Updating the site "Military Review"

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We inform our dear readers that the informational and analytical portal “Military Review” (topwar.ru) is switching to a new design, as well as implementing changes according to a number of operating principles. We consider it necessary to bring to the audience the most significant, from our point of view, changes concerning both the work of the site itself and activities on the site of its users.

Immediately it is worth noting that the site is not going to change its approach to the information component. Our focus remains the same: coverage of events related to the activities of the Armed Forces, the military-industrial sphere, geopolitics, acute issues of the economy, education, which are in no small degree capable of making their contribution to the security system of the state and society. We do not change the patriotic orientation, we will continue to carry out activities taking into account Russian interests. At the same time, while continuing to work on financing solely through the placement of advertising content by advertisers, we once again inform readers who have conspiracy theories that the Military Review is not funded by any public or private structures, including foreign ones.



What exactly will change?



Our regular readers had time to get used to the fact that each article and each published comment can be awarded a rating, both positive and negative. Any reader in the early version of the site could put a plus or a minus, based on his vision of the content of the material (commentary) or even its authorship. Often, the administration and moderators of the site even had to deal with the personal dislike of individual users for each other, which poured into "minusovanie" without any of its arguments except for the argument in style, sorry generously, "he himself was a fool." In the new version of "Military Review" we decided to abandon the system of "minuses".

In particular, we are talking about the fact that if one or another user liked the material (comment), then, as before, he can put a “plus”, or rather use the “Like” button.



If the material is not liked, the user can always express his opinion in the comments, arguing his position. It is by arguing, rather than slapping the silent "minus" on duty, or by confining himself to the above-mentioned commenting technique with a transition to personalities. For those who still do not want to move on to the practice of civilized communication and acquaintance with materials and comments, each user has a “black list” at their disposal. The ban system for violating the rules on the Military Review website, including the outright trolls, will also remain in working condition.

The changes will affect the system of assigning titles to the "IN". Considering the fact that a certain category of users is too serious about accumulating points for assigning “titles” and trying with all their might in just a week, or even less, to “rise” to the rank of marshal, we decided to switch to the practice of having more points for assignment of the next reader "title". Understand us correctly - the marshal's staff, some of whom scored points for comments from the “I Am of the Same Opinion” series, rolls off, and from the running set with big stars dazzles in the eyes ... The ranks of the marshal and the generals on “VO” will thin.

If we touch on changes in the design of the site, then our main page becomes more informative and dynamic. The most significant and popular stories among readers directly on the main page will be sorted into categories, be it Opinion, Armament, news or analytical sections. As a separate segment on the main page will be presented photo and video materials, as well as articles historical directionality. There was also a place for the “Readers' Choice” section, which will include the most actively read and commented on materials.

For any additional details you are interested in, please contact the site administration. To do this, it is possible to write a direct letter from the “Contacts” section, or use the “Report” function.

No re-registration for VO users after innovations in the portal is required.

The website update is designed to increase the level of user convenience for exploring the content, improve the dynamics of the site, increase its visual information content. We hope that you will like all the innovations, our dear readers, and it will not take long for you to get used to the new rules of the Military Review.
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    1. +72
      August 20 2016
      And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow
      1. +16
        August 20 2016
        Soon the titles will appear, but others smile
        1. +8
          August 20 2016
          Hi Andrey! Now it has become universal for videos and pictures? I see the media. Where are the pictures?
          1. +32
            August 20 2016
            it’s not yet clear how to embed a video and how to minus you bully
            1. +8
              August 20 2016
              Sanya, pictures and videos are already understandable, so far I have not quite figured out the citation, but this is temporary.
              1. +39
                August 20 2016
                gray link "More ...." next to "Reply" there will be "quote"
                while it is not convenient, in the pursuit of design and minimization, they have hidden it until you move the cursor, IMHO to remove this feature, let the link be initially visible. But on the other hand, it has become more convenient in tablets and smartphones, seriously. Not expected.

                Zy In t interesting design solution (design) licked someone or their domestic? (whom to praise shorter? :))

                UPD1: the view is slowly changing for the worse:
                1. Where are the latest comments in the article?
                2. The flags disappeared, very patriotic
              2. +138
                August 20 2016
                I do not care about shoulder straps, I’m even too lazy to put an avatar ... but with minuses you are in vain, they made sense.
                It is worth the post, let's say 50 pluses and 30 minuses, and by the ratio one can understand that about a third of readers are not in awe of the expressed idea or opinion.
                And in the comments there may be only 1-2 people who argue with you.
                And the fact that someone was minus someone for personal reasons is a drop in the bucket.

                P.S. By the way, on epaulettes ... if you really want to somehow diversify people - maybe, in addition to the ranks, you will give medals? :)

                And by design:
                Personally, I would like more functionality for widescreen monitors (I have half the screen empty)
                A lot of white fill, I hope it fixes (eyes hurt)
                Also, fillers between the text of different messages can be reduced to make the "correspondence" look more compact (for example, the "reply" button takes about 2 lines of text - maybe it should be moved?)
              3. +19
                August 21 2016
                It’s not clear how to view your posts in topics in order to reply to your opponent ... And how to understand whether there are new posts in a topic at all? As well as following the link of your post to a specific thread, it is not clear how to view your comments and answers to them other members of the forum ....
            2. +24
              August 20 2016
              Sanya hello. How to minus? That's how "-" bully
              1. +49
                August 20 2016
                Quote: WUA 518
                Sanya hello. How to minus? That's how "-" bully

                or as
              2. Alf
                +6
                August 20 2016
                That's how.
                "You minus, because this and that."
              3. +3
                August 20 2016
                "+" for "-" lol
              4. +1
                August 20 2016
                And you, Sanya, have an avatar from your namesake, from armored vehicles, which Sparrow, look. It is very clearly shown laughing Hi, Sani drinks
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            3. +59
              August 20 2016
              And you can't "minus". The crooked "designers" were concerned first of all so that they would not be stuck with "minuses" for the "most modern design" in red and white colors.
              1. +40
                August 20 2016
                Yes, the design is still ... "Ranks" generally had to be canceled - shoulder straps go to years of study, labor and often blood. And this is so, I think it is pampering, and the flags must be returned ...
              2. +42
                August 21 2016
                Now the site will be filled with liberals, trolls and dill who are not in danger, because they will not get any minuses .. Then the patriots will leave this site and it will turn into a dull city.
            4. +1
              August 20 2016
              Learn, dear. Gopodin * so-and-so * here's to you * - *, get negative .
              1. +10
                August 20 2016
                ... the sadness of the minusers now ... the meaning of their existence in the VO is lost ... laughing
            5. +45
              August 21 2016
              Neither an article, that is, an author, nor a commentator can be minus now. And this is the main disadvantage. The most funny thing is that the administration of the site put up children's excuses. Well, who can explain to me why on some regional site "Theron" (Perm), you could hover the mouse and clearly see: who exactly put a minus, and who put a plus. But on such a site as VO is it impossible?
              Kindergarten, briefs on the straps. Themselves lowered their IT specialists below the baseboard.
              1. +6
                August 22 2016
                Yes, yes, I have expressed a similar idea for a long time here, so that you can see exactly who is minus ... Yes, and the epaulets seem to be about nothing, but it's nice to get a new asterisk, I, for example, in "Past Life" right up to the captain))) And now again ml.lei (((
          2. +8
            August 20 2016
            Insert pictures add soon
            1. +32
              August 20 2016
              And what about the rating of comments in your profile? Was it seen before? Now virgin voids and it is not visible how to respond to each of your comments?
            2. +13
              August 20 2016
              Thank God! Canceled cons. I myself have never set cons and I think that this is the lot of weak cheap things. Sorry for the harshness, but this is how I perceive minusculers and equate them with warriors throwing pillows. hi
              1. +102
                August 20 2016
                the fact that you did not use the "minuses" is not a reason for pride. "precious" you are ours. just tell me how to compactly express an opinion on an article or comment? to produce a cloud of empty phrases of the same type, hammering in mass, when there is nothing to add? the plus / minus system was more objective.
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              3. +11
                August 22 2016
                And if cheap stuff deserves nothing but a minus?

                Now liberals expanse, write crap. It is useless to argue with a liberalist.
                I think the minuses were removed in connection with the elections, so that the authorities would not
                minus.
            3. +8
              August 20 2016
              Uh-huh. And at the same time add (maybe) an insert of "cons". And in less than a year, different fields (such as title, business card, the text itself, editing control) will have different background colors. So, you see, by 2020 the old design will be restored. am
              It was impossible to practice "on rags" in advance, so that at least the EXPRESS jambs (like the message "Loading ..." from above, which was FOREVER registered), removed? am
            4. +8
              August 20 2016
              Quote: fantast
              "We will add the insertion of pictures in the near future"
              ... it would not hurt to update the Rules of VO, on the screen ... and the question on Warnings, have they been reset? and will there be an indication of warnings received by the user? ... hi
            5. +12
              August 21 2016
              fantast, I apologize, but then this is for you: Neither an article, that is, an author, nor a commentator can be minus. And this is the main disadvantage. The most funny thing is that the administration of the site put up children's excuses. Well, who can explain to me why on some regional site "Theron" (Perm), you could move the mouse and clearly see: who exactly put a minus, and who a plus. But on such a site as VO is it impossible?
              Kindergarten, briefs on the straps. Themselves lowered their IT specialists below the baseboard.
              1. +10
                August 22 2016
                Another change to the "VO" site follows the precepts of VS Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always!" "As always" refers to the previous "lame reincarnation" of the Military Review. Let's start in order: Is the Administration of the "VO" Site so classified that even its own search engine cannot find the owner !? It seems that the site is being deliberately destroyed. But in whose favor it is not at all clear. Discussion of sensitive issues TURNED in the last "Update". Now on the "main" there is a mechanical broadcast of the "Political" and "Economic" Review, which occupies more than 50% of the format, which does not adorn the site. Moreover, when, after the expiration of time, the same articles appear in the editorial of "VO". Is it difficult to put these TOPICS for discussion right away? For some reason, there is no desire to discuss the day before yesterday's news. Avoiding discussions of fresh topics, and reducing the quality of their presentation, greatly reduces the attractiveness of the resource. Discussing simple current news is about nothing. What you did good, you can see on "Made by us"! Big request: RETURN THE OLD ARCHITECTURE of the site and do not improve the GOOD! It seems that technical problems will be solved immediately after the transition to the ORIGINAL VERSION! Funds spent on "REINCARNATION" - can be written off!
        2. +8
          August 20 2016
          You can give the next rank in a year not earlier if you have the accumulated advantages corresponding to the next rank.
          1. +18
            August 20 2016
            As one friend of mine says, "not everyone will survive." Yes
            1. +18
              August 20 2016
              Not everyone will be able to survive, or rather, not only everyone will be able, few will be able to do it bully
              1. +1
                August 21 2016
                Blow into the Klitschkov dudu. He probably hiccups.
          2. +23
            August 20 2016
            Absolutely no need for these conventions with ranks. What is the point if the lieutenant can be smarter than the colonel. The main thing on the forum is participation in disputes, discussions, the struggle for one’s own point of view. To introduce a system of * pluses and minuses * in order to know the full picture of the attitude to one’s own opinion by others forum users. hi
        3. 0
          August 20 2016
          by the way the gruppenfuhrer Mueller sounds normal, after jokes for 17 moments.
        4. +2
          August 20 2016
          On page 7, I left a big comment with my comments on the innovations. I wish comrade administrators did not miss it.
        5. +26
          August 21 2016
          Another question regarding comments
          Where is the key - FIX?
          It was a convenient function, sometimes you will miss an error (in my case, the score goes to tens) laughing , you want to add something - all this was possible.
          Why removed?
          Please return
          1. +5
            August 21 2016
            Quote: atalef
            Where is the key - FIX?

            ... Alexander Batkovich, in the same place where she was ... under Others ...
        6. +23
          August 21 2016
          The ranks are different, we are not opposed, but the mechanisms have faded even further.
          There were points, maybe they removed careerism correctly, but where transparency and objectivity are, they were completely merged. "Who are the judges?" or where are the judges? And "where is the highest court, confidants of debauchery?" For some reason, they rushed to defend the honor of the authors (you can't give it a minus, even though it's a reprint from Western media, albeit edited).
          We do not change our patriotic orientation, we will continue to carry out activities taking into account Russian interests. [B] [/ b]
          For a year of communication on the site, I had doubts about the site's implementation of the stated paradigm. And if earlier I had the opportunity to give my assessment of the submitted material (-) and this was visible to everyone, now my silence is (0), so it is nothing in Africa.
          I suggest to separate flies from cutlets. News laced with the media does not evaluate. But if there is an author’s vision of the issue and an assessment of the situation, then an assessment must be made and an honest author must uphold his point of view and can even develop it.
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      2. +36
        August 20 2016
        It has long been proposed to demote everyone. As if from the pursuit of the mind increased, or due to their lack of mind, it became sharply less.
        1. +17
          August 20 2016
          Well, it's like a denomination - over time the zeros have returned. So here, a week is different and again the majority of the former will flaunt in new marshal's uniform laughing
          So the problem of pursuit and mind will always be, there is no escape from this.
          1. +4
            August 20 2016
            The rules of growth have changed, so it's not a fact =)
          2. +2
            August 20 2016
            it is unlikely, now it’s not easy to reach the marshal soldier
            1. +13
              August 20 2016
              In my opinion, the title of Marshal of authority in society does not add, unless it only amuses pride and ambition.
            2. +56
              August 21 2016
              Quote: fantast
              it is unlikely, now it’s not easy to reach the marshal soldier

              certainly hard wink
              I have a rating of zero and does not move at all, why?
              Further, once again I propose to return the minus, this is correct, but with the only exception, the minus can be set only when responding to the negative comment (as on the article)
              Otherwise, the whole discussion will turn into a continuous collection of pluses and fawning couch warriors in pursuit of marshal's epaulets.
              Woke up in the morning, thought some things would fix
              1. Background horribly hurts his eyes
              2 Huge windows, makes it difficult to cover the info and have to twist the mouse all the time
              3.My comments and new comments have sunk into oblivion
              4 Quoting Extremely Uncomfortable
              5.Clicking on comments does not work - throws to the top of the article
              6 Flags - well, we’ll survive another week — but this must also be returned.
              7 Rating not working
              8 Pluses are not visible in my comments (unfortunately now there are no minuses)

              Previously, all this worked and this forum was very convenient.
              Best the enemy of the good!
              1. +12
                August 21 2016
                I agree with the entire list of Atalef. UX really dipped and got worse than it was.
              2. +2
                August 22 2016
                And I, after updating the site, in general, the browser hangs on the home computer.
          3. +16
            August 20 2016
            "Denomination" is a must. We do not come here for "cookies; for the sake of communication. To learn new things, to speak out on the vital, to find a friend and colleague, like-minded person."
            Three years since VO. This is the second "reorganization" and I like it more.

            And where are the arrows pointing to the recipient?
            1. +3
              August 20 2016
              And the sense of the arrows? You click on it and there is a whole fan. It is better to automatically set the nickname and time. Then it’s clear to whom you answer. hi Emoticons are not enough.
              1. +22
                August 20 2016
                Quote: 34 region
                And the sense of the arrows? You click on it and there is a whole fan. It is better to automatically set the nickname and time

                - that's honest - I have never seen such a thing
                - "arrows" were very convenient, IMHO

                By design:
                - the "copy" button hijacks the answer to the end of the tape (it was like that before, okay. I never used it)
                - the "answer" button opens a new window "VDI type?" Fashionable, but extremely inconvenient to copy the message to which you reply
                - so far I have found only such a "feature:": press the quotes in a new window, a "wrapper" for the quote appears. Then you copy from the main window what you wanted to quote from the main window, and you copy and paste the author of the quotation with the RUKTSYA.

                Question: is this necessary, or am I not catching up with something?

                There used to be a "quote" button in the answer box (SDI) and it worked great.

                What am I giving wrong?



                PS; GIF inserted as a picture is not animated. It used to work ...
              2. 0
                August 21 2016
                exactly, for the cons they are sooooo small ....
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          5. +1
            August 21 2016
            That's right, so if you want to repeat your feat, it's enough to go through a new registration and howl is not an easy way to the marshal open!
            And you don't have to wait at all when you will be "shot together with everyone" (reset to zero) ......
        2. +15
          August 20 2016
          Is it demoted? I, for example, Colonel request
          I did not write articles and laid out. It is possible and in the rank and file. Ranks - for work! This sentence is from me.
          1. +18
            August 20 2016
            Absolutely correct remark !!! Articles and posts containing useful info should be evaluated differently ... Current how to distinguish a useful post from a flood ????
            1. +32
              August 20 2016
              Gentlemen, the opinion of the administration is perfectly clear. Cons should be used wisely, and cheers-patriotism too. Moreover, it is foolish to reduce personal hostility. IMHO:
              1. cons were good for only one thing - fighting trolls. Also, basically, these trolls were wearing foreign flags. That is, as it was before: a certain one flies into the site, imposes on our history "we know it", or what other blizzard he will drive - we minus him, drove him into shoulder straps with skulls, it is easier for the moderator to block him. How to deal with such stray now? They can muddy the whole discussion with their flood.
              2. removed the "my comments" button. Again, if there is a discussion going on, it becomes harder to find yourself. Bring it back (preferably)! I'll write this comment now, then I can't even find it to read the answers, if anyone is worthy to answer! lol
              It is also a pity that the photos from previous discussions were reset. There are a lot of links to Topwar even on Wikipedia - you will go to an article a few years ago, and everything is beautiful, although users with those nicknames are no longer on the site.
              While the interface is unusual. I’ll try to get used to it. Yours faithfully, hi
              1. +12
                August 20 2016
                Quote: Mikado
                2. removed the "my comments" button. Again, if there is a discussion going on, it becomes harder to find yourself. Bring it back (preferably)! I'll write this comment now, then I can't even find it to read the answers, if anyone is worthy to answer!
                You got ahead of me, you wanted to write the same thing.
        3. +9
          August 20 2016
          .. I didn’t like it when for a child’s commentary it took off for a hundred pluses as an indication in which direction to “row”, as well as minus signs for unknown reasons (I suppose by nationalities) for not recognizing their exclusivity ...
      3. +8
        August 20 2016
        Thank! smiled.
        There really were a lot of stars. fellow
        1. +13
          August 20 2016
          Here MILANA says: Thank you! smiled.
          But it is not clear to whom she answered. So the arrow is needed
          1. ICT
            +9
            August 20 2016
            Quote: Very old
            But it is not clear to whom she answered. So the arrow is needed

            it’s strange while everything is not comfortable from a habit,


            but I would leave the minus for comments, without the possibility of the influence of these minuses on the rating,

            it’s just that sometimes you like the comment, and sometimes you don’t want to comment on laziness or someone already duplicated the answer that you wanted to say

            well, that is, "-" for a comment is kind of a plus, you just see how many people have touched your comment hi
            1. ICT
              +7
              August 20 2016
              ps I don’t move the arrow to go up the page (if you forgot the thing you need)
              1. ICT
                +1
                August 20 2016
                1. news and opinions in one column to reduce
                2. section arsenal until I found where even buried
          2. +4
            August 20 2016
            Arrows make
            1. +6
              August 20 2016
              Andrei, I would ask you to pay attention to the icon (which used to be located on top), which showed comments of their own. It was easy to get answers from colleagues. Now her something is not noticeable ...
            2. +6
              August 21 2016
              1. The login form finally began to remember the username. It's good.
              2. The online / offline icon was only solved empirically. Some kind of cockroach mustache down. smile
              3. The quote die is prohibitively large, as is the red square with quotation marks. IMHO, a waste of space.
              4. In most forums, the quote is highlighted in a different background color. It is more ergonomic and easier to read.
              5. The name of the cited user is typed in the same size and the same headset as the name of the commentator himself. But due to the black color (and the commentator is red), it visually seems larger in size, which is hardly correct.
              6. The "Reply" and "Quote" items still looked more intuitive (and more familiar) than the newfangled swirling arrow.
              7. The selection of text in the input form is too pale, poorly visible.

              This is just what immediately caught my eye. I hope users' comments and suggestions will help to "finish" the new design to perfection of "usability". wink
            3. +12
              August 21 2016
              Quote: fantast
              Arrows make


              Please return the old version. winked
              -------------------------------
              Well, it is clear that this "reform" will greatly worsen the work of the site. And there will be much less visitors.
              So far ... many people come several times to discuss (scold) a new site.
              And the day through trm .. see. Attendance will decrease. sad
              1. +5
                August 22 2016
                I’ve been in for the third day to leave immediately. The soul does not lie to the updated site. Well, the author’s development, so no, they used a cheap template, they became like many, their face disappeared.
      4. +3
        August 20 2016
        Hmm ... The song "Our Hearts Demand Change" by Viktor Tsoi immediately comes to mind ... Well, let's see for the better or in the opposite direction ... So go ahead demoted !!!
      5. +25
        August 20 2016
        It’s not convenient to insert quotes, where are the flags? Cosmopolitan am ?
        1. +7
          August 20 2016
          where are the flags? Cosmopolitan!
          Hi Sasha!
          Did he become infected with the "national pride of the Great Russians" !? bully
          1. +26
            August 20 2016
            Hi Sasha. While of course it is not convenient.
            The flags will certainly be returned, but I would leave a minus, but only if I leave a comment regarding comments.
            If there is an opportunity plus, it should be possible to put a minus comment, of course, to avoid empty mining, put a minus only with a comment.
            1. +7
              August 20 2016
              ABOUT! Oh my god, I see the "flying mish" again! laughing And do not care that the "Jewish bat" is a representative of the Atalife organization! bully hi Did you miss the bat? Well, not what, judging by the new rules of the site, we have long conversations.
              1. +8
                August 20 2016
                ABOUT! Oh my god, I see the "flying mish" again!

                God is written with a capital letter, and a mouse with a soft sign wink
                And do not care that the "Jewish bat" is a representative of the Atalife organization!

                What kind of life ???
                What happiness bully hi Did you miss the bat?

                strange you, why did you decide that happiness and that you miss?
                Well, not what, judging by the new rules of the site, we have long conversations.

                You probably decided to intimidate me?
            2. +1
              August 20 2016
              The comment in this case will be very informative: "minus you" for example
        2. +2
          August 20 2016
          About cosmopolitans + laughing
        3. +1
          August 20 2016
          And by the way, how do you insert them at all ?! what
      6. +3
        August 20 2016
        With what we congratulate you
      7. +22
        August 20 2016
        They demoted, well, okay, only the functionality suffered and this is bad - there are no "my comments" and "unread" buttons, it became inconvenient to navigate.

        By the way, if everyone was demoted, what happened to the black-militants? I'm worried about them laughing
        1. cap
          +20
          August 20 2016
          I agree. It is convenient to view "My comments" without going back to the article, "unread" is the same. Better to finalize and return.
          And a very bright screen, as mentioned above. It hits the eyes.
          But in general, everything is correct. Rudeness with minuses it was time to finish.
          Good luck to us all.
          PS
          We have already written about flags. I am for their return. He will emphasize that "... we are few, but we are in vests ...", and it’s just interesting how THERE thinks about what is happening in Russia.
          1. +18
            August 20 2016
            By cons I do not agree with you. And then how to respond to outright rudeness, etc.? Comment? I'm afraid there will be too many of the same. By rank with all limbs, FOR.
            And return the button my comments were convenient.
          2. +9
            August 20 2016
            The fact that their own comments are not saved is completely incomprehensible. And the ability to correct them after publication was very helpful.
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        3. +1
          August 20 2016
          Quote: Gray Brother
          By the way, if everyone was demoted, what happened to the black-militants? I'm worried about them laughing

          Optimized, nafig! soldier
      8. +8
        August 20 2016
        I must admit that lately I have been sick of the abundance of marshals, whose quality of judgment did not inspire any respect. In addition, the constant arrival of notices of discussions by mail, where the whole discussion was reduced to a useless repetition of the same arguments, and resembled "communication" of monkeys throwing banana peels at each other ... How many times called for the use of intelligible argumentation ... Maybe something will change for the better?
      9. +11
        August 20 2016
        I would also suggest the administration of "VO" to assign the rank of marshal to candidates not only for their rating, but also for a certain number of articles written and posted on the site. I consider the assignment of the rank of marshal just for the number of "pluses" in the personal rating to be incorrect.
      10. +4
        August 20 2016
        And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted


        In vain, I would put up the sale of balls on a commercial basis. You can sell your ranks to the ordinary, bets for each, and the site receives 20%. laughing The same with the minuses, who wants to get rid of their minuses, pays the site 10 euros per minus.)))
        1. Alf
          +5
          August 20 2016
          and the site receives 20%.

          And the tax is right there ...
        2. 0
          August 22 2016
          Sorry that my counter has overflowed on your comment, but reading the previous comments, I'm surprised how many people pay too much attention to the "rank" of the interlocutors. Glory about subordination and conversion according to the charter ..., no one hints! fellow
      11. +3
        August 20 2016
        It was so nice in the marshals. You lie there wondering what to write like that ... Beauty ... And now? Colonel ... You won't lie down ... You have to run ... And what about your age? One thing inspires. Leonid Ilyich's words about the film "They Fought for the Motherland." ...
        The then Defense Minister Grechko Andrei Andreevich did not like the fact that not a single general was shown in the film .... But Brezhnev said about this: "The colonels won the war!" and the film was released. So comrades "colonels" dare, write, more interesting, sharper. Good luck to you all dear commentators and "promotions"
      12. +9
        August 20 2016
        And you can ask the moderators to return me the "petty officers" shoulder straps, in my opinion the most beautiful?
        1. +4
          August 20 2016
          This, my dear, is militia shoulder straps ... And in militia there are special ranks. And that's not quite right. If you in the Army have earned this title of "petty officer" and you have it "in reserve", then "it is certainly tady" ....
          And I remember when from the "petty officer T" they switched to the longitudinal stripe ..... And under the last emperor, the longitudinal braid on the pursuit meant the title of "ensign". Very beautiful ... I would, honestly, return it.
          I represent the shoulder strap of the ensign of the Odessa naval battalion ...
          1. +14
            August 20 2016
            This, my dear, is militia shoulder straps ... And in militia there are special ranks. And that's not quite right. If you in the Army have earned this title of "petty officer" and you have it "in reserve", then "it is certainly tady" ....

            Colleague, this is first of all a title, and then "special" and everything else. I would look at you at the moment when you told the policeman (policeman) that he wears "not quite right" on his shoulders ... I will surely say with confidence that you would be convinced in the shortest possible time that everyone has the same blood and share on the correct and incorrect shoulder straps simply would not be allowed ..
            It wasn’t the army men who died at special operations, and the army men didn’t carry out sweeps in the first and second companies, they blocked it. Think what you write ...
            I have the honor (retired police lieutenant colonel) ...
            1. +3
              August 21 2016
              I do not agree with you about the death of non-“army men”. I have a long reverse experience - when the VOVD and the ROVD sit on the "edges", and we rummage around the village. What about this? On our site there is only a division according to the principle "who ate the most salt" and is not enough. There are already enough "categorical" writers here.
              Although everyone has their own truth, and all "the enemy was advancing on me ....".
              1. +9
                August 21 2016
                I do not agree with you about the death of non-“army men”. I have a long reverse experience - when the VOVD and the ROVD sit on the "edges", and we rummage around the village. What about this?

                I also disagree with you. From my own practice, I have a bunch of reverse examples, when the VOVD (about the local police department - a separate song) was left without support in the villages, in the greenery, and sometimes they just beat POMs (it was with me personally, they forbade making noise and wrote off "friendly fire" the shaitans who suddenly descended from the mountains). But I think that we are not discussing here with you in order to find out whose pencil is thicker.
                On our site there is only a division according to the principle "who ate the most salt" and is not enough. There are already enough "categorical" writers here.
                Although everyone has their own truth, and all "the enemy was advancing on me ....".

                I subscribe to your words hi
            2. +1
              August 21 2016
              You, my colleague, did not quite understand ... I meant something completely different. You very correctly noted that pride in one's uniform in any department should be at the highest level .. But the laws of military registration are tough. And if you are on a military ID "sergeant" a squad commander with a certain VUS, then whether at least a general by special rank, then on mobilization all one "sergeant" !!!!.
              It is clear that an officer with a special rank in the trench with an infantryman will not lie down, and his highly professional skills in the main specialty will be used .....
              1. +8
                August 21 2016
                You, my colleague, do not quite understand ...

                Accepted, I, too, got excited and took everything literally.
                ... And if you are a commander of a squad with a certain VUS on a military ID, then whether at least a general by special rank, then by mobilization everything is one "sergeant" !!!!.

                My VUS is 106. And I am the squad leader laughing Army rank - foreman. I am not shy about this, moreover, I am proud.
                ... It is clear that an officer with a special rank in the trench with an infantryman will not lie down, and his highly professional skills in the main specialty will be used ....

                Then you got excited. If necessary, my subordinates with the infantry both blocked, cleaned, and shared food (as a rule, army men had heavier food) ...
          2. +5
            August 20 2016
            And I served in the army and in the police (pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) ... But the special rank, or military, does not change the beauty of the epaulet itself, be it army or police ...
      13. +28
        August 20 2016
        I AM WITH THIS UNEXPECTED WINE, ALREADY SORRY NOT FOR PARTICIPATE IN SLANG. From an intuitive site turned everything into a garbage can.
        1. 0
          October 29 2018
          100%. Sections disappeared, archive by topic. Fucked up everything. I used to read every day. Now it's even disgusting to go. One word is "improved". For such a "renewal" hands must be cut off!
      14. +3
        August 20 2016
        and ... I've been going to this for so long ... laughing
      15. avt
        +9
        August 20 2016
        Yes, this is not a question, for me, if they have already taken revenge with a broom in a new way, then zero completely, so they say and so -revolution and everyone is equal before it. And then the criterion of demotion is not clear. ,, Not 37 years old ",, You have no right! The elder ordered!" bully Again, I did not understand - the archive of old comments has been reset? Or, too, somehow selectively? Something I went in today and didn’t find the old ones. request Well, the last, it’s for my personal taste, a white field .... No. It looked pleasant on the contrast, but again, I personally like it that way.
      16. +3
        August 20 2016
        This is generally normal. For me, only moerators should have "marshal shoulder straps". These are not only rights, but also responsibility for the atmosphere of the entire site.
      17. The comment was deleted.
      18. +15
        August 20 2016
        It's not about the ranks, although for some it became a game and the meaning of visiting the forum. The fact is that the truth of the saying has been confirmed: "the best is the enemy of the good." It got worse. The appearance (design) is very bad. This is due to the fact that the source of funding is advertising, and it should have been allocated a more prominent place by reducing the field of text messages and comments.
        The desire to comment on something arises if you can see the response. Talking to the abyss - meaning? Now you can no longer find your last koment and will not recognize your counterpart.
        And of course - the innovations in the field for the input comment is something. When you try to scale the page (in order to better see it and avoid stripping), the comment field is shifted out of sight. (on the laptop I have no time for the forum, I describe how I see the site on the tablet). Even the "buttons": "Cancel-Submit" are not visible behind the on-screen keyboard, there is no way to move the field.
        And shoulder straps - well, they attracted some conceited young men, but it was not worth it to ruin everything because of this.
      19. +14
        August 21 2016
        It is not clear why this was done, everything used to be simple and clear.
        I visit a lot of discussion sites, one gets the impression that power everywhere goes to liberals and Bender-Khokhlov. One fact of demotion says a lot, the lack of a flag. For myself, I decided if you do not return everything back, you have to say goodbye to the site. Moderators can explain?
        1. +1
          August 22 2016
          I completely agree ... Complete disappointment with new affairs at VO (except for titles and minuses without comment). It became boring and uninteresting. Now I’ll rarely drop in, and maybe I’m dying.
          1. +1
            August 22 2016
            I have already! The only pity is that "business" has won over reason. If you, "Evil Partisan", "Quail", "Ruslan67", and other adepts, register somewhere, beacon ... Yura has my "e-mail" ... He has everything, even diseases, it infuriates ... Thank you friends! See you !!!
      20. +1
        August 21 2016
        Have a cheerful day teska, serious people "vitrual" shoulder straps to one place - and "shkolota" ... well, let them go to other sites to assert themselves.
      21. +2
        August 21 2016
        GKChP-2016 with the same result. Then they will make excuses, like those from August 1991.
      22. +8
        August 21 2016
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow


        Firstly, you were demoted only for one rank, others on 5-6.
        ---------------------------
        But this is not the main thing. The main thing is that the site has become very inconvenient to use. And bulky too.
        I believe that the old site should be returned.
        And the ranks could be simply devalued. And introduce another criterion. And not the number of comments.
        --------------------
        By the way. Alexander. The fact that you still have the title as the Minister of Defense means that the ranks have not been moved enough.
      23. +4
        August 21 2016
        And I just got a lieutenant (((((..and demoted. I was dancing ...))))
        1. 0
          August 22 2016
          I was the oldest, however :)))
      24. 0
        August 21 2016
        All marshals "shoot" ... The coup, however wink
      25. +1
        August 22 2016
        Only he began to decently live on a marshal's pension, broads - and demoted to major general. Well, at least the stripes left ... bully
      26. +4
        August 22 2016
        It seems that our lady came to work at VO.
        The VO site has lost its face as an education with the exam.
      27. 0
        August 22 2016
        the main thing is not in rank, but in understanding ..... good
      28. 0
        August 23 2016
        Exactly ... And, especially close ranks kept .... lol
        But this is so, in Kumowski .... winked
      29. 0
        November 9, 2016
        Why not one?
    2. +9
      August 20 2016
      Unusual, but it became better.
      1. Alf
        +58
        August 20 2016
        What is better?
        Yes, there were problems with weekly marshals, but now trolls with frank delirium are a complete expanse. No one can minus.
        1. +10
          August 20 2016
          And what a long ban to send a troll? And the troll frankly does not give a damn about the minuses, he came running, crap and dumped.
          1. Alf
            +19
            August 20 2016
            Indiscreet question-Why did some epaulettes feel better? And how did the administration decide who should lose it?
            Another question: I used to go in, immediately unfold my comments, and who reacted to them. Often, after engaging in controversy with the respondents. And now how to view your comments?
            1. +3
              August 20 2016
              And you read the article
              1. Alf
                +18
                August 20 2016
                I immediately went to my comments, without going through the entire article. And now we need to shovel everything.
            2. +24
              August 20 2016
              That's it, and when scrolling through an article, a bar line appeared at the top with the number of recent comments and direct links to comments in the article ... disappeared
              Bad.

              Your comments, new comments where to go?
              Bad.
            3. +5
              August 20 2016
              Alf, here A. Romanov and I were both marshals.
              Today he is Army General, and I am Colonel.
              But his rating was something like approx. XNUMX million points.
              And I have a little more than 180 thousand.

              Here is the answer to your question (the answer, as I understand it) hi
              1. +5
                August 20 2016
                Old, I looked at your page. You now have a rating of 0. There should be shoulder straps of an ordinary.

                Captain Gomel has a rating of 2158.
                I became an 127 Colonel.

                Something is wrong here.
          2. +35
            August 20 2016
            so what with the fact that the ban will go? after all, his comment will remain, with pluses, and will influence the opinions of others, regardless of the fact that he has uttered nonsense without facts and arguments. Take, for example, an article about Belarus and what kind of battles flare up because, firstly, they are not adequate, and, secondly, they simply do not like the personality of the AHL, and therefore write bad things about all Belarus and all Belarusians.

            It will now become impossible to resist attempts to make the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus fall apart, it will be enough for the troll to get plus 10 likes and that's all ... three and a half Belarusians on the site will not be able to oppose anything to a lie, let them write 10 refuting comments with facts each, the effect described in the article above will work "I have the same opinion" without thinking they will like further ....

            sad, I never thought that VO would turn into KONT so quickly ..., articles about the soldiers of Tartaria and other Russian Vedas will soon start to appear .....
            1. +21
              August 20 2016
              Here I fully support, without minuses (or dislike) it is impossible to determine the opinion of members of the forum and to the main article and some "commentators". The style of the site, yes, be in love, the title is only for. but I would leave the minus
              1. +14
                August 20 2016
                I fully support you! Although I don’t put the cons myself, it was somehow more fun and interesting with them: many, having seen a user have a lot of minuses, did not miss the opportunity to add their minus without even reading his comment. This is not fair, but it is also not fair to take away the opportunity to put a minus to a boor and a provocateur.
            2. +32
              August 20 2016
              I would like to like - I would sit on VKontakte. Spoiled a good site.
          3. +18
            August 20 2016
            It was possible to recognize the inveterate troll by gray shoulder straps because of the minuses, but now they are all the same.
            1. +1
              August 20 2016
              We will understand the new version and find a way. And yesterday the troll was not always calculated according to epaulettes. We also calculated according to the number of comments during the time — eight comments in 3 minutes and registration today. So go down slowly, slowly ...
          4. +16
            August 20 2016
            That's it. Preparing for the influx, here such, came, shit and dumped.
            Now any inadequate who would simply be minded would troll to the fullest, anything.
            1. 0
              August 20 2016
              Does your nickname apply only to your comments or to everyone? On decent sites admins politely ask to change a similar obscenity. hi
          5. +4
            August 20 2016
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what a long ban to send a troll? Yes, and the troll frankly does not give a damn about the minuses, he came running, crap and dumped

            Alexander, and "ban" is where? In an emergency, or what? Duc is not a ban at all ... laughing
            1. +1
              August 20 2016
              In "ban" - it means to take out "fleas" laughing
          6. +2
            August 22 2016
            Romanov was a freaking marshal, and he remained so.
        2. +33
          August 20 2016
          I support. Cons must be returned, at least for the evaluation of articles
          1. Alf
            +10
            August 20 2016
            By cons to articles. Most of the articles were uploaded by the site administration. Further, I think, it is not necessary to say, sapient sat ...
          2. +6
            August 20 2016
            Damn ... The problem with quotes .... I'm talking about the minus ... Of course they are needed, only the opportunity to minus should appear in case of a response to the comment, so that it would be clear who put it and why. But is it technically possible?
            Type:
            GHOST29RUS Today, 15:14
            I support. Cons must be returned, at least for the evaluation of articles

            Liked (Did not like)
        3. +7
          August 20 2016
          Now, Urya-patriots, who flocked in a flock to everyone who has their own opinion, now do not clear up! laughing
          1. +9
            August 20 2016
            At having an opinion pounced on ... oh breach. I remember you often have your own opinion, but even after the denomination they remained general ... laughing
          2. +20
            August 20 2016
            Now, Urya-patriots, who flocked in a flock to everyone who has their own opinion, now do not clear up!


        4. 0
          August 20 2016
          Yes, half the trolls-minuses will leave the site, then no, they are not interested.
          1. Alf
            +45
            August 20 2016
            Yes, half the trolls-minuses will leave the site, then no, they are not interested.

            Half the sane ones will leave the site, and the trolls will just remain and will be glad that their feverish delirium will be taken for the truth.
            1. +11
              August 20 2016
              I agree 100% - bad without minuses.
            2. +12
              August 20 2016
              absolutely right. Carry any heresy and no one will stop you. And there are those who like to put. And as for the cheers of the patriots, lately we know them by name, even if they are shifted, and not always they + received. All the same, there are more adequate ones in VO ..
            3. +7
              August 21 2016
              yeah ... I have to support - the site has lost more than it gained ... it is a pity that the opinion of the sane is least taken into account ... not everyone has time to spend hours looking at the heap of comments - but now it's all in a heap. As they say - do not interfere with the debugged machine to work, or it was necessary to make changes in stages hi
        5. +2
          August 21 2016
          You write correctly, as with the elections - they removed the article against.
      2. +3
        August 20 2016
        The phone is not convenient
        1. +6
          August 20 2016
          Yes, from under the "android" it generally works practically in any way ... And, you can't help it.
          1. +4
            August 20 2016
            More mobile version on the way. Update soon.
            1. +25
              August 20 2016
              Vadim, if I understood correctly, there will be no gray epaulettes now. And forum users will not be able to explain to the presumptuous boor that he is wrong. Those. The administration reserves this right - let it be. But how to draw your attention to such a troll?
              I always liked this site for its democracy, when the forum users themselves could send a boor or a provocateur to hell. Now it will not be?
              1. +18
                August 20 2016
                In vain they refused cons. By themselves, they are a light bulb. But they made it possible to determine the attitude, both political and emotional (in a sense, the same way, and in vain wail the cheers - the patriots) about the audience present. And draw conclusions about her. In my opinion, the site has lost its face, and maybe sought to this. Even shoulder straps (albeit fake ones) are meaningless. Everywhere there is an opportunity to express your negative opinion on a specific comment. In many cases, the frank troll does not want to answer. Further in my opinion there will be an increase in the number of liberals, I think the changes are for them.
            2. 0
              August 20 2016
              It’s clear that this is not the full version yet, but it works much faster, I’m talking like a fan of thousands of open windows;) it’s a pity I just don’t see the old video inserts
              1. 0
                August 21 2016
                I won’t say, I’m a little slower, there are hitches.
    3. +1
      August 20 2016
      A new color is striking in the eyes. But I like the control panel
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        what color request - I have white pages
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          So conceived. Contrast
          1. +2
            August 21 2016
            In order not to linger on the site - contrast to the eyes is more harmful.
        2. +3
          August 20 2016
          Indeed, is it possible to change the background color? After all, everyone has their own taste. what
          1. +1
            August 20 2016
            I go into courage and there the background is green, and my eyes are not so tired
            1. +4
              August 20 2016
              Green is good for the eyes (c)
          2. 0
            August 20 2016
            ..I like to use the library of Flibusta because of the color of the pages ...
    4. 0
      August 20 2016
      Well, let’s be new.
    5. +15
      August 20 2016
      the old design impressed me more recourse well, it happened, and we’ll get used to the new one. I propose to abolish the ranks (at least in relation to those who do not want to be a marshal) and I suggest starting with me feel
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        So you are already a colonel wink
        1. +6
          August 20 2016
          So you are already a colonel
          But can you even become a civilian, without shoulder straps? feel
      2. +3
        August 20 2016
        well, it happened, and we’ll get used to the new one. I propose to abolish the ranks (at least in relation to those who do not want to be a marshal) and I suggest starting with me

        You have already been demoted.
        Somehow the quotes are not textured, it is not clear from whom.
        Not familiar.
        1. +3
          August 20 2016
          We will still work with quotes
          1. +2
            August 20 2016
            By the way, why does the Opera slow down so much, the old design did not slow down !!!
            1. +7
              August 20 2016
              Slows down not only in the Opera, Vivaldi also mutes. It is clear that the new face of the site was made by the co -akers. Background, hurts the eye, while he waited for the answer window to open, managed to sleep lol My opinion is that the new design is crooked and bad.
      3. +2
        August 20 2016
        That soldier is bad ...
      4. +38
        August 20 2016
        Yeah, how unusual it became. The old design still impressed more. And the color scheme is controversial.
        As for the cancellation of the minuses - the decision is also controversial. Although I often wrote comments for which I initially knew that I would get a bunch of minuses, but if the attitude to what was written by me or by someone else is negative, how then should this be expressed? It seems to me that it was nevertheless done so that some reputable comrades from abroad would not be driven into the minus.
        Disabling minuses for articles is of course a normal thing, as people putting a minus put it not on the article, but on the news itself. Who wrote the article suffers for nothing.
        As for increasing the number of points for the ranks. And what prevents, as before, people from gaining points by throwing slogans? Just slogans need more and all. request Those who need it very much will return their titles very quickly. hi
        1. +6
          August 20 2016
          Quote: g1v2
          As for the cancellation of the minuses - the decision is also controversial. Although I often wrote comments for which I initially knew that I would get a bunch of minuses, but if the attitude to what was written by me or by someone else is negative, how then should this be expressed? It seems to me that it was nevertheless done so that some reputable comrades from abroad would not be driven into the minus.


          So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.
          1. +14
            August 20 2016
            For example, I reasonably expressed my opinion on the comments that were criticized, but before subtracting all the points of view in the comments, it was much easier to first orient ourselves in the parties to the reasoned dispute precisely by the extreme values ​​of the estimates, EVPOCHY. I am not a supporter of sliding into “myself” at all, but a frankly anti-Russian position on a patriotic website should be minuscule or specially marked (like the way that previously minuscule discussion participants were marked with shoulder straps with skulls). It is not a question of cap-making, they say, Russia is a champion, and everything that needs to be burned against. I write that the anti-scientific and pseudo-scientific theories that developed with the weakening of statehood, related to the falsification of history, in my opinion should not be openly replicated (no one will plus, well, there will be such a neutral comment with zero). A patriotic website should set an example in this both for ordinary citizens (and also to protect the uncritically minded masses from misinformation) and the government (which frankly weakly works in this direction).
          2. +7
            August 20 2016
            Outwardly looking like reasoned opinions, they are sometimes a relay of propaganda aimed at falsifying history. Such pseudo-historical theories are widely known, here in the comments I gave specific examples of their relay. Now the spokesmen for such ideas are neutrally published on a patriotic website (such comments have a zero rating), and few people know how to reasonably counteract them, and even less who want to.
            1. 0
              August 21 2016
              If you believe that the wild nomads of the Hulk, who were appointed to be "Mongols" in the 19th century, once conquered half of the world, which, by the way, is unscientific from a military point of view, this does not mean at all that your position is "scientific ".
              There are many more logical alternatives. But since you personally want the history of Russia to be such a black, but absolutely unsubstantiated period, like the "Mongol yoke" - instead of providing reasoned evidence of this "yoke", you immediately began to scribble that "Ay, guard, this Fomenko, this is Fomenko !!! ". Even if "this Fomenko" was not here and there. Moreover, you demand to "burn out" something. Wouldn't it be better to burn out from history everything that is not presented with clear documentary evidence?
              1. 0
                August 22 2016
                What do I demand to burn out? What do I demand at all? Did not try to read? Ah, yes, they were appointed in the 19th century, and personally I want a black period. He invented something, passed it off as my words, and denied it. Technology, however!
          3. 0
            August 20 2016
            So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.

            And now you can vote for the comment, either abstained, or plus.
          4. +2
            August 20 2016
            Well, the description says that the site is not going to change "Patriotism". So in any case, any "foreigner" or opinion will be criticized, minuses.
            The Ukrainians were removed just because of the opposite opinion. Belarusians were even less than Ukrainians.
            On the site it is generally difficult to object to everyone (either a minus or a ban - only "loyal opposition" is allowed) However, quite often the "foreigners" themselves were to blame for the rather emotional and rude form of comments.
            It’s very bad that in the pursuit of patriotism, the rules are forgotten that they do not incite hatred and do not specially distort words (they especially sin against Ukraine and Ukrainians - so many are thought up that they can’t be counted, there are also a lot of Israelis, Americans)
          5. +2
            August 20 2016
            Quote: fantast
            So in a minus they were driven very often to those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing with the same reasoned argument, without making any effort, simply stupidly minus, and this often led to one-sided opinions on the site.

            Not really yours ... give an example of such pens. Maybe all the same, for the most part it was a reaction to explicit demagoguery-slander ...
          6. +11
            August 20 2016
            Quote: fantast
            So in the cons they drove very often those who had their reasoned view on the topic of communication. People, instead of arguing in the same way, without making any efforts, simply stupidly minuscated, and this is often led to one-sided opinions on the site

            - exactly negative
            - but now there will be a complete polygamy, democracy and air comfort
            - to me personally, all this reminds me of a car with a "Gas" pedal and without a "Brake" pedal

            Somehow Yes

            UPD: Font color change doesn’t work, or am I dull?
          7. +6
            August 20 2016
            Now people will write monotonous comments like "We DO NOT approve", and on the other hand, obvious trolls who have been killed to their full heads now will not leave as quickly as before. Previously, normal / sane people gave them a couple of hundred minuses and it was clear why, but now- well, 2-3 people will write negative comments, the rest will be too lazy, and if God forbid not to be lazy, then the discussion of the article will be reduced to writing comments not to the article - but to denouncing a specific character

            With the background, a complete ambush is impossible to read.
            with their comments and the reaction of readers to them, too, not everything is clear
          8. +6
            August 21 2016
            Minuses must be returned ... and one-sidedness has nothing to do with it. Only instead of completely removing the "minus" key, it was necessary to strain and make sure that the minus could be put only after arguing your position. You removed the main highlight of the site, IT'S EASY COMMUNICATION! Now, in order for me to find my post, I have to go through "Kamchatka" ...
            Plus, now the forum users do not understand whether the interlocutors answered them on their post or not ... generally wonderful.
            And the third: I sat on the site for half an hour, my eyes were gone, because of the white background.
            Why did you enlarge the format? Before, everything was clear and convenient, but now one small comment covers the entire page ...
            1. +3
              August 21 2016
              I put * + * to all who are for the return * - *. hi
          9. 0
            August 22 2016
            they didn’t bother me, I even got an idea of ​​the average temperature in ...
        2. +4
          August 20 2016
          As for the cancellation of minuses - the decision is also controversial
          It seems to me that this is nevertheless done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses.

          That's it, your fun is over! It has long been necessary to cancel! laughing
          1. +3
            August 20 2016
            MINUS LIVED, MINUS ALIVE, MINUS WILL LIVE! FROM IT. am
            1. +1
              August 20 2016
              it’s better to think about why, completely within the framework, but I will share anti-homosexual comments are deleted with greetings, and it happens that whole users
        3. +9
          August 20 2016
          Yeah, how unusual it became. The old design still impressed more. And the color scheme is controversial.
          Somehow at home it was laughing The fact that the information is now on the topics is normal, but for me the subsections were more convenient. Now in a bunch of everything. Although, this is my personal opinion.
        4. 0
          August 20 2016
          Quote: g1v2
          It seems to me that this is nevertheless done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses.
          Hodor. Hodor-hodor! laughing
        5. +1
          August 21 2016
          [quote] It seems to me that this is still done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses. [/ quote

          The top ten opals, dear [b] [/ b]
          1. +6
            August 22 2016
            And to us, authoritative comrades from abroad, that now
            order to do ??? am
            Earlier, Baron Rodschild paid me for every minus a patriot
            Hebrew a dollar, and the Rockefeller banker added two more.
            Somehow making ends meet ...
            And now - rotten. angry some pluses recourse
            1. +2
              August 22 2016
              Conclude a new contract, fiercely plus all-crawler and inadequate laughing
              1. +2
                August 22 2016
                Uh, with these Zion wise men while you face them, with their rotten
                world conspiracy, it's easier to get drunk and forget ... drinks
                And I’ll do it, I’ll go to sleep. recourse
        6. +1
          August 21 2016
          It seems to me that this is still done so that some authoritative comrades from abroad are not driven into minuses


          In the top ten, dear.
          However, preparations are underway for the elections ...
      5. 0
        August 20 2016
        IZYA, do not go forward dad
        Maybe not everyone will agree with us, but from the marshal's arms are already rippling in the eyes
    6. +18
      August 20 2016
      And the flags next to the comment?
      The site seems empty after such a radical design change.
      1. +7
        August 20 2016
        Flags will be back later
        1. +11
          August 20 2016
          Flags will be back later

          All flags will be visiting us !!!
          Dear science fiction, what is the situation with the simpler (old) quotation procedure, so that it would be clear whose quote, that it would not need to be done through copy-pest, then of course the keys in the article itself are your comments, new comments --- without this is neither really bad to navigate.
          With respect . Alexander.
          1. cap
            +5
            August 20 2016
            Alexander You are absolutely right. I agree with you. I’m sure all admins will process all the comments, but probably not all at once. As long as I read your comment I’m tired of the white background.
            Wait and see.
        2. +3
          August 20 2016
          All the same, the flag could somehow somehow judge the direction of a person’s views ...
          At one time, I myself asked that I have a red flag ... But then, after changing to Russian, I did not protest, because sometimes extremely radical (to put it mildly) calls and exclamations were heard under the red flag ...
        3. +10
          August 20 2016
          Just do not need me again to return the Romanian flag. I'm tired of explaining that I'm not a tinker!
      2. +3
        August 20 2016
        But the flags ... I want to live under my flag, native
    7. 0
      August 20 2016
      We will get used to it of course. Where are we going?
    8. +6
      August 20 2016
      Putin got to Marshals VO ......
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        Rather Serdyukov))))
      2. +2
        August 20 2016
        Like Stalin. Tot Kulika in Major General. And I'm cooler, colonels. wassat
      3. 0
        August 20 2016
        ... smiled ..
    9. +6
      August 20 2016
      Like button I definitely like it. Often the news worthy of attention but unpleasant in content went to minus.
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        That's what they did for it.
        1. +6
          August 20 2016
          And return the arrow: up and down - people need to talk
          We are here for communication
        2. 0
          August 20 2016
          Tell me, in Chrome, the block for evaluating the article during the tests did you clearly display correctly? I have an active link on the word Like extends to the left border of the star, while it is also shifted down half the height of the line. Although logically this is just a poor layout, and the star image should have a separate link at all for the size of the image, but it seems to me that this behavior is manifested only in me. Please check whether this site needs to be repaired, or my browser? If necessary, I’ll look into the debugging data, but so far I don’t want to do this.
        3. +8
          August 20 2016
          Arguments to crawl the minuses are somehow inconsistent. The system worked in both directions, depending on the opinion of those reading this comment! One could understand the greater opinion of the masses on the resource, who did not even write comments and when they didn’t write! My opinion is that the resource gravitates towards a large audience! Well, looking for your own and new comments you lose a lot of time, it’s not convenient! Good luck in development!
    10. +9
      August 20 2016
      All the same, good articles with bad news will not like.
    11. +1
      August 20 2016
      Somewhat unexpectedly .. But it looks fresh) Good luck in development!
    12. +6
      August 20 2016
      Unusual, but fresh. At first, I didn’t like some of the innovations in the form of the inability to put a minus, etc., then I remembered that this was not particularly necessary and there was nothing wrong with that. Perhaps communication here will become more cultural.

      This new plane in design is annoying - it was not at all necessary to mow under the apple with their minimalism :( white color could be dimmed if there is still such an opportunity. Believe me, reading and navigating will become easier, but it's all in my opinion.

      But overall thanks! It's nice that the site administration does not want to stand still and still takes steps to improve local amenities :)
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        white color could be suppressed if there is still such a possibility. Believe me, reading and navigating will become easier, but this is all in my opinion.


        think about it ...
        1. +8
          August 20 2016
          There are sections, but there will be no subsections? As before, in the shooter there, well, etc.?
          In general, I liked the old design more, just more convenient, at least for me. It was impossible to do with less "blood", just remove the cons and titles to correct, and leave the design?
        2. Alf
          +18
          August 20 2016
          Could you think first and then do it?
          Wasn't it possible to test the new design, say, changing the site for one week, and then counting all the pros and cons?
        3. +7
          August 20 2016
          Good day, Andrey.
          I join the request for white, it hurts too much)))
          And yet - articles and comments occupy only half the screen (left), and the entire right half is empty or in links ... It was not very convenient to perceive the information. By the way, now I’m writing and ... I don’t see what I’m writing - the keyboard interferes))) Good luck in good endeavors, it was high time to freshen up.)))
        4. 0
          August 20 2016
          Why, when scrolling through the previous comments, does the site freeze right away, or does it not display what it requested?
    13. +1
      August 20 2016
      Well, you give a pancake! We will live now in a new way.
    14. +4
      August 20 2016
      Wow! laughing
      At first we were shocked! But then nothing calmed down. bully
    15. +8
      August 20 2016
      It’s high time to do this, otherwise I don’t want to discuss the topic sometimes, many to get + go to golimy urya-patriotism, such as "throw our hats", without arguing and not giving OUR opinion, using newspaper clichés.
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        This is one of the main reasons for the abolition of cons. Good thing you understand that.
        1. +2
          August 20 2016
          Maybe with the new order the marshals "Shaposhnikovs" (as I call them for myself) will leave the site with their mindless giggle on any topic. Without a doubt, one must believe in one's Motherland and in one's Weapons, but no matter what modern weapon is discussed, but they have a ready answer to everything: "... another cut of stupid ovs ..!" etc. etc. As long as in these wilds you will find a sound comment (informative reference, personal experience or a reasoned refutation of an established opinion), then 7 pots can sometimes come off.
          I, like some comrades, are higher in the text for returning flags.
          1. +1
            August 20 2016
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Maybe with the new order the marshals "Shaposhnikovs" (as I call them for myself) will leave the site with their mindless giggle on any topic. Without a doubt, one must believe in one's Motherland and in one's Weapons, but no matter what modern weapon is discussed, but they have a ready answer to everything: "... another cut of stupid ovs ..!" etc. etc. As long as in these wilds you will find a sound comment (informative reference, personal experience or a reasoned refutation of an established opinion), then 7 pots can sometimes come off.

            And somehow I did not notice these so-called wilds ...

            But now the same spiteful critics of Russia will be nice and free ... what will you oppose them? As they say in Russia, "For every sneeze you are not happy !!!"
        2. +12
          August 20 2016
          Stop Stop Stop Stop Cancellation of minuses will not affect the "hurray" comments in any way. On the contrary, it will only aggravate this matter. I understand that you, dear fantast You are the father (or one of the fathers) of the new VO design. So already they wrote about the barely loading commentary tape and the lack of cons for frankly Troll comments. Figs with straps and shoulder straps - not for this I write, but in order to express my opinion and to know the opinion of others on my opinion. Now it is not recognizable either by ratings or by comments. It is not possible to find your comments and continue the discussion. I will write this comment now and will not find it. It’s like in social networks - an endless stream without history. Discussions are completely killed. He spoke up and went for a walk.
        3. +12
          August 21 2016
          Dear fantast, what no, but there was an element of democracy. When voting, no one asks: “Justify, but justify why you raised your hand“ for ”or“ against. ”The votes are counted and decisions are made based on them. And everyone understands everything.
          I often wondered why at VO some directly experienced the minuses inserted by him, without a detailed report of why and for what. That's how interesting they slept and ate, and were there any serious diseases due to nervous breakdown, maybe we don’t know what ..?
          It’s business to ban the admins and hang shoulder straps and we don’t go into your business and don’t think to get involved, well, you would have left us the right to vote, otherwise the "chancellor act" comes to mind ...
    16. +3
      August 20 2016
      Goodbye golden shoulder straps! crying laughing
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        We used to say: "Rear Admiral is not a title, but happiness ..." Many who said this are no longer there, but the caprangs, nothing, live for themselves, without such "happiness."
        So - be equal to "centenarians!" Yes
    17. +38
      August 20 2016
      It got a lot worse! It would be better if we made a clear order ... a huge band in the answers in time. It’s difficult to track how much anyone gave comments. We don’t care about the ranks and minuses, we don’t go for the same thing here. Here infa is much more objective than on TV. I apologize for the grunts, but they are not looking for good from good.
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        Much worse what? Write more clearly please
        1. Alf
          +27
          August 20 2016
          Explain available.
          1. In the Armament section, return the breakdown by combat arms.
          2. In PM, return your comments, your rating in numbers.
          3. Return the opportunity to find your comments directly in the article.
          4. Return the system of minuses (with a change-If you put a minus, I must give a comment for what). Otherwise, the site will instantly drown due to troll attacks.
          5. Enter an increase or decrease in the rating for the "Literacy" characteristic. It is not difficult to do this, the program for the removal of swearing and swearing works.
          1. +1
            August 21 2016
            maybe add points for the usefulness of the comment? sometimes a negative comment is interesting if reasoned! but the type "you are going the right way, comrades" finally is not interesting! there were pluses and minuses for this request
          2. +14
            August 21 2016
            1. In the Armament section, return the breakdown by combat arms.
            2. In PM, return your comments, your rating in numbers.
            3. Return the opportunity to find your comments directly in the article.
            4. Return the system of minuses (with a change-If you put a minus, I must give a comment for what). Otherwise, the site will instantly drown due to troll attacks.
            5. Enter an increase or decrease in the rating for the "Literacy" characteristic. It is not difficult to do this, the program for the removal of swearing and swearing works.


            In short, return the site!
            1. +8
              August 21 2016
              Verily!
              Previously, the site resembled one wide highway with a bunch of traffic lanes, and now - 10000000000 bypass dirt paths for cyclists ...
              In short - We wanted the best, but it turned out ...

              The only reasonable grain in all discussions of innovations - An indispensable explanation of the drawback minus - For what exactly did you slap it to him? .. For hurray-quackers already got it ...
          3. 0
            August 24 2016
            I completely agree. The new design does not like at all.
        2. +7
          August 20 2016
          Where are country flags?
        3. +41
          August 20 2016
          Much worse what? Write more clearly please

          Honestly, everything. Ergonomics were particularly affected. Previously, the column News, Economics and Politics lived quietly and peacefully in one page, you go to the site - you can immediately see what's new. Now, for some reason, they were greatly "pushed apart" - here is the most necessary information that this news was added at sixteen o'clock on August 20. - now even the news with a short name is two lines. At the same time, the news is now "across", but not everything, but if you want everything - either go to the appropriate section or use the arrows on the main site. Well, why is this?
          Earlier there was a clear presentation of information "in a column", i.e. the arrangement of news and articles from top to bottom is convenient and natural for the eyes. Now everything is for some reason across. Looking at the analyst's section, the Big Announcement immediately catches my eye - Erdogan's Pyrrhic victory! I look below, where the rest of the materials are laid out in a line, I read ... Erdogan's Pyrrhic victory!
          I open the article. There are new comments, but to find them, you need to scroll through the entire tape. There were no problems before - a splash screen popped up with new comments. You could at least go over your own comments, see if anyone answered. Now there is none of this. The zrada is complete.
          1. +15
            August 20 2016
            The comment response box is just some kind of ambush. A kind of "miracle" gets out on 2/3 of the discussion feed, completely overlapping the text of the comment to which you are responding - and think about where to attach it so that you can insert quotes normally. Quotes, by the way, do not want to be inserted normally - instead of being copied into the comment response window, for some reason they are copied into the upper window, which is used to add new comments to the article. Of course, it is not difficult to copy from there to the comment response window, but then you have to wind the entire feed again in search of the comment to which you are responding ...
            But there was an "archival" function to publish a quote from a comment on Facebook or some other Twitter. No, well, seriously - who will do it, and why? I don’t know, maybe someone needs it, but cut important functions and add something that will be used by one out of a thousand ... strange
          2. +14
            August 20 2016
            I fully support. I'm not a veteran here, but honestly, if everything remains as it is, I will have to change the resource due to unreadability
            1. +3
              August 20 2016
              That's what is interesting - because of the disappearance of the arrow prompting the comment to which you are responding, you will not immediately realize whether you are writing to me or to someone else. hi
              1. +4
                August 21 2016
                Yes, I myself can’t understand to whom you write to me or to another) two people can now quarrel because someone thought that they were writing something about him))
        4. +9
          August 20 2016
          The message "Loading ..." at the top and awesome sizes EMPTY in the width of the bar on the right - this is definitely "SUPERPLUS". + 5 years to study tags, more specifically, those "geniuses" who "made happy" with a new design (freaks, in short).
          "The widest range of colors": WHOLE THREE - black (text), white (background EVERYWHERE), red (some buttons and a title) - definitely "progress". Directly "new word, the BIGGEST"! And the red color was left, they would have removed it too. What to waste on trifles, to cut - so everything is "colored".
          A sort of black and white "color scheme" would be. Minimalistic, again, you can watch b / w TVs without losing quality (if you find such a TV set).
          1. +1
            August 21 2016
            so that it looks on BW smartphones)
    18. +1
      August 20 2016
      And what will happen with the mobile version, there were a number of lags.
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        Mobile version will be approximately days in 10
    19. +10
      August 20 2016
      If I am subject to appeal, please leave me as a senior warrant officer. Nostalgia, you know ...
    20. +3
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow

      And for some, life makes no sense wink IMHO
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        And I even seem to know for whom wassat
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      3. +3
        August 20 2016
        Raise your hand ... and drop it sharply.
        Marshal of a month exposure ... I will not say anything
    21. +1
      August 20 2016
      Yes, you really have to master it almost in a new way, but I like what is stated. The main thing is that everything works immediately and without jambs, otherwise there will be many misunderstandings !!!
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        Report a jamb. The one who does nothing is not mistaken.
        1. +4
          August 20 2016
          In the article about "Video of the Armata Tower" I was looking for a very long time where to leave a comment? There is nowhere! Found something similar in the upper right corner (orange). Unsubscribed, gone somewhere ... there is no comment in the profile. Well, okay, let's figure it out! As Vladimir Semyonovich said. And while I can not find "quote" - I only pop up "to answer or complain", although people are quoting with might and main. And so while you bump the answer with one finger already and it is not clear who answered.
        2. +17
          August 20 2016
          It's not a mistake that he does not do anything.

          using the site you involuntarily recall jokes about programmers
        3. +4
          August 20 2016
          It slows down very much ...
          How to highlight an opponent’s comment?
          In short, the FSB specifically filters VO
        4. +18
          August 20 2016
          There is a saying among techies: It works - do not touch!
          However, as usual. We wanted the best - it turned out as always.
    22. +7
      August 20 2016
      at my age it’s hard to put up with new products, but try to cope.
      1. +11
        August 20 2016
        All the same, it somehow hits the eyes ...
        I, too, now sit in glasses, which I put on only for reading books, and somehow ... uncomfortable, or something ... And it hurts my eyes ...

        Maybe at least make the background slightly grayish, so as not to "hit" in the eyes?
    23. 0
      August 20 2016
      Nice, kind of comfortable. On mobile screens shows the norms?
      1. 0
        August 24 2016
        It is basically usable there. Everything slows down terribly.
    24. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: fantast
      That's what they did for it.

      Check check
      1. +6
        August 20 2016
        When you click on a comment (in the general stream of comments), the link does not display you on this comment in the article.
        I hope that it’s just underestimated because without this, commenting is simply a problem.
        1. +3
          August 20 2016
          We will return this opportunity later.
        2. 0
          August 20 2016
          Sanya is temporary, then fix
          1. +4
            August 20 2016
            Am I missing something? what
            1. +6
              August 20 2016
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Am I missing something?

              - for sure. Small Armageddon in VO fellow
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    25. +7
      August 20 2016
      Wow! .. Not every general can be demoted to captain laughing
    26. +34
      August 20 2016
      Well, here is my personal opinion. I do not like the new design. I spit on the ranks. Get ready to face the problem of trolling. Given the popularity of the resource, I hope you have enough moderators.
      1. +9
        August 20 2016
        They wanted the best, but it turned out as always ... at the expense of the trolls I agree - will there be enough moderators ?! belay Yes, and the rating of the moderator is still the assessment of one person - and subjectivity is not going anywhere !!!

        You won’t accept a million moderators - because minus really helped you too !!!

        And all systems have drawbacks, and a system with drawbacks too, but keep the blow from our so-called "partners", etc. etc. this system allowed. And not all people who are quite worthy can express themselves correctly, but all our friends from abroad are quite adept at demagoguery and verbiage ...

        The old design was much more informative, if only because there was much more information per unit area of ​​the screen and at the same time it did not interfere with each other.
    27. +70
      August 20 2016
      The site has become like everyone else. White background, a couple of pictures - bald, uncomfortable. The old one had its own wonderful design. Why redo the best for the worse? All the marshalls there did not bother me, because I did not even know what they were. Buttons minus no - this is censorship. If, for example, a person writes - you (the opponent) are weak-witted, will you write a rationale in response to him that you are not?
      1. +29
        August 20 2016
        That's right, now it will be easier for the team of trolls, or even worse, for the team of the "potential enemy" - you can always wind up more pluses on your comment than on a reasoned objection.

        Plus, it was clear before: you point the cursor at the pros and cons counter and see how much for and how much against the opinion. it usually became clear that the battle was going on and if the comment was liking - you support the author with a plus, it is easier than to write a new comment in response and lie.
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    28. +2
      August 20 2016
      Well, finally, the expression of your thoughts (within the law) can be done without fear of falling under the wrath of the people!
      1. aba
        +6
        August 20 2016
        you can do without fear of falling under the wrath of the people!

        How is the forum ?!
        Something is hard to believe that there you showed yourself not very well (to put it mildly), but here within the law.
        So here we will spoil ... sad
      2. +1
        August 20 2016
        Do not be afraid of the opinions of the people!
      3. +9
        August 20 2016
        Quote: Dan4eG
        ... expression of your thoughts can be done ...

        - I wonder what language it is written in.
        - in fact, systems without negative feedback are usually unstable and prone to self-destruction (this is again about the "cons")

        Voooot ... laughing
    29. +1
      August 20 2016
      No matter how it is designed, the main thing is to be interesting and informative.
      1. +20
        August 20 2016
        And here let me disagree with you, Pitot.
        Well, the bare white background is not very happy, before that I read without glasses.
        Now you have to go into the settings specifically for the VO in order to set the font readable.
        (this is for junk like me)
    30. +10
      August 20 2016
      First VK, now VO ... Who is next? We are betting, gentlemen!
      1. +5
        August 20 2016
        Before VO was KONT
        and VK has a more marginal contingent
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      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        Is this what this topic is all about?
        1. +31
          August 20 2016
          and this is by the way an illustration of the fact that taking away the minuses is a clear mistake of the administration.

          In the old version, the minutes would be stuck and everything is clear - the person is a balobol, a troll and a fluder - and the further attitude towards him in OTHER topics has already been formed, but now 2 likes stand, is it normal?
          1. +8
            August 20 2016
            And not 2 but 7, and you won’t do anything. Although here a friend seems to have launched this on purpose.
            1. +5
              August 20 2016
              Quote: Smog
              And not 2 but 7, and you won’t do anything. Although here a friend seems to have launched this on purpose.

              Maybe a troll, or maybe you're right - not the point.
              The important thing is that I agree with you and Gomel completely - canceling the minuses is a 100% miss, unless of course ... I don’t even want to talk about it am
    32. +26
      August 20 2016
      and where are the buttons
      Your comments
      New comments
      Without this, it’s really bad.
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        Usually, after such updates, secondary functions are added a little later, I think those responsible for the site are not fools, they will return amenities, but at a new level.
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          Usually, after such updates, secondary functions are added a little later, I think those responsible for the site are not fools, they will return amenities, but at a new level.

          Well, your words, I hope, are close to reality. After all, the functions listed by Atalef are by no means secondary, and without them the convenience of using the portal is reduced significantly.
          I will join the criticism of the new color composition of the site, namely the white White WHITE background (after 10 minutes my eyes started to leak ...).
          Yes, on my small screen, the text occupies hardly 60%. For fun, I launched the site on TV and was horrified! Text takes up a quarter of the screen! (Although it used to take 2/3)
          By the minuses (although the meaning was in them, but it is mentioned in the comments before me) I will not particularly miss, because I tried not to use this tool ...
          While writing this comment, I came across the following problem: The "reply to comment" window takes up too much space (only the page header remains at the top, the same amount of space at the bottom. Well, the avatars are visible on the left ...). The window itself can be dragged, but there is little sense in this. You need a "minimize" button, or the ability to resize the window.
          Good luck to the VO team in updating the site. hi I hope all the bugs will be fixed, and the site will be no worse than before in terms of convenience wink laughing
          1. +3
            August 21 2016
            While he was going to answer Atalef, on Android, everything moved God knows where. On Android it got worse before it was fine. MAIL --- sent yesterday, today. Several, EvgNik and today to Alexander Romanov - I did not reflect in the sent, although a color message came. I got past comments I deleted ?????? How to save. Regarding the minuses --- I sometimes put cons for bad, disrespectful words, and didn’t explain --- it seemed to me that this was understandable. I myself didn’t call anyone bad words! I also didn’t explain if the previous ones put the minuses explained. If I put the minuses and didn’t explain --- I can understand the convictions of others. Administration: return the cons! I agree to explain if this will be universal her wish! w
          2. 0
            August 21 2016
            Quote: Rader
            After all, the functions listed by Atalef are by no means secondary, and without them the convenience of using the portal is reduced significantly.
            Objectively, they are secondary. Most comment sites do without them.
            Quote: Rader
            white to WHITE background (after 10 minutes eyes started to flow out ...).
            I recommend adjusting the screen brightness and other characteristics according to the ergonomic recommendations of the device / monitor user manual. These ergonomic recommendations are always somewhere at the end of the manual. In particular, everything is fine with the background, my eyes do not follow from any site with a white background, or from Word or anything else. Actually, I don’t even remember (because you don’t pay attention to the correctly chosen background) what background was on the previous site, but it seems to be completely white as well. The gray dice for comments were sort of, but the background was white.
    33. +4
      August 20 2016
      was a colonel, became a lieutenant ???? by what criteria did they drop the military rank on the site? although it is not so important for me, but still?
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        Accordingly, by which they deprived of the title of Jean Paul Piskunov .... laughing
      2. +2
        August 20 2016
        I understand that this is a banal proportion. they took for a 100% marshal, for 0 - an ordinary. Counted your (and all users) points, a simple formula. Then they drove to new standards and now .... with the marshal, I became a colonel. not sickly so laughing
        Although essentially all the same!
        1. Alf
          0
          August 21 2016
          I understand that this is a banal proportion. they took for a 100% marshal, for 0 - an ordinary. Counted your (and all users) points, a simple formula. Then they drove to new standards and here ....

          It’s just not clear what kind of marshal was taken as a reference point? Who just got epaulets with 100.000 or who has 500.000?
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      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        It doesn’t, it comments are loaded dynamically, as it is now fashionable.
    35. +5
      August 20 2016
      However, it’s radical (for some it’s just QUALITY!)
      The main thing is that it is not clear on what principle "points-goals-seconds" were credited to visitors.
      And so - wait and see.
    36. Alf
      +27
      August 20 2016
      It seems that the site administration has changed the design from the principle-We need to do something, we do not know what, so at least the design will change.
      After a couple of days, conduct a survey of how much for the old design and how much for the new. Just be honest.
      It would be better to do the writing literacy. Very often it is not possible to read.
      1. +2
        August 20 2016
        damn .... I wanted to put you a minus, but here "zrada" is such laughing
        The chip of change is not only in the points system. You can see right away who is even a little bit close to understanding the writing of sites that the portal has become much nicer to work in terms of response. Apparently, the code was substantially redone!
        I like it so far!
        1. +3
          August 20 2016
          "Damn, I wanted to put you a minus, but here the" zrada "is such" ...

          Here I am, old, and did not understand now - WHO YOU said THIS ???
          It's me - not to your address - but to the address of new content ...
        2. +2
          August 20 2016
          Quote: silver_roman
          You can see right away who is even a little bit close to understanding the writing of sites that the portal has become much nicer to work in terms of response.

          I somehow did not notice while the amenities in terms of response, but the troubles on the face, while the brake is so awesome ...
      2. +1
        August 20 2016
        Well, if the administration is engaged in literacy of writers, then it would be worth starting with you: it’s impossible to teach the prefix to write a prefix wink
        1. Alf
          0
          August 20 2016
          In this case, the word "impossible" is enclosed in quotation marks.
          1. 0
            August 20 2016
            Quotation marks in Russian do not isolate anything at all. Should the administration again teach this?
      3. +2
        August 20 2016
        It would be better to do the writing literacy. Very often it is not possible to read.
        Judging by how you are the circumstance of the mode of action "impossible" wrote - that’s it! Literate, you are ours! laughing
        1. Alf
          +5
          August 20 2016
          Literate, you are ours!

          The comma is superfluous.
          1. +5
            August 20 2016
            Well ... Even with the new design of the site, Boa KAA and Alf have already exchanged "pleasantries" ...

            All the same, the change is really getting on my nerves, including me ...

            Guys, do something to make reading and reacting comfortable ...

            PS And this means practically - if anyone has not forgotten this song - "Bring back the music" ...
            The devil with them - ranks, but it was still more or less convenient to receive information, and respond to it, and communicate ...
          2. 0
            August 21 2016
            ..A ABOUT AUTHOR'S SIGNS KNOW ..- I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMAND IN THIS CASE MEANS A PAUSE ..
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      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        A very transparent allusion to our beloved "composer"? He's a lot more.
    38. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Res_Ullus
      And for some, life will lose its meaning IMHO

      They will go to binges laughing
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        Following the directions I went.
        Not honestly, the phone is really inconvenient. Although I may get used to it.
      2. +3
        August 21 2016
        They will go to binges

        Alexander, you feel this is your favorite trick: "Stop drinking", "Go into drinking binges" and so on in the same spirit. Probably you yourself are abusing, or vice versa - "sewn". AND?
    39. +3
      August 20 2016
      Yes, here they demoted everyone))))) then leave by the last military rank-senior midshipman, if possible)))
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        And who did not serve that machine-gun laughing
        1. +2
          August 20 2016
          I agree, I support hi
        2. +5
          August 20 2016
          And who did not serve that machine-gun


          And do not change anymore!
        3. +1
          August 20 2016
          Alexander, after all, when I registered on the site two years ago, on the first day, I really thought that the real ranks of the military were indicated. And he was looking for the count in his account, where to indicate my rank. But the next day, suspicion crept in due to the abundance of senior and senior officers, which in real life does not exist.
          So, according to the "denomination" of titles, that's right. Not so eyes cut.
          But now there will be many wishes for the new edition - then, perhaps, make a temporary special mailbox on the main page dedicated to this particular topic? If so, technically possible.
          1. +8
            August 20 2016
            But now there will be many wishes for the new edition - then, perhaps, make a temporary special mailbox on the main page dedicated to this particular topic? If so, technically possible.


            And I would suggest using both versions. Who likes what. Technically possible.
            1. Alf
              +1
              August 21 2016
              And I would suggest using both versions. Who likes what. Technically possible.

              Technically, it’s possible, but, I'm afraid, the vast majority will go to the old version and the administration, as it were, to put it mildly, will be put in a puddle with such innovations.
        4. aba
          0
          August 20 2016
          And who did not serve that machine-gun

          It is possible easier:
          - rank and file
          - junior officers
          - senior officers
          - senior officers
          Above only the administration and moderators, curators. And that’s it! Enough!
          No carrots in front of the nose.
    40. +7
      August 20 2016
      Not a little bit more time and everything will be clear. Do not forget to click on the advertisement and is on the advertisement page for at least 30 seconds.
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        it goes without saying
      2. +8
        August 20 2016
        Do not forget to click on ads
        I apologize for the obscene question, but why?
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          Probably shaking money ...
        2. +5
          August 20 2016
          and I just described just this scourge that may fall on the site — the parish is not of idiots, but of advertising agents / prodovanov / political parties — taking advantage of the fact that you won’t kill them immediately will live / prosper / move a complete heresy
          which confirms the experience Ilmir099
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    42. +49
      August 20 2016
      The appearance is terrible.
      To me, the past design is simpler and more understandable.
      1. +13
        August 20 2016
        support
      2. +1
        August 20 2016
        On Android it slows down! Help! I only have a tablet working!
        1. +2
          August 21 2016
          Slows down on Android - to put it mildly. W0pa full. It is impossible to leave a comment, it is not clear where it flies, it is inconvenient to watch comments, it scrolls poorly. Actually, for the sake of comments, the people were sitting here.
      3. 0
        August 20 2016
        I agree!
        But probably not just
    43. 0
      August 20 2016
      Ufff, as you feel better on your shoulders ... Well, with an initiative ... The design is not familiar, but we'll get used to it ....
    44. +1
      August 20 2016
      But only my site crashes? (I'm sitting on the phone)
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        This dynamic loading of comments is a very unfortunate thing for an actively discussed topic.
      2. 0
        August 20 2016
        all in my opinion. I'm sitting on a computer, I can’t print a message normally ...
      3. 0
        August 21 2016
        on the PC the same crap. even when typing an answer, the delay goes
        1. +1
          August 21 2016
          Innovations, innovations .... we will speak frankly, thoroughly done, not the site. Looking disgusting.
      4. +1
        August 21 2016
        Not just cuddles, but hellishly lays.
    45. +2
      August 20 2016
      Gomel,
      clicked more - quoted and my koment flew to the very bottom belay
      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        When quoting before
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          Quote: Old very
          When quoting before

          Only now, to quote, it is necessary to do so many extra gestures in response ... negative
      2. +9
        August 20 2016
        Yeah, the fact is that in the new design the tree (branches) of comments is disgustingly organized before at least in color were different ...
    46. +13
      August 20 2016
      Will the buttons "My comment" and "New comments" be returned to the header? It used to be convenient to read updates or replies to my comments ...
      1. +3
        August 21 2016
        In addition, with "My Comments" it was convenient to go to previously read and commented articles and respond to opponents.
    47. Alf
      +26
      August 20 2016
      Previously, I went into the armament and immediately chose the topic. Now everything is piled up. I'm not interested in the fleet, I'm interested in armor. So now, to read the new articles on BTT, I have to get through all the news.
      Design minus.
    48. +39
      August 20 2016
      To be honest, I didn’t like the new design at all, it’s very inconvenient, the information spreads over the pictures and large headlines, where what to look for intuitively is very difficult and inconvenient as before. It is clear that the administration of the site has the right to do whatever it wants, but to radically disfigure it so much is not comme il faut. Regarding the ratings of the articles, the question is the same debatable, are the articles themselves provocative or outright trolling and what is their opinion only in the comments? I completely agree with the ranks that many people set the goal of getting the ranks at any cost. To summarize, I’ll try to get used to the inconvenience of the current design, I won’t get used to it, I’ll leave, the trouble for the site will not be great.
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        As for the pictures, I agree, my eyes run wide, earlier it was stricter and easier.
      2. +2
        August 20 2016
        Take your time with the rating. Admins read everything, a lot has to be taken into account.
        But slam the door is not worth it.
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      1. +2
        August 20 2016
        He also loves bats ...
    50. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: atalef
      It’s not convenient to insert quotes, where are the flags? Cosmopolitan am ?

      Why is quoting inconvenient? Seems to be OK.

      But the flags were removed correctly, too many glitches with them. Tired of being in Moscow writing with the flag of Moldova, then of some other state-va.
      1. +17
        August 20 2016
        Previously, it was enough to mark the line and click - quote, it showed the source of the quote and place, it was possible to quote from many comments.
        Now the window of your comment is blocked by the comment you are reading and if you want to quote it, you need to do a lot of unnecessary actions - move the window, copy it, press -quote, insert the source of the quote is not visible at the same time.
        When quoting through MISCELLANEOUS - to answer, the comment window automatically flies to the top of the page and the comment you are responding to is not visible.
        To date, I would say the previous system was perfect, it is advisable to return what was in terms of ease of use for writing comments and quoting maybe this is 90% of the site’s convenience.
        1. +8
          August 20 2016
          I agree, completely. Better to modify the old than to invent a new one.
        2. +12
          August 20 2016
          I agree, completely. Better to modify the old than to invent a new one. Climbed the site, no, not that! It used to be more convenient, and the changes that the developers are talking about could be more correctly implemented in the old design.
        3. +7
          August 20 2016
          I agree with otalef. Old is easier. Here it is so tricky ...
    51. +13
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And you read the article

      We read it, we laugh at the lighter shoulder straps, especially for you, it’s a pity to exchange general’s ones for sergeants’ ones, well, to comply with the regulations?
      However, it doesn't matter. laughing
      A user asked you a question, how do you, in your typical manner, immediately send a slightly rude message with his, or anyone’s, comments - go and find out for yourself why this behavior? request
      The site is new, but the habits are old.
      The site has been updated, yes, but it has become less convenient. what
      One last note: the pursuit of points, well, yes, there are zealous ones - when interjections Urya, forward Russia, Urya!!!!!! in the first comments to articles the harvest is collected. crying
      And this was, is and will be, the assessment should not be based on this, but on the quality of the comments and the number of responses given to them - more approval, which means the status or rank is higher, less, no approval, the status, rank does not change. hi
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        Is it rudeness that a person is too lazy to read the article? In our own way, we are used to reading only the headlines, and I am to blame for this.
        1. +9
          August 20 2016
          Well, you are the moderator here, and if so, then you are the first among equals to comply with the Rules, and as a moderator and employee you are OBLIGATED to give explanations, especially after such a major shake-up. laughing
          To quote someone, you suffer, who is responsible for this?
          Write out some kind of tirade for him in your manner... am
    52. +14
      August 20 2016
      Well, as always, the new is the enemy of the good.
      Previously, everything worked amazingly from the phone, now it’s crawling like a turtle, by the time I wrote this I was already exhausted. And they still piled up advertisements.
      Terrible, in short.
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        On the contrary, on my phone everything is displayed even more smoothly than before.
      2. 0
        August 21 2016
        adg uard antiba nner is on the PC, there are 0 advertisements. There are probably also ads on mobile
    53. +3
      August 20 2016
      I decided to go in and comment on the new look of the site.
      I usually use a tablet and the first thing that caught my eye was the slowdown. Once the tablet even had to be rebooted.
      On the old design, even if 10+ tabs were open, everything worked without lags.
      I hope you fix it, logging in through the computer somehow doesn’t appeal to me.
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        Through a PC it’s even worse than from a tablet.
    54. +10
      August 20 2016
      It’s strange, he was a major general and became a senior lieutenant. Does the site administration accidentally want to justify these actions? Or “I’m the owner, I steer the way I want and I don’t care about the opinions of the participants.” And the removal of minuses will still come back to haunt you. Damn, I’ve lost even the desire to go to the site now negative
      1. +2
        August 20 2016
        Did you come to the site for shoulder straps and backing tracks? So those who were chasing cardboard shoulder straps and the desire for an unreasonable barrage of backing tracks of all comments in a row will be eliminated
        1. Alf
          +7
          August 20 2016
          Why then did you not reduce yourself to senior leader or captain? Or according to the principle - “I’m the boss, you”?
          1. Alf
            +11
            August 20 2016
            I earned my shoulder straps honestly, not by shouting: Everything is gone or Everything is great with us. And with real messages.
            1. +9
              August 20 2016
              And I mean, everything was fair. I don’t care about shoulder straps, I’m just wondering on what basis some were retained as generals and others were demoted. As for the minuses, we were deprived of expressing our opinion. Why can't I downvote an offensive statement, etc.?
              1. +7
                August 20 2016
                You just need to give Romanov the right to minus.
      2. +1
        August 21 2016
        In terms of ranks, I wouldn't mind him. They are still virtual. Although deserved by some. (I don’t count myself among those.) Deserved by truly intelligent comments and especially articles. But here is the design of the site and the “brakes”..... No desire to look. And this white color. Horrible!!!!!
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      1. +1
        August 20 2016
        Quote: f.lourens
        Looks nice... just need to get used to the new design...


        That's it, "Pretty"... laughing laughing laughing
    56. +7
      August 20 2016
      Everything seems to be fine, but the white background strains the eyesight.
      1. +4
        August 20 2016
        I agree, it's annoying.
      2. +3
        August 20 2016
        Yes, please do something with the white background, it’s hard on the eyes. And I’m very glad that the site is working.
    57. +8
      August 20 2016
      Yesterday State Emergency Committee, today denomination request what we had then what
    58. +12
      August 20 2016
      Am I the only one whose site is frankly slow? Speaking of design, in my opinion TOP Var now resembles VAR FILES, and I had, to put it mildly, not a friendly attitude towards the latter both because of the quality of the material and because of the abundance of advertising, behind which you couldn’t even see the article. In general, changes are like VKontakte, changes for the sake of changes.
      1. +6
        August 20 2016
        no, and I was lucky too, it slows down a little and also freezes, and in the end all my comments disappeared somewhere, the site is terribly crude, it’s not clear why it was necessary to load it with such defects
      2. 0
        August 21 2016
        adblocker ultimate. And they all went with advertising!
    59. +1
      August 20 2016
      Alf,
      Have you read this article??? For whom is everything written?
    60. +19
      August 20 2016
      It used to be better sad
      1. +13
        August 20 2016
        I agree with the titles and cons. The rest has gotten worse so far. They promised to add pictures, but the quotes are absolutely terrible. The readability of the thread has become worse.
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          Maybe a separate branch should be painted with a different color background? And so, on this, I agree with Oleg.
          1. +21
            August 20 2016
            Where is the blacklist?

            Bring back the old, tried and true, popular design. You will lose your visitors and your advertising income will disappear.
            1. +3
              August 20 2016
              It’s just that atalef got 9 warnings, something had to be done with them, well, you know...
            2. +2
              August 20 2016
              Quote: professor
              Bring back the old, tried and true, popular design. You will lose your visitors and your advertising income will disappear.


              By the way, I agree with you, although there was a time when I was on your black list... laughing

              But I don’t agree with the minuses, and I can use the same argument... You will lose visitors and your advertising income will cry...!!!
            3. +1
              August 20 2016
              they wrote exactly the same way when we switched to the previous design. There is a habit, there is a taste, and it is different for everyone. In fact, almost nothing has changed. Major changes are only on the main page.
              1. +2
                August 20 2016
                That's why she's the MAIN one. She sets the tone.
              2. +4
                August 21 2016

                1
                fantast Yesterday, 20:50
                they wrote exactly the same way when we switched to the previous design
                Let's read between the lines: just like last time, no one intends to listen to the opinions of site visitors.
            4. +1
              August 20 2016
              Quote: professor
              Where is the blacklist?
              well in vain. Actually, pearl grains are sometimes found there, although you have to dig, Oleg Batkovich, but you can even miss the husks, oh, you see on the winnowing machine, you didn’t work on a state farm laughing

              Bring back the old, tried and true, popular design. You will lose your visitors and your advertising income will disappear.

              On the one hand, yes. Yurka (Evil Parasite wassat ) threatened to leave, on the other hand, Sanya (AVP) and Lexey (TV) suddenly showed up, which I’m glad about. And I think the site will be brought to fruition, although:
              -Commander, they got some parrots in the next barracks, let’s get some in ours, let’s see, even a goat, a grandma, oh, let’s ask, like?
              - Well, what about the smell?
              - What about the smell, we’re used to it, and he’ll get used to it belay drinks
    61. +1
      August 20 2016
      Looks nice...all that's left is to get used to the new design....one question: will the flags be returned??? recourse
    62. 0
      August 20 2016
      Will there be a mobile version of the new site?
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        will be in about 10 days
    63. +18
      August 20 2016
      It’s a pity that the cons were removed... And ranks from general and above should be awarded ONLY if there are articles posted on VO. Posted one article - he rose from colonel to major general, +5 more articles - lieutenant general, +10 more... Without articles in VO you cannot raise the rank above major. And then the marshals, whose 90% of comments are in the style of “and this is good...”, are in darkness. But the “Professor” with a ton of publications was “demoted” with minuses to captain.
      1. +6
        August 20 2016
        And now half of the “articles” are stupid reprints from the bmpd blog. Can you imagine what will happen when the title begins to depend on the articles? 9/10 it will be a dull and banal copy-paste about just about anything.
        1. +4
          August 20 2016
          This is exactly @comrade Sukhov.
          I found some articles on the Internet, copied and pasted them - and they were all covered in chocolate.
    64. Alf
      +2
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Dan4eG
      Well, finally, you can express your thoughts (within the law) without fear of falling under the wrath of the people

      Tell this to the carbine with his enchanting nonsense. Previously, it was possible to downvote him with an explanation of the reason, but now you have to see his nonsense.
      1. Alf
        +1
        August 20 2016
        You can ban him, but he will remain on the site.
    65. +1
      August 20 2016
      You just have to get used to it laughing Maybe this way there will really be fewer (spammers)?
      1. Alf
        +5
        August 20 2016
        Maybe this way there will really be fewer (spammers)?

        Why would they leave? The system of minuses has been abolished, what a freedom.
        Already attached above - Watch the ad for at least 30 seconds.
    66. +1
      August 20 2016
      Great! Nice design! wink
    67. 0
      August 20 2016
      Why are there 2 comments???
    68. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Rostov2016
      It would be nice to update the moderating staff - to make it more adequate. The moderator is the Putinoid monarchist Alexander Romanov

      I'm not a mod laughing
      1. +2
        August 20 2016
        Are there no subsections now? Previously there were, in terms of weapons, etc., sad sad sadly
        1. 0
          August 20 2016
          there will be a separate page with links to all subsections
    69. +2
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Rostov2016
      Alexander Romanov (fake name) should be deprived of his title and powers,

      regarding powers - yesterday I saw that he is now just a visitor Yes
      1. 0
        August 21 2016
        Yes, apparently, I’ve already played enough. ..:(
    70. +3
      August 20 2016
      Well, a fresh wind blew. Well, design won't change the essence. Communicating on the site and reading opinions is extremely interesting.
      1. Alf
        +6
        August 20 2016
        It's just difficult.
    71. +21
      August 20 2016
      Why remove the cons? It would be better to return the opportunity to see who downvoted me. It's not interesting to have couch fights without downsides. sad It’s not a sin to get a couple of minuses from your opponents for your opinion, even if they minus you until you’re blue in the face.
      1. +15
        August 20 2016
        I agree, by the way, the disadvantages can indicate that the opinion is wrong. In my opinion, having removed the disadvantages, the editors followed the path of tolerance.
        1. +4
          August 20 2016
          Oh, and my interest in sports has disappeared!
      2. +3
        August 20 2016
        Quote: 0255
        It’s not a sin to get a couple of minuses from your opponents for your opinion, even if they minus you until you’re blue in the face.

        By the way, the presence of a large number of minuses, for example in myself, I could, on the contrary, perceive that I was writing everything correctly, since the minuses were clearly from “our friends, the Liberoids”...

        Cancellation of cons, this is bad am ...who is afraid of what? laughing
    72. 0
      August 20 2016
      A very sensible idea. I’m glad that the site came to this form and, as can be seen even from its functioning, the back end of the site was clearly redesigned: it began to work much more quickly. The only thing. What I don't like is the scale. Everything is too big or something. Those. You need to scroll a lot to see the full picture. I admit that this is simply out of habit.
      I wonder how many points you need now to become a marshal? tongue
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        The only thing. What I don't like is the scale. Everything is too big or something.

        Ctrl +/- to change the scale
    73. +2
      August 20 2016
      Articles about the economy again without comments?
    74. 0
      August 20 2016
      I like it, I just need to get used to it
    75. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Sanya, pictures and videos are already understandable, so far I have not quite figured out the citation, but this is temporary.

      There is a "More" button under your comment, that's all.
    76. 0
      August 20 2016
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And finally, not a single marshal on the site. Everyone is demoted fellow

      Yes, I have suddenly become younger! Heh, there is something to strive for!
    77. +6
      August 20 2016
      Why did they cut down the area for comments so much, a third of the right is empty air
      and in general it was possible to launch a beta test first (wait until the paths are trodden, and then pave it)
      titles in all this are far from the most important, but the convenience of the site is more important
    78. +1
      August 20 2016
      Even though I was abruptly demoted... from colonel to lieutenant... but in principle, I don’t care about rank, it’s just a bonus... the main thing is communication fellow
      1. +5
        August 20 2016
        But they didn’t demote me in rank!....The nickname apparently worked... fellow ah na ny na ny na ny..)))))
        1. Alf
          0
          August 22 2016
          But they didn’t demote me in rank!

          They will still come for you, so don’t rejoice! laughing A revolution always devours its children.
          When the sane people are devoured, then they will begin to look around their surroundings - who is the weakest link here? Joke.
    79. +2
      August 20 2016
      Quote: 0255
      It’s not a sin to get a couple of minuses from your opponents for your opinion.

      Quite centrally, 0 and -25 are a big difference, even for self-awareness of one’s own wrongness in the eyes of opponents. Yes
    80. +1
      August 20 2016
      Personally, I don’t get used to “new things” very well. Maybe I will... We'll see...
      1. +1
        August 21 2016
        I looked... I didn’t think that everything was so bad... Sheer inconvenience... I’ll die to list, write, and before me there were already a lot of people who spoke out... The site will lose popularity for a hundred pounds, but it was so interesting... Article ten lines, and you’ll read the comments.... It’s a pity... hi
    81. +22
      August 20 2016
      of the significant shortcomings: a) to add a new comment you need to go back to the very top. b) in order to track a new comment or reply, you need to look through literally everything. Time is lost, and as a result the essence of the dialogue. In my opinion, this is the most significant disadvantage, since people gathered here not for marshal ranks, but to discuss news and topics, and for the most part TOP VAR was a large club of like-minded people. And now communication has been made significantly more difficult for like-minded people. The one who came up with this update will be expelled without the right to return.
      1. 0
        August 20 2016
        hmm............I'll check your opinion. The criterion of truth is practice)
      2. +12
        August 20 2016
        Another HUGE minus: when replying to a comment, the reply window overlaps the comment itself and the ability to quote or view the text when replying disappears
        it feels like the programmer was more concerned with external effects rather than ease of use
        I hope this is not even a beta but an alpha test
        1. +1
          August 20 2016
          You can move the window, but still yes
          1. +1
            August 20 2016
            It’s possible, but it’s not convenient, and given the speed of the site it’s generally not.
      3. +27
        August 20 2016
        Moreover, if the minuses are not returned, VO will very quickly turn into KONT - I left Comt literally a month after they abolished the minuses - it became generally unclear what to do with the inadequates and sectarians.
        In fact, the following will happen:

        1. The community on VO from among the “oldies” and adequate ones will sooner or later blacklist the trolls and will not see their comments
        2. but a newcomer coming to the site will receive a very dubious picture, when in the comments to the article there will be an obvious lie pluses, with a minimum number of objections (because the old people who can tear a liar into rags will long ago ban the inadequate ones and others are “off topic”)
        3. In reality, instead of uniting the community, it will become atomized, it will fall apart into naval, air, and other armored cabals, and it will become more difficult to convey interesting information and thoughts to others - freedom for trolls, freedom for the introduction of various “Overton windows” and other neurolinguistic techniques (which is successfully carried out, for example, at the same CONTE).
        1. +2
          August 20 2016
          1000% agree!!! It feels like someone put pressure on the site owners from behind the scenes... I don’t want to think about the worst...
      4. +5
        August 20 2016
        Exactly. Just some kind of provocation.
    82. 0
      August 20 2016
      Unusual, but it turned out beautifully good
      1. +3
        August 20 2016
        There are still problems with convenience, but beauty is relative
        1. +1
          August 20 2016
          I agree, there are not enough amenities
          1. +4
            August 20 2016
            at this speed you may not make it to the conveniences in time