More than 48 billion rubles will be allocated for the development of the Russian defense industry

This year, Russian defense companies involved in the fulfillment of the defense order will receive state guarantees worth more than 48 billion rubles, according to RIA News with reference to the website of legal information.

"To provide in 2016 year in accordance with the Rules for granting state guarantees of the Russian Federation for loans attracted by organizations of the military-industrial complex for the purpose of fulfilling the state defense order ... state guarantees of the Russian Federation according to the list according to the annex," the government said.

From the application it follows that guarantees will be provided “The State Space Research and Production Center named after MV Khrunicheva, Production-technical enterprise "Granit", helicopter plant "Rostvertol", United Shipbuilding Corporation, Scientific-Production Corporation "Irkut", as well as the Corporation "Tactical Missile Armament".

The total amount of state guarantees will be 48,3 billion rubles.

Comments

[Banishing liberoids]

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

[Monos]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

Yes, everyone will get there. This is not "real" money. This is the State. warranty. Another thing: how will it be spent? But, they say, now the control is very tight.

[SRC P-15]

As I understand it, under these state guarantees, banks will give loans to defense industry enterprises. And each bank will try to grab a piece of its own by charging interest on this loan.

[dvina71]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

As I understand,

You do not understand correctly. The military-industrial complex is not credited to each bank. In most cases, this is VTB, Sberbank.
In fact, these are state-owned banks, especially VTB.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: dvina71

You do not understand correctly. The military-industrial complex is not credited to each bank. In most cases, this is VTB, Sberbank.
In fact, these are state-owned banks, especially VTB.

And you want to say that these "state banks" will not get their percentage on this?

[cniza]

The main thing is that funds are allocated, and then it depends on the leadership of the military-industrial complex and the capabilities of the arms market, both external and internal.

[weksha50]

Quote: dvina71

In fact, these are state-owned banks, especially VTB.

Um ... I also thought so until some time when I heard this definition: "Joint-stock company (bank) with state participation" ...

Sber - is not suitable, since there, on the part of the state, a major shareholder (50% + 1 share) is the Bank of Russia, that is, the Central Bank ...
We have already broken a lot of copies on the topic of who actually owns this "Bank of Russia" and for whom it works ...

It remains VTB, in which the main shareholder is the Federal Property Management Agency of Russia ...

[weksha50]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

As I understand it, under these state guarantees, banks will give loans to defense industry enterprises. And each bank will try to grab a piece of its own by charging interest on this loan.

Hmm ... Banks live off loans ... And these huge loans will be allowed to provide a limited, limited number of reliable banks for the defense industry ... Banks will still fight among themselves for receiving these orders, loan agreements ... And control over they will build, with certain conditions on the part of the state ...

And state guarantees indicate only the fact that the state guarantees the return by the enterprises of the military-industrial complex to the banks of these credit loans ...

[SRC P-15]

Quote: weksha50

And state guarantees indicate only the fact that the state guarantees the return by the enterprises of the military-industrial complex to the banks of these credit loans ...

So I wrote about the same below Romanov.

[dmi.pris1]

But it’s interesting, last year, how much did these guarantees amount to? Here’s an estimate of how effective it is.

Quote: Monos

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

Yes, everyone will get there. This is not "real" money. This is the State. warranty. Another thing: how will it be spent? But, they say, now the control is very tight.

[kepmor]

Quote: Monos

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

Yes, everyone will get there. This is not "real" money. This is the State. warranty. Another thing: how will it be spent? But, they say, now the control is very tight.

Monos, dear!
"They say that chickens are milked" - show us, the ignorant, at least one example of "very tight" control and preferably with landings ... something never comes to mind!
Well, they started about 30 criminal cases on "Vostochny", and how many will actually go to court ... 2-3 at best, and then with suspended sentences and ridiculous fines!

[Monos]

Quote: kepmor

Monos, dear! "They say that chickens are milked" - show us, the ignorant, at least one example of "very tight" control and preferably with landings ... something never comes to mind! Well, about 30 criminal cases were brought up against " Vostochny ", and how many will actually reach the court ... 2-3 at best, and then with suspended sentences and ridiculous fines!

I judge the strengthening of control over the movement of money from personal experience. I won't prove anything, I'm sorry. These are disputes from the category of "kitchen". I see no prospects for such a discussion.

Thanks for the amendment. It happens.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

I understand that this is not money for enterprises, but guarantees for which they (enterprises) will be credited ..? State Guarantee.

[rkkasa xnumx]

And one more - 48 billion rubles, for the defense industry - is it a lot or a little?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: rkkasa 81

And one more - 48 billion rubles, for the defense industry - is it a lot or a little?

If for modernization, then not a little.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

Only one question - how much of this money with a guarantee will go to defense enterprises ???

All! Do you even understand what state guarantees are or if you just need to write something

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do you understand what state guarantees are?

It’s interesting, but I understand the state guarantees correctly: is it when an enterprise taking a loan under state guarantees cannot pay for this loan, then in this case the state pays the bank for it?

[Pitot]

Let's hope that more ....

[sowjetmensch]

48 billion on state guarantees for the defense industry is good, but why doesn’t a tenth of this amount be allocated for state guarantee, for example, of agriculture, which suffers much more from credit, and of other industries?
On the other hand, over the past year, the volume of Central Bank investments in US Treasures has grown by almost $ 20 billion, or more than a trillion rubles ...

[Rozmyssel]

43ml. for 16 years or for how long, or even just 43 mln?

[Mountain shooter]

These are bank guarantees, not money! Having received such a guarantee, the company "goes" to the bank and receives a loan. At interest, and must be returned. Such guarantees only simplify the procedure for obtaining a loan, which is very difficult in our banks (due to the absence of the company's securities in circulation, which are usually pledged against a loan). Therefore, "saves" like "How much of that money will reach the enterprise?" - exactly as much as they receive the loan. And they receive not a loan, but a "Credit Line" in order to minimize interest payments.

[Verdun]

Modernization of the defense industry is good. But when will they (and will they even be) engaged in the development and modernization of the rest of the industry? Indeed, the defense industry does not exist in a vacuum. It should collaborate with thousands of suppliers of materials and components that are not weapons manufacturing enterprises. For example, transport supply plays a significant role in the defense industry. Alas, the development of the transport network in the country can hardly be considered satisfactory. Where is the elemental base vital for creating modern electronic systems? What about optical instrumentation? What is the situation, finally, in the engine industry, which has become a stumbling block for the development of the Navy? Industry must develop harmoniously. To develop one of its sectors, spitting on others, is a vicious path leading to nowhere.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

"How much of that money will go to the enterprise?" - exactly as much as they receive the loan. And they receive not a loan, but a "Credit Line" in order to minimize interest payments.

On the fifth attempt, the Exorcist seems to have mastered the essence of the concept of "state guarantee", It is only dad or mom who gives money without immediate return, and then in the hope that later in old age the child will not forget them. (No offense, don't look for enemies here).
The opportunity to repay loans from the state in 2015 for the total amount of 265 billions of rubles was provided to 26 by the enterprises of the military-industrial complex (MIC).

[Grim Reaper]

48 wooden ??? Nda .. or I didn’t understand something or one of the two.

[VEK2021]

You need to throw money into normal, useful enterprises that already bring the right products. Anything will be the result.

[Grim Reaper]

Can not understand anything. What are "guarantees", will they go to enviromental or production. However, there and there is a drop in the sea.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: VEK2021

You need to throw money into normal, useful enterprises that already bring the right products. Anything will be the result.

IMHO, for now money needs to be invested in fundamental science in no less amount, or in twenty years we’ll stay with batons against tanks.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: SRC P-15

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do you understand what state guarantees are?

It’s interesting, but I understand the state guarantees correctly: is it when an enterprise taking a loan under state guarantees cannot pay for this loan, then in this case the state pays the bank for it?

I suspect that no one is paying the debt, and that the company is taking up the hands in a queue ....

[Vladimir 1964]

Cool! The information, of course, is interesting, but it is presented sparingly and not informative. But how many "plus and minus signs" appear, you look and new marshals will appear. I laugh, of course, but the "speculation" of empty topics pins. Empty precisely because in our country, the promises of our government are worth exactly as much as the government itself. Exactly ZERO.

[Koshak]

Quote: SRC P-15

And you want to say that these "state banks" will not get their percentage on this?

Well, it began: "everything is lost", "they will destroy everything." Let's not allocate anything to anyone - the money will be whole.

[Zomanus]

That's right, why give the defense to commercial banks,
which inadvertently and can go bankrupt.