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They are two, we are eight: the alignment before the battle is not theirs

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I deliberately altered the magic lines of Vysotsky from a famous song. Always wanted to hear something like that, where our more. But for some reason, more and more propagandize courageous “overcoming”, when “we are back to back” and “we are so few”.


In general, contemporary Russian art, especially what used to be called stage music, is not at all occupied with the theme of defending the Motherland or introducing the people to the military history. Why? I don’t know, probably, because among them there are few who know its history at least at the level of a school course. It's a shame, however.

But there is a group in the West, and in the style of heavy metal, which quite well itself perfectly propagandizes Soviet military history, and with knowledge of the matter.

Here is the official video, there is not the best video series, but there is a text. What do the descendants of the Vikings and the true Aryans sing about? About Soviet pilots who bombed Germans almost the entire war on small low-speed aircraft. And how they sing: you will rock! By the way, reading the memories of the Germans about the Eastern Front, almost in every one you come across the mention of the night bombers, who "could hang in the air and throw bombs into the dugout pipe."



Sabaton also has another cool song, freely translated as "Tank march. "Yes, yes, the battle of Prokhorovka is mentioned there. The song describes the course of the battle and even the fact that the Soviet troops suffered heavy losses there, but stopped the Germans. That is, everything corresponds to modern historical research. And the German name itself" Citadel "mentioned.

I liked this version of the video, although the Russian translation is controversial there.



But the Swedes did not finish this anneal, there is a song about the storming of Berlin. And Zhukov and Stalin, of course, mentioned.



And each song gives a great answer, why he won the USSR. Question: why there is not a single Russian group that sang something like that?
Videos of Sabaton. Songs: Night wiches, Attero dominatus, Panzerkampf
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  1. Vend
    Vend 24 August 2016 13: 09
    +21
    Question: why is there not a single Russian group that sang anything like that?
    Well, why. Group "Aria" about bombers "One thousand one hundred". Group "Pilgrim" song "Bridgehead". "Legion" - "Invasion", "There is no death", "Victory!", "Heroes" - "Scarlet sunsets". And of course "Alice".
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 24 August 2016 13: 24
      +13
      Impressive

      In general, when will we finish submitting sweet boys and girls to competitions?

      We have something to tell, and there is someone who can do it


      1. Vend
        Vend 24 August 2016 13: 38
        +4
        On the question of "sweet boys". The "Heroes" group itself
    2. kashtak
      kashtak 24 August 2016 14: 06
      +7
      have you forgotten about "Lube"?
      1. Vend
        Vend 24 August 2016 14: 36
        +2
        I forgot, you're right. hi
        1. Dr dron
          Dr dron 24 August 2016 15: 30
          +13
          I prefer the work of Igor Rasteryaev


      2. veteran66
        veteran66 24 August 2016 21: 51
        +4
        Lube, with all due respect and even love for the group, is still a product of local consumption, it is necessary to carry history to the masses in the modern language of youth. This group - Sabaton does just that. And I, 52 years old, are pleased to hear and the young son of an acquaintance "rushes".
    3. apk
      apk 24 August 2016 16: 27
      +5
      Well, why. Group "Aria" about bombers "One thousand one hundred". Group "Pilgrim" song "Bridgehead". "Legion" - "Invasion", "There is no death", "Victory!", "Heroes" - "Scarlet sunsets". And of course "Alice".

      Look at Aria's "Unconquered", released this year. Moved me to tears.
    4. Gomel
      Gomel 24 August 2016 22: 16
      +1
      Kipelov "Leningrad"
    5. Buffet
      Buffet 25 August 2016 09: 32
      0
      Kipelov song about the besieged Leningrad Not conquered. Kipelov has songs like Platoon. Mother Russia will live. Aria Ballad about an old Russian warrior, Mavrin Element.
  2. Urfin
    Urfin 24 August 2016 13: 20
    +10
    Sabaton also sings about the British and even the Nazis. They sing well - some of their songs are on my track.
    But they, as befits Europeans, do not praise people, but the idea - in this case, the idea of ​​war, struggle and courage - no matter who and against whom. We don’t need these.
    We have Soviet songs about war and struggle, but not just like that - but for peace and against evil.
    In addition, Aria has a song 1100, and other rock bands. The marshal has good songs, pop songs from anybody, etc.
  3. Basil50
    Basil50 24 August 2016 13: 20
    +9
    Well, the question. So you can walk around everyone who jumps on the stage and there will be no answer. Few of the estradniki feel like a CITIZEN OF RUSSIA. For them, touring and, as a result, fees are the main indicator of success, and rarely does anyone agree to limit themselves.
  4. pavelty
    pavelty 24 August 2016 13: 22
    +4
    Yeah, interesting ... I've never heard of these Swedes. Need to see more, creatively)
  5. Vend
    Vend 24 August 2016 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: Vasily50
    Well, the question. So you can walk around everyone who jumps on the stage and there will be no answer. Few of the estradniki feel like a CITIZEN OF RUSSIA. For them, touring and, as a result, fees are the main indicator of success, and rarely does anyone agree to limit themselves.

    This claim is not to singers on stage, but to producers. It is they who organize touring tours.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 24 August 2016 13: 28
    +9
    Sabaton is a great team .. We also have good groups, they don’t let them go to the central heating stations .. they’re not in the format .. Look at the lights on the three federal channels .. the same people .. well the same .. so not the first year ..and a decade ..
  7. Fitter65
    Fitter65 24 August 2016 13: 34
    +2
    I listened, even considering that I once learned German, and English "I listen with a dictionary" is pretty good stuff. Today I'll throw it on a USB flash drive, tomorrow at work SLAVAR will translate it in more detail. I can't understand why I can't like to put an article?
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 24 August 2016 16: 40
      0
      In the search engine, type - Amalgam Translation Bureau. Most likely you will find text with translation.
  8. sabakina
    sabakina 24 August 2016 13: 39
    +2
    The article is definitely a plus. As a person with a musical ear, I like a good metallic. I would like to write more, but I must think, one warning, thanks to the Professor has already received. I’ll go out for a minute, no, five minutes.
  9. antivirus
    antivirus 24 August 2016 13: 40
    0
    Question: why is there not a single Russian group that sang anything like that?
    Posted by: Oleg Rico

    Woodpeckers only peck bugs
  10. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 24 August 2016 13: 50
    +14
    "Sabaton" is a cosmopolitan group and does not "propagandize Soviet military history." They simply build on the dynamic and popular theme of war. They have a song that shows the winter war from the Finnish point of view, "white death" is kind of called. There are works on the theme of Napoleonic warriors.
    But the question of the fact that we do not have an adequate patriotic "non-noreal" education is a serious question. While the Bondarchuk and Mikhalkovs are making films about the war in our country, while it is forbidden to bring songs about Stalin to the Victory Day concerts, we will be under the heel of the liberals. And some of the songs of "Sabaton" are really good, it's true.
  11. Kenneth
    Kenneth 24 August 2016 13: 51
    +5
    I wonder where the myth was born that only women fought on 2. There was one female regiment on the 2, one on the front of the 2 and several dozen in fighter aircraft.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 25 August 2016 00: 35
      0
      I think because of the movie "Sky Slow", which was filmed in 1945. And yes, it was men who fought on Po-2. 2 separate women's regiments - a drop in the bucket.
  12. egor-kz
    egor-kz 24 August 2016 13: 51
    +3
    In general, when will we finish submitting sweet boys and girls to competitions?

    Unfortunately, at these very "contests" no one is interested in anyone except sweet boys and bearded girls. wassat
  13. Traveller
    Traveller 24 August 2016 13: 59
    +5
    There is also a group called "Onslaught", and "Sky on Fire" sang about our pilots, and "Scarlet Rose" honored the memory of the nurses, and many other groups, the only problem is that these songs and many other good songs glorifying our history are known to a limited number people, but mostly "singing cowards"
  14. sabakina
    sabakina 24 August 2016 14: 10
    +4
    I thought for a long time why we don't have such "aggressive" songs? Perhaps we should start with the song "Do the Russians want wars"? We must remember all the folk songs of Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians. Remember the fragment from the film "Only Old Men Go to Battle", where Captain Titarenko said:
    - And I and Tavria. (further in the text).
    And he sang ...
    We have always wanted peace and our songs are kind, lyrical. But, it’s obvious it’s time to change something, because THERE do not understand that we are peaceful. There are kilometers of Soviet newsreels, Soviet films about the war, from which you can make an excellent cut for THEM with good metal from us. Well, sort of everything.
  15. james
    james 24 August 2016 14: 24
    +4
    The "Motor roller" group from Kazakhstan is also worthy of attention
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdC6YMJJKuc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfJcnm1kT9k
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH9JafyOyB8 и т.д.
  16. nakhtigalsif
    nakhtigalsif 24 August 2016 14: 32
    0
    belay The song SHOULD glorify peace and labor. Children are told that they would listen to the words in the songs and hands up once. You won’t be singing at the table.
  17. Russia
    Russia 24 August 2016 15: 19
    +2
    why is there not a single Russian group that sang anything like that?

    Because in our mass media only "creaklam" is open.
    And "kreakly", by definition, cannot sing such songs! Well, it is not given to them and will not give ...
  18. Lord_Bran
    Lord_Bran 24 August 2016 15: 48
    +1
    Sabaton is a great group. The themes of her songs in the West are often criticized and scolded.
    There is also a cool Finnish band KURSK, they sing quite good doom metal in Russian. Recommend. hi
  19. Koshak
    Koshak 24 August 2016 16: 55
    0
    not only cons, even "likes" are not given negative
  20. Mwg
    Mwg 24 August 2016 17: 18
    +2
    There are still people in the West who remember the strength and glory of the Soviet people. God forbid that I had to remind
  21. Hyppopotut
    Hyppopotut 24 August 2016 19: 06
    +5
    Here I am not thinking about specific groups, but about the direction of pop art in general ... I do not call on everyone and everyone to sing patriotic songs around the clock, but listen to what rushes from the speakers ... Slobbering songs of voiceless amateurs ... For example, I'm tired to be indignant at what voicelessness is played all day on "Russian Radio" ... And not only. Where are the winners of the song contests? You can't hear them ... But absolutely mediocre songs for mediocre verses, performed by no less mediocre performers ... But this is also an aesthetic education ... Patriotic songs can be heard once a week, classics are not found at all ...
    Or is it indulging (and upbringing), the unassuming tastes of slaves ???
  22. Torins
    Torins 24 August 2016 19: 31
    +1
    They didn’t mention Mikhail Kalinkin) Thanks to one well-known game about tanks, he became a very famous performer, Anisimov sings great songs about the war)
  23. certero
    24 August 2016 19: 40
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    Well, why. Group "Aria" about bombers "One thousand one hundred". Group "Pilgrim" song "Bridgehead". "Legion" - "Invasion", "There is no death", "Victory!", "Heroes" - "Scarlet sunsets". And of course "Alice".

    Thanks for the info. Not everyone liked it, but I’ll fill it on a flash drive.
    Of the latter, I really liked the song "Tank Attack" by Kalinkin. Here is an excellent video sequence for this song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Pl0HDmnmg
  24. certero
    24 August 2016 19: 45
    +1
    Quote: Kenneth
    I wonder where the myth was born that only women fought on 2. There was one female regiment on the 2, one on the front of the 2 and several dozen in fighter aircraft.

    Just women on Po-2, speaking in modern language - the most publicized topic.
    But the song sings about a specific air regiment where only women fought.
    By the way, as far as I know, such a military unit was a unique thing in WWII. No one had anything like it. Exactly like hundreds of female snipers in the spacecraft.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 25 August 2016 00: 48
      0
      Of course it was. I advise you to familiarize yourself.
      The female face of war: the history of female combat units
      http://russian7.ru/post/zhenskoe-lico-vojjny-istoriya-zhenskikh-bo/

  25. certero
    24 August 2016 19: 47
    +2
    Quote: Comrade Glebov
    "Sabaton" is a cosmopolitan group and does not "propagandize Soviet military history." They simply build on the dynamic and popular theme of war. They have a song that shows the winter war from the Finnish point of view, "white death" is kind of called. There are works on the theme of Napoleonic warriors.

    And for me, for example, it just impresses. But about - "does not propagandize" - I disagree. It is precisely what propagandizes and shows the most famous events of WWII for Western listeners. In the manner most accessible to a part of society.
  26. VDV1985
    VDV1985 24 August 2016 20: 16
    +2
    Because our so-called singers can only "chop cabbage" under plywood, and, following the example of Makarevich, shit on their homeland, so that they can sing in front of the banderlog. Bastards, in a word ...
  27. Douste
    Douste 24 August 2016 20: 56
    +1
    Listen to Alexei Matov.
  28. Disant
    Disant 24 August 2016 21: 36
    +1


    until 1943 - 588 air regiment, then - the 46th Guards.
    photo - Gelendzhik
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  30. Andrey77
    Andrey77 25 August 2016 01: 14
    0
    By the way, reading the memories of the Germans about the Eastern Front, in almost every one comes across a mention of a night bomb
    Oh, don't la-la. Visit Drabkin on iremember.ru They remember only when they (veterans of the Germans) are asked this question. "Sewing machine" - yes, we know. Is nervous. But for some reason no one was particularly afraid of her.
  31. certero
    25 August 2016 07: 21
    0
    Quote: Andrey77
    Of course it was. I advise you to familiarize yourself.
    The female face of war: the history of female combat units
    http://russian7.ru/post/zhenskoe-lico-vojjny-istoriya-zhenskikh-bo/

    I advise you to carefully read what I wrote. Your link refers to various periods of history, but I asked what is clear from the context, about WWII. By reference, the United States Women's Auxiliary Corps is only mentioned there. But nowhere is there any mention of his participation directly in the hostilities. Probably because he did not participate ...
    I hope you understand the difference. In the KA, it was precisely the combat women's units.
    Quote: Andrey77
    They remember only when they (the veterans of the Germans) are asked this question. "Sewing machine" - yes, we know. Is nervous. But for some reason no one was particularly afraid of her.

    I relied on Drabkin's memories. Whether they were afraid or not, almost everyone remembered the IL-2, unlike the "black death".
  32. Taoist
    Taoist 25 August 2016 12: 11
    +1
    not really a song ... but just takes it for a soul
  33. Taoist
    Taoist 25 August 2016 12: 13
    0
    - And also, by the same author ... Two of my favorite cities (in the first I live, in the second I served) - you probably can’t say better ...
  34. Taoist
    Taoist 25 August 2016 12: 16
    +2

    Well, how to forget Kalinkin ...
  35. Old warrior
    Old warrior 26 August 2016 15: 41
    +1
    Good songs: "Take us Suomi-beauty ..." and "Everything is good" (about Lake Khasan) from those pre-war ...

    Nobody shouted "banzai"
    Who was killed was silent.
    And who was wounded - he moaned
    And who managed, so he escaped ... good

    Prus ...
  36. Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 6 March 2022 02: 31
    +1
    The Sabaton (Armoured Boot) group is fond of military history. Almost all of their songs are about military history. By the way, the Russian musician - Radio Tapok wrote a song in the style of Sabaton, "Defense of Moscow" specifically said that this was a recognition of his passion for the Sabaton group. Sabaton listened to the song and ... included it in their album and said that they would collaborate again.
    By the way, IRON MAIDEN excelled in patriotic songs: "Trooper", "Aces High", "Tailgunner" for example. Trouper is a masterpiece. In the USA, the audience during concerts unfurls British Flags during this song ... But Aria, apart from "1100" and "The Ballad of an Old Russian Warrior", did not write anything :-(.