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Updating the site "Military Review"

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We inform our dear readers that the informational and analytical portal “Military Review” (topwar.ru) is switching to a new design, as well as implementing changes according to a number of operating principles. We consider it necessary to bring to the audience the most significant, from our point of view, changes concerning both the work of the site itself and activities on the site of its users.


Immediately it is worth noting that the site is not going to change its approach to the information component. Our focus remains the same: coverage of events related to the activities of the Armed Forces, the military-industrial sphere, geopolitics, acute issues of the economy, education, which are in no small degree capable of making their contribution to the security system of the state and society. We do not change the patriotic orientation, we will continue to carry out activities taking into account Russian interests. At the same time, while continuing to work on financing solely through the placement of advertising content by advertisers, we once again inform readers who have conspiracy theories that the Military Review is not funded by any public or private structures, including foreign ones.

What exactly will change?



Our regular readers had time to get used to the fact that each article and each published comment can be awarded a rating, both positive and negative. Any reader in the early version of the site could put a plus or a minus, based on his vision of the content of the material (commentary) or even its authorship. Often, the administration and moderators of the site even had to deal with the personal dislike of individual users for each other, which poured into "minusovanie" without any of its arguments except for the argument in style, sorry generously, "he himself was a fool." In the new version of "Military Review" we decided to abandon the system of "minuses".

In particular, we are talking about the fact that if one or another user liked the material (comment), then, as before, he can put a “plus”, or rather use the “Like” button.



If the material is not liked, the user can always express his opinion in the comments, arguing his position. It is by arguing, rather than slapping the silent "minus" on duty, or by confining himself to the above-mentioned commenting technique with a transition to personalities. For those who still do not want to move on to the practice of civilized communication and acquaintance with materials and comments, each user has a “black list” at their disposal. The ban system for violating the rules on the Military Review website, including the outright trolls, will also remain in working condition.

The changes will affect the system of assigning titles to the "IN". Considering the fact that a certain category of users is too serious about accumulating points for assigning “titles” and trying with all their might in just a week, or even less, to “rise” to the rank of marshal, we decided to switch to the practice of having more points for assignment of the next reader "title". Understand us correctly - the marshal's staff, some of whom scored points for comments from the “I Am of the Same Opinion” series, rolls off, and from the running set with big stars dazzles in the eyes ... The ranks of the marshal and the generals on “VO” will thin.

If we touch on changes in the design of the site, then our main page becomes more informative and dynamic. The most significant and popular stories among readers directly on the main page will be sorted into categories, be it Opinion, Armament, news or analytical sections. As a separate segment on the main page will be presented photo and video materials, as well as articles historical directionality. There was also a place for the “Readers' Choice” section, which will include the most actively read and commented on materials.

For any additional details you are interested in, please contact the site administration. To do this, it is possible to write a direct letter from the “Contacts” section, or use the “Report” function.

No re-registration for VO users after innovations in the portal is required.

The website update is designed to increase the level of user convenience for exploring the content, improve the dynamics of the site, increase its visual information content. We hope that you will like all the innovations, our dear readers, and it will not take long for you to get used to the new rules of the Military Review.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 05 New
    +72
    And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 08 New
      +16
      Soon the titles will appear, but others smile
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 11 New
        +8
        Hi Andrey! Now it has become universal for videos and pictures? I see the media. Where are the pictures?
        1. atalef
          atalef 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
          +32
          it’s not yet clear how to embed a video and how to minus you bully
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 21 New
            +8
            Sanya, pictures and videos are already understandable, so far I have not quite figured out the citation, but this is temporary.
            1. Gomel
              Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 29 New
              +39
              gray link "More ...." next to "Reply" there will be "quote"
              while it is not convenient, in the pursuit of design and minimization, they have hidden it until you move the cursor, IMHO to remove this feature, let the link be initially visible. But on the other hand, it has become more convenient in tablets and smartphones, seriously. Not expected.

              Zy In t interesting design solution (design) licked someone or their domestic? (whom to praise shorter? :))

              UPD1: the view is slowly changing for the worse:
              1. Where are the latest comments in the article?
              2. The flags disappeared, very patriotic
            2. Darkmor
              Darkmor 20 August 2016 15: 57 New
              +138
              I do not care about shoulder straps, I’m even too lazy to put an avatar ... but with minuses you are in vain, they made sense.
              It is worth the post, let's say 50 pluses and 30 minuses, and by the ratio one can understand that about a third of readers are not in awe of the expressed idea or opinion.
              And in the comments there may be only 1-2 people who argue with you.
              And the fact that someone was minus someone for personal reasons is a drop in the bucket.

              P.S. By the way, on epaulettes ... if you really want to somehow diversify people - maybe, in addition to the ranks, you will give medals? :)

              And by design:
              Personally, I would like more functionality for widescreen monitors (I have half the screen empty)
              A lot of white fill, I hope it fixes (eyes hurt)
              Also, fillers between the text of different messages can be reduced so that the “correspondence” looks more compact (for example, the “reply” button takes about 2 lines of text - maybe it’s worth moving it?)
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS 21 August 2016 13: 19 New
              +19
              It’s not clear how to view your posts in topics in order to reply to your opponent ... And how to understand whether there are new posts in a topic at all? As well as following the link of your post to a specific thread, it is not clear how to view your comments and answers to them other members of the forum ....
          2. WUA 518
            WUA 518 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
            +24
            Sanya hi. How to minus one? And like this "-" bully
            1. atalef
              atalef 20 August 2016 15: 51 New
              +49
              Quote: WUA 518
              Sanya hi. How to minus one? And like this "-" bully

              or as
            2. Alf
              Alf 20 August 2016 16: 56 New
              +6
              That's how.
              "You’re a minus, because that is so and so."
            3. BambrSV
              BambrSV 20 August 2016 18: 13 New
              +3
              "+" for "-" lol
            4. family tree
              family tree 20 August 2016 21: 43 New
              +1
              And you, Sanya, have an avatar from your namesake, from armored vehicles, which Sparrow, look. It is very clearly shown laughing Hi, Sani drinks
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          3. SergeBS
            SergeBS 20 August 2016 17: 39 New
            +59
            But you can’t “minus one”. The wry-handed “designers” were preoccupied, first of all, so that they wouldn’t stick the “minuses” for the “modern design” in red and white.
            1. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 20 August 2016 20: 45 New
              +40
              Yes, the design is the same ... "Ranks" in general had to be canceled, epaulettes go to years of study of labor and often blood. And this is so, I think pampering, and the flags must be returned ...
            2. Androsh
              Androsh 21 August 2016 13: 38 New
              +42
              Now the site will be filled with liberals, trolls and dill who are not in danger, because they will not get any minuses .. Then the patriots will leave this site and it will turn into a dull city.
          4. unsinkable
            unsinkable 20 August 2016 19: 27 New
            +1
            Learn, dear. Gopodin * so-and-so * here's to you * - *, get negative .
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 20 August 2016 19: 37 New
              +10
              ... the sadness of the minusers now ... the meaning of their existence in the VO is lost ... laughing
          5. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 21 August 2016 17: 08 New
            +45
            Nowadays, it’s not possible to draw a article either, that is, the author, or the commentator. And this is the main minus. The most snickering thing is that excuses for the site administration put up children’s. Well, who can explain to me why on some regional site "Theron" (Perm), you could move your mouse and visually see who specifically set the minus and who is the plus. But on a site like VO this is not possible?
            Kindergarten, briefs on the straps. Themselves lowered their IT specialists below the baseboard.
            1. stas-xnumx
              stas-xnumx 22 August 2016 09: 32 New
              +6
              Yes, yes, I expressed a similar idea here a long time ago so that it was obvious who was minus ... Yes, and the donkeys seem to be about nothing, but I’m getting a nice new star, for example, I’ve reached the captain in "Past Life"))) A now again ml.lei (((
        2. fantast
          fantast 20 August 2016 15: 36 New
          +8
          Insert pictures add soon
          1. atalef
            atalef 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
            +32
            And what about the rating of comments in your profile? Was it seen before? Now virgin voids and it is not visible how to respond to each of your comments?
          2. alexng
            alexng 20 August 2016 17: 35 New
            +13
            Thank God! Canceled cons. I myself have never set cons and I think that this is the lot of weak cheap things. Sorry for the harshness, but this is how I perceive minusculers and equate them with warriors throwing pillows. hi
            1. kashtak
              kashtak 20 August 2016 18: 11 New
              +102
              the fact that you did not use the “minuses” is not a reason for pride, the “precious” you are ours. just tell me how compactly express an opinion on an article or comment? to produce a cloud of empty phrases of the same type hammering in mass, when there is nothing to add? the plus / minus system was more objective.
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            3. stas
              stas 22 August 2016 14: 38 New
              +11
              And if cheap stuff deserves nothing but a minus?

              Now liberals expanse, write crap. It is useless to argue with a liberalist.
              I think the minuses were removed in connection with the elections, so that the authorities would not
              minus.
          3. SergeBS
            SergeBS 20 August 2016 17: 45 New
            +8
            Yeah. And at the same time add (maybe) an insert of "minuses". And in less than a year, different fields (such as the title, business card, text itself, editing control) will become with a different background color. So, you see, by 2020, the old design will be restored. am
            It was impossible to pre-train “on rags” in order to remove at least Explicit jambs (such as the message “Loading ...” from above, which was FOREVER registered)? am
          4. Inok10
            Inok10 20 August 2016 22: 03 New
            +8
            Quote: fantast
            "We’ll add the insertion of pictures in the near future"
            ... it would not hurt to update the Rules of VO, on the screen ... and the question on Warnings, have they been reset? and will there be an indication of warnings received by the user? ... hi
          5. nadezhiva
            nadezhiva 21 August 2016 17: 11 New
            +12
            fantast, I’m sorry, but then it’s for you: Minus one now can’t get an article, that is, an author, or a commentator. And this is the main minus. The most snickering thing is that excuses for the site administration put up children’s. Well, who can explain to me why on some regional site "Theron" (Perm), you could move your mouse and visually see who specifically set the minus and who is the plus. But on a site like VO this is not possible?
            Kindergarten, briefs on the straps. Themselves lowered their IT specialists below the baseboard.
            1. tol100v
              tol100v 22 August 2016 18: 59 New
              +10
              The next change of the VO site follows the precepts of V.S. Chernomyrdin: “We wanted the best, but it turned out as always!” "As always" refers to the previous "lame reincarnation" of "Military Review". Let's start in order: Is the Administration of the "VO" Site so classified that even its own search engine can not find the owner !? It seems that the site is intentionally ruined. That's just in whose favor it is not at all clear. Discussion of sensitive issues TARGETED in the last "Update". Now the main thing is a mechanical translation of the “Political” and “Economic” Reviews, which takes up more than 50% of the format, which does not decorate the site. Especially when, after the lapse of time, these same articles appear in the editorial "VO". What, is it difficult to immediately put these TOPICS for discussion? For some reason, there is no desire to discuss yesterday's news. Avoiding discussion of fresh topics, and reducing the quality of their presentation, greatly reduces the attractiveness of the resource. Discussing simple current news is about nothing. What did good, you can see on the "Made with us"! Big request: RETURN THE OLD ARCHITECTURE of the site and do not improve the GOOD! It seems that the technical problems will be solved immediately after the transition to the INITIAL VERSION! Funds spent on "REINCARNATION" - you can write off!
      2. Dilshat
        Dilshat 20 August 2016 15: 35 New
        +8
        You can give the next rank in a year not earlier if you have the accumulated advantages corresponding to the next rank.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 August 2016 17: 01 New
          +18
          As one friend of mine says, "not everyone will survive." yes
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 20 August 2016 19: 20 New
            +18
            Not everyone will be able to survive, or rather, not only everyone will be able, few will be able to do it bully
            1. PValery53
              PValery53 21 August 2016 22: 03 New
              +1
              Blow into the Klitschkov dudu. He probably hiccups.
        2. unsinkable
          unsinkable 20 August 2016 19: 39 New
          +23
          Absolutely no need for these conventions with ranks. What is the point if the lieutenant can be smarter than the colonel. The main thing on the forum is participation in disputes, discussions, the struggle for one’s own point of view. To introduce a system of * pluses and minuses * in order to know the full picture of the attitude to one’s own opinion by others forum users. hi
      3. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 20 August 2016 19: 10 New
        0
        by the way the gruppenfuhrer Mueller sounds normal, after jokes for 17 moments.
      4. theadenter
        theadenter 20 August 2016 22: 02 New
        +2
        On page 7, I left a big comment with my comments on the innovations. I wish comrade administrators did not miss it.
      5. atalef
        atalef 21 August 2016 06: 01 New
        +26
        Another question regarding comments
        Where is the key - FIX?
        It was a convenient function, sometimes you will miss an error (in my case, the score goes to tens) laughing , you want to add something - all this was possible.
        Why removed?
        Please return
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 21 August 2016 11: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          Where is the key - FIX?

          ... Alexander Batkovich, in the same place where she was ... under Yet .
      6. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 21 August 2016 15: 17 New
        +23
        The ranks are different, we are not opposed, but the mechanisms have faded even further.
        There were points, maybe you correctly removed careerism, but where transparency and objectivity, it was generally leaked. "And who are the judges?" or where are the judges? And "where is the supreme court, confidants of debauchery?" For some reason, they rushed to defend the honor of the authors (it’s forbidden to give it a minus, although this is a reprint from the Western media, albeit corrected).
        We do not change our patriotic orientation, we will continue to carry out activities taking into account Russian interests. [B] [/ b]
        For a year of communication on the site, I had doubts about the site's implementation of the stated paradigm. And if earlier I had the opportunity to give my assessment of the submitted material (-) and this was visible to everyone, now my silence is (0), so it is nothing in Africa.
        I suggest to separate flies from cutlets. News laced with the media does not evaluate. But if there is an author’s vision of the issue and an assessment of the situation, then an assessment must be made and an honest author must uphold his point of view and can even develop it.
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    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
      +36
      It has long been proposed to demote everyone. As if from the pursuit of the mind increased, or due to their lack of mind, it became sharply less.
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 20 August 2016 15: 29 New
        +17
        Well, it's like a denomination - over time the zeros have returned. So here, a week is different and again the majority of the former will flaunt in new marshal's uniform laughing
        So the problem of pursuit and mind will always be, there is no escape from this.
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 20 August 2016 15: 31 New
          +4
          The rules of growth have changed, so it's not a fact =)
        2. fantast
          fantast 20 August 2016 15: 38 New
          +2
          it is unlikely, now it’s not easy to reach the marshal soldier
          1. Comrade Bender
            Comrade Bender 20 August 2016 23: 00 New
            +13
            In my opinion, the title of Marshal of authority in society does not add, unless it only amuses pride and ambition.
          2. atalef
            atalef 21 August 2016 05: 53 New
            +56
            Quote: fantast
            it is unlikely, now it’s not easy to reach the marshal soldier

            certainly hard wink
            I have a rating of zero and does not move at all, why?
            Further, once again I propose to return the minus, this is correct, but with the only exception, the minus can be set only when responding to the negative comment (as on the article)
            Otherwise, the whole discussion will turn into a continuous collection of pluses and fawning couch warriors in pursuit of marshal's epaulets.
            Woke up in the morning, thought some things would fix
            1. Background horribly hurts his eyes
            2 Huge windows, makes it difficult to cover the info and have to twist the mouse all the time
            3.My comments and new comments have sunk into oblivion
            4 Quoting Extremely Uncomfortable
            5.Clicking on comments does not work - throws to the top of the article
            6 Flags - well, we’ll survive another week — but this must also be returned.
            7 Rating not working
            8 Pluses are not visible in my comments (unfortunately now there are no minuses)

            Previously, all this worked and this forum was very convenient.
            Best the enemy of the good!
            1. S-kerrigan
              S-kerrigan 21 August 2016 10: 32 New
              +12
              I agree with the entire list of Atalef. UX really dipped and got worse than it was.
            2. sdc_alex
              sdc_alex 22 August 2016 06: 19 New
              +2
              And I, after updating the site, in general, the browser hangs on the home computer.
        3. Very old
          Very old 20 August 2016 15: 49 New
          +16
          "Denomination" is a must. We do not come here for "cookies; communication for the sake of. To learn new things, to speak out on a daily basis, to find a friend and ally, like-minded person.
          Three years with VO. This is the second "reorganization" and I like it more

          And where are the arrows pointing to the recipient?
          1. 34 region
            34 region 20 August 2016 16: 44 New
            +3
            And the sense of the arrows? You click on it and there is a whole fan. It is better to automatically set the nickname and time. Then it’s clear to whom you answer. hi Emoticons are not enough.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 20 August 2016 17: 32 New
              +22
              Quote: 34 region
              And the sense of the arrows? You click on it and there is a whole fan. It is better to automatically set the nickname and time

              - that's honest - I have never seen such a thing
              - "arrows" were very convenient, IMHO

              By design:
              - the "copy" button hijacks the answer to the end of the tape (it used to be, okay. Never used it)
              - the “answer” button opens a new window of “VDI type?” Fashionable, but extremely inconvenient to copy the message to which you are responding
              - So far I have found only such a “feature:”: you click quotes in a new window, a “wrapper” appears for the quote. Then, with RUTS, copy from the main window that I wanted to quote, and with RUTS you copy-paste the author of the quote.

              Question: is this necessary, or am I not catching up with something?

              Previously, there was a “quote” button in the reply box (SDI), and it worked fine.

              What am I giving wrong?



              PS; GIF inserted as a picture is not animated. It used to work ...
            2. KomodPoGo..wd
              KomodPoGo..wd 21 August 2016 00: 59 New
              0
              exactly, for the cons they are sooooo small ....
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        5. KomodPoGo..wd
          KomodPoGo..wd 21 August 2016 00: 57 New
          +1
          That's right, so if you want to repeat your feat, it's enough to go through a new registration and howl is not an easy way to the marshal open!
          And you don’t have to wait at all when you are “shot along with everyone” (zeroed out) ......
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 20 August 2016 15: 39 New
        +15
        Is it demoted? I, for example, Colonel request
        I did not write articles and laid out. It is possible and in the rank and file. Ranks - for work! This sentence is from me.
        1. sniper
          sniper 20 August 2016 15: 58 New
          +18
          Absolutely correct remark !!! Articles and posts containing useful info should be evaluated differently ... Current how to distinguish a useful post from a flood ????
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 20 August 2016 18: 55 New
            +32
            Gentlemen, the opinion of the administration is perfectly clear. Cons should be used wisely, and cheers-patriotism too. Moreover, it is foolish to reduce personal hostility. IMHO:
            1. Cons were good for only one thing - fight trolls. Also, basically, these trolls were with foreign flags. That is, as it was before: a certain person flies to the site, overtakes our story "know-it-all", or what other blizzard will drive - we zamusnuvali him, drove him in shoulder straps, it is easier for the moderator to block him. How to deal with similar vagrants now? They can spoil the whole discussion with their flood.
            2. Removed the "my comments" button. Again, if there is a discussion, it has become more difficult to find oneself. Bring back (preferably)! I’ll write this comment now, then I won’t even be able to find it, so I can read the answers if anyone can answer! lol
            It is also a pity that the photos from previous discussions were reset. There are a lot of links to Topwar even on Wikipedia - you will go to an article a few years ago, and everything is beautiful, although users with those nicknames are no longer on the site.
            While the interface is unusual. I’ll try to get used to it. Yours faithfully, hi
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 20 August 2016 22: 07 New
              +12
              Quote: Mikado
              2. Removed the "my comments" button. Again, if there is a discussion, it has become more difficult to find oneself. Bring back (preferably)! I’ll write this comment now, then I won’t even be able to find it, so I can read the answers if anyone can answer!
              You got ahead of me, you wanted to write the same thing.
      3. ver_
        ver_ 20 August 2016 18: 17 New
        +9
        .. I didn’t like when for a child’s comment flew over a hundred pluses as an indication in which direction you need to "row", and minus one is unknown for what (I think the Nazis) for not recognizing their exclusivity ...
    3. Milana
      Milana 20 August 2016 15: 21 New
      +8
      Thank! smiled.
      There really were a lot of stars. fellow
      1. Very old
        Very old 20 August 2016 16: 27 New
        +13
        Here MILANA says: Thank you! smiled.
        But it is not clear to whom she answered. So the arrow is needed
        1. ICT
          ICT 20 August 2016 18: 21 New
          +9
          Quote: Old very
          But it is not clear to whom she answered. So the arrow is needed

          it’s strange while everything is not comfortable from a habit,


          but I would leave the minus for comments, without the possibility of the influence of these minuses on the rating,

          it’s just that sometimes you like the comment, and sometimes you don’t want to comment on laziness or someone already duplicated the answer that you wanted to say

          Well, that is, “-” for the comment is like a plus, you can just see how many people touched your comment hi
          1. ICT
            ICT 20 August 2016 18: 24 New
            +7
            ps I don’t move the arrow to go up the page (if you forgot the thing you need)
            1. ICT
              ICT 20 August 2016 18: 36 New
              +1
              1. news and opinions in one column to reduce
              2. section arsenal until I found where even buried
        2. fantast
          fantast 20 August 2016 19: 32 New
          +4
          Arrows make
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 20 August 2016 20: 09 New
            +6
            Andrei, I would ask you to pay attention to the icon (which used to be located on top), which showed comments of their own. It was easy to get answers from colleagues. Now her something is not noticeable ...
          2. Privat
            Privat 21 August 2016 07: 35 New
            +6
            1. The login form finally began to remember the username. It's good.
            2. The online / offline icon was only solved empirically. Some kind of cockroach mustache down. smile
            3. The quote die is prohibitively large, as is the red square with quotation marks. IMHO, a waste of space.
            4. In most forums, the quote is highlighted in a different background color. It is more ergonomic and easier to read.
            5. The name of the cited user is typed in the same size and the same headset as the name of the commentator himself. But due to the black color (and the commentator is red), it visually seems larger in size, which is hardly correct.
            6. The items "Reply" and "Quote" looked nevertheless more intuitive (and more familiar) than the new-fashioned swirling arrow.
            7. The selection of text in the input form is too pale, poorly visible.

            This is just what immediately caught my eye. I hope the comments and suggestions of users will help to "finish" the new design to the perfection of "usability". wink
          3. ammunition
            ammunition 21 August 2016 19: 13 New
            +12
            Quote: fantast
            Arrows make


            Please return the old version. winked
            -------------------------------
            Well, it is clear that this "reform" will greatly worsen the work of the site. And visitors will be much less.
            So far ... many people come several times to discuss (scold) a new site.
            And the day through trm .. see. Attendance will decrease. sad
            1. Foresterer
              Foresterer 22 August 2016 20: 39 New
              +5
              I’ve been in for the third day to leave immediately. The soul does not lie to the updated site. Well, the author’s development, so no, they used a cheap template, they became like many, their face disappeared.
    4. armageddon
      armageddon 20 August 2016 15: 23 New
      +3
      Hmm ... Victor Tsoi’s song “Changes Our Hearts” immediately comes to mind ... Well, let’s look for the better or the opposite ... So demoted forward !!!
    5. atalef
      atalef 20 August 2016 15: 24 New
      +25
      It’s not convenient to insert quotes, where are the flags? Cosmopolitan am ?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 20 August 2016 15: 35 New
        +7
        where are the flags? Cosmopolitan!
        Hi Sasha!
        "National pride of the Great Russians" or something infected !? bully
        1. atalef
          atalef 20 August 2016 15: 39 New
          +26
          Hi Sasha. While of course it is not convenient.
          The flags will certainly be returned, but I would leave a minus, but only if I leave a comment regarding comments.
          If there is an opportunity plus, it should be possible to put a minus comment, of course, to avoid empty mining, put a minus only with a comment.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 20 August 2016 15: 53 New
            +7
            ABOUT! Oh my god, I see the "flying bear" again! laughing And do not care that the "Jewish bat" representative of Atalife! What a blessing bully hi Did you miss the bat? Well, not what, judging by the new rules of the site, we have long conversations.
            1. atalef
              atalef 20 August 2016 15: 59 New
              +8
              ABOUT! Oh my god, I see the "flying bear" again!

              God is written with a capital letter, and a mouse with a soft sign wink
              And do not care that the "Jewish bat" representative of Atalife!

              What kind of life ???
              What happiness bully hi Did you miss the bat?

              strange you, why did you decide that happiness and that you miss?
              Well, not what, judging by the new rules of the site, we have long conversations.

              You probably decided to intimidate me?
          2. fantast
            fantast 20 August 2016 19: 35 New
            +1
            The comment in this case will be very informative: "you minus" for example
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 20 August 2016 15: 43 New
        +2
        About cosmopolitans + laughing
      3. Cat man null
        Cat man null 20 August 2016 17: 03 New
        +1
        And by the way, how do you insert them at all ?! what
    6. Evil543
      Evil543 20 August 2016 15: 36 New
      +3
      With what we congratulate you
    7. Gray brother
      Gray brother 20 August 2016 15: 56 New
      +22
      Well, okay, it’s demoted, only the functionality was damaged and it’s bad - there are no buttons “my comments” and “unread”, it became inconvenient to navigate.

      By the way, if everyone was demoted, what happened to the black-militants? I'm worried about them laughing
      1. cap
        cap 20 August 2016 16: 22 New
        +20
        I agree. It is convenient to view "My Comments" without returning to the article, "unread" is similar. It is better to finalize and return.
        And a very bright screen, as mentioned above. It hits the eyes.
        But in general, everything is correct. Rudeness with minuses it was time to finish.
        Good luck to us all.
        PS
        About the flags already written. I am for their return. It will emphasize that ".. we are few, but we are in vests ...", and it’s just interesting how TAM thinks about what is happening in Russia.
        1. Smog
          Smog 20 August 2016 16: 48 New
          +18
          By cons I do not agree with you. And then how to respond to outright rudeness, etc.? Comment? I'm afraid there will be too many of the same. By rank with all limbs, FOR.
          And return the button my comments were convenient.
        2. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 20 August 2016 17: 07 New
          +9
          The fact that their own comments are not saved is completely incomprehensible. And the ability to correct them after publication was very helpful.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. family tree
        family tree 20 August 2016 21: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        By the way, if everyone was demoted, what happened to the black-militants? I'm worried about them laughing

        Optimized, nafig! soldier
    8. Aqela
      Aqela 20 August 2016 16: 18 New
      +8
      I must admit, lately an abundance of marshals, whose quality of judgment did not inspire any respect, has been sickening to me. In addition, the constant receipt by mail of notifications of discussions, where the entire discussion came down to a worthless repetition of the same arguments, and resembled the “communication” of macaques throwing banana peels into each other ... How many times have called for the use of intelligible argumentation ... Maybe something will change for the better?
    9. yushch
      yushch 20 August 2016 16: 37 New
      +11
      I would also suggest that the VO administration assign the marshal’s title to candidates not only for the rating, but also for a certain number of articles written and posted on the site. I consider the assignment of the marshal’s rank only for the number of “pluses” in the personal rating to be incorrect.
    10. Asadullah
      Asadullah 20 August 2016 16: 53 New
      +4
      And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted


      In vain, I would put up the sale of balls on a commercial basis. You can sell your ranks to the ordinary, bets for each, and the site receives 20%. laughing The same with the minuses, who wants to get rid of their minuses, pays the site 10 euros per minus.)))
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2016 18: 04 New
        +5
        and the site receives 20%.

        And the tax is right there ...
      2. Kite
        Kite 22 August 2016 22: 36 New
        0
        Sorry that my counter was full on your comment, but reading the previous comments, I am surprised at how many people pay too much attention to the “rank” of their interlocutors. About subordination and appeal under the charter glory ..., no one hints! fellow
    11. moskowit
      moskowit 20 August 2016 17: 44 New
      +3
      It was so glorious in the marshals. You lie pondering what to write such a thing ... Beauty ... And now? Colonel ... Do not lie down .. You have to run ... And age? One is inspiring. Words by Leonid Ilyich regarding the film "They Fought for the Motherland." ...
      The then Minister of Defense Grechko Andrei Andreevich did not like that not a single general was shown in the film .... But Brezhnev on this occasion said: "The colonels won the war!" and the film was released. So comrades "colonels" go for it, write, more interesting, sharper. Good luck to you all dear commentators and "promotions"
    12. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 20 August 2016 18: 07 New
      +9
      And can I ask the moderators to return to me the "elders" epaulets - in my opinion the most beautiful?
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 20 August 2016 18: 30 New
        +4
        This, my dear, is the police epaulette ... And the police have special ranks. And this is not quite right. If you in the Army have earned this title "foreman" and you have it "in reserve", then "tady it certainly" ....
        But I remember when they switched from a “foreman T” to a longitudinal tongue ..... And under the last emperor, a longitudinal galun in pursuit denoted the title “ensign”. Very beautiful ... I would, honestly, have returned.
        I represent the shoulder strap of the ensign of the Odessa naval battalion ...
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 20 August 2016 19: 59 New
          +14
          This, my dear, is the police epaulette ... And the police have special ranks. And this is not quite right. If you in the Army have earned this title "foreman" and you have it "in reserve", then "tady it certainly" ....

          A colleague, this is primarily a title, and then “special” and everything else. I would look at you at the moment when you told the policeman (policeman) that he wears “not quite that” on his shoulders ... Surely, I’ll say with confidence that you would be convinced in the shortest possible time that everyone has the same bloodstream and share on the right and wrong shoulder straps simply would not allow ..
          It wasn’t the army men who died at special operations, and the army men didn’t carry out sweeps in the first and second companies, they blocked it. Think what you write ...
          I have the honor (retired police lieutenant colonel) ...
          1. Lieutenant colonel
            Lieutenant colonel 21 August 2016 05: 28 New
            +3
            I do not agree with you about the death of not “army men". I have the opposite long experience - when the VOVD and the ROVD are sitting on the "edges", and we rummage around the village. What to do with this? We have only division on the site on the principle of "who ate the most salt" and is not enough. There are already enough “categorical" writers.
            Although everyone has their own truth, and the whole "enemy was advancing precisely on me ....".
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 August 2016 11: 52 New
              +9
              I do not agree with you about the death of not “army men". I have the opposite long experience - when the VOVD and the ROVD are sitting on the "edges", and we rummage around the village. What to do with this?

              I also disagree with you. From my own practice, I have a bunch of reverse examples, when the VOVD (about the local police department - a separate song) was left without support in villages, in the green, and sometimes just beat on the POMs (it was personally with me, it was forbidden to make noise and wrote off "friendly fire" on suddenly descended from the mountains of shaitans). But I think that you and I are not discussing here in order to find out whose pencil is thicker.
              We have only division on the site on the principle of "who ate the most salt" and is not enough. There are already enough “categorical" writers.
              Although everyone has their own truth, and the whole "enemy was advancing precisely on me ....".

              I subscribe to your words hi
          2. moskowit
            moskowit 21 August 2016 08: 19 New
            +1
            You, my colleague, did not quite understand ... I had in mind a completely different thing. It was you who correctly noted that pride in one's form in any department should be at the highest level .. But the laws of military registration are tough. And if you are a “sergeant” military ticket commander of a department with a certain military academy, then be at least a general by special rank, then there is only one “sergeant” for mobilization !!!!
            It is clear that an officer with a special rank in the trench with an infantryman will not lie down, and his highly professional skills in the main specialty will be used .....
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 21 August 2016 09: 15 New
              +8
              You, my colleague, do not quite understand ...

              Accepted, I, too, got excited and took everything literally.
              ... And if you are a “sergeant” military ticket commander of a unit with a certain military academy, then be at least a general by special rank, then by mobilization everything is one “sergeant” !!!!.

              My VUS is 106. And I am the squad leader laughing Army rank - foreman. I am not shy about this, moreover, I am proud.
              ... It is clear that an officer with a special rank in the trench with an infantryman will not lie down, and his highly professional skills in the main specialty will be used ....

              Then you got excited. If necessary, my subordinates with the infantry both blocked, cleaned, and shared food (as a rule, army men had heavier food) ...
        2. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 20 August 2016 20: 58 New
          +5
          And I served in the army and in the police (pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) ... But the special rank, or military, does not change the beauty of the epaulet itself, be it army or police ...
    13. Juborg
      Juborg 20 August 2016 18: 30 New
      +28
      I AM WITH THIS UNEXPECTED WINE, ALREADY SORRY NOT FOR PARTICIPATE IN SLANG. From an intuitive site turned everything into a garbage can.
      1. Klava
        Klava 29 October 2018 04: 03 New
        0
        100%. Sections, archive by topics disappeared. Spoiled everything. I used to read every day. Now it’s even disgusting to enter. One word "improved." Hands must be cut off for such an “update”!
    14. vorobey
      vorobey 20 August 2016 18: 50 New
      +3
      and ... I've been going to this for so long ... laughing
    15. avt
      avt 20 August 2016 18: 56 New
      +9
      Yes, it’s not a question, for me it’s so if a broomstick of revenge has been taken in a new way, so completely reset to zero, so they say-and so is revolution and everyone is equal before it. And then the criterion is not clear, demotion. ,, Not 37 year old, "You have no right! The elder ordered!" bully Again, I did not understand - the archive of old comments has been reset? Or, too, somehow selectively? Something I went in today and didn’t find the old ones. request Well, the last, it’s for my personal taste, a white field .... no It looked pleasant on the contrast, but again, I personally like it that way.
    16. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 August 2016 19: 06 New
      +3
      This is generally normal. For me, so "marshall epaulettes" should be only among mozheratora. This is not only a right, but also a responsibility for the atmosphere of the entire site.
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    18. Kite
      Kite 20 August 2016 22: 24 New
      +15
      It's not about the ranks, although for some it has become a game and the meaning of visiting the forum. The fact is that the proverb was true: "the best is the enemy of the good." It got worse. Appearance (design) is very bad. This is because the source of funding is advertising, and she needed to allocate a more prominent place by reducing the field of text messages and comments.
      The desire to comment on something arises if you can see the response. Talking to the abyss - meaning? Now you can no longer find your last koment and will not recognize your counterpart.
      And of course - the innovations in the field for the input comment are something. When you try to scale the page (in order to better see and prevent overshooting), the comment field shifts beyond visibility. (on the laptop I’m not up to the forum, I describe how I see the site on the tablet). Even the "buttons": "Cancel-Send" are not visible behind the on-screen keyboard, there is no way to move the field.
      And shoulder straps - well, they attracted some conceited young men, but it was not worth it to ruin everything because of this.
    19. Havoc
      Havoc 21 August 2016 01: 07 New
      +14
      It is not clear why this was done, everything used to be simple and clear.
      I visit a lot of discussion sites, one gets the impression that power everywhere goes to liberals and Bender-Khokhlov. One fact of demotion says a lot, the lack of a flag. For myself, I decided if you do not return everything back, you have to say goodbye to the site. Moderators can explain?
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 22 August 2016 15: 51 New
        +1
        I completely agree ... Complete disappointment with new affairs at VO (except for titles and minuses without comment). It became boring and uninteresting. Now I’ll rarely drop in, and maybe I’m dying.
        1. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 22 August 2016 18: 33 New
          +1
          I'm already! It is a pity that the "business" won the mind. If you, "Evil Partisan", "Quail", "Ruslan67", and other inquires, register somewhere, beacon ... Yura has my "e-mail" ... He has everything, even illness, it infuriates ... Thank you friends! I'll meet you !!!
    20. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 21 August 2016 09: 48 New
      +1
      A cheerful day, hell, serious people have "vitral" epaulets to one place - and "shkolota" ... well, let them go to assert themselves on other sites.
    21. NordUral
      NordUral 21 August 2016 10: 20 New
      +2
      GKChP-2016 with the same result. Then they will make excuses, like those from August 1991.
    22. ammunition
      ammunition 21 August 2016 13: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow


      Firstly, you were demoted only for one rank, others on 5-6.
      ---------------------------
      But this is not the main thing. The main thing is that the site has become very inconvenient to use. And bulky too.
      I believe that the old site should be returned.
      And the ranks could be simply devalued. And introduce another criterion. And not the number of comments.
      --------------------
      By the way. Alexander. The fact that you still have the title as the Minister of Defense means that the ranks have not been moved enough.
    23. Black_PR
      Black_PR 21 August 2016 14: 47 New
      +4
      And I just got a lieutenant (((((..and demoted. I was dancing ...))))
      1. yegor_k
        yegor_k 22 August 2016 13: 07 New
        0
        I was the oldest, however :)))
    24. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 21 August 2016 21: 26 New
      0
      All marshals "shoot" ... However, a coup wink
    25. Abbra
      Abbra 22 August 2016 09: 09 New
      +1
      Only he began to decently live on a marshal's pension, broads - and demoted to major general. Well, at least the stripes left ... bully
    26. stas
      stas 22 August 2016 14: 29 New
      +4
      It seems that our lady came to work at VO.
      The VO site has lost its face as an education with the exam.
    27. Appraiser
      Appraiser 22 August 2016 16: 36 New
      0
      the main thing is not in rank, but in understanding ..... good
    28. kirpich
      kirpich 23 August 2016 03: 46 New
      0
      Exactly ... And, especially close ranks kept .... lol
      But this is so, in Kumowski .... winked
    29. L. A. A.
      L. A. A. 9 November 2016 12: 30 New
      0
      Why not one?
  2. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 20 August 2016 15: 06 New
    +9
    Unusual, but it became better.
    1. Alf
      Alf 20 August 2016 15: 09 New
      +58
      What is better?
      Yes, there were problems with weekly marshals, but now trolls with frank delirium are a complete expanse. No one can minus.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 13 New
        +10
        And what a long ban to send a troll? And the troll frankly does not give a damn about the minuses, he came running, crap and dumped.
        1. Alf
          Alf 20 August 2016 15: 19 New
          +19
          Indiscreet question-Why did some epaulettes feel better? And how did the administration decide who should lose it?
          Another question: I used to go in, immediately unfold my comments, and who reacted to them. Often, after engaging in controversy with the respondents. And now how to view your comments?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 21 New
            +3
            And you read the article
            1. Alf
              Alf 20 August 2016 15: 34 New
              +18
              I immediately went to my comments, without going through the entire article. And now we need to shovel everything.
          2. Gomel
            Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 40 New
            +24
            That's it, and when scrolling through an article, a bar line appeared at the top with the number of recent comments and direct links to comments in the article ... disappeared
            Bad.

            Your comments, new comments where to go?
            Bad.
          3. Very old
            Very old 20 August 2016 16: 34 New
            +5
            Alf, here A. Romanov and I were both marshals.
            Today he is Army General, and I am Colonel.
            But his rating was something like approx. XNUMX million points.
            And I have a little more than 180 thousand.

            Here is the answer to your question (the answer, as I understand it) hi
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 20 August 2016 16: 50 New
              +5
              Old, I looked at your page. You now have a rating of 0. There should be shoulder straps of an ordinary.

              Captain Gomel has a rating of 2158.
              I became an 127 Colonel.

              Something is wrong here.
        2. Gomel
          Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 25 New
          +35
          so what with the fact that the ban will go? after all, his comment will remain, with pluses, and will influence the opinions of others, regardless of the fact that he has uttered nonsense without facts and arguments. Take, for example, an article about Belarus and what kind of battles flare up because, firstly, they are not adequate, and, secondly, they simply do not like the personality of the AHL, and therefore write bad things about all Belarus and all Belarusians.

          Now it’s impossible to resist attempts to embroil the Russian Federation and the Republic of Bashkortostan; it’s enough for a troll to get plus 10 likes and all ... three and a half Belarusians on the website cannot oppose lies to anything, let them write 10 refuting comments with facts on the website, the effect described in the article above will work "I am of the same opinion" without thinking will put the likes on ....

          sad, I never thought that VO would turn into KONT so quickly ..., articles about the soldiers of Tartaria and other Russian Vedas will soon start to appear .....
          1. Leviton
            Leviton 20 August 2016 15: 35 New
            +21
            Here I fully support, without minuses (or do not like it) it is impossible to determine the opinion of members of the forum and some to the main article and "commentators". The style of the site can be tolerated, fall in love, the title is only for. but I would leave a minus
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 20 August 2016 16: 11 New
              +14
              I fully support you! Although I don’t put the cons myself, it was somehow more fun and interesting with them: many, having seen a user have a lot of minuses, did not miss the opportunity to add their minus without even reading his comment. This is not fair, but it is also not fair to take away the opportunity to put a minus to a boor and a provocateur.
          2. Verdun
            Verdun 20 August 2016 17: 35 New
            +32
            I would like to like - I would sit on VKontakte. Spoiled a good site.
        3. vasilev
          vasilev 20 August 2016 15: 26 New
          +18
          It was possible to recognize the inveterate troll by gray shoulder straps because of the minuses, but now they are all the same.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 20 August 2016 17: 38 New
            +1
            We will understand the new version and find a way. And yesterday the troll was not always calculated according to epaulettes. We also calculated according to the number of comments during the time — eight comments in 3 minutes and registration today. So go down slowly, slowly ...
        4. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
          +16
          That's it. Preparing for the influx, here such, came, shit and dumped.
          Now any inadequate who would simply be minded would troll to the fullest, anything.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 20 August 2016 17: 52 New
            0
            Does your nickname apply only to your comments or to everyone? On decent sites admins politely ask to change a similar obscenity. hi
        5. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 August 2016 17: 11 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And what a long ban to send a troll? Yes, and the troll frankly does not give a damn about the minuses, he came running, crap and dumped

          Alexander, but "in the ban" - where is it? In an emergency, or what? So this is not a ban at all ... laughing
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 20 August 2016 17: 56 New
            +1
            In the "ban" - this means to display "fleas" in the bath laughing
        6. stas
          stas 22 August 2016 14: 31 New
          +2
          Romanov was a freaking marshal, and he remained so.
      2. GHOST29RUS
        GHOST29RUS 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
        +33
        I support. Cons must be returned, at least for the evaluation of articles
        1. Alf
          Alf 20 August 2016 16: 02 New
          +10
          By cons to articles. Most of the articles were uploaded by the site administration. Further, I think, it is not necessary to say, sapient sat ...
        2. sniper
          sniper 20 August 2016 16: 06 New
          +6
          Damn ... The problem with quotes .... I'm talking about the minus ... Of course they are needed, only the opportunity to minus should appear in case of a response to the comment, so that it would be clear who put it and why. But is it technically possible?
          Type:
          GHOST29RUS Today, 15:14
          I support. Cons must be returned, at least for the evaluation of articles

          Liked (Did not like)
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 20 August 2016 15: 33 New
        +7
        Now, Urya-patriots, who flocked in a flock to everyone who has their own opinion, now do not clear up! laughing
        1. dali
          dali 20 August 2016 17: 30 New
          +9
          At having an opinion pounced on ... oh breach. I remember you often have your own opinion, but even after the denomination they remained general ... laughing
        2. Monos
          Monos 20 August 2016 18: 01 New
          +20
          Now, Urya-patriots, who flocked in a flock to everyone who has their own opinion, now do not clear up!


      4. Dimon19661
        Dimon19661 20 August 2016 16: 00 New
        0
        Yes, half the trolls-minuses will leave the site, then no, they are not interested.
        1. Alf
          Alf 20 August 2016 16: 54 New
          +45
          Yes, half the trolls-minuses will leave the site, then no, they are not interested.

          Half the sane ones will leave the site, and the trolls will just remain and will be glad that their feverish delirium will be taken for the truth.
          1. dali
            dali 20 August 2016 17: 26 New
            +11
            I agree 100% - bad without minuses.
          2. Smog
            Smog 20 August 2016 17: 31 New
            +12
            absolutely right. Carry any heresy and no one will stop you. And there are those who like to put. And as for the cheers of the patriots, lately we know them by name, even if they are shifted, and not always they + received. All the same, there are more adequate ones in VO ..
          3. Yuyuka
            Yuyuka 21 August 2016 00: 21 New
            +7
            yeah ... I have to support - the site has lost more than it gained ... it is a pity that the opinion of the sane is least taken into account ... not everyone has time to spend hours looking at the heap of comments - but now it's all in a heap. As they say - do not interfere with the debugged machine to work, or it was necessary to make changes in stages hi
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 21 August 2016 10: 20 New
        +2
        You write correctly, as with the elections - they removed the article against.
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 20 August 2016 15: 37 New
      +3
      The phone is not convenient
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 20 August 2016 15: 56 New
        +6
        Yes, from under the "android" it generally works in almost no way ... And, you won’t save much.
        1. Smirnov Vadim
          Smirnov Vadim 20 August 2016 16: 31 New
          +4
          More mobile version on the way. Update soon.
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 20 August 2016 17: 22 New
            +25
            Vadim, if I understood correctly, there will be no gray epaulettes now. And forum users will not be able to explain to the presumptuous boor that he is wrong. Those. The administration reserves this right - let it be. But how to draw your attention to such a troll?
            I always liked this site for its democracy, when the forum users themselves could send a boor or a provocateur to hell. Now it will not be?
            1. Yuri Y.
              Yuri Y. 20 August 2016 19: 57 New
              +18
              In vain they refused cons. By themselves, they are a light bulb. But they made it possible to determine the attitude, both political and emotional (in a sense, the same way, and in vain wail the cheers - the patriots) about the audience present. And draw conclusions about her. In my opinion, the site has lost its face, and maybe sought to this. Even shoulder straps (albeit fake ones) are meaningless. Everywhere there is an opportunity to express your negative opinion on a specific comment. In many cases, the frank troll does not want to answer. Further in my opinion there will be an increase in the number of liberals, I think the changes are for them.
          2. twviewer
            twviewer 20 August 2016 18: 06 New
            0
            It’s clear that this is not the full version yet, but it works much faster, I’m talking like a fan of thousands of open windows;) it’s a pity I just don’t see the old video inserts
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 21 August 2016 10: 23 New
              0
              I won’t say, I’m a little slower, there are hitches.
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 20 August 2016 15: 08 New
    +1
    A new color is striking in the eyes. But I like the control panel
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 20 August 2016 15: 23 New
      +4
      what color request - I have white pages
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 20 August 2016 15: 36 New
        0
        So conceived. Contrast
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 21 August 2016 10: 24 New
          +2
          In order not to linger on the site - contrast to the eyes is more harmful.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 20 August 2016 15: 36 New
        +3
        Indeed, is it possible to change the background color? After all, everyone has their own taste. what
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 20 August 2016 15: 52 New
          +1
          I go into courage and there the background is green, and my eyes are not so tired
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 20 August 2016 18: 36 New
            +4
            Green is good for the eyes (c)
        2. ver_
          ver_ 20 August 2016 18: 39 New
          0
          ..I like to use the library of Flibusta because of the color of the pages ...
  4. starogil
    starogil 20 August 2016 15: 08 New
    0
    Well, let’s be new.
  5. izya top
    izya top 20 August 2016 15: 08 New
    +15
    the old design impressed me more recourse well, it happened, and we’ll get used to the new one. I propose to abolish the ranks (at least in relation to those who do not want to be a marshal) and I suggest starting with me repeat
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
      +1
      So you are already a colonel wink
      1. izya top
        izya top 20 August 2016 15: 30 New
        +6
        So you are already a colonel
        But can you even become a civilian, without shoulder straps? repeat
    2. atalef
      atalef 20 August 2016 15: 18 New
      +3
      well, it happened, and we’ll get used to the new one. I propose to abolish the ranks (at least in relation to those who do not want to be a marshal) and I suggest starting with me

      You have already been demoted.
      Somehow the quotes are not textured, it is not clear from whom.
      Not familiar.
      1. fantast
        fantast 20 August 2016 15: 42 New
        +3
        We will still work with quotes
        1. dali
          dali 20 August 2016 17: 32 New
          +2
          By the way, why does the Opera slow down so much, the old design did not slow down !!!
          1. Darth Revan
            Darth Revan 20 August 2016 21: 48 New
            +7
            Slows down not only in the Opera, Vivaldi also mutes. It is clear that the new face of the site was made by the co -akers. Background, hurts the eye, while he waited for the answer window to open, managed to sleep lol My opinion is that the new design is crooked and bad.
    3. Zulu_S
      Zulu_S 20 August 2016 15: 23 New
      +2
      That soldier is bad ...
    4. g1v2
      g1v2 20 August 2016 15: 25 New
      +38
      Yeah, how unusual it became. The old design still impressed more. And the color scheme is controversial.
      As for the cancellation of the minuses - the decision is also controversial. Although I often wrote comments for which I initially knew that I would get a bunch of minuses, but if the attitude to what was written by me or by someone else is negative, how then should this be expressed? It seems to me that it was nevertheless done so that some reputable comrades from abroad would not be driven into the minus.
      Disabling minuses for articles is of course a normal thing, as people putting a minus put it not on the article, but on the news itself. Who wrote the article suffers for nothing.
      As for increasing the number of points for the ranks. And what prevents, as before, people from gaining points by throwing slogans? Just slogans need more and all. request Those who need it very much will return their titles very quickly. hi
      1. fantast
        fantast 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
        +6
        Quote: g1v2
        As for the cancellation of the minuses - the decision is also controversial. Although I often wrote comments for which I initially knew that I would get a bunch of minuses, but if the attitude to what was written by me or by someone else is negative, how then should this be expressed? It seems to me that it was nevertheless done so that some reputable comrades from abroad would not be driven into the minus.


        So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.
        1. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 17 New
          +14
          For example, I reasonably expressed my opinion on the comments that were criticized, but before subtracting all the points of view in the comments, it was much easier to first orient ourselves in the parties to the reasoned dispute precisely by the extreme values ​​of the estimates, EVPOCHY. I am not a supporter of sliding into “myself” at all, but a frankly anti-Russian position on a patriotic website should be minuscule or specially marked (like the way that previously minuscule discussion participants were marked with shoulder straps with skulls). It is not a question of cap-making, they say, Russia is a champion, and everything that needs to be burned against. I write that the anti-scientific and pseudo-scientific theories that developed with the weakening of statehood, related to the falsification of history, in my opinion should not be openly replicated (no one will plus, well, there will be such a neutral comment with zero). A patriotic website should set an example in this both for ordinary citizens (and also to protect the uncritically minded masses from misinformation) and the government (which frankly weakly works in this direction).
        2. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 26 New
          +7
          Outwardly looking like reasoned opinions, they are sometimes a relay of propaganda aimed at falsifying history. Such pseudo-historical theories are widely known, here in the comments I gave specific examples of their relay. Now the spokesmen for such ideas are neutrally published on a patriotic website (such comments have a zero rating), and few people know how to reasonably counteract them, and even less who want to.
          1. Seal
            Seal 21 August 2016 09: 41 New
            0
            If you believe that the wild nomads of the hulk, who were appointed to be "Mongols" in the 19th century, once conquered half the world, which, incidentally, is unscientific from a military point of view, this does not mean at all that your position is "scientific "
            There are tons of more logical alternatives. But since you personally want Russia to have such a black, but absolutely unproven period, like the “Mongol yoke” - instead of providing reasoned evidence for this “yoke”, you immediately began to sprinkle that “Ay, guard, this Fomenko, this is Fomenko !!! ". Even if “this Fomenko” was not standing nearby. Moreover, you demand something to “burn out”. But is it not better to burn out from history all that for which clear documentary evidence is not presented?
            1. Navigator Basov
              Navigator Basov 22 August 2016 23: 45 New
              0
              What do I demand to burn out? What do I demand at all? Did not try to read? Ah, yes, they were appointed in the 19th century, and personally I want a black period. He invented something, passed it off as my words, and denied it. Technology, however!
        3. figwam
          figwam 20 August 2016 17: 06 New
          0
          So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.

          And now you can vote for the comment, either abstained, or plus.
        4. Retvizan
          Retvizan 20 August 2016 17: 07 New
          +2
          Well, the description says that the site is not going to change "Patriotism". So in any case, any "foreigner" or opinion will be criticized, cons.
          The Ukrainians were removed just because of the opposite opinion. Belarusians were even less than Ukrainians.
          On the site it’s generally difficult to argue with everyone (either a minus or a ban - only “loyal opposition” is allowed) However, quite often “foreigners” themselves were to blame for the rather emotional and rude form of comments.
          It’s very bad that in the pursuit of patriotism, the rules are forgotten that they do not incite hatred and do not specially distort words (they especially sin against Ukraine and Ukrainians - so many are thought up that they can’t be counted, there are also a lot of Israelis, Americans)
        5. dali
          dali 20 August 2016 18: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: fantast
          So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.

          Not really yours ... give an example of such pens. Maybe all the same, for the most part it was a reaction to explicit demagoguery-slander ...
        6. Cat man null
          Cat man null 20 August 2016 18: 42 New
          +11
          Quote: fantast
          So in the cons they drove very often those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing in the same way, without making any efforts, simply stupidly minuscated, and this is often led to one-sided opinions on the site

          - exactly negative
          - but now there will be a complete polygamy, democracy and air comfort
          - to me personally it all reminds me of a car with a gas pedal and without a brake pedal

          Somehow yes

          UPD: Font color change doesn’t work, or am I dull?
        7. your1970
          your1970 20 August 2016 22: 19 New
          +6
          Now people will write monotonous comments like “DO NOT APPROVE”, and on the other hand, explicit trolls killed on their heads now will not go away as quickly as before. Previously, they put them normal / sane people a couple of hundred minuses and it was clear why, but now- well, 2-3 people will write negative comments, the rest will be too lazy, and if God forbid not to be too lazy, then the discussion of the article will be reduced to writing comments not to the article - but to expose a specific character

          With the background, a complete ambush is impossible to read.
          with their comments and the reaction of readers to them, too, not everything is clear
        8. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 August 2016 16: 20 New
          +6
          The minuses must be returned ... and the one-sidedness has nothing to do with it. Only instead of completely removing the minus key, one had to strain and make it possible to put the minus only after arguing for one’s position. You removed the main highlight of the site, IT'S EASY TO COMMUNICATE! Now, in order to find my post, I have to go through Kamchatka ...
          Plus, now the forum users do not understand whether the interlocutors answered them on their post or not ... generally wonderful.
          And the third: I sat on the site for half an hour, my eyes were gone, because of the white background.
          Why did you enlarge the format? Before, everything was clear and convenient, but now one small comment covers the entire page ...
          1. unsinkable
            unsinkable 21 August 2016 21: 41 New
            +3
            I put * + * to all who are for the return * - *. hi
        9. Kite
          Kite 22 August 2016 22: 56 New
          0
          they didn’t bother me, I even got an idea of ​​the average temperature in ...
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
        +4
        As for the cancellation of minuses - the decision is also controversial
        It seems to me that this is nevertheless done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses.

        That's it, your fun is over! It has long been necessary to cancel! laughing
        1. cedar
          cedar 20 August 2016 18: 38 New
          +3
          MINUS LIVED, MINUS ALIVE, MINUS WILL LIVE! FROM IT. am
          1. Simpsonian
            Simpsonian 20 August 2016 20: 18 New
            +1
            it’s better to think about why, completely within the framework, but I will share anti-homosexual comments are deleted with greetings, and it happens that whole users
      3. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 20 August 2016 16: 01 New
        +9
        Yeah, how unusual it became. The old design still impressed more. And the color scheme is controversial.
        Somehow at home it was laughing The fact that the information is now on the topics is normal, but for me the subsections were more convenient. Now in a bunch of everything. Although, this is my personal opinion.
      4. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 20 New
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        It seems to me that this is nevertheless done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses.
        Hodor. Hodor-hodor! laughing
      5. cedar
        cedar 21 August 2016 05: 15 New
        +1
        [quote] It seems to me that this is still done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses. [/ quote

        The top ten opals, dear [b] [/ b]
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 August 2016 00: 20 New
          +6
          And to us, authoritative comrades from abroad, that now
          order to do ??? am
          Earlier, Baron Rodschild paid me for every minus a patriot
          Hebrew a dollar, and the Rockefeller banker added two more.
          Somehow making ends meet ...
          And now - rotten. angry some pluses recourse
          1. DarkMatter
            DarkMatter 22 August 2016 00: 35 New
            +2
            Conclude a new contract, fiercely plus all-crawler and inadequate laughing
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 22 August 2016 01: 12 New
              +2
              Uh, with these Zion wise men while you face them, with their rotten
              world conspiracy, it's easier to get drunk and forget ... drinks
              And I’ll do it, I’ll go to sleep. recourse
      6. cedar
        cedar 21 August 2016 05: 23 New
        +1
        It seems to me that this is still done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses


        In the top ten, dear.
        However, preparations are underway for the elections ...
    5. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 15: 55 New
      0
      IZYA, do not go forward dad
      Maybe not everyone will agree with us, but from the marshal's arms are already rippling in the eyes
  6. Days
    Days 20 August 2016 15: 09 New
    +18
    And the flags next to the comment?
    The site seems empty after such a radical design change.
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
      +7
      Flags will be back later
      1. atalef
        atalef 20 August 2016 15: 35 New
        +11
        Flags will be back later

        All flags will be visiting us !!!
        Dear science fiction, what is the situation with the simpler (old) quotation procedure, so that it would be clear whose quote, that it would not need to be done through copy-pest, then of course the keys in the article itself are your comments, new comments --- without this is neither really bad to navigate.
        With respect . Alexander.
        1. cap
          cap 20 August 2016 16: 56 New
          +5
          Alexander You are absolutely right. I agree with you. I’m sure all admins will process all the comments, but probably not all at once. As long as I read your comment I’m tired of the white background.
          Wait and see.
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 20 August 2016 16: 09 New
        +3
        All the same, the flag could somehow somehow judge the direction of a person’s views ...
        At one time, I myself asked that I have a red flag ... But then, after changing to Russian, I did not protest, because sometimes extremely radical (to put it mildly) calls and exclamations were heard under the red flag ...
      3. Monos
        Monos 20 August 2016 16: 11 New
        +10
        Just do not need me again to return the Romanian flag. I'm tired of explaining that I'm not a tinker!
    2. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 15: 57 New
      +3
      But the flags ... I want to live under my flag, native
  7. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 20 August 2016 15: 10 New
    0
    We will get used to it of course. Where are we going?
  8. Isum
    Isum 20 August 2016 15: 10 New
    +6
    Putin got to Marshals VO ......
    1. tomket
      tomket 20 August 2016 15: 36 New
      +3
      Rather Serdyukov))))
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 20 August 2016 16: 04 New
      +2
      Like Stalin. Tot Kulika in Major General. And I'm cooler, colonels. wassat
    3. ver_
      ver_ 20 August 2016 18: 47 New
      0
      ... smiled ..
  9. Svetoch
    Svetoch 20 August 2016 15: 10 New
    +6
    Like button I definitely like it. Often the news worthy of attention but unpleasant in content went to minus.
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 13 New
      0
      That's what they did for it.
      1. Very old
        Very old 20 August 2016 16: 00 New
        +6
        And return the arrow: up and down - people need to talk
        We are here for communication
      2. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 34 New
        0
        Tell me, in Chrome, the block for evaluating the article during the tests did you clearly display correctly? I have an active link on the word Like extends to the left border of the star, while it is also shifted down half the height of the line. Although logically this is just a poor layout, and the star image should have a separate link at all for the size of the image, but it seems to me that this behavior is manifested only in me. Please check whether this site needs to be repaired, or my browser? If necessary, I’ll look into the debugging data, but so far I don’t want to do this.
      3. You Vlad
        You Vlad 20 August 2016 17: 59 New
        +8
        Arguments to crawl the minuses are somehow inconsistent. The system worked in both directions, depending on the opinion of those reading this comment! One could understand the greater opinion of the masses on the resource, who did not even write comments and when they didn’t write! My opinion is that the resource gravitates towards a large audience! Well, looking for your own and new comments you lose a lot of time, it’s not convenient! Good luck in development!
  10. michurinec
    michurinec 20 August 2016 15: 12 New
    +9
    All the same, good articles with bad news will not like.
  11. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 20 August 2016 15: 12 New
    +1
    Somewhat unexpectedly .. But it looks fresh) Good luck in development!
  12. Voyager
    Voyager 20 August 2016 15: 13 New
    +6
    Unusual, but fresh. At first, I didn’t like some of the innovations in the form of the inability to put a minus, etc., then I remembered that this was not particularly necessary and there was nothing wrong with that. Perhaps communication here will become more cultural.

    This new plane in design is annoying - it was not at all necessary to mow under the apple with their minimalism :( white color could be dimmed if there is still such an opportunity. Believe me, reading and navigating will become easier, but it's all in my opinion.

    But overall thanks! It's nice that the site administration does not want to stand still and still takes steps to improve local amenities :)
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 48 New
      +4
      white color could be suppressed if there is still such a possibility. Believe me, reading and navigating will become easier, but this is all in my opinion.


      think about it ...
      1. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 20 August 2016 16: 05 New
        +8
        There are sections, but there will be no subsections? As before, in the shooter there, well, etc.?
        In general, I liked the old design more, it’s just more convenient, at least for me. It was impossible to get by with less “blood”, just remove the cons and titles to correct, and leave the design?
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2016 16: 07 New
        +18
        Could you think first and then do it?
        Is it really impossible to test the new design, say, changing the site for one week, and then counting all the pros and cons?
      3. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 20 August 2016 16: 39 New
        +7
        Good day, Andrey.
        I join the request for white, it hurts too much)))
        And yet - articles and comments occupy only half the screen (left), and the entire right half is empty or in links ... It was not very convenient to perceive the information. By the way, now I’m writing and ... I don’t see what I’m writing - the keyboard interferes))) Good luck in good endeavors, it was high time to freshen up.)))
      4. Bloodsucker
        Bloodsucker 20 August 2016 18: 09 New
        0
        Why, when scrolling through the previous comments, does the site freeze right away, or does it not display what it requested?
  13. figwam
    figwam 20 August 2016 15: 13 New
    +1
    Well, you give a pancake! We will live now in a new way.
  14. Observer2014
    Observer2014 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
    +4
    Wow! laughing
    At first we were shocked! But then nothing calmed down. bully
  15. yurii p
    yurii p 20 August 2016 15: 14 New
    +8
    it's time to do this for a long time, otherwise I don’t want to discuss the topic sometimes, many people who get + go to a golly rya-patriotism, such as “throwing their caps”, without arguing and not presenting YOUR own opinion, using newspaper cliches.
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 50 New
      +1
      This is one of the main reasons for the abolition of cons. Good thing you understand that.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 20 August 2016 18: 20 New
        +2
        Maybe the Marshals “Shaposhnikovs” (as I call them) will leave the site with a new order, with their brainless urry-giggling on any topic. Without a doubt, you have to believe in your Homeland and in your Weapons, but whatever modern weapons are discussed, they have an answer ready for everything: "... another cut of stupid ov ..!" etc. etc. As long as you find sensible comments in this wilds (informative information, your own experience or a reasoned refutation of an established opinion), then 7 pots can sometimes come down.
        I, like some comrades, are higher in the text for returning flags.
        1. dali
          dali 20 August 2016 18: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Maybe the Marshals “Shaposhnikovs” (as I call them) will leave the site with a new order, with their brainless urry-giggling on any topic. Without a doubt, you have to believe in your Homeland and in your Weapons, but whatever modern weapons are discussed, they have an answer ready for everything: "... another cut of stupid ov ..!" etc. etc. As long as you find sensible comments in this wilds (informative information, your own experience or a reasoned refutation of an established opinion), then 7 pots can sometimes come down.

          And somehow I did not notice these so-called wilds ...

          But now the same spiteful critics of Russia will be nice and free ... what do you oppose them? As they say in Russia, "For everyone you don’t have a hello !!!"
      2. sds87
        sds87 20 August 2016 20: 25 New
        +12
        Stop. Stop. Stop. Cancellation of minuses will not affect the "Hurray" comments. On the contrary, it will only aggravate this matter. I understand that you, dear fantast You are the father (or one of the fathers) of the new VO design. So already they wrote about the barely loading commentary tape and the lack of cons for frankly Troll comments. Figs with straps and shoulder straps - not for this I write, but in order to express my opinion and to know the opinion of others on my opinion. Now it is not recognizable either by ratings or by comments. It is not possible to find your comments and continue the discussion. I will write this comment now and will not find it. It’s like in social networks - an endless stream without history. Discussions are completely killed. He spoke up and went for a walk.
      3. cedar
        cedar 21 August 2016 05: 53 New
        +12
        Dear, fantast, what no, but there was an element of democracy. No one, when voting, asks: “Justify, justify why you raised your hand“ for ”or“ against. ”They count the votes and make decisions based on them. And everyone understands.
        I often wondered why at VO some directly experienced the minuses inserted by him, without a detailed report of why and for what. That's how interesting they slept and ate, and were there any serious diseases due to nervous breakdown, maybe we don’t know what ..?
        It’s the business of administrators to ban and hang epaulettes and we don’t meddle in your affairs and do not think to meddle, well, you would leave us the right to vote, and somehow the “chancellor act” is reminded ...
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 20 August 2016 15: 15 New
    +3
    Goodbye golden shoulder straps! crying laughing
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 August 2016 16: 14 New
      +4
      They said: “Rear Admiral is not a title, but happiness ...” Many who said such things are no longer there, but caperangs, nothing, live for themselves, without such “happiness”.
      So - be on the "centenarians!" yes
  17. Mihail55
    Mihail55 20 August 2016 15: 15 New
    +38
    It got a lot worse! It would be better if we made a clear order ... a huge band in the answers in time. It’s difficult to track how much anyone gave comments. We don’t care about the ranks and minuses, we don’t go for the same thing here. Here infa is much more objective than on TV. I apologize for the grunts, but they are not looking for good from good.
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 51 New
      0
      Much worse what? Write more clearly please
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2016 16: 13 New
        +27
        Explain available.
        1. In the Armament section, return the breakdown by combat arms.
        2. In PM, return your comments, your rating in numbers.
        3. Return the opportunity to find your comments directly in the article.
        4. Return the system of minuses (with a change-If you put a minus, I must give a comment for what). Otherwise, the site will instantly drown due to troll attacks.
        5. Enter a rating increase or decrease according to the "Literacy" characteristic. It is not difficult to do this, but the program for removing mat and cursing is working.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 21 August 2016 00: 35 New
          +1
          and can add points for the usefulness of the comment? sometimes negative comment is interesting if argued! but the type of "the right path, comrades" is finally uninteresting! there were pros and cons for this request
        2. Understanding
          Understanding 21 August 2016 07: 24 New
          +14
          1. In the Armament section, return the breakdown by combat arms.
          2. In PM, return your comments, your rating in numbers.
          3. Return the opportunity to find your comments directly in the article.
          4. Return the system of minuses (with a change-If you put a minus, I must give a comment for what). Otherwise, the site will instantly drown due to troll attacks.
          5. Enter a rating increase or decrease according to the "Literacy" characteristic. It is not difficult to do this, but the program for removing mat and cursing is working.


          In short, return the site!
          1. isker
            isker 21 August 2016 07: 45 New
            +8
            Verily!
            Previously, the site resembled one wide highway with a bunch of traffic lanes, and now - 10000000000 bypass dirt paths for cyclists ...
            In short - We wanted the best, but it turned out ...

            The only reasonable grain in all discussions of innovations - An indispensable explanation of the drawback minus - For what exactly did you slap it to him? .. For hurray-quackers already got it ...
        3. Commodus
          Commodus 24 August 2016 00: 14 New
          0
          I completely agree. The new design does not like at all.
      2. Donhapa
        Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 09 New
        +7
        Where are country flags?
      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 August 2016 17: 10 New
        +41
        Much worse what? Write more clearly please

        Honestly, that’s all. Ergonomics were particularly affected. Previously, the News, Economics and Politics column lived quietly and peacefully in the same band, you go to the site and you can immediately see what's new. Now, for some reason, they have been greatly “pushed apart” —this is the most necessary information that this news was added at eighteen hours on August 20. - Now even news with a short name takes two lines. Moreover, the news is now "across", but not all, but you want everything - either go to the appropriate section or wiggle the arrows on the main site. Well, why is this?
        Previously, there was a clear flow of information "in a column", i.e. the arrangement of news and articles from top to bottom is convenient and natural for the eyes. Now everything is for some reason across. I look at the analyst’s section, the Big Announcement immediately catches my eye - Erdogan’s Pyrrhic victory! I look below, where the rest of the materials are laid out on a line, I read ... Pyrrhic victory of Erdogan!
        I open the article. There are new comments, but to find them, you need to scroll through the entire tape. There were no problems before - a splash screen popped up with new comments. You could at least go over your own comments, see if anyone answered. Now there is none of this. The zrada is complete.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 August 2016 18: 03 New
          +15
          The window for responding to a comment is just some kind of ambush. A sort of “miracle” comes out on 2/3 of the discussion tape, completely blocking the text of the comment you are responding to - and think about where to attach it so that you can insert quotes normally. Quotes, by the way, do not want to be inserted normally - instead of being copied to the response window for a comment, for some reason they are copied to the top window, which is used to add new comments to the article. Of course, copying from there into the response window for the comment is easy, but then you have to wind the whole tape again in search of the comment you are responding to ...
          But there was an "archival" function to publish a quote from a comment on Facebook or some other twitter. No, well, seriously - who will do it, and why? I don’t know, maybe someone needs it, but cutting important functions and adding what one out of a thousand will use ... is strange
        2. Brain Yurich
          Brain Yurich 20 August 2016 21: 32 New
          +14
          I fully support. I'm not a veteran here, but honestly, if everything remains as it is, I will have to change the resource due to unreadability
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 August 2016 22: 17 New
            +3
            That's what is interesting - because of the disappearance of the arrow prompting the comment to which you are responding, you will not immediately realize whether you are writing to me or to someone else. hi
            1. Brain Yurich
              Brain Yurich 21 August 2016 05: 39 New
              +4
              Yes, I myself can’t understand to whom you write to me or to another) two people can now quarrel because someone thought that they were writing something about him))
      4. SergeBS
        SergeBS 20 August 2016 18: 00 New
        +9
        The message "Loading ..." at the top and awesome sizes EMPTY in width to the right of the bar is definitely "SUPERPLUS". + 5 years to the study of tags, more specifically, to those "geniuses" who "made happy" with a new design (freaks, in short).
        "The broadest gamut of colors": WHOLE THREE - black (text), white (background EVERYWHERE), red (some buttons and title) - definitely "progress". Right "new word, brilliant"! And the red color was what for, they would have removed it. What to trifle, chop - so everything is “color”.
        A sort of black and white "color scheme" would be. Minimalistic, again, you can watch it on b / w telly without loss of quality (if you find such a telly).
        1. Brain Yurich
          Brain Yurich 21 August 2016 05: 40 New
          +1
          so that it looks on BW smartphones)
  18. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    +1
    And what will happen with the mobile version, there were a number of lags.
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 51 New
      +1
      Mobile version will be approximately days in 10
  19. sabakina
    sabakina 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    +10
    If I am subject to appeal, please leave me as a senior warrant officer. Nostalgia, you know ...
  20. Res_Ullus
    Res_Ullus 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow

    And for some, life makes no sense wink IMHO
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 20 August 2016 15: 30 New
      +4
      And I even seem to know for whom wassat
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 16: 03 New
      +3
      Raise your hand ... and drop it sharply.
      Marshal of a month exposure ... I will not say anything
  21. NDR-791
    NDR-791 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    +1
    Yes, you really have to master it almost in a new way, but I like what is stated. The main thing is that everything works immediately and without jambs, otherwise there will be many misunderstandings !!!
    1. fantast
      fantast 20 August 2016 15: 53 New
      +3
      Report a jamb. The one who does nothing is not mistaken.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 20 August 2016 16: 19 New
        +4
        In the article about the "Video tower of Almaty" I searched for a very long time where to leave a comment? So nowhere! I found something similar in the upper right corner (orange). Unsubscribed, somewhere gone ... there is no comment in the profile. Well, okay, let's figure it out !, as Vladimir Semenovich said. And while I can’t find "to quote" - only "answer or complain" pop up, although people are quoting with might and main. And as long as you hit the answer with one finger, it’s not clear who answered.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 August 2016 16: 20 New
        +17
        It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.

        using the site you involuntarily recall jokes about programmers
      3. Donhapa
        Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 14 New
        +4
        It slows down very much ...
        How to highlight an opponent’s comment?
        In short, the FSB specifically filters VO
      4. VladimS
        VladimS 20 August 2016 18: 58 New
        +18
        There is a saying among techies: It works - do not touch!
        However, as usual. We wanted the best - it turned out as always.
  22. oldzek
    oldzek 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    +7
    at my age it’s hard to put up with new products, but try to cope.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 20 August 2016 16: 58 New
      +11
      All the same, it somehow hits the eyes ...
      I, too, am sitting in glasses that I wear only for reading books, and somehow ... it’s uncomfortable or something ... And it’s cutting my eyes ...

      Maybe even make the background grayish gray so as not to “hit” the eyes?
  23. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    0
    Nice, kind of comfortable. On mobile screens shows the norms?
    1. kirgudu
      kirgudu 24 August 2016 03: 00 New
      0
      It is basically usable there. Everything slows down terribly.
  24. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 16 New
    0
    Quote: fantast
    That's what they did for it.

    Check check
    1. atalef
      atalef 20 August 2016 15: 44 New
      +6
      When you click on a comment (in the general stream of comments), the link does not display you on this comment in the article.
      I hope that it’s just underestimated because without this, commenting is simply a problem.
      1. fantast
        fantast 20 August 2016 15: 56 New
        +3
        We will return this opportunity later.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 56 New
        0
        Sanya is temporary, then fix
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 20 August 2016 17: 31 New
          +4
          Am I missing something? what
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 20 August 2016 18: 54 New
            +6
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Am I missing something?

            - for sure. Small Armageddon in VO fellow
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  25. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 20 August 2016 15: 17 New
    +7
    Wow! .. Not every general can be demoted to captain laughing
  26. Makarov
    Makarov 20 August 2016 15: 17 New
    +34
    Well, here is my personal opinion. I do not like the new design. I spit on the ranks. Get ready to face the problem of trolling. Given the popularity of the resource, I hope you have enough moderators.
    1. dali
      dali 20 August 2016 17: 51 New
      +9
      They wanted the best, but it turned out as always ... at the expense of the trolls I agree - will there be enough moderators ?! belay Yes, and the rating of the moderator is still the assessment of one person - and subjectivity is not going anywhere !!!

      You won’t accept a million moderators - because minus really helped you too !!!

      And all systems have disadvantages, and the system with minuses also, however, keep the blow of our so-called "partners", etc. etc. this system allowed. And not all people who are quite worthy know how to express themselves correctly, but all our friends from abroad are quite proficient in demagogy and verbiage ...

      The old design was much more informative, if only because there was much more information per unit area of ​​the screen and at the same time it did not interfere with each other.
  27. Nonna
    Nonna 20 August 2016 15: 17 New
    +70
    The site has become like everyone else. White background, a couple of pictures - bald, uncomfortable. The old one had its own wonderful design. Why redo the best for the worse? All the marshalls there did not bother me, because I did not even know what they were. Buttons minus no - this is censorship. If, for example, a person writes - you (the opponent) are weak-witted, will you write a rationale in response to him that you are not?
    1. Gomel
      Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
      +29
      that's it, now the welded team of trolls, or even worse, the team of the “probable enemy” will be easier - you can always wind up more advantages on your comment than on a reasoned objection.

      Plus, it was clear before: you point the cursor at the pros and cons counter and see how much for and how much against the opinion. it usually became clear that the battle was going on and if the comment was liking - you support the author with a plus, it is easier than to write a new comment in response and lie.
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  28. Dan4eG
    Dan4eG 20 August 2016 15: 18 New
    +2
    Well, finally, the expression of your thoughts (within the law) can be done without fear of falling under the wrath of the people!
    1. aba
      aba 20 August 2016 16: 47 New
      +6
      you can do without fear of falling under the wrath of the people!

      How is the forum ?!
      Something is hard to believe that there you showed yourself not very well (to put it mildly), but here within the law.
      So here we will spoil ... sad
    2. Donhapa
      Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 20 New
      +1
      Do not be afraid of the opinions of the people!
    3. Cat man null
      Cat man null 20 August 2016 23: 58 New
      +9
      Quote: Dan4eG
      ... expression of your thoughts can be done ...

      - I wonder what language it is written in.
      - in fact, systems without negative feedback are usually unstable and prone to self-destruction (this is again about the "cons")

      Voooot ... laughing
  29. Pitot
    Pitot 20 August 2016 15: 19 New
    +1
    No matter how it is designed, the main thing is to be interesting and informative.
    1. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 17: 11 New
      +20
      And here let me disagree with you, Pitot.
      Well, the bare white background is not very happy, before that I read without glasses.
      Now you have to go into the settings specifically for the VO in order to set the font readable.
      (this is for junk like me)
  30. Couchexpert
    Couchexpert 20 August 2016 15: 20 New
    +10
    First VK, now VO ... Who is next? We are betting, gentlemen!
    1. Gomel
      Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 47 New
      +5
      Before VO was KONT
      and VK has a more marginal contingent
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 28 New
      0
      Is this what this topic is all about?
      1. Gomel
        Gomel 20 August 2016 15: 50 New
        +31
        and this is by the way an illustration of the fact that taking away the minuses is a clear mistake of the administration.

        In the old version, the minutes would be stuck and everything is clear - the person is a balobol, a troll and a fluder - and the further attitude towards him in OTHER topics has already been formed, but now 2 likes stand, is it normal?
        1. Smog
          Smog 20 August 2016 17: 46 New
          +8
          And not 2 but 7, and you won’t do anything. Although here a friend seems to have launched this on purpose.
          1. dali
            dali 20 August 2016 19: 01 New
            +5
            Quote: Smog
            And not 2 but 7, and you won’t do anything. Although here a friend seems to have launched this on purpose.

            Maybe a troll, or maybe you're right - not the point.
            The important thing is that I agree with you and Gomel completely - canceling the minuses is a 100% miss, unless of course ... I don’t even want to talk about it am
  32. atalef
    atalef 20 August 2016 15: 21 New
    +26
    and where are the buttons
    Your comments
    New comments
    Without this, it’s really bad.
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 15: 56 New
      +4
      Usually, after such updates, secondary functions are added a little later, I think those responsible for the site are not fools, they will return amenities, but at a new level.
      1. Rader
        Rader 20 August 2016 23: 09 New
        0
        Usually, after such updates, secondary functions are added a little later, I think those responsible for the site are not fools, they will return amenities, but at a new level.

        Well, your words, I hope, are close to reality. After all, the functions listed by Atalef are by no means secondary, and without them the convenience of using the portal is reduced significantly.
        I will join the criticism of the new color composition of the site, namely the white White WHITE background (after 10 minutes my eyes started to leak ...).
        Yes, on my small screen, the text occupies hardly 60%. For fun, I launched the site on TV and was horrified! Text takes up a quarter of the screen! (Although it used to take 2/3)
        By the minuses (although the meaning was in them, but it is mentioned in the comments before me) I will not particularly miss, because I tried not to use this tool ...
        When writing this comment, I came across the following problem: The "reply to comment" window takes up too much space (there is only the page header at the top, the same amount of space at the bottom. Well, the avatars are visible on the left ...). The window itself can be dragged, but it is of little use. Need a button to "minimize", well, or the ability to resize the window.
        Good luck to the VO team in updating the site. hi I hope all the bugs will be fixed, and the site will be no worse than before in terms of convenience wink laughing
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 21 August 2016 07: 40 New
          +3
          While he was going to answer Atalef, on Android, everything moved God knows where. On Android it got worse before it was fine. MAIL --- sent yesterday, today. Several, EvgNik and today to Alexander Romanov - I did not reflect in the sent, although a color message came. I got past comments I deleted ?????? How to save. Regarding the minuses --- I sometimes put cons for bad, disrespectful words, and didn’t explain --- it seemed to me that this was understandable. I myself didn’t call anyone bad words! I also didn’t explain if the previous ones put the minuses explained. If I put the minuses and didn’t explain --- I can understand the convictions of others. Administration: return the cons! I agree to explain if this will be universal her wish! w
        2. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 21 August 2016 08: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Rader
          After all, the functions listed by Atalef are by no means secondary, and without them the convenience of using the portal is reduced significantly.
          Objectively, they are secondary. Most comment sites do without them.
          Quote: Rader
          white to WHITE background (after 10 minutes eyes started to flow out ...).
          I recommend adjusting the screen brightness and other characteristics according to the ergonomic recommendations of the device / monitor user manual. These ergonomic recommendations are always somewhere at the end of the manual. In particular, everything is fine with the background, my eyes do not follow from any site with a white background, or from Word or anything else. Actually, I don’t even remember (because you don’t pay attention to the correctly chosen background) what background was on the previous site, but it seems to be completely white as well. The gray dice for comments were sort of, but the background was white.
  33. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 20 August 2016 15: 22 New
    +4
    was a colonel, became a lieutenant ???? by what criteria did they drop the military rank on the site? although it is not so important for me, but still?
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 20 August 2016 15: 27 New
      +1
      Accordingly, by which they deprived of the title of Jean Paul Piskunov .... laughing
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman 20 August 2016 15: 45 New
      +2
      I understand that this is a banal proportion. they took for a 100% marshal, for 0 - an ordinary. Counted your (and all users) points, a simple formula. Then they drove to new standards and now .... with the marshal, I became a colonel. not sickly so laughing
      Although essentially all the same!
      1. Alf
        Alf 21 August 2016 20: 51 New
        0
        I understand that this is a banal proportion. they took for a 100% marshal, for 0 - an ordinary. Counted your (and all users) points, a simple formula. Then they drove to new standards and here ....

        It’s just not clear what kind of marshal was taken as a reference point? Who just got epaulets with 100.000 or who has 500.000?
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    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 15: 57 New
      0
      It doesn’t, it comments are loaded dynamically, as it is now fashionable.
  35. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 20 August 2016 15: 22 New
    +5
    However, it’s radical (for some it’s just QUALITY!)
    The main thing - it is not clear by what principle “points-goals-seconds” were credited to visitors.
    And so - wait and see.
  36. Alf
    Alf 20 August 2016 15: 24 New
    +27
    It seems that the site administration has changed the design from the principle-We need to do something, we do not know what, so at least the design will change.
    After a couple of days, conduct a survey of how much for the old design and how much for the new. Just be honest.
    It would be better to do the writing literacy. Very often it is not possible to read.
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 20 August 2016 15: 49 New
      +2
      damn .... I wanted to put you a minus, but here the "zrada" is laughing
      The chip of change is not only in the points system. You can see right away who is even a little bit close to understanding the writing of sites that the portal has become much nicer to work in terms of response. Apparently, the code was substantially redone!
      I like it so far!
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 20 August 2016 17: 09 New
        +3
        "Damn, I wanted to put a minus for you, but here the" zrada "is such a" ...

        Here I am, old, and did not understand now - WHO YOU said THIS ???
        It's me - not to your address - but to the address of new content ...
      2. dali
        dali 20 August 2016 19: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: silver_roman
        You can see right away who is even a little bit close to understanding the writing of sites that the portal has become much nicer to work in terms of response.

        I somehow did not notice while the amenities in terms of response, but the troubles on the face, while the brake is so awesome ...
    2. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 00 New
      +1
      Well, if the administration is engaged in literacy of writers, then it would be worth starting with you: it’s impossible to teach the prefix to write a prefix wink
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2016 16: 20 New
        0
        In this case, the word "impossible" is enclosed in quotation marks.
        1. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 20 August 2016 16: 41 New
          0
          Quotation marks in Russian do not isolate anything at all. Should the administration again teach this?
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 August 2016 16: 35 New
      +2
      It would be better to do the writing literacy. Very often it is not possible to read.
      Judging by how you are the circumstance of the mode of action "impossible" wrote - that’s it! Literate, you are ours! laughing
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 August 2016 17: 08 New
        +5
        Literate, you are ours!

        The comma is superfluous.
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 20 August 2016 17: 20 New
          +5
          Well ... Even with the new design of the site, the Boa KAA and Alf have already managed to exchange "courtesies" ...

          All the same, the change is really getting on my nerves, including me ...

          Guys, do something to make reading and reacting comfortable ...

          PS And this means practically - if someone has not forgotten this song - "Return the music" ...
          The devil with them - ranks, but it was still more or less convenient to receive information, and respond to it, and communicate ...
        2. ver_
          ver_ 21 August 2016 09: 42 New
          0
          ..A ABOUT AUTHOR'S SIGNS KNOW ..- I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMAND IN THIS CASE MEANS A PAUSE ..
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    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 20 August 2016 15: 43 New
      0
      A very transparent hint of our adored "composer"? He is a lot of others.
  38. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Res_Ullus
    And for some, life will lose its meaning IMHO

    They will go to binges laughing
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 20 August 2016 15: 47 New
      +1
      Following the directions I went.
      Not honestly, the phone is really inconvenient. Although I may get used to it.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 21 August 2016 12: 36 New
      +3
      They will go to binges

      Alexander, you feel this is your favorite trick: "Stop drinking," "Go into binges," and so on in the same vein. Perhaps you yourself are abusing, or vice versa - "sewn in". AND?
  39. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 20 August 2016 15: 25 New
    +3
    Yes, here they demoted everyone))))) then leave by the last military rank-senior midshipman, if possible)))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 August 2016 15: 29 New
      +4
      And who did not serve that machine-gun laughing
      1. archi.sailor
        archi.sailor 20 August 2016 15: 34 New
        +2
        I agree, I support hi
      2. Monos
        Monos 20 August 2016 16: 17 New
        +5
        And who did not serve that machine-gun


        And do not change anymore!
      3. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 20 August 2016 17: 51 New
        +1
        Alexander, after all, when I registered on the site two years ago, on the first day, I really thought that the real ranks of the military were indicated. And he was looking for the count in his account, where to indicate my rank. But the next day, suspicion crept in due to the abundance of senior and senior officers, which in real life does not exist.
        So according to the "denomination" of titles - this is correct. Not so eyes hurt.
        But now there will be many wishes for the new edition - then, perhaps, make a temporary special mailbox on the main page dedicated to this particular topic? If so, technically possible.
        1. Monos
          Monos 20 August 2016 19: 20 New
          +8
          But now there will be many wishes for the new edition - then, perhaps, make a temporary special mailbox on the main page dedicated to this particular topic? If so, technically possible.


          And I would suggest using both versions. Who likes what. Technically possible.
          1. Alf
            Alf 21 August 2016 20: 58 New
            +1
            And I would suggest using both versions. Who likes what. Technically possible.

            Technically, it’s possible, but, I'm afraid, the vast majority will go to the old version and the administration, as it were, to put it mildly, will be put in a puddle with such innovations.
      4. aba
        aba 20 August 2016 19: 50 New
        0
        And who did not serve that machine-gun

        It is possible easier:
        - rank and file
        - junior officers
        - senior officers
        - senior officers
        Above only the administration and moderators, curators. And that’s it! Enough!
        No carrots in front of the nose.
  40. Ilmir099
    Ilmir099 20 August 2016 15: 26 New
    +7
    Not a little bit more time and everything will be clear. Do not forget to click on the advertisement and is on the advertisement page for at least 30 seconds.
    1. Gomel
      Gomel 20 August 2016 16: 26 New
      0
      it goes without saying
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 August 2016 16: 47 New
      +8
      Do not forget to click on ads
      I apologize for the obscene question, but why?
      1. Donhapa
        Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 29 New
        0
        Probably shaking money ...
      2. your1970
        your1970 20 August 2016 22: 59 New
        +5
        and I just described just this scourge that may fall on the site — the parish is not of idiots, but of advertising agents / prodovanov / political parties — taking advantage of the fact that you won’t kill them immediately will live / prosper / move a complete heresy
        which confirms the experience Ilmir099
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  42. Kars
    Kars 20 August 2016 15: 27 New
    +49
    The appearance is terrible.
    To me, the past design is simpler and more understandable.
    1. lestad
      lestad 20 August 2016 15: 32 New
      +13
      support
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 20 August 2016 16: 23 New
      +1
      On Android it slows down! Help! I only have a tablet working!
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 21 August 2016 13: 03 New
        +2
        Slows down on Android - to put it mildly. W0pa full. It is impossible to leave a comment, it is not clear where it flies, it is inconvenient to watch comments, it scrolls poorly. Actually, for the sake of comments, the people were sitting here.
    3. Donhapa
      Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 32 New
      0
      I agree!
      But probably not just
  43. AlexTires
    AlexTires 20 August 2016 15: 28 New
    0
    Ufff, as you feel better on your shoulders ... Well, with an initiative ... The design is not familiar, but we'll get used to it ....
  44. potterz
    potterz 20 August 2016 15: 29 New
    +1
    But only my site crashes? (I'm sitting on the phone)
    1. Gomel
      Gomel 20 August 2016 16: 25 New
      +3
      This dynamic loading of comments is a very unfortunate thing for an actively discussed topic.
    2. Brain Yurich
      Brain Yurich 20 August 2016 21: 25 New
      0
      all in my opinion. I'm sitting on a computer, I can’t print a message normally ...
    3. rpek32
      rpek32 21 August 2016 05: 53 New
      0
      on the PC the same crap. even when typing an answer, the delay goes
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 21 August 2016 13: 17 New
        +1
        Innovations, innovations .... we will speak frankly, thoroughly done, not the site. Looking disgusting.
    4. lelikas
      lelikas 21 August 2016 13: 05 New
      +1
      Not just cuddles, but hellishly lays.
  45. Dryuya2
    Dryuya2 20 August 2016 15: 31 New
    +2
    Gomel,
    clicked more - quoted and my koment flew to the very bottom belay
    1. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 16: 10 New
      +1
      When quoting before
      1. dali
        dali 20 August 2016 19: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Old very
        When quoting before

        Only now, to quote, it is necessary to do so many extra gestures in response ... negative
    2. Gomel
      Gomel 20 August 2016 16: 24 New
      +9
      Yeah, the fact is that in the new design the tree (branches) of comments is disgustingly organized before at least in color were different ...
  46. Muvka
    Muvka 20 August 2016 15: 31 New
    +13
    But will the "My Comment" and "New Comments" buttons return to the header? It used to be convenient to read updates or answers to my comments ...
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 21 August 2016 08: 45 New
      +3
      In addition, from My Comments it was convenient to go to previously read and commented articles and reply to opponents.
  47. Alf
    Alf 20 August 2016 15: 31 New
    +26
    Previously, I went into the armament and immediately chose the topic. Now everything is piled up. I'm not interested in the fleet, I'm interested in armor. So now, to read the new articles on BTT, I have to get through all the news.
    Design minus.
  48. Juborg
    Juborg 20 August 2016 15: 32 New
    +39
    To be honest, I didn’t like the new design at all, it’s very inconvenient, the information spreads over the pictures and large headlines, where what to look for intuitively is very difficult and inconvenient as before. It is clear that the administration of the site has the right to do whatever it wants, but to radically disfigure it so much is not comme il faut. Regarding the ratings of the articles, the question is the same debatable, are the articles themselves provocative or outright trolling and what is their opinion only in the comments? I completely agree with the ranks that many people set the goal of getting the ranks at any cost. To summarize, I’ll try to get used to the inconvenience of the current design, I won’t get used to it, I’ll leave, the trouble for the site will not be great.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 20 August 2016 15: 46 New
      +3
      As for the pictures, I agree, my eyes run wide, earlier it was stricter and easier.
    2. Very old
      Very old 20 August 2016 22: 25 New
      +2
      Take your time with the rating. Admins read everything, a lot has to be taken into account.
      But slam the door is not worth it.
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    1. Simpsonian
      Simpsonian 20 August 2016 19: 00 New
      +2
      He also loves bats ...
  50. Voyager
    Voyager 20 August 2016 15: 33 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    It’s not convenient to insert quotes, where are the flags? Cosmopolitan am ?

    Why is quoting inconvenient? Seems to be OK.

    But the flags were removed correctly, too many glitches with them. Tired of being in Moscow writing with the flag of Moldova, then of some other state-va.
    1. atalef
      atalef 20 August 2016 16: 10 New
      +17
      Previously, it was enough to mark the line and click - quote, it showed the source of the quote and place, it was possible to quote from many comments.
      Now the window of your comment is blocked by the comment you are reading and if you want to quote it, you need to do a lot of unnecessary actions - move the window, copy it, press -quote, insert the source of the quote is not visible at the same time.
      When quoting through MISCELLANEOUS - to answer, the comment window automatically flies to the top of the page and the comment you are responding to is not visible.
      To date, I would say the previous system was perfect, it is advisable to return what was in terms of ease of use for writing comments and quoting maybe this is 90% of the site’s convenience.
      1. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 20 August 2016 16: 41 New
        +8
        I agree, completely. Better to modify the old than to invent a new one.
      2. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 20 August 2016 16: 41 New
        +12
        I agree, completely. Better to modify the old than to invent a new one. Climbed the site, no, not that! It used to be more convenient, and the changes that the developers are talking about could be more correctly implemented in the old design.
      3. Donhapa
        Donhapa 20 August 2016 17: 38 New
        +7
        I agree with otalef. Old is easier. Here it is so tricky ...