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Sergey Kapitsa: How Russia is turned into a country of fools

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The words from the title were said by Sergey Petrovich back in 2009 year, in an interview with the newspaper AIF. The theme of the spiritual, cultural and moral degradation of generations in Russia was especially close to him. The son of the Nobel Prize winner Pyotr Leonidovich Kapitsa, a Soviet and Russian physicist and enlightener Sergei Petrovich Kapitsa for most of us needs no introduction.


Sergey Kapitsa: How Russia is turned into a country of fools

Sergey Petrovich Kapitsa.

But back to the words of Sergei Petrovich, he said in 2009 year, because they turned out to be prophetic. 2016 is the year of the year, and the generation of modern youth still reads less and less Russian classics, no longer clearly writes, ink, pens, books were replaced by gadgets and mobile applications. The generation of mobile and self-confident, informed and pseudo-progressive people, with their heads gone into the digitized world, easily replaced the real one, where there is no place for feelings and emotions.

Sergei Petrovich repeatedly shared his thoughts about the modern generation, and also often explained the difference between the generations.

We have collected the most important, in our opinion, excerpts from an interview with great thinker Sergei Petrovich Kapitsa and try to understand whether something has changed from 2009 to 2016 a year?

Background: In 2009, the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) conducted research that the authorities did not notice. And in vain. Their results are such that at least two ministries - culture and education - need to press all the “panic buttons” and collect emergency cabinet meetings. Because, according to polls VTsIOM, 35% of Russians DO NOT READ A BOOK AT ALL! But Russia, according to the speeches of the President and the Prime Minister, took the path to innovative development. But what innovations, scientific breakthroughs, the development of nanotechnology, etc., can we talk about if more than a third of the country's population has never picked up a book in their hands in a year? In this regard, in the 2009 year, the AMF newspaper interviewed Professor S.P. Kapitsa a short but detailed interview.

Here are excerpts from this interview:

“Russia is being turned into a country of fools”

“The VTsIOM data show that we finally came to the point that all these 15 years were striving for,” brought up the country of idiots. If Russia will continue to move along the same course, then in another ten years there will be no those who today at least occasionally take up a book. And we get a country that will be easier to rule, which will be easier to suck the natural resources. But there is no future for this country! These are the words I uttered five years ago at a government meeting. Time passes, and the processes that lead to the degradation of the nation, no one even tries to understand and suspend.

We have a complete breakdown of words and deeds. Everyone talks about innovation, but nothing is done to get these slogans started. And the explanations “I work so much. When should I also read? ”Cannot serve as an excuse. Believe me, our generation worked no less, but there was always time for reading. And the labor productivity in the society several decades ago was higher than now.

Today, almost half of able-bodied young people work in security organizations! It turns out that all these young guys are stupid, limited people who can only beat their faces? ”

Why should a man read?

“You ask why a person should read at all. Again, I’ll give an example: human and monkey organisms are very close in all their characteristics. But monkeys do not read, but a person reads books. Culture and mind - this is the main difference between a man and a monkey. And reason is based on the exchange of information and language. And the greatest information sharing tool is the book.

Earlier, starting from the time of Homer, there was an oral tradition: people sat and listened to the elders, who in artistic form, through the legends and legends of past eras, passed on the experience and knowledge accumulated by the generation. Then a letter arose and with it a reading. The tradition of oral tale has faded away, and now the tradition of reading is also fading. Take somehow and at least for the sake of curiosity look through the great correspondence.

Darwin's epistolary heritage, which is now being published, is 15 thousand letters. The correspondence of Leo Tolstoy also takes more than one volume. And what will remain after the current generation? Will their text messages be edited for posterity? ”

The role of the exam in education

“I have long proposed to change the criteria for admission to higher education. No exams are needed - let the applicant write a five-page essay in which he explains why he wants to enter a particular department. The ability to correctly express their thoughts, the essence of the problem demonstrates the intellectual baggage of a person, the level of his culture, the degree of development of consciousness.

And the USE, which is being used today, cannot provide an objective picture of a student’s knowledge. It is built only on the knowledge or ignorance of the facts. But the facts are not all! Does the Volga flow into the Caspian Sea? The answer to this question deserves not a tick in the appropriate box, but a separate serious conversation. Because millions of years ago, the Volga did not flow into the Caspian Sea, but into the Sea of ​​Azov, the geography of the Earth was different. And the question from a textbook turns into an interesting problem. To solve it, it is just that an understanding is needed, which is impossible to achieve without reading and education. ”

Feelings instead of minds

“... The question of losing interest in reading is the question of what is happening to people now. We rested at a very difficult moment in the development of mankind as a whole. The pace of development of technology today is very high. And our ability to comprehend all this and reasonably in this technical and information environment to live from these rates lags behind. The world is now experiencing a very deep cultural crisis. So the situation in our country is quite typical for the rest of the world - in America and in England too little is read. Yes, and such a large literature that existed in the world of 30-40 years ago, today is no longer there. Now it is very difficult to find the rulers of the minds at all. Perhaps because no one needs minds - sensations are needed.

Today we do not need to change attitudes towards reading, but radically change attitudes towards culture as a whole. The Ministry of Culture should be the most important of all ministries. And the primary task is to stop subordinating the culture of commerce.

Money is not the goal of the existence of society, but only a means to achieve certain goals.

You can have an army whose soldiers will valiantly fight without demanding rewards, because they believe in the ideals of the state. And you can have the service of mercenaries, who with equal pleasure will kill both their own and others for the same money. But they will be different armies!

And in science, breakthroughs are made not for money, but for interest. Such a feline interest! And with the big art is the same. Masterpieces for money are not born. If everything is subordinated to money, then everything will remain with money, they will turn into neither a masterpiece nor a discovery.

In order for the children to start reading again, an appropriate cultural setting should be formed in the country. What defines culture now? Once the Church was setting the tone. On a day off, people went to the temple and instead of watching TV, they looked at murals, icons, and stained glass windows - at the illustration of life in images. Great masters worked on the order of the Church, a great tradition consecrated it all.

Today, people go to church much less, and a generalized picture of life is given by television. But no great tradition, no art here. Nothing but massacre and shooting, you will not find there. Television is engaged in the decomposition of people's consciousness. In my opinion, this is a criminal organization subordinated to antisocial interests. There is only one call from the screen: “Enrich yourself by any means - theft, violence, deception!”

The issue of cultural development is a question of the future of the country. The state will not be able to exist if it does not rely on culture. And it cannot only strengthen its position in the world with money or military force. How can we attract our former republics today? Only culture! In the era of the USSR, they existed perfectly within our culture. Compare the level of development of Afghanistan and the republics of Central Asia - the difference is huge! And now all these countries have dropped out of our cultural space. And, in my opinion, the most important task now is to return them to this space again.

In France, there is the Ministry of Francophonie, which promotes the cultural policy of France in the world. In England, the British Council is considered a non-governmental organization, but in fact it has a clear policy for the spread of English culture, and through it - global English influence in the world. So, cultural issues are intertwined with the issues of politics and national security of the country. This essential element of influence cannot be neglected. In the modern world, science and art, rather than resources and productive forces, determine the power and future of the country.

At one of his last meetings with the audience, Sergei Petrovich admitted:

“20 years ago, it seemed to me that the main problem on our planet was the problem of the world, because we were armed to the teeth, and it is unknown where this military force could lead us. Now, it seems to me, we need to turn to the very essence of our being - to the growth of the population, to the growth of culture, to the goals of our life. The world, and not only our country, is experiencing a profound change in its development; neither politicians, nor most people understand this. Why does this fracture occur, what is it connected with, how to influence it, how to react? Now people need to understand this, because before you act, you need to understand. When I understand, I will definitely tell you.

Now do we understand ourselves, without him?

Sergey Petrovich Kapitsa was an outstanding personality. He belonged to the category of people changing this world for the better. Wise, ingenious people want to listen for days, listen to their life experiences, judgments, thoughts, inspired by ideas to introduce the best in their lives - such people will not advise the bad, they will not teach the bad. Sergey Petrovich lived a long, rich life, died in Moscow on August 14 2012, at the age of 84.
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  1. Danil Laryon
    Danil Laryon 23 September 2016 15: 13
    +16
    Oh, we are dumb, we are degrading, a stupid person doesn’t need anything at all, it reminds me of the Russian Empire. negative
    1. Velizariy
      Velizariy 23 September 2016 15: 21
      +6
      Quote: Danil Larionov
      Oh dumb we are degrading

      Well, then everything is clear with you ...)
      1. Danil Laryon
        Danil Laryon 23 September 2016 15: 49
        +19
        In general, I wanted to convey my idea in such a way that the authorities deliberately stupid us so that we would not be indignant and not rage.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 24 September 2016 04: 51
          +5
          Danila

          Enlightenment?

          Liberal ideology - grows selfishness. Egoists do not need much. They need a little more than yours.
          But you will not achieve progress, because one in the field is not a warrior. Hence the regression.
          Findings. Liberals are a decline.

          Another third generation of liberals and Soviet ideology will not be able to revive the progressive generation.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 24 September 2016 18: 00
            +1
            power deliberately stuns us

            Everyone is to blame, but not ourselves. Well settled!
            1. derik1970
              derik1970 26 September 2016 12: 38
              +1
              I read the first comment and then the following ... You, somewhere nearby, do not rewrite comments from each other? The impression that you are sitting together at a nearby table and savor the words of those who just shared from the heart ... stop writing off ... And this happens in many topics on this site ...
            2. Lem
              Lem 21 December 2016 15: 07
              0
              Quote: Mahmut
              Everyone is to blame, but not ourselves. Well settled!

              Damn, ... I already painted the bench and the fence, too, but on TV and the podium there are still the same faces, and all the same Makhmutki urge me to paint, but the next bench ... oha.
          2. derik1970
            derik1970 26 September 2016 12: 42
            0
            Danila, I wrote everything clearly, but you understood what you wrote ... "Who thinks clearly, expresses it clearly" ... about many of you this is not about you ... apparently you really read a little, well, except for newspaper headlines. ..
          3. Rav Ltd
            Rav Ltd 8 November 2016 13: 36
            0
            In your opinion: those who received education under the Soviet regime now criticize the Soviet regime and prophesy that the Soviet ideology will not revive the progressive generation? And they themselves are progressive.
      2. Homo
        Homo 23 September 2016 18: 34
        +7
        Quote: Velizariy
        Well, then everything is clear with you ...)

        Yes, and with you too ...!
    2. ban1410
      ban1410 23 September 2016 15: 23
      +19
      Yeah, if the Russian Empire reminds you of stupidity and degradation, you are definitely dumb ... and degrading ...
      1. Danil Laryon
        Danil Laryon 23 September 2016 15: 38
        +7
        I mean the illiterate population of dark peasants living as if in the Middle Ages, laying on all but their garden,
        1. user3970
          user3970 29 September 2016 09: 12
          +1
          But some of the "clever people sitting in VO will be able to solve in their mind the problem that the peasant children were solving?
          1. gm9019
            gm9019 29 September 2016 13: 01
            +1
            How many of them were there in schools, peasant children, if there was general illiteracy?

            I immediately remember my grandmother: I unlearned for two years, and then my mother said to her: "Stop studying, sit down to spin! Otherwise people will have canvases, and you will have tails!" And that's how her education ended.
            1. murriou
              murriou 30 September 2016 13: 04
              +1
              Let's be honest - not completely universal. Among peasant women in the Republic of Ingushetia, for example, only slightly more than 90% were illiterate, this is 86% of the peasantry lol

              One can also recall the figure beloved by the bakers: in 1913, 78% of recruits recruits were considered literate.

              And a few notes on this figure:
              1. At the same time, those who knew how to read and write at least something, at least sign / read their surname were considered "literate". The remaining 22% did not know how to do this either.

              2. Recruits in 1913 were voluntary, i.e. it is the youngest, most active and developed part of the peasantry.
              When WWI began and everyone began to row into recruits, even such "literate" ones turned out to be twice as few.
              And according to the census of 1897, there were as many as 21% literate in the Republic of Ingushetia.

              3. This "literacy" is grade 1 teaching.
              Among the pre-revolutionary Russian children who started their education in the 1st grade, a little over 3% in the city graduated from the 10rd grade, even less than 10% in the village.
          2. Outsider V.
            Outsider V. 29 September 2016 17: 40
            0
            Um, I decided in my mind, I suffered for about 5 minutes. Answer: 2.
        2. Outsider V.
          Outsider V. 29 September 2016 17: 45
          +1
          Quote: Danil Larionov
          I mean the illiterate population of dark peasants living as if in the Middleиcow, laying on all but his garden,

          After reading about "Srednevиkovye ", for some reason I thought that illiteracy is really widespread, and not only among the dark peasants ...
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 23 September 2016 15: 48
        +24
        Yeah, if the Russian Empire reminds you of stupidity and degradation, you are definitely dumb ... and degrading ...
        ------------------------------
        Did you live in those days? Do you know exactly how it was? Or, to be more exact, they are flooded with the propaganda of "great tsarist Russia", which is hung up day after day with thick noodles, plentifully poured with molasses of their zombie screens, interspersed with the "crunch of a French roll" and golden epaulets "of the saviors of the state in the person of the Denikin Kolchaks.
        The truth is harsher and dirtier. 90% of the country's population was made up of the peasantry, the overwhelming majority of which were stupid, dumb and illiterate cattle driven by "enlightened", but essentially the same cattle. Or did aliens from outer space crap in vases of the Ming era in the Winter Palace?
        The layer of the cultural layer in the country was, but the thickness was no more than the peel on the tomato, and when the tomato finally rotted, the peel cracked, sprawled in an instant.
        Read Saltykov-Shchedrin. I do not recommend Dostoevsky; serious mental disorder may follow.
        1. Danil Laryon
          Danil Laryon 23 September 2016 16: 06
          +6
          Thank you nice people conveyed my thought drinks good
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 24 September 2016 18: 10
            +4
            90% of the country's population was made up of the peasantry, the overwhelming majority of which were stupid, dumb and illiterate cattle driven by "enlightened", but essentially the same cattle.

            And then from enlightened Europe two sealed trains, filled with bursting educators, were sent to us. "To pull up the hem of Mother Russia" - said one of them and poured the slops of proletkult on the heads of careless Russians. This is how you need to hate your people in order to write such nasty things about them.
            1. Burrer Wachter
              Burrer Wachter 28 September 2016 12: 26
              0
              But now 86 percent are in favor of managing the "enlightened". Progress
        2. kaban7
          kaban7 27 September 2016 16: 49
          0
          Would you recommend Herzen? Or Belinsky, at worst? Or did you live in those days?
          1. gm9019
            gm9019 29 September 2016 13: 08
            0
            and Herzen, and Belinsky, and our dear comrades Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Believe that, have you heard these names? Have you read? winked
      3. Homo
        Homo 23 September 2016 18: 35
        +6
        Quote: ban1410
        Yeah, if the Russian Empire reminds you of stupidity and degradation, you are definitely dumb ... and degrading ...

        And do not tell me the percentage of literate people in Russia? And educated? A graduate? hi
        1. murriou
          murriou 30 September 2016 13: 23
          0
          This one will not tell you, something is so seen by me lol
    3. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 23 September 2016 15: 33
      +7
      And here is the Russian Empire ..... and in general what do you know about it?
      1. Danil Laryon
        Danil Laryon 23 September 2016 15: 43
        +3
        and you are overwhelmed, you do not scam, the population there was illiterate and now they want to make us tokimizhe, vegetables that do not need anything.
        1. Velizariy
          Velizariy 23 September 2016 16: 17
          +8
          Judging by your letters, they all succeed in encore!
          Well, as for the revolution, my great-grandfathers and grandmothers, who lived at that time, were very literate and there was no Middle Ages at all.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 September 2016 16: 19
            +3
            Quote: Velizariy
            Well, as for the revolution, my great-grandfathers and grandmothers who lived at that time were very literate. The Middle Ages were not there at all

            Well, even if not the Middle Ages, there was illiteracy and this is unfortunately a fact
          2. murriou
            murriou 30 September 2016 13: 28
            0
            Which ones will you be from? lol
            And is it so that in RI then there were 170+ million people, except for your personally ancestors? And according to them there is an extensive and extremely disappointing statistics for bakers, collected at the same time and officially published.

            Threat. special thanks for the pro-grandmother. Professional grandmothers, yes they are cool laughing
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 23 September 2016 16: 18
          +1
          We definitely do not need such "literate" ones as you.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 September 2016 16: 22
            +15
            it is a pity that the cons have been canceled, rudeness blooms
            1. AUL
              AUL 23 September 2016 17: 13
              +11
              and you are overwhelmed, you do not scam, the population there was illiterate and now they want to make us tokimizhe, vegetables that do not need anything.

              A man stands for literacy. There are 12 errors in the above quote.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 23 September 2016 17: 50
                +3
                poking at the same time all one is not permissible
                1. Burrer Wachter
                  Burrer Wachter 28 September 2016 12: 32
                  0
                  Since the site administration considers my text too short, I added these letters. And so "plus" in particular.
            2. OLD FART
              OLD FART 23 September 2016 17: 18
              +18
              What is it, world politics ... You read our site, you will get a heart attack! The whining is subtle, the heart beats with indignation! Then they will still be banned and laugh insolently at you ...
              There is a war to destroy our souls (especially our children and grandchildren) .. The West chose the right tactics ... Why fight with Russia? They will kill themselves, the main thing is to replace their spiritual values ​​and corrupt .. AND ALL! This is already valid ..
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 23 September 2016 18: 22
                +19
                You know, I have been reading articles on the site for a long time - good articles ... I did not participate in discussions because of the "minuses" - I understand that often my opinion is cut, or something. with a massive ... And then a couple of months ago I noticed that the "cons" were canceled! was delighted. Well, I think - democracy has reached a new level. Began communication. But I began to notice that sometimes the words "... deleted" appeared in discussions. It was then that it dawned on me - the minuses were removed, so that we COULD NOT put forward our opinion against the moderators. Now they can ban us in any scenario, and we won't even give them a "minus" ...
                1. region58
                  region58 24 September 2016 03: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  sometimes the words "... deleted" appeared in discussions

                  So they used to be. It happens that you delete it for some reason, or you break the site’s rules, then this is the moderator’s job.
                  I did not participate in the discussions because of the "minuses" - I understand that often my opinion is cut, or something. with massive ...

                  So maybe it’s worth expressing an opinion then, and there you look, maybe not a cut ...
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 24 September 2016 07: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  I did not participate in the discussions because of the "minuses" - I understand that often my opinion is cut, or something. with a massive ... And then a couple of months ago I noticed that the "cons" were canceled! was delighted. Well, I think - democracy has reached a new level.

                  that is, you will not defend your opinion, but if you do not agree with others, then keep silent ?!
                  to put it mildly nasty position
              2. Burrer Wachter
                Burrer Wachter 28 September 2016 12: 45
                0
                replace values? What kind? Are you actually for Nicholas II (like Poklonskaya) or for Stalin, or for Pugachev, or or or or? You would figure it out yourself, Sami. Inside the country. And so I am a "Bandera" and therefore immediately "enemy". And only because I live in Ivano-Frankivsk. and, by the way, my neighbors with a truly "Bandera" surname Vasiliva, as they lived and live and will live here. Hopefully without your "liberating" the oppressed
            3. gm9019
              gm9019 29 September 2016 13: 11
              +1
              yes, somehow with the new design everything began to change quietly, including the setting. For the worse, change. And especially unpleasant is the exchange of replicas in the "bazaar" style (you! - yourself!)
            4. murriou
              murriou 30 September 2016 13: 32
              0
              Well, what other arguments can the crushers have? A couple of "facts", usually pretty distorted, which they tell each other in a circle laughing - and if this does not affect more literate people in history, then one rudeness remains.
        3. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 23 September 2016 21: 29
          +4
          Quote: Danil Larionov
          and you are overwhelmed, you do not scam, the population there was illiterate and now they want to make us tokimizhe, vegetables that do not need anything.


          Verses, of course, are literacy. Hope this is humor.
        4. Soviet Union
          Soviet Union 23 September 2016 22: 09
          +3
          [quote] [/ quote] everything is correct, because stupid and illiterate person easier to exploit
    4. Soviet Union
      Soviet Union 23 September 2016 22: 10
      +2
      Quote: Danil Larionov
      dumb we are degrading

      so real affairs of a real party smile
    5. larand
      larand 26 September 2016 16: 56
      +5
      I don’t know about the empire, I didn’t live. But in comparison with the USSR, schools, lyceums, gymnasiums in the Russian Federation train not just fools, but nonhumans. Opposite the house is an environmental lyceum. These are not schoolchildren, these are evil animals that are already smoked, drunk, and sexually friendly by the 6th-7th grade. The majority of knowledge has zero, and malice and hatred as cannibals. This is the terrible future of the Russian Federation.
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 28 September 2016 13: 34
      +1
      The question, of course, is interesting. Can forum users repeat the title of the article according to the rules of the site? Or are we getting dull or are we being bullied, and where are the Russian language taken out of general use and loss of meaning?
  2. uskrabut
    uskrabut 23 September 2016 15: 39
    +30
    "No exams are needed - let the applicant write a five-page essay in which he explains why he wants to enter this or that faculty."
    "The Ministry of Culture should become the most important of all ministries. And the first priority is to stop subordinating culture to commerce."
    "Television is engaged in the decomposition of the consciousness of people. In my opinion, this is a criminal organization subordinated to antisocial interests."
    "So cultural issues today are intertwined with political and national security issues."
    "we need to turn to the very essence of our being - to the growth of population, to the growth of culture, to the goals of our life."

    Great person! Great thoughts! Ready to subscribe a thousand times under every word. Why does our government not want to consult with such people, do not use their developments and recommendations? And then they wonder why the country is in crisis, why the country is poor and the people in it are poor, why other nations are turning away from us, etc. etc.? You need to listen to your scientists, your thinkers, your writers, and all sorts of Soros and others like them to drive a filthy broom.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 25 September 2016 13: 14
      +9
      The whole trouble is that our current government does not need enlightened and thinking PERSONALITIES. They are dangerous to rulers.
      They need a resigned and obedient "gray mass" of consumers, which is much easier to manipulate than individuals.
      Based on this, the policy in the field of education and the media is being built, and the notorious Unified State Exam is just an instrument of "fooling", nothing more.
      And the result is "obvious" ... the last elections to the Duma.
      In which country is a party that does nothing in the interests of tens of millions of people, where almost 20% of the population is below the "poverty line", prices are growing "by leaps and bounds," and wages are growing only among top-level officials, "wins for a clear advantage"? ??
      1. michajlo
        michajlo 29 September 2016 01: 51
        +2
        Hello Alexey!

        I completely agree with your assessment of the words of Kapitsa, the article and your conclusions.

        Moreover, the collapse of Soviet education is not an accident and oversight or indifference of the president,
        Premiere, ministers and other management cabinet trash!

        The current catastrophic state of secondary and higher education is a natural consequence of the purposeful, deeply calculated and constantly monitored activities of the country's top leadership to cover the general population
        (with the exception of the highest new caste of children and grandchildren in power and the super-rich,
        who can pay for a quality education).


        How disrespectful it sounds from me personally to the "Guarantor with his high rating" of popularity and nationwide support, but this is a fact!

        Perceive GDP itself for the "stupid leader of a big country", "not-informed" and "blindly believing in the cheerful reports of the prime minister and ministers" - I personally cannot!

        In my personal opinion, the PRESIDENT is a person who knows, is informed and calculates words and actions for many moves ahead.

        Therefore, I came to such an unpleasant conclusion for the patriots about the real anti-people course of the top leadership of Russia!
        Moreover, after 40 years, I know for sure that there are NO accidents in our life, we often simply do not see the relationship between the "present event" as a consequence of a CAUSE (an event that happened long before today's result) ...

        Against the backdrop of many years of continuing decline in the living standards of wide layers of the people, a constant increase in prices and prices, only in this 2016 year in Russia sales of expensive and very expensive cars have grown by 20% !?

        Whoever has a head will think why, with all the LONG words, appeals and assurances of the country's top leadership that "GOOD well-being of the common people is very important to him" - the result is completely different from what they write and say on the pages of the media and TV screens ...

        And I myself would like for the next 15-20 years in Russia to grow not only the standard of living and catch up with Germany,
        but so that the most important thing is that "the quality of life in RUSSIA",
        HAS DROPPED AND DRAGED THE SAME Germany
        with its order, cleanliness, law-abiding and self-esteem, and the pride of the Germans for their German power!
  3. Engineer
    Engineer 23 September 2016 15: 40
    +16
    A lot of controversial article. It may become less read than in the Union, but it is less paper books that are read less. I personally have not picked up a paper book for a very long time, but in my e-book I have a mini library of already read books. And here it’s not even a question of laziness of a shopping trip to a bookstore, but the prevalence of an outspoken city on them. It’s not a pity to remove a book from an electronic reader at all, but to throw away a paper one, even if the complete nonsense does not openly raise it - I have such an attitude to books from school, we were taught that way. The book as a source of knowledge is also debatable. So buy a book of some self-styled quack historian Fomenko and what knowledge do you get from it? I repeat - just the dominance of books with verbal diarrhea. Here the same notorious interne provides more opportunities for comparing facts. The same Soviet reader did not have such an opportunity. And now I read it - I doubted it, checked it on the Internet from various sources - I got the truth. About letters and sms - if Darin had the Internet on a computer or an iPhone - he would write sms, chatted with other scientists on Skype, etc. - can you imagine what Darwin could arrange online scientific conferences with broadcast to the whole world. But he couldn’t. But dunce with an iPhone, who communicates emoticons with their equally distant peers and at the time of Tolstoy could not write anything sensible in a letter, except for blunt faces. Therefore, pushing the brilliant people of the past and near modern times with their foreheads is simply illogical. So now an intelligent person is just a paradise for self-development with such opportunities for communication and access to information. But before that they brought to the library - then read it.
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 23 September 2016 15: 48
      +17
      Now there is no request for reading from the new generation, either on the Internet or through paper books. I had a chance to teach at a branch of one university (I will not call him). So my attitude to student work was very loyal, I did not deny the use of data from the Internet and other electronic sources. And, interestingly, even very advanced students brought work full of absolute nonsense only because they did not even bother to read the material found on the Internet.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 September 2016 16: 16
      +9
      Quote: Engineer
      but read less paper books

      doubtful, I think that, in principle, read less
      and the general level is really degrading, it used to be interesting to listen to the radio, but now it’s disgusting, even if the topic of the program is interesting, then the fools will make everyone laugh and vulgar
      pay attention when they show good documentary - after midnight and who watches it? !!!!
      leading one of the largest radio stations calmly declares that only 6 million live in Russia and continues to work
      the films are solid bloopers, most are filmed according to Hollywood patterns, etc. etc.
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 23 September 2016 16: 17
      +18
      Thinking of people like Kapitsa is voluminous. Answering him linearly means simply not understanding him.
      Quote: Engineer
      It may become less read than in the Union, but it is less paper books that are read less.

      Kapitsa, as he used to, touched on not one problem, but the whole complex. Therefore, you do not understand him at all. The question "read-not read" arises in childhood. And then the selection takes place. For your child to start reading BOOKS, you need a library. The screen of the gadget will not work for anything. Never. The text of social networks will be read from the screen, and on everything that has more than three paragraphs, your child will sculpt a comment - "a lot of text!". Instead of reading.
      The process that results in the triggering of human thinking, and not just the mastery of keypads or touch screens, this process is complex, difficult and ambiguous. We managed to improve it by releasing such books, and placing such texts in them, as it was not long ago. By launching the supposedly "world knowledge base", we achieved a drop in the intellectual level with a stake down, as if we had plunged into the abyss. Not alarming?
      1. vvv-73
        vvv-73 27 September 2016 22: 25
        0
        Actually, what is needed is not a book as such, but information. The book in this case is only the medium. And the carrier can be a computer, and a tablet, and an electronic reader, even an audio player can be. The whole question is in preferences. The main thing is that a person has a need for information. And for this you need a developed brain, the ability to think, analyze. This is what is instilled in childhood.
        1. user3970
          user3970 29 September 2016 17: 51
          0
          Purely subjective ... I read books from the monitor and in paper form. From the monitor - you really get tired.
    4. Soviet Union
      Soviet Union 23 September 2016 22: 14
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      The book as a source of knowledge is also controversial

      do not confuse the hell with a finger ... book of course, of course, strife ...
    5. region58
      region58 24 September 2016 04: 18
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      So now an intelligent person is just a paradise for self-development

      I absolutely agree. BUT. How to make a human child smart? How to make a person have an interest in knowledge? Someone from the ancient and wise said that the student is not a vessel that needs to be filled, but a torch that needs to be set on fire, but it is badly ignited when so much shit is pouring everywhere and there is no critical attitude to the information.
  4. GEV67
    GEV67 23 September 2016 15: 42
    +8
    Golden words, he said everything correctly, he always liked to watch his program - Obvious incredible.
    Oh, how many wonderful discoveries to us
    Prepare an enlightened spirit,
    And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
    And genius, friend paradoxes ...
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 23 September 2016 15: 49
      +3
      And Case, god inventor

      This was not broadcast from the screen, unfortunately
  5. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 September 2016 16: 03
    +16
    S.Kapitsa - Right! Right! and right again! Our education system was considered the best in the world, so why, in the will of the powerful half-educated people, we have ruined and forgotten Our education system that has been developed for decades and looked (like some kind of mongrel!) Into the eyes of the West, without thinking it over, without weighing all the pros and cons , began to copy the "Bologna knowledge assessment system"? It looks like the people who held the posts of ministers of culture and education, to put it mildly, did not know what they were doing, and if they knew and did (pushed) it consciously. Isn't it time to look at the problem from this perspective?
  6. tundra
    tundra 23 September 2016 16: 40
    +2
    Quote: guzik007
    The truth is harsher and dirtier. 90% of the country's population was made up of the peasantry, the overwhelming majority of which were stupid, dumb and illiterate cattle driven by "enlightened", but essentially the same cattle

    I watch you from hereditary, refined nobles,
    Well, teach the story of who saved and betrayed Russia when.
    But in an environment such as you, the percentage of cattle was much higher.
    And all the trash, at 17 you were released and released, it was you and your kind.
    Milk, by the way, in bags not on trees does not grow.
    An elite is then corrupt such as you have already created.
    That's right, Putin replied to Zhiriku, such as say yes do not speak.
  7. lexx2038
    lexx2038 23 September 2016 16: 50
    +6
    Souls need to be educated - souls. Academic knowledge is now much easier to obtain than in the pre-Internet era. I remember as a kid, I was recorded in all libraries in order to poke books on radio engineering and electronics there - there was a terrible shortage, whoever does it knows that such books are needed every day, especially with reference data.
    Now it’s good - eldorado in terms of information, and here it depends on the qualities of the soul which sites you will visit.
  8. cap
    cap 23 September 2016 17: 09
    +3

    Money is not the goal of society, but just a means of achieving certain goals
    .

    I COMPLETELY AGREE !!!
  9. eyvamin
    eyvamin 23 September 2016 17: 10
    0
    -ag, so I teach at Harvard because there are only smart
  10. vobels
    vobels 23 September 2016 17: 14
    +2
    ".. The issue of the development of culture is a question of the future of the country. The state cannot exist if it does not rely on culture .." And we forgot about it. Salvage in the first place, and more!
  11. esaul1950
    esaul1950 23 September 2016 17: 14
    +5
    Correctly said Kapitsa. Dumb people are easier to cheat and easier to manage.
  12. lecturer
    lecturer 23 September 2016 17: 33
    +6
    Think about these words from the article:
    Masterpieces for money are not born. If everything is subordinated to money, then everything will remain money, they will not turn into either a masterpiece or a discovery.
    ... It follows that all hard work is: teaching, reading and writing...
    I force my "listeners" to manually write term papers ....
    I am amazed at their clumsy letters - i.e. "underscore".
  13. masiya
    masiya 23 September 2016 17: 40
    +3
    He was a clever man, and his father was even wiser, sent Beria with his offer to work with Sakharov on a nuclear project, and only Stalin saved him - saying: "Lavrenty leave him alone, I will take him off the directors, but don't touch him ..." was the future Nobel laureate in disgrace for almost ten years ...
  14. vfqjh
    vfqjh 23 September 2016 17: 48
    +5
    How right he was ... Brainless herd is easier to manage. I do not think that the president is holding us for the herd, but the government is the question?
    1. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 23 September 2016 21: 05
      +5
      Quote: masiya
      . I do not think that the president is holding us for the herd, but the government is the question?

      And so in Russia from century to century - a good king, but the boyars are evil, they are hiding people's truth from the tsar-father?
  15. OLD FART
    OLD FART 23 September 2016 18: 03
    +17
    Russia has always been on its own .. And now especially! We can only be completely destroyed, but not brought to our knees ..! Even if only one village remains in the depths of the taiga, Russia will recover and take revenge .. Before, I didn’t really read Stalin, but the mustachioed was right and foresaw a lot ..
    1. Bloodsucker
      Bloodsucker 23 September 2016 21: 01
      +8
      In fact, the socialist countries did not have TIME to build socialism, for all of them were under siege from the moment of the appearance of the first such state - the USSR.
      Their forced response to aggression was the mobilization of everything: the economy, the army, the people. They simply were not allowed to quietly develop the elites of those countries that robbed the whole world to the core and therefore had significantly greater resources.
      But the time will come, and smart people will appreciate the experience of the USSR, Cuba, and the UK and bury the Blue World thieves once and for all.
      And anyway, you just don’t have to lie. Neither about the famine, nor about the horrors of North Korea, nor about Stalin, nor about the ideal USA.
      Just do not lie.
      And then everything falls into place. ”
      Z. Prilepin.
  16. Lumumba
    Lumumba 23 September 2016 18: 26
    +6
    Quote: Danil Larionov
    I have due to illiterate population of dark peasants living as if in the MiddleИkovya laying on all but his garden


    And yet who do not know how to spell the word correctly "Middle Ages"and not knowing when"In mind"is written together, and when it is written separately (here it is necessary separately). And also those who do not know how to place commas in a sentence (after the word" all "a comma is needed).

    The government is to blame for what you did three mistakes in one sentence? Three, Karl! And these people conduct "highly moral conversations" and lament about the "degradation of education." It was necessary to study at school, and not to kick the bald. And then "the government is to blame for making fools of us."
  17. Galleon
    Galleon 23 September 2016 18: 38
    +7
    They didn't even "whine" - they already - howled "how bad everything is!"
    In my childhood, television was black and white, it was easy and interesting to read. And now the temptations are above the head - the gadget revolution is working, and works to minimize and destroy mental processes. Therefore, I believe that the younger generation should turn to the book by any available good means.
    Here one character did not advise Dostoevsky to read - but I do. Here is one quote from it: "The more I love humanity, the more I hate each person individually" ... So please tell me those who say that everything is bad: do your children read? I will say for myself: mine - yes. So I teach: read and learn to think so that no one can deceive you. Read on because it's interesting. Read, because this way you will not be boring people with others, and most importantly - with yourself. Well, if they read yours, read mine, nothing is lost as long as thinking citizens are alive.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 23 September 2016 18: 59
      +8
      I remember when I was a child I went into the library and all my eyes ran wide ... We need to choose the most ...! He came home and that’s all, I don’t exist in this world ...))) Then I didn’t read (several years), it wasn’t before .. Now I’m reading electronic ones (there’s time between work ..) I like prose, the military, so close to life ... I'm leaving for binge! hi My parents and I have small libraries, but there I re-read everything that interests me ... Something happened to me again, to the wrong steppe)))) Sorry, men, I felt sorry again ... Memories, where you can get away from them .. .?
      1. masiya
        masiya 23 September 2016 20: 13
        0
        And in what years did you go to their library in the USSR there were not a few .... only there were no books you wanted !!
        1. OLD FART
          OLD FART 23 September 2016 21: 10
          +5
          Quote: masiya
          And in what years did you go to their library in the USSR there were not a few .... only there were no books you wanted !!

          For the kids there were ..! "Captain Grant's Children" thick book .. blue braid! The choice was not special there .. And the parents had a meeting of Dreiser, Shishkov (I love about Siberia), etc. , well, and the magazines "Roman-Gazeta" and periodicals .. Subscribed in batches! Now hunger with reading ...
          And also my boss forbade me to listen to the news and watch the Internet news .. Padla! I sent him ... (in Russian, almost fought) ... But the subordination, damn it ... The computer removed from itself with the Internet (to another table ..)) Let him choke ... I'm reading books now, when there is a free "minute" ... It's much better than poking around in the trash heap ...! True, it is difficult to search for books, everywhere they demand money, but I find! I read a lot of anti-Soviet, Russian anti-Russian ...
          And yet I remained unconvinced ...! hi Just peasants wrote from the heart ... Something inspired, simple! drinks
  18. Tuzemets
    Tuzemets 23 September 2016 20: 23
    +2
    Old age from the USSR tends to blame the young.
    1. Bloodsucker
      Bloodsucker 23 September 2016 20: 35
      +13
      Worse when the young stupidity of the Russian Federation does not listen to the wise old man from the USSR.
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 23 September 2016 21: 35
      +7
      Quote: Tuzemets
      Old age from the USSR tends to blame the young.

      Why scold? And then, rather, not old age, but wisdom.
      I am 55 years old. Not an old man, but he saw a lot in life. And when I talk with young children about the USSR, then, believe me, they listen with interest. And they think.
    3. murriou
      murriou 30 September 2016 18: 47
      0
      But what about the creatures who are trying to declare the Soviet past as long past - but are offered to replace him even 75+ years earlier with a rotten and dead royal past?
  19. satelit24
    satelit24 23 September 2016 20: 55
    +1
    And the dyot is the one who allows himself to be made so!
  20. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 23 September 2016 21: 26
    0
    The culture of the XNUMXth century is no longer there, the culture of the XNUMXst century is not yet - hence the decline.
    1. satelit24
      satelit24 23 September 2016 22: 41
      +1
      There is no idiology, but without it the state cannot exist for a long time!
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      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 23 September 2016 23: 04
        +2
        Quote: satelit24
        There is no idiology ...

        - there is no idiology ... in nature, from the word "absolutely". And there is no such word
        - in the Russian Federation, according to the Constitution, "no ideology can be established as a state or mandatory"
        - this does not mean the lack of ideology as such, feel the difference fool

        Quote: satelit24
        ... and without it, the state cannot exist for a long time

        - tell it to Germans, British and other French wink
        - for reference: they also do not have an official, state, mandatory-for-all ideology.

        In short, do not smack nonsense ...
        1. satelit24
          satelit24 24 September 2016 23: 05
          0
          Idea - gives the desire to prove to everyone else that your development path is better! (unless of course you have something to be proud of)
        2. murriou
          murriou 30 September 2016 18: 49
          0
          idiology is, so to speak, the version for idiots lol
  21. tundra
    tundra 23 September 2016 21: 38
    +8
    Quote: STARPER
    .Need to choose the most ... ...! He came home and that’s it, I’m not in this world ...))

    And my grandmother drove me out into the street, to chase football with the boys, after I did the lessons, at that moment I remember reading the Mysterious Island, ZhV.
    And the books were so interesting, with footnotes, to decipher strange words
    While you read how much more useful information you will learn.
    Now, with a daughter and a grandson, we take away the tablet in turn,
    so that less stupid toys carried away.
    It seems here on the site I read,
    that there are technologies that the country does not share even with its closest allies.
    There are only those with allies.
    And there are those who simply impose everything on them, like colored beads, to the Indians, it’s like modern, gadgets, pah on them again. laughing .
    1. region58
      region58 24 September 2016 03: 35
      +3
      Quote: tundra
      read Mysterious Island

      It was the case of Jules Verne in turn read, and not only him. You come to the library, ask what you want to read, and they tell you: now the book is in your hands, then another turn has been taken, come about this number — you’ll take it. So ... True, all the time there was something no less interesting ...
  22. aba
    aba 23 September 2016 23: 48
    +3
    Quote: uskrabut
    No exams needed

    As a student in the 70s, I said that at least in a pedagogical and medical university should be taken by vocation according to the results of the interview. Here they take to the conservatory and art schools without exams in general subjects.
  23. GUSAR
    GUSAR 24 September 2016 00: 27
    +3
    And who needs smart, GDP only speaks, speaks, speaks and that’s all !!!
  24. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 24 September 2016 07: 09
    +2
    In France, there is a Ministry of Francophonie, which promotes the cultural policy of France in the world. In England, the British Council is considered a non-governmental organization, but in fact it pursues a clear policy of spreading English culture, and through it - global English influence in the world. So today cultural issues are intertwined with questions of the country's politics and national security.

    And so it is. Tell someone France, what will he say? Paris, Versailles, musketeers, cardinal, Bastille, wine. Tell England - ladies and gentlemen, Grand Fleet, queen.
    American influence begins with hamburgers and Pepsi, Chinese from its wall, although somewhere read that they had appropriated it to themselves. The Japanese take karate and samurai, etc.
    Unfortunately, we do not really pay attention to promoting our culture. When the stereotype of earflaps, balalaika and bears is broken, then we can talk about success in this direction.
    But we have what to show and what to tell.
  25. irokezer58
    irokezer58 25 September 2016 06: 47
    +2
    Sergey Kapitsa is an old, Soviet man. Yes, smart and educated, experienced and erudite, but Soviet to the core. He postulates Soviet strains about the structure of the state. It seems to him that the state everywhere and everywhere owes something to someone. But this is a Soviet error. In the USSR it was believed that quality education, abundantly flavored with populist ideology, combined with artificial Soviet culture, is the key to the development and prosperity of society. But after the USSR collapsed in 1991, the notorious highly intelligent and educated Soviet citizens suddenly disappeared somewhere, and instead of them, mafiosi and bandits, gopniks and murderers appeared, at the head of the country were limited stupid people who thought of such dogma and thesis that the hair on his head stood on end! And where did the vaunted cultural and educated people interestingly go? But the devil knows him.
    In this way, a quality education and a powerful culture did not save the country from collapse and degradation, and even, I would say, helped in this.
    That's the point. That quality education and culture is not a guarantee of the development of society.

    >>> If Russia continues to follow the same course, then in another ten years there will be no more of those who today at least occasionally pick up a book. And we will get a country that will be easier to rule, from which it will be easier to suck natural resources. <<
    What actually the power and achieves. Why should this ministry of education and the ministry of culture counteract this? They are just pushing it.

    >>> But this country has no future! <<
    I absolutely disagree. You do not need to go far for an example. The USA is a prime example of how a nation rules the world. 80% of Americans cannot show their hometown on the map, they think that on the planet earth is only one continent. Despite this, the United States is the most developed economy in the world, with the best industry and the strongest army in the world. Here you have the future of a stupid nation. The point is not in the level of education of the population, but in the professionalism of managers.

    >>> And the Unified State Exam, which is used today, cannot give an objective picture of a student's knowledge. It is built only on knowledge or ignorance of facts. But the facts are far from everything! Does the Volga flow into the Caspian Sea? The answer to this question deserves not a tick in the corresponding box, but a separate serious conversation. <<
    Not worth it. Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. This is an obvious and indisputable fact. Maybe this example is just not very successful? I do not know.

    >>> The world is now going through a very deep crisis in the field of culture. <<
    Not true. Rather, "Russia is now experiencing a very deep crisis in the sphere of culture." There is no need to drag the whole world here. There are no problems with culture in Europe and the USA. The culture of the USA penetrates even into the countries of Asia. People in Afghanistan now watch Hollywood movies and listen to American music. I don't think this is a sign of a crisis.

    >>> Money is not the goal of the existence of society, but only a means of achieving certain goals. <<
    So after all, people do not strive to earn money in order to stack them and look at them. Money is not for anyone the ultimate goal. The goal is material goods that can be bought with this money: for some, new jeans and a telephone, and for some, a personal island and a three-decked yacht.

    >>> Today people go to Church much less, and television gives a generalized picture of life. But there is no great tradition, no art here. You will not find anything but massacre and shooting there. Television deals with the decomposition of the consciousness of people. <<
    And in the classical works is there either massacre or shooting?

    >>> How can we attract our former republics today? Only culture! <<
    I do not agree. Only money. The republics of the USSR stayed together only at the expense of huge subsidies from their Moscow. Just like Chechnya is holding on now. And they always resisted our culture as best they could.

    >>> During the Soviet era, they perfectly existed within the framework of our culture. <<
    Forced.


    I would write a lot more, but no time. (((
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 25 September 2016 08: 33
      +5
      Quote: irokezer58
      but Soviet to the bone. He postulates Soviet strains about the structure of the state

      well, you postulate with "liberal" cliches
      Quote: irokezer58
      In the USSR, it was believed that quality education, abundantly flavored with populist ideology, combined with artificial Soviet culture, was the key to the development and prosperity of society

      apparently you are one of those "theorists" like Yavlinsky-Khakamada
      What is populist and even more so artificial in Soviet culture and ideology?
      Quote: irokezer58
      But after the USSR collapsed in 1991, the notorious highly intelligent and educated Soviet citizens suddenly disappeared somewhere, and instead of them, mafiosi and bandits, gopniks and murderers appeared, at the head of the country were limited stupid people who thought of such dogma and thesis that the hair on his head stood on end! And where did the vaunted cultural and educated people interestingly go? But the devil knows him.

      in ANY society, there are similar elements, another question is that they are constrained by the relevant structures, in the 90s this deterrent was artificially removed as a result of what happened, if in the United States we did something like that, then our 90s will seem like a kindergarten
      Quote: irokezer58
      And where did the vaunted cultural and educated people interestingly go?

      survived and most importantly - SURVIVED
      Quote: irokezer58
      That quality education and culture is not a guarantee of the development of society.

      stupidity, well, unless you consider that the main criterion for the development of society is to read parmesan
      Quote: irokezer58
      and the world's strongest army

      YES?!!!!!!
      VM give examples of how this strongest army kicks ass
      Quote: irokezer58
      No need to drag the whole world here. There are no problems with culture in Europe and the USA. US culture penetrates even Asian countries. Now in Afghanistan, people watch Hollywood movies and listen to American music. I do not think that this is a sign of crisis.

      the question is what is meant by the term culture "rembo" or "war and peace"
      Quote: irokezer58
      Money is not for anyone the ultimate goal. The goal is material goods that can be bought with this money: for some, new jeans and a telephone, and for some, a personal island and a three-decked yacht.

      vooot, here is the main thing you even thought about the alternative did not arise to put something not material your goal is "PARMESAN"
      Quote: irokezer58
      And in the classical works is there either massacre or shooting?

      there is, the question is, what is the main scuffle or dey
      Quote: irokezer58
      I do not agree. Only money. The republics of the USSR stayed together only at the expense of huge subsidies from their Moscow.

      how everything is neglected, excuse me, but how many children are you and have you been to the republics ?!


      p / s / the main mistake is that when comparing the two systems, the "theoreticians" prefer the American one on the basis that they defeated the USSR, but the mistake is that they did not win, but the Union lost
  26. SOLO52rus
    SOLO52rus 26 September 2016 21: 45
    +6
    Often in his infancy he watched his programs, as well as later (having matured) they were still leaving ... The smartest man, this generation will die out, write, they disappeared ...
  27. sogdianec
    sogdianec 29 September 2016 00: 53
    +1
    Quote: Danil Larionov
    I mean the illiterate population of dark peasants living as if in the Middle Ages, laying on all but their garden,


    Well, there was a "smart guy", but Russian - "great and mighty" was too tough to learn? "Ivan does not remember kinship" you do not know either your native language, not the history of your fatherland, and you dare to judge someone. You, sir, are ignorant !!!
  28. loaln
    loaln 29 September 2016 11: 48
    +3
    The role of the exam in education

    What Kapitsa noted is clear as God's day.
    Under capitalist relations, the voter needs a well-fed, satisfied, but dumb. And specialists are bought along with ideas and experience. It's amazing that so far in Russia talkers about the excellence of education in the United States are still active. Like someone in a pan.
    A little about the exam. In principle, a useful thing. There is something similar in the West. But there it is an additional tool, information for universities that are looking for good students. According to the rating of these exams, universities know whom to invite, and the applicant himself sees where it is useless to "meddle". According to their knowledge. But the school is A B T O N O M N A, and is not an appendage of this system !!!
    Why was it necessary to destroy our school and education in general? Wouldn't it be easier to build an additional breeding add-in?
    Answer - see the first article as in the military. We need not our own specialists, but a herd with university diplomas. Otherwise, you will not introduce grants to attract foreign scientists. And, therefore, "you can't warm your hands." Just!
  29. saltickov.
    saltickov. 29 September 2016 12: 00
    +1
    Until recently, I believed that you can still fix everything, redo everything, resume, but no late.
    1. gm9019
      gm9019 29 September 2016 12: 54
      0
      yes, it seems our train left ... ((
  30. gm9019
    gm9019 29 September 2016 12: 31
    +2
    Quote: Mahmut
    two sealed trains filled with burry illuminators


    And you can call the "bursting enlighteners" as you like, however, they turned the entire multimillion country over and raised it from its knees. And they began to fight against illiteracy, and build factories, and began to fight homelessness. Yes, there was a lot then and unacceptable for us today. But sticks out this is now, to once again confirm that there was "horror, horror, horror".

    And then, and not now there was a law on general secondary education, then, and not now, they brought up a person-creator, and not a "literate consumer", as the unforgettable Fursenko said. Then we flew into Space and became a powerful state, which everyone respected and feared, which we reckoned with, which we admired.
    What now? I recall the Schwarzenegger hero who came to the States and looked at his hotel room on TV when he said only one word with chagrin and hatred: capitalism. All.

    We want to sit on two chairs at once - and live under capitalism, and remain "creators". And the capitalists do not need creators.
    Netushki, gentlemen, comrades ... cutlets - separately, and flies - separately request
  31. sogdianec
    sogdianec 29 September 2016 13: 33
    +1
    Quote: gm9019

    We want to sit on two chairs at once - and live under capitalism, and remain "creators". And the capitalists do not need creators.
    request


    For the sake of a red word - you flog the rubbish. Creators, scientists, engineers, programmers, high-level specialists are much higher valued under decaying capitalism than ours, in Russia, with any social system. That under the tsar, that under the Soviet system, that in our time, talented scientists, inventors, engineers rarely got what they deserved, Maybe that's why capitalist America, Europe, Japan are so attracting our specialists from different fields of science and technology.
    1. Rav Ltd
      Rav Ltd 8 November 2016 13: 58
      0
      And I know people who are in need, but will never leave. And such examples are enough in the history of Russia.
  32. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 29 September 2016 14: 16
    0
    Quote: Burrer Wachter
    Hopefully without your "liberating" the oppressed

    Well, do not rely on this - you yourself have enslaved yourself, and free yourself! hi
  33. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 29 September 2016 14: 22
    +2
    Quote: sogdianec
    Creators, scientists, engineers, programmers, high-level specialists are much higher valued under decaying capitalism than ours, in Russia, with any social system. That under the tsar, that under the Soviet system, that in our time, talented scientists, inventors, engineers rarely got what they deserved, Maybe that's why capitalist America, Europe, Japan are so attracting our specialists from different fields of science and technology.

    So the main thing is why such a progressive system could not bring up its geniuses in sufficient quantities. Or maybe the whole thing is what purpose all these geniuses should serve, m. This goal does not justify itself and serves to fool its own people. So you have to lure other people's talents from countries not yet corrupted by these values. And what will happen when all countries get their values? hi
  34. gm9019
    gm9019 29 September 2016 21: 03
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    Quote: vvv-73
    what is needed is not a book as such, but information

    here is no problem to dig up any information in the network. And the Book ... the book teaches you to think, to empathize, I'm not talking about literate Russian, which now our youth speaks only "with the help of hands", tk. I can't find words. I came across in a new school when I was explaining that children do not know the usual words that I say, do not understand their meaning, do not perceive the content of long sentences. Best of all - the simplest everyday words and short sentences, without clauses, so they understand better. This is horror, comrades ...
    1. murriou
      murriou 30 September 2016 13: 48
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      Yeah. You start explaining something with concrete facts - they can’t take it beyond the first or second line, and even familiar words guess from the first lines.
  35. gm9019
    gm9019 29 September 2016 22: 53
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    Quote: sogdianec
    smash nonsense

    maybe it, of course, is nonsense. And you, my friend, are not trained in polite communication, apparently.
    So let's count how many "creators" are needed in relation to ordinary production workers? - Units. Inventors-innovators are not needed, because everything has already been invented by "specially trained people" and only qualified performers are needed. Which should be ten times more. Why teach them further if they are already good at twisting the nuts (for example).
    Some intelligent people have long ago said that "It is not the consciousness of people that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness."
    And once again I repeat: you can’t sit on one chair in two chairs - and live under capitalism with its vicious system of moral values, and dream of morality and universal and quality education for all.
    1. sogdianec
      sogdianec 30 September 2016 00: 44
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      I still separated the concepts of economics and morality. Well, under capitalism, there is no value system, neither good nor bad, no. If vices dominate in the country, in society, if the acquisition of material wealth is at the forefront. "so that we have everything and we have nothing for it.", "without a sucker and life is bad", "my house is on the edge - I don't know anything", then under any power, under any political system, the people will suffer from power bureaucrats, thieves, security officials and other small-town princelings. What do you want to say that this was not the case under Soviet rule? Maybe the root of evil is not in the socio-political system, but in the spiritual, moral guidelines of the people, society, people's choices, the supreme ruler.
  36. gm9019
    gm9019 29 September 2016 22: 57
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    Quote: Vlad5307
    Creators, scientists, engineers, programmers, high-level specialists are much higher valued under decaying capitalism than ours, in Russia,

    we just have them - more laughing And when our "kulibin" arrives even in the same States, they grab hold of it with both hands and money and don't let go back!
  37. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 08: 04
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    Quote: ban1410
    if the Russian Empire reminds you of stupidity and degradation, you are definitely dumb

    Yes, yes, yes, tell us about the great and enlightened Russia-which-we!
    You also keep secret about the real Russian empire of the early 20th century.
  38. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 08: 14
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    Quote: user3970
    But some of the "clever people sitting in VO will be able to solve in their mind the problem that the peasant children were solving?

    What's the problem? A challenge for elementary school. In what class do we introduce the concept of squared numbers?
    For an intelligent Soviet second-grader or ordinary third-grader it was enough to say that a square is when a number multiplies by itself, it will figure out everything else.

    Are you trying to convince us that for 11-12 years such a task is a direct achievement, but for today's adults it is not at all possible? Well, don't judge everyone by yourself.
    In Soviet schools, mat. olympiads were held starting from grade 5, this is just from 11-12 years. In the picture, the kids are probably the older ones basically.

    At those Olympiads, Soviet children of this age solved problems much more complicated. Including, part of the tasks deliberately went beyond the scope of the program - the ability to think outside the box. And it was MASSIVE in the USSR.
  39. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 12: 52
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    Quote: irokezer58
    Not worth it. Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. This is an obvious and indisputable fact.

    I sympathize. Kapitsa even explained to you why this question is not unambiguous, and you could name other reasons for the ambiguity - but you "did not master" even the ready answer to read. crying
  40. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 13: 14
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    Quote: Mahmut
    two sealed trains filled with burry enlighteners were sent to us

    Horror horror horror! People passed through Germany to Russia in the position of semi-prisoners (and this is what the status of "sealed cars" meant) - therefore, German agents! laughing

    And the fact that Kolchak took the oath of the British Empire, while being considered a Russian vice admiral (he then hanged the full admiral himself) is normal.
    The fact that Krasnov also served the Germans is normal.
    The fact that Wrangel arrived in Sevastopol on the British battleship, specially delivering him there is again normal for the Russian general.
    The fact that these and other leaders of the "white movement" received foreign military assistance and, at the same time, guidelines, and pledged to pay for this support with the sovereignty of Russia is, well, quite the right thing for you.
  41. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 13: 30
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    AUL, a person complains about the current education - and to see, he knows firsthand lol
  42. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 13: 39
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    Quote: irokezer58
    There are no problems with culture in Europe and the USA. US culture penetrates even Asian countries. Now in Afghanistan, people watch Hollywood movies and listen to American music.

    You know Europe from here, of course laughing - And stupid French, for example, already half a century ago began to sound the alarm that their national culture was briskly replaced by American ersatz culture, and the Germans discussed the same problems then, and still are.

    And most importantly, to confuse the mass culture of the American spill with a full-fledged culture - this is how to confuse sewers with a channel wink
  43. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 13: 51
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    Quote: uskrabut
    Why does our government not want to consult with such people, do not use their developments and recommendations?

    K.O. in a hurry to help: because the development of the people and the prosperity of the power are not included in the tasks of our government at all.
  44. prok
    prok 30 September 2016 14: 10
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    Comment on Kapitsa ?! It can only be supported. Our anti-people government, firstly, does not need "kapitsa", and, secondly, cultured literate people. This government needs silent, stupid people who would do the dirty work and do not ask questions. Kapitsa was also lucky that he did not live to see the final collapse of the RAS and the division of its property. Once I asked my friend what his children were doing. If at the moment, - he answered, - then they scratch their iPhones. So there can be no talk of any kind of literature, because then you have to THINK, and there is nothing to think about. Everything is concentrated in momentary action. But only!
  45. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 18: 54
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    Quote: irokezer58
    He postulates Soviet strains

    * sighing heavily * strains are bacteria, and you can postulate (that is, put forward as a postulate) something, not something. You brilliantly confirm the correctness of Kapitsa, trying to argue with him.

    And give up the current propaganda style of talking about the Soviet, as about something obviously bad. All that remains good for us is the miserable remnants of the not inherited and sold out Soviet legacy.
  46. irokezer58
    irokezer58 30 September 2016 19: 22
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    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    apparently you are one of those "theorists" like Yavlinsky-Khakamada

    No, you are wrong. I am far from one of those "theorists".

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    What is populist and even more so artificial in Soviet culture and ideology?

    Populist ideology - this means that the main dogmas and slogans appeal to the masses. If we look specifically at the USSR, then it happened that citizens from year to year received from the government the same populist promises that were designed for the uneducated beginning of the century. Soviet ideology was not built on the teachings of Marx, but on its populist part. The USSR took from this teaching a chapter on the inevitable victory of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie, but for some reason they forgot to take a chapter on the need to go the full path of development of society, including its capitalist phase. But the citizens of the USSR received too good an education to be so easily led by empty slogans of a century ago wrapped in a new wrapper. They knew how to think and analyze. Therefore, the populist ideology of the Soviet Union did not have a significant impact on citizens.

    Culture was artificial in the USSR because it was created artificially in the dungeons of the party apparatus, and not in the minds of the people. Cultural works were evaluated exclusively by the state apparatus. What the party liked and did not contradict the ideology was allowed to pass, and what did not like it was banned, and the creator was declared a dissident. If you don't believe me, then compare two masterpieces of cinematography: the Soviet science fiction film "Guest from the Future" and the American "Star Wars. A New Hope". The American film was made even earlier, but it is a thousand times better quality. Graphics, acting, music, and even just entertainment. Comparing these two films, in 1985 it was already possible to assign an unconditional victory to American culture over Soviet one. This was because American culture was created in a competitive environment where natural selection worked. And in the USSR, cultural works did not pass natural selection, so they had nothing to win the hearts of millions of viewers and readers for. Therefore, I called the culture of the USSR artificial.

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    in ANY society, there are similar elements, another question is that they are constrained by the relevant structures, in the 90s this deterrent was artificially removed as a result of what happened, if in the United States we did something like that, then our 90s will seem like a kindergarten

    I agree with you. But I didn’t mean that. I meant that the Soviet government made a number of mistakes that led to a catastrophic situation, despite the fact that education and culture in the USSR were at a fairly high level. Maybe I just didn’t put it right?

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    stupidity, well, unless you consider that the main criterion for the development of society is to read parmesan

    "The main criterion (I would rather use the word" indicator ") of the development of society" I consider not "Parmesan" but the all-round development and growth of industrial production. In this regard, the Americans used a more effective but less rapid strategy than the USSR. They applied the laws of nature to economics, namely "the laws of evolution and natural selection." Although these laws did not give immediate positive results and did not always go smoothly, in the end they defeated the Soviet planned system. The USA caught up with and significantly surpassed the USSR in this indicator. And their powerful culture is, rather, just a pleasant addition to the skillfully organized system of industry and finance, which significantly helps them now to exercise world hegemony.

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    YES?!!!!!!
    give you examples of how this powerful army kick ass

    Of course bring. It would be very interesting to read.

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    the question is what is meant by the term culture "rembo" or "war and peace"

    Actually, both are culture. Simply designed for different audiences. And why did you name it "Rimbaud"? Why not cite Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Titanic as examples? There are also writers in the United States on the level of Tolstov or Dostoevsky, just now almost nobody reads them. They are not popular.

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    vooot, here is the main thing you even thought about the alternative did not arise to put something not material your goal is "PARMESAN"

    I now describe not myself, but the average citizen of our planet. Of course, there are altruists and all sorts of other marginalized people, but their insignificant minority. Although, maybe they just do not come across to me. In general, I judge based on my experience with people. Even in the USSR, no matter how they tried to build a society free from consumer prejudice, nothing came of this. People all the same sought to get material values ​​by any means, and they wanted to spit on the fact that someone would not get it.

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    there is, the question is, what is the main scuffle or idea

    Why do you remember just scuffle? In Hollywood, what, do not make other films except with massacre?

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    sorry, how old are you and have you been to the republics ?!

    27 years. I have never been to republics. And even if it had been, would it have changed my point of view?

    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    p / s / the main mistake is that when comparing the two systems, the "theoreticians" prefer the American one on the basis that they defeated the USSR, but the mistake is that they did not win, but the Union lost

    I do not give preference to the American system. I believe that society is simply obliged to go through the stage of capitalism in order to understand what an abomination it is, to see its true face, to learn all the pros and cons and learn from this experience. Just as society went through the feudal stage, and slaveholding, and primitive. And in order to go further, you need to take from capitalism the best that it has, it is free competition, supplement it with a democratic system of society, a transparent election system, a transparent system of finance, a system of control over the education of people and build a new society free of greed and thirst for power. A society in which there will be no elected elite trying to crush people.
  47. irokezer58
    irokezer58 30 September 2016 19: 29
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    Quote: murriou
    Quote: irokezer58
    Not worth it. Volga flows into the Caspian Sea. This is an obvious and indisputable fact.

    I sympathize. Kapitsa even explained to you why this question is not unambiguous, and you could name other reasons for the ambiguity - but you "did not master" even the ready answer to read. crying

    No need to get personal. We are discussing Kapitsa's article here and not my intellectual abilities. The transition to personality never paints the interlocutor, does not contribute to the development of constructive dialogue and clarification of the truth.
    But the Volga used to flow into some other sea, and now it flows into the Caspian Sea. Try to refute this.
  48. irokezer58
    irokezer58 30 September 2016 19: 35
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    Quote: murriou
    Quote: irokezer58
    There are no problems with culture in Europe and the USA. US culture penetrates even Asian countries. Now in Afghanistan, people watch Hollywood movies and listen to American music.

    You know Europe from here, of course laughing - And stupid French, for example, already half a century ago began to sound the alarm that their national culture was briskly replaced by American ersatz culture, and the Germans discussed the same problems then, and still are.

    Perhaps the culture of the United States was stronger than the culture of Europe? Or is it still not? Or is it the machinations of the State Department?

    Quote: murriou
    And most importantly, to confuse the mass culture of the American spill with a full-fledged culture - this is how to confuse sewers with a channel wink

    Well, explain to me then, how does American culture differ from a full-fledged one? And why is American culture not full?
  49. irokezer58
    irokezer58 30 September 2016 19: 48
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    Quote: murriou
    * sighing heavily * strains are bacteria, and you can postulate (that is, put forward as a postulate) something, not something. You brilliantly confirm the correctness of Kapitsa, trying to argue with him.

    Thank you for correcting. But it’s not worth it to go personal. We are discussing Kapitsa's article here, not the level of my intelligence. Yes, Kapitsa is smarter than me. This is an indisputable fact. But this does not mean that he is a priori right in everything. I have given worthy arguments, despite the level of my literacy, and am ready to defend them.

    Quote: murriou
    And give up the current propaganda style of talking about the Soviet, as about something obviously bad. All that remains good for us is the miserable remnants of the not inherited and sold out Soviet legacy.

    I am not talking about the Soviet as bad. There were undoubtedly positive aspects in the USSR, but in my post I had to criticize the USSR for its minuses, which were not few. But I am also ready to talk about the positive aspects of the USSR.
  50. murriou
    murriou 30 September 2016 20: 12
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    Quote: irokezer58
    Culture was artificial in the USSR because it was created artificially in the dungeons of the party apparatus

    Yes Yes Yes! lol Why did Soviet cinema, prose and poetry still give us memorable examples of real art, and after the collapse of the USSR, all those "cultural figures" who complained about "Soviet torture chambers" were able to create only an abomination, empty at best, more often and lying?