How is the program "1 ha in the Far East"?

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As is known, Russia has a program that aims to attract people to economic activities in the Far East. One of the points of this program looks like a gratuitous issue to everyone in the economic use of one hectare of land in various regions of the Far Eastern Federal District (DFO). The Ministry of the Russian Federation for the Development of the Far East (Ministry of Eastern Development) at one time announced that any person who is registered in the Far Eastern Federal District may apply for the cherished hectare from 1 June. It is worth understanding how the state program mechanisms work after more than 2,5 a month from the beginning of the registration of applications.

How is the program "1 ha in the Far East"?


Briefly about the stages of the program, according to which the land is provided from any form of state or municipal property.

1 June 2016 year - Start applications from the Far East. Moreover, applications of the Ministry of Eastern Development allow to submit within the framework of pre-determined by the department of municipalities of the regions of the Far Eastern Federal District. These municipalities are called pilot for the entire project. Attention is drawn to the fact that the pilot municipalities allowed to “roll in” the project and bring it to a new level.

1 2016 October, the - One of the stages of this new level, namely the start of applications for obtaining plots of up to 1 ha from Far Easterners throughout the DFO.

1 February 2017 year - all citizens of the Russian Federation will be able to submit applications, even if the place of their permanent registration is not a subject of the Federation of the Far Eastern Federal District.

The main requirement from the state to the person who is going to get to 10 thousand square meters. meters of land in the Far East, lies in the fact that within the next five years this person will receive land at the disposal of the state. And if a plot of land during the five-year period is enclosed with a fence, and the entire development is reduced to sticking a stick with the applicant's family coat of arms into the land to receive the plot, then the state will not accept such tricks for the development of land. Development conditions: conducting agricultural activities, living with the management of personal subsidiary farming, running a business from the list of programs, including forest management, hunting management. If within five years it turns out that the recipient of the land in the FEFD does not conduct any economic activity or does not live on the plot, then the land will be taken from him on the basis of the adopted law. In case of development of a site, a person receives the right to rent it for a period of up to 49 years or by the possibility of owning it.

The Ministry of Eastern Development publishes a presentation video about the action of the described program (video ARCHK DV):


As follows from the video, interest in obtaining the Far Eastern hectare was expressed by about 30 million Russians. And how many applications have been submitted to date, and how many hectares in the FEFD have Russian citizens received for real use?

On a specially created site "Nadalniyvostok.rf" it is reported that at the time of preparation of the material applications from the Far East received 2461. And only 92 appeals from 1 Jun were satisfied. Another 71 treatment is at the stage of concluding a contract. At the same time, the total number of lands transferred for use to citizens was 77,36 ha. Even if we assume that each of the applications considered by 71 will be satisfied in the near future by the core services, it turns out that the ability of government agencies to meet the requests of residents of the Far Eastern Federal District to receive a land plot for use is about 6,6%. In other words, 93-94 applications from 100 are “bounced off” 6,6. The question arises: is it possible at this stage to consider the work of the Ministry of Eastern Development to implement the program satisfactory? Well, except that if there is a certain scale on which 100 percent from XNUMX is enough for a satisfactory result ...

However, the Ministry of Development and Development declares that “I am not guilty ...” According to Alexander Galushka, namely he is the head of the department, in fact the unsatisfactory work on the implementation of the program and the law should be considered not the federal authorities, but the local authorities. In late July, the news agency TASS presented an interview with the head of the Ministry of Economic Development, in which he said that regional authorities in the DFO often look for and find reasons for not giving out land plots designated in the program to citizens-applicants.

Alexander Galushka:
We see the ineffectiveness of local authorities, their lack of interest to the citizens of Russia to provide land and, on far-fetched reasons, to introduce certain restrictions in order not to do this. It is absolutely incomprehensible why we begin to hide the land that is free, empty, not mastered for centuries from the citizens of the country. What is this position? It is clearly not state.


Based on such facts, the Permanent Representative of the President in the Far Eastern Federal District, Yury Trutnev, instructed the regional authorities to intensify work on the implementation of the program, including in its information component among the residents of the Far Eastern Federal District. At the same time, it became known that, for example, the authorities of the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia) called on the federal authorities "to approach the implementation of the program more deliberately and to abandon its hasty implementation." As arguments in Yakutia, they said that the program "could strike a blow to the interests of the indigenous population."

Taking into account the fact that almost 3 weeks have passed since the interview with Alexander Galushka and instructions from Yuri Trutnev, and that only 28 people have become owners of the Far Eastern sites, one might think that the Yakut arguments were taken into account by the authorities ... But seriously It turns out that the regional authorities in the Far East live and work according to the principle “God is high, far away from the king” and actually put the program of macro-regional development on the brakes, to put it mildly, blindly watching the directives of Moscow.

This situation calls into question the effectiveness of the program to attract investment in the Far East. In particular, the other day, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed decree, expanding the list of federal targeted programs aimed at supporting the territories of advanced development (TOP). The purpose of this resolution is to increase the number of jobs in the Far Eastern Federal District by about 100 thousand, and also to increase the population of the federal district by 3 million people by 2025 year. Now all attention is paid to how local “princes” will react to this initiative of Moscow, and to whether the federal government has any levers and desire to bring the expediency of work within the framework of state rather than “personal pocket” interests to the “princes”. .
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  1. +32
    August 18 2016
    These "princelings" should be pressed to the nail, or better - to the wall! Moreover, in all regions of the country.
    1. +5
      August 18 2016
      Alexander Galushka:
      We see the ineffectiveness of local authorities, their lack of interest to the citizens of Russia to provide land and, on far-fetched reasons, to introduce certain restrictions in order not to do this. It is absolutely incomprehensible why we begin to hide the land that is free, empty, not mastered for centuries from the citizens of the country. What is this position? It is clearly not state.

      Everything is very simple. Local authorities distributed these lands in their own way, not disinterestedly. And then, all of a sudden, some Medvedev made his decision. Now explain to the land owners what you need to give, at least for the time being, at least for 28 people laughing. And the heat has gone ... I think the former governor of Sakhalin understands what this is about. This is how we live. In Moscow, they assume, but they have it in place. what Farmers will take loans, considerable ones, invest in business, build a business, "people in black" monopolists will come: - "This is our land, the occupier has gone ..." All in business in the Far East laughing
    2. +6
      August 18 2016
      Or maybe all this "rotten" - a relative of Chubais's privatization?
      At one point, the country will wake up, and is Siberia really private property, and even not Russian?
      For some reason, this muddy started, and certainly not for people!
    3. +4
      August 18 2016
      this program is called-the liberation of central Russia from commoners.
    4. +3
      August 18 2016
      By and large, the game of hectares in the Far East is complete bullshit! In order for people to settle there, and not "nouveau riches" and businessmen, the state first needs to build infrastructure (roads, lighting, gas) at points of growth. Who will allow it? Really "United Russia" with its boss - "There is no money and will not be" laughing They will seize land and lease it to the Chinese for 49 years. Or is Chubais not an example?
      1. +5
        August 18 2016
        Quote: siberalt
        By and large, the game of hectares in the Far East is complete garbage!

        Well, my friend, you’re wrong. Even this season you need to make a Moscow-Vladivostok ticket for evenness - 100 thousand rubles and everything will be exactly equal. (Now to Artyomka-50000)
    5. +1
      August 19 2016
      No one needs land there.
      In the same Pskov and Novgorod nectars go for a penny.
  2. +17
    August 18 2016
    regional authorities in the Far East live and work on the principle of “God is high, the king is far away” and they are actually slowing down the program of macro-regional development, to put it mildly, through the fingers watching the directives of Moscow.... So this is exactly what happens .. Why does the official need to fuss, think ... You never know what they’ll come up with in Moscow .. Like they thought up and rolled up .. not in the first ..
    1. +12
      August 18 2016
      Quote: parusnik
      regional authorities in the Far East live and work on the principle of “God is high, the king is far away” and they are actually slowing down the program of macro-regional development, to put it mildly, through the fingers watching the directives of Moscow.... So this is exactly what happens .. Why does the official need to fuss, think ... You never know what they’ll come up with in Moscow .. Like they thought up and rolled up .. not in the first ..

      You don’t have to do this. You can’t manage such territory for 10000 miles from the place of events. You need strong local government and something like a government. This is not separatism. This is real reflection. I talked with the residents of Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg and other regions, something is needed do. Only in time how to manage? There are three hours of difference between Blagoveshchensk and Petropavlovsk. This is the Far Eastern Federal District. And it’s nine hours between Kamchatka and Moscow. So you have to think about how to live on, and not blame the local officials for everything. Putin does not allow these officials to live in peace, he is here more often than at his dacha. I don’t know the reasons, but few people remain here.
      The Far Eastern hectare will not solve the problems.
      1. +1
        August 18 2016
        I don’t want to write a lot, so here is the food for you
        https://www.facebook.com/Svobodanaroda/videos/590042454511169/
        here about the fact that the land is not free cheese, for 6 acres (0,6 hectares) = 9000r per year to pay ...
        https://youtu.be/_S2G6-mC5vo
        here about the fact that people are felled because there is no work = if they create 100 vacancies but with a pay of $ 000 they will become less likely to fall, but they will still be brought down, and only in 1000 $ / month they will stop the turnover.
        and also look for a video on YouTube like "work in Korea" with a filter for a week / month
  3. +9
    August 18 2016
    They wanted the best, but it turns out as always.
    1. +4
      August 18 2016
      Teberii
      We wanted the best, but it turns out as always

      Andrew! hi
      Unfortunately, if you mean the government, then rather "We wanted, as always, but it turned out even better!"
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    3. +3
      August 18 2016
      Quote: Teberii
      They wanted the best, but it turns out as always.

      In Yakutia on an area of ​​3 million square kilometers The population of about 1 million on the nose goes 3 km. with copecks. Moreover, if we take only the indigenous population, then it is 50%. If we take into account the patrimonial hunting grounds and fisheries, then it will be 6 km to the nose, combining which (noses) into family and patrimonial interests, the family’s lands can comprise areas of 100 km or more. Not bad.
      I don’t know how it is in terms of the development of these lands in terms of agricultural development (permafrost), but in terms of the development of fur farms, fur extraction, harvesting of wild plants, animal meat and poultry, the region is promising. But will the new settlers be able to engage in fishing, without knowledge of the area and the very subject of production? The road network is weak, it is pointless to get a hectare at a distance from the road, since each individual will not build his own road. It's Complicated. Here "princelings" cannot strongly influence the weather.
      It is necessary to make sure that the outflow of population from the Far East and the North stops first and the birth rate in these regions is increased, and this is, first and foremost, the development of industrial potential and the creation of basic, rather than rotational, jobs. There will be work and a normal infrastructure - people will reach there.
      1. +1
        August 19 2016
        I think that the authorities of Yakutia simply do not want to reduce the share of Yakuts in the population of the republic. Although, as far as I know, a significant part of the republic is not the historical territory of the Yakut ethnic group. It just became part of the Yakut ASSR in Soviet times, based on the needs of the administration. By the way, in the 20-30s. The Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic occupied an even larger territory compared to the territory of the modern Sakha Republic (Yakutia).
        As far as I know, among a part of the Yakut "elites" the idea is still popular (now, however, they talk less about it) of uniting Yakutia, the Chukotka Okrug and part of the Magadan Region into one super-large constituent entity of the federation.
  4. +4
    August 18 2016
    Everything, as always, the bureaucracy wins! I would be very surprised if out of hundreds of applications, at least forty percent were satisfied! Our bureaucrats will always find something to dig into, and any good deed will be buried by them.
    1. +2
      August 18 2016
      So it is not known where they wanted to get these lands. Maybe by the sea. In Primorye, for a long time, roads to the seashore have been laid everywhere through forests, there are built two-story boat garages (for a boat — first, second — residential) and buildings for future spa residents. It’s just stupid that they make money at holiday-makers, especially without bothering, but why, the sea is nearby, why should we plow the land, milk cows, if you can milk holidaymakers.
  5. +9
    August 18 2016
    Not only is the land allocation program completely populist, not only are authorities not going to provide any support to people who decide to take it, but even land allocation is slowed down! And, most likely, it is hindered by the fact that the local authorities do not get heavier in their pocket from this.
  6. +12
    August 18 2016
    But the Trans-Baikal Territory turned out to be "dangling between" the Far Eastern Federal District and the Siberian Federal District. Moscow remembers him only before the elections, industry, except for gold mining, has died out, agriculture, as it should be, and with the help of the local leadership, is on the verge of extinction. The population is leaving the region. Friends from the south keep their eyes narrowed and interested, and the Kremlin is busy solving international problems.
    1. +3
      August 18 2016
      Yes, it was recently, the impressions are depressing.
    2. 0
      August 18 2016
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      But the Trans-Baikal Territory turned out to be "dangling between" the Far Eastern Federal District and the Siberian Federal District. Moscow remembers him only before the elections,



      Well, how can he not remember ... How is it going with the vast land that wanted to lease the PRC for half a century? After all, Moscow remembered these lands, its idea was ...
  7. +2
    August 18 2016
    In Russia, and in other states, the "development" of land has never been ideal. Cross the road and then you have to look both ways, but here is a whole region. And looking from the couch is not difficult. As the people say ... Moscow was not built right away ...
  8. +38
    August 18 2016
    This program is not just populist, but criminal !!!
    There are almost no peasants on the site, so I’ll speak easier. For the townspeople, 6 acres is a plot of land, and 1 ha seems to them a large land area. This is not true. 1 ha is 100 m per 100 m. At such a shred you will not only not get rich. but you won’t earn.
    A simple question: how to handle such a site? Hands? 5 healthy people can. Less is impossible. What do you think: 5 healthy working people are now busy with something or messing around? Ready to give up your farm and go for 10 thousand miles of jelly slurp? Utopia. Tractor - unprofitable.
    Second question: where to live? The areas are remote, there are no electricity, doctors (there will be injuries with manual heavy daily labor), no gas station. How to refuel the same tractor? Living conditions - as in the case of King Pea: with a splinter, without hot water and the amenities in the yard. Will many be willing? One and a half people - hardly more.
    Third question: communication. Harvested in some strange way. You have to sell it. What to drive if there are no roads, no gas station to refuel them? Will rot or eat all by yourself.
    Total: this program is designed ONLY for one thing - it’s buying up this land for free, because it is not processed (and this point in the program is spelled out very precisely: they are clearly preparing for this, and not for cultivating the land). Large companies will buy up, or rather, select for nothing, which will also receive money (billions are allocated!) From the state for the development of those lands and an order from the Government.
    Here is such a two-way. Do not believe that it will be so? I bet you.
    1. +6
      August 18 2016
      Quote: Bramb
      Do not believe that it will be so?
      In any case, you will rather believe you than our government, which, as if, has one sadness, how to put everything on its people. Our laws are constantly changing, and it is not a fact that the original meaning of the sale of land, for its development by Russian citizens, will not lead to the purchase of land not only by large Russian companies, but also by foreign ones from China. With vouchers, everything was also curly started, which turned out in the end, everyone already knows. Bourgeois and bad traitors will never think about the true good of the common people and Russia itself.
    2. +5
      August 18 2016
      Everything will be that way.
      Any program that was invented in the government is designed for the profit of those in power.
      1. +7
        August 18 2016
        Xmyp
        Any program that was invented in the government is designed for the profit of those in power.

        Life in Russia has become better, people have become richer and happier! .... I do not mean the poor!
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    3. +13
      August 18 2016
      Quote: Bramb
      I bet you.
      I agree on most points, but you can still get out in some situations. A family of 4 receives 4 hectares, and this is enough to establish a farm. 3-4 cows, piglets, poultry - it is enough to feed a family of 4 people. Surplus can be sold, enough money for clothes and materials. But all this implies hard daily work from dawn to dusk. Many will agree to this after a carefree city life?
      According to the article - the topic of Yakutia is not disclosed -
      the authorities of the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia) called on the federal authorities to "take a more thoughtful approach to the implementation of the program and abandon its hasty implementation." As arguments in Yakutia, they said that the program "could strike a blow to the interests of the indigenous population."
      Friends from Yakutia came, they say that there is the unwritten genocide of the Russian population in the nat. principle. Like in the Baltic states, but in Russia. In Chechnya, by the way, too, but there were only one Russian population after the war, and in Yakutia the vast majority. All places in state structures are occupied by the Yakuts on the basis of nepotism. The attitude is appropriate, even for children in schools. But the problem is hushed up. And naturally, high-ranking Yakuts will be unhappy that the topic of a hectare passes by them. hi
      1. +7
        August 18 2016
        it is! our relative went there on a business trip, he told me that at all the enterprises - deputies and chief specialists - Russians, and the director, even if he puts a cross instead of a signature, must be a Yakut - deputy chief accountant - a Russian aunt - it’s all lucky - but chief accountant - Yakut ....


        and here's another - a family of 4 gets 4 hectares if they are all adults - and if the mat, father and 2 boys 12-14 years old - then only 2 hectares! recognized!
      2. +2
        August 18 2016
        Many builders work from Armenia in Yakutia and from their stories I know that the Yakuts drink godlessly and often engage in crime in a tidy state.
      3. 0
        August 19 2016
        Genocide is the physical extermination of large populations. So the terms should be used more carefully. There are regions in Yakutia where there are very few Yakuts and they are in a clear minority.
    4. +6
      August 18 2016
      But what to argue, then! 200% of the truth!
      even in the time of Stolypin, the land in the Far East was given in pillows, for each member of the family, and here is 1 ha.
      we have a plot at the house in the village from the uncle got -20 acres and that’s just to grow potatoes ...
      and if you raise your farm, and not by 1 hectare, but by at least 10 hectares, then before you grow it, you need to know where to take it out and to whom to sell it, otherwise, why should you invest money if they disappear anyway ...
      and without roads and without electricity and out of the blue ... these are not even the times of Stolypin - but slash-and-burn agriculture like the ancient Slavs of the XNUMXth century
      and those at the top thought that the people would break, grab hectares like pies, but the people learned to count and did not believe the bureaucrats ...
      1. 0
        August 18 2016
        and those at the top thought that the people would break, grab hectares like pies, but the people learned to count and did not believe the bureaucrats ...

        So it is calculated not for the people, but for those who have a lot of money, and who already dream of their personal land, not rented.
      2. 0
        August 19 2016
        So now it seems like 1 ha per adult member of the family.
    5. +2
      August 18 2016
      And to organize a collective farm, nea?
      1. +3
        August 18 2016
        rather, a cooperative! but to create a cooperative you need at least 3 people who want to work with start-up capital — bankers will not give money to the beginner, obviously ... the tale about the white bull begins ...
    6. +4
      August 18 2016
      Quote: Bramb
      At such a shred you will not only not get rich. but you won’t earn.

      I agree, 1 hectare of land is the content of one cow.
      Quote: Bramb
      Tractor - unprofitable.

      Here it depends on which tractor.
      Quote: Bramb
      The areas are remote, there are no electricity, doctors (there will be injuries with manual heavy daily labor), no gas station. How to refuel the same tractor?

      For lands no further than five kilometers from settlements, everything is solved, then yes, the question is big.
      Quote: Bramb
      communications. Harvested in some strange way. You have to sell it.
      This question is perhaps the most relevant, without its solution everything is pointless. hi
    7. +3
      August 18 2016
      In my work, I absolutely know that the land in the Russian Federation large companies have long ago bought exactly in the volumes that they considered necessary. Exactly for the reasons that have already been described many times above (roads, light, people, money, etc.) - they they don’t rush to buy land in the Far East, even for free. The plots of any value have long been divided. It’s banal — we can’t build on the administration of almost 1000 hectares of land in total 40 km from Moscow — no one needs fools. businessmen just rush to buy land. The tax on agricultural land is very sickly.
      Another question is if it were the lands of the Kuban, Oryol, Belgorod suburbs ... There would be hype. ADV is not interesting to anyone.
      Zy about the registration - if the site is separated and put on cadastral registration - the registration deadline is no more than 7 days, regardless of any factors. It is longer only if there are obstacles (encumbrance, inconsistency in the documents,) suspension of registration for two months.
      Z.Y. the problem of the Far East is in the absence of human resources. Roads and other things can be built if there are people. But you can’t bring people there ...
      1. -1
        August 18 2016
        they will not rush to buy land in the Far East, even for free
        The Chinese are buying up through dummies.
        1. +2
          August 18 2016
          And what prevented the Chinese from buying them up 10 years ago (through nominees) ???? 5 years ago ???
          Any citizen of the Russian Federation (IP / KFH) right now (and 10 years ago !!!!) can buy agricultural land WITHOUT restrictions !! The only thing that was added last year was no more than 10% of the area’s area. For example, we have 30 hectares per person .Organize 000-2-3 - .. 4 SP no one forbids .....
      2. +3
        August 18 2016
        I will continue
        9/10 VO readers - NEVER!!! DO NOT LIVE IN THE VILLAGE and DO NOT KNOW !! ITS PROBLEMS.
        Shouts higher / lower like "Several million for a house / move, roads to build, tractors, bureaucrats do not give land, oligarchs will buy ..." and the like violently hungover delirium clearly prove this.
        Explain why?
        please - having departed from ANY regional center of the Russian Federation (with the exception of the Kuban, Stavropol and Chernozemye) for 50-100 km (and in some places closer) you will find yourself in a village to which there is a road, there is light / possibly gas, houses of 25 series (Soviet two-quarters rural) in good condition cost a maximum of 50-70 thousand rubles, maybe there is a FAP and a shop where a share of 25-30 hectares (separated and decorated) will be sold to you with great satisfaction for 50-100 thousand (if the land is very good), and the average and for 30 thousand shares you can buy. There are even people who are retired mainly ..
        This is the problem of the current agriculture, the absence of a WORKING population in the village. Everybody in the city earns money. Fools now plow from dawn to dawn. NET. Farmers groan.

        ZY and screams "Let THEY first build a road to my hectare, lead the light, build a city of 300 thousand, and that's THEN !!!! I'll take this hectare !!!" strongly resemble the country 404 with its "Give money" Give !! Give !! "
        Who wants - he does, who does not want - he is looking for an excuse "(c) my father said so when I started to shirk ..
        1. 0
          August 19 2016
          I think that no one has a moral right to condemn those people who do not want to "plow from dawn to dawn" for a penny at the beginning of the 21st century. If a person has settled down normally in the city, as they say, the flag is in his hands. I have also met those who like to work on a rotational basis. They earn money in cities, at construction sites, in guards. They come to the village to rest for two or three weeks. At the same time, they do not want (or cannot) move to the city for good, but they also do not want to work in the countryside. Even if they are offered a salary commensurate with what they receive on watch (often not very high by city standards). And in most cases no one will offer them such earnings in the countryside ...
          I have a feeling that the majority of the remaining villagers, both young and middle-aged in the Non-Black Earth region, do not want to engage in independent farming (peasant) labor, at their own peril and risk.
    8. 0
      August 18 2016
      You can’t say more precisely, in every word the truth. Shake your hand.
  9. +6
    August 18 2016
    In the Primorsky Territory, the Khankaisk District became a pilot project (who does not know, it is located near Lake Khanka).
    People take 1 ha. Who puts the apiary, who is going to dig ponds for fish farming. But the bulk WANTS to take it on the coast of the lake, in order to do business (houses, barbecues, etc.).
    Trutnev Yu. Came up with an initiative to shorten the term for registering a land plot from one month to some days, it is not yet known exactly. Wait and see. Something like that.
    1. 0
      August 18 2016
      Quote: aszzz888
      People take 1 ha. Who passeku puts who the ponds is going to dig under fish farming. But the bulk WANTS to take it on the coast of the lake, in order to do business (houses, barbecues, etc.).



      Hectare (Russian designation: ha; international: ha; from hecto- and ar) - an off-system unit of measurement of area, pSquare square with side 100 m
      1. 0
        August 19 2016
        atalef (9) IL Yesterday, 19:30 p.m. ↑ New
        Quote: aszzz888
        People take 1 ha. Who puts the apiary, who is going to dig ponds for fish farming. But the bulk WANTS to take it on the coast of the lake, in order to do business (houses, barbecues, etc.).

        ??
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  11. +17
    August 18 2016
    In my opinion, this is another scam.
    There was privatization, then a mortgage, now a hectare.
    What is a hectare? - for housing - a lot for the economy is not enough.
    And when you consider that where they allocate very often there are not even access roads.
    Calculate how much you need.
    1. Driveways
    2. Water supply
    3. Sewage treatment
    4. Processing (peeling, plowing and so on)
    5. Build materials
    6. Lighting
    7 and more
    Moreover, strictly set deadlines, after which they can be picked up if they didn’t do anything (as an orphan)

    It is clear if 10 people get together and the "collective farm" is organized, then they will earn for bread.
    Why is all this - another bred!

    Only the law has a continuation, they single out what they give, and not what you want. And after a certain period of time, "unclaimed" (remaining after the "distribution" of the land) can already be acquired by persons from other regions .... Who wins? Definitely not the Far East. And those who take the "unclaimed" and partially cultivated, (withdrawn) land.
    Again, the state has the right (land law) to seize land in case of state need.

    It turns out that the soldier Sokolov (x \ f "Destiny") was right when he said that even 2 cubic meters would be enough for him. This is the one that will not be taken away. Although this is questionable.
  12. +6
    August 18 2016
    All this crap with the distribution of land will end with the squeezing by large companies of land from the owners of these miserable hectares, how to give a drink ...
    What forestry and hunting arenas on an area of ​​1 hectare, well, maybe by the number of relatives 10 hectares? What do you take from this?
  13. +14
    August 18 2016
    Well, and the most significant moment, which shows that this whole program is bullshit.
    How much land is allocated? 140 million hectares. How many people in our country? 140 million. Those. Is it assumed that each Russian will take 1 hectare, including the elderly and children, the President and the Prime Minister, football players and scientists? )))))
    It is clear that 99% of these lands will remain unclaimed and will simply need to be given to someone. It was this "someone" who muddied this whole program. For yourself. And not for the sake of some kind of development.
    As if these lands did not go abroad, which is very likely (the owners of the Russian company may be foreigners, or sell the shares to them after). Therefore, this program is CRIMINAL and no other way !!!
  14. +8
    August 18 2016
    We just forgot that we used to be Russians, and lived on our land!
    And now we are persons of undetermined nationality living in Russia with Russian citizenship. (judging by passport data)
    Yes, we have privatized apartments, our own cottages, but ....: Sea, Land, Subsoil, Resources, everything belongs to the state.
  15. +10
    August 18 2016
    On March 1, 2015, they amended the RF Land Code (Putin gave a kick in 2014) that land can be taken for free, for free, for use, and then to property throughout Russia. in the forest, the current legislation strictly defines the norms that are approved by local authorities: For the construction of a house, usually 150 m3 of forest is allocated once every 25 years. 50 cubic meters are allocated for home repairs every five years. Fuel can be allocated 10-15 cubic meters once a year.
    so that any citizen has the right to land, but after choosing a site and writing an application for this site, catastrophe begins - the land for agricultural purposes, then already encumbered by someone, then someone else’s property, then it is necessary to conduct a tender, auction ... Here WHERE THE CONTROL IS REQUIRED by the prosecutor's office and the public chamber.
    Why do cottage towns grow, where weaving of land from half a mult or more? I'm glad that someone has money, but not everyone ... someone will not receive money ... therefore, scrolling in one place .... connections solve everything ...
    Now we are talking about patrimonial estates: once for every citizen of the Russian Federation for life use with the right to transfer by inheritance, without the right to sell, arrest, seize and pledge in any form, to create conditions for normal living on it and to provide everything necessary for his family, children and fix it by amending the Constitution forever. The earth and everything that is created and grown on it for its consumption is not subject to any taxes - this is the place of residence, the existence of man, given him the right by God from birth, as well as the right to breathe.
    If such a presidential decree appears, then Russia will flourish. My personal opinion. hi
  16. +10
    August 18 2016
    There is no doubt that the project was populist and adventurous from the very beginning. Who doubts, think: for land development in 1 hectares you need funds, a start-up capital of more than one million rubles (a house, equipment, construction, any road, electricity, firewood, etc.). What middle-aged man will rush to master the land without starting capital, and where to get it? It’s right in the bank, but you have to give it back in the first 5 years, otherwise, if you don’t have time to turn around, the zemlyan will be taken away and you will be in bondage for life. They sang, they sang at the top, they didn’t back up the money - lifting, roads, electricity, infrastructure were dumped on the region, and there a dime a dozen of their problems. I will not be surprised if tomorrow Medvedev, once again spreading his hands, says that they did everything, but our people are lazy.
  17. +3
    August 18 2016
    Quote: parusnik
    “God is high, far from the king

    Yes, cool! - they distributed ash 77 hectares, and only to the local ones. Try to get football from Europe first and foremost. I think we will be witnesses of the next failure of the Law. There is no Stolypin’s government there! No. hi
  18. +7
    August 18 2016
    Oh!!! A delusional program, but someone will launder money not measured! Take Sakhalin, the land was allocated in such an area where it’s not comme il faut to get there, I won’t talk about infrastructure at all. It’s worth going to Sugar (a local forum) and reading reviews and opinions, it will immediately become clear that with this approach, the land is completely in vain and is not needed. I do not think that in other regions of the Far East the situation is better, most likely the land where to lay communications on the cost of the bridge to the Crimea will also be located somewhere on the outskirts
  19. +3
    August 18 2016
    Friends, well, you immediately lost everything. At the first stage, the land is really only given to the local. The rest from next year, welcome. By the way, 1 ha per each family member. A local princes should be pressed, it is necessary.
  20. +15
    August 18 2016
    Our rulers, as usual, once again wanted nichrome without doing and not spending a penny "on someone else's hump to enter paradise." Developing the Far East and Siberia? "Yes, not a question!" - let's throw the cry "Ivan the Fool" like we will give you a piece of land without roads and communications and you will master everything there for your own money: you will raise the land, you will build the roads yourself and you will carry out communications along with other necessary infrastructure and Then the coveted denyuzhki from your Ivan will flow to us - in the form of taxes, fines, fees for "rent" and "use", etc. - everything is as we wanted, everything is like in the "blue dream" of the unforgettable Leni Golubkov : "Ivan is plowing, hunching back, and we are lying down, and the denyuzhki are coming." No, gentlemen, rulers, there are no fools for this, your next scam. But what was easier: in the "fat" years, when the "bank bins" of Russia were bursting with petrodollars, it was necessary to build roads, electricity, gas supply and build other infrastructure to Siberia and the Eastern regions of Russia, equip sites for new cities and towns, etc. And then the people, indeed, would have been interested in the "Far Eastern hectare", but our "smart guys" in the government, instead, invested this money in bursting American banks, losing tens, if not hundreds of billions of dollars, and pissed them off in empty merrymaking such as "championships", "Olympics", in PR gatherings such as "summits" and so on. And those that remained stuck away, investing in "US debt obligations" with a maturity in the long term. "Far Eastern hectare" for the people ", you say, well, well ...
  21. +13
    August 18 2016
    I live in Khabarovsk. There is no desire to take this hectare, neither I nor my many acquaintances, because there is no way to contain and process it (this hectare). First you need to invest a lot of money, but NO MONEY. For some reason, the gentlemen from the center have an opinion that people in the Far East live very well and they have very high salaries (Far East coefficient, district coefficient), they can take loans and develop land. And we, the Far East, with joy and hooting will rush to choose our land for farmland. The land was taken mainly by beekeepers (God grant them strength and health).
  22. +6
    August 18 2016
    At the beginning of the 20th century, the tsarist government not only stupidly allocated plots, but also supported materially immigrants. And the people traveled from all three Russia.
  23. +8
    August 18 2016
    It was ridiculous from the very beginning that the fact that everything would fail as usual was immediately clear.
    To make ends meet, the peasant farm needed 15 acres of land (16.4 hectares). In fact, each of the 12 million poorest peasant households accounted for 7 acres (7.6 ha).

    Naturally, local bosses want to rake in the best land for themselves, registering for numerous relatives and dummies. Then the demand of the "necessary" people will be satisfied. Then, various "disagreements" will propose to just anyone and report that "people do not want to go", the program is closed, they are waiting for the next one.
  24. +9
    August 18 2016
    All the same, the state will somehow deceive the farmers. New capitalism ...
  25. +6
    August 18 2016
    Before solving the Far Eastern Hectare program, it is necessary to solve the problem of the outflow of the population from the Far East. The monetary, educated, active part of the population leaves the Far East because there are no prospects due to isolation from the Western regions of Russia. And who needs this hectare: he needs to invest a lot of money and they give it to the devil on the small streets where there are no communications or even expensive.
  26. +4
    August 18 2016
    100 km from Moscow is full of empty hectares of land on which only weeds grow. But they will not be given to anyone for cultivation, it is better to grow further.
  27. 0
    August 18 2016
    It is necessary to bring hungry and evil wolves and bears to these lands, so that they throw themselves, and sow the rest with hogweed, nettle and hemp. And see how the situation will develop
  28. -5
    August 18 2016
    Here the whiners give you land for free, and you vote! For five years, you can leave the entire Far East without trees, if you really want to, lighting if you did not know, there are a lot of generator options "and any current city was founded without any modern technologies"! So whine less! Yes, I agree that this program is very costly to the beggars, a thing of the past if each of the treasury is given a million, then there will be a default in the country! That's what the State Duma counted on so that not everyone could ask for a piece of land!
    1. +5
      August 18 2016
      Russian cold, you're wrong. It is not only costly, it is too heavy. A beggar must find money for 1) to move himself or his family with a belongings 2) The minimum tools for building and cultivating land 3) to survive in the winter and not one, because where will he live? Where and how to buy and store equipment? Or plow plow? So the horse also needs to be kept somewhere ...
      1. 0
        August 18 2016
        It will take a very long time to discuss, many will not even be given a loan! Issuance of land plots only for "golden kids"! In 5-8 years, the entire Far East will be strewn with cottages !!!
    2. +4
      August 18 2016
      Apparently you are not a beggar with us. So forward 3,14 blow, master. Let's see what remains of you after the first winter in the taiga. Expert couch, urea putreot roll
      1. -1
        August 18 2016
        Learn the Russian language!
  29. +11
    August 18 2016
    Actually, this is a mockery of people ... Deputies, officials, the President -you first create conditions for a normal life for people in their place of residence, and do not expel them in a pure field away.
    To raise this land, it is necessary to have all communications and lay normal access roads to these areas. I can't imagine how this can be done to people who receive 30-50 thousand rubles. per month. In addition, to process 1 hectare and 6-15 acres are different things. In this case, you can't do anything with the pens. The equipment is expensive, fuel and lubricants "pleases" with its stable growing price (despite the rise / fall of oil). Bank loans are offered at "ridiculous interest" - once you took it and you're all a galley slave and your children too.
    Jobs for wives and adult children who will give in the field? Learning how will it be carried out (if the school is 50-100 km)?
    Who will go there? Engineers or factory workers? Single mothers? Poor or large families?
    And now let's remember about subsidies for the North Caucasus. Why is the President and the Government of Russia taking such care of them? Maybe this is because they are future residents of Russia? Maybe this is because it is unpleasant for them to realize who lives in the same cities with them?
    1. +6
      August 18 2016
      You are absolutely right, especially regarding roads and communications. I don’t understand at all which wise guy prescribed 5 years for development - it’s unrealistic even in a relatively habitable place, where a kilometer or two from your new sections have power lines and / or gas. We are not talking about a summer house ... On our example, 180 km from Moscow, while the field is clean, but there are gas and wires nearby, the construction is planned for 7-10 years, well, it’s faster, it’s not just about money, there are a lot of problems with accessibility and other things ... Overhaul of a three-year-old can last for a couple of years if there is no bag of money, and here in 5 years a construction in the wild taiga, yeah).
      Then, what kind of economic activity is there (in the Far East) of the types of activity is a very limited set and who will be the consumer is not completely clear, respectively, it is impossible to talk about any meaningful investment of money. In general, this is some kind of gamble with a double bottom or another divorce.
      1. +1
        August 19 2016
        The same shnyaga, as well as plant the whole country with corn.
        In fact, the idea is perverted. It should be like this: The right of a Russian citizen to a plot of land calculated according to the formula, where 146 519 759 people-population divided by the area of ​​Russia 17 125 191 square kilometers.
        The introduction of some reduction factors is possible. But in the end it will still not be 1 hectare. And the land must be given the opportunity to choose. If, for example, the land is located "in the hearth of civilization", then its size should be significantly smaller than "in the ass of the world." That is, different areas should have their own coefficient. If you want land in the Central Federal District, you will get 30-60 acres, if you want in Siberia, you will get 10-30 hectares. And leave the land in the ownership of families, regardless of whether it is cultivated or not.
        Then, indeed, the people of Russia will become its master.
        The problem is only in the Abramovichs, Sechins, Deripaska, Potanins and the like ...
  30. 0
    August 18 2016
    Far Eastern Kanabis not growing on those hectares?
  31. +9
    August 18 2016
    Ha ha ha. Are there really those who seriously believed that they will receive this hectare ????? The current kidalovskaya authorities are not able to allocate even 20 acres to the veterans of the database, which by the way are supposed to them according to the Federal Law "On Veterans"
    Another scam from Vovka with dimka
    1. +2
      August 18 2016
      Unfortunately I have to agree ... it is. And the point is not even in the "princelings", but, I think, in the lack of desire, if any, among those who initiated this program, to exercise real effective control over its implementation. Most likely - the "program", like many other "good intentions" beforehand, will be "successfully" failed and, after the change of various Kremlin managers, is consigned to oblivion.
  32. +3
    August 18 2016
    Is growing. From the first harvest - moving 5 years to full state. security. And what? Also an option.
  33. +1
    August 18 2016
    The Chinese with Russian citizenship to help them, but better without citizenship. What does our government in the Far East need to boost the economy or increase the population of only which population.
  34. +5
    August 18 2016
    I think that nobody planned there, that ordinary people would break there. The calculation is done on gentlemen with money. The authorities are somehow easier to negotiate with. On one wave they think and act.
  35. +4
    August 18 2016
    By the way, judging by the forums, there are already "enterprising individuals" who are looking for homeless people with passports in order to register a "Far Eastern hectare" for them, then to summarize these hectares and cut down the forest there, take it out and sell it, and substitute these homeless people under the "showdown" ...
  36. +1
    August 18 2016
    And what, is not a filthy broom? It is necessary to give land to business people for free in Siberia. Should dope ever end? So much free land, expanse! Nobody lives, nobody cultivated! Is this not a waste of the country's resources! Authorities live like a dog in the manger. Does the country need such power? No, I categorically do not need it, and it is here that the filthy broom is needed, to clean the country from idiots-managers.
  37. +2
    August 18 2016
    "The main requirement from the state to a person who is going to receive up to 10 thousand square meters of land in the Far East is that within the next five years this person will master the land received at the disposal of the state. Moreover, if the plot of land within five years will be surrounded by a fence, and all development will be reduced to sticking a stick with the applicant's family coat of arms into the ground to receive a plot, then the state is not going to take such tricks for land development at face value. Development conditions: agricultural activities, living with personal subsidiary farming , doing business from the list of the program, including forestry, hunting. If within five years it turns out that the recipient of the land in the Far Eastern Federal District does not carry out any economic activity or does not live on the site, then the land will be taken from him on the basis of the adopted law"...

    Knowing ... nonsense ... I'm sorry ...

    For a long time there has been a law "On the turnover of agricultural land", and since 2006 (it seems) a new Land Code, which clearly defines the procedure for handling such lands (well, just as they try to describe in relation to the Far Eastern District) ... So here and give birth to an extra the law was useless, if only you did not designate your bureaucratic activities ...

    And now - the most interesting ... In violation of land legislation, only in our area there are privately owned masses of first-class agricultural land on which absolutely no agricultural activity has been carried out by its owners (more than 5 years, of course), BUT (!! !) land, in accordance with the law - is not alienated ...

    It's just that the land serves as the owner's contribution to the property, serves as a kind of "passive asset", if this is how you can rock ...
    1. +1
      August 18 2016
      weksha50
      3 nuances to your post:
      1) ZK adopted in 2001
      2) for ЗК and 101-ФЗ the term of non-use is3 years, therefore, for the Far East laid a longer term, taking into account the need for development
      3)"not maintained (more than 5 years, of course), BUT (!!!) land, in accordance with the law - is not alienated ..."- the main problem and headache in the use of agricultural land is as follows. There are now only 2-3 hundreds of legal entities engaged in agriculture (agroholdings of all stripes) across the country. , the responsibility is less well, and a number of fat pluses). The main thing at the moment, 294-FZ explicitly forbade the inclusion of small businesses in inspection plans (with a profit of up to 400 million and less than 15 people) - naturally, it is impossible to carry out inspections on individual entrepreneurs throughout the country ( well, they don’t have such income, they don’t ...). And if you also take into account that you can check it once every 3 years, and they will be liquidated in 2,5, then you can no longer check them at all ..
      At the moment, the alienation process (sooooo dreary !!!) can be started only AFTER the check, and as I wrote above, it CANNOT be carried out. Expert work to determine the signs of non-use (PP from 2012) costs money, which naturally is not in the budget. If the land is not known to be arable (as they wrote earlier), simply in the certificate of "agricultural land", the owner can always draw a lease with the locals for grazing, or write simply - "haymaking". But that's not all. The owners usually pay taxes, and if to carry out the seizure procedure, the local administration remains in this case with a piece of land that is not needed by ANYONE and WITHOUT taxes ...
      Therefore, municipal administrations are practically not trying to fight this ..

      While writing, I saw your post below
      "Here to sell the land for money, put it in your pocket and in the future absolutely do not care about its (land) future fate - yes, this is according to bureaucratic ..." - on the contrary, it is more profitable for local princelings to distribute as much as possible (no one is buying it will be, unless the South and the Moscow region) land, because taxes come only from lands that have owners.
  38. +3
    August 18 2016
    Parents in the Kostroma region after the collective farm "Leninsky Put" ordered to live a long time as a share in the ownership of 30 hectares of land. In the center of Russia, they don't fucking need anyone. So at 30 you can do something, if you want. And on 1 hectare there is a football field for Chinese footballers.
  39. 0
    August 18 2016
    "We see inefficiency of local authorities, their disinterest Russian citizens provide land and, on far-fetched grounds, introduce certain restrictions in order not to do this. It is absolutely incomprehensible why we begin to hide from the citizens of the country that land that is free, that is empty, has not been mastered for centuries. What is this position? It is clearly not state-owned "...

    I completely agree with this conclusion ...

    No matter how negatively I relate to the lady and his ministers, however, I agree that the local "appanage princelings" are absolutely unprofitable for free to give land to people, and even to people who in the future will be able, through their work on this land, to prove the inferiority and worthlessness of the management of municipal entities and their resources by these princes ...

    Here sell land for money, put it in your pocket and in the future absolutely do not care about its (land) future fate - yes, this is according to bureaucrats ...
  40. 0
    August 18 2016
    The fact that young people express a desire is understandable, and young and ambitious people believe in the future without knowing the details.
    And what money to rent this hectare if a person lives there? It is either necessary money to have small initially, or to sell housing in the Ural Federal District and not the fact that there is enough money for normal development. Those. to build a summer house there for himself, hens, keep a cow, engage in agriculture, but it will also fail to leave for the winter. In almost any case, they’ll take it away. Again deceived, we diverge.
  41. +1
    August 18 2016
    Here in the Kaliningrad region you do not know what to do, not just with one, but with 12 GA. And in the Far East, even more so, it is a chimera. Another crazy idea to fill the information vacuum.
  42. 0
    August 18 2016
    Trutnev and Galushko run into a liquid hectare. Now all the effort and money will be thrown to justify. The only sensible thing they said over the year was about equalizing energy tariffs. The rest is nonsense.
  43. 0
    August 18 2016
    Oh, it would be nice to have a few hectares of clear taiga, but to harvest wood grouse to grow mushrooms, roe deer :) all this nonsense, look at the geography. "Places" where the prince gives land, I do not need there for nothing ...
  44. Gor
    0
    August 19 2016
    Bullshit is everything. They give a hectare in an area where you can only come by SUV, most of the road is gravel. The infrastructure is zero - there is no light, water and sewage, too, but even there is simply no road. For agriculture and cattle breeding, the area is also risky. A reasonable question arises, so why is it needed at all, such a hectare. Nearby there are two areas where the program would be a great success. But apparently the land is there for others and for other people.
    P.S. Kamchatka Krai
  45. 0
    August 22 2016
    kit_bellew,
    And what is it impossible to grow vegetables there or what? Cucumbers, tomatoes, potatoes? Keep pigs for meat? Maybe I just don’t understand what? You can’t do this on a hectare?

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