Sighting and navigation complex SVP-24 "Hephaestus" will be modernized

Aviation Sighting and navigation system SVP-24 "Hephaestus" will be improved, work on its modernization is carried out by specialists of the military technopolis "Era" in Anapa. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the defense industry.

According to an agency source, in the Era technopolis, work is underway to create a new, improved target system Gefest for aircraft, with which you can further improve the accuracy of using unguided ammunition.

The development of the SVP-24 was carried out within the framework of the design and development work "Metronome" in order to increase the combat capabilities of the Su-24M front-line bomber. In Syria, “Hephaestus” was also used on long-range Tu-22М3 bombers. As stated by the chairman of the Military Scientific Committee of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev, the accuracy of destruction with unguided bombs from bomber equipped with Hephaestus is comparable to the use of guided munitions.

SVP-24 "Hephaestus" calculates the course, speed and altitude of the discharge of aviation weapons based on the analysis of several parameters obtained using GLONASS, after which the bombing takes place automatically.

Meanwhile, in the defense industry complex of Russia, it was reported that the upgraded Su-25CM3 attack aircraft would receive an airborne target designation and aiming system with elements of artificial intelligence. The new target designation system will be able to independently recognize enemy targets, hold them in sight, carry out the guidance of guided missiles.

As part of the further modernization of the attack aircraft, the latest versions of the Su-25CM3 will be equipped with a new sighting system. It is fully automated; in fact, the pilot only needs to select a target on the screen, the system will do the rest.

- writes TASS with reference to the source.

Comments

[SHAMAN]

Oh Russia, I remember reading the statistics, in the days of the USSR, we had half of the world-class scientists and developments .. We could solve any problem!
And now we’ll basically upgrade and then the thief at every step .. Shoot a little need ..

[Samaritan]

Now we’re basically upgrading

SVP-24 "Hephaestus" has been equipped since 2012-13, and has been listed since 2008 ... Why not upgrade !? it is ten times cheaper, new! Solves issues, TTZ corresponds!

[Civil]

Quote: SHAMAN

Oh Russia, I remember reading the statistics, in the days of the USSR, we had half of the world-class scientists and developments .. We could solve any problem!
And now we’ll basically upgrade and then the thief at every step .. Shoot a little need ..

As practice shows, mass repressions are usually carried out indiscriminately and many are bought off.

[Maz]

Good luck. It will be cheap and cheerful.

[Cowbra]

By the way, this complex was pretty set on fire for our "American friends". Not only is it much cheaper, with the same efficiency as that of the US managers, but also the USA, in similar conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan, practically abandoned the use of controllers - it is expensive to wet a couple of spirits or a suicide bomber with a controlled bomb. And the Russians fly to themselves with Hephaestus - and do not blow a mustache. The Pentagon is back in a puddle.

[aszzz888]

Cowbra Today, 12:55 pm By the way, this complex pretty much burned our "American friends". Not only is it much cheaper, with the same efficiency as the rulers of the United States, but also the United States, in similar conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan, practically abandoned the use of rulers
+1

Mericatos are certainly rich Pinocchio, but sometimes their stupidity is outrageous. He wedges them not childishly.

[Kurare]

Quote: Cowbra

Not only is it much cheaper, with the same efficiency as the US government, under the same conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan, the USA practically refused to use the government - expensive to wet a couple of spirits or a martyr with a guided bomb.

Each system has its advantages, but there are also disadvantages. KVO, when using SVP, significantly increases in adverse weather conditions, which the system simply cannot predict. For example, gusts of wind at different levels of bomb flight or simply changes in weather conditions (humidity, temperature, etc.). Smart bombs compensate for such changes.

In general, the hypostasis of smart bombs is strikes against objects without entering the enemy's near / medium air defense zone. And for more "simple" purposes - SVP is just right!

[lucul]

work on its modernization is carried out by specialists of the military technopolis "Era" in Anapa

Why exactly in Anapa ??? Was there no safer place in the Urals?
There is a stone's throw from the sea ......

[Vladimir61]

Quote: lucul

Why exactly in Anapa ??? Was there no safer place in the Urals?

So you need to read, not through a line ...

work on its modernization is carried out by specialists of the military technopolis "Era" in Anapa

[Lopatov]

Quote: lucul

Why in Anapa

Great question. Why is the developer of "Hephaestus" from Zhukovsky not doing this?

[lucul]

Why is the developer of "Hephaestus" from Zhukovsky not doing this?

Maybe because it’s easier to steal secrets in Anapa than in Zhukovsky?

[Piramidon]

The thieves! Around some thieves! There are no honest people besides you? Some kind of phobia.

[KVU-NSVD]

[quote = Lopatov] [quote = lucul] Why exactly in Anapa [/ quote]
Great question. Why is the developer of "Hephaestus" from Zhukovsky not engaged in this. [/ Quot Because in the Anapa era there are mini-branches of many military-industrial complex firms. Representatives from enterprises involve recruits from scientific companies to work "according to their interests. Probably a group on" Hephaestus "was formed. Not bad at all.

[Andrey Andreev_4]

It is also necessary to form a Su-57 group in Anapa. You look, conscripts from scientific schools will stumble and roll out the engine of the second stage.

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Representatives from enterprises attract recruits from scientific companies to work "according to their interests. Probably a group on" Hephaestus "was formed

What's the point?
There are developers of "Hephaestus", there is a production base, there are airplanes, there are pilots, there is an opportunity to immediately test it. Why drag development away from all this?

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Why is the developer of "Hephaestus" from Zhukovsky not engaged in this?
I can imagine what boys with high self-esteem will do there, not smelling gunpowder in serious design bureaus.

[Samaritan]

But the sights of Orion and Kayra remained ???

[merkava-2bet]

I honestly do not understand the hype surrounding SVP-24, a conventional digital ballistic computer with advanced functionality and output to ILS. For likely partners, such a system has been installed since the late 1960s, so what is its uniqueness (SVP-24), pumped at all With regard to the United States, the fact that they use guided weapons left and right means they can afford, and more care about the lives of their pilots, especially after the Vietnam syndrome.

[5-9]

Incorrect because it is not an ordinary digital ballistic computer .... Occam's scalpel ...

[merkava-2bet]

What does it mean not ordinary that the WARP engine is worth it.

[merkava-2bet]

Regarding the computer, for example, for a long time, the only combat aircraft in the world that could correct wind with the help of its radar was the Mirage-2000N, during joint exercises with NATO very often it had no equal in the use of unguided weapons at the training grounds.

[Jack O'Neill]

I also do not understand this noise on SVP-24. And, ironically, they compare ordinary cast iron with UAB / CAB.

[Kurare]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Moreover, which is funny, they compare ordinary cast iron with UAB / KAB.

There are also comparisons with and without the use of SVP-24. Those. The SVP is a cross between a free fall and a UAB / CAB.

[Jack O'Neill]

There are also comparisons with and without the use of SVP-24. Those. The SVP is a cross between a free fall and a UAB / CAB.

Sighting and navigation complex and controlled / adjustable bombs, things are still different.
"Hephaestus" puts free-falling bombs more precisely, in contrast to the bombs themselves (KAB / UAB), which are placed more accurately themselves.

[Kurare]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Sighting and navigation complex and controlled / adjustable bombs, things are still different.

No doubt about it. I wrote that Hephaestus positions his brainchild as something in between. But it is still possible and necessary to compare anyway, otherwise how to determine cost-effectiveness? With SVP, in my opinion, the game was worth the candle!

[IL-18]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

compare ordinary cast iron with UAB / KAB.

That's cool! It would be necessary to achieve that shooting from AK, AKM, AK-74 was comparable to shooting at least from SVD.
Nekhilo I dreamed ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: merkava-2bet

the usual digital ballistic computer with extended functionality and output to ILSA

Normal? Oh well...SVP stands for “specialized computational subsystem”. This system constantly monitors the position of the jet and the target (using GLONASS), measures pressure, humidity, wind and plane speed, and direction of flight. It may receive additional information from AWACS aircraft, ground stations, other aircraft. SVP-24 calculates the parameters (speed, altitude, course) at which the “stupid” bomb should be automatically dropped exactly at the moment when its uncontrolled flight leads it exactly to the target (within 3-5 meters).
In practice, this means that every old (age 30 and older) Russian bomb can be delivered by an old plane with the same accuracy as new guided bombs delivered by the newest bomber.
And that is not all. The pilot doesn't even have to think about aiming. He simply enters the exact coordinates of the target into the system, flies to the desired area, and the bombs are dropped automatically. It can focus on detecting enemy actions (aircraft, missiles, anti-aircraft guns). Best of all, this system can be used for bombing from high altitudes,> 5000 meters, where MANPADS cannot reach. In addition, clouds, smoke, weather, and the time of day are irrelevant.
Last but not least, this is a very inexpensive solution. Russia can now use the huge reserves of “stupid” bombs accumulated during the Cold War, they can deliver an almost endless supply of such bombs to Syria, and each of them will hit the target with phenomenal accuracy. Since the SVP-24 is located on an aircraft, not on a bomb, it can be reused. Now give 1-2 names of such "calculators ..." foreign ones ... "from the 60s."

The composition of the SVP-24

[Cympak]

Where can Hephaestus track wind speed? To use Hephaestus, you first need to create a 3D model of the terrain in the target area, at least determine the exact coordinates, including the height. Then you need to conduct a meteorological survey in the target area, determine the pressure, humidity, wind direction at all altitudes ... At the same time, until the bomb is dropped, the weather should not change, otherwise it will be a slip. I do not think that NATO will allow meteorological surveys to be carried out over its facilities. Therefore, "Hephaestus" is a good and cheap weapon, but only in the presence of greenhouse conditions when using ASP and against a weak enemy such as insurgents on gantrucks

[meandr51]

And drones for what? The drone monitors the atmosphere in the target area.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Cympak

Where can Hephaestus track wind speed?

Or maybe you immediately and the key to the safe, where the secret documentation is?
Apparently, the wind speed (and other parameters, too ...) is tracked "in different places" and is transmitted through GLONASS to the SVP-24 for "reflection". The essence of the modernization of SVP-24 is that the Hephaestus carrier aircraft is supposed to be equipped with sensors in order to more quickly and fully obtain information about the parameters (with ,, closer, to “on-line” ...), for example, about wind ... (get info in the target area "immediately" and on different "layers" of the atmosphere ...)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Cympak

Where can Hephaestus track wind speed?

Hydrometeorological Center reports.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Cympak

How Hephaestus can track wind speed

Methods of the sea. For example, you can measure wind parameters using radar. By the way, in artillery meteorologists use this.

[merkava-2bet]

What I wrote above about the Mirage-2000N, I see, the comrades did not pay attention.

[voyaka uh]

"the Russian bomb can be delivered by an old plane with such
as accurate as new guided bombs,
delivered by the latest bomber. "////
-----
Never. The predecessors of Hephaestus - the sights of the Flying Fortress
in 2 th World. When in the USSR copied B-29, then copied and sight
for bombing. With all the computational mechanism and amendments to
wind, humidity, etc. that existed back in the 40s.
For carpet bombing, such sights are super. For single bombs
plus or minus 50 m from a height of 5 km. This was clearly seen in the video of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
From a pack of 8 FABs, one hit the target. The rest formed a "path"
from the funnels.

[Kurare]

Quote: voyaka uh

The predecessors of Hephaestus are the sights of the Flying Fortresses in the 2nd World War.

Well, you bent it. It's like saying, "The predecessor of the Su-24 is the plane of the Wright brothers."

Quote: voyaka uh

With all the computing mechanism and corrections for wind, humidity, etc. that existed back in the 40s.

Well, yes, in the 40s there was also Glonass and airplanes flew with transonic speed.

Quote: voyaka uh

From a pack of 8 FABs, one hit the target. The rest formed a "path"
from the funnels.

There is not even a trace of a path there, since this is not a B-29 bomb bay and bombs do not fall out one after another. The bomb drop sequence can be varied depending on the number of bombs dropped simultaneously and the target type. A point target is not bombed with a "track".

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: voyaka uh

"the Russian bomb can be delivered by an old plane with such
as accurate as new guided bombs,
delivered by the latest bomber. "////
-----
Never. The predecessors of Hephaestus - the sights of the Flying Fortress
in 2 th World. When in the USSR copied B-29, then copied and sight
for bombing. With all the computational mechanism and amendments to
wind, humidity, etc. that existed back in the 40s.
For carpet bombing, such sights are super. For single bombs
plus or minus 50 m from a height of 5 km. This was clearly seen in the video of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
From a pack of 8 FABs, one hit the target. The rest formed a "path"
from the funnels.

Absolutely right. The most advanced sighting system for unguided weapons will at best take into account all conditions at the starting point of the munition trajectory and issue corrections to them, but it is unrealistic to parry the disturbing effects of the environment on the munition all the way.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: voyaka uh

The forerunners of Hephaestus - Flying Fortress sights
in 2 th World. When in the USSR copied B-29, then copied and sight
for bombing. With all the computational mechanism and amendments to
wind, humidity, etc. that existed back in the 40s.

Hmmm ... rumor a joke: An etymological conference "abroad" is taking place ... An Italian makes a report: "When the merchants passed through the city of the Tiber, they lost money and some of their goods ... So the expression appeared:" they got it! "The Russian comes up with a question ..." Dear Professor ! Have you ever lost anything in the city of Pisa? " Dear Voyaka! And what about this time you lost?
Should we look for the predecessor of Hephaestus in WW2? You can also search! And you will not make a claim that the Tu-160 was copied from the B-29? T-90 with Renault FT 17? "Elbrus" with "ENIAC"? And then with "your brother" and not pay off!

[merkava-2bet]

The FMS of the F-4G and higher aircraft was modified, and the F-111 was the most advanced of various modifications and then took over the baton of the Kfir C2 / 7 and Tornado aircraft, currently from the deck F-18E / F, and the land F-15E / I , F-16I, Rafale.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: merkava-2bet

F-4G aircraft control system

Quote: merkava-2bet

F-111

And thanks for that! Thank you, too, for not bringing Pascalins, Thomas's adding machines, Babbage's "calculator" to the page ... By the way, the systems you mentioned are not "tied" to "navigators" such as GPS ... Therefore, in your opinion, we can compare the Tomahawk CD (BGM-109A) with the Block III Tomahawk or even IV!

[merkava-2bet]

And where is GPS, this is just one of the channels for obtaining ballistic data, because they somehow managed to do without it. And since you talked about SSN, then the aircraft of the probable partners were the first to receive them, and the first machine in the USSR with SSN was Tu- 160. The first comprehensive MSAs with the maximum degree of coordination of all systems were on Su-24M and MiG-27K airplanes with the Kaira system, the rest did not even stand close and only the Tu-160 surpassed them, so it was.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: merkava-2bet

and here is GPS, this is just one of the channels for obtaining ballistic data, because without it they somehow managed to cope.

You shouldn't be so ... You'd better think that this is not just "just one of the channels for obtaining ballistic data ..."! Could the "rich Pinocchio" -Americans set up the production of artillery shells with ANN? They could! But they made a number of "Copperheads" and ... "calmed down"! And only the appearance of "excalibers" with GPS-correction made a splash in the "shell business" ...

[merkava-2bet]

And you do not confuse sour with sweet, a projectile with correction for SSN is one thing, and a fire control system is another, its task is to provide the most accurate information before starting / discharging unguided munitions.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: merkava-2bet

its task is to give the most accurate information before starting / dropping unguided ammunition.

That's it ! As accurate as possible! The sighting and navigation systems you mentioned (a kind of "fire control systems" ...) "contain an" inertial subsystem that "forms navigation" autonomously using gyroscopes without correction (!), With the exception of systems using a radio navigation "component" ( terrestrial radio navigation systems ...), but with less accuracy than GPS. "Hephaestus" uses GPS-correction (specifically, GLONASS), which provides an accuracy inaccessible to the "previous" sighting and navigation systems! In addition, software (mathematical) images of the "free fall" trajectories of various (!) Types of ammunition are "attached" to the free-falling ammunition (aerial bombs) used ... , but not to the "maximum required"; , an "autonomous" INS system tends to accumulate "navigation" errors. Correction can be carried out by means of a seeker, which has its own "fetters" (that is, not "ideal"!) ... GPS-correction gives a new quality not only to ammunition (shells), but also to weapons (!) (Artillery) ... These comparisons can be carried over to aviation sighting and navigation systems.

[CommanderDIVA]

In the media, one of our generals said that Hephaestus was one of the useful devices according to the results of the combat use of the Russian Federation naval forces in Syria, the system allowed to thoroughly get rid of old bombs of the last century

[donavi49]

So the Americans also do. They also have their own system for the disposal of old ammunition for the Papuans.

[Dzafdet]

Design and experience faster in Syria and surrounding countries ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Dzafdet

Design and experience faster in Syria and surrounding countries ...

No need to test В countries as AT of them.

[Horse, people and soul]

So this is not even a country, but a territory with external management.

[The leader of the Redskins]

By the way, in Dill also began to develop a new version of the scout based on the Su-24 MR. An interesting trend, however ...

[Professor]

According to the chairman of the Military Scientific Committee of the RF Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Igor Makushev, the accuracy of the defeat of unguided bombs from bombers equipped with "Hephaestus" comparable using guided munitions.

I recently had a meeting with a hardware supplier. On my requirements for equipment that must have an accuracy of several micrometers, and he brought in one that provides millimeters, he said: "5000 micrometers (5 mm) are also micrometers and the accuracy is comparable." The curtain.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Oleg Sokolov) Yesterday, 20: 02 ... and he dragged one that provides millimeters

... knew who, and what to "drag" ...

[Horse, people and soul]

Instead of an expensive "smart bomb" - a smart sight and endless depots (count free) of ammunition since the days of the USSR.

Well done!



Threat ...

The trials of the NATO smart bomb ended in failure. The crew could not persuade the smart bomb to leave the plane.

[iouris]

But there are stupid bombs: dropped in one gulp and each hits a point target. Your actions?

[Horse, people and soul]

My actions? I already celebrate Victory Day!

Happy Victory Day, comrades!

[Andrey Andreev_4]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

By the way, in Ukropia they also set about developing a new reconnaissance variant based on the Su-24 MR. ...

Whence infa, they still have a working Su-24?

[iouris]

What does the crew do?