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Tokyo promised to retaliate in connection with the deployment of missile complexes in the Kuriles

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The Japanese government will take appropriate measures in connection with the deployment of Russian complexes on the islands of Kunashir and Iturup, reports RIA News statement by the country's foreign minister Fumio Kisida.


Tokyo promised to retaliate in connection with the deployment of missile complexes in the Kuriles
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On Tuesday, the newspaper of the Pacific Fleet “Combat Watch” reported on the deployment of the Ball and Bastion complexes in the Kuril Islands. “The personnel of the missile battalions are preparing for the next shooting practice,” the publication says.

“We attach serious importance to this, and after clarification we will react accordingly”,
declared the Japanese minister.

He added that "to solve such problems, it is necessary to solve the problem of the northern territories (ie, the four islands, which Tokyo claims to)).

Earlier, Sergei Shoigu reported that the “unified coastal defense system is being created in the Far East - from the southern coast of Primorye to the Arctic,” which is necessary “to ensure control of the flood zones of the Kuril Islands and the Bering Strait, and cover the routes for the deployment of Pacific forces fleet in the Far Eastern and northern sea zones, as well as improving the combat stability of marine strategic nuclear forces. "
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RIA News. Vitaly Ankov
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  1. rasputin17
    rasputin17 23 November 2016 11: 10
    +12
    The response will be the deployment of missile defense elements and an increase in the mattress contingent!
    1. The black
      The black 23 November 2016 11: 11
      +19
      As usual, our Western colleagues say - why are you howling, we just strengthen our eastern borders, and in our country, in contrast to the western, our eastern borders are in the other hemisphere. Well, and who is Russia threatening? So don’t howl! smile
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 23 November 2016 11: 13
        +14
        Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!
        1. WKS
          WKS 23 November 2016 11: 18
          +18
          Tokyo promised to retaliate in connection with the deployment of missile complexes in the Kuriles
          Since the missile systems are anti-ship, the response must be appropriate - ship. No need to dart on military ships near our shores.
          1. Giant thought
            Giant thought 23 November 2016 11: 30
            +15
            After the planned deployment of the C-400 complex on the islands, the Japanese will generally have to put their tongue in the ass and forget about the military solution to their claims to our Kuril Islands.
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            2. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 23 November 2016 12: 11
              +2
              Quote: Thought Giant
              and forget about the military solution of their claims to our Kuril Islands in general.

              Was there a military decision? winked
              1. cniza
                cniza 23 November 2016 13: 17
                +5
                Quote: rasputin17
                The response will be the deployment of missile defense elements and an increase in the mattress contingent!


                But not on our islands, as mattresses wanted.
                1. rasputin17
                  rasputin17 26 November 2016 18: 44
                  0
                  And it just remains for these spineless terpils that on YOUR islands to accept, place and continue to endure and rejoice that they had them and will have them !!
              2. 73bor
                73bor 24 November 2016 01: 10
                0
                Three years ago, there was a question of a military decision on the Kuril Islands, but Shoigu's misfortune was replaced by Serdyukov, and a year ago the operation in Syria began!
            3. ava09
              ava09 23 November 2016 13: 10
              +1
              For some reason, no one paid attention to the rude interference of the Japanese minister in the internal affairs of the Independent State. Maybe "RF" is not so independent? Although what am I talking about? The metropolis has no constitutions, constitutions are written for the colonies. Stalin tried to build life according to the "people's constitution", but who would allow such "liberties"? Khrushch then undertook to "correct the mistakes of the Personality Cult" ...
          2. Mikado
            Mikado 23 November 2016 12: 25
            +16
            IMHO, I think the problem here is a little deeper. I live in St. Petersburg and know little about the Far East, although I would love to visit there. And I say to all my employees - "we are wildly lucky that we work in St. Petersburg, where there is a large area for our activities."
            Why did I say this. By installing the next missiles and guns, we will not solve anything, or rather, we will solve, but temporarily. Now about 18-19 thousand people live in the Kuril Islands. Some of them are military, that is, "temporary people." The Far East must be settled, the population, infrastructure, business must be increased, there and so, where you do not spit - natural resources. If we have beyond the Urals, excuse me, figuratively, one tenth of the population, twenty of the funding and one central road is very bad. We went through the logistics problems during the Russo-Japanese War, we have been transferring a division to the Far East for several months, while the Japanese have large cities within a day's sail. A hundred years have passed, but little has changed. Moreover, I suppose, if hypothetically, the Japanese "squeezed" the Far East from us a hundred years ago, there would now be large cities with developed infrastructure. Now there is an even larger player - China.
            That is, in order to adequately and confidently feel in the Far East, targeted comprehensive programs are needed - for the population, for business development. Now there are such programs, but I did not read the text. And do not forget that in our country, where you have not allocated money, half of it is stolen everywhere. Respectfully, hi
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 23 November 2016 12: 38
              +8
              Quote: Mikado
              The Far East must be inhabited, the population, infrastructure, business must be increased, and so on, wherever you spit it - natural resources. If we have beyond the Urals, sorry, figuratively, a tenth of the population, a twentieth of the financing and one central road - this is very bad.

              Absolutely correct. Basically, the population seeks to move to the central part of the country. Everything beyond the Urals, and even more so in the Far East, remains empty. But people come there, yes they come - these are Chinese. The Russians are leaving - the Chinese are coming. Well, why, the Chinese are fine there. Especially those who lived in China below the poverty line.
              P.E. We need infrastructure, not only military but also civilian. Developed logistics.

              Because, well, imagine, in the event of an invasion of China, our population will not even be there, only the Chinese. Well, the military. And if there is an underground, then it’s not Russian at all, but already Chinese. Everything, everyone has left. Why did you leave? But because there is no prospect and economic attractiveness.

              P.E. This is a very serious question.
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 23 November 2016 12: 43
                +3
                here I am about the samedrinks With a minimum population that needs normal living conditions, a developed economy, industry, transport, in other words, business development and money, no missiles and guns will help sooner or later, no matter how much we would like to. But demography in general must be raised ..
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 23 November 2016 12: 49
                  +2
                  Quote: Mikado
                  here I am talking about the same thing. With a minimum population that needs normal living conditions, a developed economy, industry, transport, in other words, business development and money, no missiles and guns will help sooner or later, no matter how much we would like to. But demography in general must be raised ..

                  drinks I agree)

                  And then I say, the Chinese decide to seize part of Siberia. Such people come (on tanks) and there Mlyn is all his own))) It's ridiculous as a heart attack, but still, there is a joke in every joke)
              2. 73bor
                73bor 24 November 2016 01: 16
                +1
                I still remember these nonsense "bazaars" in the early 90s, and where are your Chinese? They will work and leave, problems with assimilation, like this! If you want, the Chinese never lived north of Manchuria only on the coast.
            2. cannabis
              cannabis 23 November 2016 13: 25
              +1
              Our land belongs to our people and the right of our people to keep it clean and inviolable. Give free rein to our "economists", "industrialists" and "traders", so they will sell water from Lake Baikal, cut down forests, poison rivers with garbage and industrial waste. Nobody sees (does not show on TV) what is happening in the north of Siberia as a result of "activities" for the extraction of oil and gas. The entire north is polluted, while the track from the all-terrain vehicle in the tundra is overgrown for 10-15 years. So let the islands be our natural park. Well, in extreme cases, you can build rest houses or camp sites there.
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 23 November 2016 13: 53
                0
                means, probably, there should be control from the state? I am not saying that it is necessary to "crush business", but it is, of course, necessary to control at least the damage to nature. Such a thing as a "business culture" has been nurtured for decades, under the vigilant state control. And, unfortunately, we are still living in an era of change. And at the top we do not have such a concept as "responsibility", which should also be part of the business culture. Nothing, everything will settle down, give time. And new people will be born, and their brains will be arranged differently.
                1. cannabis
                  cannabis 23 November 2016 14: 05
                  0
                  I will say this - the life of peoples on the planet is "dirty" by governments and states.
                  1. Mikado
                    Mikado 23 November 2016 14: 24
                    0
                    but chaos and anarchy should also not be ..
            3. Sergey956
              Sergey956 23 November 2016 14: 26
              +2
              Regarding the integrated development of the Far East, I agree 100%. I drove across Russia from Vladivostok to Krasnodar by car alone. Time to think and analyze - was. All civilization in Russia is located in the European part and a little in Siberia in front of the Urals. In other places in Siberia and the Far East, civilization is spotted. It's a shame for the Power!
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 23 November 2016 14: 30
                0
                and financial flows are also at the center.
                1. 73bor
                  73bor 24 November 2016 01: 19
                  0
                  Yes, only for what shisha did Khoroshavin grab such wealth? Maybe they sent it from the other side of the ocean?
            4. ghby
              ghby 23 November 2016 14: 34
              +1
              Quote: Mikado
              Now about 18-19 thousand people live in the Kuril Islands. Some of them are military, that is, "temporary people." The Far East must be settled, the population, infrastructure, business must be increased, there and so, where you do not spit - natural resources.

              The Kuril Islands are primarily a natural fence that turns the Sea of ​​Okhotsk into our inland, plus natural and biological resources. In this direction, development should go. It seems to me that there is no sense in saturating the islands with civilians who are not engaged in the extraction of natural resources. Which does not detract from the idea of ​​the development of the Far East. Here is a bridge or tunnel to Sakhalin to build it yes, and connect it with a bridge with Japan. Thus, it seems to me that we will very much tie Japan to ourselves.
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 23 November 2016 14: 40
                0
                to tie to oneself is a double-edged sword. The Japanese will smile, but only think about own nation - they also have a kind of centuries-old nationalism. And they will always respect power. We need a normal modern development of our territories. For example, it’s disgusting to me that many fish processing plants closed in the Leningrad Region, because it’s cheaper to buy fish from sprats and Norwegians (who are they?). We have tremendous potential, which, if it is being mastered, then in someone’s pockets! We must be strong ourselves.
        2. The black
          The black 23 November 2016 11: 18
          +15
          Quote: STARPER
          ... We will talk normally with the Japs!

          Yes, what to talk about with them. What's the argument? What problems?
          There is absolutely no problem with these islands. It was resolved back in 1945. By the way, the United States then agreed. So there are no problems here. Amen. smile
          1. OLD FART
            OLD FART 23 November 2016 11: 28
            +2
            Quote: Black
            Yes, what to talk about with them. What's the argument? What problems?

            Japan has a lot of money, you can gut it a little ... "Friendship" does not mean transferring territories to them, we'll talk sake, etc.))))
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 23 November 2016 11: 35
              +19
              STARPER Today, 11:13 ↑ New
              Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!
              Now I’m also interested, but where did Stas157 go ?! He here the day before yesterday the entire monitor filled with furious saliva, about the fact that Putin has already transferred the islands to the Yap ... ...! What language did you hide in the fifth point ?!
              1. The black
                The black 23 November 2016 11: 53
                +3
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                What language did you hide in the fifth point ?!

                So they themselves answered ... "where have you gone?" ... he can't stick out his tongue .. stuck smile
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 24 November 2016 14: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: Black
                  So they themselves answered ... "where have you gone?" ... he can't stick out his tongue .. stuck

                  Did you hold a candle there? Here such framers languages ​​are long and tear off! Then the poor cry ...
              2. saturn.mmm
                saturn.mmm 23 November 2016 12: 50
                +1
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                that Putin has already transferred the islands to the Yaps ..

                Putin recalled a couple of times the 1956 treaty under which the island of Shikotan and the Habomai Archipelago departed from the USSR to Japan, the parliaments of both states ratified this treaty.
              3. Stas157
                Stas157 24 November 2016 13: 52
                +3
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Now I’m also interested, but where did Stas157 go ?! He here the day before yesterday the entire monitor filled with furious saliva, about the fact that Putin has already transferred the islands to the Yap ... ...! What language did you hide in the fifth point ?!

                I'm here Dianochka! Sorry dear, I can’t hang around the monitor around the clock!)) Drop me a telephone? If you miss me, you will!))
                Dian, about language at the fifth point, is this a reservation according to Freud, I hope it was?)) A captivator!))) But, about Putin, that he gave the islands to Yapam, you are sorry, but these are your fantasies! My message was that Putin, if he signs a peace treaty, would have to give our islands to him in this case. No other way. In a nutshell.
            2. The black
              The black 23 November 2016 11: 52
              +2
              Quote: STARPER
              Japan has a lot of money, you can gut it a little ..

              The mattresses are gutted even without us. smile Japan PAYS USA for placing their bases on its territory. Samurai damn smile
              , this does not mean the transfer of territories to them, we will talk and drink sake, etc.))))

              Yes, no question .... about anything but the theme of the transfer of the islands. Here it is not necessary to breed diplomacy, but firmly say NO.
              1. OLD FART
                OLD FART 23 November 2016 12: 03
                +3
                Quote: Black
                The mattresses are gutted even without us. smile Japan PAYS USA for placing their bases on its territory. Samurai damn

                And how do you like this option? Now they will pay us ... (Fukushima alone is worth something ..) Anyway, we'll figure it out there ..))))
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          2. DMoroz
            DMoroz 23 November 2016 11: 42
            +1
            The problem is that Khrushchev signed the 1956 declaration. on the transfer of Iturup and Habomai in exchange for a peace treaty. If there hadn’t been her, nobody would have given a stutter about it.
            By the way, the United States then agreed.

            Well, what is the current agreement with this state, I think it is possible not to voice it, in order to screw up Russia, they will declare that they were "forced"
            1. Krasniy_lis
              Krasniy_lis 23 November 2016 12: 11
              +1
              There is no peace treaty. Dae jure. war is still going on with Japan. So that...
            2. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 23 November 2016 12: 12
              0
              this is the signing of the Khrushchev declaration of 1956. on the transfer of Iturup and Habomai in exchange for a peace treaty.
              So, no peace treaty and the war continues? belay or let them agree with the signatory ... wassat
            3. Kelwin
              Kelwin 23 November 2016 12: 39
              +2
              Quote: DMoroz
              the signing of the Khrushchev declaration of 1956. on the transfer of Iturup and Habomai in exchange for a peace treaty.

              Yes, but in 1960. Japan signed the US-Japan Interaction and Security Treaty with the US, and the USSR refused to consider transferring the islands in response.
              Japan will not get the islands until they get along with mattresses, the formal reason is the lack of a peace treaty with Russia.
              1. DMoroz
                DMoroz 23 November 2016 15: 05
                +1
                I agree, but the mattresses bent them even earlier - when signing the separate San Francisco Peace Treaty of 1951. Our Anglo-American procurement refused to sign.
                The "actual state of war" with the Yapas ended with the signing of a joint declaration of the USSR and Japan of October 19, 1956, in the first article of which it was announced: "The state of war between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan ceases from the date of entry into force of this Declaration, and between them peace and good-neighborly friendly relations ”.
                but the legally peace treaty has not been signed ...
        3. 210ox
          210ox 23 November 2016 11: 39
          +1
          Good argument before the negotiations ..
          Quote: STARPER
          Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!
      2. Zibelew
        Zibelew 23 November 2016 11: 33
        +9
        Where is Kirby barking? John Kirby has not yet stated that the deployment of the Bastion and the Ball threatens Australia’s security, breeding whales in the Pacific Ocean and oppresses the Pacific island states .... To restore another naval base on Matua Island, where there are two heated lanes for aircraft .
    2. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 11: 14
      +3
      Quote: rasputin17
      The response will be the deployment of missile defense elements and an increase in the mattress contingent!

      So what.? We’ll see what they place there, but we won’t give up our territory for any pennies ...!
    3. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 23 November 2016 11: 22
      +2
      It would be necessary to correct the statement, the anti-ship missiles were deployed as part of the fight against "Somali pirates."
    4. newcomer
      newcomer 23 November 2016 11: 24
      +5
      Yes, let them open new bases. The Yankees can be as many as two. these pseudo-samurai have nowhere to live. Japanama will soon become a solid base for the Yankees, and pseudo-samurai and samurai servants for a soldier Joe from Texas.
    5. Finches
      Finches 23 November 2016 11: 24
      +5
      "We attach great importance to this, and after clarification, we will respond accordingly." - Is an indicative harakiri to himself that he will make publicly by the whole cabinet? laughing
    6. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 November 2016 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: rasputin17
      The response will be the deployment of missile defense elements

      they do it anyway
    7. ava09
      ava09 23 November 2016 12: 46
      +2
      The behavior of the staff and their sixes is a banal blackmail. There is nothing to be done about this, the principle of existence is such - a parasite, he is a parasite. But in dealing with a blackmailer there are certain rules - "Never make concessions", the most important of them. Let's give up 4 islands, do you think they will stop? It will be enough for them only when the borders of Russia will pass along the "Golden Ring", or even better, along the Garden ...
    8. Sura
      Sura 23 November 2016 13: 56
      0
      The response will be the deployment of missile defense elements and an increase in the mattress contingent!
      No, they’ll answer with a Japanese obscenity, it’s cooler than a Russian one — it’s called my mother.
  2. Dimontius
    Dimontius 23 November 2016 11: 11
    +1
    This is so that they would moderate their ardor towards our islands. Or offered something else besides what was already promised.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 23 November 2016 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: Dimontius
      Or offered something else besides what was already promised.

      For example, Hokkaido! Anyway, no one lives there. Honshu, if you try, you can populate the monkeys, most importantly, not with American bases.
      1. The black
        The black 23 November 2016 12: 06
        +1
        Who is this. on the picture? The Japanese, who swam to Honshu, and they are not allowed to go ashore? lol
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 23 November 2016 12: 19
          +2
          Quote: Black
          The Japanese, who swam to Honshu, and they are not allowed to go ashore?

          No, the natives of the island of Honshu are squeezed by the Japanese.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 23 November 2016 13: 47
            +1
            These are Japanese macaques, love to sit in hot springs in winter.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 November 2016 11: 19
    +9
    after clarification, we will respond accordingly

    It's your right. What, will you open another additional US base on your territory? So the Japanese are pretty tired of existing ones. As if after such a reaction, he would not be retired. And we have lived without a peace treaty since 1945 and will still live. A strange picture - the vanquished tries to demand something from the winner.
    1. VSZMK
      VSZMK 23 November 2016 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      What, will you open another additional US base on your territory?

      Turtles - the ninja will poison!
      1. Krasniy_lis
        Krasniy_lis 23 November 2016 12: 13
        0
        Godzilla
  4. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 23 November 2016 11: 20
    +1
    That's fine ... Russia has territory and interests ... they need to be protected. No business ... only national interests and exclusively on its territory ...
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 11: 25
      +1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      That's fine ... Russia has territory and interests ... they need to be protected. No business ... only national interests and exclusively on its territory ...

      Well, no, Putin and the Japanese will still play ...)))) It's not just that .... We will untwist them like suckers!
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 23 November 2016 12: 38
        +3
        Quote: STARPER
        ..Run up them like suckers!

        No longer, Mihan Kharitonovich. You just "set fire to the entire office." yes
        1. OLD FART
          OLD FART 23 November 2016 12: 53
          0
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Quote: STARPER
          ..Run up them like suckers!

          No longer, Mihan Kharitonovich. You just "set fire to the entire office." yes

          Kharitonov created the most powerful hydrogen bomb in the history of mankind ...! So let's talk, heart to heart .. hi
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 November 2016 13: 22
            0
            Quote: STARPER
            Kharitonov created the most powerful hydrogen bomb in human history

            Vitaliy, - Khariton - created it. (More precisely, one of the creators)
            Kharitonov, you have a neighbor wink

            Julius Borisovich Khariton (14 (27) February 1904, St. Petersburg - 18 December 1996, Sarov) - Soviet and Russian theoretical physicist and physicochemist. Three times Hero of Socialist Labor (1949, 1951, 1954).

            One of the leaders of the Soviet atomic bomb project. Laureate of the Lenin (1956) and three Stalin Prizes (1949, 1951, 1953).
            Julius Borisovich Khariton was born in Petersburg on February 14 (February 27 in a new style) 1904 of the year in a Jewish family. His father, Boris Osipovich Khariton, was a well-known journalist who was expelled from the USSR in the 1922 year [1], after Latvia joined the 1940 year, he was sentenced to 7 years in prison and died two years later in the camp [2] [3]. Grandfather, Joseph Davidovich Khariton, was a merchant of the first guild in Feodosia; the father’s sister, Etla (Adele) Iosifovna Khariton, was married to the historian Julius Isidorovich Hessen (their son is journalist and screenwriter Daniil Yulievich Hessen) [4] [5]. Cousin (son of his father’s other sister) - journalist and correspondent of Izvestia David Efremovich Yuzhin (real name Rakhmilovich; 1892 — 1939
            1. OLD FART
              OLD FART 23 November 2016 13: 54
              +1
              Here Atalef even confirms everything ....! Well, of course, on my topic ... Well, I was a Jew, so what! Well, you were carried along the "tree" tree ...
              We skillfully controlled the Jews ...!
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 November 2016 11: 25
    +2
    OUR Territory - wherever we want, there we set it. Have more questions? Not! Ipens are free!
  6. koksalek
    koksalek 23 November 2016 11: 30
    +1
    What, Toyota will place even closer to Russia?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 23 November 2016 14: 21
      0
      Quote: koksalek
      What, Toyota will place even closer to Russia?

      They are already in Russia: Land Cruiser Prado is being assembled in Vladivostok, and Toyota Camry in St. Petersburg. http://mymirtoyota.ru/kakie-modeli-tojota-sobiraj
      ut-v-rossii.html
  7. Lelek
    Lelek 23 November 2016 11: 43
    +2
    (“We attach great importance to this, and after clarification we will respond accordingly”)

    Well, that opened Gulchatay's face. And then vё: "we are good, we are neighbors, we love you ...". The Japanese will remain Japanese - a lousy neighbor and partner. So, we are not threatening, but we are strengthening ourselves in any case. yes
  8. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 November 2016 11: 47
    0
    Tokyo promised retaliation

    7 samurai in Hokkaido will post?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 23 November 2016 13: 52
      +1
      Samurai, as such, are no more. For a long time, more than a hundred years. The last samurai, Hiro Onoda, died in 92 in Japan on January 16, 2014.
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 26 November 2016 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: novobranets
        Samurai, as such, are no more. For a long time, more than a hundred years. The last samurai, Hiro Onoda, died in 92 in Japan on January 16, 2014.


        He was really lucky !! Otherwise, seeing his current tribesmen, he would make himself a sepukka or simply die of grief and shame !!!
  9. 210ox
    210ox 23 November 2016 11: 49
    +2
    Good argument before the negotiations ..
    Quote: STARPER
    Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 23 November 2016 12: 01
      0
      A good argument is for the samurai to transfer the power of warheads from mega-kilotons to hiroshima !! laughing 10 Hiroshima, 150 Hiroshima! lol may change their minds, we have many thousands of hiroshim, enough samurai, and patrons will choke! soldier
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 23 November 2016 12: 24
        0
        It is the Americans of the city with a civilian population who bomb them with atomic weapons, and we are traditionally fighting the Kwantung Army.
  10. igorka357
    igorka357 23 November 2016 11: 51
    +2
    Quote: STARPER
    Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!

    Starper, I also love Russia and respect my president, but your comments are already becoming nasty, they are so sweet always ... !!!
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 12: 11
      +2
      Quote: igorka357
      Starper, I also love Russia and respect my president, but your comments are already becoming nasty, they are so sweet always ... !!!

      They themselves sometimes disgust me ... wassat But the situation is so political and the devils on the site have divorced a lot .. Not a day of rest, alas!
      We have such a job with the Russians ... To love and defend our homeland, otherwise there is no way, at least kill! soldier
  11. tundra
    tundra 23 November 2016 12: 00
    +1
    What is news?
    Where we want, there we set, where we want there and drive!
    Of course, I apologize for the intimate details, and after the toilet to wipe. To ask permission too?
    Damn really, everyone around is borzoi!
    Is there a lot of honor?
    Or maybe a bang? So that the whole world is in ruin.
    REACHED.
    BBBBBBBB DB
    Really, you have to give up your hand, as if from a chessboard, otherwise they queens the queens.
  12. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 23 November 2016 12: 02
    +1
    And why didn’t they place anything on Shikotan and Khabomai? What is stopping or who?
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 23 November 2016 13: 23
      +4
      Habomai is just a rocky ridge. All that is valuable near it is biological resources under water. Kunashir is closer to Hokkaido than Shikotan, and the battery placed on Kunashir better covers the straits between the islands. And Kunashir is bigger in size - more space for maneuvering with weapons and equipment. There is an airfield there, again.
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 26 November 2016 15: 16
        0
        Thanks for the clarification. I'll look at the atlas.
  13. Taygerus
    Taygerus 23 November 2016 12: 03
    0
    our land where we want there and place, Shoigu clearly expressed on this occasion
  14. BOB044
    BOB044 23 November 2016 12: 06
    +1
    Tokyo promised to retaliate in connection with the deployment of missile complexes in the Kuriles
    And to us all that you answer there do not care. We defend our territory. And we will place what we consider necessary.
  15. K-50
    K-50 23 November 2016 12: 07
    +1
    The Japanese government will take appropriate measures in connection with the deployment of Russian complexes on the islands of Kunashir and Iturup

    yeah, they’ll make a seppukka and hit their head about Fukushima! laughing
  16. igorka357
    igorka357 23 November 2016 12: 28
    +1
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: igorka357
    Starper, I also love Russia and respect my president, but your comments are already becoming nasty, they are so sweet always ... !!!

    They themselves sometimes disgust me ... wassat But the situation is so political and the devils on the site have divorced a lot .. Not a day of rest, alas!
    We have such a job with the Russians ... To love and defend our homeland, otherwise there is no way, at least kill! soldier

    Yes, I understand, but it’s too sometimes, and I have nothing against you, I just expressed my opinion, because sometimes it hurts my eyes!
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 12: 54
      0
      Quote: igorka357
      Yes, I understand, but it’s too sometimes, and I have nothing against you, I just expressed my opinion, because sometimes it hurts my eyes!

      Accepted and recorded ..)) It happens! hi
  17. ltx777
    ltx777 23 November 2016 12: 33
    +2
    The fact that Khrushchev once promised something there and even signed some paperwork does not mean anything ..... Ribentrop also signed a lot with Molotov, the result is known ... especially since Khrushchev has long been gone , and a country such as the USSR no longer exists, so, comrades, samurai, either you sign a peace treaty, forget about the islands and the maximum that Russia can offer you is investment projects in these territories with tax benefits .... "either go to the forest" and our countries continue to be at war ..... we will somehow survive without a peace treaty .....
    PS: you don’t have to be a prophet to predict that when you transfer these islands to Japan, they will immediately build US bases + missile defense elements and then the whole Far East will be under a cap .... Do we need it ???
  18. Sevurallag
    Sevurallag 23 November 2016 12: 41
    +2
    I would really not want to be disappointed in the GDP, if the complexes have been placed on 2 islands, then Shikotan and Habomai remain in question. Could it be that our remaining "unattainable" ministers did push through their gradual rejection. I believe that the decision on them has already been made, now there is a saber rattling in order to somehow sweeten the bitter pill from their transfer to the Yapam. To the same tune, the signing of a peace treaty will be issued as a resounding diplomatic victory.
    I hope I'm wrong.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 13: 03
      0
      Quote: Sevurallag
      I hope I'm wrong.

      And if you’re not mistaken, you’ll just give it all away ... What will happen?
      1. MMX
        MMX 23 November 2016 17: 03
        0
        Quote: STARPER
        Quote: Sevurallag
        I hope I'm wrong.

        And if you’re not mistaken, you’ll just give it all away ... What will happen?


        But nothing. The country is big. There is enough territory for everyone and, most importantly, a sofa with a computer on hand will be where to place it. Therefore, citizens can sleep peacefully.
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 November 2016 12: 56
    0
    The retaliatory measures will be the massive "sepukku" of the Japanese military. Nothing else is seen as an answer.
    These systems, if that, and cover Hokkaido.
  20. GOGY
    GOGY 23 November 2016 12: 56
    +2
    Quote: STARPER
    Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!

    When he surrenders, it will be too late, the people do not like the constant verbiage of our leadership, then "we do not trade in territories", then "options are possible." So understand how you want ... In general, such things should be submitted to a national referendum, although this is also not a fact, judging by the last elections to the Duma, whom I won’t ask - no one voted for United Russia, but here you go request
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 14: 04
      0
      Quote: GOGY
      Quote: STARPER
      Well, and then here Putin passed some, etc. .... We will talk normally with the Japs!

      When he surrenders, it will be too late, the people do not like the constant verbiage of our leadership, then "we do not trade in territories", then "options are possible." So understand how you want ... In general, such things should be submitted to a national referendum, although this is also not a fact, judging by the last elections to the Duma, whom I won’t ask - no one voted for United Russia, but here you go request

      You do not understand anything in world politics ...! Well, Putin "chatted", about the islands, the reaction immediately is ...))))

      Then he will run away, then he will run again ... So it can go on forever! bully laughing
  21. Sevurallag
    Sevurallag 23 November 2016 13: 02
    0
    Some traitors ... oh i.e. officials are hoping to "warm up the hands" of the notorious Japanese investments and joint projects. Then they will have the principle that you pay us the main thing, or rather unfasten it, and we will not notice and in every possible way veil your Japanese increase in influence.
  22. Sevurallag
    Sevurallag 23 November 2016 13: 08
    0
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Sevurallag
    I hope I'm wrong.

    That will simply give everything ... What will happen?

    The Japs will rejoice, they will probably even invent a holiday with a patriotic name. declare themselves victorious and ... will continue to become impudent.
    personally for me absolutely nothing will change, I want to look at our media who will need to present all this as a resounding victory, and not a compromise.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 November 2016 13: 58
      0
      Quote: Sevurallag
      The Japs will rejoice, they will probably even invent a holiday with a patriotic name. declare themselves victorious and ... will continue to become impudent.

      Let them even try to take them ... There maybe, as in the Donbass, the scenario will turn out ..! soldier
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 23 November 2016 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: STARPER
        Quote: Sevurallag
        The Japs will rejoice, they will probably even invent a holiday with a patriotic name. declare themselves victorious and ... will continue to become impudent.

        Let them even try to take them ... There maybe, as in the Donbass, the scenario will turn out ..! soldier

        What's the point? So that, as in the Donbass, you must first give, like Yeltsin, the Ukrainian SSR gave. I hope that it’s not enough to give intelligence and patriotism to that.
  23. alfa19638
    alfa19638 23 November 2016 13: 36
    +2
    There is no need to reassure anyone. The answer should be clear and unambiguous - hey you and not the Kuriles
  24. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 23 November 2016 13: 49
    0
    Therefore, we place it, because instead of two islands, the "lip" has been rolled out into four !!!
  25. asbond
    asbond 23 November 2016 14: 02
    0
    And we are seriously discussing the transfer of two islands to these guys, who have not received anything and are already throwing such statements ?! And what will happen if you give them something ?! You can't "talk to them" about ostovs with them, no maaar!
  26. uskrabut
    uskrabut 23 November 2016 14: 34
    0
    “We attach great importance to this, and after clarification we will respond accordingly,” the Japanese minister said.
    Well! Thought to be limited to coastal defense, and now it is necessary also to install the S-300 with the S-400! Who pulled your tongue?
  27. Bourgeois
    Bourgeois 23 November 2016 15: 26
    +1
    The Japanese government will take appropriate measures in connection with the deployment of Russian complexes on the islands of Kunashir and Iturup

    What measures will it take? Will everyone make a sepukka? Or will they gobble up to death rolls and sushi? ... in a good way then
  28. Averias
    Averias 23 November 2016 16: 33
    0
    Oh, I feel that they’ll answer with this:
  29. Every
    Every 23 November 2016 17: 25
    +1
    An interesting move.
    On the one hand, Putin hinted that the 1956 declaration was still relevant, but at the same time gave the command to strengthen the coastal defense and air defense of the islands.
    If you refer to the mentioned declaration, the transfer of 2 islands of Japan is possible only after the liquidation of the US base.
    However, after the deployment of "bastions", "balls" and S-400, the NATO force grouping is likely to increase, as well as the missile defense system, which will make the transfer of the islands completely impossible.
    It turns out that Russia is ready to discuss the issue of transferring the islands, but you (the Japanese) will first liquidate the base, which they will not do.
    It turns out to be a dead end and Russia is not to blame for it. You can safely say that the Japanese do not comply with the conditions.
  30. 1536
    1536 23 November 2016 19: 19
    0
    First you need to ensure the safety of the Kuril Islands. We are not against the Japanese deploying rockets there. Against North Korea, of course. Let the Japanese not worry.
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 November 2016 19: 28
    0
    We show the Japanese that despite constant negotiations,
    we will not give our land to them. I think that after that,
    Permanent dialogue invitations will stop.
  32. Demeter
    Demeter 23 November 2016 22: 08
    0
    The Kuril Islands belong to Russia and Russia is obliged to protect them, up to the use of nuclear weapons against any aggressor. I will consider the transfer of the Kuril Islands of Japan to be treason!