Media: all Russian RSCs will be equipped with the latest 76-mm guns

The command of the Navy of the Russian Federation decided to equip all the interregional stations and missile boats with an automatic 76-mm AK-176MA gun, the accuracy of which, thanks to digital control, is not inferior to a sniper rifle, according to News with reference to the representative of the command fleet.

“The principal decision on the definition of the newest AK-176MA as the main artillery armament of all ships of the coastal zone, small rocket ships (MRK) and missile boats (RK) was taken this summer. For the time being, the Main Command of the Navy, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) and the Ministry of Industry and Trade are awaiting the completion of AK-176MA tests, after which the decision will be documented and signed by all interested parties. But we expect that all the formalities will be completed this year. At present, the artillery system has already become part of the armament of the IRAs of the 22800 Karakurt project, as well as the RoK of the 1241 project, ”said the source.

According to Alexander Milkovsky, Director General of Arsenal Design Bureau, the gun is in a high degree of readiness.

“AK-176MA is the development of the AK-176 family of rapid-fire guns, the first of which was put into service in the 1979 year. With a weight in 10 t, the latest gun mount is capable of launching at least 15 artillery shells at a target at a distance of 150 km in one minute. The main difference between the AK-176MA and its predecessors is the digital control system, as well as the latest optical-electronic station Sphere-2, which allows detecting targets at a distance of tens of kilometers during the day and night, in heavy rain and even storm, ” article.

"The horizontal and vertical AK-176MA actuators, which rotate the turret to the right and left, as well as lift the gun itself up and down, are equipped with a digital information transmission system, thanks to which the artillery unit, having received the command of the operator or the onboard information system of the ship, moves with very high accuracy . The combination of high ballistic characteristics of the newest ship cannon and an electronic control system ensures the AK-176MA full superiority over its closest competitor - the 76-mm artillery mount made by the Italian company Oto Melara, which is used on ships from more than two dozen countries of the world, ”said a source familiar with the technical characteristics of the gun .

“Currently, AK-176MA is undergoing testing aboard the Polar Star border guard 1, the lead ship of the 22100 Ocean project, which is to be handed over to the border control before the end of this year,” said military expert Vladimir Shcherbakov.

“The shooting has shown that the characteristics of the latest gun mounts are fully consistent with those specified in the tactical and technical requirements. On the "Polar Star" and its "sisterships" (serial ships of the same project) AK-176MA will stand in the classic dome-shaped tower installations, since the radar stealth is not so important for such ships. At the same time, on small rocket ships of the 22800 project, the AK-176MA will be performed in a special stealth tower with a large number of angles necessary to reflect electromagnetic waves, ”said a shipbuilding industry source.

Comments

[avt]

They will not make new 100s, but the old Soviet trunks will be taken from storage. Well, maybe it’s right for the speed of commissioning, but actually such a displacement of the device. Although, of course, the sotochka inspires more than anything.

[Alex_Rarog]

Yes damn just think about it! 150 rounds per minute! here nafig weaving is unnecessary! it will throw a plop many times more and with new explosives the damage will be no worse!

[avt]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

here nafig weaving is unnecessary! it will throw a plop many times more and with new explosives the damage will be no worse!

What are weaving with the same explosive ??

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Yes damn just think about it!

Exactly what, especially if you get confused with a guided projectile, what is easier to do - In a hundred, or 76? Here a hundred pounds - saving time and money, here they take what is, well, time-tested, and not do it from scratch at a factory that can be used to make barrels for something else. Moreover, yes, the loss is not so great and significant for this type.Practically these are air defense functions and a trifle to drive away, and not with "Zamvolt", butting in an artillery duel.

[Lord of the Sith]

As well as with the repurchase of the T-80 from South Korea. T-72B3 upgrade for a long time, T-90 is expensive, T-14 is still very small. Therefore, they redeem, and there are a lot of T-80s in storage.

[Darkmor]

Weaving would be better, like anti-ship artillery.
The same is used as an anti-aircraft gun with shells with a contactless fuse. They say that there are good chances to hit both aircraft and cruise missiles.

not inferior to a sniper rifle

Let's have less self-praise? ...

provides the AK-176MA with complete superiority over its closest competitor - the 76-mm gun mount of the Italian company Oto Melara

And why is the latest modification of our artillery system compared to the old NATO gun?
Compare then with super rapid - the one also has a rate of fire of 150 rounds per minute, selective ammunition, radio-guided projectiles, stealth technology. And, frankly speaking, I don’t see how it is inferior to our gun, but I see perfectly what it is superior to.

[Inok10]

Quote: avt

Although, of course, the sotochka inspires more than anything.

... someone like ... for RTOs and missiles with a displacement of 500-900 tons, drag 100k weighing 15 tons or 76k weighing 10 tons. There is a difference, and the BC is also somehow different, the 100k has 80 shots, 76th - 150 shots ... shot weight 100ki - 15,6 kg. 76th - 12,8 kg. ... range 100ki - 20 km. 76th - 16 km. ... so in my opinion the AK-176 is just perfect for RTOs and RK ...

Quote: Darkmor

And why is the latest modification of our artillery system compared to the old NATO gun?

... is this some kind of our latest AK-176M, or what? ... sample 1979? .... updated the SLAs and added index A ...

Quote: Darkmor

Compare then with super rapid

... let's compare ... AK-176 - 1979, super rapid - 1988 ... so who is newer? ...

Quote: Darkmor

150 rounds per minute rate of fire

... well, well, tell me why? ... by reducing the mass of the shot and the firing range:
...super rapid
range 8 km.,
shot weight 6,3 kg.
... AK-176
range -16 km.
shot weight - 12,8 kg.
... that is, with the same rate of fire of 150 v / m ... AK-176 shoots twice as far and a heavier shell ...

Quote: Darkmor

beam-guided projectiles

... there isn’t any radio beam control there ... there is a correction of firing from a ballistic radar control system ... well, these are different things ...

Quote: Darkmor

And, frankly speaking, I don’t see how it is inferior to our gun, but I see perfectly what it is superior to.

... yeah, we sorted it out above, range two times less, projectile two times lighter ... this is superiority ... well, if only "stealth" then this magic word provides complete superiority ... though on the high seas our AK-176 will make a colander from a super rapid carrier before it comes up to the shot range ...

[Darkmor]

super rapid - 1988 ... so who is newer?

Its latest version is the Strales Super Rapid (it was just designed for firing DART ammunition with adjustment) 2004.

ah, these are different things ...

We, for our artillery, have none of these things.

AK-176 shoots twice farther and with a heavier projectile ... bully

I would like to, but you are wrong in numbers:

shot weight 6,3 kg.

according to Meral:
cartridge weight 12.5 kilograms (28 lb)
shell weight 6.3 kilograms (14 pounds)
(need a translation?)
AK-176 - The mass of a unitary cartridge is 12,8 kg, the mass of anti-aircraft and high-explosive shells is 5,9 kg

...super rapid
range 8 km.,

Again - not true:
- HE (high explosive) - 6,296kg / Range 16km / effective range 8km (4km vs. air targets at elev. 85 °)
- MOM (multi-role OTO munition)
- PFF (pre-formed fragmentation) - anti-missile ammunition
- SAPOM (semi-armored piercing OTO munition) - 6,35kg / Range 16km
- SAPOMER (semi-armored piercing OTO munition, extended range) - Range 20km
- DART (driven ammunition reduced time of flight) - sub-caliber guided ammunition against multiple targets
(missiles and maneuvering targets at sea) 4,2kg in barrel / 3,5kg in flight / 660mm lenght / effective range> 8km
- VULCANO (76mm unguided and guided extended range ammunition) - under development

These guns are almost identical in all respects, except for the range of ammunition.

[Inok10]

... just don't cross a snake and three meters of barbed wire ... don't arrange a cocktail from the performance characteristics "Oto Melara Compact" and "Oto Melara Super Rapid" ... Bastion Karpenko is just to help: http: // bastion- karpenko.ru/oto-melara/ ... the shells are not unified, Super Rapid has its own IOM shells - 6,35 kg. (BB 0,345 kg.) And SAPOM - 6,3 kg. (BB 0.465 kg.) ... and a range of 8 km ... or a rate of fire or a range of ... 10-85 v / m at the Oto Melara Compact for a range of 16 km. or 150 in / m at "Oto Melara Super Rapid" at a distance of 8 km, and even different shells ...
... that you can’t say about AK -176:

Ammunition - standardized with a 76.2 mm twin AK-726. To destroy sea and coastal targets, shells with a fuse of shock action VG-67 are used. For anti-aircraft firing, shells with a non-contact radar fuse AR-51L (firing radius of 8 m) are used.
UZSB-62RP (shot), ZS-63 (shell) - anti-aircraft, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
Mass of explosives - 480 grams (A-IX-2)
Fuse - AR-51L
UOFB-62 (shot), OF-62 (projectile) - high-explosive fragmentation, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
Mass of explosives - 400 grams (A-IX-2)
Fuse - VG-67
Self-liquidator response time - 28-31 sec. Source: http: //militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-89.h
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... like this my friend ...

[Darkmor]

and range 8 km

What did you focus on this 8 km range? Where did you find her? She is not in the performance characteristics of any of the guns.
Here's a link to a document from the official unit of the UTO Meral, to their Supre Rapid gun mount:
http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270
/67176536/body_76_62_sr_rev_2013_1.pdf
They claimed 16km standard, 20km extended (well, 40km and not yet released volcano)
I followed your link to the bastion, I thought maybe they lied there - no, it says the same in range.

and the shells are different ... you can not say about AK -176

Well, Super Rapid shoots the whole nomenclature of an old compact man. The fact that a compact can’t shoot (or rather, theoretically, can, but it’s pointless) with adjustable shells is not a problem.
The lack of reverse unification of ammunition between different generations of the gun system is an absolutely normal trend. Still, new versions of the gun were created simultaneously with new types of ammunition.
The fact that these new types of ammunition have not been created for our AK176 should not be written down in its merits ...

[kitamo]

Quote: Darkmor

Weaving would be better, like anti-ship artillery.

and against which ships in an artillery battle, do you suppose the use of RTOs and RK? Yes, and the weight of a hundred parts is 30 tons far, and the boats are small in size ...

Quote: Darkmor

The same is used as an anti-aircraft gun with shells with a contactless fuse. They say that there are good chances to hit both aircraft and cruise missiles.

and a hundred parts are used as anti-aircraft guns and even a hundred and thirty ... and the main purpose of all of them is on the ship, namely air defense, and all other tasks for all ship gun mounts are purely attendant ..

[parkello]

so the Korean T-80s will go to Cyprus. I heard here from the corner of our ears that they are going to transfer to the island.

[hrych]

Quote: avt

There are a hundred pounds - saving time and money

So rather, it is, MRK is our answer to Chamberlain, when the main drawback of the "locked" of our fleet in the Baltic and the Black Sea becomes the main advantage, in the Caspian it is absolutely for a lake. A cannon for the functions of a watchdog does not matter much when it is designed for Caliber and solves the problem of defeat for thousands of kilometers.
Range with a land mine, and color correction for the curvature of the earth (for Her Majesty a very significant Crimean amendment)

And here with a special head, a very coverage area is impressive (though they forgot about Cuba )

[Alex_Rarog]

Well, firstly, a hundred parts will entail an increase in the mass of the whole structure! Lifts, supporting structures, tools and more! As well as a decrease in BC! Well, why? Minimum power gains to the detriment of everything else?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Yes damn just think about it! 150 rounds per minute! here nafig weaving is unnecessary! it will throw a plop many times more and with new explosives the damage will be no worse!

If I’m not mistaken in the combat deployment of 152 shots, so what? Precision is needed, not quantity.

[DarkMatter]

The deck device “Sphere-02” is an autonomous gyrostabilized optoelectronic observation device. The device is a deck-based system and is designed for round-the-clock and all-weather surveillance of coastal, surface and air space through television and thermal imaging channels.
Viewing area
a) heading angle ± 180 degrees
b) by elevation -20 - +80 angles
Maximum speed of turning the line of sight 60 angular degrees per second
Accuracy of guidance and stabilization of the axis of sight on the object not worse than 1 arcmin
RMS error of measurement of angular coordinates no more than 1 arcmin
Power consumption from the network ~ 27V, 50Hz (without options) 0,2 - 0,5 kW
Weight not more than 140 kg
Life time 15 years
a) warranty period 5 years
b) warranty hours 6000 hours

[kashtak]

count the minute volley. and do not forget about the effectiveness of each individual projectile. so what's about the goodies?

[VP]

And why do boats and RTOs need a hundred?

[dvina71]

Quote: VP

Why do boats and RTOs need weaving?

Well, how to .. Butt with Zamvoltom. AUGi crumble ..

[Alex777]

The theme of hundreds was everywhere when the fleet wanted to reduce the number of calibers for logistical reasons.
2-3 years ago they said that they would not put 76mm anywhere else.
And here is how it turned ..

[kashtak]

Quote: VP

And why do boats and RTOs need a hundred?

interest Ask. apparently for the same why 76 mm. only weaving is more powerful. it has a higher firing range. with modern PUAO it is an effective, multi-purpose weapon capable of solving many tasks without using expensive missiles, the cost of which can be higher than the cost of the target. does such a gun make a boat or MRC a universal missile and artillery ship, no?

[igor.borov775]

Hey. I listened to our specialists in artillery. Everything looks a little different. developments of art modules are underway. This is a very costly business and is taken gradually after improvements and elimination of all problems and errors. They write about old trunks. Yes, the problem is that old trunks do not withstand a high rate of fire, new ones are needed .. Specialists reported. any new art module has a completely new barrel. NICOR is being implemented, but this is a long topic. avt / And will be accepted as soon as ready. Test and 100 ku will be ready to present to the customer. . On camera, the special said the old trunks do not give the effect that is required. With respect.

[Bloodsucker]

Excellent. But it is advisable to yell about superiority when these systems are really and massively installed on ships, and not before and instead of ...
We have some kind of itch, we didn’t have time to invent, break in, check, but already oh, oh oh, the best, first set up serial production, and only then, in fact, there it is, it’s like that don't like his problem.

[Vz.58]

So far, just advertising, like the different combat modules that are shown at exhibitions. An attempt to attract the attention of potential buyers from around the world. To get money. From the Ministry of Defense of Russia now money, for all sorts of things, you’ll not really get out

[Altona]

The guidance system will certainly play a huge role, because at such a range, the projectile can generally fly away to no one knows where. At Zumwalt, its 155-mm projectiles flying at a distance of 100 km at the end of the path, flying up to the target, are corrected by a drone (a dubious decision, of course).

[voyaka uh]

In any case, shells fly along a ballistic trajectory.
With the natural dispersion of shells due to defects in shape, gunpowder, drift in the wind, etc. The greater the distance, the greater the deviation. There is no need to talk about a sniper rifle, rather a comparison with a machine gun.
Or they are corrected at the end (which is very difficult and expensive, and pays off only for a large caliber
with ultra-long flight), or we must put up with deviations from the target.

[novel66]

why is it doubtful - it has been going on for a long time, there Baron Munchausen flew at the same core to increase accuracy!

[Taygerus]

we, as on the outskirts, have not yet launched a series, and the wind is already in all directions, when they are installed on the MRK, then it’s necessary to blow

[Victorio]

Quote: Taygerus

we, as on the outskirts, have not yet launched a series, and the wind is already in all directions, when they are installed on the MRK, then it’s necessary to blow

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ps is not the topic, but it is relevant how the site was "loaded" slowly, and it remained, perhaps, that it became even slower

[Phosgene]

Now 100 mm cannons are put on RTOs and that’s right, and 76 mm is inferior in terms of both firing range and projectile power ... I am against reducing the caliber of gun mounts!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Phosgene

Now 100 mm cannons are put on RTOs and that’s right, and 76 mm is inferior in terms of both firing range and projectile power ... I am against reducing the caliber of gun mounts!

with such a rate of fire and accuracy, than the "three-inch" is worse? and the ammunition capacity is probably more.

[kashtak]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

with such a rate of fire and accuracy, than the "three-inch" is worse?

worse. more precisely, a hundredth is more effective on surface and ground targets. Consider the possibility of adjustable ammunition. not only the rate of fire is important, but also high-explosive capabilities, including one shell. it had already taken place in the 60s during rocket mania. but eventually returned to the caliber of 100-130 mm. to catch MRK boats as soon as possible conditionally to designate a class at least by virtue of tonnage.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Phosgene

Now they put 100 mm guns on the MRK and that's right

They bet on the Buyany-M (21631), which have known problems with seaworthiness and which inherited the 100-mm gun from the artillery Buyan (21630).
Apparently the naval ones decided not to take risks with the "karakurt" (22800), from which seaworthiness is just required and in which they shoved 800-mm AU, a "shell" and 100 UVP into 8 tons of displacement - and replaced the 100-mm with the usual for RTOs since times of the USSR 76-mm.
Out of harm's way - so as not to produce "Tomozuru".

[Mountain shooter]

In fact - a powerful thing, rate of fire - for the entire ZIS-3 division during the war. Ships do not always go on calm water, and such guidance systems can really add a lot of accuracy for small ships.

[Rostislav]

The performance is impressive - 150 rounds per minute. Do you need this, especially when shooting at a range of 10-15 km? Or is it in the hope that at least something gets in?

[max702]

The funny thing is, when was the last time they fired from the guns on the ships? It’s such a means of self-defense of type 7.62 on an armored personnel carrier ... There’s okay, it’s all the same they will be used exclusively in exercises ..

[uskrabut]

Essentially a 76mm machine gun. This is a wonderful metal cutting, but with a good scope even better.

[kitamo]

Quote: Rostislav

The performance is impressive - 150 rounds per minute. Do you need this, especially when shooting at a range of 10-15 km? Or is it in the hope that at least something gets in?

for shooting at an air target it is VERY necessary

[kashtak]

IMHO when using in air defense and missile defense of a ship at this pace is necessary. to create a fragmentation cloud with multiple shells. for the same purpose, at 30 mm the pace was brought to 10000 per minute. where large calibers are taken by the weight and radius of effective damage there 76 mm and lower have to be compensated by the rate of fire.

[masiya]

As you know, this is a fairly old Soviet development with water-cooled outboard sea water. after a certain number of shots, just have time to change the trunks with the casing despite the chrome plating and coating of HF, AK-176 (A221) was done at Mashzavod in Gorky, they passed through my painting section when I worked there in the 80s after the polytechnic, now as far as I know the production crashed , the factory was torn into three parts, and leased, but a large enterprise was 32 thousand. workers, not a joke and produced from the foundry to the finished product in wooden packaging. Yeah, there were times ....

[Alexey RA]

The fundamental decision to define the latest AK-176MA as the main artillery weapon of all coastal zone ships, small missile ships (RTOs) and missile boats (RK) was made this summer.

Everything - "Petrel" again in flight. The Navy has once again confirmed that it does not need a 57mm.

[avt]

Quote: Alexey RA

Everything - "Petrel" again in flight. The Navy has once again confirmed that it does not need a 57mm.

Why the hell is it needed if from 57mm to 76mm they left already in the USSR !! ??? Well, after all, it was not with fright and cost savings that this 57mm caliber was gradually removed, then from the same small-tonnage ships and TFR, by the way, it was transferred to hundreds of meters.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: avt

Why the hell is it needed if from 57mm to 76mm they left already in the USSR !! ???

And you ask the "Petrel".
Since the late 60s, they have been developing the A-220 with persistence worthy of a better application, adding new letters to it - and are desperate to push it into the fleet. And the fleet looks at it in bewilderment.
Well, the Navy does not want to succumb to the new trends of the world ship littoral fashion and shove 57-mm small (and not so) ships.
Even border guards - and they don’t want 57-mm: small ships - 30-mm, with the larger - 76-mm.
"Gravity is good, severity is reliable!"©

[seos]

The Italians at art. installing guided shells. What superiority can we talk about?

[Wiruz]

With the same caliber? I doubt it very much

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Wiruz

With the same caliber? I doubt it very much

In vain doubt.
The 76-mm projectile with an adjustable trajectory for the OTO Melara cannons was described back in Soviet times in the ZVO - it was CORRETTO, which did not go into production because it turned out to be too expensive.
But their business was not in vain - And already in our century, Italians did the 76-mm controlled DART projectile as part of the DAVIDE / STRALES system. Successful tests of the system installed on the ship of the Italian Navy - March 2014.

[PPD]

The price has dropped, presumably? Or has something changed in the economy?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: PPD

The price has dropped, presumably? Or has something changed in the economy?

Italians simply stopped reinventing the wheel, abandoned a projectile with rocket engines changing paths - and decided to make a guided projectile with RCTUs according to the scheme used in limes in Starstreak MANPADS combat modules.

[Mentat]

Quote: seos

The Italians at art. installing guided shells. What superiority can we talk about?

Yes, even with a hyperdrive. If in practice accuracy is higher, then superiority is obvious.

[PKK]

Quote: Altona

The guidance system will certainly play a huge role, because at such a range, the projectile can generally fly away to no one knows where. At Zumwalt, its 155-mm projectiles flying at a distance of 100 km at the end of the path, flying up to the target, are corrected by a drone (a dubious decision, of course).

The first shot is a drone, which directs the remaining shots. This is already used.
After reading the article, I was convinced that the Earth is flat, since the optical sight works at a distance of more than 10 km

[novel66]

But what about battleships fired at ranges up to 30 km? what were you aiming for?

[fzr1000]

The height of their superstructure allowed.

[kitamo]

Quote: PKK

After reading the article, I was convinced that the Earth is flat, since the optical sight works at a distance of more than 10 km

the presence of the otic sight indicates the mandatory shooting with him at maximum ranges ...
besides him there is a radar and a fire control system ...

[Wiruz]

I understand that with the mass introduction of 76-mm guns, can you forget about the 57-mm A-220M? It’s a pity, because the gun promised to be impressive.

[PPD]

Do not regret it. Useless thing. Why is it needed, to scare away a water meter?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Wiruz

I understand that with the mass introduction of 76-mm guns, can you forget about the 57-mm A-220M? It’s a pity, because the gun promised to be impressive.

Impressive for whom? Even 50 years ago, the Navy decided that small ships need not the AK-725, but a light 76-mm AU. And not in vain: as sad practice has shown, the 57-mm shells were not enough for the self-defense of RTOs from a target missile flying into it.

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

In any case, shells fly along a ballistic trajectory.
With the natural dispersion of shells due to defects in shape, gunpowder, drift in the wind, etc. The greater the distance, the greater the deviation. There is no need to talk about a sniper rifle, rather a comparison with a machine gun.

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It goes without saying, I didn’t begin to write that it is necessary to correct this parabola taking into account all the factors you listed, and it’s not a fact that it will fly there, because after spitting out the projectile, the system will no longer be able to interfere with its fate. And the external environment will change: the target will go away, a gust of wind, air density and other factors. And 15 km is all the same "over-the-horizon" shooting, and the sniper shoots within the line of sight.

[Altona]

Quote: PKK

The optical sight operates at a distance of more than 10 km

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It depends on what heights you are aiming for, the horizon from your height is 2 times smaller.

[Vpk72]

But do not put the AK-176MA on the armature?