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Why Russian migrants pointedly despise Russia

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Why Russian migrants pointedly despise Russia



In the comments to my posts in LiveJournal, newly created citizens of the United States periodically appear, sarcastically speaking out about the standard of living in Russia. From their point of view, there is nothing worse than the lives of ordinary people in the Russian Federation. And they believe in this nonsense frantically and selflessly.

However, in reality it is not. There are countries in the world where millions of ordinary citizens have their lives many times worse and harder than the lives of Russians. For example, such a country is the United States of America adored by all Ukrainian “svidomies” and Russian liberals.

This is evidenced by FACTS.

Many of us have become accustomed to old patterns and stereotypes. Some people enjoy life that way. But in fact, Russia has long been inconsistent with the gloomily-terrible image of twenty years ago, which is now trying to exploit the Western and Ukrainian propaganda. In the same way, the United States no longer corresponds to the bright and attractive image that was once created by American propaganda for foreign “Papuans”, and now it is constantly taking root into the consciousness of Ukrainian citizens.

At the moment, poverty in the United States reaches unbelievable proportions. It seems that this is why migrants from Russia demonstratively despise on social networks the “impoverished Rashka”, from which they once happily “dumped”. Otherwise, their migration is utter nonsense. And they cannot admit to themselves. Then they will have to admit the obvious fact that they themselves have flushed their lives down the toilet.

Let me give you 21 fact, showing a catastrophic explosion of rising poverty in the United States, indicating that a significant part of the United States actually lives in the conditions of the Third World countries.

Fact number XXUMX. According to the US Census Bureau, about 1 million Americans are currently living below the poverty line.

Fact number XXUMX. Every fifth child in America lives on a food stamp system, according to the same census bureau. The figure is for comparison: every seventh American child lived on 2 on this system.

Fact number XXUMX. According to Catherine Edin and Luke Schaefer, authors of the book “3 Dollar Per Day: Living on Nothing in America” (“$ 2 a Day: Living on Almost Nothing in America”), in America there are about 2.00 million households that day earn less 1,5 dollars. The number of such farms has doubled since 2.

Fact number XXUMX. 4 million Americans live on food banks. The line for groceries begins to form at 46 in the morning: people want to get food before food runs out.

Fact number XXUMX. The number of homeless children in the United States has increased by 5% over the past six years.

Fact number XXUMX. 6 million American children have spent the night at night shelters over the past year.

Fact number XXUMX. New York police have found more 7 special places for homeless people, the crisis of homeless people in America is now called an epidemic.

Fact number XXUMX. More than half of public school students are so poor that they cannot afford lunch at the school cafeteria.

Fact number XXUMX. 9% of American children live in homes that receive different types of financial state support.

Fact number XXUMX. A third of children in the United States live in families with incomes below 10% of the average income in the country.

Fact number XXUMX. In the ranking of the most affluent countries of UNICEF, which had a 11 position, the United States occupied the 41 position.

Fact number XXUMX. Since 12, the number of people living in the poorest areas of America has doubled.

Fact number XXUMX. 13% of African-American children live in areas of concentrated poverty.

Fact No. 14. 40,9% of children are raised by a single parent who lives in extreme poverty.

Fact number XXUMX. 15% 48,8-year-olds Americans still live with their parents.

Fact number XXUMX. 16% of US workers earn less per year than 51 30 dollars.

Fact number XXUMX. 17 million able-bodied Americans are "officially unemployed," and 7,9 million Americans do not work for one reason or another. If we add up these figures, then in total we get 94,7 million - this figure is equal to the number of able-bodied Americans who are not working at the moment.

Fact number XXUMX. If you own a house in America, then you are automatically referred to as the "middle class." Over the past 18 years, the number of Americans owning real estate is plummeting.

Fact number XXUMX. 19% of Americans believe that debt is an absolute necessity in order to survive.

Fact number XXUMX. 20% of Americans have a so-called "negative capital". This means that the total amount of what they owe exceeds the sum of what they have.

Fact number XXUMX. 21% of American families have so much property as 0,1% of other American families combined.

Migrants along with Native Americans, of course, can tell a lot about the fact that they are the best-off. But at least the fact that every second level of poverty among US citizens is growing like a cancer tumor, can debunk all the myths about the infinitely high standard of living of the liberal svidomitskoy "promised land."

The above facts are taken HERE http://www.prisonplanet.com/21-facts-about-the-explosive-growth-of-poverty-in-america-that-will-blow-your-mind.html
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 10 December 2016 15: 12
    +11
    Fact number XXUMX. The number of homeless children in the United States has increased by 5% over the past six years.

    And someone will say that in Russia homeless children are much more than any numbers from the USA, otherwise US citizens would not have adopted our children with such pleasure. Yes, to only 21 points in the article, I would add one more thing - this is the mortality of Russian children from any actions or omissions of American parents.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 10 December 2016 15: 31
      +57
      Quote: NEXUS
      I would add one more


      You can, of course, add even more, but why?

      And so it is clear, the article was prepared by a Russian sofa-patriot.

      I am sure that ALL OF US, our migrants far and savory do not care!

      Out of sight, out of mind!

      Let’s better understand your inner problems, and not draw attention to mattresses and gayrop people!
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 10 December 2016 16: 19
        +28
        He also planned to answer, you got ahead of me.
        I don’t give a damn (to put it mildly) to me at the Americans, savor their miscalculations, a flawed business. We must talk about our shortcomings, and solve them.
      2. SergeyZel
        SergeyZel 10 December 2016 16: 30
        +4
        I support for all 100 !!!
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 11 December 2016 06: 51
          +10
          Fact number XXUMX. 16% of US workers earn less per year than 51 30 dollars.

          Is it the case with us in Russia !!!!
          1. talot
            talot 12 December 2016 20: 06
            +2
            Definitely, with our average earnings, we are "richer" than any American! wassat
            it would be better if the author did not write this fact ...
          2. gringo
            gringo 14 December 2016 09: 43
            0
            that is yes. so then we all earn more than 150000r per month.
      3. 0255
        0255 10 December 2016 16: 48
        +30
        Quote: Titsen
        Let’s better deal with your internal problems.

        It would be good. But instead, we are told that everyone who claims internal problems is a liberalist, an agent of the State Department, the 5th column, etc. etc., and generally nizya slander our "tsars" and rock the boat, otherwise it will be like in Ukraine.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 10 December 2016 18: 27
          +8
          Quote: 0255
          0255

          exactly... drinks I treat ... yes wink
        2. sergeybulkin
          sergeybulkin 10 December 2016 18: 49
          +27
          But instead, we are told that everyone who claims about internal problems is a liberalist, an agent of the State Department, the 5th column, etc. etc., and generally nizya slander our "tsars" and rock the boat, otherwise it will be like in Ukraine.

          Here! I would very much like everything in this article about the United States (where, by the way, 300 million citizens, unlike the Russian Federation) about Russia. How have we in small towns completely destroyed health care i.e. completely, they call it "optimization", now they are going to "optimize" schools, what else are they optimizing? Cut the wires? Surely there is electricity in the village? Remember wanted to "optimize" commuter transport? Thank God the president intervened! Otherwise, many would walk now, like 100 years ago to the city on foot ...
          Tired of all this to hell! That about the country of dill continuously every day, now about the richest country in the world the crap is carried. Come on about our problems!
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 10 December 2016 19: 07
            +7
            Quote: sergeybulkin
            in our small towns, healthcare has been completely destroyed, i.e. completely, they call it "optimization", now they are going to "optimize" schools, what else are they optimizing? Cut the wires
            alas ... the bitter truth ... "optimization" -in the Urals, is a forbidden in a public place, a cynical, and immoral expression, for which, teachers and doctors, can give in m.o. rdu ... just to sound. ....
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 10 December 2016 19: 46
              +8
              I wanted to draw attention to the fact that most of those who moved to the states are not Russian at all
              1. Titsen
                Titsen 10 December 2016 20: 04
                +4
                Quote: Talgat
                I wanted to draw attention to the fact that most of those who moved to the states are not Russian at all


                Yes.

                Almost all lawyers!
                1. Mahmut
                  Mahmut 11 December 2016 07: 09
                  +1
                  What the hell is electricity in the village?

                  Horseradish in the village and grow without electricity. By the most horseradish will grow.
              2. Donhapa
                Donhapa 15 December 2016 10: 44
                +2
                Quote: Talgat
                I wanted to draw attention to the fact that most of those who moved to the states are not Russian at all

                Quote: Titsen
                Quote: Talgat
                I wanted to draw attention to the fact that most of those who moved to the states are not Russian at all


                Yes.

                Almost all lawyers!

                )))) lawyers are not simple ...)) as for the selection of "God-chosen", and even burr
          2. Kolya
            Kolya 10 December 2016 21: 07
            +24
            At $ 2 a day, those who do not want to work in the West live, and in Russia, those who want to work and work at $ 2 a day in Russia. But speculators, bureaucrats are completely corrupt, and outright bandits live in Russia much more prosperous. Most people in simple occupations receive 12-15 thousand ($ 200). Ominusvayu com services, interest on loans, an endless amount of certificates and expenses for their receipt, and it is good if $ 60 remains. So much for $ 2 / day for Russian hard workers. In Canada, inveterate homeless people go with trolleys stolen from supermarkets and usually collect tin cans. Usually what I see is a cart full. Jars are leased at 25 cents. The Russian hard worker by no means reaches their income. Homeless people, of course, drink everything because they are homeless and remain. And these homeless people can always have a free overnight stay and lunch in numerous churches and shelters.

            All these benefits in the West from the robbery of developing countries, including Russia. Russia is obliged to learn how to protect the person of work. Well, please do not listen to this incompetent lying Russian pro-oligarchic elite such as EP, who tells how good it is in Russia under their rule and continues to rob the hard worker.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 December 2016 07: 48
              +4
              The high income level of Canadian homeless people is the reason for the Canadian living standards ahead of the same rate in Russia! laughing The same homeless people, the same supermarkets, the same carts and jars ... they only cost 25 cents per kilogram.
              1. gringo
                gringo 14 December 2016 09: 48
                +1
                our homeless people in the best position we have kg cans costs exactly 1 dollar. and then we overtook them ah ha ha.
      4. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 10 December 2016 17: 05
        +9
        Quote: Titsen
        it’s better to deal with your internal problems, and not to draw attention to mattresses and gayropic people!

        But a reliable assessment of what we used to consider ideal only some 25 years ago will help us not to be mistaken in the future. And so everything is true, the solution to all our problems lies in us, all the forces and means for this are within us.
      5. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 10 December 2016 19: 38
        +12
        Quote: Titsen
        And so it is clear, the article was prepared by a Russian sofa-patriot.
        Who didn’t even bother to properly filter the facts! Do not believe? - In vain! Here is an example of fact number 16:
        51% of American workers earn less than $ 30 annually.
        Is this good or bad? Let's count:
        - 30: 000months = $ 12 per month.
        - the dollar exchange rate is about 65 rubles for $ 1.
        Then we get: 2 500х65rub = 162 500 rubles per month !!!
        And this is with an average RFP of 36,2 thousand rubles in the country! (Kaliningrad region - 28,8 thousand rubles, but I met a few of these workers in Baltiysk!)
        So it turns out that 4,5 times more than ours.
        But he didn’t bother to compare prices ...
        Thus,
        Quote: Titsen
        ALL OF US, our migrants far and savory to spit!
        Let’s better understand your inner problems, and not draw attention to mattresses and gayrop people!
        In my opinion, you can’t say better! good
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        2. ILDM1986
          ILDM1986 10 December 2016 22: 55
          +21
          Boa constrictor KAA, in general, this is understandable, but not so simple. In the United States, unlike in the Russian Federation, the salary is "dirty" - that is, you are charged money, and you already deduct all taxes - both on profit (on a progressive scale), medical insurance, contributions to the pension, etc. An apartment or a house is almost always in a mortgage or rented, since the place of residence determines your social circle. your children's education, career development, etc. - accordingly, everyone who is interested in improving the quality of life is trying to crawl into the most elite quarters, otherwise there is no way. The same is with the car, leisure, etc. Also, in the Russian Federation, you can make repairs for yourself - in the USA you will be closed for trying to change the faucet in the kitchen, because you do not have a plumbing license (and good people will snitch - this is the norm there), respectively, you will hire those who have it ... Medicines are sold only by prescription (and medical consultation is paid if there is no insurance), just go in and ask for antibiotics will not work. And after deducting all the costs, it turns out not so much. Perhaps more than the average Russian citizen, but not fundamentally more. In reality, it turns out that with many seemingly large salaries, a significant part of US citizens are interrupted from paycheck to paycheck.
          And of course, I cry at night, thinking about poor, hungry Americans, but our Russian problems are nevertheless closer to me. I’m not interested in how much doctors and teachers in the USA get — I’m interested in why they get a penny in the Russian Federation and the quality of medical care and education is getting lower and lower, why instead of indexing, pensioners are given a miserable one-time allowance, while heads of government agencies have tens of millions of salaries. rubles. Where, in the end, is the promised import substitution. I care about the economy of my country, not the USA!
        3. bars876
          bars876 11 December 2016 03: 31
          +13
          And now, from these 2500, calculate all taxes, all insurance and goofy .... I don’t know how in America, but in Germany, acquaintances live, from 2100 euros, the salary of an engineer, he gives 54 percent of taxes ... How much is left? ??))) With our money ...))) 70 thousand rubles ..... I have such a white salary now ... Now let's go further ... Clothing and products are the same ... This is a fact ... But , housing and communal services are expensive, in the winter they’re buying a house on the other ... And in the winter I pay only 6 thousand for everything ... Plus they rent, but I have at least two rooms, but mine is already not on credit for a long time))) So who of us lives better ??? And tell us about their fines, or if you suddenly delay the payment, what will happen? What at home you yourself can’t do or what, but I have to call the service ??? So we are not in paradise of course, but you need to know how they live in rich countries)))
          1. sergeybulkin
            sergeybulkin 11 December 2016 16: 52
            +4
            And what about their fines, or if you suddenly delay the payment, what will happen? What at the house you yourself can’t do or what, but should I call the service ??? So we are not in paradise of course, but you need to know how they live in rich countries))

            Come on, we heard about the insanity laws and the high cost of housing and communal services in the west, about the fact that there we have to pay for every sneeze we also need. BUT wait a bit and soon we will have exactly the same, do not hesitate!
      6. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 10 December 2016 19: 43
        +15
        Quote: Titsen
        You can, of course, add even more, but why?
        And so it’s clear, the article was prepared by a Russian sofa-patriot ..................... Let’s better understand our internal problems, and not draw attention to mattress-striped and gayropic people!

        Come on! Immediately diagnosed "couch patriot", as soon as the question touched the "untouchables" i.e. US citizens. Of course, everyone will deal with their own problems, but there are too many of those who, 24 a day, purposefully engage in self-flagellation and appeals to Russians to repentance.
        The author, whom you so hastily "divanotpatriotili", so as not to be unfounded and not be caught in bias, gave a link from where he drew the data on the article. Walk through it and "rejoice" that the mentioned resource has nothing to do with either the author or Russia.
        1. Titsen
          Titsen 10 December 2016 20: 12
          +6
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Walk through it and "rejoice" that the mentioned resource has nothing to do with either the author or Russia.


          In that reference flock, many facts were rigged or far-fetched !.

          Transfer at least the salary indicated there to the average mattress in our rubles - and it will be like in a song: YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING AND SEE EVERYTHING YOURSELF!
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 10 December 2016 22: 39
            +12
            It is impossible to correctly compare salaries without a meticulous analysis of the structure of prices and expenses for people and payments on loans. This is the same as comparing a thick, but recumbent with a small but erect, And in absolute terms, an example where is how impressive.
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 10 December 2016 23: 10
              +3
              Quote: St. Propulsion
              Salary cannot be compared correctly

              As much as possible. There are such statistical concepts - "consumer basket" and "purchasing power". You've probably heard.
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 10 December 2016 23: 13
            +4
            Quote: Titsen
            Transfer at least the salary indicated there to the average mattress in our rubles - and it will be like in a song: YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING AND SEE EVERYTHING YOURSELF!

            And then bring the American prices. And do not forget, almost 100% of Americans have loans, and not one at a time.
            Quote: Titsen
            YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING AND SEE EVERYTHING YOURSELF!
            1. Titsen
              Titsen 11 December 2016 22: 05
              +2
              Quote: GSH-18
              And do not forget, almost 100% of Americans have loans, and not one at a time.


              So do not take loans!

              On the other hand, we would have loans under such interest rates as theirs, and we would all be in loans!
    2. Alexrok
      Alexrok 10 December 2016 15: 33
      +15
      Mostly HEALTHY children with fake medical documents are exported from Russia!
      You must understand what is behind this: exporting the FUTURE of the country!
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion 10 December 2016 16: 39
      +2
      The phenomenon that took place in the Russian Federation is 90. That's just not observed now.
    4. cte-power
      cte-power 10 December 2016 19: 12
      +2
      can you give figures about the mortality of Russian children
    5. Awaz
      Awaz 10 December 2016 19: 16
      +19
      I will tell you, as a person who has dealt with the topic of adoption of children by foreigners, I will tell you that in Russia, as indeed in any country 3-4 in the world, scum comes to adopt a white child on the cheap. Percent 80 -90 are adopted, only in order to receive subsidies and discounts from the US authorities for this (well, as an example) In the same USA, it is difficult to adopt a white child (I will say it is even very difficult) even for a family with an income above average, but The costs of having such a child in the family are enormous. There are discounts for the education of their children and discounts on medical insurance for all family members, etc., etc. Therefore, those who are not allowed to adopt at home have traveled to Russia before. Here for the loot, they prepared children. They cooked stupidly: they simply attributed heaps of all sorts of ailments to potentially "corrupt" children at each commission. As a result, it looked to the press that the Americans were taking away only the sick from the Russian Federation. BUT in reality the children were perfectly healthy. You will remember all the cases of death of Russian children in American families. Were there children with serious illnesses? Yes, never ... Although I know cases when Americans adopted really sick children. But this is sooo rare and only because they did not get into the criminal network of Russian orphanages where the process of selling children was put on stream. Generally a fool. Although the system has been tightly tightened recently, does he know how everything is in reality
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 11 December 2016 08: 04
        +3
        A vivid example of this is poor Angelina Jolie, who is forced to collect trapped children all over the world in order to receive ends, at least somehow make ends meet crying
        1. Awaz
          Awaz 11 December 2016 10: 16
          +6
          and don’t jerk. For adopted children, there are such gesheft ... She has not bad incomes, I would say huge, but more than half also pay taxes for this. Children also allow you to not pay part of the taxes and even their presence allows you to have medical insurance (in her case) in general, probably free. Also, children then study at the expense of the state or pay most of the state. This is a very profitable business in the USA.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 11 December 2016 22: 01
            0
            And I don’t jerk. In the case of Jolie, this is a hobby, not a business.
    6. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 10 December 2016 21: 49
      +11
      "Why do Russian migrants demonstratively despise Russia"

      This is most likely an excuse for your own petty deed, somewhere on a subconscious level. It's just that overestimated self-esteem breaks down on the harsh reality - no one needs you there. It did not take place abroad, but after all, life in Russia is disgusting! All that remains is to nurture their psychological complexes and scold the former Motherland.
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 10 December 2016 22: 03
      +3
      Why Russian migrants pointedly despise Russia

      This is their choice. But such loser collaborators were ordered to go home.
    8. Philip Staros
      Philip Staros 14 December 2016 18: 31
      0
      Well, I don’t know how many street kids in the USA. But I know that in Russia the peak has been passed a long time ago and those children who lived in orphanages are almost completely disassembled by (RUSSIAN) foster families. The truth is basically something like family orphanages and not adoption - in this case, the state gives money for the maintenance of children. But in "state-owned houses" children are, basically, only while they are registered in families. Especially if they are not teenagers and not disabled.
  2. demiurg
    demiurg 10 December 2016 15: 30
    +24
    We need to rejoice that we have gotten better, and not that others have gotten worse. Do not be like Svidomo.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 10 December 2016 16: 29
      +14
      I agree with you completely. There is one fact and it outweighs the others - the standard of living there is much higher than ours. And if someone started to feel worse there, you should not rejoice. To the author. Most of the facts presented relate to Russia, unfortunately ...
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 10 December 2016 22: 06
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        I agree with you completely. There is one fact and it outweighs the others - the standard of living there is much higher than ours.

        Please do not confuse the income difference with the standard of living. In addition, no one for some reason does not take into account the level of expenses in such comparisons due to the corresponding price level in the USA request
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 11 December 2016 08: 22
          +2
          Everyone constantly confuses the standard of living and income. A vivid example: a cat eating canned food from a rabbit and its owner, absorbing dumplings from soy
    2. Senior manager
      Senior manager 10 December 2016 22: 46
      +1
      Absolutely to the point. And after all it becomes visibly better around, only the lame or sick one sees the imperfections, like a shitty mother-in-law - I don’t know how, it’s still not so!
    3. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 11 December 2016 08: 12
      +1
      So this is the national formula for personal success: the best news is not that your cow has calved, but that your neighbor has died.
  3. izya top
    izya top 10 December 2016 15: 32
    +19
    Why Russian migrants pointedly despise Russia
    because it’s a shame to admit that they were scamming. Dreams turned out to be far from reality — no one greets joyfully, does not put dollars and euros in his pockets.
    in short, a solid raid, like our nebrats
    1. RASKAT
      RASKAT 10 December 2016 16: 18
      +10
      Yes, most of them are paid corny for watering our country with slop.
      I’m sitting here watching a video just in topic, the truth about Israel, but from the same opera.

      Just an example of a democratic country.
  4. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2016 15: 36
    +3
    Something from the USSR breathed ... "a ghost wanders ..." Yes, certainly like in that anecdote our "ghost", but wanders anywhere ...
  5. Strength
    Strength 10 December 2016 15: 48
    +9
    This propaganda resembles this:



    And so most of these points are suitable for Russia, not the United States.
    1. 0255
      0255 10 December 2016 16: 38
      +6
      Quote: Force
      And so most of these points are suitable for Russia, not the United States.

      Right now, fans of poverty, totalitarianism and mass executions will justify us that the North Korean program personnel is the pure truth, the truth and nothing but the truth laughing laughing
    2. Philip Staros
      Philip Staros 14 December 2016 18: 33
      0
      So after all, the fact that they are "suitable for Russia" is not a secret for Russians. But the fact that they "approach" the United States is news to many.
  6. mivmim
    mivmim 10 December 2016 15: 49
    +3
    Liked the expression
    Newly made U.S. citizens
    laughing
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 10 December 2016 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: mivmim
      Liked the expression
      Newly made U.S. citizens
      laughing

      Or, in other words, "unfinished citizens of Russia and other countries of the former USSR"
  7. Lumumba
    Lumumba 10 December 2016 15: 53
    +1
    Why Russian migrants pointedly despise Russia


    The reasons, detailed and exhaustive, are analyzed here:
    http://ruxpert.ru/Тексты:Трогательная_история_пор
    Petra
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 10 December 2016 15: 54
    +4
    And man is inherently eternally dissatisfied with creation, and, parts of us are always and everywhere bad, and, as psychologists say, this is quite normal
  9. kouldoom
    kouldoom 10 December 2016 15: 57
    0
    because they were wiser
  10. blind
    blind 10 December 2016 16: 10
    +18
    the most interesting thing is that those who are settled there do not pour slops to their former homeland, but simply work. but losers, whiners and parasites are trying to make excuses with the help of a shit
    1. izya top
      izya top 10 December 2016 16: 13
      +3
      Quote: blind
      those who are well settled there do not pour slops to their former homeland, but simply work. but losers, whiners and parasites are trying to make excuses with the help of a shit

      yes that's for sure. the whole problem is outlined in two sentences hi
    2. Boris Zhitkovsky
      Boris Zhitkovsky 10 December 2016 16: 18
      +4
      But tell me, this applies only to new US citizens. And then new Israeli citizens also fit this definition perfectly.
  11. vanavatny
    vanavatny 10 December 2016 16: 15
    +5
    hmm, I know that in America it’s bad and the blacks are beaten and words cannot convey how much I do not care ... everything, of course, is understood by comparison, but I am alarmed by the tendency that some growth in Russia seems to be such only due to some kind of negative where where we don’t exist, thank you for the digital, I suppose that one can strangle oneself from our statistics, maybe everything’s collapsing there, but we don’t run uphill either ... but the difference between the majority of migrants and what I don’t always see betrayal: I’ve dumped Nicodemus and hell with him, although the state could have thought of a brain drain - entire industries have been destroyed, and not the locksmiths are leaving
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 10 December 2016 20: 13
      +4
      I have a familiar lady professor in the States. Receives fast 20 thousand dollars a year. In Russia there was a sick child and a husband who left her ... with a sick child. They didn’t treat here. I went there, got a job at the university, got PhD, benefits for training, for treatment. Put the child on her feet! Work: 1 lecture + two seminars per week. I have about the same load. But it’s better not to talk about salaries. This is not comparable.
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny 10 December 2016 21: 51
        +3
        ehh Homeland ... that’s why I tried not to smear everyone with strictly black and white, mentioning the state’s idiotic attitude towards people for whom the lives of their children are more important than loyalty to a broken empire, everything is very complicated: thousands and thousands of personal tragedies amid the collapse of faith, ambitions , the future, the past ... it's just that I am the way I am and it’s hard for me to relate to those who left in search of a better life, such as officers taking the third oath: well, it really happened the way it happened — it's just that the precipitate caused by education remains hi
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 11 December 2016 08: 39
        0
        College teacher in St. Petersburg. One and a half load - 30 hours a week + a bunch of paperwork. The income is $ 10000 per year. A small nuance - the college should be a municipal subordination, not federal. Source: wife.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 12 December 2016 19: 58
          +1
          St. Petersburg, doctor, 16 years of experience, 1,75 rates - $ 1000 "dirty" per month. And this is still very good.
      3. bacr
        bacr 14 December 2016 08: 17
        +2
        In our USA, for 20 thousand a year you can live either as a graduate student in a subsidized communal flat or a homeless man under a bridge. Medical insurance per year for a family of 4 people is 20 thousand a year, if you are not a state employee. Professors in the USA do not receive 20 thousand, but much more, but also have a much higher load. School teachers receive up to taxes from 50 thousand per year + benefits and cheap insurance. Wandering professors (homeless professors) in fence-building universities receive 20 thousand a year.
  12. 0255
    0255 10 December 2016 16: 30
    +16
    Fact number XXUMX. According to the US Census Bureau, about 1 million Americans are currently living below the poverty line.

    And in Russia, how many citizens live below the poverty line?
    Fact number XXUMX. In the ranking of the most affluent countries of UNICEF, which had a 11 position, the United States occupied the 41 position.

    But did the CIS countries find a place in this list?
    Fact number XXUMX. 16% of US workers earn less per year than 51 30 dollars.

    In Belarus, salaries generally fell to $ 150-200, which is also less than $ 30 per year. So who lives poorer?
    I know many who have relatives from a stable and prosperous Belarus who have left for the rotting, unspiritual USA - for some reason none of them wants to return to Belarus request
    1. cap
      cap 10 December 2016 17: 07
      +4
      Quote: 0255
      And in Russia, how many citizens live below the poverty line?


      No one hides it. Without comment.
      The poverty level in Russia in 2015 increased to 13,4% and became the highest since 2008, then it also amounted to 13,4%, follows from the data of the Federal State Statistics Service.

      The number of poor in Russia last year increased to 19,2 million - immediately by 3,1 million people compared to a year earlier. This figure has become the highest since 2006, when the number of poor was 21,6 million. The data are preliminary and are given without taking into account information on the Crimea and Sevastopol, Rosstat clarifies.
      http://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2016/0
      3/21/634439-uroven-bednosti
      1. Strength
        Strength 10 December 2016 18: 01
        +3
        13,4% are those who earn below the subsistence minimum of 9956 rubles, you yourself understand what kind of money it is. Pensioners are not included here. And how many who earn up to 15000. Real numbers are about 7000000 people. Salaries in the USA can be viewed here, but if you are not a citizen, this will not apply to you.
        1. Strength
          Strength 10 December 2016 18: 53
          +1
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%BD%
          D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%
          D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%BE%D0%BF%
          D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B_%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%
          D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A8%D0%90
        2. Strength
          Strength 10 December 2016 19: 11
          +1
          Wrong 70000000
        3. bars876
          bars876 11 December 2016 03: 56
          0
          And now let's take into account another chip, you know why it grew and how? These 13,4% ...))) These are those who apply for the subsidy .... And you know why they do it, they want to pay half the price ... And now let's remember about the salary in envelopes, we get half the country .. .))) I have a beggar-type store floor, and the second half, like me, is too lazy to draw up these pieces of paper ... But in fact, everyone has more than 50 rubles in salary ... And those who earn 15000 rubles either get lazy people or everything suits them .. .))) I have all the familiar girls who do not earn less than 30 thousand without really straining, and who strains 50 or more ... So no need to write crap here about the salary)))
          1. Strength
            Strength 11 December 2016 12: 15
            +1
            What the hell are you writing here. Pensioners and children also earn in envelopes? Where do you live?
            1. INTA_VEGA
              INTA_VEGA 12 December 2016 00: 49
              0
              Quote: Force
              Senior Citizens ...

              All some poor people call pensioners ... and in the news they constantly say that 150 were stolen from one old man, 000 from another, I don’t understand how it turns out.
              Of all the pensioners, my mother-in-law only has about 9000 rubles. receives, and then because she has a working experience of about 15 years in total.
              Okay, parents, they are both military pensioners, a special category. But for the rest of the relatives - not a single old man below the poverty line.
              Quote: Force
              Pensioners and children also earn in envelopes?

              Do not fold all under one comb.
              Now there are pensioners who earned in envelopes. they live from interest from the accounts and from the rental of property.
              Children on YouTube earn more than many visitors to this site. From the age of 14, he worked part time at the plant and is not sure that this money was taken into account in official statistics)
              So the person wrote the case, and you accuse him unfoundedly. Is s / n in envelopes taken into account in statistics? and bribes to officials and offshore dividends?
              Russian official statistics cannot be assessed in principle due to the general "grayness" of the economy.
      2. True
        True 14 December 2016 09: 50
        +1
        The poverty level in Russia in 2015 increased to 13,4% and became the highest since 2008.
        These are those who are less than 150 sput. earns a month? .... And if you calculate the costs? How often do Americans travel, change cars, durable goods?
    2. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 10 December 2016 17: 33
      +12
      Quote: 0255
      And in Russia, how many citizens live below the poverty line?

      this is not a big problem! poverty criteria are different, someone has liquid soup, and someone has small pearls!
      1. cap
        cap 10 December 2016 18: 57
        +2
        Quote: Dan4eG
        this is not a big problem! poverty criteria are different, someone has liquid soup, and someone has small pearls!


        Odessa. KGB. Abram at the "conversation".
        -Why do you write to your brother in Israel that the chicken on the import began to cost 10 rubles? Write that the elephant costs 5 rubles. Do you understand everything?
        - clearly the citizen is the chief.
        The next letter again falls into the organs.
        Abram writes:
        -... dear brother I live as before in Odessa, I eat as usual from the import, prices have fallen completely, you won’t believe the elephant costs 5 rubles. But why do I need an elephant with its trunk and tusks, I’d better add 5 rubles and buy chicken.
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 10 December 2016 22: 14
        +1
        Quote: Dan4eG
        poverty criteria are different, someone has liquid soup, and someone has small pearls!

        good I completely agree with this yes
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 10 December 2016 19: 05
      +3
      Quote: 0255
      relatives from stable and prosperous Belarus left for rotting, spiritless USA

      Poor relatives, in America, after all, rat children eat, would remain in prosperous Belarus ...

      In general, propaganda works here and there, the main thing is to have brains and not to make mistakes.
      1. 0255
        0255 10 December 2016 19: 22
        +4
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: 0255
        relatives from stable and prosperous Belarus left for rotting, spiritless USA

        Poor relatives, in America, after all, rat children eat, would remain in prosperous Belarus ...
        In general, propaganda works here and there, the main thing is to have brains and not to make mistakes.

        This is how Russian propaganda repeats the Belarusian model of the "zero". I remember when I was studying at the university, a teacher on "Fundamentals of the ideology of the Belarusian state" told me how stupid Balts destroyed Soviet factories, converted them into shopping centers, but did not say that the same thing was happening in Belarus.
        Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, LDNR - we have one problem, thieves in power who do not care about the people.
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 10 December 2016 19: 44
          +4
          Quote: 0255
          "Fundamentals of the ideology of the Belarusian state"

          Well, you have at least some kind of ideology, well, there, for example - "Lukashenko forever", even, probably, textbooks were published, at least you can read it, but here, it is the saving of the Russian people, then patriotism, and now competitiveness and import substitution.
          1. 0255
            0255 10 December 2016 20: 46
            +5
            Quote: Anatole Klim
            and here we have the savings of the Russian people, then patriotism, and now competitiveness and import substitution.

            I'm afraid to upset you, but "competitiveness" and "import substitution" are also Belarusian slogans of the XNUMXs. VO slipped to the level of Belarusian state media sad And in 2013, the site was much more interesting.
            So it seems that Russians are stuffing Belarusian slogans 10 years ago recourse
            1. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim 10 December 2016 21: 14
              +3
              Quote: 0255
              VO has slipped to the level of Belarusian state media. And in 2013 the site was much more interesting.

              I remember 2013, then there was such a felling that I, just reading a visitor, could not stand it and registered. But I think there will be a soft rollback to the good old days, no one wants the VO site to be boring and monotonous.
              After all, there were fighting fights,
              Yes, they say, even what!
              No wonder the whole of Russia remembers
              About Borodin's day!
              - Yes, there were people nowadays,
              Not that the present tribe:
              Heroes - not you!
              They got a bad share:
              Few came back from the field ...
              1. Rurikovich
                Rurikovich 10 December 2016 21: 35
                +1
                Quote: Anatol Klim
                I remember 2013, then there was such a felling that I, just reading a visitor, could not stand it and registered

                The same crap request yes ...
                And I received warnings for such logging crying
                Now something is not right what
                Maybe he got older ... or wiser ... or he began to respect people more and began to pay less attention to different ... mmm ... comrades of a near mind and great obstinacy wassat
                Maybe it's for the best ... winked
                1. Anatole Klim
                  Anatole Klim 10 December 2016 21: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Rurikovich
                  Maybe it's for the best ...

                  Yes, of course, for the better, how can one live without faith in the good, the bright, the good. Thank...
            2. Senior manager
              Senior manager 10 December 2016 22: 54
              +3
              What, not fresh Belarusian slogans were delivered? Where does Rospotrebnadzor look? Ugliness!!!
      2. bacr
        bacr 14 December 2016 08: 20
        +1
        Children at school say that they are fed shit at school, much worse than at McDonald’s, and McDonald’s in our USA is not like in Russia, but much worse in quality.
  13. vakula
    vakula 10 December 2016 16: 42
    +1
    Excellent advertising, I just would like to know what their prices for essential goods and products are, in order to compare them with their earnings 51% of the population referred to in the 16th fact point (Fact No. 16. 51% of American workers earns less than $ 30 annually.)
  14. Victor N
    Victor N 10 December 2016 16: 44
    +10
    I can’t imagine a Russian who voluntarily emigrated from Russia. If there are any, then this is a special kind of Russian stupid. Living in your own country is worth a lot, and you can do without delicacies.
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 10 December 2016 18: 33
      +3
      I can imagine a Russian who has left the country. And I can name the reasons, not just one, but a good dozen, but why?
      You won’t understand how much power you don’t understand - it's not my business.
      Believe me, those who are already desperate to find something are coming. I don’t take the oligarchos who bought Chelsea into account.
      It's a shame when the so-called. the middle class in production - engineers, and there are lawyers and other "managers" - with them you are going to raise the state from its knees?
      Now for the delicacies.
      Is there fresh pork / veal / lamb - or, as in 1996 at the training camp - meat which bears the stamp "USSR 1941" - is there a difference?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 18: 37
        +2
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        or as in 1996 at the training camp - meat with the stamp "USSR 1941" - is there a difference?

        Eeeee ... And how does it taste?
        1. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 10 December 2016 18: 38
          0
          Boiled porous rubber.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 18: 43
            +2
            Yes, and alcohol, I remember, at that time it smelled of rubber soles. Probably from there too. From the 41 year. laughing
          2. your1970
            your1970 10 December 2016 19: 14
            +2
            I ate eggs in 1948 (almost a quarter of the usual left and black), pork 1954 (ordinary frozen meat), the worst was canned bread 1980 (Afghan) - it was bitter like wormwood .......
            Well, the whole country also ate Bush’s legs in 1991-1994 (the main array was from the army depots of the US Army and also at least 10 years of storage)
            Alive ...

            about "Believe me, those who are already desperate to find something here are coming." - only those who have adventurism in their blood go (even if this is not expressed in any way outwardly). And even the USSR could not master such people with a ban ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 10 December 2016 19: 19
              +7
              Judging by the site where the dollar exchange rate was taken on 16.03.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX, I pay special attention PRICES FOR A Pound (400g.), and right now the people screech - as they say everything is inexpensive with their frantic salaries, do not forget about their loans / mortgages, etc.

              Cereals, bread, price for PSI (approximately 0.5 kg)
              flour 32 USD = 0.5 USD
              rice 45 RUB = 0.7 USD
              spaghetti 83 USD = 1.3 USD
              white bread costs 102 USD = 1.6 USD
              wheat bread without additives 121 USD = 1.9 USD
              Meat cost in the USA per pound (approximately 0.5 kg)
              ground beef 179 USD = 2.8 USD
              boneless beef meat 287 USD = 4.5 USD
              beef steak 293 USD = 4.6 USD
              bacon 306 USD = 4.8 USD
              pork on the bone 236 USD = 3.7 USD
              boneless pork 255 USD = 4 USD
              a whole chicken costs 83 USD = 1.3 USD
              fillet chicken breasts 210 USD = 3.3 USD
              chicken legs $ 96 = 1.5 USD
              Eggs, milk in the USA for lb (approximately 0.5 kg)
              eggs cost 102 USD = 1.6 USD for 12 pcs.
              Fresh milk costs 64 USD = 1 USD per 1 liter
              salted butter 236 USD = 3.7 USD
              processed cheese 255 USD = 4 USD
              cheddar cheese 357 USD = 5.6 USD
              ice-cream for 1.9 L 306 USD = 4.8 USD
              Price of fruits and vegetables in the USA for lb (approximately 0.5 kg)
              apples 89 USD = 1.4 USD
              bananas 38 USD = 0.6 USD
              oranges cost 64 - 191 USD = 1 - 3 USD
              Cherry 217 USD = 3.4 USD
              grapefruit 64 USD = 1 USD
              seedless grapes 159 USD = 2.5 USD
              lemon 102 USD = 1.6 USD
              peaches 102 USD = 1.6 USD
              pears 89 USD = 1.4 USD
              Strawberry 102 USD = 1.6 USD
              potatoes 45 USD = 0.7 USD
              Tomatoes 89 USD = 1.4 USD
              broccoli 102 USD = 1.6 USD
              cabbage 45 USD = 0.7 USD
              celery 57 USD = 0.9 USD
              sweet pepper 153 USD = 2.4 USD
              concentrated orange juice frozen 473.2 ml. 172 USD = 2.7 USD
              Beans 89 USD = 1.4 USD
              More products, price for lb (approximately 0.5 kg)
              white sugar 45 USD = 0.7 USD
              margarine 115 USD = 1.8 USD
              peanut butter 128 USD = 2 USD
              ground roasted coffee 351 USD = 5.5 USD
              wine for 1 liter 555 USD = 8.7 USD
              Food in the cafe
              In New York you can eat on a budget around 510 RUB = 8 USD this is a business lunch in a Japanese restaurant until 4 pm this is in the Brooklyn area.
              1. cap
                cap 10 December 2016 19: 43
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                In New York you can eat on a budget around 510 RUB = 8 USD this is a business lunch in a Japanese restaurant until 4 pm this is in the Brooklyn area.


                Judging by the figures I live in Brooklyn laughing
              2. quolta
                quolta 11 December 2016 04: 26
                0
                ATP is much more informative than the article itself
  15. thinker
    thinker 10 December 2016 16: 50
    +1
    Quote: blind
    the most interesting thing is that those who are settled there do not pour slops to their former homeland, but simply work. but losers, whiners and parasites are trying to make excuses with the help of a shit

    There is a pathology, govnosrach - the main income, like Kasparov, Pussy and the like.
  16. fa2998
    fa2998 10 December 2016 17: 03
    +5
    Quote: Titsen
    Let’s better understand your inner problems, and not draw attention to mattresses and gayrop people!

    Quote: 0255
    And in Russia, how many citizens live below the poverty line?

    I completely agree! There are so many social problems in Russia. And there is nothing to blame for the United States, according to the list that is given in the article in Russia, things are even worse! hi
  17. Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 10 December 2016 17: 15
    +7
    I would like to note one thing about which the author mentioned, but did not emphasize, which is in vain. Many, if not all, representatives of the "middle class" of America pay off the loan (s) for real estate, where everyone lives on credit. In other words, the overwhelming majority of the "middle" class and not only can become impoverished at any moment if the banks that issued loans unexpectedly burn out, which was already the case in 2008. Americans are not just wealthy people, but conditionally wealthy. Do we need it? People, do not take loans, and we will not become like the Americans!
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 10 December 2016 18: 34
      +1
      And how to buy housing for young families? :)
    2. 0255
      0255 10 December 2016 18: 52
      +4
      Quote: Starley from the South
      I would like to note one thing about which the author mentioned, but did not emphasize, which is in vain. Many, if not all, representatives of the "middle class" of America pay off the loan (s) for real estate, where everyone lives on credit. In other words, the overwhelming majority of the "middle" class and not only can become impoverished at any moment if the banks that issued loans unexpectedly burn out, which was already the case in 2008. Americans are not just wealthy people, but conditionally wealthy. Do we need it? People, do not take loans, and we will not become like the Americans!

      and in the CIS countries we are all so rich that we buy cars, apartments, furniture and household appliances immediately in cash and do not take loans? In the decaying west, loans are provided at 2-6 percent per annum. In Belarus, there were generally spiritual loans at 70-90 percent.
    3. INTA_VEGA
      INTA_VEGA 12 December 2016 00: 56
      +1
      Quote: Starley from the South
      America pays the loan (s) for real estate, where everyone lives on credit.

      And what is different with us? Do you have any idea how else to buy housing for labor income?
    4. True
      True 14 December 2016 10: 11
      +3
      Many, if not all, representatives of the "middle class" of America pay off the loan (s) for real estate, where everyone lives on credit.
      Russian banks note an increase in non-payment of debts and a high debt load on the population - 17 million Russian citizens serve simultaneously from five loans. According to the Bank of Russia, by January 1, 2016, individuals have overdue 861 billion rubles of debts to banks
  18. Lelek
    Lelek 10 December 2016 17: 38
    +1
    (Fact # 21. 0,1% of American families have as much property as 90% of other American families combined.)

    In our country, this fact is due to somewhere around 5%. So the DIFFERENCE in the living standards of the population strata in Russia is much higher than in the USA and "Europe". yes
  19. Archon
    Archon 10 December 2016 17: 47
    +4
    corruption, embezzlement, nepotism. Here are the three K's that get people to leave. Of course, in the US they also exist, but some important things, like science, for example, work better. Or laws. We still have some people who are afraid to look at the police patrols.
    1. your1970
      your1970 11 December 2016 17: 53
      0
      Or laws. We still have some people who are afraid to look at police patrols.TAM patrols just shoot at the head, and suddenly, you never know ...
      Ferguson for example ...
  20. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 10 December 2016 18: 40
    +2
    Figures are a serious thing !!! and Trump admitted 90% of the existence of all these problems. The whole world appreciates the life of an amer according to Hollywood films, and there "paradise" - duped those who want a beautiful and free life.
    1. 0255
      0255 10 December 2016 19: 05
      +3
      Quote: tolmachiev51
      Figures are a serious thing !!! and Trump admitted 90% of the existence of all these problems. The whole world appreciates the life of an amer according to Hollywood films, and there "paradise" - duped those who want a beautiful and free life.

      It is clear that there is poverty in the USA, but ordinary Americans live better than us. All these articles about the problems of the United States are written only in order to justify our thieves officials - like "look, others are even worse, so don't dare complain about low salaries, high prices, and corruption." In this, Russian propaganda reminds our Belarusian, in Belarus they have long been talking about the problems of other countries, hushing up their own.
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 10 December 2016 20: 24
      +2
      At my university, students travel to the USA every year to earn money. Over 10 years, more than 2000 people traveled. They come, share their impressions, tell. They work with anyone from scout counselors to laundresses and tattoo designers on beaches. The trip costs (for today) 156-200 thousand re. It used to be 100. But I NEVER HEAR that at least someone complained that he had not recaptured the money. They came and talked - 0 went to 0. But he did not steam! And those who worked in three jobs and beat off money and earned themselves a year of study ahead and still had a living. This is who wanted to work.
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 December 2016 21: 43
        +3
        And those who worked in three jobs and beat off money and earned themselves a year of study ahead and still had a living. This is who wanted to work.Well, let’s put it here if work on 3 jobs it’s quite possible to make good money
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 10 December 2016 21: 46
          +5
          Quote: your1970
          well, let’s put it here if you work on 3 jobs it’s quite possible to make good money

          If you work for three, you can quickly bend. yes
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 11 December 2016 09: 00
            +3
            I already have two health problems
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 21: 58
        +6
        Quote: kalibr
        And those who worked in three jobs and beat off money and earned

        Shpakovsky! What kind of work is this, working on 3's? Please share, otherwise I'm in ah ... that is, in perplexity.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 11 December 2016 08: 47
          +1
          Two hours in one place, four in another, 4-5 somewhere else. There you can. For example, you work for two hours in a cafe, then next to a construction site, then somewhere else ... Two of my students, for example, worked for 4 hours, tattoos were imposed, and then they peddled hamburgers.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 11 December 2016 11: 19
            +1
            About construction, this is a blunder, Vyacheslav. Even the foreman at two sites, already the mother’s load is not grieving, and not only physical. I had an episode with three objects at the same time, the schedule was something like this: work - 16 hours, sleep - 5 hours, food - 1 hour, the rest of my life - 2 hours.
            1. your1970
              your1970 11 December 2016 17: 50
              +2
              so he writes: 2 + 4 + 5 = 11 hours
  21. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 10 December 2016 18: 42
    +1
    Quote: fa2998
    Quote: Titsen
    Let’s better understand your inner problems, and not draw attention to mattresses and gayrop people!

    Quote: 0255
    And in Russia, how many citizens live below the poverty line?

    I completely agree! There are so many social problems in Russia. And there is nothing to blame for the United States, according to the list that is given in the article in Russia, things are even worse! hi

    You data for comparison, and not n ..... "and we have !!!"
  22. izya top
    izya top 10 December 2016 18: 51
    +8
    request fool
    It became known about the death of Maidan activist, the hero of the ATO Peter Chronopulo. According to law enforcement officers, the misfortune happened due to negligence. Being at a friendly party, Oleg ate a flag of the Russian Federation, the size of 70 x 40 centimeters. The next day, the victim felt ill, but did not go to the doctors and was self-medicating. Only a week later, in an unconscious state, he was taken to the hospital and urgently operated on. Despite the efforts of doctors, Oleg Chronopulo died.
  23. Krayt
    Krayt 10 December 2016 19: 11
    +6
    Ordinary people are not needed anywhere, either in the United States or in Russia, and the fact that the standard of living in the Russian Federation is declining, everyone sees this when receiving receipts for housing and communal services and visiting shops ...
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 10 December 2016 19: 29
      +5
      Shhhh, now you will be recorded in the liberoid-belolentochnikov!
      We are fine, beautiful marquise (s)
      1. 0255
        0255 10 December 2016 19: 33
        +2
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Shhhh, now you will be recorded in the liberoid-belolentochnikov!
        We are fine, beautiful marquise (s)

        c'mon, liberals also wrote me down when I wrote about the problems of Belarus.
      2. Krayt
        Krayt 10 December 2016 22: 46
        +6
        Yes, Chubais and I were not recorded in Russian for a long time and they just didn’t write to me ... I don’t give a damn about it. I always despised the alcoholic Yeltsin and for me he will always be on the same level as Hitler, like their whole company. For me, Russia is not the Baltic ass of Chubais lost in Russia .... but not everyone understands ...
  24. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh 10 December 2016 19: 27
    +3
    read, read and did not read. crap somehow incomprehensible.
  25. 933454818
    933454818 10 December 2016 20: 07
    +4
    I have been living in Portugal for 15 years soon and have never met a person from "our former" to directly despise Russia. Strange article - what does it have to do with dollars and euros - I won't say for everyone because I don't know, but it's more convenient to live in Portugal than in Rossii.Ne easier, you also need to work, earn, and taxes are commensurate with the Russian.No here are the facts, for example, our child, when he was in school for 4 years in a row, according to estimates, went to the "honor roll" and received 1000 euros for it. Now I have entered the institute - tuition is paid, yes, but his scholarship is exactly equal to the fee per year of study. And much more, little things. About the prices I will not, they are quite commensurate, salaries are also minimal now -560 euros
  26. Igool
    Igool 10 December 2016 20: 41
    +5
    Quote: Titsen
    Transfer at least the salary indicated there to the average mattress in our rubles - and it will be like in a song: YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING AND SEE EVERYTHING YOURSELF!

    Translate if you need it so much. However, do not forget to simultaneously transfer costs: for housing, utilities, food, medical care, insurance, of which there is no measure, etc. And you will see that the salary is not so impressive anymore. We must take a comprehensive, and not just one salary, but in rubles. You still count in tugriks, you will operate with billions ..
    1. 0255
      0255 10 December 2016 21: 01
      +3
      Quote: Igool
      Translate if you need it so much. However, do not forget to simultaneously transfer costs: for housing, utilities, food, medical care, insurance, of which there is no measure, etc. And you will see that the salary is not so impressive anymore. We must take a comprehensive, and not just one salary, but in rubles. You still count in tugriks, you will operate with billions ..

      Yes? Why do you have an Italian flag? We left to live in a member state of the EU and NATO, but do you like the Russian Federation at a distance?
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 December 2016 21: 44
        0
        only he has Frigate who sculpts IP from where you want ....
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 10 December 2016 21: 45
        +3
        Quote: 0255
        0255

        And in what he is right yes
        In the West, capitalism, there you pay for everything. And really, I heard several such stories from our Slav brothers that you seem to get decently by our standards, but after all the taxes, various payments, if you have to stretch out on bread until the end of the month, then well...
        Everything is relative. Someone and 100 greens per month will be enough, but for someone 20 is not enough what request And so the average normal person there has the same problems as ours, only adjusted for the local flavor and the economy and social sphere winked
        1. 0255
          0255 10 December 2016 21: 59
          +3
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Quote: 0255
          0255

          And in what he is right yes
          In the West, capitalism, there you pay for everything. And really, I heard several such stories from our Slav brothers that you seem to get decently by our standards, but after all the taxes, various payments, if you have to stretch out on bread until the end of the month, then well...
          Everything is relative. Someone and 100 greens per month will be enough, but for someone 20 is not enough what request And so the average normal person there has the same problems as ours, only adjusted for the local flavor and the economy and social sphere winked

          Typical tales of the ideologist of the BRSM ...
          In Belarus, a lot of people after 2014 salary fell to $ 100, prices increased by 1,5-2 times - and you will fill me in about how "20 is not enough for someone?"
          The only thing you can say is "yak at va usih truncated is bad, and only in our astrauke the stability and primacy of truncation is harasho."
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 22: 06
            +4
            Quote: 0255
            In Belarus, a lot of people who after 2014, the salary fell to 100 $

            I can tell you about those who have s, n in Russia 50 $. Per month.
          2. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 10 December 2016 22: 08
            0
            Quote: 0255
            Typical tales of the ideologist of the BRSM ...

            Well, I don’t belong to such ones, that's for sure wink
            Quote: 0255
            In Belarus, a lot of people who after 2014, the salary fell to 100 $

            The vast majority of 100 to 200 with a stretch - that's for sure yes , the captain will naturally have several times more request
            Quote: 0255
            you will fill in about how "20 is not enough for someone"

            This did not apply to our reality - I am well acquainted with it, for I myself am boiling in this mess, but to theirs.
            But it is impossible to deny the attitude to the problem of each person individually (in general), because all people are different and their requests are also yes
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 10 December 2016 22: 23
              +3
              0255
              I will add. There are several acquaintances-traders. Some clothes, some on watermelons with fruits. So they constantly whine that they, poor fellow, are being crushed and there is not enough money for a living ... BUT ... every year families rest over the hill, leaving at least 5 pieces of American Tugriks there. Morality - this will always be a lot of money, because they work for themselves, but this does not shine for state employees, because they plan so that 150 green tugriks a month will be happy ... Everything is relative wink request
              1. 0255
                0255 11 December 2016 10: 29
                +1
                Quote: Rurikovich
                0255
                I will add. There are several acquaintances-traders. Some clothes, some on watermelons with fruits. So they constantly whine that they, poor fellow, are being crushed and there is not enough money to live on ... BUT ... every year families rest over the hill, leaving at least 5 pieces of American Tugriks there.

                Well, well done, that in the conditions of Belarusian "stability" they make good money. Not everyone can run a business.
                Quote: Rurikovich
                Morality - there will always be little money like this, because they work for themselves, and the state employees don’t have such a thing, because they plan so that 150 green tugriks a month will be happy ... Everything is relative wink request

                In fact, no one in the country is glad that salaries fell to $ 150. The fact that well-earned Belarusians complain about life is no reason to justify the low standard of living in the country.
  27. gsnoleg240169
    gsnoleg240169 10 December 2016 21: 05
    +1
    Well, we strive for this (judging by the behavior of the government)
  28. Vasya Sharapov
    Vasya Sharapov 10 December 2016 21: 07
    +1
    They live like they live and I don't care about that. Compare grocery baskets. sn and so on, I think nonsense. negative
  29. Kenneth
    Kenneth 10 December 2016 21: 21
    0
    The data was taken from the site of a certain Alex Jones, who, upon closer examination, cannot be called anything but slightly more. Take a look at the wiki, if not breaking. But actually it’s really better for us to go about our business, because I'm afraid that even comparing on this list we may be a little upset
  30. Kenneth
    Kenneth 10 December 2016 21: 24
    +5
    One of my classmates, who incidentally hated Russia with all the fibers of their souls, had the opportunity to live in the USA for several years. Now he hates both Russia and the USA.
    1. Russian1972
      Russian1972 14 December 2016 07: 46
      0
      He probably has a mental disability ????
  31. den-protector
    den-protector 10 December 2016 21: 26
    +7
    It is necessary to deal with their problems, and not to list other people's jambs, even if plausible. 90% of American problems taking into account specifics can be safely transferred to our country. Our main problem is the colossal stratification and polarization of our society, which is actually divided into the estates of masters and everyone else (as yet personally. But conditionally, free). Another problem that we got from 1991 and is connected with the first problem is the robbery of the people by squeezing out (privatizing) state and collective farm property by a bunch of former communists and Komsomol members who suddenly became democrats and entrepreneurs, exposers of the Soviet totalitarian regime. These problems are slow. but inexorably pull our long-suffering country into a new Troubles. But war and devastation really do not want to. But you can’t live like that.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 22: 29
      +4
      Quote: den-protector
      robbery of the people by overthrowing (privatization) of state and collective farm property by a bunch of former communists and Komsomol members,

      Komsomol rebuilt
      in show business,
      And one of them calls his body LISS firm
      He became a capitalist communist from Goskino
      Instead of films about the Chekists, they advertise ero ...
      Metamorphosis...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 10 December 2016 22: 33
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        advertise ero ...

        Miracle moderators, explain to me where ero and where else. laughing
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  33. KRIG55
    KRIG55 10 December 2016 22: 27
    +7
    The author would not have to stoop to Ukrainian scribblers (they like to write how badly in Russia). And do not distract us from their problems by the Americans. As far as I can remember, American imperialism rots, rots and does not decay completely.
  34. Altona
    Altona 10 December 2016 22: 33
    +5
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    This applies to 51% of the population, and 49% of the "more than ours" dropped out. And in general, counting monetary units in comparison with the exchange rate, and projecting onto our conditions is about nothing. I'm interested in another thing, how much an ordinary mattress, with an income of $ 2500, after paying off the loans (and they are 99% credited there) can buy goods in comparison with our basket? And in general, how much do they have the same loaf of bread for which a Russian on average pays 30 cents?

    ---------------------------------
    The real rate in comparison with us is about 15-20 rubles per dollar, cultivating a garden in some states is equivalent to printing fake money (you take bread from Monsanto). Public transport is expensive. After deducting all taxes and fixed costs (communal opate of various kinds), a little-500-600 remains on hand. And yes, the average salary in the US is about $ 2500 a month. In general, everything is good where we are not. The most important thing is that our lives are molded according to the patterns from the USA — there must be a private trader everywhere. But with us, private traders have never been a driving force. We had a state driving force. And in general, to compare their salaries is nothing. There, a person himself pays his taxes, which we automatically deduct in accounting. In general, after the ban on gardens, the United States can no longer be envied.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 11 December 2016 09: 10
      0
      So the law on "6 acres" was adopted in the 79th, when the agricultural industry was already in a state of half-life and inability to feed the cities.
  35. Altona
    Altona 10 December 2016 22: 37
    +2
    Quote: Igool
    Translate if you need it so much. However, do not forget to simultaneously transfer costs: for housing, utilities, food, medical care, insurance, of which there is no measure, etc. And you will see that the salary is not so impressive anymore. We must take a comprehensive, and not just one salary, but in rubles. You still count in tugriks, you will operate with billions ..

    ---------------------------------------------
    In this you are right, you must consider the volume of services and goods received, and not painted candy wrappers.
  36. 1rl141
    1rl141 10 December 2016 22: 45
    +1
    I have one friend. About 10 years ago, he chucked to America. He threw his wife and child here and went to look for a better life. First he worked in a car service, then he looked after an elderly couple, he lived in their house, such as a gardener and a nurse. He’s been living in a car for six months now, but he’s not going to return. Hopes to win the lottery.
    1. Russian1972
      Russian1972 14 December 2016 07: 44
      +1
      All right, returning means admitting that you are a sucker and a loser. It’s easier to talk about how bad it is in Russia and how free it is in the USA. But in general, everyone attaches differently. One observation of such stories is -1. You need to have a residence permit and not be illegal. 2. Working professions (subject to the first paragraph) plus the desire to learn a language are more or less normal.
  37. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 December 2016 22: 49
    0
    I will add. There is such a parameter - the Big Mac index - a simple comparison of the purchasing power of currencies. In New York this sandwich costs $ 5, and in Moscow it costs $ 2! Comparative costs are largely in the same proportion. We can assume that on $ 30 thousand a year in the United States you can live happily ever after. I just ask you not to forget that taxes are paid there - every man for himself! And not at all small. Transport, medicine, education ... in short, this is the level of our 30 thousand rubles per month. And the retirement age there is 65!
  38. Brigadier
    Brigadier 10 December 2016 23: 41
    +3
    ... and in the case of the 3rd World War, get ready to accept multi-stage gifts from the former Motherland! We have enough for you and for all your rotten America!
  39. Fucknato
    Fucknato 11 December 2016 02: 47
    +1
    Go to YouTube and see how our former live in the damned west.
  40. kamradserg
    kamradserg 11 December 2016 03: 36
    +1
    A very powerful propaganda machine is working in the world, the goal of which is to hammer into everyone's head something like the following: "The West is great and beautiful, all the rest are barbarians and savages, and those who disagree with this are barbarians and savages who should be exterminated." This is very brief, but this is the point. This propaganda is literally everywhere: in movies, in games, in music, in TV shows, etc.
    This propaganda must be resisted. And here such an attempt is made. It is right.
    And those who write here that instead they should deal with internal problems are real enemy provocateurs. Consciously, they are doing this or out of wit - this is a secondary issue.
    1. kamradserg
      kamradserg 11 December 2016 04: 01
      +1
      How to effectively solve internal problems when most of the administrative corps and intelligentsia are struck by Western propaganda described above?
  41. tinibar
    tinibar 11 December 2016 03: 53
    +2
    Quote: Titsen
    Quote: NEXUS
    I would add one more


    You can, of course, add even more, but why?

    And so it is clear, the article was prepared by a Russian sofa-patriot.

    I am sure that ALL OF US, our migrants far and savory do not care!

    Out of sight, out of mind!

    Let’s better understand your inner problems, and not draw attention to mattresses and gayrop people!

    It is established that the most unfavorable country for gay life is Russia. Therefore, if you feel bad in Russia, are you not gay? laughing
  42. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 11 December 2016 04: 38
    +2
    Not really impressed with the fact number 16 - on it we are in ....
  43. Altona
    Altona 11 December 2016 09: 28
    0
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    So the law on "6 acres" was adopted in the 79th, when the agricultural industry was already in a state of half-life and inability to feed the cities.

    -----------------------------
    With us you can rent any amount of land that you can sow and cultivate, grow crops as you wish. They have a farmer obliged to dance strictly to the tune of Monsanto-they give the recipe, seeds, fertilizers and herbicides.
    1. Verteidiger
      Verteidiger 11 December 2016 20: 10
      +3
      Have you already taken? And did you get the infrastructure?
  44. Hungary
    Hungary 11 December 2016 17: 21
    +4
    The author is squalor. A little such statistics in Russia, no?
  45. Verteidiger
    Verteidiger 11 December 2016 20: 09
    +2
    And they also produce Fords, Chryslers and Hammers. Which in quality are significantly inferior to autotazoids. Still there it is impossible to engage in private business, not related to oil and gas. Galloping the rising cost of uh, gasoline and travel simply do not leave a chance to survive .. And there several times a year the foreign policy vector changes, and the head of the State Department has Russian citizenship (like a trump card). The head of the CIA issued schemes for wiretapping the Russian embassy (like bakatin) .. Such a mountain of noodles with ears should be raked with a bulldozer.
  46. Friends
    Friends 13 December 2016 20: 17
    +1
    Quote: izya top
    because it’s a shame to admit that they were scamming. Dreams turned out to be far from reality — no one greets joyfully, does not put dollars and euros in his pockets.
    in short, solid zrada


    In most cases it is.
  47. Russian1972
    Russian1972 14 December 2016 07: 37
    +3
    Once upon a time I came across the adventures of a Kievite who cobbled a carrier in Yuesei. So, to the detailed descriptions of police corruption, houses with asbestos walls, drug addiction, prices for cars and housing, etc. he added one interesting observation - Those who left for the United States are often ashamed to admit that by Amer’s standards they became NIKEM. That in the former republics of the USSR they were there deputies, teachers, researchers, officials, etc. Those they were people recognized in their circle. In the US, all this is on the drum, the main thing there (in his words) HOW MUCH YOU STAND, in dollars, respectively. And not everyone can jump to the local bar of earnings and rise. That remains in spite for their failures to pour mud on the FORMER Homeland. .
  48. Old warrior
    Old warrior 14 December 2016 10: 50
    0
    Because to o z s.
  49. Jubilee
    Jubilee 14 December 2016 11: 00
    0
    I would also listen to the opinion of the dodgers who dumped in the SGA ...
    Chkhat them !!!
  50. 1536
    1536 14 December 2016 16: 04
    0
    In the USA there is such a concept that the next generation should live better than the previous one. So, according to sociological research of the Americans themselves, the current generation of people in the United States lives not better, but worse than the previous one. This has not happened in the entire history of the United States. This is a consequence of the Obama’s reign, on the one hand, and on the other, the inability to move to the next technological level of development of socio-economic relations, because the lion's share of production is brought to China, the economy is concentrated in the hands of transnational banks that do not produce anything, because they don’t need it. No wonder the British, for example, recently announced the backwardness of their banking sector from the main trends in the development of the IT industry.
    And if someone, in some places where we sometimes whistled several hundred thousand dollars in Russia, fled to the USA and feels at ease there, then let him think about how his grandchildren and great-grandchildren will feel. If the answer is “good,” and by God, no one keeps anyone in Russia, and if he doesn’t find an answer, he will think, so let him teach his wife to cook cabbage soup, and not tell jokes and tales about life in America. Halari's syndrome - I see "black", I say "white" - an extremely contagious disease, as it turned out.