Anniversary of the Emergency Committee: the story of the total betrayal of the people by the political elite

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Anniversary of the Emergency Committee: the story of the total betrayal of the people by the political elite


The 25th anniversary of the GKChP events is an important milestone that allows us to look at them taking into account the elapsed time. Like the Kornilov rebellion of 1917, they determined the irreversibility of the collapse of the former historical statehood. The signing of the essentially destructive, confederate, Union Treaty, scheduled for August 20, was disrupted, which turned out to be the greatest of evils; August’s “triumphs” prevented its resumption, which went much further: they used the “GKChP factor” as a good reason for the destruction of the Soviet state. “Three days of the Great Game” was called those days by the ex-Minister of Press and Information Mikhail Poltoranin, who announced mass protests against the policies of both Gorbachev and Yeltsin, tens of thousands of letters and resolutions of regional party committees. “At the meetings they told me in person: at the March referendum, the majority voted in favor of preserving the USSR! And Gorbachev and Yeltsin are fooling us with strange projects of union treaties, leading the country to disaster. ” “An extraordinary congress would be the last for Gorbachev and his team. Therefore, it is impossible to prevent its convocation, - Poltoranin reveals the mechanisms of August-91. - The nomenclature intrigues on which Gorbachev is a master were useless. Party lower classes had nothing to lose in the context of the disaster. There was only one thing left - to urgently liquidate the party itself! There were no official reasons for outlawing the CPSU. It needed a reason. A large-scale provocation, a big squiggle, as Boris Nikolayevich used to say, to slam the party, and at the same time identify opponents of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin ligament, ”the closest associate of the first Russian president pointed to his hints of a possible emergency development, voiced a few days before the Emergency Committee (http: //www.kp.ru/daily/25738.3/2726169/).
Yeltsin, Poltoranin testifies, knew everything beforehand, but did not trust Gorbachev; Gorbachev, who did not trust Yeltsin or declare himself “acting” Federal President Gennady Yanaev, knew this as well. From a statement published only after the defeat of the State Emergency Committee of Gorbachev from 20 of August 1991 of the year, on the draft of which the Secretary General’s own handled “I bring to the attention of the Congress of People's Deputies and the Supreme Soviet of the USSR”: “... 3. Please convey to Comrade Lukyanov my demand for the urgent convocation of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR and the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR to consider the current situation ... ”(Sazonov AA Who and how destroyed the USSR. Archival documents. - Moscow: ISPI RAS, 2010. S. 137).



Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR Anatoly Lukyanov did not comply with this instruction, hiding behind the "illness" on vacation in Valdai (many high-ranking officials immediately "got sick" in those days). The Supreme Council, which condemned the State Emergency Committee, met after the defeat of the CPSU, 29 August; The congress is only 2 of September, in fact, only to authorize its own dissolution, which preceded the December destruction of the USSR. It is significant that the first to whom Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich 8 of December 1991 of the year reported that “the USSR ceased to exist” turned out to be ... US President George Bush Sr.

There is very few people who are aware of the historical parallel: the destruction of the Union was practically timed to the 50 anniversary of the first triumph of the Red Army in the Great Patriotic War - its counteroffensive near Moscow, which crossed out Hitler’s “Barbarossa’s plan”. Revenge? Or a coincidence? Maybe…
“Having accused the leadership of the CPSU in the inability to resist the GKChPistam, MS Gorbachev declared that he was relieving himself of the duties of General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU and recommended that the Central Committee dissolve itself, ”testifies Anatoly Sazonov, at that time deputy head of the Presidential Administration of the USSR. “It was clear that the forces hostile to the CPSU would take advantage of Gorbachev’s refusal ... On someone’s evil will, an organized crowd was gathered around the Central Committee building on Old Square, threatening to leave the building ... Their personal belongings were subjected to an offensive inspection. ... All day in the office of MS Gorbachev consulted V.A. Medvedev, A.N. Yakovlev, S.S. Shatalin, E.A. Shevardnadze and others. During the break, I went up to the waiting room and talked with V.A. Medvedev.

- Vadim Andreevich, it is impossible to declare the dissolution of the Central Committee, this will immediately bring trouble to millions of ordinary Communists. What does shepherds, milkmaids, workers, teachers, who are not directly responsible for the mistakes of the top leadership of the CPSU.

- You know, Anatoly Alexandrovich, there is no other way out.

- Then it is better to gather the Central Committee Plenum, let Mikhail Sergeyevich announce his resignation. The plenum will elect a new leadership, and the party reform processes, which everyone is waiting for, will finally begin. This is a more honest way.

“Everything is more complicated,” Vadim Andreevich did not dwell on this topic further ... ”(Ibid. S. 145).

What kind of "topic" did not the "member" of the Politburo, the secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, the approximate "Gorbachev" Vadim Medvedev not "spread"?

And why, together with the party leadership, the topic of the dissolution of the Central Committee was discussed by Academician Shatalin? Perhaps because it was under his leadership, starting from the 80's, first at the All-Union Scientific Research Institute for System Research (VNIISI), and then at the Institute of Economics and Forecasting of the Scientific and Technical Research Academy of the USSR Academy of Sciences, that the notorious “team of reformers” headed by Gaidar and Chubais came together? The collapse of the Soviet Union, which the President of Russia V.V. Putin rightly called "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe", planned in advance. And this project was carried out under the guise of the structures of the Club of Rome, primarily the International Institute for Applied Systems Research (IIASA) in Vienna, the actual branch of which was VNIISI. This will be written much later by the director of this branch, Jermen Gvishiani. And it is recognized that his father-in-law, the long-term Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR A.N. Kosygin, contributed in every way to the implementation of this project (Club of Rome. History of creation, selected reports and speeches, official materials / Edited by D.M. Gvishiani et al. M .: URSS, 1997. S. 32-35). Let us not forget that the formula for “convergence”, which masked this plan to eliminate the world socialist system and a single Soviet country, was invented by none other than the fierce anti-communist and Russophobe Brzezinski.

Let's go back to the tragic August days of 1991. The talking point from the statement of the President of the USSR and the top leaders of the Union republics is a photocopy of an undated draft, dotted with marks, with nine signatures from 15-ti (Sazonov AA, S. 147-149). "To ask the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR to support the Appeal of the Union Republics to the UN to recognize them as subjects of international law and to consider their membership in this organization." In this form, this 7-th item and migrated to the published version of the document (Izvestia, Moscow evening edition, 1991. September 2, http://www.gorby.ru/userfiles/file/zayavlenie_prezidenta_sssr_i_vysshih.pdf). “The document was simple, but due to the fact that it not only affected, but in fact demanded the breaking of the existing political system and its governing bodies for decades, many leaders of the Union republics had more and more new comments, which they formulated at the meeting and at night in hotels. Thus, the proposals of Russia and Ukraine were made to the text only in the morning (September 2. - Auth.), At the same time the signatures of B.N. Yeltsin, L.M. Kravchuk ", - specifies Anatoly Sazonov (Sazonov AA, S. 146).
So when did the USSR disappear, in fact, in reality, in December or after all in August 1991 of the year? And in December, having combined with the anniversary of our sacred historical date, simply ritually finished off? Is there any other analogue in the history of such a total and unprecedented treachery of the people by their own political elite, of course, except for February 1917 of the year?

We return to the ill-fated statement of Gorbachev and the leaders of the Union republics. “As agreed the day before, Nursultan Abishevich Nazarbayev read out ... The application and suggested voting for this document. Some deputies concluded that this meant the end of the Congress and the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, and tried to speak. But the presiding judge I. Laptev did not give time for speeches and proposed to proceed to the discussion of the documents proposed in the delegations. Despite shouts from the audience: “Betrayal!”, “Conspiracy!”, - the deputies dispersed in their delegations. It was possible to judge what happened at the meetings of the people's deputies from the republics by the surges of emotional speeches and the proposals of many deputies at the afternoon session of the Congress in the Kremlin Palace of Congresses. Perhaps the most characteristic mood of the deputies manifested itself in 11 in the morning hours in the Great Hall of the House of Soviets of the RSFSR. V.B. Isakov in his book “Dismemberment” quotes from the transcript of the meeting.

A. Sobchak: “The preservation of the existing allied structures is a continuation of the coup”.

S. Stankevich: “There is no union, and it cannot be reanimated.”

There were voices of deputies in defense of the USSR and the Constitution of the USSR, but they were few. Among them was the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Alexy II, who said: “The destruction of the Union is dangerous. It is necessary to sign the Union Treaty as soon as possible. ” The majority voted for the statement read by N. Nazarbayev at the morning meeting and the proposal to “leave the Congress” to all deputies from the RSFSR, if deputies from other republics do not support such a statement ”(Ibid. S. 153).

So who carried out the coup?

For three days, the author of these lines, who observed the August orgy from the windows of a military establishment in the center of the capital, and therefore felt well the bare nerve of those events and then, and even more so over the years, it was obvious that the participants in the coup were not only the State Emergency Committee, but also Gorbachev and Yeltsin his team of power-hungry usurpers, and "appanage princes" from the union republics. And, of course, a member of the Politburo and secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, the “main ideologist” of the party and part-time intern at Columbia University (USA) Alexander Yakovlev, whom A. Sazonov characterizes as “getting to the highest political authority to fight against the CPSU”. According to his testimony, Yakovlev later admitted: “After the 20th Congress, we often discussed the problems of democratization of the country and society in the super-narrow circle of our closest friends and like-minded people. They chose a simple as a sledgehammer method of promoting the "ideas" of the late Lenin. It was necessary to isolate clearly, clearly and distinctly the phenomenon of Bolshevism, separating it from Marxism of the last century. And so they talked tirelessly about the “genius” of the late Lenin, about the need to return to the Leninist “plan for building socialism” through cooperation, through state capitalism, etc. ... Developed (of course, verbally) the following plan: Lenin's authority to strike at Stalin, at Stalinism. And then, if successful, Plekhanov and Social-Democracy beat Lenin, liberalism and “moral socialism” - revolutionism in general ... ”(ibid. S. 187).

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Let us return in conclusion to the parallels of the “putsch” of the State Emergency Committee with the Kornilov revolt, which finally brought down the Russian Empire, which in the first half of 1917, like the Soviet Union 1990-1991, was almost completely “dismantled” by the “sovereign parade”. As the American historian Robert Worth shows, behind the back of Kornilov were the British: Minister of the Military Cabinet, Lord Milner, and the head of the military mission, General Knox. The British government officially demanded that Kerensky come to an agreement with Kornilov. Against this background, scam artists with large sums of money came to the fore, claiming key positions in the “future Kornilov government” (Worth R. Antanta and the Russian revolution. Russia at a turning point in history. 1917-1918. M .: Tsentrpoligraf, 2006. S. 135- 148).

From the totality of the above facts, the author has no reason to believe that in August 1991, everything happened differently. With only one difference. The Bolsheviks, picking up power in October, which was lying in the mud, managed to save and consolidate the country. Well, Yeltsin's "reformers" did the opposite: having received a rich inheritance, in a matter of years they brought it down and squandered it, handing out the remnants to unclean hands.

Years will pass, and in the history books of the coming times, August 1991 of the year will receive the grade it deserves. This is a competently organized grandiose provocation with the aim of liquidating the country and including the republics of the former USSR into the periphery of the “dependent capitalism” of the global world-system, built in the clan interests of the oligarchy of the leading Western countries.
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  1. +7
    August 21 2016
    This article is not the first to explain the betrayal, the destruction of the country. The feeling is that the next round of the betrayal begun is possible. In any case, the character traitors now seem to be much larger than before.
    1. +3
      August 21 2016
      But the betrayal did not stop even for a moment, if you open your eyes and turn on your brain - it will become obvious. But we are not in a lesson for a fairy tale about the naked king. But ahead of the elections, which may be a chance for a healthy country.
      1. +1
        August 21 2016
        Evgeny, why did you decide that you would be offered any reasonable alternative options in the elections? The power is in the hands of big business and they will decide who will be at the helm for us. 100% And this is not only with us, it’s just that in the West everything is under the control of the United States and more reminded elections. In the West, a huge difference in party rates is visible at first, and then everything (settles down) is the same as before the elections.
        1. +5
          August 21 2016
          Nobody will offer us, except for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (so far she is not in that state yet to become attractive to us, but having supported her in the elections, her leadership of young and principled people can later be updated). If we remain silent, the thieves from EP will again gain a majority in the Duma and the liberal power will only gain strength).
          Therefore, only an active position of the people and a massive vote for the Communists (and it would be better for a united front of patriotic forces) can change the situation for the better.
          And block the road to a new round of privatization.
          1. +3
            August 21 2016
            Quote: NordUral
            Nobody will offer us, except for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (so far she is not in that state yet to become attractive to us, but having supported her in the elections, her leadership of young and principled people can later be updated)

            - recalls the offer to buy a heavily pinned Lada in order to make Ferrari from it, no? wink
            - and in general - everything around is flogged and flogged, and only the Communist Party (for which there is really no real business) - well, just a sweetheart ...

            Meanwhile, under the rule of "thieves and robbers", these funny things happen ... for example Yes

            1. 0
              August 21 2016
              Cat Man Null Delivered a plus. A test link, only confuses the line (30.1 Moscow-City International Business Center). No.
            2. 0
              August 21 2016



              A particularly cool achievement: a 462 meter high skyscraper in St. Petersburg, the future location of the official headquarters of Gazprom Neft and other company offices. The building should become the tallest in Russia and Europe, surpassing the Moscow skyscraper "Federation". The cost is estimated at $ 800 million. And this is Gazprom! request
            3. +6
              August 21 2016
              Oh her .. what powerful projects ..
              Well, tell us, my dear, where is our country now, for example, with CNC machines? And for tractors and combines? And for aircraft manufacturing? Shipbuilding?
              Your local successes, not a very happy occasion to beat into fanfare and yell, everything is fine. And then I divided it with shouts of banzai We have !!! even a micronano workshop with the production of 1 ONE ton of cheese is shown as maximizing the whole of Russia as a whole, while being destroyed creameries and dairies, chokhom and in general, no cows are ... and not see much success in the reproduction of cows ...
              http://www.sovross.ru/articles/1435/25235
              Have you read it?
              Now, recall the other day, Vladimir Putin, a parasite from the economy, inserted a wick about the lack of use of waterways in particular and the lack of its own river fleet in general.
              As a result, the stories of the respected Kote, about the allegedly not so and wrong Communist Party, are reset to zero by the words of anyone else, namely the words of the President.
            4. +3
              August 21 2016
              Yes, the Communist Party in its current state is not the party that is capable of leading the country on the right road, as I said. The idea of ​​social justice is important, and of the existing parties, only the communist parties (two of them) have the potential to realize the idea of ​​a just peace. And we must help them do this by voting in the elections, and then by real participation in the work of rebuilding Russia.
              Regarding the link - I do not argue that there are projects. The question is how they are embodied.
              And if you compare with the Stalin years of industrialization (and now we are in a similar state), then it becomes sad.
            5. +3
              August 22 2016
              As A. Zverev wrote in the book "Notes of the Minister" (Finance): "The Communist Party rejected the possibility of obtaining foreign loans on predatory terms, and on" human "capitalists did not want to give us." According to some estimates (1, 2), Western loans accounted for about 3-4% of capital investments during the first five-year plan (and later it was no longer necessary), so they did not play a special role.

              At the same time, industrialization has gone at a fantastic pace.

              Market investments (obtained by the state at the expense of the grain monopoly) during industrialization: the first five-year plan, the first year = 38%, the second year = 18%, the third year and further = 0%! Industrial growth: the first five-year plan = + 1500 new plants and enterprises, the second five-year plan = + 4000 new plants and enterprises. This is some kind of nightmare for a liberal market economist: investments are reduced to zero, and the economy is growing and growing.

              How did the financial system work, how did the financiers manage to build a system without an "omnipotent investor."
              Detailed description of the phenomenon in Kurman Akhmetov's book "Asymmetric Economy" - http://dalaruh.kz/articles/view/338


              And what are you bustling about here, the towers of Gazprom? Well, a trifle, in the understanding of that very economy ..
          2. 0
            August 22 2016
            They will not let me break through ... Too everything is running ...
      2. +3
        August 21 2016
        The Gorbachev-Yakovlev-Shevardnadze group and their accomplices, guided by hatred of their own country and people, organized the destruction of the country's administrative apparatus, individual killings and mass riots in order to dismember the USSR. At the final stage, the main tool for attacking the freedom and state independence of our country was the numerous public organizations called the People’s Front in support of Perestroika (in Lithuania - “Sayudis”, Ukraine - “People’s Movement”), created by order of Yakovlev 5- m "ideological" management of the KGB of the USSR throughout the state.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=179&v=TW2Qf5-Xidc
        Starovoitova: KILL RUSSIANS

        DO YOU HEAR?
        IT SHOULD the one who was directly interested in the destruction of the country, and now, they are also screaming, quieter, but screaming, liberals of all stripes are contributing to this.
        Have you just heard this howl?

        By the way, at the end of Perestroika, General Bobkov, the head of the 5th Directorate, was given the post of chief of security for the Jewish banker Gusinsky (the Most group).
        And here is an example of how Yakovlev’s accomplice, the humanists and liberals, acted when they realized their complete impunity and encouragement from the Kremlin:
        A link to this resource is not a basis for the rejection of the fact that took place. Http: //alternathistory.com/kak-sozdavali-chechnyu-i-vooruzhali-dudaeva
        1. +2
          August 21 2016
          And then Ostap suffered! Now slogans on communist patterns will begin! At the end of the discussion the question will be raised, but what else did you not understand? Yes, we all understood dear comrade!
          1. +6
            August 21 2016
            parusnik Today, 13:25
            About the "fighters against communism" ... If you build an interesting picture of them in the ranks, it turns out ... There is not enough place to list them all ... so the general picture, with rough strokes ... white generals, Trotskyists, "Western democracies" together with the United States, Nazi Germany ... Moreover, in that "Khrustobulkovskiy" light as history is being presented now .. These fighters can be divided into two categories of "moderate" fighters and "immoderate" .. It's like now in Syria, moderate opposition and immoderate .. wink ... Or as it is now .. in St. Petersburg Mannerheim they put up a sign .. it doesn't matter that he was with Hitler .. it matters that before Hitler he was a tsarist officer .. well, and a fighter against communism .. or with Kolchak it doesn't matter what it is Russian officer in British service ... It is important that against communism ..

            CRUNCHER, calm down, you are in your anti-communism, the same as Hitler, the red and other Russophobia and anti-Soviet.
        2. +2
          August 21 2016
          The only question is why we were not able to do all this with the United States. There were even two Communist Parties, there was someone to rely on. For money they sell everything. Why didn't we buy them, didn't find traitors there, why didn't they ruin the States for us? For some reason, all the traitors are at the top, and honest and all understanding "bloodsuckers" are below. Is it a mentality that all the r ... rises to power, and all honest, not traitors sit down in the h ... tse? And they cry .... Why is it wrong there? Where are the traitors up there, or we didn't have enough diamonds to bribe them?
          1. +1
            August 21 2016
            The ingenious OGAS was not created, Khrushchev’s reforms killed the employee’s motivation, and the general mood of growing stagnation, with the allocation of the party elite to a practically separate class, burdened the population more and more.
            The OGAS was supposed to save the situation, but the party elite already then felt, in Glushkov's ingenious work, the main danger to itself. After all, OGAS, in the end, sooner or later would have strongly moved the nomenclature from the feeder. The well-known, destructive reforms of Khrushchev, who plunged the national economy into a mess for a long time, played an equally destructive role.
            Realizing the wave of accumulated problems, the nomenklatura and the KGB saw a way out perfectly well: a stake on scientific and technological progress, on real innovation, on what Stalin once staked on. Promotion of scientists, talented engineers, teachers, etc., who were supposed to pull the country out of the swamp, into which it was sinking more and more, by the hair. But such a way out UNIVERSELY removed the chair from under the fat and fat ass of the elite itself. And the elite acted differently. If without this breakthrough socialism becomes ineffective, then it is necessary to replace socialism with capitalism. And to give the country an acceleration and to remain in power, and to get property for personal use. The mechanisms incorporated in the so-called Operation Zvezda first unleashed the mass consciousness of the Soviet citizen, instilling horror from the very concept of "socialism" with stories and half-truths. And then, using radical nationalists / Islamists on the outskirts, ignited the fires of the civil war. They took away the people's property and began to build criminal capitalism here.
            1. +1
              August 22 2016
              I support! Socialism will revive on modern information technologies. Only one thing is required - an understanding of the leaders in the urgent need for a planned economy. While not denying the possibility of incorporating elements of a market economy into the planned economy, but as an auxiliary factor.
              And again, for lack of cobblestones, I will throw my stone at Khrushchev’s tombstone, the nearby gentleman Brezhnev (this was a good man, but not in his place, like Nicholas II). It was during the years of their reign that there was a murderous turn to the abyss, where we slipped into the 91st. And this process began the Trotskyist and the real enemy of the people - corn.
          2. +1
            August 21 2016
            kalibr Today, 18:07
            Amazing blindness .. amazing in its immediacy demonstration of not understanding the issue ..
            Buy-sell, is that all you have learned now? The processes in America, the mass persecution of the Communists and not just just people of other beliefs, does McCarthyism tell you anything?
            You’re your mentality, together with the Connected Gang of Aggressor change-thirst for profit, bestial attitude towards people, and at the same time study the issue starting from the Bretton Woods agreement .. maybe you will understand ...
            It seems that people like you, it’s good for us to arrange something in the country that is defined by the word McCarthyism.
            "Is it such a mentality that all the city ... rises to power," -you chose the Yeltsins, you voted for his group, you still vote for the same thing, and then we get the Khoroshavins and Gaisers, Vysilievs and Chubais , swanidz and so on, it's you, you yourself are, you choose them, so why are you surprised now?

            And less respected aggression, even if you strongly dislike my opinion.
            1. +1
              August 22 2016
              An empty chatter is not essentially my questions. And aggression ... I have been living in this world for a long time ... I have seen a lot of things, I know a lot of things, where I have been. Tired, you know, before ignoramas scatter in courtesies.
              And where does McCarthyism have to do with it? There are all corrupt ... Well, they would have bought them for a bucket of Yakut diamonds - even if they had ruined everything for themselves. And the Communists would help ... So don’t. You do not know about China; REM is a set of words for you. And it used to be - a lot of damn pancake, knowledge - one chastisement, here you are such smart people and outplayed. And they did it right!
      3. +4
        August 21 2016
        Comrades, we all vote for the Communist Party !!! Let’s finally let them finish off our Motherland !!! After all, the last time they were disturbed !!
        1. +3
          August 21 2016
          Hysteria in the ranks of the EP?
          Correctly hysteria, you finish off the country, you can’t give opportunities.
        2. 0
          August 21 2016
          You remind me of this
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOTsjFdPk6s
        3. 0
          August 22 2016
          Vote. I put +
  2. +9
    August 21 2016
    The collapse of the USSR became the most striking illustration of the meaninglessness of any referenda. Their results are accepted by the authorities only when this coincides with the opinion and aspiration of those in power.
  3. +4
    August 21 2016
    It was a grandiose deception of administratively illiterate people by a degrading elite. Conclusions about those events, about the reasons that pleased them, have not been made so far, which means that such a repetition is possible in the future.
    1. 0
      August 21 2016
      So after all, education in the USSR was the best ...
  4. +6
    August 21 2016
    The Bolsheviks are often accused of starting a civil war ... they say bloodsuckers and usurpers ... how much blood was shed ... 25 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR ... and blood continues to pour on the territory of the former USSR ... not ceasing, then in a torrential stream, then a small one brook ..
  5. +6
    August 21 2016
    There is a good proverb: "What they trampled, so they burst." In short, eat your democracy!
    How happy they were then with the collapse of the "totalitarian communist regime", how they rode on the barricade! So they have been jumping for 25 years. Jumping is always easier than thinking with your head. Maidan showed it well.
    1. +1
      August 21 2016
      Dear Stern, think what kind of parsley comes out, the whole country built communism, people sparing themselves did everything for the country! But in the end? We built communism, but for a handful of party elite who shared our homeland among the common people! Who got the republic, who’s the smallest factory! And now they speculate on the USSR, they want our votes here! They’ve been sitting in the Duma for how many years? What’s happening now their direct merit in the country! And think what kind of communists they are? What are they going to build communism? No! They just profit from the memory of the USSR!
      1. +3
        August 21 2016
        Another stupidity based on nothing .. And what did you build after 91?
        Hell for the common population and a paradise for officials, thieves and oligrahata.
        Speculators are you and yourself about yourself and all your great company. That all the pipes and shamans knock and shaman on the Internet, just to chat the question is whether there is future capitalism or capitalism, this is an ugly past and a dull present without a future.
        1. +1
          August 21 2016
          There is no common population - the "common people" are a convenient bogey of the Soviet era. All people are difficult, except for those who have a certificate of incapacity. Don't be like that - "simple population" ... All people are complex. And everyone has the right, yes, to do what he wants. Someone is crying for the USSR, someone is making money from his sobs, someone is selling something. Reduce your speed, by God, you won't achieve anything with your writings here! Everything will be as completely different people want it.
          1. +1
            August 21 2016
            No need for the classic verbiage, the term "common people" is just a designation of a layer of workers, in contrast to those who are burdened with power and the right to make decisions.
            If you are satisfied with the position of an ostrich, then for God's sake, take it, and since, as you say, everyone thinks as he sees fit, then do not try to prescribe my worldview to what is happening.
          2. 0
            August 21 2016
            And, who are you, a former party agitator, a teacher of history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, now directly splashing with hatred?
            How do you live with such a burden, if you used to glorify one thing, now with the same effort you want what you used to serve?
          3. 0
            August 22 2016
            Are you an agitator from these people?
      2. +1
        August 22 2016
        Exactly! All the trouble of the country is that the share of snatchers, their hangovers and lackeys has a sufficient share of society, which allows us to block all the aspirations of the people and a healthy part of the government. And they skillfully breed the patriotic opposition into small groups of dissatisfied, instead of a united patriotic front.
  6. +1
    August 21 2016
    Pavlenko, you are great: you correctly assess what happened in August 1991. MS acted like a stupid cook: he began to cook and did not know what he was going to cook. And the Belovezhskaya "troika" are envious cooks! I really hope that the devils are hotter than the exploration of the fire under the cauldron with these would-be cooks
    1. +1
      August 21 2016
      This one knew everything.
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  8. +3
    August 21 2016
    And the liquidation of the country does not stop to this day. And in terms of the totality of approaches to the destruction of the remnants of the "Past Greatness", modern liberals from the government have probably already surpassed everyone they can! Actual destruction of the social sphere, endless reforms (experiments) in medicine, education, science ... the economy, but everyone knows everything! An unprecedented wave of "decommunization" in recent years, praise of outright executioners or traitors, I really don't know when it was worse, now or during the "democratic intoxication of the 90s" ... Such impression, at the top - "a feast during the plague" - they understand that one day they can explode in full, but they do not know when, so they try to grab the maximum (for a secure old age for children and grandchildren) and quickly dump where further ..... IMHO, it feels like everything inside the country is on a "live thread", and is about to break off ....
    1. 0
      August 21 2016
      So after the election, Ilyich will finally be removed from the mausoleum, and with a sense of accomplishment, they will rush to permanent residence in London or somewhere else ...
      1. 0
        August 21 2016
        Quote: Quzmi4
        So after the election, Ilyich will finally be removed from the mausoleum, and with a sense of accomplishment, they will rush to permanent residence in London or somewhere else ...

        - In what terrible dream did you see it?
        - how much was used before?
        - Or do you still have some kind of secret information? Share, if so ... as expected (link to the source is highly desirable)
  9. +1
    August 21 2016
    Bloodsucker,
    Clear! You don't know and are trying to fight back with another portion of brain-thinning nonsense. Slogans are good for the "illiterate rabble". But not everyone is like that. In fact, China has risen to the EGF (natural geographic factor) - it owns 90% of the world's reserves of rare earths. The boom in some types of industry allowed him to become a monopoly in the field of mining and export of rare earth metals. First there was dumping, then a monopoly high rise in prices. By the way, one of the plans for the US war against China is called the "War for REM". And this is the result of what the commies got burned on - ignorance! They have a direct question - they are an ornate answer. But in reality, you just need to know and be able to! We know, we are able and everything will be as we want!
    1. +1
      August 21 2016
      kalibr Today, 19:08
      The blatant demonstration of its impudence, namely, diluting the brains of nonsense.
      In China, the CCP in power, their main documents regarding the country's development and steps to modernize the country, are on the Internet, what are you fooling people about here?
      In RUSSIA, there is no this very EHF, is this that stupidity like in your head was born into an idea?
      This is the space between Europe and Asia, the natural land route from Europe to anywhere in Eurasia, plus the breakthrough of minerals, water resources and other things that are not in China and the EGF in China, but Russia doesn’t, do you realize the depth of your error?
      Or is the fact that China has a different socio-economic formation, because here you come up with all the nonsense about the EGF, then about REM, what other reason will you come up with?
  10. +1
    August 21 2016
    Quote: kalibr
    Caliber,
    And here’s the result on what commie and burned - on ignorance! They have a direct question - they are an ornate answer. But in fact, you just need to know. And be able to! We know, we can and everything will be as we want!

    Who are we? And who are you, a former party agitator, a teacher of history of the CPSU, not mistaken? When were you honest? Then or now? What has changed the ideals of social justice over the century? And where does such self-confidence come from?
    1. +3
      August 21 2016
      Who are we?

      And comrade Shpakovsky (Caliber) was rebuilt. Well, damn it, not quoting, but sheer torment.
    2. 0
      August 22 2016
      That's why I know the whole kitchen from the inside and it is written. And honesty is directly proportional to the availability of knowledge. If Columbus was honest with three whales and a turtle, he would not have discovered America.
    3. 0
      August 22 2016
      That's why I know the whole kitchen from the inside and it is written. And honesty is directly proportional to the availability of knowledge. If Columbus was honest with three whales and a turtle, he would not have discovered America.
  11. +1
    August 22 2016
    I came across a quote from a speech by I.V. Stalin, which is just very suitable for the event in question. “You cannot console yourself with the fact that we have a million members in the party, two million in the Komsomol, ten million in the trade unions, that this is all provided for the final victory over the enemies. This is not true, comrades. History says that the largest armies perished from the fact that they were conceited, believed too much in their own strength, reckoned too little with the strength of their enemies, gave themselves up to hibernation, lost their combat readiness and, at a critical moment, were caught unawares.
    The largest party may be caught off guard, the largest party may perish if it does not heed the lessons of history, if it does not forge the combat readiness of its class day after day. To be taken by surprise is a most dangerous business, comrades. To be taken by surprise means to become a victim of "surprises", a victim of panic before the enemy. And panic leads to decay, to defeat, to death. "

    I.V. Stalin. Speech at the VIII Congress of the Komsomol.
    Works, vol. 11, pp. 67-69.
    What can I say? Joseph Vissarionovich was right. Only who reads it at us now .....
  12. +1
    August 22 2016
    kalibr,
    kalibr,
    Quote: kalibr
    An empty chatter is not essentially my questions. And aggression ... I have been living in this world for a long time ... I have seen a lot of things, I know a lot of things, where I have been. Tired, you know, before ignoramas scatter in courtesies.
    And where does McCarthyism have to do with it? There are all corrupt ... Well, they would have bought them for a bucket of Yakut diamonds - even if they had ruined everything for themselves. And the Communists would help ... So don’t. You do not know about China; REM is a set of words for you. And it used to be - a lot of damn pancake, knowledge - one chastisement, here you are such smart people and outplayed. And they did it right!


    First, judging by your track record, you are okromy blah blah blah, you haven’t seen anything anywhere.
    Second, tell us about the buckets of diamonds, and so on.
    Third, you have no answers to my questions, because of your not even understanding the essence of the question. Blah blah blah in your performance, just a confirmation of this.
    Fourth, smart people, did you and Kote put yourself in this number? Well, tell a "smart" person, how many people were in your subordination and what were you in reality, smartly, except for a sheet of paper and a pen, did you manage? Nothing? Keep quiet then.
    Fifth, "And what does McCarthyism have to do with it? There are all corrupt ..." Are you naive? Are you so naive and ignorant that you really do not understand either the term or the consequences of applying the McCarthy ideas to real deeds? What do you know then?
    Well, the last one, ignorant, with aplomb and the absence of precisely thoughts, oddly enough, here you are no one else, there is a lot of aplomb, but there is no showing of intelligence.
    At the expense of rare earth materials, rarely land materials, and so, "expert", but China has a lot of them, but absolutely not on these fossils the power of China is based, unlike you, the singers of the pipe with fuels and lubricants, which you trade anyhow to the detriment of your own country ...
    In Russia, on Iturup, the only Rhenia deposit in the world is you, do you know people like that? Do you know the price for it? And where do you go now, do you know
    So don’t waste the ballast, in the past, an agitator who has surrendered what he has served and now curses what he has served — conscience does not torment?
    1. 0
      August 22 2016
      Well, white won anyway, so what are you talking about? And rhenium will go abroad, of course ...
  13. +1
    August 22 2016
    Cat Man Null,
    Imagine only yourself-correctly, exactly what is called the capacious word-ZERO, from your empty talk, only former agitators are delighted.

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