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Syrian armed opposition refused to sign final document at meeting in Astana

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A meeting on the settlement of the Syrian conflict ends today in Astana. Recall that in the capital of Kazakhstan arrived the official delegation of the Syrian Arab Republic, led by the United States Permanent Representative to the UN, Bashar Jafari, and a delegation of representatives of the armed opposition, led by a member of the Jaysh al-Islam.


Syrian armed opposition refused to sign final document at meeting in Astana


There are reports from Astana that the armed opposition of Syria, represented by 15 by various groups, refused to sign the final document (communique). Information Agency TASS reports that representatives of the "opposition" have declared their refusal to put their signatures. According to the original plan, the communique after the meeting in Astana should have been sent to the United Nations for consideration. Representatives of the armed opposition, argued that the document allegedly did not have sufficient legal force to be considered in the UN. Who exactly was supposed to add a communique of such force - the militants, dressed in civilian costumes, were not informed ...

At the same time, representatives of the armed opposition stated that they would probably have put their signature on the document if they had "had the opportunity to familiarize themselves with the document in advance." What prevented them from familiarizing themselves with the document within two days of the Astana summit is also not reported. Or during this time, the armed opposition did not have time to receive precise directives from the curators regarding further actions?

It is reported that if a compromise is reached in Astana, the armed opposition will be ready to sit at the negotiating table in Geneva. Recall that earlier the Geneva summits on the Syrian issue were held without finding the “Syrian opposition” at the negotiating table.
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  1. Altona
    Altona 24 January 2017 14: 07
    +14
    Why then did you come to "negotiate"? If this shobla does not represent anyone except himself, then shoot them nafig, only in Syria. In general, it seems that these dolls do not represent anyone and only create the appearance of some kind of procedures. They apparently came to bargain some conditions for themselves bypassing the elections or something like that, in order to control a certain territory and not be responsible for anything.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 24 January 2017 14: 15
      +6
      Feel free to quote my comments yesterday:
      "In Astana, representatives of Damascus and Jaysh al-Islam sat down for the first time at the negotiating table"

      They sat down, but will they agree ...

      Sergei, I also hope for a positive outcome of these negotiations. But it is annoying that the ambassador is present from the mattresses. This one can shit in tea by "vkazivka" ...

      Not very happy ... A pity. Apparently, they understand only the position of power ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 24 January 2017 14: 21
        +7
        Pash, only one thing proves, there are government forces, the rest are rebels, terrorists and outright villains .. am to!
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Feel free to quote my comments yesterday:
        "In Astana, representatives of Damascus and Jaysh al-Islam sat down for the first time at the negotiating table"

        They sat down, but will they agree ...

        Sergei, I also hope for a positive outcome of these negotiations. But it is annoying that the ambassador is present from the mattresses. This one can shit in tea by "vkazivka" ...

        Not very happy ... A pity. Apparently, they understand only the position of power ...
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 24 January 2017 14: 22
          +5
          Dim, this is what I meant by "position of power"! am
    2. Pirogov
      Pirogov 24 January 2017 14: 17
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Why then did you come to "negotiate"? If this shobla does not represent anyone except himself, then shoot them nafig, only in Syria. In general, it seems that these dolls do not represent anyone and only create the appearance of some kind of procedures. They apparently came to bargain some conditions for themselves bypassing the elections or something like that, in order to control a certain territory and not be responsible for anything.

      Definitely shoot! They did not sign, but who are they? The people of Syria?
      1. Standard
        Standard 24 January 2017 15: 24
        0
        Quote: Pirogov
        Who are they? The people of Syria?

        They are precisely those who will have to do everything they sign.
        They just do not look like those Ukrainians who send Kuchma to Minsk in order to otmazatsya from the signed obligations.

        But why they (sir. Opposition) did not prepare in advance, this is strange.
    3. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 24 January 2017 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      They apparently came to bargain for themselves some kind of conditions bypassing the elections or something like that in order to control a certain territory and not be responsible for anything.

      Most likely so. They are bargaining, eastern people are very fond of portraying themselves as significant people and bargaining. This was to be expected at the first meeting, then they will gradually change their position.
    4. Amurets
      Amurets 24 January 2017 14: 20
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      In general, it seems that these dolls do not represent anyone and only create the appearance of some procedures

      Here you are right, what they create the appearance of some kind of procedure is the US policy. Do not think that if there is no US delegation, then these dolls will be sane. There is the US Ambassador to the Republic of Kazakhstan, so he is the "Overseer of the Almshouse."
    5. g1v2
      g1v2 24 January 2017 14: 25
      +4
      Those who went just represent a few serious groups. Of the large organizations there was a representative of Jaish al-Islam, and from 5 to 10 thousand slippers there. Another few groups on the wire were with them. In fact, these negotiations are not between the Syrian government and the militants, but between us and Turkey. The Turks have obligations to part of the groupings and they cannot simply abandon them without damage to themselves. Therefore, they drag them into negotiations. If the militants do not agree to any agreements, then the Turks can say that they did everything they could, and the slippers themselves are evil Pinocchio. request
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 24 January 2017 20: 06
        +2
        No. I think that the Turks are with the Iranians. The Russian Federation acts as the dominant force and superpower; and this is important influence in Syria, and of course good relations with the Kremlin. Without Moscow, these two countries would not have agreed on anything, and they would hardly have sat at the same table.
        The "opposition" has nowhere to go - they will roll like in Aleppo, and even howling to the whole West did not help. And then Trump happened - yesterday for the first time the Americans gave out targets to the Russians. It smelled "fried" for them, they should hurry up. But the Kremlin has nowhere to rush - in negotiations with Trump, Syria for GDP is a trump card - let the Americans be the first to make contact. So let the Iranians and the Turks, and the "opposition" with Assad, rub themselves in.
        The Turks are now in "debt" to the Russian Federation - a coup, an ambassador, an airplane, energy resources, a market, construction, tourists. So let the trust "work out". And their participation with Iran on the same side in these negotiations is part of the payment for all this, whether they like it or not. I would have ordered VVP Erdogan to abandon the opposition - it would not have gone anywhere, because the West wanted to remove it. But VVP shows mercy, wants to show the whole world how things are done correctly for the edification of the West. hi
        With the barmaley, everything is clear (and the United States will not help - even Hillary, even Trump; they will be "thrown" by the puppeteers in any case). If they don't reconcile, they'll roll it over. By the way, in Astana, on the sidelines, they say that "there is no point in fighting further" (barmaley) - that means everyone understands. They "went crazy" from Astana frosts and wind belay - some even arrived lightly. I wrote that it was necessary to "drive" them into the yurt in the nearby steppe. Give them matches with dung in a potbelly stove, and a walkie-talkie - so that they can get in touch as agreed. Everyone would have signed it in an hour or two. wassat
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 24 January 2017 21: 55
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          I wrote that it was necessary to "drive" them into the yurt in the nearby steppe. Give them matches with dung in a potbelly stove, and a walkie-talkie - so that they can get in touch as agreed. Everyone would have signed it in an hour or two.

          Loved it ...
          Most likely something similar happened. In the political sense ...
          Most interesting, how will they come back?
          They will obviously be asked what they have achieved.
          Perhaps they expected from Assad voluntary departure or concessions ...
          Western politicians have not been friends with reality for a long time, they can dream ...
          But the barmaley did not fall off.
          Left with nothing.
          I guess ... It would be better if they gave up ...
  2. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 24 January 2017 14: 10
    +4
    "Armed opposition" ... What words. Beast. They don't need any peace, and Syria doesn't care. How can you negotiate with a shark or crocodile?
    No, we’ll drag by the scruff of the neck, learn to hold the fork-knife. Ehhh.
    1. Standard
      Standard 24 January 2017 15: 27
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      to learn to hold a knife knife. Ehhh.

      Not at all necessary. Let them stop the slaughter.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 25 January 2017 02: 55
        0
        Quote: Norma
        Let them stop the slaughter.


        So it’s paid. The slaughter will stop when the shops are empty. And toss the cartridges to the bastards - the queue is worth it. Fin.sosku select - cattle scatter.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 January 2017 14: 16
    +2
    We fought for 5 years, and in two days to come to an agreement? This is not oriental. They will lose face. They are waiting - the results are waiting, according to Deir ez-Zor, according to El-Bab. And then after Aleppo their positions are "thin".
    1. Standard
      Standard 24 January 2017 15: 28
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And then after Aleppo their positions are "thin".

      But Palmyra, they’ll ruin it? Or not enough?
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 24 January 2017 14: 25
    +2
    Quote: Altona
    Why then did you come to "negotiate"? If this shobla does not represent anyone except himself, then shoot them nafig, only in Syria. In general, it seems that these dolls do not represent anyone and only create the appearance of some kind of procedures. They apparently came to bargain some conditions for themselves bypassing the elections or something like that, in order to control a certain territory and not be responsible for anything.

    Nothing. Now with the advent of Trump, YueSei will connect, for real. They will erase a couple of cities. Then the Syrian opposition will understand what Russia is proposing.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 24 January 2017 23: 13
      0
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      with the advent of Trump, YueSEY will connect, for real. They will erase a couple of cities. Then the Syrian opposition will understand what Russia is proposing.


      Just not that. Let the igil deal with the financing, the VKS and Assad will finish the shaitans. They will climb to fight - you won’t get problems from these sheep.
  5. Kibl
    Kibl 24 January 2017 14: 53
    +2
    And who would doubt that these rams came just to relax, wash themselves and at least once in their life wear civilian costumes.
  6. cheburator
    cheburator 24 January 2017 14: 55
    0
    Stop playing shit democracy! There is no one to negotiate with! The people in Syria, and these are shaitans! Soak to the last woman! am
  7. novobranets
    novobranets 24 January 2017 15: 12
    +1
    Or, during this time, the armed opposition did not manage to get precise directives from the curators regarding further actions?
    Or vice versa received, do not sign the document.
    At the same time, representatives of the armed opposition said that they might have put their signatures on the document if they had "had the opportunity to familiarize themselves with the document in advance."
    Kindergarten. Some kind of ridiculous excuses. Why the hell did they then go to Astana if they were not going to agree? Or the curators at that time had not yet decided whether to pee or not.
  8. Nicholas Gonzalez
    Nicholas Gonzalez 24 January 2017 15: 20
    0
    Whoever doubted, the outward Russians only hoped that in the end they would saw Syria on enclaves ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 January 2017 16: 49
      +1
      Quote: Nicholas Gonzalez
      Whoever doubted, the outward Russians only hoped that in the end they would saw Syria on enclaves ...

      What were you hoping for? The goal is to achieve a stable ceasefire and move towards solving the Syrian problem from armed confrontation to a political settlement. New Constitution, elections, etc. No one says that Syria will as a result be a unitary state. The option of federalization has been discussed a hundred times, but dumb-headed Americans with even more dumb-headed opposition see the solution to the issue solely in eliminating Assad. Well, they eliminated Gaddafi, and so what? Has it become good in Libya?
  9. maxim1987
    maxim1987 24 January 2017 15: 23
    0
    Lavrov once again poked his face in the shit. Shoigu come on bully
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 January 2017 17: 16
      0
      Quote: maximNNX
      Lavrov once again poked his face in the shit. Shoigu come on bully

      What does Lavrov have to do with it? The meeting was organized by Russia, Turkey and Iran. The world even saw the "opposition" in the face. The mattresses could not do this either, they got bogged down in shit to the very top. Either they cannot separate the "moderates" from the opposition, now they do not distinguish between the bearded and the "moderate", then they are delirious because they smoked cannabis instead of makhorka. And what should Shoigu give you?
  10. evil partisan
    evil partisan 24 January 2017 15: 59
    +2
    So we should expect an increase in airstrikes and active CAA actions on the ground. And so on until they sign and begin to carry out.
  11. alex-cn
    alex-cn 24 January 2017 16: 19
    0
    Nothing, it seems they agreed with the Turks, and if it works out with Trump, then in a few months the barmaleys themselves will run to sign anything ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 January 2017 17: 23
      +1
      Quote: alex-cn
      Nothing, it seems they agreed with the Turks, and if it works out with Trump, then in a few months the barmaleys themselves will run to sign anything ...

      Here it is necessary to settle the issue not only with the United States. There, Saudi Arabia, with Qatar and Bahrain, will balamute this opposition. If Trump, as stated, decides to really fight ISIS, then the interests of the USA and Saudis will already clash, and they are not weakly tied financially.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 24 January 2017 17: 45
        0
        With little desire, the United States will squeeze all this royal gang to the nail in a few weeks. Finance is still in America.
  12. krops777
    krops777 24 January 2017 16: 57
    +1
    What prevented them from familiarizing themselves with the document during the two days of the Astana summit is also not reported

    For two days it is difficult to learn to read and write. laughing
  13. alexleony
    alexleony 24 January 2017 17: 19
    0
    Arrest and liquidate. Maybe subsequent ones will be more negotiable.
  14. Disorder
    Disorder 24 January 2017 17: 40
    0
    Nothing terrible happened. This is the East, they like to bargain there. No one expected that an agreement would be signed. The main thing is that negotiations representing real power on the ground have gone to negotiations.
  15. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 24 January 2017 19: 18
    0
    If you do not want to sign, then you must recognize them as terrorists with all the ensuing consequences.
    “Jaish al-Islam” - these are natural terrorists, were and are such, there is nothing to negotiate with them at all. And they do not represent the opposition, but the interests of foreign curators, and therefore do not sign that they do not need reconciliation, only a war before the collapse of Syria.
  16. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 25 January 2017 00: 55
    0
    Crush all these terrorist bandits in all directions. Diplomatic, too.
  17. The stranger
    The stranger 25 January 2017 04: 36
    0
    To the Saudis, it seems it's time to go to the bar alla.
    Oil towers to pass to a competent director, or something ...
    So who is the head of the airfield in Eisk now? Please pass along.
  18. yuriy55
    yuriy55 25 January 2017 04: 49
    0
    While there will be loot, they will puff up, portray some kind of political force. Bypassing the law, the whole opposition going towards the achievement of its goals that are not indicated to anyone, either by destroying it, even burning its memory, or spread rot in closed gold mines in Africa, changing a kilogram of food per kilogram of gold ...
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 25 January 2017 07: 24
    0
    spirits stupidly pulling time, at the trump until the hands reached them, the Saudis were in dismay ...