In the ranking of universities, the University of Tartu was marked with the flag of the Estonian SSR

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In Estonia, the reason for national pride turned out to be clearly clouded by the “zrad” in Baltic style. So, for the first time in all history In an independent Estonian university, the University of Tartu was ranked among the top 500 in the international ranking of universities (Academic Ranking of World Universities), being in the honorary for Estonia of the last hundred rankings. And “Zrada” is that the compilers of university rankings opposite the name of the Baltic university have placed the flag of the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic.

In the ranking of universities, the University of Tartu was marked with the flag of the Estonian SSR


Joy on Estonian street gave way to obvious concern, since the Soviet symbols in this Baltic republic are officially banned, and those who use it face criminal prosecution under Estonian law. Representatives of the official Tallinn appealed to the compilers of the university rankings, and the Estonian flag was “de-communized” in the list, placing a white-black-blue flag of the modern Estonian state in the ranking.



If we talk about the best of Russian universities in this ratingthen it is Moscow State University, which entered the first hundred and took the place of 87. According to the compilers of the world's universities, Moscow State University is inferior to such universities as McMaster University in Canada or the University of Queensland in Australia ... The first three positions are given to universities from the USA: Harvard, Stanford and Berkeley.
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  1. +4
    August 16 2016
    Eeee

    Is it possible to clarify.

    Where is this university after the remaining 500?

    I'm very interested. Maybe he will come first?
    1. +14
      August 16 2016
      The first three positions are given to universities from the USA: Harvard, Stanford and Berkeley.
      They give victory by inertia. The branded brand.
      1. +9
        August 16 2016
        A bit wrong. The rating of universities is greatly influenced by two things - the number of scientific publications in the WESTERN SCIENTIFIC PRESS and, let’s say so, the historically accumulated rating of a university. Naturally, in the American scientific press, American scientists print most of all. Plus, the most famous western universities receive a serious prestige ball. Thp is still not an indicator. But the fact that our universities are little printed in the Western press sharply reduces their score. request
        PM 87 LOCATION DOESN’T NATURALLY SHOW THE REAL LEVEL, BUT THAT OUR HIGHER EDUCATION NEEDS A SERIOUS CLEANING OF DOUBTS DOESN'T. Too many swampy departments, which consume resources, but do not produce the result in the form of scientific knowledge and research. If 10 scientists give the same result as the other 1000, then maybe you should not keep that thousand, but you need to find another 10 such as the first and saved money to give them for research? In general, the reform of universities will be unambiguous, and there will also be a cleansing of the scientific staff, and the cries of those dismissed that Russian science has held onto them will also be. The same thing has already happened with the army. hi
        1. +7
          August 16 2016
          The rating of universities is greatly influenced by two things - the number of scientific publications IN THE WESTERN SCIENTIFIC PRESS and ...

          Here are just some publications? Well, there they print every kind of h.r.e., such as the effect of the flushing of feces on the light of a polar star. And for this - points !!!
          1. +2
            August 16 2016
            Therefore, they hunt for our scientists and graduates from our so-called unrated universities ...
        2. +1
          August 16 2016
          If 10 scientists give the same result as the other 1000, then maybe you should not keep that thousand, but you need to find another 10 such as the first and saved money to give them for research?


          I do not quite understand the moment of the method that you are proposing. That is, if, for example, the Department of Molecular Physiology of Moscow State University does not give scientific material to the mountain, then it must be closed? Do you even understand that the name of an educational institution determines, first of all, study. And they learned a person, a priori a potential engine of discipline, which he studied.
          1. 0
            August 16 2016
            If the department you mentioned does not yield results according to your statements, then it makes sense to check - why are they pearing around there? And where does the money allocated for research go? Maybe there’s a couple of people moving, and the rest are kicking the bastard and mastering finances? Decent money is being allocated to science, which means that the state wants to receive a certain amount of scientific results. This refers to money allocated for scientific, not teaching. hi
            1. +3
              August 16 2016
              Decent money allocated to science


              So what? There are two articles of financing, on applied research and on fundamental. How do you assess the quality of basic research, if the baggage of this knowledge has been accumulating for centuries, and they may not have any applied value at all. Put scientists on cost accounting? Brain Conversion? Or assign each day to additionally work out at unloading cars or cleaning streets?

              By the way, the money allocated in Russia for basic research is several times less than in India.
      2. 0
        August 16 2016
        The rating evaluates universities by the following indicators: activity and quality of research activities, employers' opinions and career potential, teaching and internationalization. These indicators cover the key strategic missions of universities of world significance for which they are responsible to the participants in the process: the academic community, employers, students and their parents. Annually, the study evaluates over 2,5 thousand higher education institutions around the world. Based on its results, a ranking of the 500 best universities in the world is compiled, as well as university ratings in individual disciplines.

        The level of university achievement is assessed on the basis of a combination of statistical analysis of educational institutions, audited data (including information on citation index from the Scopus database, the world's largest bibliometric database of scientific publications), as well as data from a global expert survey of representatives of the international academic community and employers, who express their opinions about universities. The following are quantitative and qualitative indicators by which universities are evaluated.

        The compilers of the rating emphasize that the volatility of the TOP 100 universities in QS World University Rankings is noticeably lower than in most other similar ratings, which reflects the maturity and reliability of the methodology used. QS is a member of the Observatory on Academic Ranking and Excellence (IREG), the regulatory body for organizations ranking higher education institutions. The authors of the project indicate that the QS research team works as objectively as possible, all the data and the rating methodology are available for external audit.
      3. +1
        August 16 2016
        Well, if their science gave the world a helicopter, a television, a radio, a rocket, a semiconductor group, a computer, a periodic table, and hell knows what else. We need to figure out where the minds of Google and Microsoft were. only not everyone in their native land embodied their ideas. 50% of modern medicine in all areas. this is tsarist, soviet and present-day Russia. education can be defined in different ways. Yes
      4. 0
        August 16 2016
        Quote: Wend

        The first three positions are given to universities from the USA: Harvard, Stanford and Berkeley.
        ---------
        They give victory by inertia. The branded brand.


        Let's be honest to the end. Universes ... in which your desk partner will lay for cheating on exams. Do not la la, extra class universities. There is not enough MIT on the heap.
      5. +3
        August 16 2016
        They give victory by inertia.


        Well, what are you like:

        ARWU is determined on the basis of six objective indicators, including the number of graduates and employees awarded the Nobel or Fields Prize, the number of highly cited researchers, the number of articles published in Nature and Science journals, the number of articles indexed in ScienceCitationIndex - Expanded and SocialSciencesCitationIndex, and productivity university per capita.

        The question is how this rating affects the development of civilization. And what to determine as such development. And the rest, everything is correct. With a Berkeley diploma, getting a job with an income of $ 50 a year is easy. Well, consider how many graduates of Moscow State University can get one ....
      6. +1
        August 16 2016
        Most likely, the compilers of the ranking of universities themselves from the United States hi
    2. +1
      August 16 2016
      So, for the first time in the history of independent Estonia, the University of Tartu in the international ranking of universities (Academic Ranking of World Universities) was among the top 500, being in the last hundred ranking honorary for Estonia.


      The article is not true. University in Tartu regularly falls into this rating. It is considered the most prestigious in the country. In Tartu itself, one in ten residents is a student.
      1. 0
        August 16 2016
        http://www.shanghairanking.com/ru/ARWU2015.html#

        The article is not true. University in Tartu regularly falls into this rating.


        Well, where does he get there? Speak every tenth student, and in my yard, every second, a dove. But this does not mean that I live in a dovecote ....
    3. 0
      August 17 2016
      Quote: gladcu2
      Eeee

      Is it possible to clarify.

      Where is this university after the remaining 500?

      I'm very interested. Maybe he will come first?

      In the USSR, this university almost stood at the level of Moscow State University and Bauman. Estonians dreamed of getting there for happiness.
      one of the oldest universities in the USSR, dates back to 1632, when Academia Gustaviana was founded in Tartu, which operated intermittently until 1710; reopened in 1802 under the name Derpt, from 1893 in connection with the renaming of the city - Yuryevsky, after 1918 - Tartu. In 1828 - 1839 under T. at. The Professorial Institute worked, which trained professors for Russian universities. With T. at. the activities of such scientists as astronomer V. Ya. Struve, botanists K. Kh. Ledebur, E. F. Russov, N. I. Kuznetsov, biologists K. M. Baer, ​​H. I. Pander, A. N. Severtsov , physiologists F. G. Bidder, F. V. Ovsyannikov, geologist F. Yu. Levinson-Lessing, pharmacist G. L. Dragendorf, chemists K. G. Schmidt, G. I. Hess, K. E. Klaus, G. G. Tamman, I. L. Kondakov, V. G. Ostwald, L. V. Pisarzhevsky, P. N. Kogerman, physicists G. F. Parrot, E. Kh. Lenz, B. S. Jacobi, B. B. Golitsyn, I. Ya. Willip, surgeons N.I. Pirogov, N.N. Burdenko, L.M. Puusep, founder of the doctrine of vitamins N.I. Lunin, mathematicians M.I. Bartels, G.V. Count Owls Leibenzon, linguists FI Wiedemann, MP Veske, IA Baudouin de Courtenay, YM Endzelin, JW G. Veski, historians I. F. G. Evers, E. V. Tarle, jurist V. E. Grabar, and many others. The university was attended by famous literary scholars V. A. Desnitsky, N. K. Piksanov, and figures of Estonian culture R. Felman, F. R. Kreutzwald, A. Tammsaare, A. Jacobson, Armenian enlightener H. Abovyan, Latvian, progressive figures K. Baron, K. Waldemar, E. Weidenbaum, F. Rozin, Lithuanian revolutionary K. Pozela , brother of V.I. Lenin - D.I. Ulyanov. In 1918, at the base of the military unit evacuated to Voronezh. (then Yuryev University) Voronezh University was created; in 1946 on the basis of divisions T. at. - A number of research institutes of the Academy of Sciences of the Estonian SSR, in 1951 - Estonian agricultural academy.
      As part of T. at. (1975): faculties - biological, geographical, historical, mathematical, medical, physical and chemical, philological, economic, legal, physical education, 2 faculty for advanced training of specialists; correspondence department, graduate school, 76 departments, research sector, computer center. 14 problem and industry laboratories, a botanical garden, 3 museums; the library has over 3 million tons. In the 1975/76 academic year, about 6,5 thousand students studied, 900 teachers and researchers worked, including 10 academicians and corresponding members of the Academy of Sciences of the Estonian SSR and the Academy of Medical Sciences and the USSR Academy of Medical Sciences, 74 professors and doctors of sciences, more than 350 associate professors and candidates sciences. The Scientific Notes are published (since 1893) and a number of branch collections of scientific works, including The Scandinavian Collection (since 1956), Soviet Pedagogy and School (since 1968). In 1945–75 over 18 thousand specialists were trained. He was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor (1967).
  2. +8
    August 16 2016
    A great reason to go to the city ... but in the next fit of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian hysteria.
  3. 0
    August 16 2016
    Who makes the rating determines that place.
  4. +2
    August 16 2016
    Strange-Estonians very quickly noticed the Soviet flag opposite Tartu! These are wrong Estonians, and they should have seen the flag no earlier than New Year's snow fool By the way, in the next news from Europe, Estonia will be called the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic !!!
    1. 0
      August 16 2016
      Hot Estonian guys noticed that they are still in the Soviet Republic?
  5. avt
    +4
    August 16 2016
    All in all, Putin only appointed the former first secretary of the Estonian SSR as head of the grandson’s administration bully And such an effect! The question arises just like according to Hasek in "The Brave Soldier Schweik"
    "You are afraid, coward, for your trunk, but what are you going to do when the heavy artillery speaks?"
    1. -1
      August 16 2016
      Quote: avt
      All in all, Putin only appointed the former First Secretary of the Estonian SSR as head of the grandson’s administration bully And such an effect!

      lol And GDP not only made this appointment laughing

      haha
      1. 0
        August 16 2016
        Something my pictures from comments disappear feel
  6. PKK
    +4
    August 16 2016
    That which was under the flag of the Estonian SSR was valued and had a career, but nobody needs a new flag.
  7. 0
    August 16 2016
    The stump is clear that without the Union they might not have this joy.
  8. +4
    August 16 2016
    Very "valuable" message for VO. fellow
    1. 0
      August 16 2016
      That's it! I will definitely not go to the World Symposium "On the Greatness of Estonian Education in the Conditions of Continuous Aggression of Russia" ...! drinks
  9. +9
    August 16 2016
    teacher:
    -Children that sympathize with the colors of the flag of our great Estonia?
    petrus:
    -blue symbolizes our sky, which is polluted by Russians.
    ilse:
    -black symbolizes our fertile land, which the Russians are messing up.
    little thing:
    and white symbolizes the Siberian snows that you will go to clean the whole class
  10. +1
    August 16 2016
    The past cannot be returned, but how can it be turned out! Estonians are experts in this eversion part! Hatred is in their blood.
    Someone goes down in history, but Estonians are stuck :))
  11. +1
    August 16 2016
    I would like to ask a question to the author and administrators: "So what?"
  12. +3
    August 16 2016
    Moscow State. University divided 87th place
    with ... our Jewish University in Jerusalem.

    Have a chat! drinks

    Our Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
    the Chinese awarded 69th place.
    1. 0
      August 16 2016
      Our Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
      the Chinese awarded 69th place.


      Jerusalem on the 67th. smile

      So they are the University of Hong Kong in 173 place .... but that is not the point. The assessment technique is fully consistent with the Anglo-Saxon world. And this estimate is fair. A world of Asia or the East will be formed, whatever you call it, there will be its own assessment, there will be competition. In the meantime, one gate.
  13. +3
    August 16 2016
    By the way, everyone will be interested in what the first 25 places look like.
    For those who think that the US is degrading, it will probably be unpleasant
    see it ...
    1. +4
      August 16 2016
      It is interesting to watch those who think that these ratings are worth reading at least.
    2. -1
      August 16 2016
      Do you believe that? So your education is also at its peak.
    3. 0
      August 16 2016
      For those who think that the US is degrading, it will probably be unpleasant
      to see it.


      It depends on what area ...
      In technology, I would put MIT first.

      Harvard is Zhirinovsky’s estate (son is a lawyer, father is a lawyer, grandfather is a lawyer).

      Berkeley is a good polytechnic faculty, but pale-faced American poking around is expensive. Already mostly one color in the form of benefits.
    4. 0
      August 16 2016
      For those who think the US is degrading


      They do not degrade, they stall. Degradation, this is already a collapse.
  14. +1
    August 16 2016
    As a technical university, it seems to me that MSTU is superior to Moscow State University. As for foreign education, it makes no sense to argue about whether engineers graduates know history or geography. As engineers, they will give odds to anyone. But as historians, for example, they are none. We are taught both that and another and it turns out that something is average. Many items just do not need a techie.
  15. 0
    August 16 2016
    Brains flow to where they are missing.
    1. +3
      August 16 2016
      Where there is a demand for them.
  16. +1
    August 16 2016
    Quote: voyaka uh
    For those who think that the US is degrading, it will probably be unpleasant
    see it ...

    Whoever dines with the girl dances her ...
    But seriously, look where the Nobel laureates received their education (with the exception of the Peace and Literature Prize), maybe something will become clear in my head.
  17. 0
    August 16 2016
    Quote: Army 2
    I would like to ask a question to the author and administrators: "So what?"

    I'm sorry, what..? That's what.

    voyaka uh IL Today, 17: 58 New
    Moscow State. University divided 87th place
    with ... our Jewish University in Jerusalem.

    Have a chat! drinks


    That's the professor with his students ... not visible.
  18. +2
    August 16 2016
    The rating, based on the statistics of the Swedish Nobel Committee, reflects the leading position of the United States in world science, which arose mainly due to the opportunities that are provided for research to scientists from different countries in American institutes and research centers. Most Americans are among the Nobel Prize winners - as many as 276. Moreover, many other countries, including the USSR / Russia, are also great in this - dozens of talented scientists come to America, conduct research, receive recognition there and receive the Nobel Prize, bringing the world glory to the United States. In second place after the United States in terms of the number of Nobel laureates - Great Britain - 102 people. Third place - with scientists and public figures from Germany - 77 laureates. France and Sweden are also in the top five - 49 and 30 Nobel Prize winners, respectively. In sixth place - Switzerland - 22 laureates.

    Russia ranks seventh in the number of laureates of the most prestigious world prize. 21 people in our country have been awarded this award. Of these, 9 are scientists awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics (Pavel Cherenkov, Ilya Frank and Igor Tamm in 1958, Lev Landau in 1962, Nikolai Basov and Alexander Prokhorov in 1964, Pyotr Kapitsa in 1978, Zhores Alferov in 2000, Vitaliy Ginzburg in 2003), two received the Nobel Prize in chemistry (Nikolai Semenov in 1956 and Ilya Prigozhin in 1977), two more scientists were awarded prizes in the field of physiology and medicine (Ivan Pavlov in 1904 and Ilya Mechnikov in 1908).
  19. -1
    August 16 2016
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: 3,14
    So to speak, rating from the future
    There is an opinion that in the future ranking the University of Tartu will be called Yuryevsky and will be located in the Livonia province of Russia. As you know, history moves in a spiral. And it seems that in the future for a sovereign state, Estonia does not have a place.


    So such a state never existed hi
  20. +1
    August 16 2016
    We will not train more Baltic states in our universities .... Everyone turned and scattered, like Ukrainians!
  21. -1
    August 16 2016
    I remembered the old joke:
    From the explanatory note about being late for work (no matter who and to whom): "Yesterday I was walking home from work, on the fence it was written - a hole (like zhp), put it in - caught a splinter, went to the doctor in the morning, asked for help, refused, it is not his profile that speaks. "
  22. 0
    August 16 2016
    The Nobel Prize is a subjective phenomenon.
    In addition, the USSR carefully concealed many discoveries behind state secrets.
    And then: Solzhenitsyn, Gorbachev, Obama, Begin and Sadat, Mandela, Sakharov ... Very And so on. Even scientific papers are selected according to priorities illogical and politicized. Although, for putty, some are out of order.
    So is the ranking of universities. What is taken into account there? the number of teachers with a high rating again? The number of high-ranking graduates? The number of scientific papers with a high rating?
    Although I did not leave Moscow State University even at 500. How many destroyers he released ... One worth what Gorbachev!
  23. +2
    August 16 2016
    Estonia was grossly flattered, today it is a miserable semblance of an ESSR. And tomorrow they will smear drunk tears on their dirty cheeks recalling how they were an ESSR.
  24. 0
    August 16 2016
    Now Estonians with undigested sprats from anger will leave laughing But I'm more interested, but where are Russian universities? First from the other end?
  25. 0
    August 16 2016
    All these ratings are crap ... All the same policy in its purest form, well, plus business of course.
  26. -1
    August 16 2016
    Well, the problems of Estonia and its university are their pain ...

    And as for:
    “If we talk about the best of Russian universities in this ranking, then this is Moscow State University, which entered the first hundred and took 87th place. According to the compilers of the rating of universities in the world, Moscow State University is inferior to such universities as McMaster University in Canada or the University of Queensland in Australia .. . The first three positions are given to universities from the United States: Harvard, Stanford and Berkeley "...

    One could argue if these universities were assessed by the level of teaching ...
    While the rector Sadovnichy is still at Moscow State University, I hope that the level of teaching subjects, especially the mechanics and mathematics (his favorite), is not decreasing, and in many respects exceeds the indicators of the "leading" Western universities ...

    A hybrid war is also being waged here, both in politics, sports, and the economy, in order to belittle the role and weight of the former Soviet, and now Russian science and teaching ...

    The gardener is - like a cliff, like an iceberg in the ocean ... Until he is afloat - he will not give up the position of Moscow State University ...
    And the fact that 87th place is again a game ... And three years ago, they were not among the first hundred ...

    Over now, our Olympic team is stripped down and brings victory ...
    So MSU together with its rector ...

    But what will happen after Sadovnichy leaves? Nothing special ... in the terms of the Liberal Democrats ... will turn into the same seedy and disgusting "organism" as the State University Higher School of Economics ...
  27. 0
    August 16 2016
    US stomped a foot and rating,
    with the help of bitters and lackeys,
    born prematurely.
  28. 0
    August 17 2016
    Not at all. They did everything right.
  29. 0
    August 17 2016
    After acquaintance with the results of a similar "rating" the unforgettable phrase of A.S. Griboyedov "Who are the judges?"
  30. 0
    August 17 2016
    Quote: voyaka uh
    By the way, everyone will be interested in what the first 25 places look like.
    For those who think that the US is degrading, it will probably be unpleasant
    see it ...


    Rating of the madness of the sages ...

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