Beating up a child or "Invulnerable tank" Abrams "

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The US military likes to say that their child Abrams tank is almost the best in the world, its frontal armor is invulnerable and there are no rivals capable of defeating it. But is it?



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  1. +6
    25 October 2016 13: 06
    Yeah, insanity grew stronger. So underestimate the military power of the enemy can only completely brainless people. There are no armies in the troops and will not be soon, the main tank in the army - the T72 in almost everything is inferior to Abrams, the T-90 can be counted on the fingers, and the United States has a huge fleet of these tanks. So who and what baby can beat?
    1. Oml
      +5
      25 October 2016 13: 37
      Quote: Engineer
      Yeah, insanity grew stronger. So underestimate the military power of the enemy can only completely brainless people. There are no armies in the troops and will not be soon, the main tank in the army - the T72 in almost everything is inferior to Abrams, the T-90 can be counted on the fingers, and the United States has a huge fleet of these tanks. So who and what baby can beat?


      What do you propose to overestimate? In your opinion, the whole video is a lie?
    2. +6
      25 October 2016 13: 43
      And when you yourself were not in the fighting compartment of the tank yourself. Engineer.
    3. +3
      25 October 2016 13: 47
      Our tanks were designed for classic tank operations, and the confrontation of the classical army in close cooperation with motorized riflemen and aviation, for "general" battles, where the survivability of each particular tank is less important than the total firepower per unit of time. The Americans just better guessed the concept of application that became relevant 40 years after the development of tanks of the T72 / Abrams generation, the same Armata, is even better suited to this concept, when fighting other tanks is not as important as avoiding an RPG shot from around the corner.
      1. +1
        25 October 2016 14: 06
        13.47. Interesting. Are there anti-tank drones? Like, a drone induces a projectile flying from cover or the projectile is separated from the drone, acceleration is turned on and the projectile flies into the tank. And the shell can be with incendiary mixture, and not with explosives. Or are such projects simply unrealistic or very expensive?
        1. +2
          25 October 2016 15: 06
          To translate this idea into reality, you need only a drone and one element from RBC-500, for example.
        2. +1
          25 October 2016 20: 37
          Israeli "Spike". This is certainly not a drone, but a very effective weapon against tanks and very expensive
      2. 0
        26 October 2016 10: 29
        On the one hand, I would like to note that they did not guess it, but created it themselves by inspiring (at least, and perhaps directly supporting) a modern-type terrorist threat with ambush guerrilla (front-line) fighting, attacking all sorts of natives and islanders without full armed forces. On the other hand, M1, being the brightest representative of differential booking, is best suited for the classic front-line confrontation, so they didn’t guess at all: the APU is set on fire from large-caliber machine guns, modern tandem cumulative weapons of destruction are kept only by the tower’s forehead (in ambush the battle), KAZ is not even in the project (unless it’s purchased from Israel, and even then there is no final decision), in a hurry, the TUSK developed makes the already heavy tank heavier without confirmation effective STI. As well as with the gas transport system for the main applications in the desert, compensating for its dust sensitivity with huge air filters. One gets the impression that the internal political and economic confrontations in the distribution of military budgets and contracts simply nullify all engineering efforts, as a result of which the mericans constantly give birth to something completely inconsistent with modern combat. The same thing happened with F-22, when it was recognized that he was neither a fish (a fighter for gaining air supremacy so-so), nor meat (a strike aircraft was also not so hot), and the leapfrog with F-35 began. So I can’t understand where you saw this American insight, looking at 40 years in advance. For 10 years ahead, they see nothing but the constant desire for world hegemony.
    4. +3
      25 October 2016 22: 20
      The T-72BU, T-72BA, T72-B2, T72-B3 tanks have Svir and Reflex, which are guaranteed to destroy any tank at a distance of 5 km. The states were very lucky that this complex is not exported.
      By the way, Abrams has not been produced for a long time, the plant is closed, only modernization in the city of Lima.
    5. +4
      25 October 2016 23: 19
      He shot at him in the 80s from the T-62. Great target.
    6. 0
      26 October 2016 10: 09
      If I do not like anyone, call: I will come and amorous. If someone doesn’t like me, you can always hide in a corner and cry. Your V.O.
  2. +4
    25 October 2016 13: 06
    Give me a hat, but harder, I also want to quit.
  3. +2
    25 October 2016 13: 10
    neighing over the instruction, especially about cola pinned laughing
  4. +11
    25 October 2016 13: 22
    Nice car, burns bright and beautiful wassat
  5. +8
    25 October 2016 13: 29
    Engineer, and in what area are you an engineer?
    And at the very least, we do not rush about with our exclusivity and invulnerability as with a written sack ...
  6. +2
    25 October 2016 13: 36
    movie bullshit
    MZ stood back in 64
    and abrams is a worthy adversary
    1. Oml
      +4
      25 October 2016 13: 43
      Quote: cte-power
      movie bullshit
      MZ stood back in 64
      and abrams is a worthy adversary


      At 64 there was no mechanism, but an automatic loader. In all higher models - a mechanism. A worthy adversary - for whom?
      1. +3
        25 October 2016 15: 03
        You are right, but you made a mistake in the "models" - on the higher "models" -T-64 and its "compilation", the T-80, there is a MZ, and on the T-72, this Nizhny Tagil "development of the model" T-64, less reliable AZ-very much the local designers wanted to "express themselves" and shove their "acorn" into the dimensions of the "sixty-four" tower, albeit with a deterioration in combat and operational characteristics ... I wonder if the Tagil residents were able to get rid of the "jambs" of their native AZ or everything remained as in the previous "model"?
      2. 0
        26 October 2016 01: 28
        Do not treat me about 64 - there stands
        for me as a tanker
    2. +1
      25 October 2016 23: 17
      The crew is fighting. The dignity of tanks will be manifested in full-time confrontation, as well as a talking room and fortune telling on instructions.
    3. +1
      26 October 2016 02: 00
      and abrams is a worthy adversary
      Only for Arabs with old Soviet weapons, and that does not shine. It’s just that American tankers have not yet encountered a worthy adversary and decent equipment in a real battle. In the event of a direct clash with (God forbid) the Russian army, I simply do not envy them. And what kind of warriors are Arabs, Negroes and all sorts of other Aborigines, everyone knows so well that nothing can be trusted except Kalashnikov.
  7. +5
    25 October 2016 13: 38
    Freshman about the burning of Abrasha by the IGilovites
    1. 0
      25 October 2016 14: 15
      13.38. Well burned bastard! But is this a commercial? Just like a tank with gasoline burned. Or are tanks really burning like that? It seems the tower should explode, but it burns. Flames as from a blowtorch nozzle.
      1. +3
        25 October 2016 14: 37
        "The towers are blown up" by the wave from the OFS (high-explosive fragmentation shells) which are absent in the Abrams ammunition as a class (there are only BOPS and shrapnel shells). If you load the OFS into the Abrams (like the Germans for the Leopards), then the towers from the Abrams will fly like fireworks
      2. +7
        25 October 2016 14: 45
        Quote: Region 34
        Flames as from a blowtorch nozzle.

        It burns gunpowder in unitaries.
    2. 0
      26 October 2016 13: 40
      Where is allah akbar? Something is not believed, it’s not IS, but the mericans themselves, to knock out military budgets for modernization lol
  8. vmo
    +1
    25 October 2016 15: 04
    Question. Can I breathe? As usual: boltology and boasting of the Americans!
  9. 0
    26 October 2016 06: 25
    Is it true that the American "Abrams" in all respects lost to the modified Polish T64 at the NATO exercises in Europe last year?
    1. 0
      26 October 2016 12: 38
      64-ka was not supplied to the army of the countries participating in ATS. The Poles are likely to have 72 matches. 64 was in service exclusively with the Soviet Army.
  10. 0
    7 November 2016 19: 55
    I recall only vaguely articles from the journal ZVO. by the way. will call correctly. EBRAMs.tank.m1 non m2. This is our 34ke American response only after 40 years. emphasis on armor and electronics. True, the price of the first unit is sky-high. at current prices, it’s something like 1 buckets of Baku rubikov.eta machine for the battlefield. type of WALKING. i.e. a pure combat unit in a tank mess. if someone will be interested and if you have access to the archives of the ZVO magazine, then there you can read articles on this topic + color photo-stickers in the center of the journal. the question is if memory doesn’t change around 3. PS. my grandmother wrote it out and also TM .ВС!