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PACE head calls on Russian delegation to return "to start dialogue"

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Speaking at the opening of the organization’s autumn session, the head of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Pedro Agramunt, said that it was time to return to a full-fledged dialogue. To this end, he calls on the Russian delegation to return to the PACE. LifeNews cites Pedro Agramunt’s statement:
The situation when Russia is absent from the assembly is not to the benefit of anyone - neither Russia, nor the assembly, nor any of the other 46 countries.



Then Agramunt issued the following rant:
All conflicts must be resolved within the territorial integrity of states, I repeat, all conflicts ... The borders of states can be changed not by force, but on the basis of bilateral agreements. What is happening in Ukraine, the annexation of the Crimea, as well as conflicts in Georgia, Moldova and Azerbaijan are unacceptable. As Europeans, we must resolve conflicts in our common space. Parliamentary diplomacy is an adequate means to inspire political negotiations. After discussing different opinions, we must together find solutions.


Despite the fact that Mr. Agramunt, during his speech, recalled Ukraine and called the reunification of Crimea with Russia "annexation", the Ukrainian side expressed strong indignation at the suggestion of the head of PACE about the need to return the delegation of the Russian Federation.

PACE head calls on Russian delegation to return "to start dialogue"


Member of the Ukrainian delegation to the PACE Irina Gerashchenko commented on the statement of Agramunt like this (quote UNIAN):
PACE President Agramunt in his opening speech at the autumn session does not even try to hide that frequent trips to Moscow made themselves felt. He publicly complains that the absence of Russia in PACE does not benefit either the Russian Federation, or PACE, or the other countries participating in the assembly. Makes some strange hints that "some groups interfere with the dialogue with the Russian Federation and that they should not interfere with the dialogue." I wonder what kind of groups he has in mind?


And so Alexey Pushkov, a member of the Russian delegation to PACE, commented on the situation:
Kiev is nervous: in PACE the mood is growing in favor of the full-fledged return of the Russian delegation. The Ukrainian delegation is preparing to disrupt this process.


Recall that earlier, Russia recalled its delegation from PACE due to the fact that Russian parliamentarians were constantly losing their words during sessional sessions, while all PACE rhetoric was slipping into openly anti-Russian.
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  1. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 10 October 2016 15: 11 New
    24
    The borders of the state should not be changed by force, but by agreement of both states ... you didn’t get sick there for an hour, which state will voluntarily give part of its own territory, and what’s the matter with which you’ve already passed the Crimea.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 10 October 2016 15: 29 New
      21
      It's funny to hear from American prostitutes that we enter the pro-American organization again.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 10 October 2016 15: 49 New
        11
        The head of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, Pedro Agramunt, speaking at the opening of the organization’s autumn session, said that it was time to return to a full-fledged dialogue.

        Not on the way for us with the pedro!
        1. KAV
          KAV 10 October 2016 15: 54 New
          25
          What is happening in Ukraine, the annexation of Crimea, as well as conflicts in Georgia, Moldova and Azerbaijan are unacceptable.
          But after such words, there’s nothing to even talk to them about! Remember other countries! About Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and others like them! But no, it’s impossible to remember this ... Are they calling us to return to PACE in order to blame us again? A mug does not crack?
          1. PAM
            PAM 10 October 2016 16: 37 New
            15
            and what about Kosovo he didn’t hint
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 10 October 2016 17: 12 New
              +3
              Let them leave Syria.
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 10 October 2016 17: 25 New
              +2
              It will still be necessary to return Russia to PACE, but only on the SOVEREIGNTY, and not on the colonial conditions of the United States and the collective West for the Russian Federation.
              PACE is some kind of public world platform for voicing the international position of Russia from the lips of representatives of the Russian Federation. (Western media have long been a functional unit of the US State Department.)
              And it is precisely this SOVEREIGN and TRUE variant of the conditions for the presence of the Russian Federation and its work in PACE that is exactly what makes Kiev hysterical.

              Kiev remembers how the Ukrainian Bandera ATO volunteers were expelled from the forum hall by PACE guards with their demonstratively dirty torn Ukrainian flag of the "heroic" ATO, delivered by them from near the Donbass! Yes, even the PACE guard in front of everyone's eyes will "wipe" his "snot" from his nose (well, if you want, sniffed it with disgust)! And suddenly something like this will happen to the Ukrainians in PACE again ?! But it will happen!
              1. andrew42
                andrew42 21 June 2017 14: 52 New
                0
                Russia has nothing to do in any PACE. There is nothing to dissolve among the crowd of Western European dwarfs, playing performances under the whip of Karabas in the form of the Zionist elite of the United States. This, sorry for the expression, a lousy pass will never and under any circumstances become for Russia a tool to uphold its own position. Therefore, we need "it" to us, like a fish .. cage.
        2. zanoza
          zanoza 10 October 2016 16: 11 New
          +7
          They suggest returning to PACE on the previous discriminatory conditions - are they coming * from? Or are we considered idiots? Let them continue to listen at meetings to their delusions and cries of ukrobandera.
        3. Firstvanguard
          Firstvanguard 10 October 2016 16: 13 New
          0
          Quote: alex-s
          Not on the way for us with the pedro!

          Pedro, he's such a pedro wassat
        4. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 10 October 2016 22: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: alex-s
          Not on the way for us with the pedro!

          These at the end fucking "Pedras", speaking about bilateralism, forget about Yugoslavia, Kosovo, the bombing of Serbia, the hanged ruler of Iraq, torn to pieces by Gaddafi, and so on, etc. you can get tired of listing all the shoals of "Western democracy" headed by n = u-n = d-o = yourself. They hold us completely for d-e = b-lov, or the point is so squeezed that they have forgotten how to really think.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 10 October 2016 16: 23 New
        11
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        It's funny to hear from American prostitutes that we enter the pro-American organization again.

        And what’s funny is that they don’t receive contributions from Russia, so I want to return it. Only in FIG you need this bunch of mattress sixes. hi
        1. igorkuzik
          igorkuzik 10 October 2016 16: 44 New
          +6
          Unfortunately, they receive contributions from Russia
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 10 October 2016 16: 46 New
            +1
            Contributions are now being received in part.
      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 10 October 2016 16: 45 New
        +2
        That's right, it took some money .. That's what they remembered about Russia, and they win in both cases, if we pay full fees, and if we don’t go back, overseas uncle will pay Euro prostitutes ..
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 11 October 2016 00: 15 New
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          That's right, it took some money .. That's what they remembered about Russia, and they win in both cases, if we pay full fees, and if we don’t go back, overseas uncle will pay Euro prostitutes ..

          In any case, the result will be one so let Uncle Sam pay them, not us. For spitting in us. But to make it a condition that the Baltic countries and Ukraine should leave PACE, on the grounds that they are not full-fledged states, since no official distinction has been made, it would be interesting. UN, they are listed as the territory of the former USSR.
      4. portyanka
        portyanka 11 October 2016 12: 37 New
        0
        there is nothing for us to talk about with PACE RIOT.
        Let them with Pussy Reuters about their cormorant.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 10 October 2016 15: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: katalonec2014
      The borders of the state should not be changed by force, but by agreement of both states ... you didn’t get sick there for an hour, which state will voluntarily give part of its own territory, and what’s the matter with which you’ve already passed the Crimea.

      A whisker. Everything was agreed with the then legitimate Yanyk and the illegitimate deposed Azarov. They were not opposed. The people of Crimea are also in favor. Absolutely legal. The topic is closed.
      1. jjj
        jjj 10 October 2016 15: 50 New
        +8
        So much time has passed since Russia does not participate in these talking rooms. We didn’t get worse from this. Rather, it breathes even more freely. And hands are untied, and there is no one to reproach. There Britain looked at this matter and also decided to screw
    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 10 October 2016 17: 04 New
      0
      As Europeans, we must resolve conflicts in our common space. Parliamentary diplomacy is an adequate vehicle for inspiring political negotiations. Having discussed various opinions, we must find solutions together.
      Oh well said! I can’t even believe it.
    4. tchoni
      tchoni 10 October 2016 17: 12 New
      +1
      Here. And historically Kiev is a Russian city ... That’s nervous laughing
    5. marna
      marna 10 October 2016 17: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: katalonec2014
      The borders of the state should not be changed by force, but by agreement of both states ...

      So they were not changed, but restored. The borders of Russia were changed in 1954, and without the consent of the parties.
      Another offer that you have to refuse.
    6. Stas157
      Stas157 10 October 2016 21: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: katalonec2014
      you didn’t get sick there for an hour, which state will voluntarily give part of its own territory, and indeed what’s the matter with, you’ve already passed through the Crimea.

      How what! The USSR completely voluntarily abandoned its territories! Moreover, Ukraine in the USSR received Crimea for its beautiful eyes, and when the USSR collapsed, Yeltsin did not even remember the Crimea! Many countries, as a rule, have territorial claims, but modern Russia does not have them. Not in what territories does not pretend. Even refuses when she is offered !! Donbass, South Ossetia, Transnistria.
  2. Uryukc
    Uryukc 10 October 2016 15: 11 New
    13
    Pedro, along with Europe, would go on a long erotic journey. If we need to clarify the position of European states, we can contact the American Embassy.

    You don't need to call me a quilted jacket - you just have to pay for mistakes and not "call for dialogue", so let them pay.
    1. just exp
      just exp 10 October 2016 15: 20 New
      +6
      So they want them to pay for their mistakes, they just call for us to pay for their mistakes.
      so if it were my opinion, then PACE "PASLO" would be on .....
      I don’t see any sense in a sharaga that does not solve anything, but it regularly pours slop on you.
      1. Iline
        Iline 10 October 2016 15: 42 New
        11
        stated that it was time to return to a full-fledged dialogue

        Where to where to return? In principle, there was never a full-fledged dialogue. And you have already made it clear that Russia will not be just whipping boys in your office.
        But how soon do you resolve territorial disputes (let’s recall the same Kosovo and Bosnia, why go far) and how many victims this leads the whole world to know by hearsay.
  3. Muvka
    Muvka 10 October 2016 15: 11 New
    +3
    Let them whine. We don’t need to go back there.
  4. Vend
    Vend 10 October 2016 15: 12 New
    +2
    Another "monkey" is trying to sit on two chairs. They are funny and stupid.
  5. Moor
    Moor 10 October 2016 15: 12 New
    11

    Bored darlings lol
  6. I read the news
    I read the news 10 October 2016 15: 16 New
    21
    All conflicts must be resolved within the framework of the territorial integrity of states, I repeat once again, all conflicts ... The borders of states can be changed not by force, but on the basis of bilateral agreements.


    Do I understand correctly that Mr. Agramunt proposes to recreate Yugoslavia?
  7. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 10 October 2016 15: 21 New
    13
    The first time I agree with ukroinoy-not figs we do there in this PACE! Pushkov has to look for another job, and our group of "paseshniks" -to dissolve. From this demogogic sabbath called PACE, one fig is no use for Russia!
  8. EvgNik
    EvgNik 10 October 2016 15: 22 New
    +3
    What to talk about with this "organization", which does not even know how to think. Again about the "annexation" of Crimea? Let them think about how to resolve the issue with migrants, if they are not late.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 October 2016 22: 07 New
      0
      Late already.
  9. potap6509
    potap6509 10 October 2016 15: 24 New
    +1
    This ... Don Pedro would go with his PACE, it’s like stepping into a cow’s cake inadvertently, ruining the shoes, and how much it stinks. am
  10. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 October 2016 15: 32 New
    +3
    I hope that the delegation will put forward a counter condition. Russia will not pay for the work of PACE during the period when the delegation did not take part in the work. And also will not pay for those structures that are associated with PACE. And in general, it makes no sense to pay right away. We have sanctions, we have a rat, the economy is in tension ... In 2006, the United States did not make the United Nations bankrupt. And nothing, they live, they do not blow into the mustache.
  11. dsm100
    dsm100 10 October 2016 15: 33 New
    +4
    They would send this old bespectacled fart on a long erotic journey with his PACE ...
  12. Alekseits
    Alekseits 10 October 2016 15: 35 New
    +3
    Quote: I readNews
    All conflicts must be resolved within the framework of the territorial integrity of states, I repeat once again, all conflicts ... The borders of states can be changed not by force, but on the basis of bilateral agreements.


    Do I understand correctly that Mr. Agramunt proposes to recreate Yugoslavia?


    good good good
  13. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 10 October 2016 15: 41 New
    +3
    Let Pedro call everyone Conchit and Julio there ..
  14. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 10 October 2016 15: 48 New
    +2
    It is curious how it will end - in PACE, Russophobes are entirely sitting. At the same time, PACE itself does not need anyone for nothing; except throwing feces on the fan, it does nothing.

    The Russian conditions were previously announced: full participation; an end to the practice of depriving someone (not only of Russia) of powers; equal monitoring of all ... for example, the same uk-dov, and not on the subject "respect for the rights of sodomites", but, for example, regarding the absence of torture, observance of freedom of speech in the media, etc.
  15. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 10 October 2016 15: 50 New
    +3
    It's time for Pedro to retire due to his exhausted health PACE sessions. Rest, Pedro, rest! The doctor said to the morgue, ugh, to rest, then to "rest."
    All conflicts must be resolved within the framework of the territorial integrity of states, I repeat, all conflicts ...

    Pedro, due to his unrestrained senile amnesia, in the process forgot that there was such a country of Yugoslavia on this very European continent and how they "resolved" that "conflict". Well, in truth it is better not to remember, otherwise you look and the tribunal is not far above the likes of Pedro. Yes Pedro?
  16. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 10 October 2016 15: 56 New
    +1
    Let them continue frequent trips to Moscow, they need more
  17. rus-5819
    rus-5819 10 October 2016 15: 58 New
    +2
    The situation when Russia is absent from the assembly is not to the benefit of anyone - neither Russia, nor the assembly, nor any of the other 46 countries.
    One of three: either they received a “go-ahead” from overseas, or they need money, or they admit their complete worthlessness without Russia (the latter is hardly all exceptional). The question is: does Russia need to pay money (and a lot), “pour from empty to empty in order to“ participate in European idle talk. ”All the same, the old woman has insanity and she does what the psychiatrist suggested because of a puddle
  18. mlad
    mlad 10 October 2016 16: 02 New
    +3
    Somehow Russia, without PACE, lived very well and will live
  19. win
    win 10 October 2016 16: 05 New
    10
    The borders of the state should not be changed by force, but by agreement of both states


    A significant example is the German land of Saarland, which is located in the west of Germany.
    Several centuries as a result of wars, this land several times passed into the ownership of either Germany or France. After the referendum of 1935, she became part of Germany. The vast majority are ethnic Germans.
    After Hitler's defeat, the land was returned back to France.
    In 1957, Germany insisted on a second referendum.
    And although there were already about 60% of ethnic Germans, Germany took the land of Saar with a majority of votes.
    The analogy with Crimea is visible to everyone except Europe.
    Historical examples of Europe are not a decree.
    The same arrogance as the United States ...
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 10 October 2016 22: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Siegen
      The analogy with Crimea is visible to everyone except Europe.
      Historical examples of Europe are not a decree.
      The same arrogance as the United States ...

      It amazes and annoys me that the whole world is believed that in the case of Crimea annexation occurred, and not voluntary entry into Russia! After all, there is a clear definition of annexation as armed capture! But what a capture, when there was no blood or sacrifice.
      I would compare this situation with, for example, when a man who loves one another is suddenly called a rapist. A man and a woman prove to everyone that they have love, but the surrounding goodies stubbornly insist that the man is a rapist!
      Germany has the most ugly position on this issue! It would seem that a united Germany should, in the grave of life, be grateful to Russia for such a cadre, but it apparently has a very short memory.
  20. alex-cn
    alex-cn 10 October 2016 16: 12 New
    +3
    pay 32 million euros a year to insult you? What for?
    The entire PACE budget is 180 million ... but they want to eat ....
  21. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 10 October 2016 16: 12 New
    +3
    I suggest leaving the remains of Ukraine Ukraine. Let them eat themselves up and finish off. . We will not be brothers. and we will not restore the tour without visas and complete poverty, which was destroyed by the pan-heads for an ephemeral dream. Yes, they would go ...
  22. Alex Xorkam
    Alex Xorkam 10 October 2016 16: 23 New
    +3
    If the head of PACE understood what territorial integrity is, as well as what is the right to self-determination, then it would be possible to return to PACE. Returning to an organization with such an incompetent chairman is not solid.
  23. absaz
    absaz 10 October 2016 16: 26 New
    +4
    Yes, we don’t need the PACE-passed stage. They need it to continue to put pressure on Russia. They need Russian money, but our representatives are like toys for beating.
  24. tomcat117
    tomcat117 10 October 2016 16: 29 New
    +4
    Yugoslavia itself? and with whom did she decide to change her borders, and by the way, where did she go?
  25. potapych
    potapych 10 October 2016 16: 29 New
    +3
    it’s unnecessary for us to have a bunch of elite piderasts.
  26. vladimirw
    vladimirw 10 October 2016 16: 32 New
    +2
    Nothing to do there, and don’t pay dues!
  27. Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 10 October 2016 16: 34 New
    +2
    There is only one way for the pass: by three Soviet letters))
  28. Kelwin
    Kelwin 10 October 2016 16: 39 New
    +2
    It is not clear what needs to be done to make it clear to European politicians - the credit of patience has been exhausted. In general, it's just some kind of sur, it got to the point that you don't know whether to be indignant, or to laugh like a horse). Maybe Pedre by "mistake" to break through the elk, right now it seems like "diplomacy" is done. ...
  29. wandlitz
    wandlitz 10 October 2016 16: 46 New
    +1
    While all kinds of Pedro are at the head of international organizations such as PACE, it’s too early to return to them ...
  30. pimen
    pimen 10 October 2016 16: 51 New
    +1
    in principle, it does not make sense to participate in multilateral formats. The UN is even more than enough
  31. Demeter
    Demeter 10 October 2016 16: 54 New
    +2
    Russia should leave PACE and stop paying membership fees for membership in this Russophobic organization, in which Russia’s opinion does not interest anyone, and they want to see Russia only as an extras.
  32. orado
    orado 10 October 2016 16: 55 New
    0
    Return offer "on the road"
  33. prior
    prior 10 October 2016 17: 09 New
    +6
    Crimea recognize Russian!
    Scythian gold - return to the museums of Crimea!
    To recognize the "revolution of guiding" - a coup d'etat!
    Return the penalty during the absence of the Russian delegation to PACE with interest!
    And the right of the chairman for 3 years!
    Only under such conditions will Russia consider your proposals, dear gentlemen apiaries.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 October 2016 22: 12 New
      0
      Multipolar World! A couple of deadlines in compensation.
  34. win
    win 10 October 2016 17: 16 New
    +4
    And for some reason Pedro does not remember the "territorial integrity" of his native Spain ...
    Century-old dispute with England over ownership of the Isthmus of Gibraltar ...
    And the dispute between the north of Spain and the south-west of France?
    How are Basques feeling?
  35. private person
    private person 10 October 2016 17: 23 New
    +1
    Russian dough is not enough. Russia will regularly pay dues, but nobody will listen to it. Hence the question, Why do we need this PACE? Feed your parasites and your European.
  36. masiya
    masiya 10 October 2016 17: 23 New
    +3
    While we are not there, we have lost something, in my opinion - no. So let them go "through the forest" wherever they want and with whom they want, let them look and lick into America's mouth and in another place ...
  37. nikkon09
    nikkon09 10 October 2016 17: 27 New
    0
    Scientists already, they won’t just call them that, they won’t give us a nod. Yes, and for a quarter of a century our elite didn’t even equal them. After all, our country is rich in everything, but we dispose of wealth by European order.
  38. V.ic
    V.ic 10 October 2016 17: 34 New
    +3
    The borders of states may not be changed by force, but on the basis of bilateral agreements.

    Czechoslovakia was not even invited to Munich in 1938, they played a game "for three". This is probably not known to Entom Pedre-ill. The same EG-shnik, like our younger generations. No, she died, so the vile office died. Once again, trusting the regular amerikosov anus lickers is not respecting yourself!
  39. OLD FART
    OLD FART 10 October 2016 17: 40 New
    +2
    It’s boring for them to see without Russia ...)))) But we are fine without you, we are working ...
  40. gg.na
    gg.na 10 October 2016 17: 47 New
    +1
    PACE head calls on Russian delegation to return "to start dialogue"

    Hmmmmmmmmm what Do we need it request ??! One must think, however, before turning around.
  41. Kerry
    Kerry 10 October 2016 18: 04 New
    +1
    Mr. Agramunt knows what direction he needs to go?
  42. semuil
    semuil 10 October 2016 18: 10 New
    +1
    So let them listen to Ukraine alone until they’re bored. Yes, they’re tired of it. They want to rebuild their attacks on Russia, the freshman also wanted money, otherwise this bunch begins to lose the meaning of their existence.
  43. razved
    razved 10 October 2016 18: 20 New
    0
    For what dialogue? Return conditions are known, so what else to talk about.
  44. Berg berg
    Berg berg 10 October 2016 18: 30 New
    +1
    Refund only on Russian conditions, with a complete apology and the right to vote!
  45. Felix
    Felix 10 October 2016 18: 38 New
    +4
    So, for PACE, it will prepare the corresponding ultimatum, directly verbatim, with the words of this Agramunt. So as soon as Europe returns to the borders of 1989, the penguins will clean up together with their bases west of Berlin, and Merkel will again enter the Komsomol - then. May be.
  46. Felix
    Felix 10 October 2016 18: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Felix
    It means for PACE to prepare the corresponding ultimatum, directly verbatim, with the words of this Agramunt. So as soon as Europe returns to the borders of 1989, the penguins will clean up together with their bases west of Berlin, and Merkel will again enter the Komsomol - then. May be.
  47. cheburator
    cheburator 10 October 2016 18: 39 New
    +1
    Pase needs our grandmothers and ears for hanging noodles. They will teach us "mind to mind", and we must pretend that everything is as it should be. don pedro you are wrong! negative
  48. PValery53
    PValery53 10 October 2016 18: 40 New
    +1
    But what did this Agramunt modestly leave out the "accidental" annexation of the Kosovo region from sovereign Serbia? - What, is he crazy? - Somehow obscene crap right in front of everyone.
    (Shame on the moderators! - "Who are the judges? - For the antiquity of years, - Their enmity is irreconcilable to the Freedom of Life. - Judgments are drawn from forgotten newspapers - the times of Ochakov and the conquest of Crimea!")
  49. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 10 October 2016 18: 41 New
    +1
    "The situation when Russia is absent from the assembly is not good for anyone - neither Russia, nor the assembly, nor any of the other 46 countries."
    Or maybe he is worried that this PACE will not be needed without Russia at all !? Brussels and without PACE "perfectly" rules Europe. lol
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  50. 1536
    1536 10 October 2016 19: 01 New
    +1
    Yeah, schaz! Expand discussions on the Crimea, Donbass, Syria, about all sorts of other all kinds. Do we need it? No. So, as before, only unconditional surrender. We will take prisoners at the Brandenburg Gate. We guarantee life to everyone!