News of the domestic hypersonic program

At present, a lengthy program of research and creation of hypersonic technology is being implemented in our country. As part of this program, numerous scientific studies are conducted, the results of which are used to develop various projects. In the future, current work should lead to the emergence of new weapons systems with enhanced characteristics. Due to the high importance of new projects remain secret, because of which most of the details are not subject to disclosure. Nevertheless, representatives of the defense industry and the military still publish some data.

17 August, the Rambler News Service news agency published an interview with Boris Obnosov, general director of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation (KTRV). The head of the organization of the manufacturer of high-precision systems spoke about the approaches to the development and production of new products, current work and plans for the future. Among other topics discussed the creation of hypersonic systems. In this context, B. Obnosov spoke about the range of enterprises involved in the long-term program, as well as the existing achievements and plans.

First of all, the general director of KTRV noted that it is his organization that is the main executor of work under the hypersonic program. In addition, the general designer of the direction works in this corporation. At the same time, a significant number of other organizations and enterprises are involved in the work, and all research and development is carried out in accordance with the existing unifying program.

In the creation of hypersonic technology, KTRV collaborates with the Advanced Research Foundation. A large amount of work is carried out by organizations from the corporation, namely NPO Mashinostroeniya and MKB Raduga, which carry out the overall coordination of work. Also, Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation has established close cooperation with the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering.

Despite the established cooperation within the corporation and with third-party organizations, there are some problems. B. Obnosov complained that the financing of the hypersonic program does not correspond to the level that the present question deserves. Hypersonic theme requires fundamental and applied research, and also covers almost all areas of engineering. As a result, adequate funding is required to resolve all issues.

The head of KTRV also raised the issue of prospects for current research and design work. In his opinion, the result of the current program in the context of armaments can not even be discussed. If a rocket can fly in the atmosphere at a speed that is 7-12 times the speed of sound, the protection systems against such weapons will “weaken” and will not be able to intercept.

Nevertheless, according to B. Obnosov, such advantages of a military nature are not the main advantage of hypersonic technologies. The study and creation of such systems should be a catalyst for the development of the industry as a whole. In these works, groundwork is used in the field of materials science, onboard electronic systems, power plants, design systems, etc. All these areas, developed in the interests of the hypersonic program, will further have a positive effect on civilian industries. It is very difficult to overestimate such a contribution to the development of science and industry, as the Director General of KTRV believes.

The complexity of the hypersonic program, its impact on various industries, as well as the expected effect from the implementation of the planned projects, allows making very bold comparisons. B. Obnosov believes that the development of hypersonic flight speeds will be an event of the same level as the first launch of an artificial Earth satellite in October 1957 of the year.

Ongoing work is carried out in accordance with the existing schedule and planned out a little ahead. In response to a question about the orientation of the program, the head of the Tactical Missiles Corporation said that by the year 2020 it is planned to reach speeds of at least M = 6. In this case we will talk exclusively about domestic developments.

In the context of global trends B. Obnosov said that determining the achievements of foreign countries in the hypersonic industry is associated with some problems. A full analysis of the situation with foreign developments is associated with certain difficulties. First of all, the existing problems are due to the presence of a significant amount of false information that interferes with the analysis. The current situation is similar to that observed before the appearance of nuclear weapons. Initially, there was a mass of open information, but later, when the topic was taken seriously, all open publications disappeared.

In the current situation, according to the general director of KTRV, the situation looks a little different. In the context of hypersonic themes, there is a significant amount of information noise and “garbage”, which seriously complicates tracking the situation. Nevertheless, domestic experts are still trying to determine the veracity of new messages, which is required to monitor the progress of foreign countries.

B. Obnosov stated that Tactical Missiles and related enterprises have a certain reserve in the hypersonic direction. These achievements and experience allow us to expect that in the future, Russian industry, developing its projects, will not lag behind foreign countries.

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According to the available data, at least two or three projects of promising hypersonic systems suitable for use in the interests of the armed forces are currently being developed in our country. Since the end of the last decade, domestic enterprises, headed by the NPO Mashinostroenia, have been developing the Zirkon missile system and airballistic combat equipment for 4202 missiles. There is also a joint Russian-Indian project BrahMos-II. With the help of the products being developed, it is planned to re-equip various types of armed forces and combat arms with the aim of increasing their combat capability and impact potential.

According to open data, the Zircon project involves the development of a complex with a hypersonic missile suitable for hitting various ground and surface targets. The main objective of the project is to create a guided missile design capable of speeds up to 5-6 M. The range of the product, according to various estimates, can reach from 300 to 1000 km. It is assumed that the Zircon missile will be able to be used as part of land missile systems, as well as as part of the armament of promising and modernized naval ships fleet.

According to some unconfirmed data and assumptions, the Zircon project has already been brought to the stage of flight tests of prototypes. Whether this information corresponds to reality is unknown. The industry and the Ministry of Defense do not disclose such details of new projects.

The purpose of the project "4202", according to available data, is to create a promising military equipment for intercontinental ballistic missiles. This project proposes the development of a hypersonic aircraft carrier of a special warhead that can be used as a replacement for "traditional" warheads. Due to the ability to maneuver and high speed, such combat equipment should be a serious challenge to existing and promising anti-missile defenses.

The development of the project "4202" began no later than the end of the last decade, and in some sources it is assumed that the first tests of this technology took place in the 2004 year. To date, there have been references to the testing of 4202 products along with ballistic missiles in various media. Some of these messages are not supported by other sources. Officials also do not confirm or refute the data on the tests of the new system.

There is also a joint Russian-Indian project of the BrahMos-II guided missile, which, according to various estimates, may involve the development of a product with hypersonic flight speed. Back in 2008, both parties involved in the development of the BrahMos project identified a list of further work. It was proposed to develop a rocket with a flight speed of up to 5-7 M. In the future, some design work was carried out, and a flying laboratory was tested, designed to work out various units and technologies.

At the Aero India 2013 exhibition for the first time, a model of a promising BrahMos-II rocket was shown, the characteristic appearance of which spoke of the possibility of flying at hypersonic speeds. According to reports, the development of the BrahMos-2 project is still ongoing. Tests of promising weapons based on the latest technologies should begin in the foreseeable future. After completing the checks and improvements, the issue of adopting the complex for service will be decided.

According to available data, to date, the domestic hypersonic program has achieved some success. The development of a promising direction continues, resulting in the emergence of new systems with higher performance. So, by the end of the current decade, it is planned to create equipment capable of speeding up to 6-7 M. Then, the emergence of new systems of this class, suitable for use by the armed forces, is possible.


Interview B. Obnosova:
https://rns.online/interviews/Glava-KTRV-ob-operatsii-v-Sirii-giperzvuke-i-oruzhii-dlya-dronov-2016-08-17/

Materials used:
http://interfax.ru/
https://lenta.ru/
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-718.html

Comments

[valent45]

In fact, this is a technological breakthrough in overcoming enemy air defense systems.

[arkadiyssk]

It doesn’t fit in one line - on the one hand, they promise Zircon in 2020, they reconstruct the carrier under it in full swing and report on successful trials, on the other hand they acknowledge that money is needed for basic research (i.e., they also understand the theory of hypersound, not practice).

[iliya87]

4,5-6 in the USSR, the rocket was already flying (though it didn’t maneuver)
Therefore, now with certain modifications 5-7 maneuvering is being designed and tests have already been carried out on it and there are funds for this. And the article says that the lack of funds goes on advanced technology in 7-12 years and the development of related developments in related fields. What doesn't fit together?
Now it’s a little tough with money in the country, of course, decisions are more practical. The management is confident that this Zircon program is guaranteed to be brought to production and there are means and opportunities, it is brought to it. As they say, a rocket is needed yesterday. And there we will see ...

[Nitarius]

the fact that everyone pulls it is PLUS .. a good level of movement!

[Mole]

Where's the news? It seems that all this has already been written, and to exaggerate "unconfirmed data" is to create that noise that interferes with the analysis of the work done.

[Tatar-in]

The most important thing is that the work would really be carried out, and there would be results, most importantly in the metal. And not a paper option or worse cut.

[FID]

Has anyone in the USSR heard anything about the development of secret types of weapons ??? And now, the director of KTRV, talks about the developments .... Nonsense, forgive me ....

[Inok10]

Has anyone in the USSR heard anything about the development of secret types of weapons ??? And now, the director of KTRV, talks about the developments .... Nonsense, forgive me ....

... he didn’t say anything criminal ... MPDITR requirements were met ... he walked around and around ... burst into tears that they give little money ... that’s the whole story ...

[gridasov]

Leading and sober-minded scientists feel with their gut that a complex of fundamental principles is needed to solve this problem. Obnosov correctly sees that the correct directions for solving the problem will affect all the achievements of science and technology. However !!! Woz and now there. There is not a single fundamental solution either in the analysis of physical processes occurring under such conditions, and therefore there are no models for solving the problem in a technical form.
To analyze highly dynamic and complex physical processes, fundamentally new mathematical methods are needed, which are based on solutions that have not been previously applied and remained inaccessible. Firstly, it is a breakthrough in number theory and the use of a constant value function of a number. It is necessary to use the properties of numbers, which allow you to build a model of mathematical space with all variations of the processes. which can occur in it at all levels of the dynamics of relative interactions. This can only be done on the new number function.
We offer two variants of power plants, the concepts of which are modeled on, and above all, the organization of a new physical process in the form of its new sequential stages as algorithms. These are fundamentally new devices in the form of turbines with dramatically increased rotor speeds. The key decision in organizing the operation of a new such turbine is its ability to achieve the highest flow density. A method that has not been used before and remains unused with all its simplicity and obviousness. The ability to overcome the current destruction thresholds for both supports and "blades" simultaneously makes it possible to use turbines in different flight environments on an expanded scale of rotor rotation capabilities. In the same context of organizing a physical process, a turbine is positioned without rotating parts, but with the ability to organize processes in a controlled mode at ultra-high flight speeds.
Since all processes are organized based on and analysis of email. magnetic processes and their transformation, then the materials can be used completely ordinary and not expensive.
I would like to recall that most of the fundamental decisions, if not all, were made in the minds of individuals and scientists. To do this, you do not need to be a member of the workforce of large and overloaded administrators with problems of design bureaus and institutions, which do not always contribute to the search for optimal solutions.

[Rus2012]

Quote: gridasov

There is not a single fundamental solution either in the analysis of the physical processes occurring under such conditions, and therefore there are no models for solving the problem in a technical form.

... who told you that?

I dare to assert that there are both mathematical models of gas-dynamic processes (3-dimensional calculation of the scramjet tract), including in the binding of chemical processes. Plus calculations with the imposition of intensifying processes (plasma, microwave, laser ...). Moreover, the calculations "converge" with high accuracy with the experimental data of bench and field tests of objects. Matmodels were created and are being improved already in applied research institutes with the involvement of academic research institutes (NIIVT, Moscow State University ...)
Example - http://engine.aviaport.ru/issues/06/page30.html

What is not - materials that can work for a relatively long time under given conditions ...

[gridasov]

First, I do not make references to others and always set forth the product of my own reasoning. Therefore, again, firstly, the three-dimensionality of the models of gas-dynamic processes is itself a deep defect in itself. Why? Because the analysis is carried out only a certain, specific, we will speak of space. Without interconnection with those spaces that are in this interconnection. Therefore, in order to combine these local and particular in the analysis of space, it is necessary to consider another coordinate system. In general, this is a four-dimensional coordinate system. This time! Secondly, the computers we use are built on the integrated work of processors that cannot reproduce not only all processes that occur in reality, but cannot reproduce their full relationship. This means that in the creation and formation of the code, it is necessary to move from the binary code to the mathematical code on all numbers of the series. Then the processors can be replaced by the function of the mathematical model itself, rather than processors. Therefore, you correctly say that you can create a model maximally approximate in its particular solution to its real position and corresponding experimental experience. But! You cannot create an algorithm for these processes to keep it in control both in potential and in direction.

[FID]

So ... nothing is clear (to a simple layman) and nothing is known (to the researcher), as I understand it?

[gridasov]

On the contrary! A sufficient body of information has been collected, which at the modern level allows us to draw concrete conclusions about the fact that the very method of analyzing physical phenomena and processes is also just as transformable, which will lead to the epoch of our civilization. Moreover, it is necessary! to say that without a foundation that would constitute the current level of knowledge, there would be no breakthrough further into the future. So, the question is who will be the first to expose this array of information collected over the entire history of human existence, in such a way as to highlight the key areas of development in the future and their optimal solutions.

[alexej123]

You misunderstood, the main message of gridasov is about everything and nothing. In certain circles it sounds like "Good show-off - the same grandmas". The main obstacle holding back the technological breakthrough is the friction force. They will find a way to reduce or neutralize it, then YES, the prospects are huge. But this was taught even in the Soviet technical school. And comrade gridasov is just trying to be smart.

[gridasov]

You see, but what you call friction force can be considered magnetic fluxes of force. Then everything becomes more and more clear and obvious. Of course, if there is no basic knowledge of how to consider and use this technique, then it seems to be -PONT. However, I am a man who is not burdened with an ailment to show off, so say anything you like, but this does not limit me in my statements. In general, those who switch to a personality are wasting time. It would be better to talk more about the case. I am ready to consider your arguments, but they simply do not exist

[FID]

[quote] [/ quote] You see, but what you call friction force can be considered as magnetic force flows

And what is "magnetic flux"? Weak, electroweak or ... interaction? "Force flow" - there can be no such definition, I beg your pardon, if we talk about physics ...

[alexej123]

Something new, the friction of the air against the surface of the aircraft is a magnetic force flow, "strong". You are the one showing off.

[gridasov]

Let me add that if the models you are talking about work, then you would see obvious, in our human perception, fundamental errors that determine the inefficiency of all turbine exclusions. Therefore, scientists do not see the reasons why there is a whole complex of insurmountable physical phenomena that are observed in turbines

[silver_roman]

I will recommend the author to write thesis, i.e. less water because there is little useful information in the article (one that has not yet been announced), and water is just like in a freshman year!

[Boa kaa]

there is little useful information in the article (one that has not yet been announced),

A few words, with your permission.
1. Hypersound storm in several directions:
- take the GZO to the maximum discharged space, to a height of about 40 m;
- when driving in the atmosphere, "add lubricant" between the aircraft body and the atmosphere. Ours use cold plasma generators. Infa slipped that the T-50 will fly supersonic in a cocoon of cold plasma.
- materials for GZO reached the level of nano design. Ceramics with particularly heat-resistant properties are "molded" literally atomically.
- speed has particularly influenced the "brains" of products. On board one "product", only in the "head" 6 (!) Specialized on-board computers. At the same time, the element base is ours. And it is heat resistant!
2. GZO will entail serious changes in tactics and operational art.
- GZ BB (product 4202) will surely break through the missile defense system for one simple reason: it is impossible (at the modern level, without an aircraft) to get into a "pancake", each time bouncing off the dense layers of the atmosphere and leaving on a new trajectory until the head decides it's time to dive for the target.
- carriers of SGA acquire the features of a "strategic" threat to the forces of the opposing side. Hence, the task is to ensure the combat stability of the carrier, the necessary conditions for the use of GZO for the assigned purposes.
- battle formations will undergo major changes (separation and combat formation of forces, positions of carriers of GZO in them).
3. He will rise to his full height and the problem of protecting one’s forces from enemy state defense orders.
I don’t know how things are with active systems, but the fact that once in a heterogeneous environment (denser / rarer) the aircraft will suffer from such enormous forces that it is unlikely to remain intact. (Remember our developments on plasmoids in the missile defense / air defense system of the 90s).
4. To fall behind in this race is deadly.
The Yankees are seriously addressing the issue of Global Instant Impact.
GZO is an ideal weapon for him.
(Thinking out loud.)
Best regards,

[11 black]

KAA boa - could you drop here a link to a cold plasma source for T-50? Sincerely.

[Boa kaa]

1. Former Suvorovite (cadet). There is such a thing as "The Fellowship of the Ring", so OBS.
2. Infa flashed in foreign media, in an article devoted to the analysis of the "+/-" sides of the T-50. It said that ours were working on the PAK TA supersonic cruising speed using GHP.
3. There will be time, look at the links:
1. http://www.info-rm.com/ru/interview/interview_detail.php?ID=15202
2. http://bse.ewreka.ru/i48243/
3. http://tech-db.istc.ru/ISTC/sc.nsf/html/projects.htm?open&id=0469&lang=ru
4. http://www.aeronautics.ru/plasmamain.htm
5. http://www.aeronautics.ru/plasma01.htm
6. http://pda.lenta.ru/news/2006/02/09/air/:

And so - "I did not see anything, did not hear, did not say anything to anyone"!

[Inok10]

Tsata: Boa KAA

And so - "I did not see anything, did not hear, did not say anything to anyone"!

... it has long been said as early as 20 years ago ... on 3M25 "Meteorite" work was carried out in the 80s in the USSR ...

The use of radar absorbing materials and coatings, as well as special electronic installation ensured a decrease in the effective scattering surface (EPR) of the rocket by two to three orders of magnitude depending on the wavelength of the irradiating radar. Source: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/meteorit/meteorit.shtml

... and from there:

The development of the electronic installation was carried out by the Research Institute of Thermal Processes under the supervision of Vitaly Ievlev, corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences. The installation was created and passed a full range of bench and field flight tests. During flight tests of the Meteorite rocket, when the electronic installation was turned on, airborne radar indicators showed a decrease in the brightness of the target’s mark, unstable tracking and disappearance of the mark.

... everything is New, it is a well-preserved Old ...

[xtur]

I could not open any of these links, the browser said that all links were missing :-(

[gridasov]

FID,
FID,
You are absolutely correct and probably the only one who paid substantive attention to this. Magnetic force flux is a complex of dynamically and systemically changing aggregate mathematically defined concepts, namely a vector and its direction, dimension, and polarization. A stream consists of an array of such transformations at each point and conjugate points. Therefore, this array of all transformations is necessary and can be subjected to analysis, like a local space, by numerical, geometric and physical basic definitions. Moreover, contiguous local spaces, etc., etc. can also be analyzed, but in principle everything is absolutely accurate and definite so that you can consider any phratic space as interconnected.

[FID]

I apologize, but the vector is the direction ...

[gridasov]

Yes, but a vector expressed by an abstract line and a vector expressed by an algorithm of numbers, in addition to describing the direction, but also describing its "wave" properties, again by numbers and in the form of extrema and amplitude and frequency. But also not only descriptions of waves in a plane, but also in all system coordinate axes. If you notice, we never go beyond the simplest mathematical tools in the form of a number.

[FID]

So is it a matrix or tensor ...

[gridasov]

A matrix, a scale invariant structure, a matroid are like particular properties embodied in what we are talking about. The main thing is that it is a system that in its structure is capable of embodying the properties of dynamics not on abstract definitions of speed or anything else, but as a derivative of the properties of numbers built in the system.

[gridasov]

The main tensor operations are addition and this is the fundamental difference between them and our methodology, which considers exactly the properties of the numbers we are talking about and allow us to use the same tensor, again, as a particular solution or their specific potential. If you notice, then all systems, including tensors, work and it is impossible to deny them in any case, but each by itself. At the same time, it is not possible to combine all these systems into such a system where each would have its own manifestation. Therefore, only on the new properties of numbers can these unifying problems be solved.

[Vadim237]

In India, a hypersonic passenger aircraft is already being developed, and the idea of ​​a hypersonic delivery container is best suited for missiles - when an ordinary missile flies to the destination area in a special transport launch hypersonic container - a "rocket in a rocket" - the container performs the function of fast delivery.

[gridasov]

It is completely useless to discuss on this Internet site about a topic that requires a set of fundamental decisions. I'm not talking about the discovery, they are implemented. The problem is that there is no one to share. Elementary questions of mathematics remain inaccessible to understanding by leading scientists. who are entrusted with carrying out grandiose projects. Really no one sees that using only the action of numbers plus zero, any model of an algebraic equation is constructed. In addition to the equations and on the basis of which the formulas for the description of physical processes are created, it is possible to create equations even more incredible in their construction, but which will always remain only a particular mathematical solution. And in whatever combination of numbers we put in these equations, we always get a mathematical sequence that does not make it possible to understand the essence of the transformable process. It will never be possible to see the dynamics of a process in its mathematical expression, which means that it will be impossible to understand, and most importantly, describe highly dynamic and complex physical transformations. To calculate every point of the analyzed space, then there will not be enough of any number of the most high-performance computers. Therefore, to talk about a positive experiment in flight space, which cannot be carried out in near-Earth space, is completely illogical. It is only possible to carry out the creation of a model in full compliance with its conditions in which it will fly. There is simply no other way. At the present level, there is all the initial data in order to connect all known physical phenomena and effects together and build algorithms for their transformation both in their individual development and in all aggregate relationships. By the way, the article and posts are old and I consider it unproductive to continue participating in discussions. Good luck to everyone and peace. Unfortunately, all the premises for a full-scale war are already obvious and present.