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Steinmeier: Europe needs a new arms control treaty

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German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier called for a new arms control treaty in Europe, reports RIA News.




Russia has repeatedly called on NATO to discuss weapons in Europe. “Restarting control could be a reliable way to achieve transparency, prevent risks and build trust,” the minister writes in an article for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

According to him, “in the past, a strategy of restraining and easing tensions was used in relations with Russia.”

“NATO is pursuing this dual strategy now. However, as a deterrence strategy is concrete and obvious to all, so the invitation to cooperate should be specific, ”Steinmeier said.

He noted that the restart of arms control should also be applied "to areas with a disputed territorial status." In addition, the agreement should include "new weapons systems, define the upper limits of regional borders and minimum distances between them."

It is also necessary to take into account the "new military capabilities and strategies."

“To do this, we want a structured dialogue with all partners responsible for security on our continent,” writes Steinmeier. In his opinion, “the OSCE is an important platform for dialogue.”
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  1. Putinets
    Putinets 26 August 2016 10: 18
    +10
    Geyropa needs new politicians, preferably thinking not of opoe, but of their heads and wallets, then the good can and will be
    1. ravend
      ravend 26 August 2016 11: 13
      +7
      why didn’t they write about Crimea?


      In it, the German Foreign Minister, as the agency notes, implying the annexation of Crimea to Russia, said that Moscow "violated the basic, non-negotiable principles of peace, breaking the delicate bonds of trust that have been formed over decades."

      https://news.mail.ru/politics/26901280/?frommail=1
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 26 August 2016 11: 15
        +3
        How many correct words. Only the level of trust in the leadership of Geyropa is somewhere under the baseboard.
        1. Thompson
          Thompson 26 August 2016 20: 08
          +3
          I think you're not quite right. A lot of the right words on their part is that you thought too well about them. In confirmation of thisHe noted that the restart of arms control should be applied to “areas with disputed territorial status” Here he had in mind only the Crimea and Donbass with Lugansk, Transnistria, and believe me, Yugoslavia, which was not tattered to pieces, was not doubled by NATO ... !!! Further it is clear ...
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 26 August 2016 12: 13
      +10
      Quote: Putin
      Geyropa needs new politicians, preferably thinking not of opoe, but of their heads and wallets, then the good can and will be
      While they think for zhopodumy from across the ocean and Murkel’s old wallet and Hollande’s rag con, Steinmeier hasn’t spoken any words, it’s all an empty talking room. request
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 26 August 2016 21: 19
      +2
      [quote] Geyropa needs new politicians, preferably thinking not with sloppiness, but with their heads and wallets, then the good can and will be
      [/ quote /
      You know, Yuri, as "Gevropa", I can’t say this or that, because I don’t know such a continent as Gevropa. Apparently you were a "poor student" at school, in geography in particular. And as for politicians who think with their heads, and not by that very thing, which you mentioned, Steinmeier is an extremely pragmatic politician. And he is quite "handshake" in Russia, the fact that some of his statements do not like the sofa decks from our site, this is unfortunately due to the lack of elementary education, these very ..... But in general, Steinmeier does a lot for the practical improvement of mutual relations between Russia and the FRG a lot of. hi
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 August 2016 10: 20
    +5
    Let them begin with themselves first. In the meantime, we'll see.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 26 August 2016 10: 45
      +9
      (Let them start with themselves first. For now, we will see.)

      Right, trust, but don't turn your back. And at the moment, a base in the center of Europe in Russia will not hurt.
      1. Mercenary
        Mercenary 26 August 2016 10: 57
        +4
        And at the moment, a base in the center of Europe in Russia will not hurt.


        Hah! How cool! Once again, so that little hands to "swing" the Albanians in Kosovo, would not reach! Fit good

        And about the article ...

        What kind of Steinmeer is Uman)))

        Do you want to tie our hands again? What would we then poke these pieces of paper in the face, expressing "deep concern"?

        There are no fools ... I hope!
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 27 August 2016 10: 24
          0
          Hah! How cool! Once again, so that the little hands to "swing" the Albanians in Kosovo, would not reach! Good good
          And about the article ...
          What kind of Steinmeer is Uman)))
          Do you want to tie our hands again? What would we then poke these pieces of paper in the face, expressing "deep concern"?
          There are no fools ... I hope!

          Hah. Zhenya, the coolest comment! You are a colleague, do not write during the poles. It's funny. laughing
    2. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 26 August 2016 11: 10
      +1
      But does anyone need this Europe ... Oh yes !! Radicals are needed ..
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 27 August 2016 10: 30
        0
        But does anyone need this Europe ... Oh yes !! Radicals are needed ..

        You, Dmitry, may not need it, you can continue in your White Clay, knead clay. And our country, of course, needs Europe, at least to sell its products.
        You, Dmitry, aren't tea from the former marshals of divandes, do you write such nonsense?
  3. Vend
    Vend 26 August 2016 10: 22
    +8
    “To do this, we want a structured dialogue with all partners responsible for security on our continent,” Steinmeer writes.
    Want security? There is nothing easier, expel the USA from Europe. And you will be calm and safe.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 26 August 2016 10: 27
      +11
      It’s real - the Umerikans in Europe registered themselves, dragged their iron there beyond all means, and what is the point with this Europe to agree on some kind of mutual restrictions if there is a force in the region where these restrictions are deep to the fifth point?
      1. Mercenary
        Mercenary 26 August 2016 11: 00
        +2
        what is the point with this Europe to agree on some kind of mutual restrictions if there is a force in the region where these restrictions are deep to the fifth point?


        Here is the salt that is not for us! For them, yes! Etzh are our "honest and kindest partners"!
  4. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 26 August 2016 10: 23
    +4
    Is it okay to shake AnaLconda and other reptiles?
  5. dsm100
    dsm100 26 August 2016 10: 28
    +2
    With these crooks do not FIG negotiate. Useless.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 26 August 2016 10: 47
      +1
      Quote: dsm100
      With these crooks do not FIG negotiate. Useless.

      How not to remember the measure of a well-fed man:
      Do you know who they are? Oh brother ... These are crooks. An ominous crime on the roof is now planned

      Do not limit, they will still be afraid of the world's best motor ghosts laughing
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 26 August 2016 10: 32
    +1
    It’s interesting with whom in the new Europe it is possible to conclude an agreement, because it is already blindly clear who rules the world. Or is it such an attempt to show its significance and put forward new initiatives that they themselves did not support ............... ....
    Does Dahl think of the world as much as Steinmeier?
  7. Nitarius
    Nitarius 26 August 2016 10: 33
    +4
    Well, let them agree .. We are in EURASIA .. and they are in Europe .. here, let each other decide who and what and to whom and what to show! WE are out of business ... our hut with the edge ... WE have no relation to GAYS!
  8. FID
    FID 26 August 2016 10: 34
    +1
    Well, Europe is NATO (how many countries ???), and Russia is one? And how to control weapons: one country and a bloc? Will it be too much ... Or are they just scat ????
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 26 August 2016 11: 53
      +6
      They are not stsat, but they offer another shnyaga like control over, but Russia is going to control, not their 20 countries. Ours must meet appropriate requirements - since you are all in the same military unit - please be so kind as to have in total the same number of weapons as Russia has. And then these contraceptives want to equalize arms in the European part of Russia, not counting the Turkish assets of NATO and other NATO members.
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 26 August 2016 14: 12
        +3
        Corsair
        "since you are all in the same military bloc, please be so kind as to have in total as many weapons as Russia has"...

        !!! hi

        I always want to say the same thing about nuclear weapons ...
        And then we were "balanced" with the United States, not even with NATO ... Somehow modestly "forgetting" about the nuclear weapons of other NATO countries ...
  9. Amurets
    Amurets 26 August 2016 10: 37
    +4
    NATO adheres to that double strategy now. However, just as the containment strategy is concrete and obvious to everyone, the invitation to cooperation should be concrete, ”Steinmeier believes.

    Not a double strategy, but a strategy of double standards adheres to NATO. And do not put a shadow on the fence, but return to the agreements on the non-proliferation of NATO to the East and throw out Baltic mongrel from NATO, no one threatens them, and when an agreement was reached, these Baltic mongrel were with the USSR.
  10. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 August 2016 10: 40
    +2
    The German Foreign Ministry is one thing, NATO is another, and the United States outside Europe is the third. How will the US Army develop out of agreement?
    We don’t need it. Parity with NATO in Europe, and the United States outside the brackets.
  11. Lelek
    Lelek 26 August 2016 10: 41
    +3
    (NATO adheres to this double strategy now. However, just as the containment strategy is concrete and obvious to everyone, the invitation to cooperation should be concrete. ”)

    Well, the idea is sound. So go from blah blah to specification and dissolve the NATO bloc. This will be an effective impetus to the dialogue on the reduction of not only armaments, but also military units on the Euro-Asian continent. The flag is in your hands.
  12. Cry
    Cry 26 August 2016 10: 42
    +1
    He was frightened of the X-32 cruise missiles, so he comes up with fear.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 26 August 2016 21: 46
      0
      He was afraid of the X-32 cruise missiles, so he comes up with fear

      We are surrounded, banderlogs are testing new tactical missiles. Apparently this gave Steinmeier confidence and unwaveringness, a very determined gentleman. fool

      .... According to Turchinov, Ukrainian missiles are superior to their Russian counterparts, because they (Ukrainian missiles approx RNT24) are guided, which, in his opinion, will more accurately hit targets .... wink laughing laughing

      Details on RusNewsToday24: http://rusnewstoday24.ru/novosti-ukrainyi/turchinov-rasskazal-pochemu-ukrainski
      e-raketyi-prevoshodyat-rossiyskie.html
  13. Donhapa
    Donhapa 26 August 2016 10: 50
    +1
    Quote: Putin
    Geyropa needs new politicians, preferably thinking not of opoe, but of their heads and wallets, then the good can and will be

    Nahai now they agree with themselves and reduce
    We have already shortened ...
  14. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 26 August 2016 10: 52
    +4
    In order to relieve NATO tensions, and to control the proliferation of weapons, doping, etc. I am ready to gradually send them my tests in unlimited quantities on a voluntary basis!
  15. egor-kz
    egor-kz 26 August 2016 10: 55
    +1
    He noted that the restart of arms control should be applied to “areas with disputed territorial status.”

    And who knows, Colleagues, what is Mr. Steinmeier about?
    1. VP
      VP 26 August 2016 11: 14
      +1
      This is it about the Crimea
      1. egor-kz
        egor-kz 26 August 2016 14: 52
        +2
        It would be necessary, in that case, to acquaint with the old Russian verdict: "nakos, take a bite!" negative
  16. AlexTires
    AlexTires 26 August 2016 10: 59
    +3
    To the agreement with the European Union - definitely YES! Especially without the participation of shaving. No agreement with NATO! This is a gangster, terrorist group, hiding behind the mask of a defensive alliance. But, on the other hand, I sometimes get the feeling that Germany, and Europe, are not long ago the subjects of international agreements ....
    1. Senior manager
      Senior manager 26 August 2016 14: 57
      +1
      Absolutely, the occupied countries are not independent in their actions, which means there’s nothing to agree on.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 26 August 2016 11: 07
    +1
    Such an agreement may be needed, but ... it must take into account global realities, and not as the West wants to concoct it - either an agreement between Russia and the USA, but without taking into account the European satellites of the USA, or between Russia and the EU, but not taking into account the USA. And it won’t work ...
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 26 August 2016 14: 33
      0
      mamont15
      "Such an agreement may be needed, but ... it must take into account global realities".....

      It seems to me that the new treaties should first of all take into account the interests of Russia and not harm it ... As the notorious treaty on limiting the INF Treaty ...
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 August 2016 11: 11
    +2
    Europe needs a new arms control treaty

    If only Europe needed it. Europe needs a complete reformatting. Want to survive - focus on Russia.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 26 August 2016 21: 49
      +1
      Europe needs full reformatting

      Europe must first get rid of American bases, tanks, missiles and other targets on its territory. fool
  19. VP
    VP 26 August 2016 11: 13
    +3
    1. They want control over the armed forces in Crimea
    2. To limit those areas of armament where
    3. Move our troops somewhere to Moscow and Kursk
    In response, they can generously withdraw a company from Lithuania
  20. bald
    bald 26 August 2016 11: 15
    +1
    This is a good thing.
    “To do this, we want a structured dialogue with all partners responsible for security on our continent,” writes Steinmeier. In his opinion, “the OSCE is an important platform for dialogue.”
    Yes, only this OSCE -... ke (a group of registered tourists), something is not believed.
  21. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 26 August 2016 11: 26
    +11
    And what is the point of negotiating with countries that are not independent in decision-making. And the 'looking' uncle has a habit of ignoring everything and everything. Russia needs to think very seriously about the mechanism for securing any agreements with these slaves. Remember, like a classic movie - "turn off the gas" for example, and without any curtsies there. Sometimes it seems to me that it's time for Kadyrov to add to the Lavrov / Zakharov company: one official, the second is a smart talking head, and the third officially presses if they don't hear the first two
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 26 August 2016 17: 40
      0
      (And what's the point of negotiating with countries that are not independent in decision-making.)

      You're right. And direct evidence of this is the plans of the United States and Bulgaria (here you have the little brothers) to air patrol the Black Sea (this is when Steinmeier puts forward his projects). Another blah blah against the backdrop of figs in your pocket.
  22. darkmind
    darkmind 26 August 2016 12: 03
    +2
    Let Poland and the Baltic states restrict.
  23. Valter1364
    Valter1364 26 August 2016 12: 06
    +3
    Unfortunately, at the moment in the West there are no adequate politicians with whom it was possible to talk and seek compromises. Once again, the time comes when you must first beat, and then talk. sad
  24. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 26 August 2016 12: 08
    0
    Since when did Germany even have a voice in discussing arms control in Europe?)) Everyone is waiting for Putin to change, they lick their lips straight. But they don’t even imagine that the successor can be much tougher and in general will stop discussing anything with the Limitrophs.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 26 August 2016 14: 38
      0
      kirieeleyson
      "Everyone is waiting for the change of Putin, they lick their lips straight. But they don't even know that successor can be much tougher and in general will stop discussing anything with the limitrophes "...

      Hmm ... I can’t see something at point blank range ...
      Are you really hinting at Zhirinovsky? God forbid from the holy fool in power ...
      He is now right there ... The one who is allowed to state what the official king cannot under the protocol ...
  25. razved
    razved 26 August 2016 12: 09
    0
    Not Russia began the process of ignoring the foundations of security in Europe and arms control ...
  26. HAEMHNK
    HAEMHNK 26 August 2016 12: 25
    0
    Speak of control, say the new order (these are those on whose territory the most military bases of a foreign state are).
    All right.
    Let all the US occupation troops dump from Europe and you will have a new device.
  27. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 26 August 2016 13: 10
    +1
    what can be decided with those who are completely deprived of sovereignty. The base of the American in Germany is more than the population in their country.
  28. Valkh
    Valkh 26 August 2016 13: 14
    +2
    Vshtan-maer is very right !!!! The demarcation territory should return to the Warsaw Pact line !!!
  29. darkmind
    darkmind 26 August 2016 13: 15
    0
    By the way, the situation in Europe is very serious. After Ukraine will fall to pieces, Poland will definitely grab the western piece of Ukrainian territory. Russia will start a direct confrontation with Poland. After the new administration in the states, they will finally cease to support Ukraine. Already, the IMF does not want to give money. And there is still 3 billion. debt to Russia. The British court will decide on the debt in favor of Russia, otherwise there will be problems with the debt securities of many countries. In Ukraine, there will be a default, aggravation in the Donbas is already underway, constant rallies in Kiev. Therefore, the collapse of Ukraine is a matter of 2017. I am not writing this because I want it to be that way. This is a real situation. Is Russia ready for a potential war with Poland? If Poland annexes Western Ukraine, then this will psychologically push Russia towards the annexation of Eastern Ukraine. Will Russia be ready to economically support Eastern Ukraine, because the Ukrainian economy will be destroyed?
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 26 August 2016 14: 10
      +3
      Well, for this game in the Great Game, Steinmeier wants to limit us as far as possible. That is why he has woven a "containment strategy" and concrete agreements. The usual European diplomatic manner - you DO this, and we will PROMISE you for this.
      The Treaty on Conventional Arms in Europe should begin with the assertion that American arms are withdrawn from Europe as a whole. And only from this moment are some agreements possible. Hoping this is ridiculous. So that...
      The guys wrote an invoice for a ride. Our foreign policy at the moment allows us to hope for "not rolled". In general, it's time to think about what territory we will take for ourselves from the Ukrainian "state" and what will be the mechanism for promptly releasing Svidomo from our territory.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 26 August 2016 14: 43
      +1
      darkmind
      “If Poland annexes Western Ukraine, it will psychologically push Russia to annex Eastern Ukraine. Russia will be ready to economically support Eastern Ukraine, will the Ukrainian economy be destroyed? "...

      Hmm ... Well, is Poland ready and even able to contain Western Ukraine?

      She (ZU) that in the USSR was subsidized, that as part of Ukraine ...
      Fight with Poland over it? Or will Poland get into war with Russia over the memory?

      Funny ...
  30. weksha50
    weksha50 26 August 2016 14: 07
    +2
    "a restart of arms control should be applied and"to areas with disputed territorial status"" ...

    Hmm ... already Poland (!!!) began to talk about Russia returning to Germany (!!!) the Kaliningrad region ... Poland, not Germany (!!!) ...
    Is this new attempts to revise treaties and borders after World War II?

    Well, about the revision of arms treaties ...

    Russia already has hands and feet bound by the INF Treaty, unlike Germany and other countries ... Enough enslaving agreements ...

    It seems to me that all these restrictions, including the new types of weapons, are primarily understood by Steinmeier, taking into account precisely the Kaliningrad region ...

    In matters of arms limitations, Russia must show a clear position from the position: "No, no, and again no!" ...
    1. egor-kz
      egor-kz 26 August 2016 15: 00
      +1
      Not the first time, Colleague, I absolutely agree with you. It just seems to me that the pro-Amerian mutts, calling themselves Poland, received a signal from the conductor and therefore began to make unpleasant sounds, in this case by mouth.
      Germany is another matter! Steinmeier, in my opinion, is somewhat different from his "Bundescanzlerina" and this is WHAT he wants to say (if he is) with this, for me the question.
  31. black
    black 26 August 2016 14: 58
    +2
    Yes, they would not go with their contracts. There is no faith for them. Again they want to ..., deceive us, i.e. And we are ready to talk. Meet there, drink mineral water or something stronger. Look at Frau, it will not hurt. How are they doing there with fantasy? Then come to us. We will show them our krail. And to sign agreements with those who will not abide by them - do not respect yourself.
  32. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 26 August 2016 17: 03
    +1
    They say one thing, do another. It is time for Russia to dictate its terms on all security parameters in the geyrop. For there is no sense and will not be until the Pentagon is the main strategist.
  33. LastLap
    LastLap 26 August 2016 18: 38
    0
    Dear! With all the talk about the negotiability of Nata, the proposal to conclude a new agreement (taking into account the disputed territories) looks like the "partners" are ready to make serious concessions and a new format of contractual relations with all the ensuing consequences.
  34. japs
    japs 26 August 2016 22: 11
    +3
    What to negotiate? And, most importantly, with whom?
    There is not a single independent state in Europe.
    A pack of mattress mongrel.
  35. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 26 August 2016 22: 11
    0
    The recipe for peace for Europe is simple - dissolve NATO, remove the occupying troops of the SGA, and only then we will agree on the control and reduction of "everything and everyone"! And everything else is verbiage from the devil! hi
  36. family tree
    family tree 26 August 2016 22: 20
    +1
    I read, then read what he said, then looked at his physiognomy, then remembered this:
  37. faterdom
    faterdom 26 August 2016 22: 24
    +1
    Once we were cheated with the CFE Treaty (albeit with reservations: “us” are Gorbachev and Shevardnadze. Or these two peppers, together with the West, are all of us). And now it is absolutely certain that Pavlov with his famous dog, light bulb and saliva has established a direct pattern: the closer we hold a fist to theirs ... this, like his, face, the more rational thoughts begin to emerge in this face. ... Therefore - in no case! do not remove, do not move or reduce - there will be a high. For sobriety.
  38. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 27 August 2016 07: 50
    0
    When, in the last 10-20 years, American bases and military personnel have flooded all of Europe from Romania and Bulgaria in the south to the "proud" northern republics of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, Steinmeer decided to talk about some kind of double standards and control of Russia. It is clear that Germany is dancing to the tune of the United States, but history must be remembered and where and in what city and for what Steinmeier's compatriots were tried, especially the Germans must remember.
  39. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 27 August 2016 08: 54
    0
    Dear Steinmayer!
    I agree with you that arms control is needed!
    But there are questions that Germany must decide for itself before adopting such a law.
    1. The question of German independence from US policy
    2. It will be determined who needs this law and why? For the US, what use Germany as overseer for Russia?
    3. Can Germany, finally and firmly, express its opinion on Russia and how Germany sees its future alongside its neighbor.

    I think we have a lot in common! we are not only neighbors! Our stories of development and formation are intertwined! Centuries unite us, if not more. It was both good and bad. But we were always there.
    So what does Germany think now? So how should a German think, or since an American obliges him to think and act?
  40. 1536
    1536 27 August 2016 09: 02
    0
    "As before, so now ..." Neo-fascists, both before and now, will be defeated, and they will only sign unconditional surrender.
    The German proposal for some kind of "arms control" in the days when the Germans showed that they yearn for revenge for defeat in World War II sounds blasphemous.
    Stannmeier, 22 June 1941 year will not happen again!
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  42. PValery53
    PValery53 28 August 2016 00: 29
    0
    Steinmeier, putting forward the "initiative" for arms control, implies control of Russia's armaments. For a start, he can be "advised to practice" to control the armaments of US military bases on German territory. And when there is nothing to control (the American bases will be washed away to their historical homeland), then we can start discussing arms control in tse Europe.