Bulgaria delivered Iraq another batch of BMP-1

Ten BMP-1s arrived in Iraq from Bulgaria. In December 2015, Bulgaria delivered the Iraqi Ministry of Defense 12 BMP-1 and several tanks T-72, reports bmpd with reference to the Iraqi media.

The author recalls that “Bulgaria, in agreement with Russia, in 1996, bought 100 T-72A and 100 tanks of BMP-1P units of the former Soviet army, which were in storage in the Republic of Bulgaria from the 1980s, in XNUMX”.

It is noted that Iraq in recent years, actively buying military equipment of Soviet times in Eastern Europe. In 2005, the Iraqi military received a gift from Greece 100 BMP-1 (previously in service with the army of the GDR). In 2007, the same amount of BMP-1 was purchased in Ukraine.

And in 2014, Iraq signed a contract with the Czech company Excalibur Army for the purchase of X-NUMX-T-50-72 from the presence of the Czech Armed Forces and 1-BMP-250 from the presence of the Swedish army (previously in the GDR army). It is known that the first 1 machines (BMP) arrived in Iraq last year.

On what conditions did Bulgaria supply 10-ti armored vehicles, is not specified.

Comments

[The black]

Brothers have come, second-hand haggling ... and put their own stall next to the Ukrainian))))

[St Petrov]

Bulgarians annoy me

bros yeah

[just exp]

Did you just notice that?
For example, I also saw the fact that the BMP-1 (one) was in service with Sweden and Greece, which received this equipment from the GDR.
that is, even the old BMP-1s were evaluated by NATO and Scandinavian countries.

[The stranger]

The Greeks did not appreciate - they would have the problem of using against us. Against the Turks and were not going to.
I don’t remember, after 73, it seems, we had an agreement with them on the evacuation of the population in our territory in the event of a war with Turkey. It makes no difference that NATO, and we are VD. A war was supposed between them, and the population, not reaching Athena a little, still considers Bulgarian to be its language, along with Greek.
In short, in the event of a VD war against NATO, the Greeks really would not have fought. There would be a mess between us and them, but this is no longer militarily, and that means a separate conversation.
Here are the Swedes stocked up, yes. They smelled it - felt it, pulled out even more long muzzles, and did not say anything about mtlb. They don’t have that. A caterpillar truck by civil standards - 50 before the first overhaul, and at 000 km / h on the highway when scared. So they pushed counter-advertising.
I would have given ...

[pytar]

The dispute between Greece and Bulgaria for joint humanitarian and military actions, the case of a war between Turkey and Turkey was concluded after 1974. The reason was the Kirpsky conflict. At the same time, beloved and praised by all Russians Yugoslavia, the command of the internal affairs department was examined as a country a potential enemy in the event of a local or world conflict. One third of the Soviet troops in Hungary, had to act in the Yugoslav direction in the event of Yugoslavia withdrawing from its non-neutral status. Their task included the capture of Belgrade and the blocking of the Yugoslav Armed Forces at the deployment bases with the subsequent withdrawal of Soviet troops on the Adriatic Sea. Bulgaria, as a member of the police department, kept the 3 army constantly on alert. 1-army in the Yugoslav direction, 2-th in Greek and 3-th most efficient in the Turkish direction.

[pytar]

approx. : "... in the event of a war between Greece and Turkey ..."

[The stranger]

How am I annoying you?

[Bomb]

Yes, everything is fine .... made in the USSR and therefore for many years!

[hirurg]

second-hand haggling ...
The coolest thing is that they take off and sell themselves. But the ass itself is naked. And they naively think that under a NATO blanket they will warm up with the same nudibranchs.)))) Presented a picture ....

[Giant thought]

Well, the Iraqi military likes Soviet weapons, as they say, you can’t order it to your heart, even very new Soviet technology shows its best in extreme Iraqi conditions.

[210ox]

Better and more reliable than fucking Hummers ..

Quote: Giant thought

Well, the Iraqi military likes Soviet weapons, as they say, you can’t order it to your heart, even very new Soviet technology shows its best in extreme Iraqi conditions.

[kapitan92]

Quote: 210ox

Better and more reliable than fucking Hummers ..

Quote: Giant thought

Well, the Iraqi military likes Soviet weapons, as they say, you can’t order it to your heart, even very new Soviet technology shows its best in extreme Iraqi conditions.

"Hummers" serve in 30 armies of the world, licenses for their production were bought by firms in Portugal and Switzerland. Maybe he's not that fucking?
The main weapon of destruction of the Hammer in Iraq, and the BMP-1 in Afghanistan, was a simple Soviet RPG-7. Why choose the old Soviet - because it is much cheaper!
BMP-1 was a breakthrough in the 70s, but now alas.

[alexmach]

BMP-1 was a breakthrough in the 70s, but now alas.

No, well, talking about the breakthrough is certainly ridiculous, but in general the fact that someone still buys them is remarkable.
In addition, I understand why Iraq is buying the cheapest, but that's what these machines did until 2014 in the Swedish army that does not fit my head.

[kapitan92]

Quote: alexmach

No, well, talking about a breakthrough is certainly ridiculous,

And you argue your "funny"! BMP-1 was produced since 1966. Remind us about similar vehicles in adjacent armies.
High maneuverability, completely closed, can not only lead infantry on the battlefield, but also go on the attack with them. Armor BMP was supposed to protect the crew from small arms, from fragments of artillery shells and from the damaging factors of weapons of mass destruction.
We are waiting for your arguments, but anyone can chat.

[alexmach]

We are waiting for your arguments, but anyone can chat.

Just now I saw your comment, well then. I argue

MP-1 was produced since 1966.

What year is it in the yard now? What was a breakthrough in 66, 50 years later, can do something for poverty. But there can be no breakthrough. That is all my argument. It is pointless to recall endless merits. Today, the BMP-1 is not a breakthrough either for Russia, or for Bulgaria, or even for Iraq crushed to dust.

Remind us of similar vehicles in adjacent armies.

Adjacent to whom? Modern Iraq? Including Izril and American and all possible sheikhs? Do you still live for 66 years?

[kapitan92]

Quote: alexmach

We are waiting for your arguments, but anyone can chat.

Just now I saw your comment, well then. I argue

MP-1 was produced since 1966.

What year is it in the yard now? What was a breakthrough in 66, 50 years later, can do something for poverty. But there can be no breakthrough. That is all my argument. It is pointless to recall endless merits. Today, the BMP-1 is not a breakthrough either for Russia, or for Bulgaria, or even for Iraq crushed to dust.

Remind us of similar vehicles in adjacent armies.

Adjacent to whom? Modern Iraq? Including Izril and American and all possible sheikhs? Do you still live for 66 years?

Your verbal diarrhea is not interesting to me. End of communication.

[alexmach]

Your verbal diarrhea is not interesting to me. End of communication.

What an odd argument.

[In100gram]

Quote: 210ox

Better and more reliable than fucking Hummers.

I agree. Goose against the wheel wins. Capacity too. If you don’t put any gun on Hama, BMP is better

[alexmach]

I agree. Goose against the wheel wins

Is it in the desert then?

[kapitan92]

Quote: alexmach

I agree. Goose against the wheel wins

Is it in the desert then?

BMP-3 are in service with a number of countries, including Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Now Russia is fulfilling an order to improve 135 infantry fighting vehicles for the UAE.
More details: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/62858
And you ask the Saudis how they "drive" through the desert.

[kapitan92]

Quote: hirurg

The coolest thing is that they take off and sell themselves

This is just nonsense! Nobody takes off anything from himself. The entire Bulgarian Army for 2016 is 25-30 thousand people. The army is contractual, there is no call for a long time. Why do they need so many Soviet junk such as BPM-1. In fact, Bulgaria as a NATO member has switched to their standards. Why not cut some money from Iraq? Why Iraq buys all THIS: probably the price is "penny" and there is no need to retrain specialists, because they know the Soviet BMP 1 and T-72 very well.

Quote: hirurg

But the ass itself is naked.

Don't be naked, don't worry. They live hard, the industry was also destroyed and bought up by the West in the 90s, like ours. They did not find a Bulgarian "Putin" -not lucky. Prime Minister Boyko Borisov is a typical protege of the West, and all the shit is with the South Stream, with the nuclear art. in Belene began under him. Last Sunday there were presidential elections - the winner was a socialist, former Air Force general Radev, and what will happen next, God only knows. Most Bulgarians have a great attitude towards Russians and their memory is not "overgrown with nettles".
So imagine the picture!

[The stranger]

Thank you comrade Captain 92!
In general, it is. And there are nuances.
I did not suspect that we have them. The years were troubled - to see far-fetched debts so leveled. Then they broke a lot of firewood.
But the cars themselves are worthless. The vertical angle of the gun’s aiming is insufficient, and that’s all over. The Balkan theater is mountainous, the gorges are narrow, already Afghan. The firing angles are needed closer to anti-aircraft, battle on the plain - exotics. In general, I have little idea of ​​the specific actions of drugs on such a terrain. I read books, went through teachings, but somehow for show. So BMP-1 - the truth is we do not need.
We had few of them, in the late 70s, in the 9th tank brigade. Mekhvody buzzed from the steering wheel - they didn’t crutches a motolyga :) We were sad from preparing for the ford, our mtlb plopped down in the ponds on the move. Platoon commanders were furious from the corners of the shelling.
So they quickly concocted their BMP-23 "Shipka" and the self-propelled mortar "Tundzha". Factory, and at the same time military tests took place in 81 - 82, no longer in the palace capital of the 9th, but in the 5th, such as the factory TBR, in Kazanlak. What's under Shipki.
Then a lot of things were developed, but the troops were saturated with them.
Now everyone does it.

[pytar]

Indeed, in Bulgarian conditions / high-altitude / BMP-1 from its small angles of inclination of the gun aiming turned out to be problematic. Attempts were made to modernize these machines but then refused. Back in the 80s, the development and production of the Bulgarian BMP-23 began, which responds much better to the Bulgarian natural conditions, as mentioned by the "Alien".

[Themi30]

This is a cycle of scrap metal in nature, the Soviet will sell it, they will buy new-old American / German ones, but how else can we buy up the scrap metal for the owners?

[RASKAT]

Brothers have come, second-hand haggling

Iran wouldn’t buy such rubbish for itself, oh something tells me that soon these BMPs will be in Syria, they will arm the guardians of the Islamic revolution. (These are Iranian units). The most interesting thing is that we have this stuff full. Where is RosOboronExport looking?

[Usher]

Which Iran? Here we are talking about Iraq.

[GEV67]

This is how much crap and leberasts squandered the good of the conscience ?! But now dear people, here he is the capital of many "businessmen" from Russia ...

[Sagittarius]

Of course, due to Soviet arms supplies, many in the countries of the former socialist camp made fortunes.

[avt]

Quote: Sagittarius

Of course, due to Soviet arms supplies

You’ll laugh, but they were given a large batch of equipment during the EBN, Kokoshin went there to watch the unloading.

[Vadim12]

USSR hayut, and use the heritage for the loot with pleasure.

[ZuuT]

But can you still shoot from them?

[The stranger]

Why not? There would be a crew.
In the end, he came across videos from Syria and Iraq. Well, show the war point blank.
Of course, I am not a genius of tactics, but remembering the military charter of even the squadron, I clearly do not understand the actions of those people.
Allahakbar is by any means the mainland.
With advisers, battalion commanders may say that their mothers are being transferred, and their comotes are already Lochiallahs.

[320423]

Frankly speaking, it’s purple to me what and where Iraq bought, but in this case it would not hurt ours to offer some kind of modernization based on a 30 mm cannon and taking into account local "warriors" with extended ammunition, if only the barrel resource would withstand. For me, an order for 100 combat models is a large order. So, I would like to see real movements of Rosoboronexport on this topic !!!

[The stranger]

An old car, a passenger car, resurrected from the dead?
It’s much cheaper, not to mention the hassle, to build a new one.
There is nothing to take from these boxes. Is that the case, and even it will take a lot of time and effort to troubleshooting. Not to mention disassembling rusty bolts.

[Usher]

Who will do this, now orders in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

[Chills]

Alik in the garage podshamanit.

[Sasha75]

Yes, and we need to sell junk oh and we have a lot of things on storage bases. Although we have Syria and Afghanistan in general, only the old stuff asks them for a new one; no specialists are needed for repair and maintenance. Here's another T-34-85 still fighting at full, only apparently afraid of pulling a rope))).

[D2402K]

There will be enough Soviet goodness for everyone.

[The stranger]

Thinking?
Throw me a pair of cases for sapper axes, I'll pay.
Which are wearable, such as trench. For business it is necessary, not for show off.

[Chills]

Look at Avito. Anyone pushes anyone.

[The stranger]

But who will fool a penny abroad sent.

[zloybond]

Well, yes ... and then by chance the storage will capture the igil .... and will dissect into these BMPs

[protoss]

cheap and cheerful, it’s still a consumable, if you don’t take them away, it’s beaten by martyrs.

[Evil 55]

An infantry fighting vehicle lives in an attack, which is why it’s also a combat vehicle. Why stupidly dispose of them on needles, it’s better to drive the barbarians through the desert ..

[The stranger]

What attack? On the monkeys? So they, too, zip and headlights will be pulled away.
Bus by bus, okay. Thank you if the bags carry.

[Wolka]

and there will never be a second such freebie, apparently, the "brothers" hope that in the case of a eurozavarushka they will beat them off with sticks ...

[The stranger]

Volushka, Colonel, the next time you need the Balkans, or there the Bosphorus to the heap with the Dardanelles, do not blame me - introduce yourself with the same name. I - petty little brother.
So that I also put you in quotation marks.

[garnik]

Quote: c-Petrov

Bulgarians annoy me

bros yeah

Do not confuse power with the people. The older generation is still for Russia. And power has been assigned. Historians operate on the events of the 1 Balkan war, according to which the Russian Empire sided with the Serbs and Greeks, against the Bulgarians. And the Germans supported them in the promise to return the disputed territories. And the story started not because of the mainstream. And so there is a monument to Alexander 2 and the great commander Skobelev. The Bulgarians remember the good and the bad.
It is not necessary to blame the peoples, especially since they themselves are no less guilty.

[The stranger]

Boil strongly, then cool quickly. They forget the bad quickly, remember the good for a long time.
Slavs, blasphemy :))

[pytar]

Intentionally confused. They pretend they don’t understand. The strategy of the information war is this. Set up nations at the household level, one against the other.

[nivander]

By the way, quite a shaggy technique is poorer than the Humvee and the like

[Damir]

Well .. but they said that ukrovermaht Europe will not arm ... but no question .. as soon as it appears solvent demand so immediately everything will be found ... even from the stocks of the Warsaw Pact ...