Steel Queen dogs in the Syrian sands. Assad is waiting for the fate of Gaddafi?

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Steel Queen dogs in the Syrian sands. Assad is waiting for the fate of Gaddafi?


Exemption from Aleppo IG militants and their immediate colleagues from the so-called moderate opposition, in the literal sense of the word put on the ears of the entire Western world.



Major players of the Syrian party of anti-terrorist coalition so perenervnichal that went on to frank the risk by staging a hasty transfer of militants and a large-scale attack in Palmyra. We can not of course with full confidence that it is the United States directly with European allies organized a special march throw IG under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

But there are too many coincidences and inconsistencies in the "testimony" of true democrats. Be that as it may, the American units most likely simply let a man under Raqa and Deir-ez-zor shade their eyes at the right moment to slip past the almost inconspicuous grouping into 4000. Oh, the Yankees in this trick have always been unsurpassed masters.

As they say, all that was, then passed, and now it is clearly too late to wave their fists and pour groundless accusations. Asad won a serious victory after all, and even possibly turned the tide of the war. After all, Aleppo is indeed a kind of cornerstone of the Syrian state. It is now interesting to observe the consequences of this victory, and to try, without going into insanity, to predict further events. Although already this one smacks of frank insanity. The conflict in Syria is, for the most part, a completely unpredictable chaos, often incapable of logical analysis. How, in general, and any civil war.

The more in this conflict, outside stakeholders, the greater the probability of developments lines. In this case it is better to observe the directors most tragic acts of Syrian performance.

In this case, I want to talk about the UK. Moreover, London provided an excellent reason for reasoning on the topic, sending its "legionaries" to pacify the disobedient, but still tame opposition. As you know, messengers of the Queen arrived in Syria - 20 British military advisers. Their main goal is supposedly capturing their many wards from a wide variety of groups, united by the rather slippery term “moderate opposition”.

That is, in fact, the British came to the new gathering and rally to scatter the flock that they are still five years ago was prepared to overthrow the Assad regime objectionable, back into operation and to send all in the same direction. That is to say against the government troops.

Great Britain never hid its intentions and used the same methods here in Syria back in the 1922 year, after the League of Nations divided the Ottoman Empire and divided it between France and England. After the 20 years of interim struggle, the same advisers forced the Syrians to throw off the “French yoke” in 1945, so that after three years they would be squeezed by their protectorate. This game has many centuries, changing only the scenery and the society itself. But that's not the point.

The brave soldiers of the Queen of England, who almost a hundred years ago in the same places were called the steel dogs of the desert, arrived at the place with a completely transparent task - to form a new backbone of resistance. It would seem that everything is as usual, the empire weaves intrigues under the guise of the UN, hundreds of international organizations are smaller (forgive me for exaggerating). The high position of the guests is disturbing in this visit.

The Minister of Defence, Michael Fallon, said that the group comes instructors to train the rebels to renewed struggle with LIH. A minimum of facts and no specifics. But in the digital age it is difficult to conceal any information and in the media throughout the day, citing a source in the Ministry of Defense reported that the seconded occupy very high positions. The group even wormed a brigadier general with unlimited powers.

It turns out that London sent large lumps in a raid on the mountains and dunes to catch the surviving leaders of the so-called resistance. Somehow it does not converge. If we recall the long-established scheme of implementation and further work of military advisers of the West, the situation already looks doubly suspicious.

In any of the conflicts of the twentieth century, even the US and Britain adhered to rigorous (one they know why) traditions. First in the country selected victim, come agents of influence who are using low-ranking diplomats sway domestic politics and create ideal conditions for the crisis and the subsequent explosion. A little later, somewhere in the midst of the fighting has come officers, staff officers and even sometimes more or less large bumps.

At the end of the operation (conflict, war), the crown sends either a sweep group to conceal, if possible, too obvious traces of its participation in crimes, or a new crowd of officials in case of success and victory of the desired candidate. Very rarely, usually in some unusual situation, London can send a group of high-ranking specialists to prepare a counterattack and win at any cost. Something similar happened in Libya 5 years ago. After numerous unsuccessful attempts to remove Gaddafi by available methods, Britain went all-in and sent serious specialists to Tripoli, violating the UN resolution.

By the way, somewhere at the same time in the late spring of 2011, their less important compatriots just started working in training camps on the border of Syria, preparing the “Djebhat al-Nusra” and “Ahrar al-Sham” units for an early war. Here is such a symbolism. As you know, less than six months later, an angry and pre-prepared crowd tore up Muammar Gaddafi. Of course, it is impossible to insist on the involvement of the English group in this clearly planned murder, without having any serious evidence, but the coincidences are too obvious.

Again, I do not presume to say that Britain has decided to resort to extreme measures in its war against Bashar al-Assad, but the moment, in theory, the most that neither is appropriate. Western partners in the antiterrorist coalition got into a trap of Aleppo, and were at an impasse. The failed EU sanctions an attack directed against the Russian Federation, clearly demonstrated the helplessness allies patrons IG.

Washington is rapidly losing its position on the Syrian front, the UK flying into the same abyss. Loud and desirable public killing of al-Assad may be the only way out of this situation and will not allow to escape the conflict in the wrong direction. In any case, the White House and Westminster gladly resort to the favorite way of solving complex problems, just to correct the situation and to subordinate finally Syria.

Big wins often generate monsters, and Assad would be better to just think about their tactics in the new game.
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  1. +48
    19 December 2016 05: 40
    The fate of Gaddafi is, above all, the fate of the great Leader and Hero. And only then - everything else, everything that the enemies say maliciously.
    The fate of Assad, in this main sense, was almost equal to the great fate of Gaddafi. Only the finale of this story will be completely different. Stop defeating nonhumans, the limit on their victory is exhausted
    1. +3
      19 December 2016 11: 17
      Quote - "... Enough to win for nonhumans, the limit on their victories has been exhausted"
      ----------------

      "The great mother cannot be on someone's side, she maintains the balance of life" (quote from the movie "Avatar").
      As for us, earthly sinners, we must first of all hope in ourselves and not trust only in heaven.
      1. +7
        19 December 2016 13: 04
        Quote: One of You
        Quote - "... Enough to win for nonhumans, the limit on their victories has been exhausted"


        Do the nonhumans know about this? Judging by what is happening there, not everyone knows about the exhaustion of the limit, they continue to fight and are not going to surrender without exception ....
        Would you drink honey with your mouth ...
        1. +3
          20 December 2016 00: 05
          The main thing is that the bright side does not feel dizzy from the victory in Aleppo, but tense these heads in all convolutions, remembering that next to Aleppo there are tens of thousands of unfinished bandits, as well as throughout Syria, Iraq and Libya. And across the ocean and the strait, angry Anglo-Saxon tops are ready to sacrifice the whole world for their vile ambitions, sparing no one, even their own peoples.
          And the murder of the Russian ambassador to Turkey only confirms this.
      2. +2
        22 December 2016 22: 00
        Yeah ... x / f "Avatar" with blue-faced human-cats is still a manual of esotericism and worldview ... laughing You still refer to "Star Wars" with his ideology of Jedi and "lightsabers" ...
    2. +2
      19 December 2016 16: 30
      Quote: elenagromova
      Assad’s fate in this main sense has almost equaled the great fate of Gaddafi.

      Oh, if the Syrians could repeat the situation with the White House in Fashington in the manner of taking Amin’s palace !!!
  2. +6
    19 December 2016 05: 42
    Colleagues, no one has heard, maybe there are predictions that the Tin Islands awaits the fate of Atlantis? I'd love to.
    1. +13
      19 December 2016 06: 04
      Like "I saw a secret map of the General Staff yesterday and there is no America on it"?
      1. +13
        19 December 2016 06: 28
        No, the best enemy in style is a dead enemy.
    2. +15
      19 December 2016 07: 31
      Rumor has it that the Syrian tigers caught not only the steel dogs of the kingdom in Aleppo, but a whole pack in the basement laughing goals in two hundred different stripes. Now they need advice now and not the broads.
      1. +2
        19 December 2016 09: 14
        Did you see the capture video, no? I knew and will not see. Although if you really want to be able to find, then what really is not. The fact that they were there and helped is a fact, but these are people trained and prepared and it is unlikely that anyone could identify them ...
      2. +1
        19 December 2016 15: 45
        Several news agencies have already posted this news. They even give citizenship and last names with names. Only silence is here. The site seems to welcome pro-Western opinions. As if the peace of Russian-speaking people from Israel would not be disturbed.
        1. +1
          19 December 2016 16: 16
          What does this site? Just an accurate confirmation of the information is not yet in Syrian sources.
    3. 0
      22 December 2016 22: 03
      Sir, are you firmly convinced that many "sofa experts" are aware of where the Tin Islands are, even if the British Commonwealth is often called England? In this regard, it also touches me that when saying "states", people are sure that everything is already clear, forgetting that there is not only the North American United States, but the United States of Mexico, and Brazil too ...
  3. +5
    19 December 2016 06: 14
    Of course, it is impossible to assert with complete certainty that it was the United States with the European allies that directly organized the emergency march of the IS throw under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

    It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue tongue
    1. +6
      19 December 2016 06: 29
      In the world, nothing happens without the participation of the United States. This episode is no exception.
      1. +1
        22 December 2016 22: 04
        I’ll tell you a secret that a friend of mine recently gave birth to kittens. US involvement in this process seems dubious to me ... feel
    2. +3
      19 December 2016 06: 35
      Quote: Hello
      It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue

      No, of course, they are alone, in short dashes, for a month, millimeter by millimeter wassat
      1. 0
        19 December 2016 08: 57
        Really on two UDC American, as some recently claimed here ?! All 5 thousand belay
    3. +6
      19 December 2016 09: 06
      ALLO, you will not deny that the United States leads the Iraqi army, Iraq has no experienced commanders, and 47000 may well surround 6000. Or do Americans have no experienced military?
      1. +1
        19 December 2016 16: 03
        ALLO, you will not deny that the United States leads the Iraqi army, Iraq has no experienced commanders, and 47000 may well surround 6000. Or do Americans have no experienced military?

        He doesn’t lead, but tries to lead by giving valuable instructions. Unfortunately or fortunately, whoever you like best of all, it turns out they don’t have that much. There are too many different forces and everyone has their own interest. It turns out like Krylov’s in the quartet. You in Syria, too, is not all right with this hi
    4. +3
      19 December 2016 15: 50
      Mr. Allay, what did your fellow tribesmen and citizens of other countries, captured by the Syrians in Aleppo, do among the militants? Fight terrorism? You will certainly say that this is not true, prove it with facts, photographs, video filming. And that this is disinformation, "Blood libel" on a poor and peaceful Israel who alone confronts the evil Arabs
      Quote: Hello
      Of course, it is impossible to assert with complete certainty that it was the United States with the European allies that directly organized the emergency march of the IS throw under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

      It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue tongue
      1. 0
        19 December 2016 15: 59
        Quote: ivanov17
        prove with facts, photographs, video filming. and that this is disinformation, "Blood libel" on poor and peaceful Israel.

        Now I’ll just take a run and rush to prove by video shooting lol
        1. +4
          21 December 2016 20: 56
          Interestingly, between criticism:
          Hello:
          It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue
          , and excuses:
          Hello:
          Now I’ll just take a run and rush to prove by video shooting
          less than 10 hours have passed. Hence the question: only Israeli citizens are not obliged to prove anything in principle, while demanding video evidence from the rest, or are there still others like them? If so, who is it? fellow
          1. 0
            22 December 2016 22: 06
            Fuuuu! Piat laughing Taki Vi was clearly ahead of me in this formulation of the current question! wassat
  4. +13
    19 December 2016 06: 42
    Quote: Hello
    Of course, it is impossible to assert with complete certainty that it was the United States with the European allies that directly organized the emergency march of the IS throw under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

    It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue tongue


    We need to see who benefits from the turmoil in BV and the destruction of Assad. Oddly enough, BUT one of the first on the list is Izrail (who has had arrogant relations with the arrogance for centuries) with all the ensuing consequences here, not only for regional but also for world politics.
    We see it at the root, and there, as you know, Armageddon, where all the wars lead, including this Syrian ...
  5. +3
    19 December 2016 06: 58
    Quote: Hello
    Of course, it is impossible to assert with complete certainty that it was the United States with the European allies that directly organized the emergency march of the IS throw under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

    It’s impossible, of course, but just in case we’ll argue tongue

    "YOU" will not, of course, but we know where the legs grow from ....
  6. +4
    19 December 2016 07: 00
    the threat of the forcible elimination of Assad is really very high, it's a pity, but Syria does not yet have an effective "own" counterintelligence ...
  7. +12
    19 December 2016 07: 21
    A loud and desirable public assassination of Assad may be the only way out of this situation

    Behind them will not rust. But for five years they have been discussing this and it is possible that attempts were made, but something went wrong again. It remains only to wish Assad to live to a very old age in spite of all enemies.
  8. +9
    19 December 2016 07: 36
    These advisers need to be buried in the ground, and I would like to get acquainted with the igil in my territory so far.
    1. +2
      19 December 2016 13: 34
      Banishing liberoids
      Britain I want to get acquainted with the igil on their territory as yet.

      Already "getting acquainted", in May 2013 there was a demonstrative murder of a British soldier in south London by two Islamists. The geography of the island no longer rescues ordinary Englishmen from those with whom they are trying to "flirt" and direct the powers that be in Britain - any action causes opposition and it is not yet known what multiple force ...
  9. +12
    19 December 2016 07: 53
    Assad's army is too shabby. Aleppo has been taken at a great price. But this does not mean that they can keep him. The Americans and the British can again "catch" ten thousand "rebels" on social networks and direct them against Assad.
  10. +9
    19 December 2016 08: 53
    The Syrian state consists of dozens of shreds of different nationalities and faiths. Many of them really oppose Assad. Some are bribed, some take the moment to rob, someone needs to survive in such conditions.
    For Assad, certain groups are fighting, which have their own claims to certain groups in Syria. They do not spare them. The newcomers - Hezbola, Iraqi and Iranian volunteers (there is an army everything is clear, but there are also Afghan ones for Iranian money, they do not stand on ceremony to rob and not only) all this causes rejection among many in Syria. The situation is very complicated.
    To survive the state in such conditions, you need a strong army and the will to win. They are trying to create an army, but without a strong will, the soldiers flee at the first dangerous situation, throwing new weapons and equipment.
  11. +4
    19 December 2016 09: 04
    On the one hand, it is the Americans from the 15th day that destroy artillery, air defense, weapons depots and tanks near Palmyra every day, which no one mentions, abandoned by our and the Syrians during the retreat, incl. it sounds a little ridiculous if they didn’t do it, who knows what would happen to the T4 airbase. On the other hand, the Americans, with their special services, satellites and drones, should have been aware of the offensive, but decided not to burden our side with this information. Everyone has their own interests, the fate of the next maniac ruler is in our hands (or in the hands of chance), but on the other hand, we have no friends all over the world except Iran and Syria destroyed, and this is very sad (over the past few years we have ruined relations with Turkey, Ukraine, could not keep Cuba, Vietnam and Venezuela) ...
    1. +8
      19 December 2016 09: 11
      Quote: 231185
      besides Iran and destroyed Syria, we have no friends all over the world ... over the past few years, we have ruined relations with Turkey, Ukraine, and could not keep Cuba, Vietnam and Venezuela
      It seems that the concept of friends you have formed in social networks, and you are trying to apply it to geopolitics and are in sorrow. 97 friends in VKontakte - it's about something else, just a little bit.
  12. +1
    19 December 2016 10: 03
    Quote: EvgNik
    Colleagues, no one has heard, maybe there are predictions that the Tin Islands awaits the fate of Atlantis? I'd love to.

    Better let them stay ...
  13. +1
    19 December 2016 10: 18
    Quote: Volka
    the threat of the forcible elimination of Assad is really very high, it's a pity, but Syria does not yet have an effective "own" counterintelligence ...

    What is your confidence based on?
  14. +3
    19 December 2016 10: 46
    I wonder what the high-ranking officials captured in Aleppo will tell !!! ??? The Syrians do not even call ranks and names, apparently not lower than colonels. Christmas "gift" for Brit and Amers.
    1. +6
      19 December 2016 11: 50
      And what is so surprising in this captivity?
      The West did not hide the fact that they sympathize with the opposition. moderate, not very moderate, generally immoderate. The West did not even conceal that it was disposed against Assad and would help the "fighters" for "... bright ideals ..." of democracy and pedocracy in every way. The West did not even conceal that it would provide support. Any support. And as military advisers - so Allah himself ordered. And the queen mother.
      It's another matter, how did these last survivors of "pedocrats and demorasts" take and forget these advisers in the basement. I would not be surprised if the basement was blocked with something so that we would not get out in time. Moreover, the beacons were shuffled around so that the Chechen special forces would certainly not pass by.
      Apparently, the current Lawrences of Arabia and Shaw got all sorts of their "oppositionists" that they even decided to turn them over.
      And even Palmyra did not help. Ours decided that it was much more interesting to pick out these ... advisers, advisers ... from the cellar, and they picked it out.
      Well done.
      Now we have a double "weight" for trade in our hands. The first, that they caught these .... The second, that they were their own and surrendered.
      This is good news.
      Gift of course
  15. +4
    19 December 2016 11: 55
    To throw an infernal bomb into this bunch of English women would be a competent and politically mature decision.
  16. +2
    19 December 2016 12: 14
    Gaddafi with destroyed Libya has long been anti-Western icons, only the lazy does not poke the West with his nose at his own crimes. Well, with the right approach, "iron dogs" may well turn out to be quite digestible and cute animals, "The ball is round, the field is even" (c).
  17. +1
    19 December 2016 12: 15
    What victory does Assad write about? I would say that Assad is Yanukovych, who, however, did not run away, but the country is no longer there. Everything is just beginning and depends on the behavior of external players.
  18. +6
    19 December 2016 12: 31
    Gaddafi turned in Gorbachev and the drunk. Assad will develop Syria, it is only necessary to connect China to this process. I have the honor.
    1. +1
      19 December 2016 12: 54
      You still accuse Stalin and Khrushchev. That they "surrendered" Gaddafi.
  19. +1
    19 December 2016 12: 56
    Mr. Klimkov-at home must be present and meat snacks
  20. +1
    19 December 2016 13: 24
    "Big wins often breed monsters, and Assad would be better off thinking about his tactics in a new game right away."

    Assad at the very beginning of this mess had to declare that specific individuals from the leadership of Western countries (USA, Great Britain, etc.) can be calm for their lives, if only Assad will be calm for his own. Well, of course, confirm their anxiety and fear with any photos or files. Even it would be possible to bang a third-rate leader, to alienate the rest.
  21. +5
    19 December 2016 13: 27
    Of course, it is impossible to assert with complete certainty that it was the United States with the European allies that directly organized the emergency march of the IS throw under the cover of a dust storm and the subsequent capture of Palmyra.

    Why not something? Necessary!!!! Let them make excuses.
  22. +4
    19 December 2016 15: 14
    The Libyan story is very dubious for Syria, the time for "true" democratizers, in terms of organizing this, is not the same. The polarization of forces has already passed.
  23. +5
    19 December 2016 16: 17
    And what do the United States and their coalition do in Syria? They were invited to Syria, they were invited to Syria by the legitimate president of Syria, Bashar Assad? -No! They came there themselves, without invitation, violating the borders of Syria, invading a foreign state. Russia and the Syrians just need to destroy all uninvited people in Syria, simultaneously getting the UN to un-press all these uninvited people and demanding their withdrawal from Syria. Where is the logic? They were not invited to Syria, which means that if they do not leave Syria, they just need to be destroyed by the Russians and the Syrians. That's all. And then they climb like dung beetles that no one invited. They send their advisers, dogs .Yes to destroy them is the right decision. And they will stop climbing. Because they will know that they will be destroyed if they climb.
    Assad, of course, I think they’ll try to remove him. Yes, they’ve been trying to remove him all the time, since the beginning of the war in Syria. Only now, Assad has supported the people, otherwise he wouldn’t have run for so long. Besides, no one will remove Assad, if the Russians, Russia, will help him. Although, as an option for some special operation against Assad, I suppose some kind of special one. But you still need to get to Assad. And so, with the support of Russia, the Russians, no one has ever Bashar Assad he will take it away. Besides, the people for Assad, otherwise Assad without the support of the people, without the support of his officers, his army and people, would not have lasted so long, more than the Second World War. And without Russia, the Russians too. the Russians, Russia helped Assad greatly in the fight against terrorists. Assad himself, against such a large manpower of the enemy, could not resist. Here, just at the time when Assad asked the Russians, Russia officially invited Russia to help in the fight against terrorists Russians, Russia to Syria to help destroy the terrorists in Syria-if the Russians, Russia would have refused-Assad U SAME would be overthrown and all of Syria would be under the control of the Islamic State. And already the Islamic State would capture and begin to completely capture Iraq, then Iran. And then it would go to Russia, the Russians.
    If Russia itself does not surrender Assad and Syria, then no one there will overthrow Assad and will not seize Syria. And all the "terrorists" will be crushed into a cake. They will remain humus in the sands of Syria, and will go to eternal torment, to the shaitans for their Shaitan affairs.
    And all those who impose sanctions against Russia and support terrorists-Russians, Russia-need to cut off everything and cut off all supplies, or deliver-at such prices-that Russia in a year-was gold. For there is nothing to impose against the Russians, Russia-sanctions and to support all kinds of terrorists and to crap and taunt the Russians and Russia. And the United States will cut off all supplies. Many of which Russia will supply to those countries that have imposed sanctions against Russia. Some resources will be blocked, all of Europe will be scoured. And the United States will ship rare metals, molybdenum , uranium, space technology, and everything else. Let them sit on a barrel of gunpowder, set fire, and fly-fart into space, and not on Russian space engines in Russia. That's it. Quickly everything will become silk.
  24. 0
    19 December 2016 16: 18
    Assad is a symbol of the butcher and sponsor of international terrorism, fighting against his own people with the help of bayonets from abroad, drug dealers and murderers from Hezbollah and Ksir and other participants in the "Marlezon ballet". There is no reason to destroy him, rather the allies will slaughter him if necessary.
    Such "flags" as Assad are hung out only after the victory so that other butchers do not have to commit genocide of their own people.
    1. +8
      19 December 2016 17: 26
      It is a pity that the cons canceled
  25. +8
    19 December 2016 16: 31
    Quote: 1Markus
    Assad is a symbol of the butcher and sponsor of international terrorism, fighting against his own people with the help of bayonets from abroad, drug dealers and murderers from Hezbollah and Ksir and other participants in the "Marlezon ballet". There is no reason to destroy him, rather the allies will slaughter him if necessary.
    Such "flags" as Assad are hung out only after the victory so that other butchers do not have to commit genocide of their own people.

    Assad is the defender of his people and his country against the bloodthirsty aggressors of the United States and the West and all their saboteurs and terrorists of mercenaries.
    But the United States, their coalition, Britain and all those who climb into Syria without invitation are the bloody killers of the aggressors. Butchers. Some people commit the genocide of the people of Syria, destroy Syria itself and its citizens, bringing grief, tears, murders, hunger, death and ruin to Syria and the people of Syria. Here they are a symbol of genocide and death in Syria.
    And Assad and the Russians, Russia is a symbol of peace, goodness, justice and prosperity and protection in Syria.
    In such a way, 1Markus.
    Bashar al-Assad and the Russians, Russia is a symbol of peace and goodness, because Assad and the Russians, Russia-destroy the butcher terrorists in Syria, are fighting the butcher terrorists. And the United States and their coalition and Britain and all their allies support these killer butchers -terrorists and support the genocide in Syria, the destruction of Syria and the people of Syria.
    You-mixed up and wrote everything wrong! Got it?
  26. +4
    19 December 2016 16: 44
    And what will be the fate of the Allepinis of the Sunnis ?, the Shiites will simply cut them out, there is not just a civil war going on, but a war between faiths. Who organized this whole mess is another question, and now, first of all, it is necessary to protect civilians from terror, no matter who they are. Syria was the only Arab country that could oppose Israel in this region, it seems to me that all this is a Jewish project.
    1. +7
      19 December 2016 17: 26
      No one ever cut out simple Sunnis. Here the militants are yes, they killed and continue to kill on a confessional basis. Syrian army - never
  27. +1
    19 December 2016 16: 47
    The fact that "the White House and Westminster will gladly resort to their favorite method of solving complex problems" has always been relevant. Therefore, not only "Assad would be better off immediately considering his tactics in a new game," but Russia too.
  28. +2
    19 December 2016 16: 54
    Well, I would not compare with the fate of Gaddafi, but with the fate of Najibullah, the Afghan leader during the last period of the OCSV's stay in this country, one can compare. Already from the TV screens, statements of some of our "experts" have gone that there is a danger of "getting bogged down" in Syria just as they were "bogged down" in Afghanistan. Etc. etc. And if for some reason, whether internal or external, we leave Syria, then Assad's fate is predetermined. Now, however, it is fashionable to carry out "joint land development". In the case of a joint "liberation" of Syria with the Americans, Assad's fate is also a foregone conclusion. Probably, this scenario is in question, hence the recollection of the unfortunate colonel.
  29. +3
    19 December 2016 17: 09
    Quote: 1536
    Well, I would not compare with the fate of Gaddafi, but with the fate of Najibullah, the Afghan leader during the last period of the OCSV's stay in this country, one can compare. Already from the TV screens, statements of some of our "experts" have gone that there is a danger of "getting bogged down" in Syria just as they were "bogged down" in Afghanistan. Etc. etc. And if for some reason, whether internal or external, we leave Syria, then Assad's fate is predetermined. Now, however, it is fashionable to carry out "joint land development". In the case of a joint "liberation" of Syria with the Americans, Assad's fate is also a foregone conclusion. Probably, this scenario is in question, hence the recollection of the unfortunate colonel.

    "In the case of the joint" liberation "of Syria with the Americans, Assad's fate is also a foregone conclusion. Probably, this scenario is in question, hence they remembered the unfortunate colonel." - this will be a win for the Russians, Russia.
    Russians, Russia will win only in the case-1) if Syria remains intact within its borders. Not a single millimeter will not depart, will not fall off and will not break away and no one will snatch from Syria.
    2) If the Russians, Russia, with the Syrians, completely destroy all the terrorists in Syria. They will bring about the life of the people of Syria, civilians and peace and prosperity in Syria.
    3) If Syria joins the CSTO later. And best of all, immediately and voluntarily and at will, at a referendum of the people of Syria and with the consent of Bashar Assad, without aggression of the Russian Orthodox and without aggression of the Russian Orthodox, immediately and forever become part of Russia and The Russians, Russia — will put there its own Russian troops — as in their country — forever! So that no one ever attacks Syria and the Syrians, and that there are never any terrorists and saboteurs, and that the Russians, Russia, no longer send their soldier, guys, perish in a foreign state. Because with Syria’s entry into Russia will already be Russia! And no one will dare to attack Russia itself. And Bashar Assad will calmly and well correct Russia as part of it. And then they will elect and appoint a good Syrian leader in Russia. Because Syria, in this case, it will already be Russia. That's all.
    But only under such conditions, I believe that the Russians, Russia and the Syrians-WIN. If these conditions are met. Syria, the Syrians will live well and calmly as part of Russia, because they will be Russia. The Russians, Rossi, will not have to fly and bomb all kinds of terrorists and shaitans and ruin their Russian boys and guys in a foreign state. And they will put their Russian troops in Damascus and throughout Syria, where the Russians, Russia, will be most pleased and profitable , how much, where and what and how-will put the Russians and Russia in this case, their troops in Syria, which will be part of e Russia in this case .. Everything will be fine.
    Everything else is a defeat.
    Your options?
  30. il4
    +1
    19 December 2016 17: 21
    Bashar is not Hafiz, whom the people raised. Bashar, Ilham are just sons, they cannot be put on a par with Hafiz, Fidel. Chavez. It's time to look for him a replacement, bias or election. He himself already needs to think about it, and other sons who have inherited power as well.
    1. +7
      19 December 2016 17: 25
      he has already proved himself worthy. No one has endured so many years actually direct aggression.
  31. +3
    19 December 2016 17: 23
    Quote: il4
    Bashar is not Hafiz, whom the people raised. Bashar, Ilham are just sons, they cannot be put on a par with Hafiz, Fidel. Chavez. It's time to look for him a replacement, bias or election. He himself already needs to think about it, and other sons who have inherited power as well.

    And who will come? Pro-Western, pro-American-who will put the US military bases or build ISIS? Are you out of your mind?
    Save Assad, Syria, hold a referendum, hear and film on video and document the consent of Assad and the people of Syria to join Russia in the UN; take Russia; and put the Russian troops there forever. All problems have been resolved. Syria, In Russia in that case, peace and order. We won: Syria, the people of Syria, Russians, Russia. Syria and Syrians work quietly, sleep, go to work. Work and give birth to children. Russian, Russia also calmly put their troops across Syria, as it suits them and as Russian, Russia, because with the entry of Syria into Russia, Syria becomes Russia. And they also quietly guard their Russia, Syria, sleep and do their daily affairs and give Russian heroes the Cossacks. Because in this case, the Russians, Russia, do not need to send their boys to a foreign state every two years, such as to bomb these terrorists. Since Syria in this case, with the entry into Russia, is already Russia. And the Russians, Russia - placed on their territory Russian howl ska how nuno themselves Russian and Russia. And let anyone dare only napst at Russians, Russia, the territory of Russia. Instantly, it will be destroyed and crushed.
  32. +6
    19 December 2016 17: 42
    Quote: elenagromova
    he has already proved himself worthy. No one has endured so many years actually direct aggression.

    Yes, I’m saying it. Logic-turn it on. Without the support of your own people, it’s impossible to withstand aggression-superior in manpower, without the support of your people, your valiant officers and your army-NOT POSSIBLE! The war in Syria has been going on since 2011. Now, the year 2017 is about to come. This is more than the Second World War! WITHOUT the support of YOUR PEOPLE, YOUR OFFICERS, YOUR ASSAD SOLDIERS WOULD NOT KEEP SO. When did Assad formally ask for Russian, Russian help in the fight against terrorists in Syria? In 2015, if I’m not mistaken, the end of 2015, the beginning of 2016 ??? Well, this time is the second world already. By the time.
    And, of course, without the support of the Russians and Russia. Without the Russians and Russia, Assad would also have been removed. By this time, Assad would not have existed if Assad had not helped the Russians and Russia at the official invitation and the official request of the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Bashar al-Assad. Even with the support of his people. Because the supplied manpower of terrorists from other countries, in terms of the number of people, is more than the Syrians, the people of Syria.
    As there is already Yugoslavia, Libya. Am I wrong?
    1. +3
      19 December 2016 21: 32
      Not right, Al. Relight.
      Or right only in parts. Episodes and episodes.
      It is incorrect to call this massacre in Syria a war. This is swara. Troubles. Rebellion. Civil war, after all.
      It’s strange that they’re fighting somehow .... they fought here, they occupied the TERRITORY and calmed down. Everyone, no longer fighting, became a people's militia.
      And in another place they do not want to fight. Let the Tigers fight there. Of which a hundred Alawites will be typed. Personally devoted to Bashar.
      The situation is the same in Afghanistan. Constantly. For this valley, for this gorge we stand to death, we are Afghani. And for the next, rocky dead end, we will not fight - there ... Pashtuns, Hazaras, Tourmans, Gurkhas, Tajiks ... substitute as needed.
      This is not a war. These are tribal skirmishes. Where women are used directly, for their intended purpose, and all that with balls, balls, bubbles ... under the root.
      We need Syria. Holistic. It is advisable not to settle down under America, England, France. Therefore we are there.
      And a hundred years ago, EXACTLY HUNDRED YEARS OLD, Lawrence of Arabia, a colonel in the service of Her Majesty the Queen of England, was operating at full swing there.
      History repeats itself.
      But if the first time it goes like History ... then the next time - like a parody.
      Which we are observing.
      For Russia, the history of such Syria is written FIRST time.
  33. +1
    19 December 2016 19: 50
    Do not fall into the insanity of forecasts? Nah yes! And this, what has just been read by me?
    What it is?
  34. +2
    20 December 2016 12: 45
    it is necessary to trap and destroy the island’s zealots, any forces and means are suitable for such things, the methods of their elimination and mortification do not play a role, but it is desirable so that other diapers and panties would start to get dirty in advance
  35. 0
    23 December 2016 03: 07
    Quote: ranger
    Quote: One of You
    Quote - "... Enough to win for nonhumans, the limit on their victories has been exhausted"


    Do the nonhumans know about this? Judging by what is happening there, not everyone knows about the exhaustion of the limit, they continue to fight and are not going to surrender without exception ....
    Would you drink honey with your mouth ...
    The British have a good saying that explains their restlessness - "Do what you must and come what may."
  36. 0
    23 December 2016 04: 13
    Has the queen ever lost her lousy hat? It's time to throw in the mud!