Syrian Kurds on plans for Raqqa

After the liberation of Raqqi from the militants of the IG (grouping is prohibited in the Russian Federation), the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) may include the city in a federal region, if this idea is supported by local residents, reports RIA News Statement by the representative of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party Abdah Salam Ali.

“This issue will be decided by the population of the city. If people vote for the presence of the SDF in Raqqa, they will remain. The main part of the combat units in any case will be withdrawn, that is, it is about the presence of units to maintain order. As for the governing body, they can become a military council, similar to the one that was created, for example, in Manbidge, when the SDF ousted ISIS militants from there. We have a similar approach to the inclusion of Raqqa into the federal region. If the residents of the city support such an idea, it will happen ”, Said Ali.

The agency recalls that in March, in the city of Rumaila (Haseke Province), the “democratic system of the Rojava and northern Syria” was proclaimed. About 200 delegates from all over the north of Syria who represented Kurdistan, a number of national communities, the cities of Aleppo, Al-Shanbe, and others took part in the decision.

In Damascus, the creation of a federal region called illegal.

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[Giant thought]

The mattresses want to divide Syria with the wrong hands, in this case Kurdish, and then legitimize this action.

[vkl.47]

Damascus, I feel soon no one will ask at all. Courts just take everything for themselves. The type we fought means ours

[Nyrobsky]

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Damascus, I feel soon no one will ask at all. Courts just take everything for themselves. The type we fought means ours

Kurds talk about the Federation. They are not talking about an independent Kurdistan. The issue of Kurdish autonomy within Syria is being considered in the future version of the Syrian Constitution and will most likely be adopted by Damascus and the Kurds. Kurds, with any support from outside, even having created an "independent" Kurdistan, will not be able to obtain economic independence. will be isolated within the borders of Syria, Iraq and Turkey, so this topic can be resolved with the consent of all concerned. There will be no agreement, so the war will go on there, despite the fact that the ISIS will be driven out of these territories. There are almost 50 million Kurds and the mob potential allows them to wage war for at least 20 or 50 years. But the geopolitical "whales" cannot wait that long because projects to "develop" the region's hydrocarbons will be frozen. Considering that the victory of one of the "whales" will never happen, they will have to agree on peace, albeit on the terms of the federation of Syria

[svp67]

After the liberation of Raqqa from IS fighters (the group is prohibited in the Russian Federation), the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) can include the city in the federal region if this idea is supported by local residents, RIA Novosti reports a statement by the representative of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party Abdah Salam Ali.

yeah, who would have doubted. Yes, and in the decision of the local residents, I somehow have no doubt, they will agree, moreover, they will be "amicably ready". It is clear that Syria does not agree with this yet, but one should not forget about Turkey, it is even more "not approved" than Syria. In short, if this happens, then there will be another "stress point"

[VSZMK]

Quote: svp67

one should not forget about Turkey, it is "not approved" even more than Syria.

Do not forget about Iran. To them, too, Kurdistan is like a bone in the throat, and now they are helping Syria, I think they will help against the Kurds.

[Ustrushan]

It touches me - this is a statement. With all due respect to the Kurds, you need to get to Raqqa, recapture it, keep it, and even the local population at the heart of the Arabs. Suppose they were able to take Rakka, after the defeat of the local barmaley, Damascus wants to return this city and the Kurds will not have a sweet time if they quarrel with Damascus. From the north, Turks, from the south of the Arabs ... Although you can then give Raqq to the same Damascus and bargain for yourself preferences? Maybe.

[svp67]

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With all due respect to the Kurds, you need to get to Raqqa, recapture it, keep it, and even the local population at the heart of the Arabs.

The local population together will leave for Europe, the first time or something. And the Kurds can reach and conquer, especially with the support of the United States.

Quote: Ustrushan

and the Kurds will not have a sweet time if they quarrel with Damascus.

Under the "US umbrella," they can take the risk of realizing their centuries-old dream of their state. The United States already has THREE bases in Syria on the territory controlled by the Kurds. THREE. With excellent runways.

[Ustrushan]

For a stable Kurdish state, you need access to the sea and friendly relations with at least one neighboring state. And this will not happen if the Kurds do not agree to good relations with the Syrian government. The states will not help the Kurds for a long time - there simply will be no opportunities: poor logistics, a bone in the throat with the Turks, relations with Iran and Syria.
For me, the more US bases in Kurdistan, the better - high costs, but there are no long-term advantages.

[protoss]

for a stable Kurdish state it is necessary that the Kurds at least agree among themselves, but this is unrealistic. the eternal confrontation of barzani and talabani is an example of this.

[Korsar4]

Do not stop sharing. And the skin is still on the bear.

[svp67]

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Do not stop sharing. And the skin is still on the bear.

But pretty much already moth-beaten.

[jovanni]

Although the barmalei don’t pull the bears, the jackals are more likely, but it’s too early to divide the jackal skins ...

[newcomer]

something seems to me, the Kurds will run into a serious conversation with the Turkish army and the Syrian. or maybe this is the plan of our sovereign: on the one hand allowed the Turks to the “territory” of the Kurds in the north of Syria, on the other hand, we allow the Kurds to be imposed. as a result, in any case, they will collide. Losses on both sides benefit us and the Syrians.

[LÄRZ]

Everything there is intertwined with them, each "plays" his own card, plays his own game. The devil will break his leg!

And what has the United States achieved with both these forces and the Iraqi forces? The fact that all the forces involved in the conflict in the Middle East are using them to their advantage, and often "in the dark." Kurds use them to round off their possessions. Official Iraq with their weapons and with the help of their soldiers and instructors extinguishes one by one the sources of the Sunni resistance gathered around IS against Shiite rule in Baghdad. The Shiites themselves, under the command of Iranian officers, are building their own "tape" from Iran to Palestine. Finally, even Moscow is slowly and methodically insisting on separating American "moderate" terrorists from immoderate ones, thereby blocking Washington's political support for the "moderate" as much as possible and ensuring the Syrian army's actions to steadily reduce the "opposition" enclaves not controlled by Damascus.
Now the Americans, it seems, having realized how many mousetraps were at the same time, - without taking Mosul, they rushed to storm Raqqi in Syria. More precisely, the Kurds threw it at her. Rakka is a Sunni city, the Kurds at one time already refused it, not wanting to get another headache, but they went and took Manbij to unite their lands in a single area. But here their success was simultaneously blocked by Damascus, Ankara and Moscow, who are equally not interested in strengthening the Kurds until the formation of their own state on Syrian territory. Even if the Americans push the IS away from Raqqa, they will not achieve any strategic result, except that the terrorists will seize Mosul even more, where their main nutritional base is.
But it's not hard to guess who will end up with Raqqa. The forces of the "green" opposition in this region are not enough to keep control over it. This means that the Kurds will either themselves agree with Damascus on an amicable concession to Rakia, or Damascus will sooner or later oust them from there, taking advantage of their inevitable conflict with the local population.

So try to sort out all this Middle East "mess". Source: http://tehnowar.ru/51836-nastuplenie-ssha-na-mosu
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[protoss]

I think the Kurds are in a hurry, all the main Kurdish settlements in Syria near the Turkish border and can easily be decoupled by Turkish artillery. In my opinion, the Turks are waiting for Russia to begin to level off the land - Aleppo, USA - Mosul. this will completely untie Erdogan’s hands and with a clear conscience he will demolish Afrin, Kobani, reeds, munwich. and as if the Kurds did not have to blame for a permanent residence cancer.

[Rostislav]

Kurds can be understood, they want their own state. On this mattress and play in the desire to destroy Syria. Federalization or the provision of autonomy for a small and multi-confessional state is certain death. And along with Syria, Kurdish autonomy will also perish. Do Kurds really don’t understand how they are used? Libya is very close by, just see what is happening there.

[rotmistr60]

The war is not over yet, but the country is already divided.

[Air Force Colonel]

No matter what the Kurds sing about their autonomy, Moscow will decide everything.