced the Russian language in office work on the territory of Ukraine.

          Censuses of 1740 - 1748 testify that in 1094 regiments of the Getmanshchyna in 866 villages there were XNUMX schools with teaching in Ukrainian.
          In 1804, a tsar’s decree was issued that banned studies in the Ukrainian language. The results of national oppression immediately affected the state of education in Ukraine.
          Already the census in 1897 showed that for 100 persons there were only 13 literate.

          1748 year. The Synod’s order to Metropolitan Samuel Miloslavsky of Kiev to introduce the Russian language of instruction at the Kiev-Mohyla Academy and in all schools of Ukraine, as a result of which 866 Ukrainian schools disappeared on the Left Bank.

          1750 year. After the abolition of the Office of the Ministerial Board of Little Russian Affairs in the town of Glukhov, clandestine clerical affairs were removed from it and transferred to Russia.
          The documents of the Zaporozka Sich archive, found during the "devastation of the Sich by Lieutenant-General Tekeliy in a chest under the throne of the Sich Church", ended up in the Moscow branch of the general archive of the General Staff.

          1755 year. The Synod ordered the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra to translate into Russian the "Chetya-Menaion" of St. Dmitry of Rostov and the Kiev-Pechersk Patericon.

          1763 year. Decree of Catherine II on the prohibition of teaching in Ukrainian at the Kiev-Mohyla Academy.
          1. Chukotka resident
            -6
            3 February 2012 20: 26
            1764 year. The cancellation of Catherine II Ukrainian hetmanism, and with it the liquidation of Ukrainian educational and cultural institutions and the removal of Ukrainian-speaking officials from power.

            1765 year. Elimination of Catherine II Cossack structure in Slobozhanshchina and Cossack schools.

            1766 year. The synod issued a stern decree to the Kiev Pechersk Lavra to print only those books that are printed and approved by the Synod in the Moscow printing house.

            1769 year. The synod forbade the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra to print primers in the Ukrainian language and ordered them to take away primers that were already in their hands.

            1782 year. Catherine II created a commission for the establishment of public schools in Russia, the tasks of which were to introduce a single form of study and teaching
            Russian language in all schools of the empire.

            1784 year. The synod orders the metropolitan of Kiev and Galicia Samuel to punish students and release teachers from the Kiev-Mohyla Academy for moving away from the Russian language.

            1785 year. The order of Catherine II across all the churches of the empire to send God's service in Russian. The Russian language is instituted in all schools of Ukraine.

            1786 year. The synod again orders the Metropolitan of Kiev to control the Lavra printing house so that there is no difference with the Moscow editions, and that the Kiev-Mohyla Academy immediately introduce a system of study that is legalized for the whole empire.

            The year is 1789. In St. Petersburg, on the initiative of Catherine II, a Comparative Dictionary of All Languages ​​was published, in which the Ukrainian language is defined as Russian, disfigured by Polish.

            1811 year. The closure of the Kiev-Mohyla Academy.

            1847 year. The defeat of the Cyril and Methodius Brotherhood.

            1853 year. The edition of Grabyanka's "Chronicle" was crippled.

            1862 Ukrainian Sunday schools are closed. The publication of the Ukrainian literary and scientific-political journal "Osnova" was stopped.

            1863 year. Valuevsky circular: "There was no Ukrainian language, there is no and cannot be, and who does not understand this is an enemy of Russia."

            1864 year. Thousands of pounds of archival materials were taken to Moscow after the judicial reform in 1864. According to the offender of the Ministry of Justice of December 3, 1866, a large number of documents of liquidated institutions from Volyn, Kiev, Katerinoslav, Podolsky, Kherson and Chernigov provinces got there.

            1869 year. By law, officials of all departments were assigned a significant surcharge for Russification.

            1876 ​​year. Emsky decree. The ban on importing Ukrainian books from abroad, the ban on signing Ukrainian texts with notes, the ban on Ukrainian performances.
            It is no coincidence that M. Lysenko's choir was forced to sing the Ukrainian folk song "Rain" in French at the concert.

            1881 year. The law on permission to print dictionaries of the Ukrainian language, but for Russian spelling, and the production of Ukrainian performances depends on the local authorities.

            1887 year. The censor returned the manuscript of the grammar of the Ukrainian language without reading, writing to the author that there is no need to allow the grammar of that language, which is doomed to non-existence, to be printed.

            1888 year. Decree of Alexander III "On the prohibition of the use in official institutions of the Ukrainian language and the baptism of Ukrainian names."

            1889 year. In Kiev, at the archaeological congress, it is allowed to read essays in all languages ​​except Ukrainian.

            1892 year. The Russian government is ordering the censors to sternly prevent Ukrainian literary translations from the Russian language.

            1894 year. Prohibition of the import of Ukrainian books from abroad.

            1895 year. The prohibition of the Ukrainian reading room and Ukrainian books for children.

            1903 year. At the opening of the monument to I. Kotlyarevsky in Poltava, speech in the Ukrainian language is not allowed.

            1905 year. The Cabinet of Ministers of Russia rejected the petition of Kiev and Kharkov universities to lift the ban on the Ukrainian language, defining this as untimely.

            1906 and 1907. Closing of "Prosvita" in Odessa and Nikolaev.

            1908 year. Senate decree that educational work in Ukraine is harmful and dangerous for Russia.

            1910 year. Stolypin’s decree on the admission of Ukrainians to the category of foreigners and on the prohibition of any Ukrainian organizations.

            1914 year. Decree of Nicholas II on the prohibition of the Ukrainian press.

            1919 year. After the conquest of Ukraine by the Bolsheviks - the destruction of the nationally conscious part of the population and the prohibition of all Ukrainian literary, dramatic and oral works, among which only Ukrainian folk songs - three hundred thousand.

            1921 - 1923 Famine in Ukraine, due to the policy of the Bolshevik Moscow authorities.

            1922 year. Liquidation of "Prosvita" in the Kuban, Zeleny Klin and other places of residence of Ukrainians.

            1929 year. The arrest of Ukrainian scientists and clergy - their replacement in Russian.

            1932 year. Planned and implemented action to eliminate the Ukrainian people.
            In Ukraine, which owns 40% of the world's black soil, up to 12 million Ukrainian speakers, namely peasants, have euthanized the famine in order to preserve the Russified urban population. In the cities introduced a card system and passports.

            1933 year. Stalin's telegram about the destruction of most Ukrainian writers.

            1938 year. Resolution of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (b) on the compulsory study of the Russian language in schools of the republic.

            1939 year. After the occupation of Western Ukraine - the closure of part of Ukrainian and the opening of Russian schools

            1940 year. The deportation of the population of Galicia to Siberia.

            1946 year. Decree of the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union on the approval of Ukrainian spelling, close to Russian. Hunger in Ukraine.

            1947 year. Cleaning among the figures of Ukrainian culture. Again deportation to Siberia of the population of Western Ukraine.
            The plan for the export of Ukrainians to Siberia fell through due to the lack of wagons.

            1949 year. The prohibition to return to Ukraine to those workers who were exported during the war along with their factories. To restore industry in Ukraine sent the Russians. For nationalism, 3% of the Communists were excluded from the CPSU (b) at the XNUMXth Party Congress.
            100 Ukrainian young men and women were transported to the virgin lands - to Kazakhstan and Siberia.

            1958 year. Resolution of the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU on the transition of Ukrainian schools to the Russian language of teaching. and on 17ІV.1959 the Verkhovna Rada of the Ukrainian SSR adopted the relevant Resolution.

            1961 year. The XXII Congress of the CPSU is a new party program about "merging nations" into the only Soviet, that is, Russian, people.

            1962 year. Repression against the defenders of the Ukrainian language.

            1970 year. The order of the USSR Ministry of Education on writing and defending all dissertations in Russian only. Approval only in Moscow.

            1972 year. Second purge and repression against Ukraine after the war. The removal from office of the First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine P. Shelest for the insufficient fight against nationalism. Arrests

            1975 year. New censorship of Taras Shevchenko's "Kobzar".

            1978 year. Collegium of the Ministry of Education of the Ukrainian SSR. Directive "On improving the study of the Russian language in Ukrainian schools."

            1979 year. Tashkent conference - "Russian language - the language of friendship between peoples".

            1983 year. Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union "On improving the study of the Russian language in the schools of the republics." Additional payment for Russian language of teaching 15% and class division.

            1989 year. Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU "On the only official state language in the Soviet Union" (Russian). The same is in the draft Constitution of M. Gorbachev.

            1990 year. Supreme Council of the Soviet Union. The Law on the Languages ​​of the Peoples of the Soviet Union establishes the status of the official language throughout the Union for the Russian language.
            1. +1
              3 February 2012 20: 54
              In read a new edition of Ukrainian (orange)
              ..1627 year. By decree of the tsar of Moscow, Mikhail Fedorovich and his father, Patriarch Filaret, it was ordered the books of the Ukrainian press to be collected and burned in fires, with a severe ban ever in the future to buy Ukrainian books.
              ........... bullshit ....... And you are aware that Ivan Fedorov also burned books and chased ... from sawing-probably also a Ukrainian?
              ALL historical facts were mixed and rigged ... pah, I don’t even want to explain common truths ...
            2. +1
              3 February 2012 21: 14
              Wow, and only Chukotka is missing here. I look at our sins, you famously point out, but maybe you can show that Russia has done good? Then there will be five times more dates. M..duck.
              1. Chukotka resident
                -4
                3 February 2012 21: 53
                Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                Then there will be five times more dates. M..duck.

                Well, yes, for industrialization and coltivization - starved from 7 to 15 million people for export grain, then, under pain of eviction - collected gold. And now this shoblo says - we built the economy for you ...
                I believe that the Ompertsy need to kick on the head immediately for everything ... angry
                1. Aibolit
                  +2
                  3 February 2012 22: 01
                  Well, yes, for industrialization and coltivization - starved from 7 to 15 million people for export grain, then, under pain of eviction - collected gold. And now this shoblo says - we built the economy for you ...
                  I believe that the Ompertsy need to kick on the head immediately for everything ...

                  What else do your roommates say? wink
                2. alexander hjcnjd
                  +1
                  3 February 2012 22: 02
                  Independent Ukraine - it never existed. It is necessary to tear it apart. Crimea, the east of Ukraine and the coast should be taken away. All the rest let them live as they want.
                  1. Aibolit
                    +1
                    3 February 2012 22: 09
                    Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
                    Independent Ukraine - it never existed. It is necessary to tear it apart. Crimea, the east of Ukraine and the coast should be taken away. All the rest let them live as they want.

                    HAHAHA !!!
                    And then came the second continuation of the Madness of the hunted matter is even more stupid than the first from Chukotka which laughing
                3. -1
                  3 February 2012 22: 20
                  Come, I can give you my address. I'm talking seriously. Let's see who will beat someone on the head.
                  1. Chukotka resident
                    -3
                    3 February 2012 22: 58
                    I don’t look for dyots, but if they come, I’ll wet in the toilet ... angry good good good
                    1. +1
                      3 February 2012 23: 15
                      Look, as if he hadn't wet himself in the outhouse.
                      1. Chukotka resident
                        -3
                        3 February 2012 23: 56
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        Look, as if he hadn't wet himself in the outhouse.

                        And I look like the one who can ??? - Guys, I got into your hornet’s code alone and put you down with cancer - who doesn’t know !!! love
                        Who did not know or forgot - I can remind .. No.
                      2. Aibolit
                        0
                        4 February 2012 00: 05
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        And I look like the one who can ??? - Guys, I got into your hornet’s code alone and put you down with cancer - who doesn’t know !!!
                        Who did not know or forgot - I can remind ..

                        This is an empty boast of an asexual schizophrenic who crawled out from under the shkoni bully
                        who constantly complexes his inferiority hides behind bots trying to hide his weakness and infantility
                        laughing
                        your place at the bucket will remain with you forever girl love
                      3. Chukotka resident
                        -2
                        4 February 2012 00: 34
                        Quote: Aibolit
                        This is an empty boast of an asexual schizophrenic who crawled out from under the shkoni

                        Are you sure who you are talking to? ..
                        Quote: Aibolit
                        who constantly complexes his inferiority hides behind bots trying to hide his weakness and infantility

                        Hmm, I’m one of the main demolitionists of Runet myths in the military-industrial complex, I knew. This is so far I am encrypting with you so simple ...
                        Quote: Aibolit
                        your place at the bucket will remain with you forever girl

                        - Salabonsgood
                      4. Aibolit
                        0
                        4 February 2012 00: 44
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        Are you sure who you are talking to? ..

                        With a cock lowered to the patient cannot be laughing
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        Hmm, I’m one of the main demolitionists of Runet myths in the military-industrial complex, I knew. This is so far I am encrypting with you so simple ...

                        do you want to consider yourself Boris Moiseev consider yes even though you ass pimple him
                        Unhappy you are sick it happened after you were sexually abused fool
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        - Salabons

                        No, we can still angry
                      5. Chukotka resident
                        -2
                        4 February 2012 00: 51
                        Aibolit,
                        You are migleff, this point of view was long ago too.
                        - And yet you were abused ...
                        Quote: Aibolit
                        No, we can still

                        Kiss after your next exposure - self in the ass, lowered ... lol
                      6. Aibolit
                        -1
                        4 February 2012 00: 56
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        You are migleff, this point of view was long ago too.

                        You were caught with a magnifying glass in your mouth, and you lick the asshole, which still suffers from suffering, and you are sorry to try to make excuses that you are not sick and omitted, but the king of Egyptian unalai you bully
                      7. 0
                        4 February 2012 18: 10
                        I’m sure that I’m talking with a subcompact mashine. When I meet, can I prove that you will give the address? you are our encrypted!
                        This is so far I’m encrypting with you in a simple way ... - you already encrypt in a serious way so that we don’t observe!
                      8. +1
                        4 February 2012 00: 17
                        it’s necessary, what kind of hero, yes, in lies and gloating you are not surpassed, and I confess to us never to catch you. But, having come here, you showed not courage, but most likely your stupidity and the fact that you are an outright fool here everyone already knows.
                      9. 0
                        4 February 2012 18: 04
                        And I look like the one who can ??? - is very similar! Guys, I entered one of your hornet’s corals and put you down with cancer - who doesn’t know !!! - rather, I didn’t bend the baby, Who didn’t know or forgot - I can remind you, and we still remember how you drool whistle.
                      10. 0
                        4 February 2012 21: 03
                        Sadomaso or something. Going high against the Slavs.
                4. 0
                  4 February 2012 20: 59
                  What is given as an example has affected all Russian people. Everyone suffered loss and grief. Only a madman can separate someone from this. Do not divide the Russians, we are all Slavs.
            3. +1
              3 February 2012 21: 52
              Clown ... bring at least a single photocopy, photograph, facsimile of your opus ...
              Well, what can I call you after that ..... I’ll take off my socks, donned yesterday — and I’ll say - brothers, consider, don’t wash, then I’m ashamed - like me, oaths were Muscovite, they were boring ... they didn’t let me take off my socks, three days ..
              You clown, and all things ...
              Ah, Ukrainians were always stubborn ... for which they were appreciated ... by all the political officers in the Red Army, and then in the SA (the Soviet Army - for the especially stubborn) - there were their Ukrainians, I even emphasize - the most svidomyi blasphemes from the West.
              Only under Khrushchev - that’s really ukroFamily - could a thought and decision arise - to create a Political School of the Navy in Kiev.
              What they deduce Sagaidachnogo in the naval commanders - Khrushchev NS ... that’s where the titan is ... of marine thought .... So what, what did the famine allegedly suit them ... it's all the oaths of Muscovites to blame ....
            4. Aibolit
              +1
              3 February 2012 22: 41
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              official throughout the Union.

              Well, let's continue to wash the shitty, sexless individual with shit angry
              Documents provided by the State Archive of the Russian Federation testifying to the cooperation of nationalist groups in Ukraine during the Second World War with the Nazis and their atrocities
              19 [44]
              List of Nazi occupiers and their accomplices who committed atrocities in the Volyn region:
              7 Ukrainians and 1 Pole "Gang of Greens" who shot Soviet citizens (document)
              20.10.44
              The atrocity act in M. Manevichy of the Manevichsky district of the Volyn region. "Police called Greens" took part in executions
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
              19.10.44
              Protocol for the examination of the witness Bronstein B.L. on the participation of the "Polish police" and the "greens" in executions of civilians in the Manevichsky district of the Volyn region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              18.10.44
              Protocol of interrogation of a witness Singal L.Ya. on the participation of the "Polish police" and "Zelenovtsev" in executions of civilians in the Manevichsky district of the Volyn region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              18.10.44
              The protocol for the interrogation of witness Flag Sh.M. on the participation of the "Polish police" and "Zelenovtsev" in executions of civilians in the Manevichsky district of the Volyn region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              24.01.45
              The act on the destruction of the Jewish executioners by the German executioners in the Matsievsky district of the Volyn region: "German-Ukrainian nationalists (schutz battalions created by the Germans) took an active part in the destruction of the Jewish-Ukrainian civilian population"
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              06.10.44
              The act of extermination by the German occupiers and Ukrainian nationalists (Blyashchuk A.S., Likhachevsky N.) of the Jewish population and the Soviet-party asset in the Kamen-Kashirsky district of the Volyn region
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
              22.02.45
              The act "On the atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the Tsumansky district of the Volyn region" by the gang of "Ukrainian-German nationalists" destroyed by burning all the buildings of the settlements of Sofiyivka, Maryanovka, Ignatovka
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              12.02.45
              Act on the atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Gremyacha, Tsumansky district of the Volyn region “In addition, gangsters by Ukrainian-German nationalists are insulted” - 3 people (document)
              12.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Gorodishchi of the Tsumansky district of the Volyn region “In addition to this, Ukrainian-German nationalists gangsters” - 3 people were killed
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              12.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Skreshtovka, Tsumansky district of the Volyn region, and a list of citizens killed by Bandera in 1943-1944. - 28 people
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
              12.02.45
              Act on the atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Zhuravichi, Tsumansky district of the Volyn region “In addition, gangs of Ukrainian-German nationalists led by Rubashenko and Gamaliy were killed” - 8 people
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              17.02.45
              The act on the atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Holonevichi in the Tsumansky district of the Volyn region “In addition, they are muzzled by gangs of Ukrainian-German nationalists” - 6 people.
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              17.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Maidan-Lipensky, Tsumansky District, Volyn Region - 5 people. killed by Ukrainian nationalists
              (document)
              17.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Matiyki, Tsumansky district, Volyn region - 3 people. killed by Ukrainian nationalists
              (document)
              17.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Lipno, Tsumansky district, Volyn region - 7 people. killed by Ukrainian nationalists
              (document)
              19.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Goraymovka, Tsumansky district of the Volyn region - 3 people. killed by Ukrainian nationalists
              (document)
              19.02.45
              The act of atrocities and atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the village of Krasnaya Volya, Tsumansky district, Volyn region - 6 people. killed by Ukrainian nationalists
              (document)
              11.10.44
              The act of killing by Ukrainian nationalists of the peaceful Polish population on the territory of the Prebrazhsky village council of the Volyn region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              19 [44]
              The list of persons guilty of mass executions and the theft in German slavery of Soviet citizens in the Volyn region. On pp. 8, 9 appear Ukrainian police
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6)
              08.12.44
              The protocol for the interrogation of witness Maltz Oh.L. about atrocities in the territory of the Medenitsky district of the Drogobych region, including the participation of Ukrainian police in executions and terrorist acts of Ukrainian nationalists against the Polish population
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
              10.04.45
              The atrocity act of the Nazi occupiers and their accomplices of Ukrainian nationalists in the Lower Ustriksky district of Drogobych region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              27.04.45
              The act of atrocities of the Nazi occupiers and their accomplices of Ukrainian nationalists in the Turkovsky district of the Drogobych region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              14.01.45
              Protocol for the interrogation of witness Matkovsky about the atrocities of the Nazi occupiers and their accomplices of Ukrainian nationalists in the Turkovsky district of the Drohobych region
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
              1945
              The list of "Especially distinguished in robberies, looting and atrocities against civilians of the Turkovsky district of the Drogobych region." Along with the Germans, Ukrainian nationalists are indicated
              (document)
              1945
              List of Nazi criminals and their accomplices of Ukrainian nationalists in the Mosti district of Drohobych region
              (document)
              14.04.45
              The protocol of interrogation of the witness Pilyak V.N. about the burning alive in July 1941 by Ukrainian nationalists of Jews in the village of Bystrica, Drohobych region
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              21.12.44
              The protocol of interrogation of witness Kamerman S.M. on the activities of Ukrainian nationalists during the German occupation of Drogobych, incl. extermination of Jews
              (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6 page 7)
              24.05.45
              Act of atrocities committed during the German occupation of Old Sambir under the command of commandant Ivan Volinets
              (document)
              1945
              The act of extermination of the Jewish population in the city of Borislav with the participation of the Ukrainian police and the “Sichoviks”
              (document: p. 1 p. 2)
              1. pioneer
                0
                6 February 2012 15: 40
                D. Medvedev in his memoir-type book "Strong in Spirit" provides enough information about the activities of the OUN. I advise those who have not read it, a very interesting book.
            5. 0
              4 February 2012 20: 56
              gray mare. Why so much bile. Really these representatives of the State Department are Slavs. I do not believe.
          2. Aibolit
            +1
            3 February 2012 21: 43
            About how much you worked hard !!!
            but to your leprosy we Russian oh how far!


            Volyn Massacre (Polish Rze woyska) (Volyn tragedy, Ukrainian: Volinska tragedy, Polish. Tragedia Woynia) - ethnopolitical conflict accompanied by a massive the destruction of the Ukrainian rebel army-OUN (b) ethnic Polish civilian population and, on a smaller scale, civilians of other nationalities, including Ukrainians [1], in the territories of the General District of Volyn-Podolia (German: Generalbezirk Wolhynien-Podolien), which were under Polish control until September 1939, which began in March 1943 and reached a peak in July of that year. The response of the Polish side, begun in late summer 1943, led to significant casualties among the Ukrainian civilian population. The most bloody episode of the Ukrainian-Polish conflict in the mid-20th century, which many historians (primarily Polish) stands out from the general picture of the Ukrainian-Polish armed conflict. Quite often, Polish historians interpret these events exclusively as an anti-Polish action of the UPA, and Ukrainian focus on the motives that led to the UPA of this action, and also pay considerable attention to the response of the Home Army against the civilian Ukrainian population, including in Poland [2] .
            Although cases of extermination of Ukrainians and Poles have been recorded since 1942 [3]: 55 [4], these actions became widespread in the spring of 1943, when the Volyn regional wire of the OUN (b) decided to expel local Poles from Volyn. The actions of the Ukrainian armed units were originally directed against the Poles serving in the German administration who were protecting forests and state estates (legshafts). Then they also spread to Poles living in rural areas - first to those who arrived in the interwar period, and then to those who lived there permanently [2]. The events reached their peak on July 11, 1943, when more than 150 Polish settlements were simultaneously attacked. During 1943, up to 100 Polish self-defense bases were created in Volyn, most of which were destroyed by UPA units. Only large ones survived that had good material support from the Craiova Army and enjoyed the help of Soviet partisans [3]: 87-89. Since the end of summer (especially actively since the fall) they began to carry out “preventive” attacks on UPA bases or in order to avenge the actions of UPA units. In addition, raids were carried out on neighboring Ukrainian villages to replenish food supplies, while there were often killings of local residents, and several Ukrainian villages were partially or completely burned. [3]: 88-90,95
            A part of the civilian population of Ukrainian villages took part in the extermination of the Poles, and detachments of auxiliary police and gendarmerie manned by the Poles, subordinate to the Germans, took part in the extermination of the Ukrainians [5]: 140-142.
            During the hostilities of the Home Army and Soviet partisans against the UPA, a significant part of the Ukrainian population also suffered [5]: 154-158. Separate detachments of the Craiova Army, contrary to the orders of their command about the inadmissibility of participation in “pacification” actions against Ukrainian villages, switched to “blind” actions of retaliation [5]: 161,165-167.
            In the course of the study “Map” conducted in Poland, it was found that as a result of the UPA-OUN (B) and Security Council of the OUN (b), in which part of the local Ukrainian population and sometimes detachments of Ukrainian nationalists of other movements took part, the number of Poles killed in Volyn amounted to at least 36543-36750 people who have been identified names and places of death. In addition, the same study counted from 13500 to more than 23000 Poles, the circumstances of the death of which were not clarified [6] [7] [8]: 48,279.
            A number of researchers say that the victims of the massacre were probably about 50-60 thousand Poles [9] [10] [11], during the discussion about the number of victims from the Polish side, estimates were made from 30 to 80 thousand [12] [13 ] [14] [15] [16].
            In Ukraine, such calculations were not carried out, the number of deaths from the Ukrainian side is estimated at several thousand people, while some historians write about the total number of dead Ukrainians from 2 to 3 thousand [10] [11], others that in 1943-1944 directly from the actions of the Polish armed forces subordinate to the Home Army, at least 2000 civilian Ukrainians died [8]: 279.
            After the Second World War in the USSR and Poland, these events were not advertised. Again, the events of 1943-1945, the historians of Poland turned in the late 80s of the 20th century, and in Ukraine fundamental research on this topic began in 1997 as part of the Government Commission on the OUN-UPA problem. [17]
            1. 0
              4 February 2012 21: 09
              I read about the atrocities of traitors in Ukraine and Belarus. From where is inhuman malice to his own people.
          3. +2
            4 February 2012 17: 16
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            1729 year. The order of Peter I on the rewriting in Ukraine of government regulations and orders from Ukrainian

            I apologize, but don’t tell me how Peter 1 was able to give orders from the grave, he died in 1725.
          4. 0
            4 February 2012 20: 53
            There was no Ukrainian language, one people had one language.
        2. Aibolit
          +2
          3 February 2012 22: 43
          23.12.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Orenstay D.L. about organizing Jewish
          Source
          http://www.ln.mid.ru/ns-arch.nsf/932b471b7dc29104c32572ba00560533/5919e8082ae609
          4dc3257589002fbc1c? OpenDocument


          pogroms in Borislav city commissioner of the city Ukrainian nationalist Nikolai Besarab
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          26.12.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Bykov V.G. on the participation of Ukrainian nationalists in the murder of Jews in the city of Borislav
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          14.12.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Wolfinger G.A. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the murders of Jews in Stry
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5)
          14.12.44
          Protocol of interrogation of a witness Shin V.D. (resident of Stry): “The Germans during the occupation had contact with Bendera and supplied them with weapons and allowed to exterminate the Poles”
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          1945
          The act of extermination of the Jewish population of Sambor of the Drogobych region by the Nazi invaders and Ukrainian nationalists (in Ukrainian)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5)
          22.09.44
          The protocol of interrogation of the witness Zaydenvar G.D. about staying in Yaktorovo camp. The camp guards consisted of Ukrainian police
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          23.09.44
          The protocol of the interrogation of witness Gerner M.AND. on the arrest and beating of the Jewish population of Lviv by the Ukrainian police
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6)
          24.09.44-30.09.44
          The act of the district commission for the establishment and investigation of the crimes of the Nazi invaders in Rava-Russian district of Lviv region. It is said about the participation in the raids and executions of the "Ukrainian-fascist police"
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6 page 7 page 8)
          16.09.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Rosen A.The. on the participation of Ukrainian nationalists in the arrests of Jews in Zolochev, Lviv region
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          16.09.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Rosen E.The. on the participation of Ukrainian nationalists in the arrests and executions of Jews in Zolochev, Lviv region
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          24.09.44
          The act of the city commission for the establishment and investigation of the crimes of the Nazi invaders in Zolochev, Lviv region. It is said about the participation in executions of civilians of Ukrainian nationalists
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          25.10.44
          The act of the commission for the establishment and investigation of the crimes of the Nazi invaders in the Kamensk-Bug (Kamenko-Strumilovsky) district of the Lviv region. It is said about the participation of the Ukrainian police in the extermination of Jews (document)
          24.10.44-27.10.44
          Act of the commission for the establishment and investigation of the atrocities of the Nazi invaders in Yavorivskyi district, Lviv region. Among the criminals are Ukrainian policemen (surnames) and nationalists (nicknames)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          24.09.44
          The act of the city commission for the establishment and investigation of the crimes of the Nazi invaders in Zolochev, Lviv region. It is said about the participation in executions of civilians of Ukrainian nationalists
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          1944
          List of Nazi occupiers and their accomplices who committed atrocities in the m. Berezne, Bereznovsky district, Rivne region. Appear Ukrainian police
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          1944
          The list of perpetrators of torture, torture and killings of Soviet citizens in the Bereznovsky district of Rivne region. Appear Ukrainian police and others.
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          1944
          List of Nazi occupiers and their accomplices who committed atrocities in Verba m. Verb district, Rivne region. Appears chief of police Eliseev Aleksey (document)
          01.06.45
          Indications Vaysman M.Sh. about carrying out pogrom by Ukrainian nationalists in the village of Andruga in the Vladimir region of the Rivne region
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          23.11.44
          The conclusion about the atrocities of the Nazi invaders in the territory of the Vysotsky district of the Rivne region. Mentioned by Ukrainian police
          (document: p. 1 p. 2)
          30.11.44
          The conclusion of the prosecutor of the Kozinsky district of the Rivne region on the court of Ukrainian nationalists who committed atrocities in the territory of the Kozinsky district
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          11.01.45
          The conclusion of the prosecutor of the Koretsky district of the Rivne region on the court of the Nazi occupiers and their accomplices who committed atrocities in the territory of the Korets district. The Ukrainian policemen who participated in the executions are listed
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
          24.11.44-26.11.44
          The act of the commission to investigate the atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the Kostopolsky district of the Rivne region. The participants in the extermination of civilians, including Ukrainians (document)
          04.12.44
          The protocol of the interrogation of witness Vax A.E. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in Kostopol, Rivne region in the executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5)
          22.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness A. Mikolaevskaya on the participation of the Ukrainian police in Kostopol, Rivne region in the executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Zemba on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and beating of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Zaremba V.F. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          Protocol of interrogation of witness Rogovsky G.T. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness A. Legenkaya on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          Protocol for the interrogation of a witness Misyurevich Z.F. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          23.11.44
          The protocol of interrogation of the witness M. Trikach on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          24.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Lensky C. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6)
          24.11.44
          The protocol of interrogation of the witness Melnik Oh.The.The. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          24.11.44
          The protocol for the interrogation of witness Zaremba M.The. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          24.11.44
          Protocol of interrogation of witness Kshemenovskaya E.I. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          24.11.44
          Protocol of interrogation of witness S. Guzevich .. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          30.11.44
          The protocol of interrogation of witness Shapiro R.S. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5)
          01.12.44
          Protocol of interrogation of witness Sulikovsky I.A. on the participation of the Ukrainian police in the city of Kostopol, Rivne region in the arrests and executions of civilians (vain and copy)
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3)
          09.12.44
          The act of the commission to investigate the atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices in the city of Krasnoarmeisk Rivne region. The participants in the extermination of civilians, including Ukrainian police
          (document: page 1 page 2 page 3 page 4)
      4. Aibolit
        +4
        3 February 2012 17: 48
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        This is another look who will be judged. Saakashvili, or Medvedev with Nauru.

        This is lyrics.
        But they will treat you seriously wink
        1. vladimir64ss
          +2
          3 February 2012 18: 48
          Guys. And for an uncompromising struggle with the trolls give orders? And then it's time to reward Aibolit.
          1. 0
            3 February 2012 19: 46
            Quote: vladimir64ss
            Guys. And for an uncompromising struggle with the trolls give orders? And then it's time to reward Aibolit

            Give me the rewards as I do. drinks
          2. +2
            3 February 2012 19: 57
            Yes, the Resident of Chukchi - this is the very Bandarlots, Mr. Tank. Disguised as an infection.
        2. Chukotka resident
          -2
          3 February 2012 19: 57
          Aibolit,
          I will cure you, for my last word.
          1. Aibolit
            +2
            3 February 2012 20: 22
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            I will cure you for my last word.

            For you made me understand once more your madness as your stupidity has no limits fool
            Amen
            1. Chukotka resident
              -3
              3 February 2012 20: 29
              For I am the truth, and you eryskaya Aybolitskaya
              1. +2
                3 February 2012 21: 16
                all clear. Guys, let the troll here, do not answer him. Do not even minus, otherwise he gets an orgasm from this.
              2. Aibolit
                +3
                3 February 2012 21: 57
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                For I am the truth, and you eryskaya Aybolitskaya

                Fuck even in the right to talk to the parfatom about erisi for the whole being is your peysato and your essence is God-Wicked! but your flesh is God-opposing! You are born a heretic and die like a hereticam
                Amen!
              3. +1
                4 February 2012 18: 18
                For I am the truth, get fucked, he followed in the footsteps of Bush and equated himself with GOD!
          2. +1
            3 February 2012 20: 56
            You will choke on your bile ... therefore we will bury you, we’ll kill you ......
          3. 0
            4 February 2012 18: 15
            the last word is spoken in person. where will we meet?
        3. Chukotka resident
          -3
          3 February 2012 21: 27
          I’m an anesthetist, according to your anaesthesiologist-resuscitator - I’ll cure you a bitch that no one will save ...
          The main thing I know where, how and how not how - to treat you ...
          1. Aibolit
            +1
            3 February 2012 22: 06
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            I’m an anesthetist, according to your anaesthesiologist-resuscitator - I’ll cure you a bitch that no one will save ...
            The main thing I know where, how and how not how - to treat you ...

            Clinical manifestations of psychosis IN THE FACE symptoms Change in character: irritability, anxiety, nervousness, anger, aggression laughing
            1. Chukotka resident
              -4
              3 February 2012 22: 59
              I’ve been calm for a long time and I know - your pain points ...
      5. -1
        3 February 2012 18: 41
        (This can be seen by the standard of living.) Do not forget that they have a different climate ..
      6. Auschwitz
        -1
        3 February 2012 20: 06
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        This can be seen by the standard of living.

        I will continue the session with a schizophrenic, even though I am not a certified doctor
        Protests against government plans - cut social spending - swept the UK
        Protests against government plans to cut social spending have swept the UK. So far, all shares are peaceful.
        As reported by Rossiya 24, several thousand people marched through the streets of London carrying trade union flags and banners "War on cuts" and "We will not pay." The reform proposed by the Minister of Finance affects almost all areas and could lead to the dismissal of almost half a million public sector employees within four years.
        The country has a huge budget deficit - 11% of GDP. And the office of David Cameron has to make difficult decisions. Moreover, the poorest citizens of Great Britain will suffer the most.
        This situation also does not suit residents of Northern Ireland. Despite the rain, thousands of people gathered in Belfast. The rally organized the Irish Congress of Trade Unions. Due to anti-crisis measures, government jobs could lose up to 50 thousand Irish.







        Protest in Italy





        Protests in Poland
        The violent indignation of the Polish deputies caused the unexpected interest of the American Embassy in Warsaw in the internal procedural issues of voting in the Commission on Innovations and Modern Technologies. An employee of the embassy called MP Mieczyslaw Holba asking if the rules of the Sejm had been violated when voting in the commission, and whether the vote was free or was based on decisions of the factions. Representatives of all political parties strongly protested the intervention of the embassy in the internal affairs of Poland.


      7. +3
        3 February 2012 21: 08
        Saakashvili will simply be hanged, without trial. and for the eggs.
        1. Chukotka resident
          -3
          3 February 2012 21: 28
          Quote: Alexander Petrovich

          Saakashvili will simply be hanged, without trial. and for the eggs.

          Or maybe Lukash?
          1. Aibolit
            +2
            3 February 2012 21: 49
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            Or maybe Lukash?

            Not Saakashvili and his own people, although what kind of people this Judas can have ...
          2. 0
            3 February 2012 22: 29
            And where does Lukashenko,?
      8. 0
        4 February 2012 16: 06
        Remember Clinton and Obama
    6. +1
      3 February 2012 17: 03
      Esaul, believe that Saakashvili is not the whole of Georgia, and it is impossible to put equality between a small group of local leaders and the whole people. When Misha and his K * are thrown by the owners, and sooner or later it will happen anyway (the dollar is not rubber, but the paper is torn) "EVERYTHING will return to square one."
      1. 0
        3 February 2012 19: 52
        xabaroff.ven,
        Benjamin, I greet you, buddy, and assure you that, in the context of my comment regarding Georgia, it was, of course, not all the Georgian people, but the clique of jackals temporarily in power. I shake my hand, my friend and share your position! good
    7. Odesit
      +1
      3 February 2012 21: 01
      ESAULU.
      You speak the truth Boyarin!
      1. +2
        4 February 2012 15: 57
        Odesit,
        Thanks, buddy! drinks
    8. ab
      ab
      -3
      4 February 2012 13: 50
      Quote: esaul
      are the facts of how Georgia, for which Russia has been a generous patron and protector for centuries,

      Maybe the whole problem is * generous patronage *, but they wanted to be equal in the family? And delve into the origins of the war, Russia is not so soft (remember who was before Saakashvili), relations in the 1st Chechen. Pandora Gorge. Support for separatism of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Georgia has quite a lot of claims to Russia. They also need to be sorted out. Georgia is a separate state, and Russia has always considered it its vassal. maybe this is the source of the conflict.
      By the way, according to the posts of some Georgians, they are quite satisfied with Saakashvili.
      1. +1
        4 February 2012 21: 15
        According to the St. George Treaty, Georgia became part of the Russian Empire. And she was happy, though during the revolution the Ossetians were cut.
    9. +1
      4 February 2012 16: 02
      Georgia itself requested to be a part of Russia. If they didn’t accept, then instead of Georgia there would be Turkey or Iran. But these representatives of the marshes have one thing in mind: propaganda! Moreover, mediocre!
      1. ab
        ab
        -1
        4 February 2012 16: 09
        Quote: ioann1
        If they didn’t accept, then instead of Georgia there would be Turkey or Iran.

        And also Zimbabwe, Madagascar and Papua New Guinea. By the way, do the Turks know that they asked to go to Russia?
  4. Igaryok
    +6
    3 February 2012 09: 05
    As long as people live in poverty in their own country, their most important enemy will be in the Kremlin and you cannot explain to them that we have enemies in the West.
    1. +4
      3 February 2012 12: 08
      Quote: Igaryok
      As long as people live in poverty in their own country, their most important enemy will be in the Kremlin and you cannot explain to them that we have enemies in the West.


      And our brothers in the CIS that they will be fine with Russia and not with the West. There will always be one answer. If you are so smart and good why you live so poorly in your own country, there is no order, but also drag us.
      1. Igaryok
        +3
        3 February 2012 13: 06
        Quote: Ascetic
        And our brothers in the CIS that they will be fine with Russia and not with the West. There will always be one answer. If you are so smart and good why you live so poorly in your own country, there is no order, but also drag us.

        + 1.And then here many with a naked train..you want to build an Empire.
        1. sashalenovo
          -6
          3 February 2012 13: 38
          Instead of taking care of their people, the Kremlin’s gandons make a map of the world and build imperial ambitions. They quarreled with Ukraine, Georgia, America, etc. And they support the whole world sucks only because they are against America. They are tricking money into the Caucasus, they are occupying Abkhazia and South Ossetia. We ruin our best guys in the Caucasus.
          And their people for the Kremlin-only disenfranchised cattle with a bare ass. The country has neither industry nor agriculture, half of the country is in security guards, it’s good that there are pensions, we live while there is a Gazprom pipe (a country-forming enterprise). Soon, Gazprom will be privatized as announced for 7-10 years and everything has arrived.
          And about Iran. Russia in the near future will be at war with Iran. -Predictions of the future from Lela Kakuliya http://terrao.livejournal.com/2989644.html
          1. Chukotka resident
            -6
            3 February 2012 14: 25
            Quote: sashalenovo
            Instead of taking care of their people, the Kremlin’s gandons make a map of the world and build imperial ambitions.

            These are GBist geopolitics; they cannot think otherwise.
            Quote: sashalenovo
            They are tricking money into the Caucasus, they are occupying Abkhazia and South Ossetia. We ruin our best guys in the Caucasus.

            For example, from the fresh - Ingushetia is actively advocating the genocide of the Circassian people.
            Quote: sashalenovo
            And their people for the Kremlin-only disenfranchised cattle with a bare ass.

            The Kremlin benefits the country of slaves and no-banderlog for a bowl of pottage.
            Quote: sashalenovo
            Soon, Gazprom will be privatized as announced for 7-10 years and everything has arrived.

            He is already in his pocket.
            1. -1
              3 February 2012 14: 36
              Two moron - is power!
              1. Chukotka resident
                +4
                3 February 2012 14: 54
                Quote: Banshee
                Two moron - is power!

                Not power, it's called a tandem, Putin and Medvedev.
            2. Aibolit
              +2
              3 February 2012 14: 39
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              These are GBist geopolitics; they cannot think otherwise.

              Standard template for the answer of the CRA bot! laughing
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              For example, from the fresh - Ingushetia is actively advocating the genocide of the Circassian people.

              What is it clear from?
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              The Kremlin benefits the country of slaves and no-banderlog for a bowl of pottage.

              The whole bloodthirsty Washington shamans turn this into slavery! am
              Where blood flows like a river where there is an American soldier bearing slavery to the peoples of the whole world!
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              He is already in his pocket.

              I agree here
        2. Chukotka resident
          -2
          3 February 2012 14: 22
          Quote: Igaryok
          + 1.And then here many with a naked train..you want to build an Empire.

          +100
          Now dreams are not about empire, but about how, at the expense of others, to extend their agony.
          1. Aibolit
            -2
            3 February 2012 14: 35
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            Now dreams are not about empire, but about how, at the expense of others, to extend their agony.

            This agony is your miserable life! am
            And Great Russia, led by Putin, is advancing along the path of progress and strengthening friendship between the fraternal peoples of the former Soviet republics! Yes
            1. Chukotka resident
              -4
              3 February 2012 14: 59
              Quote: Aibolit
              And Great Russia, led by Putin, is advancing along the path of progress and strengthening friendship between the fraternal peoples of the former Soviet republics!

              Yeah, see, see ... For example, if they hit Iran, then Azerbaijan will hit Iran and Armenia. Russia will climb into Armenia, Georgia will strike at occupants in South Africa and Abkhazia, at this big mess - Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush will raise their heads ...
              1. Aibolit
                0
                3 February 2012 17: 19
                Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                Yeah, see, see ... For example, if they hit Iran, then Azerbaijan will hit Iran and Armenia. Russia will climb into Armenia, Georgia will strike at occupants in South Africa and Abkhazia, at this big mess - Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush will raise their heads ...

                Dreams Dreams laughing
                1. Chukotka resident
                  -3
                  3 February 2012 21: 31
                  Quote: Aibolit
                  Dreams Dreams

                  Don’t just drench yourself ...
                  1. Aibolit
                    +1
                    3 February 2012 21: 40
                    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                    Don’t just drench yourself ...

                    Do not dare yourself only with such statements wink
      2. Chukotka resident
        -3
        3 February 2012 14: 21
        Quote: Ascetic
        And our brothers in the CIS that they will be fine with Russia and not with the West. There will always be one answer.

        Yes, because - they swam, they know ...
        Quote: Ascetic
        If you are so smart and good why you live so poorly in your own country, there is no order, but also drag us.

        Yeah, envy such a small country like Georgia ... Totalitarian - we do not take Belarus and Kazakhstan - they themselves have chosen such a path so far.
        1. Aibolit
          +2
          3 February 2012 14: 31
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          Yeah, envy such a small country like Georgia ... Totalitarian - we do not take Belarus and Kazakhstan - they themselves have chosen such a path so far.

          A totalitarian small country like Georgia, we do not envy! wink
          1. Chukotka resident
            -4
            3 February 2012 15: 19
            Quote: Aibolit
            A totalitarian small country like Georgia, we do not envy!

            laughing
            Here I am interested in something else, why such a Euro-Kazakhstan - doesn’t Russia want to build up weapons for itself?
            1. Aibolit
              +2
              3 February 2012 16: 25
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Here I am interested in something else, why such a Euro-Kazakhstan - doesn’t Russia want to build up weapons for itself?

              This suggests that in the article
              The black myth of the "Russian threat" and "Russian occupation"
              said to believe!
              The Russian threat and occupation is a myth !!!
              1. Chukotka resident
                -2
                3 February 2012 21: 34
                Quote: Aibolit
                This suggests that in the article

                no, it says that in - Ukraine ... fellow lol angry
                Quote: Aibolit
                The Russian threat and occupation is a myth !!

                Fuck, for the first time I agree with you - well, then ...
      3. Odesit
        +1
        4 February 2012 01: 29
        Speak correctly to Ascetic!
        Long time no read with you.
        Greetings to Stanislav.
    2. Chukotka resident
      -2
      3 February 2012 14: 19
      Quote: Igaryok
      As long as people live in poverty in their own country, their most important enemy will be in the Kremlin and you cannot explain to them that we have enemies in the West.

      But the Kremlin is profitable to look for the enemy outside, otherwise the enemy will be found inside.
      1. Aibolit
        +2
        3 February 2012 14: 30
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        But the Kremlin is profitable to look for the enemy outside, otherwise the enemy will be found inside.

        Theater, or rather an attack of hysteria of one bot! laughing
        1. +3
          3 February 2012 14: 40
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          Yeah, envy such a small country like Georgia ...


          What is there to envy? A defeated army, which you need to restore for your money (or with money, which you will then have to work out)? developed industry? developed agriculture?

          DO NOT MAKE ME LAUGH!!!

          Yes, in Russia, not everything is smooth, yes. But even though the president was not removed from the Christmas tree yesterday, he knows how to use a handkerchief and does not confuse his tie with a hamburger ...
          1. alexander hjcnjd
            0
            3 February 2012 15: 08
            True education with demography ditched, but otherwise nothing.
            1. Chukotka resident
              -3
              3 February 2012 15: 23
              Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
              True education with demography ditched, but otherwise nothing.

              On a ball, based on an oil and gas ball ...
            2. Aibolit
              +1
              3 February 2012 17: 23
              Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
              davda ruined education with demography, but nothing else.

              Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
              On a ball, based on an oil and gas ball ...

              You don’t get bored talking to yourself laughing
              You have an exacerbation caused by abnormal frosts wassat
              1. Chukotka resident
                -2
                3 February 2012 21: 36
                Quote: Aibolit
                You have an exacerbation caused by abnormal frosts

                There are only from Siberia - traditional scumbags
                1. Aibolit
                  0
                  3 February 2012 21: 37
                  Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                  There are only from Siberia - traditional scumbags

                  There frost you scumbag wink
            3. 0
              4 February 2012 21: 30
              It is, yes. Nothing, we will form and improve ourselves. For me personally, the prez is not an assistant in these matters, he coped with himself in life.
          2. Chukotka resident
            -3
            3 February 2012 15: 22
            Quote: Banshee
            What is there to envy? Broken army

            Restore and build up.
            Quote: Banshee
            developed industry? developed agriculture?

            Well, in the meantime, do not climb into Aziopa ... lol
            Quote: Banshee
            Yes, not everything is smooth in Russia, yes. But at least the president was removed from the Christmas tree yesterday.

            The troubles are in me, given that he was brought before Sobchak, and Sobchak was killed. And for the presidency, he blew up houses in Budenovsk ...
            Wow perspective ...... No.
            1. 0
              3 February 2012 19: 10
              For the gifted, they didn’t blow up the houses in Budennovsk. There, Basayev captured the hospital, but that was long before Putin.
              1. 0
                4 February 2012 21: 34
                Yes, what does it matter to him?
            2. 0
              4 February 2012 21: 34
              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Restore and build up.


              Nyahay ... Three years? Five years? Ten? Then again, hitting on the Russians and again will be restored and increased. Do not overdo it just let build up ...

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Well, in the meantime, do not climb into Aziopa ...


              So they will not be allowed there.

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              Troubles in me, given that he was brought to Sobchak, and Sobchak was killed.


              Troubles understand from the heart. At the very something there is moving. It’s a pity that, in addition to Sobchak, Ksyusha Sobchak was not thrown there. Tears is a pity ...

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              And for the presidential term - he blew up houses in Budenovsk ...


              Give out wishful thinking, however.
      2. Aibolit
        +4
        3 February 2012 14: 40
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        But the Kremlin is profitable to look for the enemy outside, otherwise the enemy will be found inside.

        Why are you already here? laughing
        1. Chukotka resident
          -3
          3 February 2012 20: 10
          Quote: Aibolit
          Why are you already here?

          Yes, for example, with the growth of frost and gas consumption in Russia - 415 million cubic meters per day enter Ukraine, and it should be 490 if contracts are signed with everyone. But at the same time, the Horde Russia is trying to accuse Ukraine of allegedly "taking away" excess gas - trying to hide the fact that there are no gas capacities in Rasseya ....... Soon the Russians will be fired with cheap Kuzbak coal, and gas will only be exported .. ...
          1. 0
            5 February 2012 02: 19
            Well, while you are a pig, you will behave badly, you will freeze. Although, no, your dead leader Bandera will warm you. Glory to Bohdan Stashinsky, who flunked this monkey.
  5. 0
    3 February 2012 09: 21
    I didn’t like the map: there Sakhalin is only half ours.
    1. Desert Fox
      0
      3 February 2012 10: 06
      and you didn’t notice the smokers that you painted the girlfriend? wink
      1. Chukotka resident
        -4
        3 February 2012 14: 26
        Quote: Desert Fox
        and you didn’t notice the smokers that you painted the girlfriend?

        This too shall pass.
    2. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 14: 26
      Quote: xorgi
      I didn’t like the map: there Sakhalin is only half ours.

      Although the entire territory of the Japanese.
      1. +4
        3 February 2012 14: 42
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Although the entire territory of the Japanese.


        GYYY !!! Do not you go to the doctor? Obviously delirious already delirious ... This is a dangerous syndrome, it's time, my friend, it's time ... And then so soon you have people from the NKVD in the yard will begin to roam ...
        1. Chukotka resident
          -4
          3 February 2012 15: 24
          Quote: Banshee
          GYY !!! Isn’t it time for you to see a doctor?

          You have here "doctor-Aibolit" - your bright one.
          Quote: Banshee
          And then so soon you people from the NKVD in the yard will start to roam ...

          Lead stocked up ...
          1. Aibolit
            0
            3 February 2012 16: 26
            Quote: Resident of Chukotka
            You have here "doctor-Aibolit" - your bright one.

            Yes i remember you wink
          2. 0
            5 February 2012 02: 22
            "Stocked up with lead .." - Yeah, one cartridge for yourself.
        2. Aibolit
          +1
          3 February 2012 16: 29
          Quote: Banshee
          GYYY !!! Do not you go to the doctor? Obviously delirious already delirious ... This is a dangerous syndrome, it's time, my friend, it's time ... And then so soon you have people from the NKVD in the yard will begin to roam ...

          Yes, this is my client! laughing
          Runaway from one bot to another!
      2. Aibolit
        +1
        3 February 2012 16: 31
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Although the entire territory of the Japanese.

        All your head can only be your illness miserable! wink
        1. +2
          4 February 2012 21: 42
          GOOD DOCTOR AIBOLIT,
          He sits under a tree
          UNDER HAND KALASH LIES,
          ALL SMILES OZLEPIT ...

          Come to him to be treated
          TOT, TO WHOM BANDER REMOVES
          AND BALT- "LESOVICHOK"
          AND PINDOS the reputable

          ... ALL OTP% ZDIT (HEALTH)
          RUSSIAN DOCTOR AIBOLIT!
  6. predator
    0
    3 February 2012 09: 30
    yes a really beautiful card! a similar duck was once launched by Napoleon ("The Testament of Peter the Great") to justify his invasion of Russia. Although each power in those days repainted the map, that is, it had its own far-reaching plans. It is a pity that the February and October revolutions canceled these plans, if Russia had not withdrawn from the First World War, then the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles should have gone to it.
    1. +1
      3 February 2012 09: 45
      This duck was launched before Napoleon. It seems that the Prussian king Frederick the Great convinced his English sponsors that he was protecting Europe from Russian barbarians.
  7. +1
    3 February 2012 09: 33
    the systematic slander of Russians and Russia is vital for the Catholic Church and its derivatives in the form of various sects and movements of religions privatized by Jews - after all, it is no secret that the leaders of Catholics were mostly Jewish crosses, even the great inquisitor Torquemada was a Jewish cross in order to seize power and management of peoples. And the territories occupied by the Russians are tidbits that they have long dreamed of swallowing. Pop culture has a clear ideological justification for blurring the images of the homeland of honor of conscience, compassion is the result of the emergence of all kinds of avant-garde and neo-avagardist movements in art and literature. The elevation to the rank of higher values ​​is immoral and unnatural to common sense actions where lies, slander, money-grubbing and violence are introduced into the rank of natural human behavior. I don’t know if censorship was harmful, but I think that in the mass replication of such pearls, art in the country should be banned dstva media and the implementation should be under strict control
  8. +12
    3 February 2012 09: 39
    I read komenty .. Hm ... Do you really believe that everything will return? Do we need such a return? You know, I actually shot a little in this life, and my son had to ... Somehow it happened that even after the Second World War my men the families were always somewhere ... Rulers are to blame ... You tell the pilots shot down by Ukrainian lads in the Georgian sky, the mothers of the ex-brothers who were killed by mercenaries in Chechnya, and tell the mothers of the peaceful people killed by Georgians about the peacefulness of the Georgian people ... I always adhered and will adhere to the principle of men Mr. of my family is a traitor, even if he betrayed in our favor, he is always a traitor and will betray necessarily both for the second and third time ... Now only an economic link, make you squeak like Pindos do ... or Anglo-Saxons ... Do you want to feed out of my hand, forget not only about bites, but also about a growl ...
    1. -1
      3 February 2012 09: 56
      Quote: domokl
      domokl

      Domocles, bravo, buddy! good
    2. Chukotka resident
      -3
      3 February 2012 14: 28
      Quote: domokl
      I read the comments .. Hmm ... Do you really believe that everything will return?

      Mentally, many tend to - stupidly believe and stupidly wait for a miracle from the king.
      1. Aibolit
        0
        3 February 2012 18: 15
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Mentally, many tend to - stupidly believe and stupidly wait for a miracle from the king.

        yeah Obama for example wink
        1. Chukotka resident
          -2
          4 February 2012 10: 49
          Quote: Aibolit
          yeah Obama for example

          And only the fool stubbornly continued to pretend that he understood nothing .... smile
  9. +3
    3 February 2012 09: 49
    ... Unlike Russia, the American states in a civilized way acquired only Alaska by purchasing it from the Russian Empire .... alas, everything else, alas ..... either stolen from the native inhabitants of the American continent, or captured from Mexico ....
    Not having, unlike the European powers, their own colonies (because the state as such either did not exist at the time of the division, or it was still insolvent), the Americans, with the growth of the power of the state, actively began to impose their paws on the "alien" ... having expelled the Spaniards from Cuba, Philippines, etc. Gradually, Panama, the Caribbean, South American dictatorships, other countries of the Middle East, Southeast Asia, .......
    The thirst for "freebies" to have unlimited access to natural resources of the whole world makes the United States come up with new "enemies" of democracy and freedom ..... Well, greedy Russians have always been a trump card in the deck of these scoundrels ...
    What can you do ..... history will punish them .......
    1. +4
      3 February 2012 10: 25
      I support. What are these bastards, slaughtered the indigenous population, all who remained alive were driven out on reserves, and now they are trying to bring democracy to the world ... The struggle for human rights ... Aggressors !!!
      1. +3
        3 February 2012 14: 45
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        The US states acquired Alaska in a civilized way only by purchasing it from the Russian Empire ....


        How would they take away? This is not to kill Indians infected with smallpox blankets, there would have to fight ...
    2. 0
      3 February 2012 19: 18
      While Alaska was Russian, the local aborigines lived like Christ’s bosom, and when America bought it, the indigenous people were waiting for the same fate as the reservation Indians.
  10. Vrangel
    +2
    3 February 2012 10: 48
    One must be afraid of what has already been very rightly dubbed the "Latin Americanization" of Russia. The United States has no enemies in the Western Hemisphere, not because the "Latinos" are so stupid, they are fascist tales. It's just that their "elite" - political, military, economic and cultural - is very cunningly manipulated with the aim of creating hopeless poverty, corruption, debts, etc. throughout Lat. America. When instability in one of the states comes to actions that threaten the United States - to drug trafficking at the state level, for example, then a small intervention can be arranged. This is how they have been living for many, many years, with short interruptions. This is the kind of "Latin Americanization" carried out in Russia. In the same way, they corrupt our elite and the entire people as a whole, just as they prevent the unification of fraternal peoples into a single state, which will obviously be stronger and more dangerous for the United States than a handful of small
  11. Gur
    +8
    3 February 2012 11: 16
    Well, our home-grown historians also put their hands on this "image of the enemy" or "orc". With frantic power, rewriting and erasing the entire history of the country. And if earlier for such an act, the smallest would be hospital treatment with many great Napoleons, and so on. The current government pretends that nothing is happening. In schools, history textbooks even differ from each other in content .. of the same class. Why are there textbooks .. take a children's encyclopedia, find about astronautics, there are no our "Unions" "Salutes" "Progress" only "Shuttles" and the landing of amers to the moon. And to take programs on television .. where they are promoting .. all sorts of Svanidze and others. Where saliva is at the mouth, he shouts that all his activities are aimed only at the fact that his children know the truth. So I would read them at home using the example of a children's film .. where Dzhigarkhanyan .. lectured to his children about the greatness of their surname (We Kustodievs gave advice to Peter, etc.) And here the authorities are silent. When I was a kid .. in Soviet times I watched a program about films from the USA, Rocky and Rimbaud, excerpts where "they" painted the image of the enemy, it made a great impression on me, and then hatred for them. Now these films are shown (and others) on the central channel, and our children no longer shock them, they are used to it. Although our television has already lost its bar and fear. Well, this is a separate topic. Further, over the past 20 years, our heroes have changed color, from red to white, and unambiguously, and the authorities are introducing holidays of universal reconciliation and rest. Although most people have more to do with red than with white. Well, judging by some posts, so almost every native of a noble family or his ancestors were merchants or fists. (where did the multimillion-dollar impoverished Russia go) In another post, I already wrote that I got to the point where in the program "Serving the Fatherland" they show a program about the remnants of whites in Hungary who fought on the side of the Nazis in WWII. In their uniforms with awards and all that .. the transmission ends with the words .. "They did not betray their ideals and their Russia" Jolly, what then to talk about the West, we ourselves curse the Bandera, Estonians, etc. .. and our just "did not betray their ideals." And this is in a country where almost every family has those who died in that war. And this will continue and grow .. unless the state, government, people finally accept a different concept of attitude to history. Showing, telling and making you respect and teach her.
    1. -1
      3 February 2012 22: 10
      I agree 100%. By the way, can someone tell me how many "nobility" were in the "Brandenbug-800"?
  12. 0
    3 February 2012 11: 25
    domokl,
    fully agree
  13. BAT
    +1
    3 February 2012 11: 49
    We, well, if not us, so our descendants need to create a powerful, strong and powerful EMPIRE !!! Such that everyone would be afraid. They will be afraid, will be respected. And you don’t give a damn about all the demagogy there. As soon as we weakened, we didn’t give a damn about what we were doing, we apologize to our heads and started to work. And everyone is happy, everyone is laughing. It is time to end with this disgrace It is necessary that Russian ugroea was not a myth, but a reality, a nightmare of every Pindos.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -6
      3 February 2012 14: 30
      Quote: sichevik
      We, well, if not us, so our descendants need to create a powerful, strong and powerful EMPIRE !!!

      The balls.
      Quote: sichevik
      And you don’t give a damn about all the demagogy there. As soon as we weakened, we didn’t give a damn about what we were doing, we apologize to our heads and started to work. And everyone is happy, everyone is laughing. It is time to end with this disgrace It is necessary that Russian ugroea was not a myth, but a reality, a nightmare of every Pindos.

      For this, and 170 million Chinese are not sorry for the Americans - for China to the Urals ...
      1. +2
        3 February 2012 14: 48
        Very interesting, but what are you sitting on? I, too, would not refuse to be so blessed at the weekend ...

        Well, if only you are in the hospital for the relevant contingent, then do not worry. And if organic - share the recipe, eh?
        1. Chukotka resident
          -4
          3 February 2012 15: 26
          Quote: Banshee
          Very interesting, but what are you sitting on? I, too, would not refuse to be so blessed at the weekend ...

          What a horror ... So - this one has occupied the niche of a drug addict.
          Quote: Banshee
          And if organic - share the recipe, huh?

          crying
        2. Aibolit
          +1
          3 February 2012 17: 26
          Quote: Banshee
          Very interesting, but what are you sitting on? I, too, would not refuse to be so blessed at the weekend ...

          Well, if only you are in the hospital for the relevant contingent, then do not worry. And if organic - share the recipe, eh?

          This patient is hopeless, he requires urgent forced hospitalization, all his comments shout and this is a hidden form of a call for help at the patient’s subconscious level wink
        3. -1
          3 February 2012 20: 51
          Organics - a lesion in the brain ... he has
          and he sits on a crocodile ...
          maybe of course on d-lysergic acid diethylamide
          got drunk ergot .. here he gets cockroaches and crawl in his head ..
          1. -1
            3 February 2012 21: 11
            What garbage ...
            Aibolit and Banshee Stacked ......
            Not guys, sort it out yourself, my comment was on Comrade Tank, Banderlos, Tovaritsch-s-Sever.
            This one, obviously blundered by something ... what are you sharing?
            1. 0
              4 February 2012 21: 57
              Not at all ... what should we share?
              You just misunderstood something, we have a full freynshaft and mutual understanding with the doctor. I even drank the Virsch about him ...
              So, try to share experiences. wink

              Quote: Resident of Chukotka
              So - this one occupied a niche addict.


              No no no!!! I do not nate someone else, this niche is yours. and I do not claim it! I envy slightly, yes. But not more.
  14. logic
    +2
    3 February 2012 12: 06
    You can’t beat off endlessly without answering, your forces will simply end. Russia will stop biting only when it hurts to do. Imperial ambitions have nothing to do with it, it's just a matter of survival
    1. Chukotka resident
      -6
      3 February 2012 14: 32
      Quote: logik
      Russia will stop biting only when it hurts to do.

      Judging by a lot ...
      Quote: logik
      nothing to do with ambition, it's just a matter of survival

      The Russian model is utopian and there is no doubt about it.
      1. Aibolit
        0
        3 February 2012 17: 29
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Judging by a lot ...

        Yes, not much to see soon sting dull wink
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        The Russian model is utopian and there is no doubt about it.

        This statement is not original; it is delusional.
  15. PARROT
    -6
    3 February 2012 13: 16
    A half truth is worse than a lie. It is not generally said that Russia is a word coined by the Konstantinopolsky Patriarchate. In the 14th century, in order to distinguish between the territories of old Rus and Muscovy, he defined Lesser Russia and greater Russia. The official heir of Kievan Rus is the Galician-Volyn principality. The territories of the north-eastern Slavic tribes were called Muscovy, but the territories of most of modern Ukraine Rus. It might be historically justifiable to call Ukraine Rus now, and Russia Muscovy (and what is happening in your country confirms the name is ... indent), but historically it happened that Russia began to be called Ukraine and it really doesn’t matter , it is important that we are not part of you, but the Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians are Eastern Slavs. We, as you are the heirs of the Slavs. This is a historical indent from Wikipedia. Chekhov was invented, Belarusians were invented in Vienna - what kind of territory are we, different territories, different cultures, which simply have a lot in common. It pisses me off that this article is written in the style of "What are we good", and the rest are ungrateful at what different times are compared (relations with Georgia in the 16th century and modern relations under the presidency of Saakashvili). Well, your country provoked the 2008 conflict in order to strengthen the position on Ossetia, it is clear that your country is trying to take Ossetia into its own hands even by choice in Ossetia, political chaos when Dzhioeva beat 16.7% in the second round of the pro-Russian candidate and the elections were invalidated. Well, why does Georgia need a very important trade relationship with Russia to start a deliberately losing conflict? I know the point of view of the Kremlin, thanks. Now look at Georgia now, find out statistics about corruption in the country and economic growth, and in general everything that has happened under Saakashvili, who is portrayed as critique by your MASS-Media. What about the modern relations of Ukraine and Russia. Well, first, thank you friends for gas for 500 $, for how much you sell it to Germany, for 300 $ or how much? Sorry, that we do not sell you our gas pipeline system, even though you are our brothers. You complain about our cheeses, even with those who do not export their products anywhere. Now the government is initially a pro-Russian party, which promised us that it would agree on gas with Russia, but why does Russia cooperate with us neither as a brother, but as an economic partner, and with Germany, probably, as a brother more? or maybe with Germany as a partner, but with us then how? Who is to blame for the price? Nationalist Yushchenko? Nationalist Yanukovych? Azarov, who cannot connect 2 Ukrainian words correctly? Putin’s words about what the WWII could have ended in victory without Ukraine, and in general all sorts of arrogant stories about Tymoshenko of your media, well, you can still remember the arrogant story about Lukashenko, but then for some reason, when Lukashenko gave his gas pipeline systems, he became normal and Belarus has become a fraternal people, you have made Belarus do it. And your insolent recognition by President Yanukovych in 2004, during a preliminary survey of people? We've had such falsifications that people came out to the square, it was organized, but people came out under the slogan "Prison bandits", because they were tired of enduring power and lawlessness and our normal people do not consider the rallies in Kiev in 2004 a disappointment , we fought against the bandits and won, the fact that the total and arrogant falsifications did not help Yanukovych, but what about the falsifications? It may not have gotten better in the end, but the victory was concrete and crucial for the faith of people in justice who have not yet departed from communism, now Yanukovych's rating is low even in the eastern regions. As for the Bandera and "Western nationalists", their attitude against communism can be easily understood by finding out how many people were killed there during the Red Terror if you read eyewitness accounts and historical facts, it just could not be such hatred, they hate communism and everything that it is connected, like most of modern Ukrainians, but much was done during the Soviet era, there are + and -, but for some, when they kill a relative, a father, a mother, industrialization is not important, but the facts when they were killed for nothing, even in modern grew up. there is a lot of cinema, in western Ukraine it was the same. Now in Lviv, Russians are normally treated as Russians and they are not called Russians the commune of red or something else.
    1. +5
      3 February 2012 13: 37
      Did Russia provoke a conflict in 2008 in Ossetia? Did I understand you correctly?! Maybe I heard wrong ?! My friend, where were you then ?! Yesterday fell from the sky ?! Amer instructors came to Georgia, weapons were massively delivered ... One fine day, Georgian armed forces invade Ossetia, carrying Amer democracy, with the pretext of supposedly returning their territory ?! My friend, they also want independence, just as you did when the USSR collapsed ... Everything would end with the massacre perpetrated by the Georgian military. Naturally, it is unprofitable for Russia to aggravate the situation in the Caucasus, especially in the independent republic that we have recognized. And with whom did you fight there ... With peacekeepers! ... PARROT: Well, why should Georgia, which has simply very important trade relations with Russia, start a deliberately losing conflict? And for the fact that you brewed this porridge, by order from washington!!! am
      1. PARROT
        -2
        3 February 2012 14: 37
        As for the invasion of Ossetia, this is not "one fine day" there has been a conflict for a long time, first a terrorist attack against Georgian police officers, then the shelling of Tskhinvali by Georgians, then Ossetia's response, then a peace proposal from Georgia on August 7 - in response to shelling Georgian villages, then only Georgian troops in Tskhinvali due to shelling of their territory. But in any case, I withdraw my words about the perpetrators of this war, because there are doubts.
        1. +1
          3 February 2012 19: 37
          Did Russia, on the night of August 8, begin shelling the peaceful, sleeping Tskhinvali with Grads? Did Russia attack its peacekeepers?
      2. Chukotka resident
        -8
        3 February 2012 14: 40
        Quote: trojan768
        Did Russia provoke a conflict in 2008 in Ossetia? Did I understand you correctly?!

        And there is. And whoever has forgotten is the territory of Georgia within recognized borders by the world.
        Quote: trojan768
        One fine day, the Georgian armed forces invade Ossetia, carrying Amer’s democracy, with the pretext of supposedly returning their territory ?!

        Funny.
        Quote: trojan768
        Everything would end with the massacre perpetrated by the Georgian military.

        Lies, refugees somehow fled to Georgia ...
        Quote: trojan768
        It is not beneficial for Russia to aggravate the situation in the Caucasus, especially in an independent republic that we have recognized.

        More Nauru and other honduras.
        Quote: trojan768
        Georgia, which, well, just has very important trade relations with Russia to start a deliberately losing conflict?

        So it was the same Russian tanks at the Roki Tunnel that suddenly appeared, although they got there - two days of the march. But the Russian occupation landing by Grads of Georgia defending ironed ...
        Quote: trojan768
        And for the fact that you brewed this porridge, by order from Washington !!!

        Yeah, without UN decisions (we are looking at Syria now), without deciding the advice and thoughts of Russia - the Kremlin dwarfs have violated Russian law and international law on occupation. And this is a tribunal.
      3. Odesit
        0
        4 February 2012 01: 18
        Trojan 768
        Dear do not waste your precious time on "dummies".
        They are without strong.
        1. +1
          6 February 2012 11: 18
          Thank you merchants! But I was simply enraged by the distortion of historical facts, I could not resist.
    2. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 14: 33
      Quote: PARROT
      As for the Bandera and "Western nationalists", their attitude against communism can be easily understood by finding out how many people were killed there during the Red Terror if you read eyewitness accounts and historical facts, it just couldn't be that hate, they hate communism and everything he is connected, like most of modern Ukrainians, but much was done during the Soviet era, there are + and -, but for some, when they kill a relative, a father, a mother, industrialization is not important, but the facts when they were killed for nothing, even in modern grew up. There is a lot of cinema, in western Ukraine it was the same. Now in Lviv, Russians are normally treated and they do not call Russians a red commune or something else. The truth is learned in details.

      It’s like trying to make sure that in the 39th they met with flowers, and in the 41st they fought against the whole people ...
      1. +2
        3 February 2012 14: 50
        It's simple: they met flowers with flowers, but others fought. That's just about all the people do not, okay?
        If all the people-who would now inhabit Ukraine?
        1. Chukotka resident
          -5
          3 February 2012 15: 26
          Quote: Banshee
          That's just about the whole nation is not necessary, okay?

          All-all.
          1. 0
            4 February 2012 22: 02
            And I say. that not all ... Two brothers of my grandmother (the surname Kalashnik, if anything, from Lviv) were greeted with flowers, and at 41 they went to the front (and not on the side you dearly love, but in the Red Army), and one died in 1943, and the second went through the whole war. So everything minus two is no longer "all-all" ...
      2. 0
        3 February 2012 22: 29
        13565 cars,
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        It’s like trying to make sure that in the 39th they met with flowers, and in the 41st they fought against the whole people ...

        Well, of course, the names of Kovpak, Kopenkin, Saburov, Fedorov, Malyukov, you, Mr. Tank do not say anything. Let the numbers say: 464682 Nazi occupiers and their accomplices were destroyed by Soviet Ukrainian partisans in the years, this was done by Ukrainians ( not Bendera).
    3. +5
      3 February 2012 15: 13
      Quote: PARROT
      A half truth is worse than a lie.


      I agree with you!

      Quote: PARROT
      Russia is a word invented by the Constantinople Patriarchate. In the 14 century, in order to distinguish the territories of old Russia and Muscovy, he defined Little Russia and large Russia.


      This is forgive, what the hell is this, and why should we rely on its definitions? Okay, yuh with him, he defined for himself this way, and we for ourselves - differently. And why should it be otherwise?

      Quote: PARROT
      This is a historical indent from wikipedia


      Yes, in the ass Wikipedia ... found what to refer to ...

      Quote: PARROT
      Well, why does Georgia need a very important trade relationship with Russia to start a deliberately losing conflict?


      As an option - in American ties dyes contain a hallucinogen. Some people (we will not point fingers into a macaque-saak), having gotten drunk on their neckties, got stuck and decided to make war. Another explanation has not yet been invented.

      Quote: PARROT
      Well, first, thank you friends for gas for 500 $, for how much you sell it to Germany, for 300 $ or how much?


      Hmm ... you know, but most of them do not sell gas here ... Overwhelming, by the way. So it is not for us.

      Quote: PARROT
      Sorry, that we do not sell you our gas pipeline system, even though you are our brothers.


      I apologize with the ease of many! We do not need it! And sell or not - in general the third case, and then, it's your cow, you and decide whether to sell or not.

      Quote: PARROT
      You complain about our cheeses, even with those who do not export their products anywhere.


      No offense - Belarusian is better! Here are the "Crown" chocolates - yes ... hohloshedevr ...

      Quote: PARROT
      Putin’s words about the fact that the Great Patriotic War could have ended in victory without Ukraine,


      Well, damn, blurt out ... because I did not hear, honestly, I believe, but I will believe without reservation ... Putin also has chances. What can be said about this ... Yes, only one thing: it could, but it did not end. And it ended with a victory with a significant share of the participation of the Ukrainian soldier and worker, a peasant woman and a worker in a factory. And you spit on an idiot who has a different point of view.

      Quote: PARROT
      we fought against the bandits and won, the fact that total and impudent falsifications did not help Yanukovych, but how is your way there with falsifications?


      Yes, full order! Until now, orem about past elections!

      Quote: PARROT
      Truth is learned in detail.


      I agree.

      You know, dear, the arguments you have cited are largely true, but here, for some reason, the pipelayers and oligarchs are not hanging out. Do not equate us with them, right. As well as I have repeatedly urged not to confuse Ukrainians and all Bandera fans and the like. if there is a place to be a scumbag - this does not mean that all of Russia (or Ukraine) is as follows. If the government (that you have, that we have) is not very adequate person, you should not dirty all the dirt. Yes, we (and you) chose them, honestly (or not), this is ours and yours. But this is not a reason for hatred between us.
      1. PARROT
        +1
        3 February 2012 15: 39
        Fair - I agree with many. I am for honest mutually beneficial relations between our countries. Our politicians pit us. There is Russia, there is Ukraine and there is Belarus it is necessary to live honestly, without political intrigue, it’s just that history doesn’t allow it to be done, but we should try to think more and build a new history about the future, and not say that Ukraine was invented in Vienna, this is stupid, just as as in antiquity, why didn’t Belarusians come up with, Czechs weren’t invented, and Ukrainians were suddenly invented? (That’s what caught me).
        1. Chukotka resident
          -5
          3 February 2012 16: 07
          Quote: PARROT
          There is Russia, there is Ukraine and there is Belarus it is necessary to live honestly, without political intrigue, it’s just that history doesn’t allow it to be done, but we should try to think more and build a new history about the future, and not say that Ukraine was invented in Vienna, this is stupid, just as as in antiquity, why didn’t Belarusians come up with, Czechs weren’t invented, and Ukrainians were suddenly invented? (That’s what caught me).

          Bravo!!! This is their tear quotes from Bismarck ...
        2. recitatorus
          0
          3 February 2012 16: 44
          I understand that I’m selling you gas for 500 bucks and I’m fattening, but for the Germans 300, and I also dream of grabbing your pipe for nothing !!! Have you even seen it, this pipe ?! fool And on Wikipedia's account - Wikipedia - it is for !!! For every second request you get either a complete heresy, or an offer to write an article. There is not enough altruism for an article ... drinks
    4. +3
      3 February 2012 15: 54
      Quote: PARROT
      Well, first, thank you friends for gas for 500 $, for how much you sell it to Germany, for 300 $ or how much?

      The Germans pushed the northern stream into the EU, and we have a lot of joint projects in industry with the technologies we need, and how could this be the main EU country through which many questions can be resolved. And your government is only blackmailing and stealing gas, and is constantly striving to twist its hands on all issues. Are we building pipelines from the flank of the bay? And it's not cheap by the way
      Quote: PARROT
      Your country provoked the 2008 conflict in order to strengthen the position on Ossetia

      for the troll, you kind of threw a lot of letters, and this is the statement of the troll
      Quote: PARROT
      you Belarus made it do

      Belarus needed money, so it sold us pipes, do we have to give out money just like that?
      Quote: PARROT
      Putin’s words about what WW could end in victory without Ukraine

      I have not heard, it seems like nonsense for your internal use
      1. PARROT
        +1
        3 February 2012 16: 12
        About Putin and in response to our "bullshit"
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSU79ofn5w[right]
        Yes, you correctly explained everything about Germany and Belarus, but now tell someone else the price of $ 500 ?. This is all the geopolitical strategy of Russia in our region, to make politics at the expense of gas, when we had Yushchenko, he was just an excuse to start raising the price of gas. It became clear when the pro-Russian forces in Ukraine could not agree on the price of gas. . This, of course, is our problem to a greater extent, but there is no need to write here which Russia is good and fair, it is the same as the USA, the USA just has more opportunities.
        As for Georgia, there was a reason, Georgia wanted to join NATO and has almost joined, only suddenly a skirmish with Ossetia and the conflict began. Oh and Russia accidentally showed that excuse NATO, but Russia would not allow it. Russia had to show NATO, there was an occasion, but you know how to hide it.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%F2%ED%EE%F8%E5%ED%E8%FF_%C3%F0%F3%E7%E8%E8_%E8_
        % CD% C0% D2% CE
        1. -1
          3 February 2012 17: 03
          Quote: PARROT
          As for Georgia, there was a reason, Georgia wanted to join NATO and has almost joined, but just then a skirmish with Ossetia and the conflict began

          Well, this is a discussion for 500 years and no one will prove anything to anyone, Saakashvili then shot first, so we protected the citizens and our neighbors from death, this is the bottom line.
          And the policy on gas, well, maybe a little, but your policy of twisting your arms is the same, here you need to fix it on both sides, and you want us to take a step and you will think about it later.
          1. ab
            ab
            -4
            3 February 2012 17: 10
            Quote: Kyrgyz
            Saakashvili then shot first

            God forbid, I don’t draw analogies, but the reason for the German attack on Poland was the same type --- They shot first.
            1. Aibolit
              0
              3 February 2012 17: 30
              Quote: ab
              I God forbid I do not draw analogies, but the reason for the German attack on Poland

              They shot first. wink
              1. +4
                3 February 2012 17: 51
                Parrot ..... ask a question ..
                I quote .... "... We, like you, are the heirs of the Slavs. ..."
                Are we Ukrainians?
                And the fact that Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians are a single people - is that nothing? Only artificially divided.
                Or, Ukrainians are Arians, and Russians are Turans? And then who are the Belarusians - the Vikings?
                Different people, different cultures - WHAT and WHEN did you learn from history?
                It just interests me a lot.
                And why - I, for example, know that Sagaidachny is "the greatest sea genius of Ukraine" (he invented the theory and practice of the battle of linear fleets), and you, non-deluxe ones, do not know anything about Ushakov. A descendant of the Tatars, a Russian naval commander, whom the Adriatic still remembers - RUSSIAN, amazing, right?
                1. PARROT
                  -3
                  3 February 2012 18: 07
                  But nothing that the Slavs are both southern and eastern and western? Those countries that you listed are eastern, so whom to consider as a single people? Certainly a different culture, a lot of common, but different and different languages, but come from a common. And why did you decide that we are independent (I don’t understand who exactly do you mean? If our education system, then I agree, but yours is not ideal) do not know about Ushakov? There is simply an opinion that Ukraine should be part of Russia in the center in Moscow, as it was under the USSR, but is there any historical justice in this? Ukraine, Russia, Belarus - 3 separate countries now with a common history, but this story was once common to both Western and Southern Slavs, but now only separate countries remain, so why Poland or the Czech Republic is not part of Russia, but Ukraine part? We have a self-sufficient country, our own language, our own culture, our own, newest, history. You say that we don’t know Ushakov, but do you know Ukrainian? No, but most Ukrainians know.
                  1. Aibolit
                    +2
                    3 February 2012 18: 19
                    Quote: PARROT
                    But nothing that

                    Hello Jura hello bot !!
                    Full name: Jura
                    Group: Visitors
                    Date of visit: February 3 2012 18: 07
                    Registration Date: February 3 2012 11: 29
                    How many of you are like cockroaches in the head of a Chukotka resident laughing
                    1. PARROT
                      -1
                      3 February 2012 18: 27
                      Do you know what a bot is? - Judging by everything, no, but what do you bring below I don’t understand what does it mean to your conclusion? What does it prove? I’m not the person who uses the nickname Resident of Chukotka, I assure you, least of all I want to prove something to someone while behaving like a clown, I have been visiting this site for 2 weeks now, but I decided to register to comment and my goal here all the same to understand the truth. So, I'm sorry, but your intrigue is empty.
                      1. +3
                        3 February 2012 20: 03
                        The truth is that we, both Russians and Ukrainians and Belarusians, are one people artificially divided. Between us for a long time and hard drive a wedge to break the historical and blood ties, according to the principle of divide and rule. Panas are fighting, and at lackeys forelocks are cracking. But in reality we have nothing to share. We have one glorious, centuries-old history, one for all. And you can’t divide it into yours and mine.
                      2. Chukotka resident
                        -4
                        3 February 2012 20: 35
                        Quote: Lyokha79
                        The truth is that we, both Russians and Ukrainians and Belarusians, are one people artificially divided.

                        gray mare.
                        Quote: Lyokha79
                        But in reality we have nothing to share.

                        Yes. we simply have nothing in common.
                        Quote: Lyokha79
                        We have one glorious, centuries-old history, one for all.

                        except that the occupation history.
                        Quote: Lyokha79
                        And you can’t divide it into yours and mine.

                        but no, only yours.
                      3. 0
                        4 February 2012 22: 06
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        we just have nothing in common.


                        Well, you do not have it, you should not sign for the whole people. You have no authority.

                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        except that the occupation history.


                        It is just you and yours. Sit and sob through life, as you poor occupy. How mocked at you, humiliated, trampled and stuff. Memuary scribbling. Just remember that if you used to give a dollar per kilogram, now for a ton. Other times. It's easier to go to the embassy of one great power and suck it off at the gatekeeper. Less work, as much money.
                      4. Odesit
                        0
                        4 February 2012 03: 53
                        LEKHA 79.
                        Dear Alex! Do not go into the market with this scum! I beg you! This is below YOUR DIGNITY OFFICER!
                        They rats will die.
                        WITH RESPECT.
                      5. Chukotka resident
                        -3
                        3 February 2012 20: 33
                        Quote: PARROT
                        Do you know what a bot is? - judging by everything, no, but what you brought below I don’t understand what does it mean to your conclusion?

                        He is a schizaphrenic, before that he was a "doctor" - yesterday he swore at 100 posts on half a site and was banned. Now he scoffs at the animals, they, unlike people, do not give problems. He's a weakling. angry
                    2. Chukotka resident
                      -3
                      3 February 2012 20: 31
                      Quote: Aibolit
                      Hello Jura hello bot !!
                      Full name: Jura
                      Group: Visitors
                      Date of visit: February 3 2012 18: 07
                      Registration Date: February 3 2012 11: 29
                      How many of you are like cockroaches in the head of a Chukotka resident


                      “You're an epic, traditional resident of an agonizing horde.”
                      1. 0
                        4 February 2012 22: 08
                        This agonizing horde is easily digested and not so ...
                  2. +1
                    3 February 2012 18: 28
                    So I'm talking about ... the present ..
                    I don’t want to bring a parable about a broom .. every nation has it ..
                    Belarusians-Russian-Ukrainians ..... these are just names - there are only one people.
                    It is only from this that we must proceed.
                    Politicians - dohren and more, enormous numbers around. And we will be measured ..
                    The talk of the Belgorod region cuts the ear of the Altai people, you won’t confuse the Arkhangelogorods with the Novosibirsk people — and in Russia there are more ethnic differences than between Ukrainian-Russian. And the people are one.
                    That's it, just - and it starts with education, right.
                    Now, using a weld, suppose they finish Russia. And the process will go further - they will explain at a pace that Ukraine is too heterogeneous (Galicia, Podolia, Crimea, East), therefore, it needs a disaggregation ... well, etc.
                    To this I lead - we will not be united - die separately.
                  3. Tyumen
                    +1
                    3 February 2012 18: 47
                    Quote: PARROT
                    own language


                    Chi gepnuyu I'm a dry-assed man,
                    Chi past prospondorite wines?

                    Pushkin? belay
                    1. Chukotka resident
                      -3
                      3 February 2012 20: 36
                      Quote: Tyumen 35
                      Pushkin?

                      Pushkin is a Negro-Ethiopian, in your opinion, too - an original Russian.
                      1. 0
                        3 February 2012 21: 02
                        Oh, YOU, comrades of the distant North ... (although in kind Bannerloos)
                        The Russian poet Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin, despite the fact that the quarter-piece, is one of the pillars of the formation of the classical literary Russian language ...
                        Here though obddrischis you then - chetvertnegr Pushkin - RUSSIAN founder-poet.
                        Because - RUSSIAN - this is a state of mind ... pure, unclouded by all sorts of nonsense there .. souls for which everyone is open, all brothers - until they have shown the opposite ...
                        There is no such nationality - Russian (except as in the passport) - there is a willingness and desire to serve their homeland - Rus, Russia, Old Russian, Kievan Rus.
                        I’m standing on that ....
              2. 0
                3 February 2012 18: 31
                Quote: ab
                God forbid, I don’t draw analogies, but the reason for the German attack on Poland was the same type --- They shot first.

                We will be realistic, they eventually lost, if only aggressive Poles would have won, but this is a subjunctive mood
        2. 0
          3 February 2012 18: 13
          Let the comrades squeeze into your heated argument! I am personally very moved by the topic of speculations of Ukrainian patriots about the Khaz! I remember very well the quarrels between the independent Orangemen and Russia over gas prices. When Mr. Yushchenko and his ally with a scythe reached the throne, they first rushed to serve the interests of their financial patrons. Over the years, with the tacit consent of Russia. unwilling to spoil relations with Europe, Ukraine is accustomed to parasitizing, sitting on "its" pipe, using part of the supplied supply for its own needs, and selling the surplus with its own margin to Geyropa, plus money for transit. When the Orangemen arrived, they decided that it would continue to be so, but, in addition to this, they wanted to cut them down from Russia under some article. and even feet about Russia, (for the sake of Western patrons already), if necessary, you can wipe it. But - no! Russia has already begun to straighten its shoulders and began to raise its voice. Here the game of nerves and leapfrog in the execution of contracts began. Geyropa would be happy to play off our two countries once and for all, but - that's bad luck - the pipe goes through the nezalezhna and, in the event of an escalation of the gas conflict, it itself suffers excessively. We went along the path of "Nord Stream", and Ukraine was in flight. She was offered to participate, but she proudly declared that she had her own GTS and secretly rubbed her hands from the opportunity to dictate conditions to both Russia and Geyrope, in case they refused to undertake due to huge costs. We missed a little nezalezhni - the money was found, approvals were carried out and built! And, when Yulia was prime minister, when the previous agreements were prolonged, Ukraine insisted on precisely those principles of gas pricing, which, with a change in market conditions, brought the price of gas to the current value. Of course, Russia, as a "strategic partner" (Yanukovych spoke about this so beautifully, breaking into the presidential chair!), Could make some concessions. But, apparently, the brothers got out of the square in such a way with their girlish changeable mood that healthy (in some way - cynical) principles - "You don't want to coexist in a good way, let's do it through gas levers!" I perfectly understand our leadership in this matter - Ukraine is not a small child to endlessly indulge its whims! So, PARROT, there is no need for gratitude for the high price of gas - we did not deserve it! With this to the past and present Hetmans of the non-profit. The approach to friendship and cooperation with Russia will change in the Ukrainian establishment, I think it will resonate with the Russian leadership. All the best! Good luck! Best regards, Esaul.
          1. PARROT
            -2
            3 February 2012 18: 36
            maybe you have laid it out correctly, I won’t argue, the manner is certainly not diplomatic, but the main thing for me is that at the end you wrote that if the approach of the Ukrainian representative office to Russia changes, then Russia will be treated accordingly. Only now I was following our establishment, they just wanted to agree on a European gas price and, in principle, everything was fine with Russia, say, Esaul, what Yanukovych’s power was guilty of with Russia and what we need to do to improve relations with Russia ?
            1. 0
              3 February 2012 19: 00
              Quote: PARROT
              Only now I was following our establishment, they just wanted to agree on a European gas price and, in principle, everything was fine with Russia, say, Esaul, what Yanukovych’s power was guilty of with Russia and what we need to do to improve relations with Russia ?

              Maybe so, but in order to have a price like Germany, you have to offer something in exchange for the manner of Germany, but what did Ukraine offer?
              1. PARROT
                -1
                3 February 2012 19: 20
                I’m tired of unsubscribing to the majority, but in Ukraine the price is higher than that of any European country.
              2. -1
                3 February 2012 22: 48
                What did Germany offer? Allowed to build the Nord Stream, for myself, my beloved? But the most interesting thing is that even if (hypothetically) imagine that the price of Russian gas fell by half, nothing will change for us ordinary people in Ukraine. The prices for the population will be the same Our "leaders" will come up with a fairy tale, they will find a reason not to reduce the price for the population, but the difference is in their pocket. So to hell with it, with the price, let it be $ 400. Moreover, ordinary Russians also have nothing from this, everything is racked by Gazprom.
                1. Chukotka resident
                  -2
                  3 February 2012 23: 19
                  Quote: revnagan
                  What did Germany offer? Allowed to build the Nord Stream, for myself, my beloved? But the most interesting thing is that even if (hypothetically) imagine that the price of Russian gas fell by half, nothing will change for us ordinary people in Ukraine. The prices for the population will be the same Our "leaders" will come up with a fairy tale, they will find a reason not to reduce the price for the population, but the difference is in their pocket. So to hell with it, with the price, let it be $ 400. Moreover, ordinary Russians also have nothing from this, everything is racked by Gazprom.

                  Without Ukrainian storage facilities, Russia will "fill up" gas exports to Europe
                  http://ubr.ua/market/industrial/ez-ukrainskih-hranilish-ossiia-zavalit-eksport-g
                  aza-v-vropu-121028
                  1. Aibolit
                    -1
                    3 February 2012 23: 25
                    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                    Without Ukrainian storage facilities, Russia will "fill up" gas exports to Europe

                    Not convinced not convinced at all
                    Bad bot No.
                    1. Chukotka resident
                      -2
                      4 February 2012 00: 04
                      Quote: Aibolit
                      Not convinced not convinced at all

                      So kiss yourself in what is now - Gazprom is not able to provide Russia and European contracts. Let me remind you - today 490 mln were supposed to enter, and 415 from our gas export only to Europe came in .... request
                      There is no gas in the scattering, soon you will be scattered with Kuzbass coal, and gas for export will be in your pockets ....
                      1. Aibolit
                        -2
                        4 February 2012 00: 12
                        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
                        So kiss yourself in what is now - Gazprom is not able to provide Russia and European contracts. Let me remind you that today 490 mln were supposed to enter, and 415 of our gas only went to Europe ....
                        There is no gas in the scattering, soon the Kuzbass coal for the scattering will heat the scattering, and the gas in the pockets ....

                        Lift down the lady calls you, and the bucket is the place of your natural habitat
                        the technical capabilities of my homeland are enormous; temporary difficulties are just an excuse for your winter exacerbations and not for serious conclusions angry
            2. 0
              4 February 2012 22: 09
              Oh, and you belong to the team of Yanukovych? Funny ...
          2. 0
            3 February 2012 18: 43
            Regards, esaul ...
            since I myself work in this field, everything is clear to me and you are right ...
            only after all, on the other side of the gate valve there is a truth, they didn’t coordinate it with us, for some reason ..?
            Well, it’s a very trumpet ..- voiced ... and that’s it.
            and for Europe - Russia supplies gas, no gas, you are to blame ... and all things ..
            such an approach is quite at the mercy of the politicians of Ukraine ...

            and it would be okay politicians, it seems to me there is a trash "in law" rules
            1. PARROT
              -2
              3 February 2012 18: 54
              Politos from Ukraine are in the hands of the heating season to pass without incident, especially with those who are now in power, since their electorate is mainly the eastern part of Ukraine, which has special sympathy for Russia and since there has already been a precedent that Ukraine took gas themselves, this power needs to not even think about it. That is, the conflict that is now flaring up is beneficial to the purely Russian side. And about the trash "in the law" that is right ... there are people taller than Yanukovych and they decide almost everything.
              1. -1
                3 February 2012 19: 01
                Quote: PARROT
                Political politicians from Ukraine are happy to allow the heating season to go smoothly, especially because they are now in power, as their electorate is mainly the eastern part of Ukraine, which has a special liking for Russia

                So Sedna again the incident, again gas, and again disappeared ....
                1. PARROT
                  -3
                  3 February 2012 19: 21
                  it’s only beneficial to a greater extent to Russia ... she has nothing to lose? more precisely, it’s like a chess pawn exchanges the queen. To the authorities that now in Ukraine the gas conflict is catastrophically unprofitable.
              2. 0
                3 February 2012 19: 25
                No, PARROT, no ..
                ".. That is, the conflict that is now flaring up is beneficial to the purely Russian side." .. Well, why is it beneficial to us? As the compressor is pumping, it is pumping, changing the operating mode is a change in flight altitude for an airliner .. because it is gas turbine aircraft engines that are used as gas-pumping units. And our task is to drive gas to Europe. And not change the height from the bulldozer.
                Eastern Ukraine feeds more through low-pressure networks - well, Oblgaz, gorgaz - there have never been conflicts there, at the regional-district level they are being resolved.
                Eh, well, the great Ukrainian writer - N.V. Gogol, the words - "the gentlemen are fighting, the forelocks are cracking at the claps"
                I read your earlier - the Ukrainians were brought out in Vienna - I understood that with this it is possible to mirytsya. Well, and you - also not a gift - why did I become a Muscovite (bros, I read it - I didn't believe it .. instead of cash registers (well, there -ts-) - suddenly appeared .. a Nazi muzzle .. the auto-translator is weird, something) wrote down - if I was born "in OUzbekistan" this is how the cunningly squeezed letter O with two dots on top is read in Russian. So, who am I - ... who knows.? ...
                We must not bark, we cannot .. Each of our clumsy things is an extra purse of shekels to someone.
                1. PARROT
                  -2
                  3 February 2012 19: 46
                  I don’t understand what are you talking about, to be honest FIG knows why gas supplies have decreased, someday it will become clear.
                  http://korrespondent.net/business/economics/1315157-filaret-vyskazalsya-o-rossij
                  skom-gaze-dlya-ukrainy-vot-tak-bratskij-narod is so simple an article.
                  Experts believe that the reasons for the shortage of Russian gas in the European market are 20-degree frosts and the inability of Russia to quickly increase gas production.
                  http://korrespondent.net/business/companies/1315190-ukraina-gotova-pomoch-rossii
                  -v-obespechenii-evropejskih-potrebitelej-gazom
                  And you, of course, can write anything here, but I definitely know and trust the resources to which I refer and I am also a patriot of my country and there is no better country in the world, I seriously think so. to zustrіchі.
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2012 20: 20
                    PARROT, again some hidden form of discontent ..
                    I willingly believe, and you would not be the one (for whom you pretend to be) - if it were otherwise - the Slav is sick of the soul for the Motherland (whether it is bad or good).
                    Frosts, of course, can reduce gas supplies - due to temperature variations - but, MOVE MY EYES, you have to understand it, and not scream indiscriminately - but, you bastards, have blocked everything ..... I exaggerate.
                    I know that in underground storage facilities (these are such special tanks for gas, usually in spent salt formations, they are airtight and allow high pressure), gas is stored at Mostransgaz (this is the main supply to Ukraine) for two winters. We will work out the year on the same reserves. Why suddenly a shortage ... we must understand ... and not vote.


                    That is the point ... that we are beginning to believe in some resources more than MYSELF. I, as a communications specialist, sit on a gas pipe. Do I really know the situation worse than some Ekhsperty there ...? Bought, in the bud ...
                    1. 0
                      3 February 2012 20: 41
                      Experts believe the inability to quickly increase production ......
                      Do these Experts imagine - well - a gas well?
                      Click to enlarge ???? - break the clay cork, allow the BREAKTHROUGH of explosive gas to the surface ?, allow high pressure gas to the engineering? systems - not designed for this? To allow the output of process parameters to EXTREMELY norms ???
                      Which state experts can ADVISE?
                      They would be called saboteurs ... that’s it.
                      1. PARROT
                        -2
                        4 February 2012 02: 42
                        I do not understand these issues, I do not say anything.
        3. +1
          3 February 2012 20: 07
          Quote: PARROT
          About Putin and in response to our "nonsense" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvSU79ofn5w [right]

          Yes, the statement is really controversial from the point of view of ethics (it happens to him), but the semantic load is perhaps not on this phrase, he strengthened the role of the phrase "because we are the winner of the people", it is ugly, of course, but not a statement
    5. smoke
      0
      4 February 2012 08: 35
      No one knows the truth.
      And why did they divide and still divide the Eastern Slavs?
      here to this question felts there is no answer felts great (their) fear. but everyone is silent.
      There is a wish for Ukrainians and Belarusians not to feel like a younger brother (remove the complex)
      Only (we will not help you, but somewhere we will interfere, but on the carousel and delicious gingerbread you will give us Dasha, otherwise we will cry)
      and this is not necessary.
  16. Indigo
    +2
    3 February 2012 13: 33
    "On July 7, 2011, Komsomolskaya Pravda published an interview with the director of this archive, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Sergei Mironenko, under the general heading" Secrets of the State Archive ", who, answering the correspondent's questions, shamelessly laughed at the memory of the defenders of the capital, calling the feat of twenty-eight heroes The Panfilovites were a myth, claiming that "there were no heroically fallen Panfilov heroes", referring to the fact that after the war "one by one people began to appear who were supposed to lie in the grave."
    ---------------------- ----------------------
    The historian Mironenko felt a kick in the ass and collapsed to the frozen bottom of the trench. Still not believing what was happening, he got up and looked up. On the edge of the trench in a semicircle were soldiers of the Red Army.
    - This is the last? - clarified one of the military, apparently the commander.
    “That's right, comrade political instructor!” - the soldier reported, whose kick sent the director of the State Archive to the trench.
    - Excuse me, what's going on? The historian muttered.
    “How is it going?” - grinned the political instructor. - The establishment of historical justice. Now you, Mironenko, will save Moscow from the Nazi invaders.
    Politruk pointed to a field on which several dozen German tanks froze in anticipation. Tankers climbed onto the towers and, shivering from the cold, watched with interest what was happening at Russian positions.
    - I? Why me? - Mironenko asked in shock. “What do I have to do with this?”
    “The most direct,” answered the political instructor. - All of you here have the most direct relation to this!
    The commander pointed Mironenko to the trench and the historian saw that it was full of respected people: there were already academician Pivovarov and his nephew-journalist, Svanidze was sitting by the machine gun with bulging eyes, next to him was the main de-regulator Fedotov, who was trembling from the cold, or from horror , further there were still familiar faces, but the frightened archivist completely forgot their names.
    “What are we all doing here?” - asked Mironenko. - This is not our era.
    The soldiers laughed together. Not only Russians but also Germans laughed, and even the recently killed German tanker, trying to maintain decency and pretending not to hear anything, nevertheless, shuddered with laughter.
    - Yes? - the political instructor was surprised. “But you all tell in such detail in detail how it really was!” You explain with foam at the mouth that we threw Hitler with corpses. It’s you shouting that the people won the war, not the commanders, and especially not Stalin. You explain this to everyone that Soviet heroes are a myth! You yourself, Mironenko, told us that we were a myth!
    - Excuse me, are you political instructor Klochkov? - asked Mironenko.

    “Exactly,” the commander answered. - And these are my fighters who are destined to lay their heads in this battle at the Dubosekovo junction! But you, Mironenko, assured that everything was wrong, that all these heroes were a propaganda myth! And you know what we decided? We decided to really be a myth. And to defend Moscow to trust trusted and reliable people. In particular, to you!
    - And you? The historian asked quietly.
    “And we are in the rear,” one of the fighters answered. - The guys and I were thinking to die for our homeland, for Stalin, but since we are a myth, why should we substitute bullets for nothing! Fight for yourself!
    “Hey Russians, how long have you been?” - shouted the shy German tankman.
    “Now, Hans, now,” the political instructor waved to him. - You see, Mironenko, time does not endure. It is time for you to defend your homeland.
    Then academician Pivovarov jumped out of the trench and rushed briskly towards the Germans with raised hands. In his hands he held white pants, which he was actively waving.
    “What a shame,” one of the fighters said.
    “Don’t worry,” Klochkov chuckled. - This is not our shame!
    Two German tankers caught Pivovarov and dragged him by the arms to the trench, dropping him down.
    “Schweine,” the German swore, looking at his overalls. “This hero of yours has pissed me off my leg with fear!”
    The second tankman shot Panfilov’s people to smoke and, drawing out, said:
    - Yes, comrades, you're out of luck! And for these here you were dying! Really in our Vaterland same have grown?
    “No, comrade,” one of the Panfilov responded to him. “You now have none.” Only gays and Turks.
    - And who are gays? - the German specified.
    A Red Army soldier whispered an answer to the aggressor in his ear. The face of the German was flooded with shame. Waving his hand, he went to the tank.
    “Let's quickly end with us,” he said. “I want to die from such things again.”

    Svanidze rushed from the trench to the political instructor.
    - Comrade commander, you misunderstood me, I didn’t say anything like that! And then, I can’t, I have a “white ticket”, I have poor eyesight and an ulcer!
    Politruk confidentially leaned towards Svanidze:
    - Do you think the tyrant Stalin was worried? He bombarded the enemy with cannon fodder! And even more so, I'm not your commander. You have your own - experienced and proven! Here he comes!
    From the depths of the trench Nikita Mikhalkov came to the place of conversation, holding a shovel from his hand.
    - Comrade political instructor, how can this be fought against tanks? - the director begged.
    “You know better,” the commander answered. “You already did this.” Yes, by the way, your beds are there. You can quickly establish anti-tank defense from them! Well, or pray, or something. Maybe help!
    Then the political instructor ordered the construction of his fighters.
    - Where are you going? - Mikhalkov asked with a longing in his voice.
    - Where to? - the political instructor grinned. - Take a position in your rear! The NKVD detachment is not at hand, so we ourselves will replace it! And if some scum from your penal battalion rushes out of position, we will shoot on the spot for cowardice and treason!
    - So there are no penal battles yet!
    - One created. Especially for you!
    German tanks roared engines. Desperate screams and swearing were heard in the trench - the new defenders of Moscow found out who was the first to expose the myths and dragged them into this story. Fedotov was beaten all together, after which he was thrown out of the trench under a German tank with a bottle. Someone shouted goodbye to him:
    - Well, for the Motherland, for Stalin!
    Mikhalkov clung to the outgoing political officer:
    - Comrade, my father fought, I was always a patriot and defender of heroes, help me!
    “Only out of respect for you,” the political instructor answered. - I give a great tool to fight the enemy! Could not be better!
    And the commander handed the director a badminton racket and three shuttlecocks.
    “Farewell, the Motherland will not forget you,” Mikhalkov, the political instructor, patted goodbye and rushed after his departing fighters ... (C)
  17. PARROT
    -2
    3 February 2012 13: 52
    Indigo,
    Have you decided to prove something by a fictional story? That or not was on his conscience.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 14: 41
      Quote: PARROT
      Have you decided to prove something by a fictional story? That or not was on his conscience.

      The Kremlin story is the story of lies, the archives are kept secret.
      1. PARROT
        0
        3 February 2012 14: 51
        For me, it was a big disappointment to find out that the story about Pavka Korchagin is fiction.
      2. Indigo
        0
        3 February 2012 16: 34
        I wanted to say only one thing and probably to say the most important thing for me (and for my deceased relatives) - Victory was created from the smallest HERITAGE - to find the strength and courage in oneself - to attack, whether near Brest, Odessa, Stalingrad, Berlin and to spit on everyone who found this courage in themselves - this is meanness and infamous immensity ...
      3. Aibolit
        +1
        3 February 2012 18: 22
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        You decided to prove something fictitious history? That or not was on his conscience.

        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        The Kremlin story - this is history .

        Your conversation with yourself is a HISTORY OF DISEASE !!! fool fool fool
    2. +1
      3 February 2012 15: 17
      Not only. It is on our common conscience. Here, by the way, the Panfilov heroes were discussed, you can look in the archive.
      1. Chukotka resident
        -3
        3 February 2012 16: 19
        Quote: Banshee
        Not only. It is on our common conscience.

        Yours, repent how the Germans repented for fascism ... - And there, maybe people will reach for you !? request
        1. -1
          3 February 2012 20: 11
          Quote: Resident of Chukotka
          Yours, repent how the Germans repented for fascism ... - And there, maybe people will reach for you !?

          The Lamb has nothing to repent
          1. Chukotka resident
            -3
            3 February 2012 20: 37
            Quote: Kyrgyz
            The Lamb has nothing to repent

            Then it is on - shurpa, henkali, kebabs and other Asian meat.
        2. 0
          4 February 2012 21: 19
          I will be a sinner - I repent, but without sin there is no repentance. But this is for me to decide for what and when to repent.
      2. recitatorus
        -3
        3 February 2012 16: 56
        The post-war population of Russia is half the descendants of the guard and rear rats !!! That's why there are so many traitors even in Chukotka, where incidentally the former Benderaites were evicted in batches, and Victory Day was not a holiday for them. So, resident of Chukotka, you Anyuy have you ever seen? fool
        1. Chukotka resident
          -4
          3 February 2012 20: 38
          Quote: recitatorus
          The post-war population of Russia is half the descendants of the guard and rear rats !!! That's why there are so many traitors even in Chukotka, where incidentally the former Benderaites were evicted in batches, and Victory Day was not a holiday for them. So, resident of Chukotka, you Anyuy have you ever seen?

          DV - this is Ukrainian Green Wedge.
          1. 0
            4 February 2012 21: 20
            Yo !!! Yes, you have rear rats and the guard as the rabbits bred, it turns out ...
  18. alexander hjcnjd
    -2
    3 February 2012 14: 47
    Putin uses the same "enemy image" with might and main, because there is no success, there are only problems. It is necessary to behave like Americans.
    "The" occupiers "did not carry out mass robbery of the occupied territories, genocide, total destruction of the bulk of the natives and the corral of the remnants of the aborigines on the reservation. Instead, they retained local self-government, built cities, ports, developed education, science, helped to create a national intelligentsia, in every possible way improved" occupied territories. "Russian occupiers" did not destroy the Georgian, Estonian, etc. culture and identity, but supported them in every possible way, even cultivated them. And how the real occupiers behave is well known from the examples of history: we know how the colonizers of the North behaved, Central and South America, Caribbean islands. " It would be better if we behaved like the West, they now have an excellent standard of living. And we built, asked, etc. And what did we get in the end?
    1. Chukotka resident
      -6
      3 February 2012 15: 29
      Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
      "Occupants"

      Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Maldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ichkeria, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Circassia, Kalmykia, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan - all openly that period is considered occupation.
      1. Aibolit
        +2
        3 February 2012 17: 41
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Maldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ichkeria, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Circassia, Kalmykia, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan - all openly that period is considered occupation.

        Stock all stock
        and here
        Iran Afghanistan Libya Egypt Palestine is the country now occupied by this very minute the USA where they Americans commit bloody atrocities Obama and Klintovoshka has long been waiting for a loop am
        1. ab
          ab
          -2
          3 February 2012 17: 47
          Quote: Aibolit
          Iran Afghanistan Libya Egypt Palestine is a country now occupied right now by the United States

          Well Iran unfortunately not yet. Yes, and Egypt in vain dragged here (after they redirected each other at the stadium, by the way blaming Israel and Yusov for this) who needs them.
          But the list can go on. Syria, Transnistria, Abkhazia, sowing. Ossetia
          1. Auschwitz
            +1
            3 February 2012 18: 34
            Quote: ab
            But the list can go on. Syria, Transnistria, Abkhazia, sowing. Ossetia

            OLOHA HAHAHA !!!!
            So you betrayed the bloody plans of your damned Washington hosts!
            Bad bot Very bad stupid bot! laughing laughing laughing
      2. 0
        3 February 2012 17: 58
        They are paid for this by the Anglo-Saxons.
        As for Kalmykia, I'm not sure. Also, what?
        If they stop paying, they will again be drawn to Russia. Russia is easy-going, "... I don't remember evil, I'll take it again ..." - where did the words come from, you know?
      3. 0
        3 February 2012 18: 33
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Maldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ichkeria, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Circassia, Kalmykia, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan - all openly that period is considered occupation.

        Officially believe, or have a certain number of outcasts who think so?
      4. -1
        3 February 2012 19: 14
        And you think we are interested in what they think there or not.
    2. Aibolit
      +2
      3 February 2012 17: 45
      Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
      You need to behave like Americans.
      "The" occupiers "did not carry out mass plundering of the occupied territories, genocide, total destruction of the bulk of the natives and the corral of the remnants of the aborigines on the reservation.

      Oh well this self-disclosure well, you hit the HAHAHA bot !!!
      USA
      Main article: Indians in the USA
      On April 30, 1774, the Yellow Stream Massacre took place near modern Wellsville (Ohio). A group of Virginia border settlers, led by young bandit Daniel Greathouse, killed 21 Mingo people, including Logan's mother, daughter, brother, nephew, sister, and cousin. Logan's killed daughter, Tunai, was in her late pregnancy. She was tortured and gutted inside while she was alive. The scalp was removed both from her and from the child who was cut out of her. Scalps were also removed from other mingos.


      Mass burial of Indians in Wounded Ni, South Dakota.
      In 1825, the US Supreme Court in one of its decisions formulated the Doctrine of Discovery, according to which the right to land of “open” land belongs to those who “discovered” it, and the indigenous population retains the right to reside on it, but not land ownership. On the basis of this doctrine, the Law on the Relocation of the Indians was adopted already in 1830, the victims of which are the Five civilized tribes.
      On February 26, 1860, six Indian residents, landowners, and businessmen massacred the Viyot Indians on Indiana Island off the coast of northern California, killing at least 60, and possibly more than 200 women, children, and the elderly with axes and knives. [16 ] [17]
      In 1867, the Indian Resettlement Act appeared on the reservation. Native American reservations were created in unsuitable places for agriculture. In the first decades, they were crowded, resulting in hunger killing hundreds of thousands. [18] Large reservations are located on the Colorado Plateau in Arizona (Navajo tribe), in the mountains in northern Utah, on the Great Plains in North Dakota and South Dakota, along the Missouri River (Sioux tribe), on an intermountain plateau in Wyoming and in foothills of the Cordillera in Montana (Cheyenne Indians). A large number of reservations are located along the border of the USA and Canada.
      On December 29, 1890, a massive assassination of Lakota Indians by the US Army took place in the vicinity of the city of Wounded-Nee, South Dakota. Here, the Indians gathered to hold the popular "dance of the spirits." According to various estimates, about 300 people were killed and buried (see photo). [19]
      In the 1800th century, a large-scale American campaign to destroy bison was known to weaken the prairie tribes. According to researchers, in 30 the number of bison was 40-20 million animals, and by the end of the century they were almost completely exterminated: less than one thousand remained [21] [22] [30]. American General Philip Sheridan wrote: “The bison hunters have done more in the past two years to solve the acute Indian problem than the entire regular army in the past 20 years. They destroy the material base of the Indians. Send them gunpowder and lead, if you like, and let them kill, flay the skins and sell them until they kill all the buffalo! ” Sheridan in the US Congress proposed the establishment of a special medal for hunters, emphasizing the importance of extermination of bison [XNUMX].


      40 bison hides at Dodge City, Kansas, 000.
      In 1850, at the first session, the California Legislature passed the “Indian Management and Protection Act” [23], which outlined the principles for future relations between whites and Indians. Providing the Indians with some legal protection, the Act nevertheless fixed the inequality of whites and Indians before the law and laid the foundation for widespread abuse regarding the use of Indians as labor, although allowing them to live on private lands. During 1851 and 1852, the California Legislature approved the allocation of $ 1,1 million for arming and maintaining militia units to "suppress hostile Indians" and in 1857 issued bonds in the amount of $ 410 thousand for the same purpose. Although, theoretically aimed at resolving conflicts between whites and Indians, these payments only stimulated the formation of new volunteer squads and an attempt to destroy all Indians in California. [24]
      At the level of local municipalities, rewards for the killed Indians were practiced. The authorities of Shasta City in Northern California paid $ 5 per head of an Indian in 1855, a settlement near Marysville in 1859 paid a reward from funds donated by the population “for every scalp or other convincing confirmation” that the Indian was killed. In 1861, there were plans in the Teham County district for a fund to pay for the scalps of the Indians, and two years later in Honey Lake they paid 25 cents for the scalp of an Indian. [25]
      German ethnologist Gustav von Koenigswald said that members of the anti-Indian police "poisoned the drinking water of the village of Kayngang with strychnine ... causing the death of approximately two thousand Indians of all ages." [13]
      In 2009, the US Congress included in the Defense Spending Act a statement of formal apology to US Indians for "the many incidents of violence, mistreatment, and neglect suffered by Indigenous Peoples by citizens of the United States." [26]
      Mass burial of Indians in Wounded Ni, South Dakota.
      1. ab
        ab
        -3
        3 February 2012 17: 57
        Quote: Aibolit
        In 1850, at the first session, the California Legislature passed the “Indian Management and Protection Act” [23], which outlined the principles for future relations between whites and Indians. Providing the Indians some legal protection

        You are back by the time of the king of peas.
        1.1497 - The introduction of restrictions on the right to transfer from one landowner to another - St. George's Day.
        2.1581 - Abolition of St. George's Day - “reserved summers”.
        3.1597 - The right of the landowner to search for the fugitive peasant for 5 years and to return him to the owner - “lesson summers”.
        4.1607 - The term of investigation of runaway peasants was increased to 15 years.
        5.1649 year - the Council Code abolished the summer classes, thus securing the indefinite search for the fugitive peasants.
        6.1718 — 1724 - tax reform, finally attached peasants to the land.
        7.1747 - the landowner was given the right to sell his serfs to recruits to any person.
        8.1760 - the landowner received the right to exile peasants to Siberia.
        9.1765 - the landowner received the right to exile peasants not only to Siberia, but also to hard labor.
        10.1767 - the peasants were strictly forbidden to file petitions (complaints) against their landlords personally to the emperor.
        11.1783 - the spread of serfdom in the Left-Bank Ukraine.
        In 1861, a reform was carried out in Russia, called the Great Reform by officialdom, which abolished serfdom
        You must know your history
        On this day in 1865, slavery was officially abolished in the United States.
        4 years difference. There is something to be proud of.
        1. Aibolit
          0
          3 February 2012 18: 24
          Quote: ab
          In 1861, a reform was carried out in Russia, called the Great Reform by officialdom, which abolished serfdom

          Better late than never
          There is something to be proud of drinks
        2. -1
          3 February 2012 22: 06
          Oops ....
          And let's, for interest, compare the release time of "IN PRINT" of these documents ...
          You start ... otherwise accused of bias ..
          Date, printing office ...
          and then we'll see ... about the "graceful hunt" ..
          Honorable ab ... waiting ... for publications ...
      2. Auschwitz
        0
        3 February 2012 18: 30
        Quote: Aibolit
        Mass burial of Indians in Wounded Ni, South Dakota.

        Don’t argue that the Holocaust of the Indians is genocide!
  19. +2
    3 February 2012 14: 50
    And a fictional or not fictional story! The bottom line is that these, "experts", misinterpret history so that it becomes sick! Okay, who studied in Soviet schools, this crap cannot be crammed into the brains, and what about boys born in 90? These "experts" cripple the mind, these guys! How will they take this lie? They took the Citadels to such Mikhalkov-nobles with sticks, trying to inspire about the war. His fool daughter, boobs, demonstrates to the burnt tanker! Kisses Mina ...
    Ugh !!!. Subtract from this nobleman, every penny, for this scum! Turning over about the war, about the victims, about the camps, so that our Canadian, our daughter, Latvians who fled with the Germans to the west, agreed on a world level that the camp with the victims was a rehabilitative institution!
    Like a pioneer camp! Srakoshvili puppy, compared to this she-wolf!
  20. skalozub52
    -1
    3 February 2012 15: 55
    Honestly, I don’t understand where our directors are looking? After Brother-2, I didn’t see a single optimistic film. Yes, and this is the topic, the US ambassador and our front. Yes, here you can stir up such a plot. Let Gazprom subsidize.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -2
      3 February 2012 16: 22
      Quote: skalozub52
      After Brother 2, I have not seen a single optimistic film.

      lol
    2. 0
      3 February 2012 19: 04
      Quote: skalozub52
      Honestly, I don’t understand where our directors are looking? After Brother-2, I didn’t see a single optimistic film. Yes, and this is the topic, the US ambassador and our front. Yes, here you can stir up such a plot. Let Gazprom subsidize.

      Watch the best movie
      1. Chukotka resident
        -3
        3 February 2012 20: 43
        Quote: Kyrgyz
        Watch the best movie

        You know, and indeed today - I’ll turn on my full SD-TV, my media player, my audio system, pour myself a glass of Masandrov’s fine wine (I took a couple of bottles two hours ago), I’ll take all kinds of appearances and put this last Rusisht ball in SH- quality ... Parju over the wretched
        1. Chukotka resident
          -2
          3 February 2012 23: 07
          Resident of Chukotka,
          But I thought what to watch crap - I'd rather look at Avatar again. There is also a rotten essence.
          1. +1
            4 February 2012 21: 24
            And kill yourself there about your teleputer ...
  21. Aibolit
    +1
    3 February 2012 17: 37
    The Holocaust Myth
    THE TRUTH ON THE FATE OF JEWS IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR

    Among the myths of the 6th century created by the world behind the scenes, the myth of the "Holocaust" that 55 million Jews were allegedly exterminated in gas chambers during the Second World War is being introduced into the mass consciousness with particular insistence. Its purpose is to present the case in such a way that it was the Jewish people who suffered the most, and therefore the rest of the peoples are obliged to feel guilt, repent and pay compensation. Ultimately, the myth of the "Holocaust" is a crime against Christianity, against humanity, against Russia and, finally, against the Jewish people themselves. Indeed, the creators of this myth blasphemously declare that the "Holocaust" is a denial of Christ, for "the hardships and sufferings of Christ are incomparable" with the suffering of the Jews in the Second World War. In this case, "Christ is a lie, and salvation will not come from him," but from Judaism, which, as it were, became a collective messiah thanks to the "Holocaust". The myth of the "Holocaust" offends humanity, for it represents the Jewish people as the main victim of the last war, although in reality the Jews suffered no more, and even less than many other nations involved in the war of extermination, which was unleashed by the most consistent revival of imperial ideas of Western civilization, a maniac and man-hater (and not only in relation to Jews) Adolf Hitler. Humanity paid 6 million lives for this war, including the real, not myth-making, share of the Jewish people is not 500 million, as the calculations of specialists show, but about XNUMX thousand people.
    Of course, this number is very large and arouses our deep condolences. However, is it possible to speak about the special sacrifice of Jews when the share of the Russian people (including the Little Russians and Belarusians) in these 55 million victims is at least 27 million men and women, children and the elderly? It was the Russian people, and not any other people, who drank the greatest cup of suffering during the Second World War and saved all mankind from the "new world order", which Hitler's current heirs - American presidents and their colleagues in Israel - are trying to impose today.
    The creators of the "Holocaust" myth underestimate the victims of the Russian people hundreds of times. For example, the "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" reports that 3 million Jews were allegedly killed in German camps, as well as "tens of thousands of Roma and Soviet prisoners of war." Although in fact the number of only Soviet prisoners of war (the overwhelming majority of them were Russians) who died in German camps before 1944 is at least 3,3 million people.
    Thus, the myth of the "Holocaust" insults the memory of millions of Russians who fell victim to the "new world order". Moreover, not a single page of the "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" mentions the tens of millions of victims of the genocide of the Russian people committed under the leadership of the Jewish leaders in the first two decades after 1917. Ultimately, the myth of the "Holocaust" is not good for the Jews either.
    Imagine such a fantastic case. In some family, the children living with their parents imagined that they had died and began to convene relatives for the commemoration, then they arranged an empty grave, erected a monument on it with the names of their parents and the fictional date of their death, etc.
    You don't need to be a psychologist to understand that in this case, something very bad would actually happen to the parents, or they would even die in reality. Well, if we project our example onto the political picture of the world, where boundless lies coexist with equally boundless cruelty and political adventurism, then our concern will have no boundaries. That is why among those who in the West debunk the lie of the "Holocaust" there are many Jews who understand that this myth is quarreling them with the whole world, an example of which is the events in the Middle East. In the wake of the myth of the "Holocaust", as if in retaliation for the "special suffering of the Jewish people" against the will of the inhabitants of Palestine, the State of Israel emerged illegally, becoming a constant hotbed of tension and war in the Middle East, which brought suffering and death to millions of Arabs. The work offered to the reader is translated from German and belongs to the pen of the famous Swiss revisionist (as they call the fighters against the "Holocaust" lie in the West) Jurgen Graf. He is not the first in a series of works on this topic, but the most concise and at the same time quite informative - a kind of summary of the entire problem. It is also important that the author of the book is not a German, but a citizen of peaceful Switzerland. He conducts his courageous research only in the name of truth and justice. Anyone who wishes to study in more detail the history of the origin and the "foundations" on which the largest myth of the century rests will have to refer to the foreign literature given in the notes.
  22. zzbear
    0
    3 February 2012 18: 14
    It was a tragedy for us

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyz7poxAnGI


    For them it was like "victory"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF8YJ5yv1jc
    1. Auschwitz
      0
      3 February 2012 18: 38
      Quote: zzbear
      It was a tragedy for us

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyz7poxAnGI


      For them it was like "victory"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF8YJ5yv1jc

      Doggy dogmas won the battle but did not win the war with us Russians !!!
      1. Odesit
        0
        4 February 2012 02: 20
        YOU'RE RIGHT Dear AUSCHWITZ!
        RUSSIANS HAVE NEVER BEEN WINNED BY ANYONE AND NEVER!
        RUSSIANS CAN PLAY A LOT OF BATTLES, THEN TO WIN, THE MOST IMPORTANT BATTLE - WHICH WILL RESOLVE THE ORIGIN OF THE WAR AND WIN THE WAR! EXAMPLE OF THIS IS A WORLD HISTORY. EUROPE IN DEBT AT RUSSIA!
        YOU ARE YOU AUSCHWITZ.! Don't you think that the place of some "Euro-democrats" is there ?! (in this well-equipped establishment)?
  23. -3
    3 February 2012 18: 36
    How are you all tired ... Arabs, Jews, Saxons, Chinese, and all the rest ... If only the whole planet would have been, and finally enjoying the silence ... angry
    1. zzbear
      0
      3 February 2012 18: 39
      Quote: Mercury
      One would give the whole planet


      for a start, you need another planet-type "globe of the USSR" and then you can love it smile
  24. Auschwitz
    -2
    3 February 2012 20: 15
    Well, if they talk about threats then it’s better not imaginary but real tangible

    The violent indignation of the Polish deputies caused the unexpected interest of the American Embassy in Warsaw in the internal procedural issues of voting in the Commission on Innovations and Modern Technologies. An employee of the embassy called MP Mieczyslaw Holba asking if the rules of the Sejm had been violated when voting in the commission, and whether the vote was free or was based on decisions of the factions. Representatives of all political parties strongly protested the intervention of the embassy in the internal affairs of Poland.

    On January 25, thousands of Internet users (in Poland they are called internats) entered the square in almost all cities, demanding the cancellation of the government’s decision to accede to the international agreement ACTA. Several thousand people gathered in Gdansk near the house of Prime Minister Donald Tusk.
    Krakow, Bydgoszcz, Katowice, Bialystok, Poznan, Plock, Wroclaw, Olsztyn - this is not an exhaustive list of Polish cities, which swept the wave of youth protests. The most numerous protests (up to 10 thousand participants) took place in the Polish cultural capital - Krakow. In general, the protests were quite peaceful and civilized, but in Kielce the events took a rather dramatic turn. In this two hundred thousandth town, about three thousand students took to the streets, who were much more aggressive than their comrades in other cities. They blocked the main street, stopped cars, rocked them, pulled out traffic signs, threw bricks at the police, one of whom was taken to the hospital. 24 rioters were detained by police.
    Poland hasn’t seen anything like this since the time of the Solidarity of the eighties. In different cities, the posters at the rallies were identical, which suggests a good organization of protests across the country. The slogans “Down with information totalitarianism”, “Internet gestaPO” (meaning software, or in Polish PO, that is, Patforma Obywatelska - the ruling party of Donald Tusk), “Here Poland, not Brussels, here ASTA does not support” , “The Internet for people, not for corporations” and even “Down with Communism” also say that the movement of young Internet users in defense of their freedom received some ideological nourishment from older comrades.

    Youth protests were not limited to rallies. All government sites were subjected to DDOS attacks and were blocked for several days. The symbol of the protest movement was the mask of Guy Fawkes, a participant in the famous Gunpowder Plot of 1605 against the English King James I, executed on January 31, 1606. This mask in the minds of modern Internet users is strongly associated with the Anonimous movement, which unites supporters of anonymity on the Internet, who uphold the freedom of comment and the placement of any content on the network. By the way, the slogan, placed on the cover of Newsweek, in English sounds "We do not forget, we do not forgive, expect us" and is the corporate slogan of the group Anonimous.

    Cover of the Polish version of Newsweek.
    Caption: “We are anonymous, our name is Legion. Do not forget, do not forgive. We are going"
  25. -1
    3 February 2012 20: 51
    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
    Parju over the wretched

    Again this banderlog drew ... Wait for the garbage in the form of pictures. Bullied by his stupidity ...
  26. BAT
    +1
    3 February 2012 21: 31
    MEN !!! WELL, HOW MUCH ALL OF YOU CAN ASK, WELL DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MUCH SOMETHING - lives. Chukotka, mr. tank, banderLOKH ... WELL IT HIMSULY LIKE TO DEPEND ON OUR SITE. YOU SEE IT, BETTER THAN AN ANNOUS FLY. HOW MUCH IT WAS NOT REMOVED, AND HE AGAIN IS CLIMBING HERE. And YOU, AS SMALL CHILDREN, COME INTO A POLE WITH A UNCERTAINTY, DISTURB FROM THE BASIC TOPIC. And HE IS GLAD TO THIS. BECAUSE WHERE ANY AMONG SUCH UNABIDISMS ARE PRAISED. AH AS IT IS ON THE MILITARY REVIEW OF RUSSIAN TROLLS, DO NOT SPEND YOUR PRECIOUS TIME AND ATTENTION FOR THE SUDDY SCHIZOIDS, AND THIS BEING IS A POOSUITING SCOCHING AND IT WILL DAMAGE
    1. Chukotka resident
      -4
      3 February 2012 21: 57
      sichevik,
      Write in font 3 times more - so you type will be 3 times smarter. lol
      1. Aibolit
        +1
        3 February 2012 22: 07
        Quote: Resident of Chukotka
        Write in font 3 times more - so you type will be 3 times smarter.

        Talk better with your bot will become more tolerant of people wink
    2. Odesit
      0
      4 February 2012 00: 14
      Sichevik.
      You are completely right. I’ve been talking about this for about two weeks now !. Enough of the provocation. WEBSITE OUR!
      Let him bring down Tyagnibok and carry out his political information there.
      1. Chukotka resident
        -4
        4 February 2012 00: 39
        Odesit,
        And, he is already a Rachel from Russia - he did not notice the new.
      2. +3
        4 February 2012 16: 11
        sichevik,
        Aibolit,
        Odesit,
        Guys, just ignoring it is half the battle! There will be a lot of croaking, like from a swamp frog! You need not to be lazy and - minus, even returning to past discussions. Faster negative rating will pick up - faster - will be removed. True, - one hell - will be drawn under another nickname. It was held today - how much this gop company has mined people ... Before communication, guys! drinks
  27. 0
    3 February 2012 21: 34
    People ... what the hell ..?
    Comrade Banderloos has returned - is it really impossible to see him at the posts ...
    you perceive it as a novice ...
    the same zh.opa selling ... why is there time to lose with him ... NO it .. and that's it
  28. Odesit
    +1
    3 February 2012 21: 51
    Good evening everyone.
    The article is correct. The author correctly described the main tendencies of distortion of the historical truth by "democratic eagles".
    Dear like-minded friends! There is no need to waste time on cues and attempts to prejudice those who, by virtue of their illiteracy or engagement by one or another force, affirm the RUSSIAN THREAT!
    THE RUSSIAN THREAT has never existed and does not exist at the moment.
    And here is the last court of appeal, to which, at the most critical moments of world history, all of humanity turned their eyes to the times of all the great crises - RUSSIA - IT HAS A PLACE TO BE!
    Let's look at it in more detail.
    When the Kingdom of Sweden by the beginning of the 18th century became the most powerful military mechanism in Europe, kept the German principalities, Denmark, Poland, Hanover in fear, interfered with the English shipping on the Baltic Sea, collected duties from merchant ships passing through the Straits - he was nicknamed "THE EUROPE PLANTER". Numerous coalitions of European states against Sweden were defeated.
    WHILE RUSSIA DOESN'T ENTER THE BUSINESS!
    But as soon as the RUSSIAN WEAPON destroyed the "PLAYER OF EUROPE". This small and bastard pack of "Europeans" instead of gratitude put forward the thesis about "RUSSIAN MEDVED", which allegedly threatens Europe!
    The same thing was observed at the end of the Napoleonic Wars, when the European states completely defeated by the French and turned into vassals of France, instead of deep gratitude and reverence for the country to the WINNER OF RUSSIA, answered with black ingratitude.
    The same picture is the Balkan Wars. The gratitude of the "brothers" of the Slavs whom we liberated from the Ottoman yoke is known (some Bulgarians fought two wars against us, and Romanians still sleep badly because of their boyar ambitions. "
    The Second World War is perhaps the best example!
    When the Anglo-Saxons realized. that they are on the brink of a military catastrophe, the flow of their "friendly gratitude to RUSSIA had no boundaries"
    It is enough to leaf through the correspondence between Churchill and Roosevelt with Stalin! What’s there, not a telegram, then a compliment and a kiss in the ass of Grandfather Stalin!
    Because they realized, if not RUSSIA, then the Anglo-Saxon world will collapse under the blow of the Teutons!
    However, the ingratitude and meanness of these "comrades" has no boundaries!
    As soon as Germany ceased to be dangerous, they again took up the old songs about RUSSIAN BEAR!
    In general, as the popular wisdom says, whoever shouts the thief the thief the thief loudest is actually the thief!
    Obviously gentlemen from the "democratic community" do not know this.
    Well, whoever said, but no matter how they are. Europe has so many sins that if you start listing them, then no resource will be enough, starting with the Crusades and ending with Libya! So let it shut up!
    We are in our own land!
    And let them say thanks again, that we have not yet remembered some of the states of the limitrophs, which historically are part of the territory of the RUSSIAN STATE.
    And in the end, stop fighting about the fact that your country is called an invader. In this case, the Americans are proud to say, THESE ARE THE INTERESTS OF STATE SECURITY (despite the fact that no one knows how far this concept extends from them).
    If we need some kind of territory in order to ensure our own security, then we must control it!
    Otherwise, there will be others!
    We live in an age when there are no "unnecessary territories" left!
    So, mongrel bresh-BEAR spit!
  29. +1
    3 February 2012 22: 17
    Yes, block this idiot, gentlemen, moderators ... this is not a normal person ... I would like to discuss serious topics ... and he has a bawl
    1. Odesit
      0
      4 February 2012 00: 22
      And what, however, is bothering you to live ?!
  30. +1
    3 February 2012 22: 22
    Here, right Odessa ...
    to the extreme ... we will use the American article - a waver .... a waver ... well, we will ask the State Duma to pace to adopt such a law - a by-law ..
    and then grass doesn’t grow — hollow anyone you want, for a sweet soul ... we have such a law, you know, it’s verified ... it’s called - if you can’t, but really want to, then you can ... in any democracy there is such a law. ..
    Are we ... worse or what?
    Ira ... was attacked - and we, in our territory, for nothing, that the former - Alaska - with a viable charge, Vigorous - so that they remember the law ... then ...
    1. Odesit
      0
      4 February 2012 00: 33
      Iggar! We will live, but how they will think about their future is a big question!
      I don’t understand how you can so dislike your GREAT RUSSIA. to write such nasty things!
      There is not even a desire to enter into a discussion.
      Maybe I’m very tough on the issue, but there can be only one conversation with such types - either re-education or liquidation.
  31. Chukotka resident
    -7
    3 February 2012 22: 47
    Everyone reads and reads




    1. 0
      3 February 2012 23: 26
      I’ll tell you straight - some kind of obscure fueten.
      Well, stop littering "the boundless expanses of RusNet ..", plissssss, if they are so clearer ..
  32. 0
    3 February 2012 23: 01
    I already wrote about this ... I repeat ...
    Economy No. 1 in the world - it can be - Iceland ... not a dime of external debts ... No. 2 South Africa is an absolutely self-sufficient country, few draw in front of anyone, but according to the opinions of my friends it is very actively involved in Russian projects (especially regarding mining plant), it can be Germany - as an absolute producer ..., it can be France - ksak the most investment-demanding country ...
    and what is GYF - mired in debt for a total amount comparable to 1,5 - 2 of the cost of the entire planet Earth ... GYF = USA.
    You can’t live on credit - everyone knows. What happens - let's see. World bankers built everything very well - a bank - and here and there, brains - everywhere, muscles - here, threats - here. Everything is clear to everyone ... But if anyone decides that this is Israel, he will be mistaken ... The guys are also in the setup, without knowing it themselves. And there are a million Russians ...
    Who will answer? I welcome criticism .....
    1. 0
      3 February 2012 23: 22
      Some taarischi - suddenly saw in the collapsed economy of Iceland - ... fuy knows what they saw ... Icelanders said (well, their parliament, Riksdag, or something) - we are out, we are bankrupt, unable to pay our debts ... And then they issued it by the decision of the parliament ... !!!! Is it okay? .. Debts to whom ????, How much to pay ??? What percent ???
      Open the external debt of Iceland, open it .. http://www.km.ru/v-mire/2011/11/13/dolgovoi-krizis-v-evrope/islandiya-dolzh
      na-byt-v-novostyakh-ee-net-pochemu ..
      That would be like that, huh?
      1. Odesit
        0
        4 February 2012 00: 51
        All right, Igarr. The last thing they want to talk about is the real financial side of the issue, because it is not very attractive. It can frighten "exemplary Europeans", if they realize the depth of their bondage in which they have fallen, then this will shake the entire Jewish-American financial world! Based on juggling with exaggerated financial mechanisms.
    2. gor
      gor
      -1
      5 February 2012 12: 31
      Well, a Russian Jew will never become a Jew and will never become a Russian. They guys respect themselves and remember that they are the people of Israel.
      1. Odesit
        0
        6 February 2012 12: 22
        Go to the crematorium! Stand in the column one at a time! MARCH.
        CHILDREN OF ISRAEL!
        It’s a pity that you reptiles grandfather Hitler did not push up! SHAME OF HUMANITY!
        1. gor
          gor
          0
          6 February 2012 12: 40
          and somehow I’m not a Jew. Only grandfather Hitler and those like you crushed surrender. Since when did he become grandfather to you and how long have you developed Stockholm syndrome?
  33. +3
    4 February 2012 00: 50
    Guys! Learn the story!

    Russia is the only state that preserved the colonies conquered in the 17-19 centuries. England, France, Holland, Spain, etc. lost their colonies!
    But Russia has saved!
    But there are two points ...
    First, our colonies were inside ... Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Siberia, Turkestan, Bessarabia, the Caucasus, etc. You will laugh, but in the 17-19 centuries. it really was a colony! The difference from England and Spain was only in the fact that they did not have to sail on ships, but had to go in carts ...
    Second, (and the main one!) Russia never spread its colonies, but always tried to develop! In fact, the Russians brought civilization there, but, unlike the Europeans, they did not destroy either the population or the culture!
    In Soviet times, representatives of the colonies had even greater rights in the metropolis than the native Russian population.

    Some of the colonies in Transcaucasia and Turkestan were not conquered, but they themselves passed under the Russian protectorate. For example, Georgia and Armenia. They preferred the much softer Russian "occupation" to complete annihilation by the Anglo-Turkish alliance.

    States such as Estonia and Finland would never have appeared on the map if it were not for the Russian "occupation" of their territories as a result of the war with the Swedes!

    Ukraine, as a separate state territory, would never have existed if Hetman Bohdan Khmelnitsky had not persuaded Russia to "occupy" a part of the Commonwealth (Poland) and save the fraternal Orthodox people from the total genocide of the Polish gentry!

    Result:
    Russia is the only power that has retained the territorial acquisitions of the colonization period (17-19 centuries) ... true, part of the territories conquered by Russian blood is about ** l mu * ak Yeltsin.
    Europe formally lost all the colonies ... they are offended ... the Pindos themselves were a colony, they are doubly offended!
    Their historical task is to take the "colonies" from Russia! Separate Siberia, the Caucasus, etc. Drive us into the borders of "Ancient Rus".

    They fought their war with blacks and Arabs, now they want to quarrel with the Tatars, Chechens and Chukchi!
    1. Odesit
      +2
      4 February 2012 03: 08
      Dear Serge from 00. 50 minutes. today is still right.
      The Russian government has never been engaged in the destruction of the local nobility, on the contrary, most of the "native nobility" received both military and civilian ranks (as anyone wished) and served, while maintaining dominance over their lands and industries. Naturally, subject to the laws of the Russian Empire.
      Officers, immigrants from the noble families of the Caucasus, Turkestan, and the Trans-Caspian Lands, held the highest command posts in the RUSSIAN ARMY!
      Or at least one ship in the British Crown Navy was named after a vassal ?! Destroyer - "EMIR Bukhara"?
      But did this happen to be for example in the British Army ?!
      This is fundamentally different from the policies of England and France in their overseas provinces.
      We helped and help, if not for our help. then .......................
      1. gor
        gor
        -2
        5 February 2012 12: 27
        the difference is that the colonies that wanted to separate were separated and there were only those who themselves wanted to stay. show how familiar it is. ship
  34. +2
    4 February 2012 16: 04
    Quote: Resident of Chukotka
    I'd rather stick a bayonet

    hear the stump, but YOU CAN USE THEM ?, for example, the more I work with the knife, the more I understand that I am a sucker in this area :(
  35. +3
    4 February 2012 16: 33
    Guys! Give up on Chukotka, we all know who is someone, spend time usefully, write the truth about the Jews. You probably all read Pikul's book "Unclean Power", why did you forget this writer? Because he wrote the truth about the Jews. And on television there are only Jews, with different surnames, but completely Jews. Why?
  36. Roman0774
    +5
    4 February 2012 17: 34
    A goat from Chukotka: - you can continue to bark, we need pX.


    A little about myself - my father, a Ukrainian, from western regions. Mother Kuban Cossack. Our grandchildren raised us, grandchildren, and hereditary Kuban Cossack. She has seen a lot in her life - Gr.voyna, link to the Urals, HUNGER 32-33, collectivization, and in 37 g came at night - her brother was taken ... WAR, occupation. And after the war it was very hungry ...
    Naturally, we all knew this from the cradle - EVERYTHING to us !!! They said, Besides, my grandmother did not like it, I was a Nazi muzzle, ov, and Ukrainians, something like that, not very ... (this is the Kuban ambition, it is still in force!). And besides, all this was said in the "balachka" - kuban. dialect. Why, both my grandmothers spoke Ukrainian. Our cuisine is also appropriate - borsch, bacon, vareniki, dumplings ...
    Here's a "compote"
    But, to the question: - who are WE? (nat.) she always answered - WE ARE RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND DOT!
    From myself: OUR RUSSIAN LAND SPREADS FROM LVIV AND HORSE TO KAMCHATKA AND ANADYR!
    PRESENT UKRAINE IS A RUSSIAN LAND !!!!!!!!! I'M LEARNING THIS AND MY CHILDREN! And ", I am a Nazi muzzle, s" and "Ukrainians" - this is a small-town crap for the uneducated.

    PS - UKRAINE IS NON-REMAINING - THIS IS SHOW ???? THIS IS ON THE SHOVEL! LAUNCH IN CANADA,, DISSEMINATE YOURSELF RESIDENTS.
    In the event of a mess, I will beat the Bandera and other dicks with special "pleasure", without mercy and pity.

    it is necessary here, ka Ца п - turn in the Nazi face. Well done
    1. Odesit
      +2
      4 February 2012 18: 23
      ROMANO 0774
      I have not read such sincere, truly correct words for a long time.
      Thank you!
      1. Chukotka resident
        -4
        4 February 2012 21: 51
        Odesit,
        And such as you call - nationalities (national minorities).
    2. Chukotka resident
      -2
      4 February 2012 21: 50
      Roman0774,
      Clearly, the horde will not have time to rewrite the brains of all to their imminent collapse. And then - show you the real story.
  37. +1
    5 February 2012 07: 57
    Probably a little bit of everything will change for the better only when, in contrast to the Polish monument in Katyn, in Poland there will be a monument to our 135 thousand Red Army soldiers who were killed in concentration camps 1919-1922gg.
    1. pioneer
      +1
      6 February 2012 16: 08
      In Katyn, the Poles were shot by the Germans. Read Yuri Mukhin, he devoted research to this topic. He cites in another of his books a memoir from a German officer who spoke with a Polish officer after the capture of Smolensk by the Nazis. All of this was falsified under Humpback. Remember the last interview of the deputy Ilyukhin, after which he suddenly died.
  38. Isaev
    0
    5 February 2012 11: 57
    The Poles buried in Katyn defended their country. And what did the Red Army defend near Warsaw? Read Lenin. The ultimate goal of the war with Poland was the world revolution, and the first stage was the capture of Poland.
    1. 0
      5 February 2012 17: 58
      Firstly, 85% of these Poles just killed our Red Army men! And secondly, the soldiers near Warsaw didn’t come to eat free fries themselves, they executed the order like soldiers! And the rest 25% of the Poles, dressed by us and shod, instead of releasing their homeland in 1944 to Iran, were washed away!
      1. gor
        gor
        0
        6 February 2012 00: 59
        Poles defended their homeland and killed for their homeland after Germany divided Poland with the Union.
  39. gor
    gor
    0
    5 February 2012 12: 16
    it's actually stupid to call the size of the country and the number of peoples living in it a myth)))))))))))))
  40. Roman0774
    0
    5 February 2012 13: 37