Spiegel: the Bundeswehr doesn’t have enough money to buy the "Infantryman of the Future" system

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The new technical system "Infantryman of the Future", developed by order of the German military, turned out to be so expensive that at present only every 20th soldier can be provided with it, reports RIA News a message from the magazine Spiegel.

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Referring to the report of the Bundeswehr, the publication writes that "the allocated 570 million euros will not be enough for a new project, since only the development and testing of equipment has already cost 211 million euros."

The weekly clarifies that the new system includes "a personal computer connected to the network, Lucie night vision goggles, a helmet with a display and a silent walkie-talkie."

The contract for the development and production of the technical complex was concluded in 2006 with a subsidiary of the Rheinmetall concern. “However, the first samples were received only in 2012, and they need to be improved,” the magazine notes.

In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, is recognized as not yet feasible, since a soldier can practically not move in such a suit," concludes Spiegel.
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  1. +35
    August 13 2016
    So let them buy the "Infantryman of the Past" system hi laughing laughing
    1. +3
      August 13 2016
      Whom can you surprise with a smartphone now?
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      2. +15
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Smog
        So let them buy the "Infantryman of the Past" system hi laughing laughing

        Quote: Papandopulo
        Whom can you surprise with a smartphone now?


        Forgive my ignorance ... feel

        the ABC protection system is an airbag or anti-lock braking system .. once again, generously sorry feel
        1. +3
          August 13 2016
          Quote: vorobey
          In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, is recognized as not yet feasible, since a soldier can practically not move in such a suit," concludes Spiegel.

          Well, well, they will stand like idols with Fr. Easter. smile
          1. +6
            August 13 2016
            So soon, although what am I talking about, they are already feeding someone else's army.
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        2. +6
          August 13 2016
          For now, it's probably simple - blocking the brakes, tk.
          the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, has been recognized as unrealizable so far, since the soldier practically cannot move in such a suit "
          request
          1. +5
            August 13 2016
            Quote from the article
            Spiegel: the Bundeswehr doesn’t have enough money to buy the "Infantryman of the Future" system

            Ha! And thank God! The Germans are only better off! At the whim of Washington and London, the Germans themselves will have less desire to poke their attention into a war with Russia!
        3. +1
          August 13 2016
          Quote: vorobey
          the ABC protection system is an airbag or anti-lock braking system .. once again, generously sorry

          This is a selenium rectifier http://www.155la3.ru/avs120_270m1.htm
          And a whole bunch of junk under this index.
        4. +1
          August 13 2016
          Quote: vorobey
          once again, generously sorry

          Tu you plus good we must not forgive Yes !!! ++++++++ !!! laughing
        5. +1
          August 13 2016
          Quote: vorobey
          the ABC protection system is an airbag or anti-lock braking system .. once again, generously sorry

          No, judging by the fact that the infantryman barely moves in it (as they themselves write) - this is, rather, knightly armor laughing
        6. +2
          August 13 2016
          Quote: vorobey
          Forgive my ignorance ...

          the ABC protection system is an airbag or anti-lock braking system .. once again, generously sorry

          of course the second Sanya! Can't you see how Germany slows down and slows down? The brake is sacred for them! Once the brakes failed ... they don't want to anymore ...
        7. 0
          August 14 2016
          Or maybe ABC is an Automatic Soldier Lockout? lol
        8. 0
          August 14 2016
          Quote: vorobey

          the ABC protection system is an airbag or anti-lock braking system .. once again, generously sorry

          Rather, a pillow, anti-lock braking system is, rather, a piece of equipment that will be more handy for a proud estu wink
      3. +4
        August 13 2016
        The Germans ended in the 45th, and not because they lost to the Russians, but because they lay down, under the Anglo-Saxons ...!
        1. +17
          August 13 2016
          Quote: Finches
          The Germans ended in the 45th, and not because they lost to the Russians, but because they lay down, under the Anglo-Saxons ...!
        2. +6
          August 13 2016
          The Germans ended in the 45th, and not because they lost to the Russians, but because they lay down, under the Anglo-Saxons ...!
          No, the Germans were later, only the humps leaked them along with the GDR. Markus Wolf alone was worth it! ...
      4. -3
        August 13 2016


        Whom can you surprise with a smartphone now?


        Let them learn from the Yankees.
        1. +8
          August 13 2016
          And why? Radio controlled module with shooter heh smile Better to learn from, for example, Uranus 9 wink
          1. 0
            August 13 2016
            Platform-M
            Better to learn from, for example, Uranus 9

            Platform-M is not suitable? They promised us to test it in Syria.
        2. -1
          August 13 2016
          Why minus.? learns learns and learns again. Judging by the video, it's not a sin at all. For Zhukovskoe-women are still going to be people, no longer rolls.
      5. +6
        August 13 2016
        Whom can you surprise with a smartphone now?


        Nobody. But judging by the equipment, the infantryman of the future will be a tasty target for a gop-stop. Once we tracked down the bearded in new sneakers, and if the size came to half, it was happiness, but here, well, just a fat black grouse in our hands. Why is there a black grouse, half a pork carcass in its own juice!
        1. +1
          August 13 2016
          half a pork carcass in its own juice!
          -----------------------------------
          Did you eat them ?! : =))
          1. +2
            August 13 2016
            Did you eat them ?! : =))


            What is the coming day for me?
            My gaze catches in vain
            He lurks in the deep darkness.
            No need; rights of fate are the law.
            Will I fall, pierced by an arrow,
            Or she will fly by
            All is good: vigil and sleep
            The definite hour comes,
            Blessed is the day of cares
            Blessed is the arrival of darkness!


            Who knows what comes to mind in the field hunger laughing
    2. +6
      August 13 2016
      What's the difference: an infantryman of the past or of the future? We know the road to Berlin
    3. +12
      August 13 2016
      Quote: Smog
      So let them buy the "Infantryman of the Past" system hi laughing laughing

      In the photo, ordered by the German Ministry of Defense, from Rheinmetall, "equipment of the future" Gladius (clickable).
      A careful study of the configuration reveals that half of the technical equipment has already exceeded the planned cost. The second half, including small arms, generally has the prospect of being removed from service due to numerous scandals ...
      Business from the German military-industrial complex consists of exactly the same "dodgers" and financial tricksters, like ours. And if our people can be called on the carpet to GDP and rigidly forced to do what is stated, then in Germany it will not work.
      1. +4
        August 13 2016
        This is just one of the concepts of the IDZ program, about 11th year :) As far as I know, they change every year.
        Take the same armature - first everything is hung on it, and then they look for a good ratio of price and combat characteristics, removing some of the bells and whistles ... This is a common practice, so an example with an early concept is not entirely true, but an example with a complex of small arms is not particularly critical, since only the rifle itself (and magazines) changes, the body kit and everything else will continue to fit.
        In any case, the main problem is not that there is not enough for this, but in the huge additional financing of the Bundeswehr - not enough for any purchases and maintenance of military equipment in good condition is often done due to the dismantling of other units for spare parts .. Two years back about this flashed article of the same spiegel about fighters
      2. +2
        August 13 2016
        Andrey, excuse me, but in the Federal Republic of Germany private companies are engaged in supplies to the army, and if one of them supplies products at inflated prices all the time, then he does not need to be called on the carpet to someone else, they just no longer sign a contract with him and he is transferred to another company. All over the world this system has shown its effectiveness long ago! In manual mode, such a large country as Russia cannot be effectively managed for a long time, for this there must be institutions, the GDP is not God to keep up everywhere!
        1. +6
          August 13 2016
          Quote: Blackberry
          Andrey, excuse me, but in the Federal Republic of Germany private companies are engaged in supplies to the army, and if one of them supplies products at inflated prices all the time, then he does not need to be called on the carpet to someone else, it is just that a contract is no longer concluded with him and he is transferred another company ...

          Karen, I’m just talking about this. But you see this as our minus, while I, on the contrary, is a plus ...
          Why?
          The epic with the red tape of equipment in Germany has been dragging on since 2006, until now - "Not a horse, not a cart" ... Here is democracy for you with the transfer of contracts to the following manufacturers. The army and its supply is a topic, in my opinion, of tough responsibility and the most severe punishment for failure to fulfill obligations.
          The Germans, while they mature enough to equip the "soldier of the future", will have robotic systems rolling across the battlefield.
          1. -1
            August 13 2016
            Quote: Andrey K
            Quote: Blackberry
            Andrey, excuse me, but in the Federal Republic of Germany private companies are engaged in supplies to the army, and if one of them supplies products at inflated prices all the time, then he does not need to be called on the carpet to someone else, it is just that a contract is no longer concluded with him and he is transferred another company ...

            Karen, I’m just talking about this. But you see this as our minus, while I, on the contrary, is a plus ...
            Why?
            The epic with the red tape of equipment in Germany has been dragging on since 2006, until now - "Not a horse, not a cart" ... Here is democracy for you with the transfer of contracts to the following manufacturers. The army and its supply is a topic, in my opinion, of tough responsibility and the most severe punishment for failure to fulfill obligations.
            The Germans, while they mature enough to equip the "soldier of the future", will have robotic systems rolling across the battlefield.

            Located practically in the center of Europe, modern Germany has practically no open enemies, if this were not the case, the Hans would have arranged such an arms race and would have demanded from their producers so much that Mom, do not worry. ...
            I am especially touched by the comments of members of the forum, who write that the fighting spirit of the Hans has dried up, that they all have become gay, something and that. I want to say that God forbid, if in the Hans the so diligently crushed imperial spirit rears its head again and they begin to arm themselves- Then I'll see who would laugh at the Germans' wickedness. In 1918, no one thought that in 15 years the Germans would elect Hitler for themselves and in a few years they would begin to terrorize the whole of Europe in the literal sense of the word!
            1. +7
              August 13 2016
              Quote: Blackberry

              Such equipment is simply not needed at the moment.

              It may be needed, but the allocated funds have been "eaten", and there is nothing to add - the "refugees" are eating up.
              Pay attention to the fact that small arms - G-36, which the Germans are armed with - are also now "unnecessary" - they have a lot of complaints from the Bundeswehr for unreliability and uselessness. It got to the point that they began to clean warehouses and supply "moderate" barmaley with their rifles.
              Also note that with the most active support for the US actions in the BV, the Germans cannot support their ally with anything but words. Not because they do not want to, but simply physically unable to. Singled out 5 (five) aircraft, and then as scouts. The Germans have a very limited amount of aviation and combat-ready, the resource is on the verge and even for the sake of an ally - to drive planes back and forth, the Germans are not able to.
              I am especially touched by the comments of members of the forum, who write that the fighting spirit of the Hans has dried up, that they all have become gay, something and that. I want to say that God forbid, if in the Hans the imperial spirit so diligently crushed again raises its head and they begin to arm themselves- then I'll see who will laugh at the women of the Germans.

              I will not write about the morale of the Germans. The fact that fagots are above the roof is not even necessary to turn to British scientists. The fact that utterly relaxed and "refugees" tear their wives and daughters in front of their eyes, and they wipe away tears of misfortune - instead of multiplying by zero - this is also a fact.
              The military spirit develops gradually, consists of a million components - and these components are not in favor of the Bundeswehr.
        2. +1
          August 13 2016
          Quote: Blackberry
          ndrei, excuse me, but in the Federal Republic of Germany private companies are engaged in supplies to the army, and if one of them supplies products at inflated prices all the time, then he does not need to be called on the carpet to anyone, they just no longer sign a contract with him and he is transferred another firm.

          Do you understand what you are writing about? I even doubt it ..
          How many tank manufacturers are there in Germany? Well, that's not like theirs MO (suppose) transport A400 .. and its price .. To whom will they run? Boeing? Antonov? Ilyushin?
          The same applies to most military equipment. You can painlessly remember only the supplier of pasta ... if he overprices the price.
      3. +3
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Andrey K
        it won't work in Germany.

        Naturally not a ride! They have der ... feel oh i beg your pardon democracy bully !!
      4. +2
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Andrey K
        Business from the military-industrial complex of Germany, consists of exactly the same "dodgers" and financial tricksters, like ours.

        Here, IMHO, the question is different, it is technically difficult to do something really breakthrough and at the same time light, compact and cheap. Too raised the bar for requirements. what
      5. +9
        August 13 2016
        In the photo, ordered by the German Ministry of Defense, from the Rheinmetall company, "equipment of the future"


        Crap! Dear! Why tease the fighters like that! So many trophies on one walking target! Rather, let us know where they go! For there is an unhealthy revival in our unit .... laughing
        1. +10
          August 13 2016
          Quote: Asadullah
          Crap! Dear! Why tease the fighters like that! So many trophies on one walking target! Rather, let us know where they go! For there is an unhealthy revival in our unit .... laughing

          Yes, he himself was puzzled by the same thought. The Germans are afraid to put on this equipment. laughing
          The Gladius, in particular, includes a set of protective equipment (including body armor, helmet and goggles), optical infrared surveillance equipment, a laptop, a radio station, navigation aids (including GPS and compass), as well as weapons and a battery complex. The equipment is designed for extreme climatic zones and protects against biological and chemical weapons.
          (From the declared nomenclature of "equipment of the future" Gladius)

          As soon as the units appear outside the territory, the "refugees" will remove it from them. what
          They will arrive to the front line, all tattered like sticky, surrender, and we will have to dress these parasites in sweatshirts laughing
      6. +5
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Asadullah
        Who knows what comes to mind in the field hunger

        ... Hello Brother Asadullah ... hi ... exactly ... the harsh reality, will quickly put everything in its place ... hi
        Quote: Andrey K
        In the photo, ordered by the German Ministry of Defense, from Rheinmetall, "equipment of the future" Gladius

        ... gorgeous for a "war on the floor" or in the quiet of the headquarters ... the reality is somewhat more prosaic ... dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness ... hi
        1. +1
          August 13 2016
          .. Hello Brother Asadullah ..


          Salam Comrad! It's a shame to admit, but the most pleasant memories are to sort out the pockets and trunks of defeated enemies after the battle. feel Oh, how would such Germans be good for us, zer gut!
    4. +6
      August 13 2016
      Quote: Smog
      So let them buy the "Infantryman of the Past" system hi laughing laughing

      Also not enough. All the money goes to the needs of refugees and the Minister of Defense from gynecology.
      1. +5
        August 13 2016
        Amur (2)
        All the money goes to the needs of refugees and the minister of defense from gynecology.

        Forgive my naivety, to prevent unwanted pregnancies from those same refugees ??? what
    5. +5
      August 13 2016
      As they say, the new is the well-forgotten old ...
      1. +2
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Knizhnik
        As they say, the new is the well-forgotten old ...

        JOSEPH BRODSKY

        Lily Marleen

        Near the barracks, in the light of a lantern
        the leaves of September are circling in pairs,
        Oh, how long have these walls
        I myself stood,
        stood and waited
        you Lily Marlene
        you, Lily Marlene.

        If I don't die of fear in the trenches,
        if the Russian sniper doesn't make a hole for me,
        if I don’t surrender myself,
        then we will again
        twist love
        with you, Lily Marlene,
        with you, Lily Marlene.

        Beating with hurricane, God help,
        I will give the Ivans a helmet and boots,
        if only they allowed me in return
        under the lantern
        stand together
        with you, Lily Marlene,
        with you, Lily Marlene.

        Is there anything more banal than death in war
        and more sentimental than meeting at the moon,
        is there anything rounder than your knees,
        your knees,
        Ich liebe dich,
        my Lily Marlene,
        my Lily Marlene.

        The shells will run out, the war will end
        by the fence, alone at dusk,
        will you stand by these walls
        stand in the darkness,
        stand and wait
        me Lily Marlene
        me, Lily Marlene.
    6. The comment was deleted.
    7. +1
      August 13 2016
      Why is the Bundeswehr being revived? Yeah. Hope for NATO is zero. Moreover, this NAT is, in fact, an occupier of some kind of Reich. Then the horns and hooves of a known creature come out directly, but from behind a puddle. Still, "Great Germany" does not have sovereignty !? They tried to make it in the EU, but again NAT with its hairy tail and other attributes. It is not in vain that the Japanese with their aircraft also got sick. They also wanted independence. Was it not because of that that NATO was sharply excited about the case?
    8. 0
      August 13 2016
      Quote: Smog
      So let them buy the "Infantryman of the Past" system

      Let them collect armor from museums! wink
    9. 0
      August 13 2016
      Spiegel: the Bundeswehr does not have enough money to purchase the system "Infantryman of the Future
      » laughing borrow from parashenko ...
  2. +4
    August 13 2016
    Uncle Sam will help. He has enough paper.
  3. +3
    August 13 2016
    The cut of the Eurobabl and the Hans is present!
  4. +6
    August 13 2016
    Reduce the army 20 times, and that's enough for everyone! fool
    1. +4
      August 13 2016
      [quote = Exorcist Liberoids] Reduce the army 20 times, and that's enough for everyone! s
      And why do they need an army at all?
      1. 0
        August 13 2016
        Quote: Pirogov
        And why do they need an army at all?
        Apparently bad, since Merkel was aroused by the Arabs. It's not Klitschko to invite with the rabid junta. The Germans will not understand.
        1. 0
          August 13 2016
          Where to cut it? 225 tanks for the entire Bundeswehr. LDNR has more than twice as much what
  5. +3
    August 13 2016
    The new technical system "Infantryman of the Future", developed by order of the German military, turned out to be so expensive that at present only every 20th soldier can be provided with it ...

    This is ... Have you tried the lottery? Well, who should wear ... the Name of Merkel ...
    1. PKK
      +2
      August 13 2016
      If the future of the Bundeswehr is captured in Russia, then the money should be enough to live to see captivity.
  6. +2
    August 13 2016
    since a serviceman practically cannot move in such a suit, "

    Well then, hi is riding a swing in this suit! laughing
  7. +6
    August 13 2016
    In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, is recognized as not yet feasible, since a soldier can practically not move in such a suit," concludes Spiegel.


    Well, nifiga yourself, how sharp they are! They even have brakes built into their suit.
    1. PPD
      +1
      August 13 2016
      It's easier
      Quote: Smog
      For now, it's probably simple - blocking the brakes,

      Well, that is, so that he does not slow down on the battlefield. Well, it's not a sergeant to kick with his boot every time. Automation is convenient. Mr. Eneral pressed a button on the computer and everything was done. fellow
      1. 0
        August 13 2016
        Quote: PPD
        Eneral on the computer pressed the button and all the cases
        That’s why the general is eager to go to the Baltic states. A large polygon future without a population, everyone will be in E-ne. There is a lot of space to practice safety precautions in these spacesuits.
    2. +1
      August 13 2016
      Yes, we must give these suits to the Balts. They are already inhibited ... It will not be necessary to mount the ABS. Here is the reduction in price ... And the Balts are all the same to carry around the fields. Until it reaches them ...
  8. 0
    August 13 2016
    Here is the result of the sanctions of the gentlemen ... everyone will be x ..., except for ui ...
  9. 0
    August 13 2016
    Trump openly said to everyone, chase the money and we will protect you. We do not need your weapons or your armies. And even more so your developments ...............
  10. +3
    August 13 2016
    best German chancellor of all time
    1. 0
      August 13 2016
      Quote: alpamys
      best German chancellor of all time

      Do not blaspheme Colleague, otherwise Hindnburg perverted in a coffin, and Aloisich fell out of the cauldron in hell. sad
      1. +3
        August 13 2016
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Quote: alpamys
        best German chancellor of all time

        Do not blaspheme Colleague, otherwise Hindnburg perverted in a coffin, and Aloisich fell out of the cauldron in hell. sad
        So what! Comrade ALPAMIS is right! For a hundred years, an attempt to unleash a massacre has not yet come out on her side. The Diet accused the Nazis' criminals of genocide (Merkel's face in genocide-smiling Frau), supports the junta of Nazi-terrorists (the junta stuck its face in support of terrorism-smiling Frau). Best Chancellor! All with impunity! So that the white slippers fit her.
  11. +5
    August 13 2016
    there is not enough money to purchase the "Infantryman of the Future" system because all the money went to the "impudent refugee from ISIL" system
  12. +9
    August 13 2016
    ABS is an anti-lock braking system. They think now infantrymen with ABS will be able to fight the Russians in winter ...
  13. +3
    August 13 2016
    wassat I'm damn rzhu-u-u-uuu laughing well guys I just ride on the floor-oo-oo-oo lol from laughter !!!!! Judge for yourself:
    In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, has been recognized as unrealizable so far, since a soldier practically cannot move in such a suit,"

    Gy-gy-gy-gygygygygyyy wassat laughing lol
    1. 0
      August 13 2016
      Quote: gg.na
      ! Judge for yourself:

      Newest Aryan Armored Suit "Full Pe"?
    2. 0
      August 13 2016
      still funny agree laughing
  14. +1
    August 13 2016
    ... the Bundeswehr does not have enough money to purchase the "Infantryman of the Future" system ...

    When Peter I was building Peter, then a tribute in the form of three stones was required from everyone entering the cart.

    I suppose that "good Merkel" from each barmale entering the country should demand one "Infantryman of the future" system or babosy for their purchase.
  15. 0
    August 13 2016
    The military suit is unusual in color. I have another ... probably also a new trend ...
  16. +2
    August 13 2016
    There is never enough money for everything at once - they spent on sexual entertainment for their ladies (Germany is going to spend from 25 to 55 billion euros a year on refugees) and there is no money left for weapons. I will not undertake to condemn - for everyone it is a matter of his personal taste and choice.
  17. gcn
    0
    August 13 2016
    Soon the soldier will shine on radars no worse than helicopters with tanks, so much electronics on him and his weapons, plus batteries, there is no more room for extra ammunition, and if you have to take a suitcase on wheels
  18. 0
    August 13 2016
    For that, there are enough land grants for "good" newcomers and for the fight against Russia ... and so on.
  19. +1
    August 13 2016
    No need to walk wide, the pants will rip.
  20. 0
    August 13 2016

    In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, is recognized as not yet feasible, since a soldier can practically not move in such a suit," concludes Spiegel.
    A good excuse for not taking part in NATO operations and staying at home. She does not go, and that's it! request
  21. 0
    August 13 2016
    Quote: cniza
    So soon, although what am I talking about, they are already feeding someone else's army.
    Storage colony
    nuclear charges of a foreign army.
    1. 0
      August 14 2016
      Quote: Grandfather Micah
      Storage colony
      nuclear charges of a foreign army.

      And a ptential target for the Strategic Missile Forces.
  22. 0
    August 13 2016
    A little remark.
    I'm waiting for my relatives from West Rhine Festphalia, they will come on the 24th. For two weeks, as now we have done without a visa.
    A brother-in-law, 5 years in the Bundesphere served, previously served in the USSR Armed Forces, an air defense sergeant.
    Let's talk again. laughing
    So he hates in his soul the EU and the newly adopted countries. Like us and the "Americans", they have plans for New Zealand.
    Land in US dollars is cheap. laughing
    again we will gather in a heap.
  23. +1
    August 13 2016
    In particular, "the ABC protection system, which should be integrated into the infantryman's suit, has been recognized as unrealizable so far, since the soldier practically cannot move in such a suit," concludes Spiegel
    How can it not? Their ancestors on Lake Peipsi in heavy weapons could fight, but these leaders cannot.
    1. +1
      August 13 2016
      Those ABCs did not have, but these did not realize, the brakes jammed in the on position and went into failure, now, either manually reduce, if the drums, or dilute, if the discs, only here's the trouble, a wedge, you will not move wassat
  24. 0
    August 13 2016
    Be sure to read. You will not regret. The strongest thing about Germany, though not about weapons:
    http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1471089764
  25. 0
    August 13 2016
    Yes, they do not need to think about the future, but about the "glorious past" of 1 MV, 3 Reich and 2 MV, sitting under the heel of the United States in the Cold War and rejoicing at the NATO troops stationed in Germany with fiery American bombs, where even French cock-rocking units have a place to be , the Deutsches cannot provide their golds with something supernatural, well, Christ is with them, and Allah, they are all in Germany, akbar, but in general, at the beginning of the comments, there are some jokes - / So let them buy the system "Infantryman of the past / , seriously no one wants to develop the topic or cannot, so what is the bazaar about ...
  26. 0
    August 13 2016
    Lived! Have you run out of euro bills in Germany? request Probably everything was spent on newcomer Arabs! recourse
  27. 0
    August 13 2016
    Of course, some kind of nonsense, if they want, they will find money. Here it is important for the Germans to remember how it all ends when they are well armed and equipped and at the same time are under external control. All will end in 45, but this time the consequences for the nation could be dire. The nation of Germans may disappear. Here's what needs to be conveyed to the German man in the street.
  28. +7
    August 13 2016
    It all depends on the Minister of Defense. We had a furniture dealer - Mistralils, etc.
    The Germans now have a minister of defense - a gynecologist. Consequently, the worries are different. Women's.
    diapers, and military style tampaxes. Never mind, let them rejoice that the minister is not a proctologist!
    1. +4
      August 13 2016
      The proctologist is still nothing. Now, if a pathologist, Toda - oh!
  29. 0
    August 14 2016
    In the photo there is a camouflage like German, but what kind of rifle does the soldier have, I wonder?
  30. 0
    August 14 2016
    To begin with, you need to kick an ethnic Pole from the post of chancellor, otherwise she will lead the country into such an ass that the Bundeswehr will dress in civilian clothes.
    Vaughn England began to whine that her weapons were worse than the Russian ones. And the Baltics and Poland in general raised such a high that "turn off the light, drain the water."
    Here, on the sly, and you can clean up - "The Baltic States and Poland will be taken in a day, but we will generally be demolished in an hour."
    Cut payments to refugees - "and how are we going to defend them with antediluvian weapon." Shake some money from Brussels - "after the Baltics, Poland and us, you are next."
    laughing
  31. 0
    August 14 2016
    It is necessary to spend less on black-hoisted people.
    Otherwise, soon everyone will be transferred to full board, including the ISIS members.
    Well, yes, rearmament is a very expensive thing.
  32. +7
    August 14 2016
    We recently spoke with a former German paratrooper. He rattled off 8 years in boots. He responded very poorly, the real combat readiness figures are much lower than the unimpressive official ones. By and large, Germany is not in a position to carry out a major operation. Logistics is based on rented Ruslans -124x. Rifles do not withstand loads - the barrels are leading. And the saddest thing is that the people are very frail, no flesh in the body, no motivation. My friend's dad is a colonel from the Cold War era, and this situation just upsets him.
    I think we will not worry ..

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