The court found Gulchekhra Bobokulova, who beheaded a girl in Moscow, insane

News agency Interfax cites material of the court ruling in the case of the brutal murder of a child by a citizen of Uzbekistan Gulchekhra Bobokulova. Recall that this woman worked as a nanny of a child in a Moscow family and committed the brutal murder of a young girl suffering from cerebral palsy, cutting off her head, and then walking around with the head of a child at the entrance to the metro station.

It is reported that the Khoroshevsky Court of the city of Moscow decided to release Bobokulov from criminal responsibility and send her for compulsory treatment.

From the material of the information agency:

To release Bobokulova from criminal responsibility for committing socially dangerous acts and send her for the application of compulsory medical measures to the hospital of a specialized medical institution.

The court decided that a citizen of Uzbekistan committed a crime “in a state of insanity”.

It is reported that all the facts of the crime were established. Bobokulova first strangled the girl, and then cut off her head. The next step Bobokulova was arson of the apartment, which the girl's parents rented. The court estimated the total damage to property at 6,5 million rubles.

From the material:

A month before the murder, Bobokulova, on the background of her mental disorder, developed an acute psychotic state, accompanied by a delusion of a religious orientation. According to doctors, a woman is insane and needs treatment in a specialized hospital, as her actions can be dangerous to others.

Bobokulova pleaded guilty, stating that she was “committed to the crime by the voice of Allah, who spoke Tajik.”

Comments

[Monos]

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!! For such a need to quarter!

[Sergey K.]

Quote: Monos

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!!

As Comrade Stalin would say: "Shoot" ...

[Giant thought]

It seems that in a hospital after a while she will be waiting for a lulling bump.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Giant thought

It seems that in a hospital after a while she will be waiting for a lulling bump.

Not. it is necessary to officially make a head-ax. Well, they nah all the "crap". Elo must be punished. (my opinion)

[The black]

This is amazing, madmen are allowed to commit the most terrible crimes! Let us then judge those who released them from the asylum, moreover, by the same article. And it turns out that we are all defenseless before the insane.

[Tatyana]

I don't believe in her insanity !!! She's too well-groomed for her! This does not happen with the insane. Most likely, the doctors' lawyers bribed! For under suspicion of "insanity" then - otherwise - the entire Islamic world is.

This is a diplomatic move of the COURT with bribery, with elements of corruption - and nothing more!

[Tatyana]

I do not believe in the insanity of Bobokulova. And that's why.
Mentally ill people do not monitor their appearance. They are untidy in everything (clothing, personal hygiene) - they are all "on the drum." And if a sick person in clothes puts on what he has, then COSMETICS on his face needs to be directed daily. So look carefully at the face of Bobokulova, who is already behind the bars almost immediately after the deed. She has eyebrow makeup !!! Moreover, the eyebrows are not just plucked, but also carefully DRAW (drawn). She and behind bars in court is preoccupied with her appearance !!! She clearly wants to please someone and demonstrates to someone virtually her “beauty”. What could be the conclusion? What she did was to please one of the men. Whom? Someone who may very much like such acts. And to whom? To the Islamists.
Karaulova is convicted and is in prison. Why doesn't he sit in Bobokulov’s prison? (According to our current laws, women criminals are not shot or given life-long.)
Of course, Bobokulova had a brain failure in some man (like Karaulova). But the trouble is that Karaulova and Bobokulova are from different civilizations! Namely, that for RUSSIANS is an utter Orthodox and secular WILDNESS, for Muslim Muslim Bobokulova in relation to RUSSIANS and Gentiles is NORMAL Uzbekistan for the past 25 years !!! Why shouldn’t she apply the same thing in Russia itself? And she applied! And in this regard, Bobokulova for Uzbek Muslims is also a heroine!
And here we come to big politics between two peoples, two countries, two religious denominations.
Therefore, the recognition by doctors of Bobokulova UNAFFECTED is a psychologically purely CONDITIONAL compromise solution for the Uzbek diaspora in the Russian Federation and between the authorities of the Russian Federation and Uzbekistan. Simply put, they tried to hush up the case and transfer it to a purely medical channel, the benefit of social and interethnic psychology, doctors often simply "close" their eyes and proceed from the traditions of their own civilization to determine the diagnosis, which clearly distorts the imputed adequacy of the medical diagnosis itself.

[Stas157]

And why is the animal that killed the person killed, but there is no insane? Gulchehra may not have been in itself, but undoubtedly there was much development of any animal! She talked normally, she was even taken into caregivers ... Why should such people make discounts? Why are they better than animals? In my opinion much worse!

[avva2012]

Stas157
Under Hitler, the mentally ill were destroyed. What, then, are you different from him, offering similar? Maybe they forgot Nuremberg and how did it end for some, so-called, people?

[V.ic]

Quote: avva2012

what are called people?

Do you nominate this for an international award? Allah see her, have you whispered something !? Stake her in the ass definitely!

[revnagan]

Don't you confuse anything? Under Hitler, the mentally ill were destroyed without exception, but here they simply offer a measure of social protection from persons who have committed a grave or especially grave crime against citizens and society, regardless of their mental health. crimes in a state of alcoholic or drug intoxication. They were "not in themselves." They need to be treated. Understand, forgive and let go, a sick person: an alcoholic, a drug addict ... And for some reason the court considers this an aggravating circumstance. humanism.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Sterlya

Officially, make a head-ax. Well, they nah all the "shit". Elo must be punished. (my opinion)

I think life-long sitting on psychotropic drugs, the punishment is much more terrible than beheading, hanging ... breaking the whole body into components, the death penalty in any form. Only now, the death penalty is much more rational, because the people will have to pay for its "treatment", maintenance ..... Think of the doctors, security, maintenance of the premises, medicines, food, etc. - all this costs money and a lot.

[mr.redpartizan]

Only the highest measure, no other way. Stop playing in the tolerance and brotherhood of nations.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Thought Giant

It seems that in a hospital after a while she will be waiting for a lulling bump.

Call me - I will do ...

[tihiy]

Quote: Giant thought

It seems that in a hospital after a while she will be waiting for a lulling bump.

On one leg is six months in the hospital and will be released

[Zibelew]

Sorry for the girl. Parents hired a cheaply mentally ill person on the street to look after their child. Found on what to save, scum.
As for Bobokulova, compulsory treatment is the best option. She will become a vegetable in six months from drugs. She will have haloperidol for breakfast, lunch and dinner

[mr.redpartizan]

This shit will be kept at the expense of taxpayers, such individuals are not amenable to correction, so it had to be shot during detention immediately.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: mr.redpartizan

This shit will be kept at the expense of taxpayers, such individuals are not amenable to correction

Remind you how many lifetimes we have? Are they there for life correction? INPUT THE BACK TO THE HIGH AND TIGHTEN IT TO THE LIMIT. For example, the third criminal record under ANY article is the wall ....

[Alexdark]

He stole a loaf three times, a wall?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: AlexDARK

Уstole the loaf three times, the wall?

Definitely. Because it - relapse. There will be a fourth, fifth and twentieth loaf ... Believe me, I know what I'm talking about - the cousin himself had one ... On the twelfth or thirteenth walk, they nailed somewhere in the zone, thank God. And if, after the third conviction, they’re put to the wall - count how much grief he would have for people NOT brought it?

[volot-voin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

He stole a loaf three times, a wall?

Definitely.

For a loaf - overkill, when for billions of thefts - apartment arrest, and for races on heliks - 15 days.
Baton - it is possible to give out to those in need free of charge)))), he is transporting humanitarian aid around the world, we cannot give ours.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: volot-voin

For a loaf - overkill, when for billions of thefts - apartment arrest, and for races on heliks - 15 days.

The baton in this context, as I understand it, is conditional. But I’m wondering - they will put Ulyukaev on, or how about Taburetkin, on the brakes? .....

[tihiy]

Quote: Zibelew

As for Bobokulova, compulsory treatment is the best option.

the authorities are responsible that herds of mentally dangerous Bobokulovs and all kinds of Tsakanyans roam the country

[your1970]

Sergey K.
As Comrade Stalin would say: "Shoot" ... - I didn’t try to think (I’m silent about reading at all) - you apparently confused Stalin with Hitler ??? And what, both of them have a mustache ...
here it is - I.V. STALIN
UK RSFSR 1926
section 3
Article 11 Forensic social protection measures can not be applicable to persons who have committed crimes in a condition chronic mental illness, or temporary disorder mental activity, or in another painful condition if these individuals could not be aware in their actions or direct them, as well as in relation to those persons who, although they acted in a state of mental equilibrium, but at the time of sentencing were ill with mental illness.
Only medical measures of social protection may be applied to these persons.
Here it is- Hitler
"The killing program" T-4 "(German Aktion Tiergartenstraße 4," Operation Tiergartenstrasse 4 ") - the official name of the eugenic program of the German National Socialists for sterilization, and later physical destruction of people with mental disorders, mentally retarded and hereditarily burdened patients. Subsequently, disabled persons (disabled persons, as well as those who were ill for over 5 years) were included in the circle of persons subjected to destruction. At first, only children under three years old were destroyed, then all age groups. "
Do you catch the difference ????

People who do not know and do not want to know the history enrage people who utter with a thoughtful air - "Stalin, toshi-boshi, personally would shove a sausage ...."
ps after eliminating the inadequacies, the site has become many times more

[vsoltan]

The stupidity and cruelty of some comments on the site is surprising. ..have never heard of psychiatry?

[Monos]

Quote: vsoltan

have you ever heard of psychiatry?

Did you hear why you didn't? But if a person poses a real DEADLY danger to my loved ones, children, friends, neighbors, acquaintances, I do not care if he is sick or not sick! I don't care what the "humanists" will say to that. Imagine that such a sick child can cut off his head and then (maybe) your brains will fall into place. Here I am such a not tolerant monster.

[vsoltan]

Maybe you are an intolerant psychologist, however, it is clear that you have not seen a real schizphrenic. ... and you’ll split it up to the next attack. ... everything is simple, here the site begins not Military Review, but neurology and psychiatry with forensic medicine

[Monos]

Quote: vsoltan

Maybe you are an intolerant psychologist, however, it is clear that you have not seen a real schizphrenic

Saw. And even personally reassured, without the help of nurses. But I also with my own hands collected the brains of a man who was hacked by such a psychopath. And you know, after such cases, pacifism and pity for this human material disappears.

[vsoltan]

Forensic expert?

[Monos]

Quote: vsoltan

Forensic expert?

Not. Simple layman.

[Krabik]

If the child had cerebral palsy, then the situation is very interesting.

[mr.redpartizan]

Only often the criminal was recognized sane to sentence to the tower. Forensic psychiatrists were clearly not opposed to this.

[your1970]

after reading 65 comments, I can only say one thing - the doctor psychiatrist under-examined many here:
1) paranoia- "In the classical view, paranoia sufferers differ unhealthy suspiciousnessinclined to see in random events plotting enemiesto build sophisticated conspiracy theoriessaved in another logical thinking. Especially often, such situations arise with the initial authority of the patient's personality for relatives and suggestibility of the latter (induced delirium). In many cases, paranoia is characterized heightened distrust of others, resentment, suspicion, jealousy, tendency to see in random eventsthe inability to forget and forgive insults, take criticism, sometimes these elements are combined with relationship delusions "
2) schizophrenia- "The most common manifestations of the disease are auditory hallucinations, paranoid or fantastic nonsense or disorganization of speech and thinking against the background of significant social dysfunction and impaired performance "
3) induced psychosis (ICD 297.3) - "mainly delusional psychosisusually chronic and often dim, developing as a result of close or dependent relationships with another person who already suffers from a similar psychosis. Mental illness of the dominant subject most often paranoid. Painful ideas are induced in another person and disappear when this couple is separated. Sometimes induced delirium develops in several people. "
4) Manic-depressive psychosis, manic type (ICD 296.0) - "a mental disorder characterized by a state of elevated mood or agitation, not arising from the circumstances of life and ranging from increased vitality (hypomania) to violent, almost uncontrollable arousal. Typical symptoms are Aggressiveness and Malice, Leap of ideas, distraction, violations of criticism and ideas of greatness."

I didn’t even reach the middle of the list, but I AM ALREADY terrified of the number of potential patients of Kashchenka .....

[Bekas1967]

It is also surprising that many do not understand that this patient does not care at all that they will execute her or they will treat her .... she is generally shocked at everything around her. And fans of execution, I want to give a hatchet in their hands and provide them for cutting up such patients. Just stop later it won't be easy ... if you start ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: your1970

Sergey K.
As Comrade Stalin would say: "Shoot" ... -
I didn’t try to think (I’m silent about reading at all) —you apparently confused Stalin with Hitler ???

There were excesses in both.
There are such "patients" that to treat them is only to torment them.
Here legal euthanasia would be very useful.
Hitler also has excesses. But there were the right actions.
You can’t shoot everyone under one comb. But for anyone transmitting mental or physical deformity by inheritance, forced sterilization would be very useful
If Hitler has two, two - four, this does not mean that this "four" has distributed itself.

[your1970]

it’s a pity that your parents weren’t forcibly sterilized, it’s a pity ... there would be less moral freaks on earth ...

[Sergey K.]

it’s a pity that your parents weren’t forcibly sterilized, it’s a pity ... there would be less moral freaks on earth ...

There is only one moral. And to him now I am responding to the comment. Here he is an Internet genius, a wizard to take quotes from Wikipedia. In my previous comment, I already advised you to consult a psychiatrist !! Turn on the brains, dear! You generally give the report what you write?!?!? Or just on the Internet such a hero? mmm?

[your1970]

just an answer

Quote: Shurik70

У Hitler excesses too. But there were the right actions.
You can’t shoot everyone under one comb. But for anyone transmitting mental or physical deformity by inheritance, forced sterilization would be very useful
If Hitler has two, two, or four, this does not mean that these are "four" themselves.

and if you do not agree with the Nuremberg decision, then this is for you to the psychiatrist ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Shurik70

Hitler also has excesses. But there were the right actions.

First of all, patients of the psychiatric hospital were sent to Babi Yar with staff. And rightly so, that they are sorry, yes, Shurik?

[Shurik70]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

First of all, patients of the psychiatric hospital were sent to Babi Yar with staff. And rightly so that they are sorry

But do not distort. I have never justified Hitler. And in particular executions.
I said that he had the right thoughts. In particular, the need to combat hereditary diseases, even if sterilization is required for this.

In the late 90s I saw statistics for Moscow.
In 1997, there were 20 times more schools for mentally retarded children in Moscow than in 1971 !!! TWENTY !!!
Now these data are generally classified. So as not to scare people.

[your1970]

1) now there are 7 correctional schools in Moscow, and children go there: with hearing impairment, visual impairment, severe speech pathology, musculoskeletal disorders, mental retardation, mental retardation. As for secrecy, you simply did not look for or looking for a "school for fools / mentally retarded" - quite open information ...
http://detinform.ru/areas-korrektsionnye_shkoly
2) the population of Moscow: in 1971 it was 7,06 million, in 1989 - 10 with a small million. This increase (by 3 million !!!!!) could give a slight increase in sick children ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: your1970

1) now 7 correctional schools in Moscow

Open your Yandex card and type "correctional schools".
And then get the map closer.

School number 285
GBU Scarlet Sails
School number 1095
School number 281
Boarding school № 102 (2 pieces, main and branch)
School №1499
School number 4
MBOU NSh DS OVZ

This is only the Mytishchi district and a piece inside the MKAD adjacent to Mytishchi

[your1970]

actually a conversation you were talking about MOSCOW and terrible "secrecy" ..
And besides, the word "correctional" means a complex for children with all kinds of disabilities, and not just mentally retarded
so for example the functions of GBU "Scarlet Sails"
- the maintenance and upbringing of orphans and children left without parental care;
- maintenance, upbringing and social rehabilitation of minors in difficult life situations;
- the implementation of post-nursing patronage;
- organization of assistance to the placement of orphans and children left without parental care in a family upbringing, including counseling for persons wishing to adopt (adopt) a guardianship (guardianship) of a child, or foster care, on issues of family structure and protection of rights such children;
- training of citizens who have expressed a desire to adopt children to family forms of device;
- implementation of social patronage;
- accompaniment of families (foster, guardianship, guardianship) who have adopted a child (children) for education.

Where in this school do you see children with intellectual disabilities?

[Luga]

Quote: your1970

you Stalin apparently beguiled with Hitler ???

Thank you for the smart and detailed message.

Quote: your1970

after eliminating the inadequacies, the site has become many times more

And I agree with that.
In general, a fat plus for you from me personally "with the entry into the registration card"

[Zoldat_A]

[quote =your1970] People who do not know and do not want to know the history enrage people who utter with a thoughtful air - "Stalin, toshi-boshi, would personally shuffle the sausage ...." [/ quote]
In fact, your ... For such a comment, a deep plus .....

[a]

I support you 100%, the people really don’t know the history and stopped thinking, in short it turns into a vegetable, from which they probably shout such radical things without thinking.

[Sergey K.]

Quote: your1970

Sergey K.
As Comrade Stalin would say: "Shoot" ... - I didn’t try to think (I’m silent about reading at all) - you apparently confused Stalin with Hitler ??? And what, both of them have a mustache ...
here it is - I.V. STALIN
UK RSFSR 1926
section 3
Article 11 Forensic social protection measures can not be applicable to persons who have committed crimes in a condition chronic mental illness, or temporary disorder mental activity, or in another painful condition if these individuals could not be aware in their actions or direct them, as well as in relation to those persons who, although they acted in a state of mental equilibrium, but at the time of sentencing were ill with mental illness.
Only medical measures of social protection may be applied to these persons.
Here it is- Hitler
"The killing program" T-4 "(German Aktion Tiergartenstraße 4," Operation Tiergartenstrasse 4 ") - the official name of the eugenic program of the German National Socialists for sterilization, and later physical destruction of people with mental disorders, mentally retarded and hereditarily burdened patients. Subsequently, disabled persons (disabled persons, as well as those who were ill for over 5 years) were included in the circle of persons subjected to destruction. At first, only children under three years old were destroyed, then all age groups. "
Do you catch the difference ????

People who do not know and do not want to know the history enrage people who utter with a thoughtful air - "Stalin, toshi-boshi, personally would shove a sausage ...."
ps after eliminating the inadequacies, the site has become many times more

I look someone wants to seem very smart. Sometimes they write a lot of things on the fence too, but there are firewood, imagine? If this case happened during the reign of Joseph Vissarionovich, no one would even begin to understand. They put it to the wall and closed the question. Do you know many cases when the investigation of the detainees was completed? AND? And the fact that you are here trying to show off your knowledge from Wikipedia does not mean anything. I would see how you would sing if this precedent touched you.

People are ignorant and do not want to know history and speak with a thoughtful look

In this case, I suggest that you disengage yourself from those around you, approximately in the same direction that Bobokulova is now being determined so as not to freak out again and not injure her psyche. Since you obviously do not know how to adequately respond to the opinions of other people. In the process for you, there are only two opinions - yours and wrong.

... inadequate on the site has become many times more

Like you always have, don't be upset

[your1970]

Under Stalin "

[your1970]

Read the production documents by him from the time of Stalin, you will be very surprised at what was happening then in the country .... Regarding the arbitrariness, then read about how General Zhigarev was lying to Stalin’s eyes and what career he had after that ...

[Sergey K.]

Quote: your1970

Read the production documents by him from the time of Stalin, you will be very surprised at what was happening then in the country .... Regarding the arbitrariness, then read about how General Zhigarev was lying to Stalin’s eyes and what career he had after that ...

Talk is not about that. It’s about you to be respected, when communicating, you don’t get personal. Do not allow yourself insults to other people if their point of view does not coincide with yours.

[your1970]

1) "I see someone wants to seem very smart." - this is the question of insults, yes, I admit my guilt, I really got excited and this couple of posts led me to this:

Quote: Sergey K.

Quote: Monos

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!!

As Comrade Stalin would say: "Shoot" ...

2) Before you blame everything on Stalin, just read the documents
3) judging by your aggressiveness, the right one is probably only your opinion

On the question of Bobokulova - yes, if it concerned me - there would be another conversation for which they would have already put me. But there is one thing - it is NOT possible to transfer the attitude of one individual to another on the relationship of the state to the same individual. Otherwise, just fascism, where the right way is the country 404.

[Luga]

Quote: Sergey K.

I look someone wants to seem very smart. Sometimes they write a lot of things on the fence too, but there are firewood, imagine? If this case happened during the reign of Joseph Vissarionovich, no one would even begin to understand.

Do you know what the problems of that time were in many ways? There were a lot of people who believed there was no time to understand, and it was not necessary. Many did not understand - chopped off the shoulder, so that the whole forest in chips. It happened, then regretted, as in 41.
The principle of Talion (eye for eye, tooth for tooth, life for life), which is proposed to be used here, is archaic and wild, modern Russian criminal legislation is much fairer. Mocking the wretched everybody. Let’s burn this nanny on Red Square at the stake like Jeanne dARC - he hears voices, which means a witch.
There is a law. According to this law, she is beyond jurisdiction because she is sick. Those. its actions are equated with the action of force majeure. One was killed by lightning, the other fell on the knife of a madman. It’s a pity only, it’s impossible to hang or shoot, but, thank God, you can. But whether to stand in a thunderstorm under a tree or to hire a lunatic for a child is up to everyone to decide and bear the responsibility for this choice.
And there is no need to remember Stalin on every occasion. Like, "he would ..." Nobody knew then and does not know now what Stalin would have done. He was unpredictable, despite his pragmatism, and that was his strength. It is quite possible that he would have decided that the aunt should be treated in a good hospital in humane conditions, and in Pravda to describe this case in all colors, so that others would think before hiring a stranger to the child, instead of sending him to a Soviet children's garden.

[Siberian]

Quote: your1970

ps after eliminating the inadequacies, the site has become many times more

I agree with you 100%

[Warrior with machine gun]

the news for VO is incomprehensible, but those who let it into the country must be sent to the forks ahead.

[Observer2014]

Warrior with machine gun

the news for VO is incomprehensible, but those who let it into the country must be sent to the forks ahead.

Does anyone know the statistics how many tuberculosis "irreplaceable specialists" are being launched by the authorities from there? I'm not talking about all kinds of psychos like this witch. How much do our authorities need to scoff at the Russian people by launching this into the country: Gulchekhra Bobokulova ?? Take all Russians out of there. Help with the evacuation of the graves of relatives. They are not just brothers. Everyone understands perfectly well about the support of state bureaucrats to the stream of absolutely unnecessary flow guest workers from there. Why do you (give them the power to work quotas !!!!! ???) Why ??? Why at every construction site a crowd taking bread from Russians ???

[Kovlad]

You are very cool to solve the problem. I give it as a living example: My cousin still lives in Uzbekistan, a Russian and her husband also has a Russian, 4 children, even during the most severe persecution of Russians, in the literal sense, they stood in front of the gates of the house and said: kill, WE won’t go anywhere, here are the graves of grandfather with grandmother, father and mother, kill right here, but WE won’t go anywhere! Here is our home!
And still live, are respected, the sister is a teacher of physics, mathematics, she graduated from the University in Orenburg.
AND YOU? Grave evacuation !!! Here it is better to refrain from continuing ...

[vsoltan]

Worthy Russian people. Respect.

[mik6403]

I think your story will not reassure those thousands of people who were forced to abandon everything acquired in Uzbekistan and run away without looking back ... my relatives left Havast after several tens of Russian-speaking families were cut out there ...

[esaul1950]

Oh, sorry for the canceled cons.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Kovlad

AND YOU? Grave evacuation !!! Here it is better to refrain from continuing ...

- I will continue if you will allow
- comrade Observer2014... not too smart person, to put it mildly, and is not responsible for his words
- argue with shkolota - it's more expensive for yourself. If you do not feed him for a long time, he himself will die out of boredom.

IMHO, yes

[kote119]

you are just a dirty, stupid provocateur, where admins look? he incites ethnic hatred

[Simpsonian]

you just know ...

Quote: Observer2014

Why ??? Why at every construction site a crowd taking bread from the Russians ???

All for the same reason, why should the "rabies" go to Europe, with those Russians who will not die out from artificially organized unemployment, they will then do the same thing that they did at home ... Try to enter any other country in the world, if not one of those highly qualified specialists there really isn't enough.

[Luga]

Quote: Observer2014

Does anyone know the statistics how many tuberculosis "irreplaceable specialists" are being launched by the authorities from there? I'm not talking about all kinds of psychos like this witch. How much do our authorities need to scoff at the Russian people by launching this into the country: Gulchekhra Bobokulova ?? Take all Russians out of there. Help with the evacuation of the graves of relatives. They are not just brothers. Everyone understands perfectly well about the support of state bureaucrats to the stream of absolutely unnecessary flow guest workers from there. Why do you (give them the power to work quotas !!!!! ???) Why ??? Why at every construction site a crowd taking bread from Russians ???

Oh my god, are you Russian yourself?
I am not a teacher of the Russian language and am myself sinful, but not to the same extent! And okay, what else would the message be, otherwise the author decided to protect the Russian people from non-Russian peoples.
Oh, our sins are grave, I do not need such defenders who do not speak the Russian language.

[siberalt]

And let’s shoot all the mentally ill at once, and then those who called for it, who smacks of Nazism. You look, it’ll become calmer.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: siberalt

And let’s shoot all the mentally ill at once, and then those who called for it, who smacks of Nazism.

Mentally ill persons who have done SIMILAR are subject to destruction for they are not even criminals - at least they realize the gravity of what they have done, and these are not even able to repent. And the rest of the mentally ill are just SICK and, until they do this, they need to be treated. (See "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" with J. Nokolson). Moreover, to treat cleverly, with medication, and not with a lobotomy or electroshock. I assure you, Oleg - I am far from Nazism so breathtaking. It’s just that I’m thinking not about this nutty guest worker, but about that girl .....

[vsoltan]

Halder, that Franz Josef, unlike you, protested against the destruction of the psychiatric hospital in Novgorod in 1941 ..... all the patients were distributed according to Russian standards. ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: vsoltan

Halder, that Franz Josef, unlike you, protested against the destruction of the psychiatric hospital in Novgorod in 1941 ..... All patients were distributed according to Russian standards. .

Remember the great movie Destiny ?? Remember the episode with the psychiatric hospital there? Where did the wife of the regional committee secretary go with the sick? Think a movie? Think fiction? So absolutely the same story was with my mother’s friend in Voronezh. And you will talk to me about the humanism of Halder and other Germans ?????? They weren’t just shot there - they drove around the field with tanks like hares, and the patient’s head could not even really run away from the tank. As soon as you have enough conscience to refer to the humanism of Halder, which Franz Josef ....It is a pity that the cons were canceled on the topvar. I would have loved Halder's "humanism" from the bottom of my heart ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I would have loved Halder's "humanism" from the bottom of my heart ....

Here's a little more about Franz Josef ... As Boris Borisych says - everything is written on Wikipedia .... This time is true

As a witness, Halder testified at the Nuremberg trials, where he stated that if Hitler had not interfered in military affairs, Germany could have made peace on “honorable” conditions in 1945: “Although it would not have been possible to win the war, it was possible, at least, to avoid a shameful defeat”.

And what were they, creatures, thinking on June 22, 41st? About avoiding "shameful defeat"? Not a hat for Senka, to fight with Russia ... Yes, and "Senka", you will find such a hell ...

[vsoltan]

Zoldat a

Your pseudonym is very interesting. ... rather, pogonyalovo. ..because of your comments I realized that you didn’t read Halder’s memoirs. ..but meanwhile, the recommendation was by no means a liar and books were published more than once in the Union. ..this is for you, Zoldat A.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: vsoltan

Your pseudonym is very interesting. ..

I already explained to someone here ... Soldat, Soldier and other digestible nicknames were sorted out when I somehow registered somewhere. So it happened through the "Z". And about Pogonyalovo ... Yes, it was ... There was a call sign, there was a nickname among the soldiers. I was not offended, it was not an evil nickname, on the contrary, it was respectful. Let the boys chat if it's more convenient for them .. ... And this nickname has nothing to do with Teutonic pride - on the contrary - because of their "pride in German weapons" I am now banned from entering Germany - they have been ported. So a pseudonym as a pseudonym, in the spirit of the current shkolota - "well, you understood what I wanted to write" - and on the grammar of us ... ...

Quote: vsoltan

Halder's memoirs you have not read. .

Why should I read "Cry of the Defeated Teuton"? I just need to know what role Halder played in the war against the Soviet Union. This forms my attitude towards him ...
Repeat

And what were they, creatures, thinking on June 22, 41st? About avoiding "shameful defeat"?

When the "Barbarossa" plan was being developed, then it was necessary to think and cry. And in May 45 - wipe the red snot and do not blather ... Here is my opinion about Halder.

[siberalt]

The fact is that an insane person is innocent a priori, so he does not understand what he is doing. But he's not a rabid animal! Let's start with the "lulling" of the mentally ill, which they have committed, then for prevention (just in case), then we will recognize the unwanted as such, then we will move on to ordinary patients so that the state does not spend on pills, then on the elderly to save on pensions, and so on ... Do you want that?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: siberalt

Let's start with the "lulling" of the mentally ill, which they have committed, then for prevention (just in case), then we will recognize the unwanted as such, then we will move on to ordinary patients so that the state does not spend on pills, then on the elderly to save on pensions, and so on ...

It seems that it is not your first year, Oleg, I read your comments ... Somehow it used to be more adequate, but now it looks like Gozman ..... Who, Oleg, helped you build such a "logical" scheme? I just said that ill patients who have committed serious crimes must be eliminated in the sense of preventing relapse. Because an adequate person may not commit a second crime because of fear of punishment. And the patient - according to FIG .... And let the quiet live quietly - they NEED to be treated. Long and patiently .... Have you read Steinbeck's "On Mice and Men"? Read, teaches a lot ...

[Simpsonian]

Punish so that one who is aware of their actions. Otherwise, it is wrong, and there should be a lifelong isolation.
with your "human mice" you just don't understand what you are writing about ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Simpsonian

with your "human mice" you just don't understand what you are writing about ...

I have lived a long enough and eventful life to understand what I am writing about and to be responsible for my words. And if for you the word "Steinbeck" is akin to the word "steak" - I am not to blame for your stupidity ....

[Simpsonian]

And have you seen a lot over the whole time insane, or read more and more books?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Simpsonian

And have you seen a lot over the whole time insane, or read more and more books?

There was enough of everything - I read books, saw the insane, and dragged more than one pair of ankle boots over the mountains. And there, in the war, there are no sane. There you will be smart - you will be "two hundredth". From there, and the absence of a difference in halftones - either white or black. Either you shoot or you don't shoot. And two higher educations - military and civil, I will not hide - leave their mark on the brain. But read about Steinbeck's mice and people, I recommend. Strictly on the topic of the article and on the issue of humanism .... Anyway, it's a strong thing.

[Simpsonian]

Many without berets seen insane?
So it looked badly ...
those crazy that are not sadists are almost like children who stick their fingers into a socket or the head from a doll into a nightstand.
a dislocated arm is not cut off and treated, especially the whole living person
What have the war and your berets? Go check yourself ...

[Zoldat_A]

I already wrote one today. The wrong place and the wrong person that I have to report and make excuses for something. And he wrote to him, I repeat to you - us ... to me on your excellent opinion, gov..no..s..nothing will be done. I'm tired of ..... Think what you want - an ensign-political officer (?), Eating sausage on a vegetable warehouse - I have to ... us and you on your opinion about me. They would say in person - the conversation would be different. And here are just the quirks of the keyboard. So have fun on health ... Flag in hand, a drum on the neck, tailwind in the back and a locomotive towards ....

[Simpsonian]

Nobody demands this from you, get out of your berets, and make sure to go down ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Simpsonian

get out of the berets, and make sure to go down ...

In my life, for more than twenty calendars, I have been checked so many times by various psychologists-neuropsychiatrs that an ordinary person will have enough for ten lives. And each time for some reason they said: "Good!" So I am so confident in my mental health that I can make assessments of the mental health of some other air defense individuals ...

[Simpsonian]

Are we already over doctors mean? Look next time, as if sneakers are not worn ...
it’s good that you are not my patient, but maybe it’s bad because you are already clearly reporting this issue.
And every time was the last time?

[vsoltan]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: siberalt

Let's start with the "lulling" of the mentally ill, which they have committed, then for prevention (just in case), then we will recognize the unwanted as such, then we will move on to ordinary patients so that the state does not spend on pills, then on the elderly to save on pensions, and so on ...

It seems that it is not your first year, Oleg, I read your comments ... Somehow it used to be more adequate, but now it looks like Gozman ..... Who, Oleg, helped you build such a "logical" scheme? I just said that ill patients who have committed serious crimes must be eliminated in the sense of preventing relapse. Because an adequate person may not commit a second crime because of fear of punishment. And the patient - according to FIG .... And let the quiet live quietly - they NEED to be treated. Long and patiently .... Have you read Steinbeck's "On Mice and Men"? Read, teaches a lot ...

And I’ve been reading you for several years. ... the opinion is a fascist, no, a stubborn chauvinist. That's all. You yourself confirm this with your statements. ...

[Simpsonian]

... no, he just clearly "does not understand" something.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: vsoltan

opinion is a fascist, no, stubborn chauvinist. That's all.

I am not a stubborn chauvinist, as you said. I am a man who grew up under Soviet rule, whom she taught to fight and who fought where she sent him. I gave as much power to that power as I could, and in return I also received it normally - it was enough for me. And the new democracy threw me out of my native army. Nothing, at the age of 45 I managed to get a second higher, civic education (I studied, not bought) and managed to adapt in this life too. But, as a man rooted in the army, I do not like different liberal nonsense. There is one correct line of history - and Russia in it. And the various Sakharov-Solzhenitsyn interpretations are nonsense. That's all my chauvinism ....

[kote119]

you are just natsik

[APASUS]

Honestly, they can heal in a hospital so that you yourself want death.

[Monos]

Quote: siberalt

And let’s shoot all the mentally ill at once, and then those who called for it, who smacks of Nazism. You look, it’ll become calmer.

Then you first need. After all, you are the only one here who suggested that ALL mentally ill people be shot.

[Stas157]

Quote: siberalt

And let's shoot all the mentally ill at once,

And that all patients cut their heads? Why are you socializing? It seems like a smart person! Hands scratched to write something against?

[sergeyzzz]

But I do not agree with the fact that maniacs are attributed to the mentally ill and are then kept at our expense. They also keep them in the very center of the 1,5 millionth city.

[mik6403]

And, in my opinion, this is a signal to those not poor people in our country who take on domestic workers from near and near abroad. First you need to thoroughly check a person, and only then let him in to his child. A bunch of cases, fortunately not so terrible, when people taken into "service" to the "masters" were complete inadequate .... And in general, gastrobaytars were dumbfounded by their dumping ... (first they are hired for a penny, and then they expect good quality services from them) ...

[Bekas1967]

What does the "poor people" have to do with it? The state has absolved itself of any responsibility for such sick children (((parents plow three jobs, medicines for their money, procedures too !!! WHAT DO WE DO ??? chesuny, ((((((((

[magician]

wrong. if a person is sick, then it is not his fault. The fault of those who allowed him to work. And humanly, I more like Sparta.))))

[ava09]

Those who pursue such a migration, and not only, policy need to be "fired". Previously, foreigners were not even allowed into the city, but arranged a marketplace not far from the city walls. And today, a mentally weakened man in the street, hires these foreigners to raise their children ... I have no phobias at the expense of Uzbeks and others, but still, I would prefer to meet them as guests, and not neighbors in the stairwell ...

[Bekas1967]

Datsik as your neighbors .... or fighters from "Azov" ... they are definitely not foreigners

[kote119]

and you L.P.B. in the next apartment

[ava09]

First, understand what a family is - a clan - a people ... And you Zion wanderer, it seems? Or just moron? Patients can be in any genus, but the genus is responsible for them, but where is the alien genus? So much for impunity, they will cure this terrorist at our expense and she will fly a white bird to her homeland. Do you think someone there will say a crooked word? And then again to people like you in the nanny, since there are no problems with documents ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ava09

they will cure this terrorist at our expense and she will fly a white bird to her homeland. Do you think someone there will say a crooked word? And then again to people like you in the nanny, since there are no problems with documents ..

That's a shame ... That's why I say - eye for eye (it’s not I who invented, by the way, but it is written in That Book). To the wall.

[ava09]

It is not worth remembering "That Book", it is for "God's servants", and the Russians are children of God, it is not for nothing that the initial letter "Az" in the true language has the image: "God, who lives and creates on earth, I am". We have to act in accordance with Kon Roda, in this case, in Justice ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ava09

Do not remember "That Book"

I don’t really remember ... I don’t believe in God or in devil. I believe in three things - Kalashnikov, VDV and myself. They won't sell and won't refuse. And I believe more in the first two. And I remembered "Tu Book" solely for the sake of "eye for an eye" ....

[ava09]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I believe in three things - Kalashnikov, Airborne Forces and myself. They will not sell or refuse.

Well, quite reliable things ...) Only with "I myself", not everything is unambiguous - it develops, and in order to further "negotiate" with your "Ego" (second I), you need an inner step (stove from which "dance"), or understanding the Nature of Things ... Good luck.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ava09

with "I myself", not everything is unambiguous - it develops, and in order to "negotiate" with your "Ego" (second I) in the future, you need an inner step (the stove from which you "dance"), or an understanding of the Nature of Things. ..

Such an age, an experience such that the inner core not only developed, but managed to rust Now Wisdom is slowly coming - an understanding of the Nature of Things ... It is a pity that this usually happens too late - you don’t need it yourself, but the young people don’t listen, they all want to gather the cones of the world. What am I talking about? Itself was the same a few decades ago ...

[ava09]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It is a pity that this usually happens too late - you don’t need to do it yourself, but the young ones don’t listen, they all want to gather the cones of the world. What am I talking about? Itself was the same a few decades ago ...

So everyone was like that, and why? We knocked out the Clan roots, and through them the connection of generations ... I apologize, I did not realize about your age ...)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ava09

We knocked out the Clan roots, and through them the connection of generations ... I apologize, I did not realize about your age ...)

Yes, I’m not talking about the roots, but about the fact that youth is strength and old age is wisdom. Alas! To connect one with the other - power with wisdom - no one succeeds. I would now return with my brains to my 25 years - so where can I get them ....

[svp67]

This news is important, of course, but what does it have to do with Military Review?

[dumpy15]

I agree with you. Probably, for that there is such news, then to be banned for "incitement ... and insult."

[Vladimirets]

Dr. Bormental has not been seen for a long time, would you ask him, but can this be cured?

[lis-ik]

This is not treated, most likely there and give the ends. In our country they don’t let out such people, at least it used to be.

[vsoltan]

I will answer for him: no way. This is SCH, in Russian - schizophrenia. Who was cured and when? What are the "pitchforks"? Sick person. ..will be locked up in a durka, made a vegetable, sent home.

[Stanislas]

Quote: vsoltan

Who was cured and when?

R. Laing, they say, was getting some results.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Quote: Monos

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!! For such a need to quarter!

Pitchfork, that's fine, but will it bring the baby back? And where is the guarantee that the next "nanny" is on friendly terms with the "roof"?

[Sagittarius]

It’s somehow unfair, this reptile has committed such a serious crime, and now she will be treated for the money of our taxpayers, including through my taxes, something I don’t like.

[kote119]

why don’t you pee for the money of officials who let it go to the Russian Federation, or maybe they’re throwing foliage in your yard, and you are watching quietly?

[lis-ik]

And do not cheaply take someone without getting, especially to the child. After all, there were cases, then at the construction of the house Gaster whoever they finish, then after good they will climb with a brutal outcome. And after all, everyone knows, but they think that this is not about them. Citizens be careful, turn on the brain, not greed.

[sergeyzzz]

This child certainly will not return, but life will save another.

[Ham]

another bobokulova ... will now live in a quiet hospital and devour money from Russian taxpayers;)
for example, I don’t want to feed any bobocule

[vsoltan]

You don’t want to - so what are the problems? Calculate what a fool she is and take revenge. ... what is the use of chatting? The question is not that the mentally ill were allowed to work in Russia. .. the question is that the authorities want freebies. ... how much they pay there, Gaster? Russian will not go to such a penny, our life is more expensive. ... therefore, young, healthy Russian people without work. ... any housing and communal services is more profitable to hire Asians. ..this is not a special case of Bobokulova’s disease, it is a disease of the state and society.

[Ham]

what is it that I should avenge her that you write nonsense ...
I just think that if a citizen of something is insane psychopath, then let her be kept in the bastard of the country whose citizenship she has

[tolyasik0577]

easily got off. This simply does not fit in my head.

[Petr1]

Quote: tolyasik0577

easily got off

Well, this is from which direction to look, if she had also been made like she was a poor girl, then her torment would not have lasted long, but now she is an experimental bobocule rabbit officially recognized by the court of the Russian Federation, and now she will have to tighten. They usually will not last long.

[lis-ik]

Not easy. In the zone, everything will be better.

[Moskal 55]

Most likely, during this compulsory treatment, the patient will soon become a "vegetable", and then she will get sick and die ...
But what does the "Military Review" have to do with it ?!

[wasjasibirjac]

in prison at least there is a beginning and an end to the term. at

hospital of a specialized medical institution

there will be no end of term. will remain in the psychiatric hospital until the end of his days. Amen.

[demotivator]

Now, under an interstate agreement between the Russian Federation and Uzbekistan, Bobokulova will be transferred to Uzbekistan for her "treatment". It is very likely that in Uzbekistan she will immediately be released. A striking example is N. Savchenko, who was sentenced by a court in Moscow to several years in prison and was transferred to Ukraine to serve her sentence there. Immediately upon arrival in Ukraine, she was released from serving her sentence. And even she came to Moscow, where no one detained her. I would not be surprised if, within a few days after the transfer of Bobokulova to Uzbekistan, she again finds herself in Moscow and again looks for a nanny job in Moscow families.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: demotivator

A striking example is N. Savchenko, who was sentenced by a court in Moscow to several years in prison and was transferred to Ukraine to serve her sentence there. Immediately upon arrival in Ukraine, she was released from serving her sentence. And even she came to Moscow, where no one detained her.

You, at least, studied the history of the issue, Savchenko was decreeed by the president by the decree of the President, and not transferred to serve his sentence.

[de_monSher]

Now, under an interstate agreement between the Russian Federation and Uzbekistan, Bobokulova will be transferred to Uzbekistan for her "treatment".

This is unlikely - here she will just rot in prison. And who is this "Uzbek woman" with whom "Allah" speaks Tajik?

[vsoltan]

Do you understand what you write? It’s a pity, the minuses were abolished. ... I would put a full bag in you.

[mr.redpartizan]

Even if they give her to the Uzbeks, they will not let her go. This reptile is dangerous, so it will die in the zone.

[Demeter]

Here's my question too - When will the head of the Federal Migration Service of the Russian Federation Romodanovsky and his whole company be put on trial for the reason that frankly dangerous animals come to Russia through their fault?!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Demeter

Here's my question too - When will the head of the Federal Migration Service of the Russian Federation Romodanovsky and his whole company be put on trial for the reason that frankly dangerous animals come to Russia through their fault?!

- did you think about the "question" for a long time?

[Demeter]

Twist yourself at the temple, for crimes against the people, sooner or later, will have to answer, and the FMS has rotted completely.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Demeter

... for crimes against the people, sooner or later, will have to answer ...

- if there are crimes, then probably
- in what is described in the article, I personally do not observe the FMS specifically

Quote: Demeter

FMS rotted completely

- You are probably a major specialist in this matter.

Quote: Demeter

Twist yourself at the temple ...

- Anything here unicellular will tell me what to do ... phe

[Demeter]

I am not interested in the opinion of a Norwegian forest cat, go catch mice

[Cat man null]

Quote: Demeter

... Norwegian forest cat ...

- Your illiteracy is comparable only with your bad manners (s)

Quote: Vika

Manul is distributed in Central and Central Asia, from the South Caucasus and western Iran to Transbaikalia, Mongolia and Northwest China

- and now - show me here Norway

Quote: Demeter

... go catch the mice ...

- well, so I catch ... the last that I got is called Demeter

[Demeter]

There are many not high opinions about you here, so do not rot your fingers. I am not interested in the opinion of a person from the coast of Norway.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Demeter

There are many not high opinions about you here.

- I myself am about the "many here" low ... so everything is symmetrical, as it should be in nature. And that's okay.
“I'm not a girl to be liked by everyone.” Don't have a goal like be
- It’s your happiness that the minuses have been canceled - with your erudition and manner of speaking, you would be on the site ... wouldn’t be late, believe me

Quote: Demeter

I'm not interested in the opinion of a person from the coast of Norway

- with this, not to me, but to Hydrogen sulfideuh ... ugh, to Phosgene- uh. About Norway - this gave birth to his inflamed brain

Like this ...

[Demeter]

You are a gracious sovereign on this site who has a reputation for narcissism, frankly hamaty, stupid and uncompromising torso that you do not even want to talk to. Maybe that's why you yourself pester people who are deeply disgusting to you ?! You have no one to talk to ?! Get yourself a hamster. Then yesterday I already came across one Troll, which regretted that the minuses were canceled and threatened to drown someone personally in them. Suppose each of you has a thousand accounts on this site and you could put a bunch of minuses, but I don’t give a damn about your minuses and your opinion. You are not interested in my opinion and you consider me someone like a monkey, I have a similar opinion about you and do not write to me anymore. It is such narcissistic and uncompromising louts like you that brought Russia to the Civil War in 1917.

[Razvedka_Boem]

It is very likely that in Uzbekistan she will be immediately released.

Why did you decide that? She will not come out.

[Demeter]

Yes, there have already been examples when a body that committed a crime in the Russian Federation and escaped abroad was not punished there, so the people do not believe such `` justice '' and it is quite justified.

[Banishing liberoids]

Creature, in the worst sense of the word -that for the like, the death penalty is needed, otherwise it will be foolish and feed it at the expense of the people.

[RUSIVAN]

These feeds are not at our expense, but exclusively by their own bowel movements until they die ...

[vfqjh]

First of all, how did she end up in Russia?

[Sergey333]

And it doesn’t matter: to shoot, to wrap in a pork skin and to burn, and to scatter ashes.

[kote119]

wrap yourself around a canvas, wrap yourself around with a shkert, a pebble is heavier and he will somersault in Russian in the pool

[vanavatny]

still playing moronic pseudo-humanism, looking back at the, enlightened, European? is the poor man sick? and what can be cured? and if relapse, and next to a child? for some reason rabid animals euthanized - with what special relation to her? Do you have a passport and upright walking distinguish it from a sick dog? than? I want guarantees that it will never come out of some kind of stone bag, if you really can’t bury it

[semuel]

What if he drinks poison or stabs himself in the heart ten times, accidentally steps out of the window on the ground floor so that his head flies off to the side, there are a lot of options, she is sick.

[garnik]

It is necessary to euthanize, there will be no sense from treatment. I think relatives will agree to this if the patient’s maintenance rests entirely on their shoulders. Regardless of nationality.

[Odysseus]

1) The topic is not for HE, but socially significant
2) The verdict is monstrous. It destroys society. I recall that the very essence of justice is not even to punish the offender, but to prevent the recurrence of offenses. You can’t do what you’ve done, but a sentence should reduce the likelihood of a similar occurrence.
What conclusion will criminals make for themselves from this sentence? Yes, it’s such that you can safely kill children, and you won’t get anything for it. Prison psychiatry, of course, is not sugar, but it is still not the highest measure. Yes, and for a citizen of a foreign state (if there is an agreement) there is the possibility of serving a sentence yourself in the country.
As a result, the verdict does not reduce the possibility of repeating this, but rather increases it.
It should, if we unfortunately have no capital punishment, sentence her to life, and then quickly kill him in the colony, and disseminate this information so that it is clear to everyone that this is essentially the highest measure.
PS Regarding her insanity, the law does prescribe the exemption of the mentally ill from criminal liability, but in the case of especially socially significant and / or especially dangerous crimes, psychiatrists went on to recognize the offender as sane.

[Orionvit]

Quote: mr.redpartizan

Only the highest measure, no other way. Stop playing in the tolerance and brotherhood of nations.

If by the highest measure, you mean lifelong, then this is not enough. It is necessary to return the death penalty, banned to please the West.

[Sergey333]

When you look at such "insane" faces, you realize that the death penalty is imperative. Human waste must be disposed of on time, and not kept at our expense in prisons.

[kote119]

Quote: Sergey333

When you look at such "insane" faces, you realize that the death penalty is imperative.

and show your mug, maybe you also scrapped. Do not take on much.

[magician]

roll, roll, roll! firstly: not her on the dock, but the agency that recommended her, employed her. secondly: it's time to finish the game on cheap labor force, it goes sideways. From Asia and the Caucasus, we mainly get an illiterate and unskilled labor force that comes to work for us. It's a shame for 90 years, their fathers came out with slogans "Stay Ruski, we need slaves" (a mistake from the original), children are certainly not responsible for their fathers, but they have no work above the janitor or we will reap the results of it in the near future. The janitor sprinkles the pavement with an anti-icing compound from the heart, his hands are already red from allergies, pouring concrete as necessary, building mana! Recently I made him write an application for an advance payment: an example, the word advance in the author's statement: avvansts. We are driven in minibuses by drivers who have bought a license, as in a joke: three pedals, two feet, how will I drive? I am not a nationalist, I have acquaintances from Asia and the Caucasus whom we did not allow or they themselves could not occupy a worthy niche in our society. Competent teachers, engineers from the formerly union republics work as janitors and at construction sites as auxiliary workers, but any shalupony works by those on whom our life and health depend.

[magician]

Quote: vfqjh

First of all, how did she end up in Russia?

who employed her? Where is this company and what responsibility has it incurred?

[siberalt]

Quote: lis-ik

This is not treated, most likely there and give the ends. In our country they don’t let out such people, at least it used to be.

Are you a doctor? There are quite a few cases when patients who committed murders were cured in a state of insanity. So what? And there are cases when at the time of the investigation and consideration of the case in court a person is already sane, but there was a "clouding of mind" (a moment of insanity) during the commission of the act. Such people are acquitted and sent, including for outpatient observation at the place of residence.

[magician]

but more seriously, what do we have left over? The collapse of the USSR What did the former Soviet republics of the USSR lead to? They returned to the period when we wanted to introduce them into socialism from underdeveloped feudalism. The period when labor discipline and the culture of production were inculcated with a stick and a whip were safely sucked into being a part of the USSR. Result: more than 70 years lived on subsidies of the RSFSR, USSR, BSSR. Now complete feudalism and a clan structure, not everyone has strong leaders and resources, and a look at the future. they can be listed on the fingers of one hand.))) Conclusion: it has become difficult to live, go to a place where you can at least somehow find a job and earn money. Europe does not shine, but Russia will accept those whom it once tamed to a feeding trough.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Only the guillotine will cure her.

[esaul1950]

Quote: vsoltan

The stupidity and cruelty of some comments on the site is surprising. ..have never heard of psychiatry?

I agree on this site de ... s more and more.

[vsoltan]

The time has come to ask the Administration questions. ... why so?

[pilot8878]

It is necessary to return the HIGHEST MEASURE OF SOCIAL PROTECTION - the death penalty. For crimes against childhood, against the state, premeditated murders, manufacture and sale of drugs there should be only one punishment - death.

[jovanni]

Yes, she is a witch!

[kote119]

so they took the witch, they don’t care who they took, only cheaper

[Incvizitor]

Parents who take a guest nanny to the child from the street should be treated themselves.

[Hapfri]

Right now, six months will be treated - and to freedom.

[Anton Boldakov]

I think the parents of the murdered girl reason like you and will arrange a "warm meeting" when she is released.

[Anton Boldakov]

The fact that she had trouble with her head was clear from the very beginning.

[Bekas1967]

Why would this "news" come here ??? to let off some comrades?

[Coconut]

why do not we have the death penalty for people like her .... ??? what country should feed these nonhumans? if you met a wolf in the forest and he is determined to have lunch for you .. I’ll personally fill up the wolf immediately with what kind of courts ... to tumble like a mad animal

[kote119]

she did not go in the woods

[Demeter]

Well, that’s right, ”but now they’ll be treated for a couple of years and released. How much did the diaspora pay to the corrupt judge and the prosecutor, and when will the corrupt officials be hanged on lampposts ?!

[kote119]

1. she is mentally ill
2. why such news on the site
3. Who is to blame for such a woman appearing in Our field?
4 . and parents, the FMS, the police are not involved in the death of the girl?

[German Titov]

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!! For such a need to quarter!

In Russia, as in all countries, the court recognizes sanity (insanity). The head is not "cybernetics, you know". Faced with this, that's why I'm making my own review. "On the pitchfork, quartered", "it was known and ate." Someone hired her? Someone else recommended it? Well, whoever has encountered the "mentally ill" will understand me. Children (if they don't lose something, they will break it). There is a desire "for pitchfork", "quartered" - "do" (who you will be after that). There is a desire, "yes zhovto-blakitny" in your hands, as followers of Adolf Aloizovich - "all in the furnace."

[Cat man null]

Quote: German Titov

In Russia, as in all countries, sanity is recognized by the court

- as there "in all countries" - not in the courses, but in the Russian Federation there is psychiatric examination
- may appoint a forensic psychiatric examination both the court and the investigating authorities.

That's something like

[Comrade]

Well, even though they managed to shoot Chikatilo, today they would have stood up for him with a mountain.

[your1970]

Quote: Comrade

Well, even though they managed to shoot Chikatilo, today they would have stood up for him with a mountain.

OK good!!!!
There is only one small nuance - for his crimes another before that they shot ... And it’s absolutely not a 100% proven fact (the Lord God, who ALL knows everything too far, and people tend to make mistakes) - that it was Chikatilo who committed those crimes ... Maybe this can happen ... it may well ...

[Serhiodjan]

The demon whispered this to her, and she accepted Allah. In other words schizophrenia

[elenagromova]

It is also a shame that the affected family, as well as the owners of the apartment set on fire, no longer reimburse any compensation from it. Like, sick, bribes are smooth ...

[MMX]

The court, as it should be in a civilized country, acted according to the law. There is a psychiatric examination (and it is always prescribed for such crimes), from which it follows: the defendant is insane due to mental disorder (schizophrenia) and did not realize what he was doing. In such circumstances, criminal liability is excluded and the defendant is sent to compulsory treatment (closed-type special hospitals, but in fact a prison for mentally ill people who are dangerous to society due to their illness).
What news is something ???
Why is it necessary for VO to discuss this ???

[demotivator]

In recent years, Russian justice has not ceased to amaze. That gives the thieves officials conditional sentences, and commoners for less serious crimes - real ones. Now they have distinguished themselves from this Bobokul judge. If the nanny, who cut off the child’s head because of her radical religious views (which she spoke about), is recognized as mentally ill, then she’s released from criminal liability and all ISIS executioners need to be treated. Oh, they cut the heads of oh oh her! Yes, and the judge also refused to compensate for the damage from the fire that this nanny arranged in the apartment of the owners. I dream that at least one of the judges would find themselves in the position of unhappy victims - the child would be brutally killed, the apartment would be burned, and no one would answer. Well, there must be at least some justice in the world ?!

[your1970]

Quote: demotivator

Yes, and the judge also refused to compensate for the damage from the fire that this nanny arranged in the apartment of the owners.

- it is not subject to criminal liability in connection with incapacity, only in civil procedure

[kit-kat]

I believe that the Nazis did the right thing with the mentally ill. They are dangerous and useless for society and humanity as a whole.

[your1970]

and also children, old people, people with disabilities, they are all useless for society and humanity, some expenses for them ... And there are also separate nations that are harmful to everyone, including all of humanity ...
At the pace of you can be attracted by the decision of Nuremberg ...

[kit-kat]

I agree with the nations.

[Demeter]

You in vain put on one step a young child and a rabid dog, these are two different things.

[Yes I am Russian]

Quote: Monos

Sane, not sane - on pitchfork !!!! For such a need to quarter!

It seems you are also insane and do not give a report to your words. Everything is simple for you. You are not aware that a person is simply sick. What is the demand from her if she was lousy? I grieve over the deceased girl. The kingdom of heaven to her. But I also feel sorry for the very one that flew off the coils. God forbid someone to experience this.
And in your head a couple of convolutions. There is nothing to analyze information.

[alavrin]

In a year or two he will be cured - he will go to the nanny again.
They won’t even be able to deport her

[Signore Tomato]

In the town where I live, one such walked with a hammer in his hands. Six broke his head. Three of them pushed the skis away forever.
They said that he already had this - he was lying in a psychiatric hospital. They said that this time, too, in a couple of years they would be released "cured".

[Razvedka_Boem]

But what others did not stop him? This chizanut also with the head of the child how much has passed and how many people looked at it?
Can this society itself hurt?

[Hort]

Well, there may even be forced treatment and harder in terms of punishment - if ever comes out of there, it will already be a vegetable

[Zomanus]

Well, I hope that they will treat it qualitatively, to the state of a vegetable.
Although of course it is better to immediately execute, for example, let peroxide through a vein.

[Demeter]

These need to be immediately `` treated '' from the PM to the back of the head

[raid14]

Poor doctor ... It turned out to be powerless and his forty years of experience
a psychiatrist. He never found out, and if he had been told, he would hardly have believed that all the symptoms, reflexes and syndromes had been worked out and "delivered" by Ivasheva in the Konigsberg clinic of Professor Hassel.
I saw her a week later during the investigation: an absolutely meaningful, cold look, pursed lips, proud posture, contempt and hatred in all guises. She categorically refused to answer questions, was silent until the very end, however, convicted by the testimony of a radio operator and material evidence, she was convicted and shot.
"The Moment of Truth" or "In August 44" Bogomolov V.O.

[Cat man null]

Quote: raid14

"The Moment of Truth" or "In August 44" Bogomolov V.O.

- good book
- But what did you quote? Or, in your opinion, is this chuchmechka with brains on one side also an Abwehr agent?

[raid14]

Maybe she pretends just as well or the "bought" doctors "taught her" and "diagnosed" her.

[Cat man null]

Quote: raid14

Maybe pretending to be just as good ...

- mdya ... somewhere here the horse grazes Spiroology
- without special (and very serious) training is unrealistic, believe me.

Quote: raid14

"bought" doctors "taught her" and "diagnosed"

- who bought?
- why bought?
- don’t pull the owl ... and again - somewhere around here the same horse is nearby

[raid14]

The "high-profile case" (murder of a child with particular cruelty) was put on the "brakes" (fool, what to take from her), so as not to incite hatred (protest sentiments against migrants, the main cheap labor force of megacities) among Russians, against "brothers and" sisters "from Central Asia.
After a certain number of days, months, years (when the passions subside), she will be "amnestied" and released for treatment at home. Who "made or paid for this order" is another question.

[Cat man null]

Quote: raid14

The "high-profile case" ... was put on the "brakes" ... so as not to incite hatred among Russians against "brothers and sisters" from Central Asia ...

- my applause to your imagination
- since information about the crime has already spread, everything that could be "summoned" from Russians to "brothers and sisters" is already "summoned", no?
- the court and the verdict in this regard are much less critical than the fact of the crime

Quote: raid14

After a certain number of days, months, years (when the passions subside), she will be "amnestied" and released to her homeland for treatment ...

- mdy ...
- I saw myself how they make a plant out of violent in 2 - 3 days
- moreover, none of the staff is particularly offended by him ... so, I'm just tired
- IMHO, the attitude in this fool will be more ... um ... biased

Quote: raid14

Who "made or paid for this order" is another question

- Yes, there is no him, this question, you came up with it for yourself

[raid14]

For what. then all this "hype" in the media is needed, she would be imprisoned for life and that's it.
When the matter is on the "target" of the media (it can be used by both the right and the wrong), you simply cannot "jump off" and hush up either.
For example: Vasiliev in the Serdyukov case, after house arrest, "Rafik is not guilty"

[Cat man null]

Quote: raid14

For what. then all this "hype" in the media is needed ...

- it's all freedom of speech and press, biomat ...

Quote: raid14

would put her for life and all

- the period of "treatment" in Durka, by the way, can be extended indefinitely, practically
- What is better than life-long, can you answer?

Quote: raid14

When the matter is on the "target" of the media, (it can be used by both the right and the wrong) you simply cannot "jump off" and hush up either.

- I do not see that "the case was hushed up"
- the accused was recognized insane
- no more, no less. And all

Quote: raid14

For example: Vasiliev in the case of Serdyukov, after house arrest

- compared ... a vegetable with a finger ... you yourself are in a sober mind, excuse me?
- otherwise you have some tendency to complicate simple, in general, things.
- Against Occam's Razor, Practical

[vsoltan]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: ava09

they will cure this terrorist at our expense and she will fly a white bird to her homeland. Do you think someone there will say a crooked word? And then again to people like you in the nanny, since there are no problems with documents ..

That's a shame ... That's why I say - eye for eye (it’s not I who invented, by the way, but it is written in That Book). To the wall.

Do you remember the Jewish Bible? Or Torah? And you distinguish from the Gospel, according to the canon of which the Orthodox live? Or are you all one?

[demotivator]

Quote: Yes

You are not aware that a person is simply sick. What is the demand from her if she was lousy?

It’s good to reason if the law is the same for all the insane. Then everything would be right. But, in Russia, as always, the law acts selectively and the Russian Themis again gives reason to doubt its impartiality. And actually some very strange priorities for Russian humanism. This picture illustrates this idea in the best possible way. Indeed, why not take the same Bobokulov for forced labor until the end of his life, like the same guy Koptsev? After all, she committed a much more serious crime than he did ........

[Razvedka_Boem]

So there the Jew was injured.