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Media: fighters from "Admiral Kuznetsov" began to patrol the sky over Syria

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Deck fighters Su-33, based on the cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov", seen in the sky over Tartus, reports Defence.ru with reference to Syrian sources.




"Apparently, the Russian carrier strike group on the approach to the Syrian territorial waters," - said the publication.

The resource also reports that in addition to the Su-33 heavy aircraft carrying cruiser, there are MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB fighters, Ka-27, Ka-31 and Ka-52 helicopters.

Recall that the carrier group of ships withdrew from Severomorsk on October 15. Circling Europe, the ships entered the Mediterranean Sea. All along the way, Russian ships were under the scrutiny of the leadership of NATO and the Western press, who frightened the inhabitants with the “aggressive” intentions of Russia.
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 8 November 2016 13: 04
    +13
    Well, we show everyone, and we are already here, we ask the faint of heart to leave.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 8 November 2016 13: 07
      +5
      Well done! Now you need to find out the solarium on the way back, and then we'll see!
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 8 November 2016 13: 20
        +9
        A few months to the way back, the main thing to do, to experience everything that is planned
      2. roadsmell
        roadsmell 8 November 2016 15: 37
        +3
        Airplanes over Tartus, and Kuzya is somewhere near the tugboat.


        1. ancient
          ancient 8 November 2016 16: 23
          +2
          :
          Quote: roadsmell
          Airplanes over Tartus, and Kuzya is somewhere near the tugboat.


          That's right ... the coordinates are accurate - http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/.

          Aphids for those who do not know how .. "to use" .. enter the link in the upper right corner in the search box, write Nikolay Chiker, click search and .. get the current location drinks

          Well, if only "Kuznetsov" flew an airplane in this place ... in fact, in the territorial waters of Turkey (and in the roadstead of the port of Karatash wassat ), then at least the entire Turkish fleet would have already been in this area, not counting any statements and ... "demands" lol
      3. Persistent
        Persistent 8 November 2016 18: 33
        +12
        “It is even interesting why Ukrainian journalists took the refueling aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov on the high seas for towing.”
        - Well, that's just clear. There are no buckets or cans in the pictures ... laughing
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 November 2016 19: 29
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Well done! Now you need to find out the solarium on the way back, and then we'll see!

        Yes, like two fingers on the asphalt! Take away from the igil! Business then laughing
      5. AndreyM
        AndreyM 9 November 2016 09: 17
        +1
        And what is there to explore? The Syrian Express brings 2000 tons of supplies to Tartus every day. And native Novorossiysk is not far away - tankers will turn around in 10 days
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 8 November 2016 13: 32
      +10
      We showed this in October 2015, about the Su-33 in the Tartus region, this is incorrect information, they mixed up the photo with a pair of Su-30SM, at the moment the group is located east of Cyprus
      +
      Russia closes the stretch of the eastern Mediterranean Sea before rocket fire.
      It is indicated that the Russian aircraft carrier group, headed by Admiral Kuznetsov, will launch missiles and train flights of carrier-based aviation in two date ranges: November 10-15 and November 17-22.
      1. ancient
        ancient 8 November 2016 14: 51
        +6
        Quote: Rustam
        Cyprus

        Rustam, respected not Cyprus, but Crete wink And no longer there, but the second day moves towards KUipra and has passed during this time ... very few miles bully crying

        Well, "air hastens from Syriiskiz SI" ... well, just like ours .... at wyrtah under 5 meters .. they will determine the type of fighter .. "in light" wassat wassat
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 8 November 2016 15: 43
          +2
          Sure, not a problem :)

          Best regards
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 8 November 2016 16: 04
          +1
          Quote: ancient
          And no longer there, but the second day moves towards KUipra and has passed during this time ... very few miles

          From Severodvinsk to Cyprus, the water is approximately 9500 km in three weeks, which means that the average speed is about 12 knots per hour.
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 November 2016 16: 34
            +1
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            From Severodvinsk to Cyprus, the water is approximately 9500 km in three weeks, which means that the average speed is about 12 knots per hour.


            It turns out to be calculated as .. "average salary" or "average temperature in the hospital" wink
            After all, "rushed" from to "the point of the first planned refueling" in just 11 days wink
            Plus, fly at a speed of 12 knots ... it is certainly possible (from the 3rd position and on .. "a bucket of kerosene") drinks
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 8 November 2016 19: 18
              +1
              Quote: ancient
              It turns out to be calculated as .. "average salary" or "average temperature in the hospital"

              So out of the box.
              Quote: ancient
              Plus, fly at a speed of 12 knots ... it is certainly possible (from the 3rd position and on .. "a bucket of kerosene")

              In the latest videos, they take off from the third position.
      2. roadsmell
        roadsmell 8 November 2016 17: 22
        0
        Kuzya (at the location of the tug attached to him) closes the firing area from the north.




        And Grigorovich (according to the history of the movement of the tugboat attached to him) bypasses Cyprus from the south.



        And accordingly, the area of ​​firing is also limited from the south.
        1. roadsmell
          roadsmell 8 November 2016 17: 38
          +1
          And further..
          Flytradar announces the closure of the space from November 10 to 22.


    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 November 2016 19: 37
      +2
      It is good that our decks study there. God willing and the possibility of the state, they will have a real big nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. Our ship pilots still stand up for the interests of their state in the relevant marine areas yes 7 feet under the keel and so that the number of take-offs from the deck is always equal to landings on it good
      And so that everyone returns home alive after completing the assignment.
  2. Machete
    Machete 8 November 2016 13: 06
    +2
    Well, the work has begun.
    No wonder they sailed.
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 8 November 2016 13: 10
      +18
      No wonder they sailed.

      Do not tell such a sailor.
      1. Machete
        Machete 8 November 2016 13: 28
        +1
        I will not say. especially to pilots who, nevertheless, are not sailors.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 8 November 2016 13: 35
          +3
          Quote: Machete
          I will not say. especially to pilots who, nevertheless, are not sailors.

          wassat fool they’re like deck aviation and look at the flags on airplanes, doesn’t say anything ??? .... and now the question is - are they sailors ??????? !!!!
          1. tinibar
            tinibar 8 November 2016 14: 36
            +6
            Quote: gispanec
            Quote: Machete
            I will not say. especially to pilots who, nevertheless, are not sailors.

            wassat fool they’re like deck aviation and look at the flags on airplanes, doesn’t say anything ??? .... and now the question is - are they sailors ??????? !!!!

            And my friend urgently served on the border ship as an artilleryman ... So he had 3 professional holidays a year! laughing And those about whom it is, first of all, of course, are pilots ... hi
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 8 November 2016 16: 27
              +2
              Quote: tinibar
              And my friend urgently served on the border ship as an artilleryman ... So he had 3 professional holidays a year!

              I confirm. smile
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 8 November 2016 13: 56
        +3
        Quote: Mahmut
        Do not tell such a sailor.

        Sea captain with a higher diploma; sea ​​captain; long distance navigation navigator; captain of a swimming; small navigator - not to say the word "swim" to them too? wink
        1. undusk
          undusk 8 November 2016 14: 33
          +5
          You yourself have answered yourself - all specialties - civilians, who sail on the SHIP, and the military go ... on SHIPS ... drinks
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 8 November 2016 16: 29
            +5
            Quote: undusk
            You yourself have answered yourself - all specialties - civilians, who sail on the SHIP, and the military go ... on SHIPS ...

            Avotfig. smile
            Higher Naval School of the Underwater swimming them. Lenin Komsomol.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 November 2016 19: 38
      +2
      Quote: Machete
      Well, the work has begun.
      No wonder they sailed.

      Guano swims. Ships go.
  3. mareco
    mareco 8 November 2016 13: 08
    +3
    Well, as I understand it, these planes are more suitable for air combat than for work on ground targets?
    1. Alexez
      Alexez 8 November 2016 13: 15
      +3
      So it is written: "Patrolling the sky"
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 8 November 2016 13: 18
      +2
      SU-33 part of the sides received SVP-24
    3. vitaz
      vitaz 8 November 2016 13: 19
      +4
      B-52 than a bad target
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 November 2016 14: 28
      +3
      Quote: Mareco
      Well, as I understand it, these planes are more suitable for air combat than for work on ground targets?

      these planes are absolutely universal, both on land and on sea targets and air.
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 November 2016 19: 41
      0
      Quote: Mareco
      Well, as I understand it, these planes are more suitable for air combat than for work on ground targets?

      With what fright? Su-33 is a heavy MFI-carrier. Flashes, yes, mainly for air combat, although they have now provided some opportunities for work on the "ground".
      1. tomket
        tomket 8 November 2016 21: 36
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        What a fright? Su-33 heavy MFI deck

        They made laugh however))) This is when the Su-33 managed to become multi-functional?))))) Despite the fact that the really first MFI at Su was created with the money of the Indians by the end of the 90's. MiGs, on the contrary, by 90m already knew how to work on the ground in the modification of M and K.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 8 November 2016 22: 59
          0
          Quote: tomket
          This is when the Su-33 managed to become multi-functional?)))))

          After the last upgrade.
          Quote: tomket
          MiGs, on the contrary, already knew how to work on the ground by the 90s

          In those ancient times, when there were light and heavy front-line fighters (we are talking about Mig29 and Su27), the nomenclature of drying weapons already exceeded the Minks due to the size and greater combat load. Thanks to what the situation is like in the Air Force that at the moment Sukhoi’s aircraft in front-line aviation make up 80% of the fleet! Which is well deserved and completely justified yes What mythical superiority of the moment over Su are you talking about? request
          1. tomket
            tomket 9 November 2016 02: 41
            0
            Quote: GSH-18
            After the last upgrade.

            Are you talking about "Hephaestus"? "Hephaestus" is intended for work with cast iron.
            Quote: GSH-18
            In those ancient times, when there were light and heavy front-line fighters (we are talking about the 29 and Su27), the range of drying weapons already exceeded the flashing lights due to their size and greater combat load.

            If the plane can lift "many, many", it does not automatically become multifunctional from this).
            Quote: GSH-18
            Thanks to what the situation is like in the Air Force that at the moment Sukhoi’s aircraft in front-line aviation make up 80% of the fleet!

            In Soviet times, the basis of the aircraft fleet (fighters) was the MiG-29). Still, I think Ustinov is a smarter Ministry of Defense than Pasha "Mercedes".
            Quote: GSH-18
            Which is well deserved and completely justified

            At first, a lot of things were considered deserved and justified, and then ....
            Quote: GSH-18
            What mythical superiority of the moment over Su are you talking about?

            Why is it mythical? There are exact test dates for the MiG-29M and MiG-29K. There is an absolutely exact date of the beginning of work in Sukhoi on the modification of the Su-27 capable of working fully on the ground. There is a completely accurate nomenclature of weapons (for work on the ground) of the MiG-29M and when it was tested. If you don’t like something, then this is your problem. If the fact that MiG modified 29 to MFI earlier than Sukhoi does not fit into your world paradigm, then I will once again note that these are your problems).
  4. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 November 2016 13: 15
    +2
    Yeah, this training has begun ...
    Everyone is waiting for the results of elections in the United States, and there already according to the situation.
  5. Hyhy
    Hyhy 8 November 2016 13: 15
    0
    And how many devices are that?
  6. Oden280
    Oden280 8 November 2016 13: 20
    +2
    Kuzya has been hanging around Syria since the 5th.
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 8 November 2016 13: 29
      +3
      No, I didn’t hang out; yesterday I was east of Cyprus
      1. Alexxis
        Alexxis 8 November 2016 14: 24
        +3
        Quote: Rustam
        No, I didn’t hang out; yesterday I was east of Cyprus

        And what is located east of Cyprus? - That's right, Syria.
        1. Alexxis
          Alexxis 8 November 2016 14: 26
          +1
          From Cyprus to Syria, just over 100 km.
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 November 2016 15: 39
            +3
            Quote: Alexxis
            From Cyprus to Syria, just over 100 km.

            To be more precise, a little over 200km wink wink
        2. Rustam
          Rustam 8 November 2016 15: 46
          +3
          Correctly :)

          But one thing but, we will fly only on the 10th

          Russia closes the stretch of the eastern Mediterranean Sea before rocket fire.
          It is indicated that the Russian aircraft carrier group, headed by Admiral Kuznetsov, will launch missiles and train flights of carrier-based aviation in two date ranges: November 10-15 and November 17-22.
          1. Standard
            Standard 8 November 2016 16: 16
            0
            Quote: Rustam
            But one thing but, we will fly only on the 10th

            It is a DATE, not a "but".
            From the 10th, departures will begin.
    2. ancient
      ancient 8 November 2016 14: 53
      +2
      Quote: Oden280
      Kuzya has been hanging around Syria since the 5th.

      As you write ... "Kuzya" by November 2, with a sin in half, barely reached Ktira soldier soldier
    3. Standard
      Standard 8 November 2016 16: 14
      0
      The mass prevents Kuza from "hanging out".
  7. viktor.
    viktor. 8 November 2016 13: 23
    +2
    rather, hunting grounds are eyeing. Witch recount laughing
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 8 November 2016 13: 33
    +4
    Along the entire route, Russian ships were under the scrutiny of the NATO leadership and the Western press, which frightened the townsfolk with Russia's “aggressive” intentions.

    Now close attention has shifted to the Su-33, MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB fighters, Ka-27, Ka-31 and Ka-52 helicopters ... We are waiting for the next moaning ...
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 8 November 2016 13: 46
      +1
      Who switched to the Su-33, information (more precisely, a throw-in) from Defense.ru, how would it be a Russian site, not? :)
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 8 November 2016 13: 51
        +4
        And you think "partners" will bury themselves in a rag and remain silent, no? They will come up with a couple, three excesses ...
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 8 November 2016 15: 36
          +1
          That's when there will be a publication about the Su-33 from the well-known Western military sayots or a communiqué from the NATO countries or the USA, then we’ll talk
  9. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 8 November 2016 13: 41
    +3
    Well done.
    Good luck and clear skies to our pilots ..
  10. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 8 November 2016 13: 46
    +8
    And as one literary hero said: "Let them take Kazan on the way back, so as not to travel twice" am
  11. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 8 November 2016 14: 04
    +7
    There is only one question - why are they patrolling this sky? Traditional P-73? Or the next multi-alphanumeric version of the R-27?
    In all photos and videos of "Kuznetsov" cars are standing or take off empty.
    1. ancient
      ancient 8 November 2016 14: 56
      +7
      Quote: Alexey RA
      There is only one question - why are they patrolling this sky? Traditional P-73? Or the next multi-alphanumeric version of the R-27?
      In all photos and videos of "Kuznetsov" cars are standing or take off empty.

      What are you not .. "patriotic" questions you ask .... just a word wink
      "Local" urya-patriots "... will not understand, sir wassat
      1. Standard
        Standard 8 November 2016 16: 19
        +3
        It’s good not to be a patriot, huh?
        Or is it enough to be non-local?
        1. ancient
          ancient 8 November 2016 16: 54
          +4
          Quote: Norma
          It’s good not to be a patriot, huh?


          Of course ... no "rose-colored glasses" .. everything is very clear and simple ... that's why there is no "bitter for wasted years" wink
          But it can be difficult to communicate with "outsiders" ..... "zombieinfo" is not well aware of its business wassat
      2. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 8 November 2016 16: 24
        +2
        are you allergic to "patriotism"? What makes you so twisted?
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 8 November 2016 17: 59
          +2
          Quote: Olegovi4
          are you allergic to "patriotism"? What makes you so twisted?

          This is the most ancient experienced "sofa pilot" and all-propalschik so don't expect any other comments from him smile
        2. Scalpel
          Scalpel 8 November 2016 22: 26
          +1
          We are allergic to idiocy.
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 8 November 2016 16: 33
        +2
        Quote: ancient
        What are you not .. "patriotic" questions you ask .... just a word

        Well, time is traditional slanderers and defamers of the bright Russian present held up, I had to ask this politically incorrect question. smile
      4. 31R-US
        31R-US 8 November 2016 17: 10
        0
        So for sure, sir, we don’t understand, sir. wassat
    2. Vitali-46
      Vitali-46 8 November 2016 14: 56
      0
      Peace to your home, Lord! Regarding the take-off of aviation without ammunition ... Yesterday I read a commentary by one clever man, about the Kuzi campaign to the shores of Syria. the ship does not operate at full power (he motivated this by the fact that he walked for a very long time to the final goal, at a speed of 9 knots.) And for takeoff of carrier-based aircraft with a full combat load, the cruiser must go almost at maximum speed! ? Who thinks about this?
      1. ancient
        ancient 8 November 2016 15: 17
        +7
        Quote: Vitaliy-46
        So


        Wake up surprised, but the "smart guy" you are referring to wrote almost everything is correct, only I would describe the "venture" from the MO in another way .. so to speak in a local way ... "show-off golimy" soldier
        Everything else your "smart guy" writes on .. "the brink of a foul" bully although in the internet there has already been so much written and truthful and ... "crooked" that any conclusions can be drawn soldier
        And Kuznetsov walked very POWERFULLY .... earlier such crossings to Gibraltar took 20-25 days, now it is 11 ... it seems like it is "settling", but it turns out ... not a fig. "
        Howl and "disappeared"! Kuznetsov for a week from all the media and .. all .. "urya-articles" .. but the pause seems to have dragged on ... because everything should be in moderation ... that's why this one was "born" ... "urya- article "from the OBR series wassat
        Any aircraft carrier of ANY type and ANY aircraft. Accessories, when releasing their aircraft wing, should stand in the wind and develop maximum speed soldier (even for Harrier verticals, it is preferable at speed and from a springboard) soldier
        1. prorab_ak
          prorab_ak 8 November 2016 16: 11
          +3
          Plus, if I'm not mistaken, 33 are heavy. If they are dressed up with rockets like a Christmas tree, they won’t take off, even if they put a hundred devils in boilers and squeeze out everything from Kuzi that’s all ... they take off and land with a couple of lonely RVV .... on here to write such a low-key, they shower with caps that have no analogues in the world)))
          1. Standard
            Standard 8 November 2016 16: 22
            0
            Quote: prorab_ak
            write this down here

            Why is "nizzyayaya"
            You just need to write, as well as to write, when you cannot bear it. (with)
            Those present, apparently, still "can"
          2. patsak
            patsak 8 November 2016 18: 00
            +1
            Yes, the Su-33 is heavy, the reinforcement of the design of the airframe for boarding affects the ship, but it takes off perfectly from the deck with the maximum combat load allowed for takeoff from the ship, both mixed, for working on the ground and air targets, and with the target.
          3. GSH-18
            GSH-18 8 November 2016 23: 14
            0
            Quote: prorab_ak
            if not mistaken, 33 are heavy.

            These are not 33, and the "aircraft carrier" is a bit short yes Yes, and for a long time none of the designers in their right mind has been sculpting on aircraft carriers for a long time.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 8 November 2016 16: 38
          +3
          Quote: ancient
          Wake up surprised, but the "smart guy" you are referring to wrote almost everything is correct, only I would describe the "venture" from the MO in another way .. so to speak in a local way ... "show-off golimy"

          There is an option that this is the last "Kuzi" trip before the long-awaited repair. So we decided to finally try to work out all possible tasks on it in combat conditions.
          The composition of the side wing, as it were, hints that the TAVKR exit is more experimental in nature - otherwise there would be no such heterogeneity (Su-33, MiG-29 and even Ka-52).
          1. ancient
            ancient 8 November 2016 17: 10
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Quote: ancient
            Wake up surprised, but the "smart guy" you are referring to wrote almost everything is correct, only I would describe the "venture" from the MO in another way .. so to speak in a local way ... "show-off golimy"

            There is an option that this is the last "Kuzi" trip before the long-awaited repair. So we decided to finally try to work out all possible tasks on it in combat conditions.
            The composition of the side wing, as it were, hints that the TAVKR exit is more experimental in nature - otherwise there would be no such heterogeneity (Su-33, MiG-29 and even Ka-52).

            1. It may well be ... that's just ...... "Will there be enough money for a REAL REPAIR"?
            2. And about the composition ....... everything is the same as in the Navy .... all that we can, unfortunately soldier
          2. AndreyM
            AndreyM 9 November 2016 09: 25
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            The composition of the side wing, as it were, hints that the TAVKR exit is more experimental in nature - otherwise there would be no such heterogeneity (Su-33, MiG-29 and even Ka-52).

            The composition of the wing is formed depending on the tasks. If the purpose of the campaign was the air defense cover of the squadron (as was the case during his last combat duty in the Middle East), then the air group would consist only of the Su-33 and Ka-31. The presence of the MiG-29 and Ka-52, capable of using weapons on ground targets, hints that the Kuzi air wing is indeed planned to be used against militants.
        3. patsak
          patsak 8 November 2016 17: 54
          +2
          Where does the nicest information about 20-25 days to Gibraltar come from? Did the magpie on the tail bring a voice from above in a dream? "Any aircraft carrier of ANY type and ANY state owned accessory, when releasing its air wing, must get up to the wind ..." and create conditions for aircraft to take off, that is, the speed of the oncoming oncoming air flow, for this it is not necessary to "develop maximum speed."
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 8 November 2016 18: 08
            +3
            Quote: patsak
            for this it is not necessary to "develop maximum speed".

            Ejection AB - yes, optional. But ski jumping - it is highly desirable. If. Of course, do not fly the Su-33 with a pair of R-73.
            1. patsak
              patsak 8 November 2016 18: 48
              +3
              I do not agree. Once again, I draw attention to the fact that the main indicator for takeoff from a springboard is the optimal range of speed of the oncoming oncoming air flow on the deck, this will determine what speed the ship will support and from what starting position (taking into account the armament suspension) the takeoff will take place. By the way, the Su-33 takes off from a short distance (95m) with the suspended 2xP27 + 2hp73 quite calmly and with 5 knots of progress.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 8 November 2016 22: 33
      +2
      Quote: Alexey RA
      In all photos and videos of "Kuznetsov" cars are standing or take off empty.

      Well, not so empty at all.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 10 November 2016 10: 41
        0
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        e so empty at all.

        Judging by the "butterfly" - R-27 ***. But the number of those suspended is impressive ... smile
  12. legkostup
    legkostup 8 November 2016 16: 44
    +1
    And what will the Su-33 "hit" with ?! Is it about the ground.
    1. roadsmell
      roadsmell 8 November 2016 17: 41
      +1
      What bothered you so much?
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    2. patsak
      patsak 8 November 2016 18: 11
      +3
      That the armament technicians will be suspended under the wings and will "strike", if, of course, the order is to strike.
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  13. tundra
    tundra 8 November 2016 23: 24
    +1
    Quote: saturn.mmm
    it turns out that the average speed is about 12 knots per hour.

    That's what you ran into average speed.
    For example, from Novorossa to Chelyabinsk,
    with an overnight stay in Volgograd and near Ufa, the average speed went 55-57 km, along the BC.
    This is with gas stations, with a drink, eat and eats needs.
    Plus fuel economy, fair wind, a baitwind in my opinion is when it blows aft at 45g.
    You can’t laugh, the truck is the sailing of the wow and, as a result, 150 liters of savings
    So this is what I’m asking, the question to the Maremans, even if he was able to develop 100 km, he won’t break his hooves by eating a bit, he’s not war tea, and he won’t give war, it’s not a tea clipper, well no vehicle can move at constant speed, straits, unrest, any special tasks .. restrictions due to busy shipping.
    Especially such a barn. The same savings, plus deterioration, and even force the FIG technique, to work on it (or even fight).
    And that was with us, that route with an average speed of 75-80 passed, eyes are red, and they don’t get out of repairs, we must hurry in a hurry,
    then you will be in time everywhere.
    and then the average speed, average speed.
    This is not for you from Muhask to Zahudalovo, to drive the girls.
  14. Lucy
    Lucy 8 November 2016 23: 33
    +2
    Quote: patsak
    I do not agree. Once again, I draw attention to the fact that the main indicator for takeoff from a springboard is the optimal range of speed of the oncoming oncoming air flow on the deck, this will determine what speed the ship will support and from what starting position (taking into account the armament suspension) the takeoff will take place. By the way, the Su-33 takes off from a short distance (95m) with the suspended 2xP27 + 2hp73 quite calmly and with 5 knots of progress.

    By the way, have you also studied the airplane flight control system of the Su-27k and the IPP tavkr "Kuznetsov" in YouTube?
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  16. Lucy
    Lucy 8 November 2016 23: 41
    +1
    Quote: saturn.mmm
    Quote: Alexey RA
    In all photos and videos of "Kuznetsov" cars are standing or take off empty.

    Well, not so empty at all.

    Is it in the Kola Bay? And with the discs?
    1. Petio
      Petio 9 November 2016 00: 10
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      And if they use Khmeimim as a base for a jump, then the load can be increased even more than Kuznetsov-Khmeimim-2 flight with blacksmith bombs
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 9 November 2016 12: 34
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      Quote: lusya
      Is it in the Kola Bay? And with the discs?

      You probably know better where, I rolled up from some forum.
      Maybe you know what men in white shirts?
  17. AndreyM
    AndreyM 9 November 2016 09: 19
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    Quote: Rustam
    the group is currently located east of Cyprus

    So there the distance to Syria is much less than the combat radius of Sushki
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    Ustinov 055 055 9 November 2016 09: 45
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    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: prorab_ak
    if not mistaken, 33 are heavy.

    These are not 33, and the "aircraft carrier" is a bit short yes Yes, and for a long time none of the designers in their right mind has been sculpting on aircraft carriers for a long time.

    But what about the respected aircraft carrier of England ??????????????????????????????????????????
    ??
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  20. Lucy
    Lucy 9 November 2016 15: 37
    +2
    Quote: saturn.mmm
    Quote: lusya
    Is it in the Kola Bay? And with the discs?

    You probably know better where, I rolled up from some forum.
    Maybe you know what men in white shirts?


    But yak.
    Why in white shirts, but not in white pants on the background of the coast with a slight dwarf green on the rocks?
    Probably the sailors of the SF holiday.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 9 November 2016 19: 04
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      Quote: lusya
      Probably the sailors of the SF holiday.

      Did the planes dress up like Christmas trees?

      There is a video where Su-33s take off the third position with a body kit, I don’t know what course Kuznetsov was traveling with and how much kerosene was on the planes but they took off confidently, the third position is not short, but still, it’s just sports interest.

      Maybe the opus had in mind Pike-b, it seems to be according to the NATO classification as Shark.
  21. Lucy
    Lucy 9 November 2016 21: 49
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    Quote: saturn.mmm
    Quote: lusya
    Probably the sailors of the SF holiday.

    Did the planes dress up like Christmas trees?

    There is a video where Su-33s take off the third position with a body kit, I don’t know what course Kuznetsov was traveling with and how much kerosene was on the planes but they took off confidently, the third position is not short, but still, it’s just sports interest.

    Maybe the opus had in mind Pike-b, it seems to be according to the NATO classification as Shark.


    You are not in the subject of the question asked.
    1. The body kit can be imitation. This is especially true for SDs suspended on the deck of the Su-27, after a certain number of landings on the deck (we read in the RLE the permissible overload when landing), the SDs are waiting for an SPR of 279 kiap, or for scrap, and the product costs a lot of rubles!
    2. In 279 kiap was p / c - the craftsman took off without incl. afterburner from the 2nd position, when controlling the PRP - “on the brakes” in the person of the captain. So that c fool can ..... Air Force Wonderland.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 9 November 2016 23: 12
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      Quote: lusya
      The body kit can be imitation. This is especially true for SDs suspended on the deck of the Su-27, after a certain number of landings on the deck (we read in the RLE the permissible overload when landing), the SDs are waiting for an SPR of 279 kiap, or for scrap, and the product costs a lot of rubles!

      Now it seems like it’s clear why they take off without a body kit, they take care of rockets.