About the events in the Crimea, or what to do with Kiev mad dog?

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Maydannaya authorities of Ukraine have crossed even the notorious red line, of which a considerable number were crossed, and the real double solid - with the “overtaking” of events, “going to the oncoming lane” and all the accompanying attributes of criminal recklessness. Based on the materials provided by the public relations center of the Federal Security Service of Russia, it turned out that rumors about the military activity of Ukraine not only on the border with the Russian Federation (on the Crimean sector), but also in the Crimea, were in reality a harsh reality.

About the events in the Crimea, or what to do with Kiev mad dog?


Personnel DSP FSB RF:


The intersection of a double continuous with an attempt to overtake the development of any event by definition entails severe punishment. This punishment, according to Russian laws, is the deprivation of the right to drive a vehicle. Given the fact that the right to drive a vehicle called “Ukraine”, its current “driver” received, so to speak, in a non-standard way, then, based on this, the essence of the “claims” by the Russian Federation was outlined.

Russian President Vladimir Putin appealed to the sponsors of the Maidan coup, endowing those with “driver’s licenses” to those who would find it difficult to entrust the management even with their own actions. Putin actually marked out the harsh conditions of future contacts with Kiev puppets of the West. According to the Russian president, there can be no talk of any kind of cooperation within the framework of the so-called Norman format, given the fact that Kiev has moved on to the frank practice of terror. This format in the conditions of what happened in the Crimea loses all meaning. According to Vladimir Putin, the West must either finally recognize that a settlement in Ukraine is not part of his plans, or if he is interested in the opposite (Vladimir Putin: “I really hope for ...”), he must take steps and influence on the Kiev authorities.

RIA News quotes the president of Russia:
At first glance, it would seem, this is a silly criminal action. Stupid, because it is impossible to positively influence people living in the Crimea in such a way, and criminal, because people could die. But I think that in reality the situation is even more alarming, because there is no other meaning than carrying away the attention of one’s own people from the plight of the economy, from the plight of a significant number of citizens of their country. I want to note and I think that this is in the media, there are losses on the Russian side, two servicemen have been killed. We certainly will not pass by such things. This is very disturbing information. Indeed, the special services prevented the sabotage and reconnaissance group of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine from entering the territory of Ukraine. And, of course, in these conditions to meet in the Norman format, especially in China, is meaningless.


So, as a result of the Kiev provocation, two Russian security officials were killed - an officer of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation and a soldier of the Russian Defense Ministry. This price is the very Ukrainian provocation, which pursued not only the goals of a terrorist orientation, but also the clear intention to “test” the Crimea for white spots in the security system. Indeed, it is one thing - a formed military group with the latest anti-aircraft missile and coastal anti-ship complexes and quite another thing - an invisible anti-terrorism network, those who have long and decisively sponsored terrorism in all its manifestations, including state-scale terrorism, so hoped for gaps. It is clear that no one today will allow himself to fight openly against Russia for the same Crimea. But the terrorist training manual, the essence of which literally the other day was revealed by the ex-deputy head of the CIA of the United States, calling for “covertly” killing Russians, continues to be popular with those who are ready to exploit its “precepts”.

How did it all begin? It is known that several residents of Armyansk, located on the Perekopsky isthmus, 6 of August reported to the special services about the suspicious activity of persons in military uniform with Russian chevrons. The task force, once in place, identified about two dozen individuals who were engaged in loading explosives and weapons from caches in the car. As soon as the members of the task force tried to establish what kind of activity these people were conducting, they opened fire on them. One of the FSB officers was mortally wounded. As a result of the clash, the sabotage group was neutralized. Among those arrested is group commander Yevgeny Panov, born 1977, from Zaporizhzhya region. The FSB of the Russian Federation found out that Panov is an employee of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

After neutralization of this sabotage and terrorist group, the Ukrainian side did not stop the attempts to transfer militants and personnel soldiers to Russian territory. Taking into account the fact that the FSB of the Russian Federation decided to close off the land border sections, including in the area of ​​Armyansk, the Ukrainian groups made two attempts to penetrate the Crimean peninsula through Sivash, which in many summer areas dries out significantly. At the same time, to distract the attention of the Russian side, units of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine opened fire from armored vehicles. When the sabotage and terrorist groups in Sivash were identified, the Ukrainian armored vehicles even entered the reservoir to carry out fire support already in place. According to some data, armored personnel carriers were used for these purposes.

After the publication of the Federal Security Service of this information, the Ukrainian media were clearly in a stupor. Difficulties have been and continue to be observed with the provision of counter-arguments. So, the Ukrainian portal "Observer", trying to somehow comment on the events, issued material in which it is said that the mentioned Panov from Zaporozhye is “just a volunteer and a member of the ATO”, he is a member of the so-called “Self-Defense Energodar”. At the same time, it was stated that he really served in the Zaporozhye 37 battalion as an intelligence officer, but allegedly was “an ordinary soldier who left 2015 of the year in August”. And then the Observer himself publishes a statement by the deputy head of one of the veterans' organizations of Ukraine, Yaroslav Derkach, that neither he, nor relatives and friends of Panov, know how he ended up in the Crimea and what he was going to do there. It would be strange if Panov and the representatives of his grouping informed the same veteran organization and plans for their terrorist actions on the territory of the Russian Federation.

And how did the appointees of the Kiev authorities respond to the events in Crimea and the statements of the Russian president? Elizabeth Trudeau, the official representative of the US Department of State, announced that she did not have specific information, but added that in any case the position of the United States would remain unchanged: “Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, the United States condemns the occupation of the Crimea and Russian military actions in eastern Ukraine . Washington will retain the sanctions until the return of Crimea by Russia to Ukraine. ”

Translated into ordinary language, this statement means only one thing: the United States will continue to support any provocative actions of Kiev. Moreover, it is quite pulling for evidence of the fact of sanctioning the sabotage and terrorist operation of the Ukrainian security forces in the Crimea by Washington. Plus, there is a certain analogy with Mikhail Saakashvili’s “blitzkrieg” of August 2008 sample, except that Saakashvili decided on more large-scale hostilities, and that Russia responded in the language of force accessible to American puppets.

In this whole situation, one thing is clear: Kiev and its puppeteers do not understand the language of diplomacy, and are not ready to understand, by definition. It is also clear that to continue to stroke a mad dog and to “interpret” something is simply meaningless with it. So "put to sleep" the first and put before the fact of the second? Of course, this option looks radically, but it is an option ...

Another thing is that the Russian president immediately after the publication of official information about the attempt to break through indicated the answer: there will not be any Norman, and, therefore, Minsk format, which have recently become a non-working formality. Then the question is: what will happen?
We can assume the main message of Moscow: Russia is no longer ready to accept any of the current authorities of Ukraine as an independent party to the negotiation process. Yes, they are not independent parties ... never ... There are no more intimate conversations with a rabid dog, because, first, the absurdity of these conversations is obvious, and second, the owner must sit at the negotiating table. Dirty - sit down and hold the answer! Not going to negotiate on specific issues host, well ... this is his right. But Russia also has a right: a rabid doggy dog, constantly sprinkling with the current poisonous saliva and trying to bite more painfully - at the point of sleep. Will there be a “righteous democratic” squeal? And now it is not it? .. But the “animal” is “being tormented”, and the long-suffering people of Ukraine too ...
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  1. +105
    August 11 2016
    No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent! So Svidomysh knew that even for calls for destabilization of the Crimea, the punishment will be one - utilization !!!
    1. +41
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent!



      Mad dogs are shot, we do not have all the information, but there will be something serious.
      1. +133
        August 11 2016
        I am in favor of an asymmetric approach. And I'll explain why. I, too, like many, want a "Caliber" in the residence of Poroshenko and in the places where the Ukrainian military group is concentrated. But it is better to finally let the Ukrainian economy collapse and get riots on the city streets. For this, even gas does not need to be cut off, violating an obligation to Europe. Just giving the LDNR command is really not to let coal into the Ruin. The coal reserves at the Ukrainian thermal power plants will be enough for 2 months at most, in October there will be a collapse. Neither Poland nor South Africa will be able to cover the needs of the Ruins in the coal of Donbass and Kuzbass, both in quantity and in brand. We are dealing with a werewolf vampire who grew out of the body of the Ukrainian SSR, where his weakness is, death. No matter how much we compare Ukraine with Somalia, but Somalia cannot physically exist in the temperate continental zone in the 21st century, so let's give them a choice, to remain human or to refute this myth about White Somalia to harm the Muscovites ?!
        1. 0
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am in favor of an asymmetric approach. And I'll explain why. I, too, like many, want a "Caliber" in the residence of Poroshenko and in the places where the Ukrainian military group is concentrated. But it is better to finally let the Ukrainian economy collapse and get riots on the city streets. For this, even gas does not need to be cut off, violating an obligation to Europe. Just giving the LDNR command is really not to let coal into the Ruin. The coal reserves at the Ukrainian thermal power plants will be enough for 2 months at most, in October there will be a collapse. Neither Poland nor South Africa will be able to cover the needs of the Ruins in the coal of Donbass and Kuzbass, both in quantity and in brand. We are dealing with a werewolf vampire who grew out of the body of the Ukrainian SSR, where his weakness is, death. No matter how much we compare Ukraine with Somalia, but Somalia cannot physically exist in the temperate continental zone in the 21st century, so let's give them a choice, to remain human or to refute this myth about White Somalia to harm the Muscovites ?!

          Dear Nevsky, cutting off coal supplies to Ukraine is the same as leaving Dombass, which had already suffered during a brutal war, without a livelihood, because they supply coal not for free, Ukraine pays for it with real money. In this case, Russia itself should buy the coal from Donbass that they did not supply to Ukraine. But there is a risk, and not a small one, it is likely that Ukraine will not fall apart in a year or two and Russia will have to buy this coal all the time, since having stumbled upon an energy blockade by the Donbass, Kiev is unlikely to buy coal from it in the future, I even think that it will tighten the blockade of unrecognized republics.
          1. +11
            August 11 2016
            Well then what? Start as always from the tail? How many have noticed long ago ...
            1. +16
              August 11 2016
              Well then what? Start as always from the tail? How many have noticed long ago ...
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              Well, why? The economic blockade of Krajina is already in full swing, and the coal of Donbass will not save it, at least for it, as already noted, the money is paid.
              So, as Vanga predicted, we will wait for the third Maidan riot of the hungry.
              1. +13
                August 11 2016
                The reason for the anger of our president must also be linked to a debt of three billion Baku, which, apparently, it has recently become clear that Kiev will never return. And Putin is not the kind of person who can tolerate this. Russia repays all its debts in a timely manner, writes off loans to loyal countries, gives them to its allies, and at the same time, it is unlikely to tolerate default on the traitor of the Slavic brotherhood - Ukraine. as if the latter did not have to pay tribute to the graves of their military personnel and new economic problems.
                1. 0
                  August 12 2016
                  Quote: aktanir
                  The reason for the anger of our president must also be linked to a debt of three billion Baku, which, apparently, it has recently become clear that Kiev will never return. And Putin is not the kind of person who can tolerate this. Russia repays all its debts in a timely manner, writes off loans to loyal countries, gives them to its allies, and at the same time, it is unlikely to tolerate default on the traitor of the Slavic brotherhood - Ukraine. as if the latter did not have to pay tribute to the graves of their military personnel and new economic problems.

                  so there fagot ... indestructible
              2. 0
                August 11 2016
                What are you, a sadist "my friend". After all, there are at least 35-40%, adequate adults, and how many children. Who will save the children, on the very territory captured by the Nazis, and with the territory of the DPR and LPR, what to do? Sometimes you read such comments and more and more I am convinced, YES THE USE EDUCATION DOES. If you have a question about my education, I will tell you. WALKED TO SCHOOL AFTER DAY, FLIGHT SCHOOL, NOW A PENSIONER.
                And yet, do not think that I want to offend, but you have a respected, strange nickname. It sounds like the root of the word associated with baby supplies. You are probably a specialty, children's teacher.
                1. +8
                  August 11 2016
                  This is about children http://politobzor.net/show-102538-ukrainskih-shkolnikov-budut-uchit-nacizmu.html

                  And, mind you, they will not be taught by someone "from the outside", but by representatives of just those 35-40% of "adequate adults".
                  1. +22
                    August 11 2016
                    Dear Russians! Look at the Turks. You cut off all the contracts with them, and not a year had passed before Erdogan rushed to Peter! Although the Turks have the main trade with the EU, 50% of all foreign trade. And Kiev and Russia (CIS) had 50%, it is obvious that Poroshenko will not last half a year. How can he stay in power if he cannot heat the country? He cannot repay a debt of 3 billion, the default of Kiev is in the hands of the Kremlin. Problems in the summer !!! with electricity - they can no longer without a Russian system. And where do they get fuel and lubricants from? EVERYTHING IS IN HANDS OF MOSCOW - it’s as clear as day !!! Events in the Crimea give every right to tighten all the cranes - they do not trade with the aggressor and all agreements can be canceled. hi
                    It is reported that Poroshenko wants to urgently talk with the GDP - apparently Moscow has already threatened with something so that Kiev needed a conversation.
                    1. +2
                      August 12 2016
                      Quote: Kasym
                      It is reported that Poroshenko wants to urgently talk with the GDP - apparently Moscow has already threatened with something so that Kiev needed a conversation.

                      Whether the Kremlin wants to talk to this muskrat is the question. I think that the GDP so far does not want to decide on Hohland, waiting for the first cold weather. Why? So that not only Poros and co are more accommodating, but also Europe. We add to this choice the main players in this party: Germany, France, the USA and all this at the very end of the year.
                      At the same time, I believe that indeed, as I said long before these events, it is necessary to exercise the right to “destroy terrorist camps regardless of their location” ... in this case, near the borders of Crimea.
                      Further strengthen the work of our specialists in Kharkov, Mariupol, Odessa, etc. ... I am convinced that it is time to end this fascist regime despite the squeals of Europe and the disapproval of striped amphibians.
                2. +11
                  August 11 2016
                  What are you, a sadist "my friend". After all, there is at least
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                  If you addressed your speech to me, then I will answer you.
                  First, where does it end that I'm a sadist? A simple statement of facts and nothing more, and not in my power to change anything.
                  Regarding education, dear, everything is in order — the Soviet school, the Soviet university.
                  As for Nick, after the first ban he did not rack his brains and went through his wife's email, I have Guzel. Which does not bother me at all, in view of the innate sense of self-irony.
                  All sorts of "knights", "Normans" and other "golden eagles" with inflated self-esteem in life cause much more concern.
                  Yes, by the way, I, if that is also a senior citizen, only with a profession did not guess a little, although nearby: =))
                  1. +1
                    August 12 2016
                    "other" golden eagles "" this is my aviation call sign with a number.
                3. +6
                  August 11 2016
                  Dear Вerkut 752, you need to designate the person you are contacting, otherwise you don't know how to relate to the comment, since it is not clear to whom it refers. You display the quotation in blue and click "Quote".
                  1. +2
                    August 11 2016
                    Quote: shasherin_pavel
                    you must indicate the person you are contacting, otherwise you don’t know how to relate to the comment
                    - Right!

                    Guslars (sing)
                    But not a strong cloud cluttered ...
                    And not strong thunders struck ...
                    Where the dog goes Crimean king ...

                    Bunsha
                    What kind of dog is this? I won’t let the king sing such songs! Though Crimean, he is not a dog!
                    (To the clerk.) What musicians have you brought?
                    They blossomed here without me! ... "


                    laughing
                  2. 0
                    August 12 2016
                    Thank you very much.
            2. +5
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              Well then what? Start as always from the tail? How many have noticed long ago ...

              I myself don’t know what to offer. If the Russian government makes economic calculations and comes to the conclusion that it will be able to support Dombass for 5-6 years with a complete economic blockade by Ukraine, then the proposed option of pressure on Ukraine is quite effective, if only at the same time, I am repeating myself, but I can’t help but say, already already suffering people in Dombass did not suffer.
              1. +3
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Blackberry
                people already suffering in Dombass did not suffer.



                Ahem ... From what is in the open media, it is known ... Help from Russia: Gumkonvoi (already lost count) ... gas ... electricity ... This is just what is in the open press ...

                And, something seems to me that this is only a small fraction ...
              2. +1
                August 12 2016
                I myself don’t know what to offer. If the Russian government does
                Dear Karen! judging by the flag of the Armenian. if you know about the number of Armenians living in Armenia and living in Russia. it is necessary to separate and understand the historical and actual homeland. and the ratio of 1.8 and 3 million in Russia. The Russian government is Ruriks. and after the capture of Kazan with the 60 thousand Tatars against the 30 thousand Tartars, and Russia was in troubled times. kings by nationality and queens were different and people under their power distinguished themselves by different nationalities. Well, we will not disassemble the USSR? and if our common government makes a mistake, then everything will be bad. when at the beginning of the 20 century, Russia began to fall apart, and Armenia fell back in blood. Yes, and 90 e years did not pass by. for many peoples of Eurasia. I’m leading this story about tact to our common homeland. it's about the dope happening in Armenia and Ukraine. Respectfully, Vlad.
          2. +15
            August 11 2016
            Do you still naively think that republics exist at their own expense?
            1. +22
              August 11 2016
              Quote: black
              Do you still naively think that republics exist at their own expense?

              I have a higher economic education, I used to work in the tax inspectorate of Armenia and am not particularly naive. At first any such state needs support. In Nagorno-Karabakh there were huge investments in hydropower and today Karabakh is exporting electricity to Armenia itself! All investments were made by private investors from the Armenian diaspora of the USA and France.
              And the potential of Donbass is huge compared to the potential of the same Nagorno-Karabakh, Karabakh has always been an agricultural region in the USSR.
              1. +8
                August 11 2016
                So let’s drink for the vast expanses that open from the peaks of Nagorno-Karabakh! Donbass coal is needed only in Ukraine. And in LNR, the army, police, military police, educational institutions, etc., are maintained, not counting pensioners.
              2. +4
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Blackberry
                And the potential of Donbass is huge compared to the potential of the same Nagorno-Karabakh,


                Donetsk region - the largest industrial region of Ukraine, provides about 20% of the industrial production of the state (with a population of 10% of the all-Ukrainian).
                The main industries are coal and iron and steel ...
                Non-ferrous metallurgy, mining of rock salt, chemical industry, heavy engineering are also developed ... Donetsk region has the most dense network of railways in the territory of the former USSR.

                Lugansk region has significant economic potential and is one of the five most powerful industrial and economic regions of Ukraine. Its share in the total Ukrainian gross value added is 4,5%. On its territory, 4,6% of fixed assets of Ukraine, 5% of labor resources are concentrated.
                The specialization of the Lugansk hub is determined by the enterprises of engineering, metalworking and light industry ...

                So what, Lugansk and Donetsk, with the help of Russia, have nothing to trade with Russia itself and - with the help of Russia - with other countries ???

                Or, after all, without the sale of coal to Ukraine, is there anyway?
            2. +3
              August 11 2016
              Do you doubt that it is possible to exist for Russian rubles?
              1. +1
                August 11 2016
                I didn’t mean you.
              2. +4
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Berkut752
                Do you doubt that it is possible to exist for Russian rubles?

                I doubt that the Russian ruble can keep a foreign state alive. Please note that Russian medicine does not have the means to treat children with severe (beyond the average) diseases, "let's throw in the treatment ...". And we can help Syria, we undertake to support Donetsk. And you did not ask yourself the question: why Lugansk and Donetsk still cannot unite? When there were battles, I was personally surprised that the Ukrainian security forces landed at the Donetsk airport and walked past Donetsk to fight in Lugansk. Then the security forces began to annoy Donetsk and the fighting for the airport began ... And if the security forces had not attacked Donetsk, but systematically pressed the people of Luhansk ... how would events have developed? Personally, I'm not sure that Donetsk would have gotten involved in hostilities because of Luhansk. Do not forget that it was in the Donetsk region during the presidential elections, in some polling stations, Potroshenko was in the lead. Every time Ukrainian long-minded people step on the rake, which they themselves lay out on their way, run ahead, put the rake down, go back and step on the rake with a ceremonial step. And this operation is repeated again. Although this is not news to me. Studying the history of the USSR, I see that our partners along the borders from Vladivostok to Murmansk did this every month. Once, in the eighties, I counted the number of months that the USSR in 1924 to 1941 lived peacefully, that is, the months in which our border guards or military personnel did not die on the border ... I counted a total of 2,5 years, about thirty months when border guards and military personnel did not die. At the same time, sometimes five of them actually went to blow up the collective farm mill. They hoped that the collective farmers would start a hunger riot against the Soviet regime. This is who has now asked himself the question: how many of these saboteurs were in Soviet camps. Only now, under the democratic system, they all suffered from the Soviet regime, from the terror of the Kremlin over their people. How do these differ from the previous saboteurs? Those that wanted ... I don't know: to blow up twenty pillars of the tramway from Simferopol to Yalta. They hoped that tourists would have nothing to get to the resorts. But no !!! Vigilant Russian patriots are not inferior in their attention and divination to FSB workers. And I say this not without mockery! They deserve a reward. And so it has always been, after any successful sabotage in the border areas, people became more alert to strangers.
          3. +2
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Blackberry
            cut off coal supplies to Ukraine is the same as leaving upмbass, and so affected during the brutal war, without a livelihood.

            Do not forget about the population of Ukraine. A significant part is simply puppets with an extended brain.

            Such an action will not add their sympathy for the Russians.

            There is a great hurry, if not agony.

            The Americans' move to discredit Russia with a Boeing shot down over Novorossia did not ultimately achieve its main goal.

            Not only that - he left an extremely inconvenient topic in the investigation - after all, it will still be necessary to somehow publish its results.

            And the overall result of "Ukrainian cuisine" also does not suit the owners of the money - Russia has suffered a certain amount of damage in the short term, so to speak, their temporary tactical victories in some areas, but in the long term - strategically - a clear defeat.

            And these "victories" were not easy for the enemies either - the collapse of oil prices by the Saudis at the instigation of the Americans brought problems and losses to both conspirators - some squandered the budget and no longer bet on oil (but what about the petrodollar?), While others practically buried the shale industry ...

            But mattress "partners" follow a well-known formula - let me have an eye out, if my neighbor has both!
            1. +2
              August 12 2016
              Odessa saying, on this occasion. reads as follows:
              So that I see them on one leg, and they have me with one eye.
          4. +7
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Blackberry
            Dear Nevsky, cutting off coal supplies to Ukraine is the same as leave Dombass, and so affected during the brutal war, without a livelihood.Because they do not supply coal for free, Ukraine pays for it with real money.


            Hmm ... That's the problem, that pitying these or those (and there is always a place for pity) we all (Russia and the Donbass) walk and run in a closed vicious circle ...

            If the gas cock had been cut off in time for Ukraine, despite its tricks and blackmail, the situation would have been much simpler ... But then a wave came up: And what is the people of Ukraine guilty of? Why should he freeze?

            And the people of Ukraine at this time fiercely hate the people of Russia, and every year this hatred only intensifies ... Hatred is not in the Rada and the government, but in the people ...

            Yesterday I just talked with a man who returned home from Ukraine, Sumy region ... His wife is Ukrainian, he is local, Russian ... I won’t tell anything, he just said: it became impossible to live Russian in Ukraine .. .

            To hell with him, Russia allegedly buys coal from the Donbass ... It won't last long, as you say ... One winter - really with twisted cranes (gas, coal) - will immediately put the junta in place ... And the people brainwashing "vice versa" is now useless to do ...
            1. +5
              August 11 2016
              Quote: weksha50
              Hatred is not in Parliament and government, but in the people ...

              I agree. The brotherly German people woke up only after certain events, unfortunately.
          5. +5
            August 11 2016
            I think the end justifies the means ... And it’s better to buy coal from the Donbass of Russia than to sell it to Ruin. Because everything goes to the point that with a “mad dog” you really have to do something, and in my opinion, it’s better so that it can be torn apart from within by its own people, which is gradually becoming clear despite all this propaganda than starting some kind of active movements that go beyond the economic impact ... in 2017 there will be problems with coal, in 2019 gas transit will stop ... all this cannot the existing regime can simply be swept away by a real maidan. The only thing that should be considered is adequate answers in order to discourage the desire to send all kinds of DRG to the Crimea, as well as daily, brazenly and meanly shelling residential areas of the DPR and LPR ... With respect to to all readers and authors of VO, I have been reading materials with interest for three years now and for the first time I decided to post my comment.
          6. 0
            August 12 2016
            In fact, "Blackberry", Russia can easily buy anthracite from the DPR / LPR because in the Rostov region, thanks to our liberals from the government, many mines have been closed since the 90s. At present, only 2 of more than 40 remain, and they extract coke and a little anthracite. It is a long way to deliver coal from Kuzbass, and local coal is very expensive due to a shortage (mines were closed). Why not buy coal from the DPR / LPR, especially since it is close to transportation? "Ruina" even if it takes in South Africa or Australia in addition to Poland - what they wanted, they got it ...
            1. 0
              August 12 2016
              In addition, the conversion of thermal power plants to coal of a different grade is long and expensive and not always economically feasible, or even physically impossible. It is important what coal the station was designed for. Energy value, ash content, contamination with impurities, etc.

              it is very possible that coal from South Africa at a comparable price will be of poor quality and it will be problematic to heat it, and comparable in terms of parameters, taking into account transportation, will turn out to be just gold.
          7. 0
            August 12 2016
            Pays to Ukrainian accounts of these mines. Please do not confuse the sinful with the righteous.
        2. +85
          August 11 2016
          As a native Kiev resident, I can say that the economic option is the most effective. I feel myself in occupation ... And through my own wallet it will reach even the most stupid and uporotyh.
          1. +24
            August 11 2016
            Quote: vekxx1986
            As a native Kiev, I can say that the economic option is the most effective.

            The junta will NEVER go hungry - they will dump them over a hill with stolen pennies, like a mad rabbit.
            Dermocratic West will support Bandera until the last Ukrainian, allocating the minimum for the dying amount.
            The hunger riot will be redirected to the channel of the blatant pro-Nazi Maidan, with slogans similar to Hitler’s in early 1933.
          2. 0
            August 11 2016
            Dear, I sympathize with you. But as the Armenian actor Mkrchan said, "... I think so ...", there is not long to wait. Good luck to you.
            1. +1
              August 11 2016
              written: "Mkrchan"
              should read: Mkrtchan.

              I admit, an eyelid, do not judge me ...
              1. 0
                August 12 2016
                And you, "my friend", are a keen-sighted falcon. Glad for you and thank you, henceforth I will follow your example.
            2. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Berkut752
              wait a long time.
              by the standards of human life, this is "not long" by the standards of historians, for whom a hundred years is not a time to "wait only 99 years, and then a whole year of bliss!"
        3. +42
          August 11 2016
          Collapse. In October there will be collaps. Otherwise, you are absolutely right. This will be exactly the flogging of the junta with an economic whip. A force option is not an option. Formally, Crimea is still the territory of Ukraine, so from the point of view of the "world community" there is no corpus delicti in actions There are no Ukrainian DRGs. In the event of a forceful solution, the "entire civilized world" will declare Russia an aggressor with all the consequences, the Ukrainian population will be told that Russia has NAPALA, and there will be no normal relations between the peoples after that. So, however, Western scriptwriters intended to blood was shed between Russia and Ukraine, and as much as possible. But if we understood the idea of ​​democratic directors, then is it worth playing according to their script? So there is no coal for the junta, no gas, no workers (by the way, Galician people travel to Russia and from Russia to earnings in trains are still, dirty, smelly, drunk, they curse Russia, but they go. Maybe it's time to refuse their services? Let’s jump at home!). This will be a move. It’s worse than with Erdogash.
          1. +5
            August 11 2016
            First, dear. From the point of view of the UN, I will not go into details, the outskirts, this is the republic of Russia, which is the successor to the USSR.
            Secondly, a strike with one or two missiles, no more, is possible. There are US precedents. But this is all so "blurry" that the best and surest way, as you indicated, is economic, but according to the strict rules of Russia.
            1. 0
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Berkut752
              From a UN perspective,
              in which people are sitting who have lived a conscious life after "perestroika" and for them ... I tell you for sure, Madagascar is in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and Sakhalin off the coast of Africa, the results of the EGe! They confuse Austria with Australia, and you want them to find U.rain on the globe.
              1. +1
                August 11 2016
                Quote: shasherin_pavel
                in which people are sitting who have lived a conscious life after "perestroika" and for them ... I tell you for sure, Madagascar is in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and Sakhalin off the coast of Africa, the results of the EGe! They confuse Austria with Australia, and you want them to find U.rain on the globe.



                Here ... I’m reading your second comment on this article ... In the first, you have been told the minuses ...
                But I'm still thinking about putting a "plus", but - something keeps ... hi
                1. 0
                  August 12 2016
                  Doctors do not advise any abstinence.
              2. 0
                August 12 2016
                You are absolutely right, the "Batka" has a sea where the 6th fleet can enter, on the outskirts of the mountain, Russia pumps gas from Europe, through the outskirts.
                Interesting girls are dancing.
            2. +2
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Berkut752
              From the point of view of the UNI won’t go into details, outskirts, this is the republic of Russia, which is the successor to the USSR.


              Hmm ... But I still thought that the outskirts are now, as it were, an independent and "sovereign" state ... From the point of view of the same UN ...

              And why on earth has the UN Security Council gathered? To solve the internal problems of Russia - the successor of the USSR?

              Nooo, he gathered at the request of the same outskirts ...

              This means that the UN Security Council is interfering in the internal affairs of Russia ... In its showdown with the "internal" republic ... Will they accept a resolution on granting freedom from Russian dependence ???

              How to understand all this?
              1. -1
                August 12 2016
                Some republics were present at the UN, during the USSR.
                On the map of the UN, there is no state distinction between the outskirts and Russia. Since there is no official document on demarcation of borders. By the way, and not only with the outskirts.
          2. +5
            August 11 2016
            Quote: revnagan
            The force option is not an option. Formally, Crimea is still the territory of Ukraine, so from the point of view of the "world community" there is no corpus delicti in the actions of Ukrainian DRGs



            That is, shooting at people, including from a heavy machine gun, is not a crime?

            And the answer was to be immediately DRG and armored personnel carriers destroyed.
          3. +5
            August 11 2016
            Quote: revnagan
            (by the way, Galicians go to Russia and from Russia to work in echelons still,dirty, smelly, drunk, curse Russia, but go. Maybe it’s time to refuse their services? Do not jump at home!)


            They were slowly "removed" from us as a class ... They got everyone ... Tula region ... hi

            PS When they were in our territory, they did not commensurate the size of their arrogance and our patience ...
            Nobody "spread rot" to them ... They themselves "got sick" ... Russia in general, and the Tula region - in particular, did not "justify their hopes" - there is lard with bacon, vodka with vodka, shit and be rude around and not work ...
        4. +26
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am in favor of an asymmetric approach. And I'll explain why. I, too, like many, want a "Caliber" in the residence of Poroshenko and in the places where the Ukrainian military group is concentrated. But it is better to finally let the Ukrainian economy collapse and get riots on the city streets. For this, even gas does not need to be cut off, violating an obligation to Europe.

          Now is not the situation to wait until their economy itself collapses. Ukrainian saboteurs killed Russian troops on Russian territory. This is a completely different level of responsibility. For this, Russia has the right to ANY retaliation.
          1. +30
            August 11 2016
            Quote: DMB_95
            Now is not the situation to wait until their economy itself collapses. Ukrainian saboteurs killed Russian troops on Russian territory. This is a completely different level of responsibility. For this, Russia has the right to ANY retaliation.


            We have the right, but just use this right, it means giving trump cards to the hands of Kiev puppeteers. They are trying by all means to make Russia an aggressor, but so far without success. And having struck the territory of a neighboring state (by the way, quite deservedly), we automatically fall into the category of aggressors and then all Western mongrels will break the chain, there will be a UN mandate and resolution on Russia's illegal actions. Then we’ll definitely untie their hands, give them just a reason. Now the situation is on the verge of May-June 1941, we need only an official and more or less specious pretext for an attack on the Russian Federation. All this is very similar, although maybe I'm wrong! May God grant me to be mistaken!
            1. +3
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Diana Ilyina


              We have the right, but just use this right, it means giving trump cards to the hands of Kiev puppeteers. They are trying by all means to make Russia an aggressor, but so far without success.

              It's like that. Only the aggressor will declare us in any case of the use of force on our part. And if you stubbornly "do not give in to provocations," our opponents will finally become insolent (and not only Banderlog) and sit on our necks.
              1. +10
                August 11 2016
                Quote: DMB_95
                It's like that. Only the aggressor will declare us in any case of the use of force on our part. And if you stubbornly "do not give in to provocations," our opponents will finally become insolent (and not only Banderlog) and sit on our necks.


                Agree. Russia is to blame for them a priori by its very existence! As in Krylov’s fable, it’s your fault that I want to eat ... However, it is not worth rushing things. Although I am a supporter of the war against the Naglosaks, I still should not rush it, we are not ready for it to the full, however, as we were not ready for the WWII and WWII. However, the result of these wars is known to everyone! I’m only afraid that after the Third World War, there will be no winners ...!
                1. +12
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  however, as we were not ready for WWII and WWII. However, the result of these wars is known to everyone!

                  Why don't we ourselves respect our history, but demand respect for ourselves? Why WWII, not WWII. Was the USSR preparing specifically for WWII? Why Victory Day, and not as originally - the Victory Day of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War ....? Why is Mannerheim's board in St. Petersburg and Kolchak's board will be? Why is the ebncenter studying the question of perpetuating the memory of the traitor Vlasov and other "heroes" who fought with weapons against the Soviet regime? That the brainworm epidemic struck the Russian Federation?
                  1. 0
                    August 11 2016
                    I asked and wrote like the others: why on November 4 and not on November 7, after all, the Poles left the Kremlin on the night of November 6-7 according to the new style? And then I dug around and found that "Aleksey Mikhailovich decided to celebrate the" Day of the liberation of Moscow from the Poles on the Day of the celebration of the icon of the Kazan Mother of God ", that is, on November 4. For me, the question was closed, since no one in history has canceled this decree, even in times The government, based on their historical and political situation, decided to celebrate "Victory Day" on May 9, which means that it is not for us to resist them. Although I would like to poke Japan's nose every year, "signed a surrender on Missouri, do not blame." the law, the law is harsh, but it was written in blood and it must be obeyed. And what is gratifying that last year the president took part in the celebration of “Victory in World War II.”
                2. +2
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  we were not ready for WWII

                  As for your statement about the readiness of the Russian Empire for the First World War, I would like to say: LEARN THE MATCH
                  1. +1
                    August 11 2016
                    Quote: Cynic
                    about the readiness of the Russian Empire for the First World War, t

                    In fact, it was written "about the NOT readiness of the Russian Empire." You twist with mate, fate.
                3. +4
                  August 11 2016
                  The third world war is already in full swing. The Poles did not know the same in 1939 that the Second World War began, since legally it became "World War" after the United States entered the war. Now the US army is fighting in Asia, in Europe, helping to overthrow the "dictators" in Africa ... South America and Australia are still aside. I almost forgot ... and Antarctica, but it does not count, it did not participate in a single war, except for the defeat of an American aircraft carrier squadron off the coast of Antarctica in 1947. It's just not clear who staged this massacre, since they were drowned with weapons, which are not in any army in the world even now. And the World War was over by that time. The world war is already underway ...
                4. +1
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  we are not ready for it fully, however, as we were not ready for the WWII and WWII. However, the result of these wars is known to everyone! I’m only afraid that after the Third World War, there will be no winners ...!



                  Unfortunately, now we are ready for such a war even worse ...
                  We would have been at least 20-30 years old, at least, because they wouldn’t give it, adversaries ...

                  PS It seems to me that the Anglo-Saxons are very sorry that they did not physically ditch Russia in the late 90s - early zero ...
                5. +3
                  August 12 2016
                  We are ready for war. Our trump card is sleeping peacefully in the mines, ready to pierce the heights at any given time. Thanks to Soviet scientists and designers for the clear sky over our Motherland.
              2. +1
                August 11 2016
                Quote: DMB_95
                Only the aggressor will declare us in any case the use of force on our part.


                Well, with the self-blasting of the whole Ukrogopot after another provocation? This will not be interpreted by aggression?

                Who prevents them from organizing provocations with the shooting of their positions and with numerous victims, as they do in the Donbass?
              3. +2
                August 11 2016
                Quote: DMB_95
                And if you stubbornly "do not give in to provocations"

                But time is working for us, and many in the West already see contradictions in what politicians say and what is happening in the world. You just need to be more attentive to everyone, not to dismiss what seems suspicious. Here is just one problem: we are gradually fixing the roads, but it is more difficult to fix fools in power and in the police. Once I read one thought expressed by a veteran, but even before the war: "We are all the same. We will be subordinated to ... full, and instead of chasing him in the neck, we poison him to advanced training courses - just to be away from ourselves And then, lo and behold, this is b .. well, and this boss is already above me. " Why am I writing this? Such an example from life. I am resting in full outfit, in the coastal park of the resort town, I do not hurt anyone, I digest kebabs and pivtso, and then some squishy grunt comes over me and starts asking for money. Well, I sent him, of course, politely, saying that I don't give him for vodka. And he told me: "Buy a gerych!" I sent him even further and as soon as he left I called the police. Of course, they arrived in hot pursuit; they did not find anyone in the park. And they began to verbally assert that I am full ... because "he will sell a kidney for two grams of herch, so it won't be enough." But then on TV they said that after a call about the possession of two grams of heroin he was arrested .... We are called to be vigilant, but the police officers themselves, if you turn to them, will look at them ... They do not like when such things are reported to them, you have to break away from chess.
              4. +1
                August 11 2016
                Quote: DMB_95

                It's like that. Only the aggressor will declare us in any case, the use of force on our part



                Hmm ... and Hee ... So we have long been declared the aggressor ... Without any ...
                And if you believe the reports of the outskirts of the Moscow region and the military steering, so the Russian troops should be destroyed long ago ... wassat

                PS If we sum up all the "Russian" losses over 2,5 years ...
            2. +7
              August 11 2016
              Russia is and will be an "aggressor" in any case, even if it uses force against the invading Ukrainian gangs, because Crimea is still the "world community" WISHES to consider the territory of Ukraine, which means that the military actions of Ukraine in Crimea will only be recognized protection of territorial integrity.
              The Bible says "do not throw pearls in front of pigs", for me personally, already in 14, it was clear that pigs came to power in Kiev according to their spiritual and moral order, it turned out to be more expensive for me to recognize this power and play diplomatic games with them, for this time they strengthened, even more fooling their population in an anti-Russian spirit, enlisted the support of foreign sponsors. All these OSCE, Minsk giveaway games are a serious miscalculation of our government and a big headache for Russia today. In international diplomacy, judo or karate techniques do not always work, it would be necessary then to act more decisively, in the southeast of Ukraine, to provide political and organizational support to the pro-Russian forces in other regions where they mattered.The events of the winter of 14 are a clear aggression our "partners" against Russia, and the best form of defense is attack, not defensiveness. And we will be an aggressor for the "world community" by anyone, if only because we live, breathe and exist on this planet.
              1. +15
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Svidetel 45
                The Bible says "do not throw pearls in front of pigs"

                Beads are different
            3. +3
              August 11 2016
              Diana, you are wrong: "the situation is on the verge of May-June 1941, only an official and more or less plausible pretext is needed .." In 1941, Stalon was afraid of war: the USSR was not ready! In my opinion, now nobody will fit in for Kiev: 1) the Ukrainians, although they are puffed up, are like a frog with an angle, so they are. The LPNR can start active actions, and we can not hesitate to "help" with technology. 2In the US elections and the orangutan is not interested in fighting. But Berlin and Paris do not care about Kiev.
              1. +9
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Monarchist
                "In 1941, Stalon was afraid of war: the USSR was not ready

                And now the situation is different, in this you are right. Really different ... We can seize the territory of Ukraine. But it is necessary to arrange scorched earth in these territories. Are you ready for this? Or we will get someone who Chechnya nineties seem paradise.
                Why do we need all this? In response, it is necessary, not choosing too much, to send half a million Ukrainians who have come to work. And close the border in front of the rest of the zarobitchans. The effect will be instant ... Unfortunately, it seems that someone from those who steers the government makes money on Ukrainian hands. Otherwise, this measure would have already been applied ...
                1. 0
                  August 11 2016
                  at ... bat and arrange enough ceremonies with enemies at the wrong time. at 45, the result on the face was ceremonial; they already forgot about everything. kaaak gasping for strategic objects and even let out of breath.
                2. 0
                  August 11 2016
                  If there is an invasion from the side, there will be huge losses to the attackers. Both Russia and Ukraine must understand this.
              2. +5
                August 11 2016
                Yes, you are already tired of June 41, The situation is not even close, first and last! Then there was no weapon capable of turning the whole world into dust! Do you think the bourgeoisie (those who are in power there) do not want to live in the West or do not like their "junk" (nine-digit bank accounts and property on all kinds of coasts)? More than their lives, they love only their "stuff" and power. They fight, rob and kill in the name of their power. Now they are just as unprepared for war as we are, and even more they are not ready for a war of "total" extermination. Therefore, all sorts of "guest workers" appear in the form of ISIS, Uronazi Dobrobats, etc., because they cannot involve their armies under any scenario. That is why they poke their missile defense system wherever possible, in general, they are afraid to act decisively, they are even more afraid of a decisive response and therefore create information noise so that a potential victim would even be afraid to twitch. Have you forgotten about all kinds of "red lines" in Syria? Where is this vaunted NATO led by the Jedi? Are the excavators bombed? Who shot down the Su-24? USA, European Union? Erdogan knocked down the six and decided to drain him. So much for June 41st. If we do not want to flow around constantly, then we need to create our own "screen". Start supporting "not officially" any IRA or ETA, and let them wreak havoc in the ranks of the enemy. The enemy must be beaten, beaten and beaten by all means and methods.
              3. +1
                August 11 2016
                Monarchist,
                Quote: Monarchist
                You are wrong: "the situation is on the brink

                1940 may repeat itself: very few people know that volunteers from Sweden and Norway fought on the side of "Finn, Landia" and the British were preparing a landing through Sweden, who did not have time to "praz (d) no table" because of the signing of the peace. The peace was signed only because Germany refused to help Finland, bound first by the "Pact: Ribbentrop - Molotov", and then by the "Treaty on Peace and Good Neighborly Relations", after which trade agreements were signed on the supply of industrial equipment to the USSR and purchases weapons from Germany. And if there was no "Pact: Ribbentrop - Molotov" and Germany would have provided Finland with military assistance, then the English landing would have arrived through Sweden - Germany and England would have become allies in the war against the USSR, and the North American States of America would have stood up for England. That would be a paradox! Japan would be our ally.
            4. +2
              August 11 2016
              You, dear, are 95% right, except for one "And having struck a blow on the territory of a neighboring state", legally there is no such state, from the point of view of the UN, I will not go into details, the outskirts are the republic of Russia, which is the successor of the USSR. I'm too lazy to press the buttons, look for this confirmation. But the first thing that comes is there is no delineation of the state border, and so on. And all the states surrounding the outskirts are asleep and see Hungary, Austria, Poland, and Russia regain their territory.
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                The outskirts forgot that it had expanded its borders at the expense of the power of the USSR, but thereby received enemies in the form of neighbors.
                Quote: Berkut752
                the states surrounding the outskirts are asleep and see Hungary, Romania, and Poland returning their territory.
                Corrected a little: Austria does not border the outskirts. And Russia already does not need anything there.
                1. -1
                  August 12 2016
                  You are absolutely right, now, these are two different states, but then it was Austria-Hungary, which existed in 1867-1918.
            5. -1
              August 11 2016
              and I’m looking from the side so I think kaaaak groan on the junta. and these in the west will puff and fade. and they are nobody against Russia. pardon. They can’t raise Russia.
              1. +4
                August 11 2016
                Quote: VOLOD
                kaaaak groan on the junta

                I read this lieutenant and remember "Yeralash": "Let's go to this bespectacled man ... and how we'll hit it." "And if he hits us?" "And what is it for us ??? !!"
            6. +1
              August 11 2016
              And what will the Americans do in return !? Will they declare war on us? And the fact that Russia attacked ukroin about this and so everyone repeats all the way, another weather charge will not do.
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                The Americans are not stupid, and not stupid in this matter ... they will simply give money for the war with us to the states that border the Outskirts and thus will climb to return their lost lands. And it is not a fact that we will get a "meeting on the Dnieper" with the allies, we can get a "meeting on the Bug" with future enemies in the war.
            7. 0
              August 12 2016
              Diana, you have correctly written everything: it reminds of the situation before the war and very much. By the way, even the behavior of Putin V.V., showing hellish restraint, like Stalin. But the reason is essentially the same - there is not enough time to complete the rearmament and modernize the economy - Russia is at the beginning of the journey. Well, if forced to act, then it seems to me all this shoble headed by the United States does not seem enough.
            8. 0
              August 12 2016
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Quote: DMB_95
              Now is not the situation to wait until their economy itself collapses. Ukrainian saboteurs killed Russian troops on Russian territory. This is a completely different level of responsibility. For this, Russia has the right to ANY retaliation.


              We have the right, but just use this right, it means giving trump cards to the hands of Kiev puppeteers. They are trying by all means to make Russia an aggressor, but so far without success. And having struck the territory of a neighboring state (by the way, quite deservedly), we automatically fall into the category of aggressors and then all Western mongrels will break the chain, there will be a UN mandate and resolution on Russia's illegal actions. Then we’ll definitely untie their hands, give them just a reason. Now the situation is on the verge of May-June 1941, we need only an official and more or less specious pretext for an attack on the Russian Federation. All this is very similar, although maybe I'm wrong! May God grant me to be mistaken!

              That's right, just to be terpils, we also passed in May - June 41. maybe it's time to draw conclusions?
            9. 0
              August 12 2016
              The attack on Russia is the beginning of the third world thermonuclear war. Maximum - recall of ambassadors, a complete break in economic ties and disconnection from swift.
          2. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: DMB_95
            For this, Russia has the right to ANY retaliation.

            What do you think: who then unleashed the Winter War? Apparently Stalin had no right to ANY retaliatory measures? But will Putin have the opportunity to justify himself before world history if he takes retaliatory measures. Yes, the whole West will not see our dead at close range ... they will say, but it was not like that. And the new de..mocrats will come to power, with our "and without us, the government will choose what else to go to the elections," and they will also not notice those killed during the liquidation of "peaceful tourists", "who opened fire, because they thought it was terrorists are attacking them. "
          3. +1
            August 11 2016
            Quote: DMB_95
            For this, Russia has the right to ANY retaliation.



            Hmm ... It would be more careful ... Is that to bomb nuclear weapons in Kiev ???

            It has already been clearly stated: there can be no conversation with those who are now "at the helm" ...
            And the best way to solve the problem peacefully is through economic ...
            Are we enemies and aggressors? Yes, please ... We are ending all relations with you ...

            And about the fact that supposedly WE should think about the inhabitants of the DNI and LC, I already wrote above ...
            And Russia helps, and wisely - it is possible, with the help of Russia, to use their economic potential, which is not limited to coal alone ...
            1. 0
              August 12 2016
              Quote: weksha50
              Hmm ... It would be more careful ... Is that to bomb nuclear weapons in Kiev ???

        5. DPZ
          +1
          August 11 2016
          it is too long a journey. we have been walking on it since the 14th year. it's time to change it.
        6. +2
          August 11 2016
          It is necessary to do something with the border crossings in the Crimea of ​​Ukrainian tourists more than from the Russian Federation and such a mass is not easy to check, it can enter visas for them or a special inspection register, there was or is a security officer or a member of the ATO or relatives of the participants to close the entrance, just not soiled and from the LPR and DPR, let the rest rest in Poland.
        7. -1
          August 11 2016
          You are too radical, "caliber" in the residence. Nowadays, there are other times, different methods, and believe me, no less intelligible. Otherwise, you are right. For their part, the Geyropeans did what they could, set export quotas, destroyed all kinds of industry, and "dirtied" their brains. In one word, zrada (the word is probably Polish), as they say. They have, because there is no and never have been such a people, Ukrainians, were in every country, the outskirts, Hungary, Austria, Poland, Russia. They cut off allotments of land from all these states, wanted "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always" Chernomyrdin VS
        8. 0
          August 11 2016
          Hmm, Parashenko you have through O, and the collapse through A and without the second A, very subtle humor?
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Cynic
            Parashenko

            Potroshenko, Yaytsenyukh, Tormoshenko and so on.
        9. +1
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          let the Ukrainian economy collapse and get riots on the streets.

          ... but 3,14ndos think differently.
          They will never let you completely collapse. They will keep the "mad dog" on a starvation diet without letting it die naturally ...
          This is almost a free weapon against us.
          At any moment they need, they will "let them off the leash."

          In short, Russia NEEDS A CARDINAL DECISION.
          And it seems they approached him. And they gave / will give the WAY in the near future ...
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Rus2012
            They will never let you completely collapse. They will keep the "mad dog" on a starvation diet without letting it die naturally ...

            You think too well about americococax - they will support the junta as long as there is some benefit.

            And as soon as - and right away. They will also make surprised eyes and declare - we warmed them, and they are so-and-so - give it, we will hit them first ... laughing
            1. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: iConst
              You think too well about americococax - they will support the junta as long as there is some benefit.

              The benefit for the United States is an advanced, ready-made striking force!
              It is a sin to lose this because of the collapse and death of the state. Therefore, they will keep it until the moment "H".
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Rus2012
                Quote: iConst
                You think too well about americococax - they will support the junta as long as there is some benefit.

                The benefit for the United States is an advanced, ready-made striking force!
                It is a sin to lose this because of the collapse and death of the state. Therefore, they will keep it until the moment "H".

                Now you think too badly about americococax - they are far from idiots. But they can’t calculate everything.

                Believe me, they do not build illusions about the combat abilities of their experimental subjects. The maximum is a provocation.
                But it seems that Russia does not give a reason to "substitute".

                So what about "H" you are right.
        10. -5
          August 11 2016
          How to "Just give a command to the LDNR", can simply give a command to the RF Armed Forces to start hostilities, or whatever it takes to start a nuclear war ... smile
          1. MMX
            0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: pancir
            How to "Just give a command to the LDNR", can simply give a command to the RF Armed Forces to start hostilities, or whatever it takes to start a nuclear war ... smile


            Ukraine has nuclear weapons?!?
            Do not flatter yourself, because of Ukraine, the third world will not begin.
        11. -3
          August 11 2016
          Blackberry is right, since we cannot give such an order - they are not our puppets and do not obey us. To give such an order means to designate oneself as the instigator of the confrontation between Donetsk and Lugansk and official Kiev. Then we will catch up with the United States, which carry pies to the Maidan, officially declaring, "We have nothing to do with it !!!"
        12. +1
          August 11 2016
          I suspect that one of the development options may be the "Georgian option". The Americans will "turn on the fool", they will begin to say that Ukrainians are white and fluffy, and Merkel and her "comrades" will pick up on this. One of the reasons is the growing tendency to end sanctions in the EU countries, a new upsurge in the construction of Gazprom's "gas flows", the loss of US influence in the Syrian situation, and the failure to achieve the desired goals in the "Olympic business." The main task of the United States is to drive these issues into a dead end again, to make Russia a monster again. At the same time, Western media will work according to the Georgian version. The task is to change the government in Russia to a "manual" government with all the ensuing consequences. The Cold War never dreamed of ending. Hypocrisy, lies and deceit are the main methods of US policy.
          1. +1
            August 12 2016
            Well, what was required to prove. The United States and its subordinates pretended that there was nothing on the part of Ukraine in Crimea, that it was Russia who fired in the direction of Ukraine and organized a provocation, and now Russia should be roughly punished for what it is "doing" in Crimea and on the border with Ukraine and to impose even tougher measures and sanctions.
            According to Joe Biden, Russia by its actions in Crimea and eastern Ukraine "violates previously established principles," namely, the sovereignty and inviolability of borders. It is because of this that the states have activated all allies in Europe in order to make Moscow pay for their actions, as well as to make it understand that the onslaught will continue until the agreements within the Normandy Four are fulfilled.

            And Russians need to be quietly killed, as suggested by the CIA. The hysteria continues.
        13. +2
          August 11 2016
          Not only the heating stations will stop, but the whole steel mill ... blast furnaces ... since there is coke coming from the Kuzbass ... it’s just impossible to leave it like that .. otherwise there will be other provocations .. sanctions must be tough .. there is still fuel for nuclear reactors. .da here are also TPPs built for a specific type of coal, and it is unlikely that there is a consumer nearby in Russia .. but I repeat only with harsh sanctions you can at least somehow influence ..
        14. 0
          August 11 2016
          It would be nice, but it won’t work. buy coal from others for sponsorship money
        15. 0
          August 12 2016
          If asymmetric, then it is not necessary to shut off coal supplies. Officially redeem everything that is available in the Donbass for a year in advance. And all the same, turn off the gas, but not now, but with the first frosts, due to the elimination of technical problems. Introduce visas, check all Ukrainians and immigrants from Ukraine for involvement in the Maidan and the ATO, the Nazis - out of Russia.
        16. 0
          August 12 2016
          Absolutely true!
          It is necessary to do everything so that they bite themselves
      2. 0
        August 11 2016
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: Hunter
        No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent!

        Mad dogs are shot, we do not have all the information, but there will be something serious.

        Theme is strange:
        - they say that they checked the signal and stumbled upon 20 (!) people, and they arrested 7. Where is 13?
        - they say that they were sitting in ambush at the caches with weapons - then why such losses ..?
        - they say about the hurricane shelling by armored vehicles of our territory.
        - they say that there is only one tank and only from a machine gun ...
        - they say that they wanted to mine the track.
        - they say that to disperse the tourists ...
        In short - there really is no information.
        Obama really needs to stir up some successful topic before leaving.
        Preferably military and victorious.
        I hope that I will do without.
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          If the investigator sees that all the witnesses to the crime report the same thing, then he, according to all the rules, understands that there is collusion among themselves and consistency in the testimony. even the color of the car each person sees, and even more so accepts, in his own way. Journalists they are the last yap, you tell them one thing, they write their own, as they need. I saw it myself on TV: there is a journalist at the burned-out M-48, which Iran had in service and says: "Does Russia need such tanks that burn dozens of them, here we see a whole column of Soviet tanks in service with Iran." Of course, we don't need such tanks, because they were never in service with the USSR. But how many people can tell the M-48 from a Soviet tank? And people believe. I am not in the least surprised by the discord. As long as there is no censor at least in the display of political issues in newspapers and on television, you will collect the truth bit by bit.
      3. +1
        August 11 2016
        At a minimum, massive fire throughout the adjoining territory of Benderstan, to places of accumulation of militants and terrorists until they are completely destroyed from all types of weapons
        Crazy cabbage on the flipper ...
        Tired of tolerant
        1. +14
          August 11 2016
          Dear forum users! You are all sane people, except for a few narcissistic "strategists." Let us, all the same, leave the Supreme Command to foreign policy and the leadership of the Armed Forces. I perfectly understand and share the fair anger, since de facto on the part of Ukraine these are military actions on the territory of another state.
          But our VGK is not so straightforward. The conflict with Turkey showed this - Erdogan literally crawled and already agreed on everything. True, the President of Turkey in terms of state thinking is an order of magnitude higher than the Maidan chicks.
          I don’t want to offer my own ways to solve the problem, because I don’t even have a hundredth share of the information that the President appears every morning, but I think that everything will start with the visa regime and restrictions on the work of Ukrainians in Russia. And on the second, perhaps, Novorossia ...
          1. -7
            August 11 2016
            he didn’t return the pilot with his trepidation. to me he would c .. crawled after all this trouble. hell would crawl away at all. in a place with Turkey and Kurdistan.
        2. +6
          August 11 2016
          Quote: mishaia_23
          At a minimum, massive fire throughout the adjoining territory of Benderstan, to places of accumulation of militants and terrorists until they are completely destroyed from all types of weapons
          When warehouses with weapons on ukroterritoriy explode and enchanting "themselves ignite" also nothing.
      4. +10
        August 11 2016
        About the events in the Crimea, or what to do with Kiev mad dog?

        This is a rhetorical question, the answer has long been known, the same as what they do with a rabid dog, knock tight.
        How? This is a question for the FSB, the gru and the leadership of the country. By the way, economic methods in this situation are preferable to power methods. I recall an old Jewish proverb: a blow to a pocket is more sensitive than a blow to a bread Yes
      5. +8
        August 11 2016
        They won’t give ONE ONE! I hope everyone understands whose only in detention there is a chance to set lead points.
      6. 0
        August 11 2016
        An old joke takes on new colors in this context:
        - Volodya, you dog for how much you @ * eat?
        - Minutes for 3-4, but what?
        Someone will soon try on a wooden mac on their skin. am
        1. 0
          August 11 2016
          I walk my dog ​​for 30 minutes in fine weather and 10 minutes in the rain.
      7. 0
        August 11 2016
        Quote: cniza
        Rabid dogs shoot
        ...
        there will be something serious.


        Quote: Author Volodin Alexey
        The owner is not going to negotiate on specific issues, well ... this is his right.


        ... option - fill up the owner! This will solve very many problems in the world ...
      8. 0
        August 11 2016
        something serious is it after milk and pickles women vali Yes . and ours are boring and that's it. possoyut. let go. there are no casualties among civilians. did they say that? they will say so. and the soldier seems to be not a man. it is possible different but this world is governed not by (UN) but by the place of headquarters of the apartment (UN). like (mok) and wada. request
      9. -1
        August 12 2016
        Quote: cniza
        we do not have all the information


        Evgeny Panov. Who is he?
        The FSB of the Russian Federation found out that Panov is an employee of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

        Saboteur. GRU.

        Now look at him
        https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/206/qkxe814.jpg
        With a mass of 120 kilograms, it does not look like a person will be in the group from the GRU of Ukraine.

        Now discovered the tent in which they were. Its color is of course very suitable for a diversionary group :) Well, of course, it turned out to be exactly that tent :)
        https://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/384/usob947.jpg

        There have been many similar situations in history. My opinion is: This is one such story.

        Well, the interrogation video .. I think there are methods, ways, family and more that can make a person say a lot. I can’t say exactly anything here. But I do not believe in this story.
    2. avt
      +27
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      No response can not be left!

      The guarantor said - we will not leave.
      Quote: Hunter
      Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent!

      laughing This type you advise Putin? laughing Or do you require?
      Another thing is that the Russian president immediately after the publication of official information about the attempt to break through indicated the answer: there will not be any Norman, and, therefore, Minsk format, which have recently become a non-working formality. Then the question is: what will happen?
      Many of them would like to know. Well, many will know. On time, or in a timely manner. It’s time to get used to the fact that the GDP is carefully preparing the response actions before undertaking it, weighing all the risks as far as possible.
      1. +7
        August 11 2016
        Quote: avt
        The guarantor said - we will not leave.

      2. +8
        August 11 2016
        And I advise and demand! I live in Tyumen and do not want the war to come to my house! It is better to strangle in the bud on distant approaches. I am obligated, if you need help, let them say, but do not hide the information for three days !!! We have a big Ukrainian diaspora here, and even there is a consulate, sit and wait until here, what kind of ghouls will be sent ????
        laughing This type you advise Putin? laughing Or do you require?
        .
        1. avt
          +11
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Hunter
          And I advise and demand!

          Take your time to live. Here
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am in favor of an asymmetric approach. And I'll explain why. I, too, like many, want a "Caliber" in the residence of Poroshenko and in the places where the Ukrainian military group is concentrated.

          The answer, well, in my understanding, should be tough and inevitable in the form of a real PUNISHMENT for trying to implement malicious intent in the form of a terrorist attack, and this really needs to be prepared in order to be carried out quickly and clearly, without regulating ourselves with a time frame until the desired result is achieved, confronting everyone with the inevitability of punishment even for attempting to inflict harm. Otherwise, all this will look like a jerky twitching in response to an irritant. Well, why for the sake of becoming an experimental dog, academician Pavlov, in studying reflexes? Even this punishment in this version will no longer be the goal, but the MEANS of achieving a very specific goal in the Big Game. Cynical? But it’s quite practical for itself, as in Syria at the Khmeimim airbase. bully
          1. +17
            August 11 2016
            Here I looked at the censor, the howls of donkeys during the mating season !!! Calls for terrorist attacks all over Russia! Well, they do not understand diplomacy, but they will become afraid, shut up like beaten mongrel !!!
            1. avt
              +10
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Hunter
              Well, they do not understand diplomacy, but they will become afraid, shut up like beaten mongrel !!!

              Well, this is understandable and predictable. There’s something more interesting in the light of
              Quote: Orionvit
              What can be the relationship of the state with the territory?

              Putin has already designated himself as a STATE in the territory, calling the same Lugansk REPUBLIC. In fact, not for Kiev, his speech was, but for EuroPeitsiv - companions in the "Norman format." -Osetian .... format with all the consequences of this "road map". bully
              1. +1
                August 11 2016
                Yes, I agree with you! I am tormented by the question why they were silent for three days ???? Were not ready or did not understand the situation ???
                1. +4
                  August 11 2016
                  I think that they simply disclosed the entire diversionary network according to the data received in Armenian
                2. avt
                  +8
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Hunter
                  I am tormented by the question why they were silent for three days

                  request Well, to begin with, it was generally necessary to bring the operation to a logical, at least intermediate, completion. And not to put on a show like in Moscow under Nord Ost, when the COLONEL ASKS the journalist to come out of the cordon, and he is on air - "You see, I'm working." wassat Then it was necessary to solve the question HOW, on WHAT media background GDP will be and most importantly WHAT to voice. In my opinion, the picture of his speech combined with the press conference of Sargsyan turned out to be quite significant good His statements were very well combined, seemingly as STATING an event in the form of an answer to a question. BUT at the same time, it’s quite official in tone and in the surroundings that does not give the slightest reason to doubt the officiality, and not the randomness of words and the meaning invested in them. Nobody will convince me - it was submitted LITERALLY. good
                  1. +7
                    August 11 2016
                    Quote: avt
                    it was filed LITERALLY

                    Right now, in Kiev, with aspiration, they will monitor each performance of the GDP ... wassat
                    And the Great Culinary cook will prepare a cold dish of revenge ... Yes
                3. +4
                  August 11 2016
                  This is a respected, highlight of diplomacy. When everyone speaks out, declare how everything was in fact with the evidence. You are probably young and do not know what Khrushchev did with Paurs, you were silent at first, and when the United States announced that the USSR had shot down a US meteorological probe. And all of their mongrel barked, he spoke out and presented Paurs. For everyone there was a shock, in the truest sense of the word.
            2. +1
              August 11 2016
              They will call for revenge for the scolded land and the murdered brothers. There will be graves to dig with trenchers in three shifts for their soldiers, but they will not back down, as there will be examples of how someone on a foreign car has returned. It was just yesterday that there were fields in trenches under the graves and robberies with the help of machine guns.
        2. 0
          August 11 2016
          Hunter-lover, for a start, calm down: although there is a large diaspora there, but Kiev does not have the strength to start at the same time, and Tyumen is interesting for them than Crimea, Krasnodar, Rostov. Consider the "unreliable" ones, and most importantly, make sure that the "tourists" do not hang around where the "sweet" objects are. FSB means this point
    3. +6
      August 11 2016
      Rabies is not a curable disease, but I don’t know what specifically to advise. Russia's relations with Ukraine are so bad that it is difficult to advise anything at the diplomatic level, because this level has fallen below the baseboard. You can put pressure on them through Dombass.
      1. +13
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Blackberry
        Rabies is not a curable disease, but I don’t know what specifically to advise. Russia's relations with Ukraine are so bad that it is difficult to advise anything at the diplomatic level, because this level has fallen below the baseboard. You can put pressure on them through Dombass.

        H! Donbass. From the words Don (river) and the pool.
        There are many options to omit used. It is possible and necessary to introduce visas and expel all hohlogasters back - this is several million and minus several billion in the economy.
        Used and now has a maximum export / import with Russia: 20%. Interrupting it for three months is still minus 2 yards from the economy ... There are many options.
        I think now they are choosing how to bend all this cattle-like (forgive me pigs) herd.
        1. +4
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Bramb
          Quote: Blackberry
          Rabies is not a curable disease, but I don’t know what specifically to advise. Russia's relations with Ukraine are so bad that it is difficult to advise anything at the diplomatic level, because this level has fallen below the baseboard. You can put pressure on them through Dombass.

          H! Donbass. From the words Don (river) and the pool.
          There are many options to omit used. It is possible and necessary to introduce visas and expel all hohlogasters back - this is several million and minus several billion in the economy.
          Used and now has a maximum export / import with Russia: 20%. Interrupting it for three months is still minus 2 yards from the economy ... There are many options.
          I think now they are choosing how to bend all this cattle-like (forgive me pigs) herd.

          Vladimir, everyone has mistakes, I saw somewhere, in some comments, that they write so illiterately "Dombass" and began to make the same mistake. Thank you for delicately hinting me about my mistake in spelling the word Donbass. hi
        2. +3
          August 11 2016
          The name Donets Basin comes from the geographical name Donets Ridge, which in turn was established after the work of Ye. P. Kovalevsky “Experience of geognostic research in the Donetsk mountain range” (1827) and “Geognostic survey of the Donetsk mountain range” (1829) [


          From 1869 to 1923 the city (Donetsk) was called Yuzovka, in honor of its founder - businessman John Hughes (Hughes, Hughes).

          On April 22, 1924, by the decision of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, the city of Yuzovka was given the name Stalin [12]. In the late 1920s - early 1930s, without official orders, the city began to be called Stalin [13].

          On November 9, 1961 [14], the name of 1932-1938 (Donetsk region) was returned to the Stalin Region, given to it along the Seversky Donets River, and its center, the city of Stalin, was given the name Donetsk, despite the fact that the city itself was not It is located even in the river basin, and that since 1955 another city of Donetsk already existed, located in the Rostov region of the RSFSR on the river Donets.
        3. +10
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Bramb
          Donbass. From the words Don (river) and the pool.


          I apologize, but not from the word Don (river), but from the word Donets Basin, abbreviated Donbass! Don flows north, and there flows Seversky Donets, my native river!
          1. +3
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Quote: Bramb
            Donbass. From the words Don (river) and the pool.


            I apologize, but not from the word Don (river), but from the word Donets Basin, abbreviated Donbass! Don flows north, and there flows Seversky Donets, my native river!

            This refers to the Donetsk coal basin. As is the case, for example, with the Russian Kuzbass.
            1. +7
              August 11 2016
              Quote: GSH-18
              This refers to the Donetsk coal basin. As is the case, for example, with the Russian Kuzbass.


              That's right.
        4. +2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Bramb
          Don (river) and pool

          hi Sorry, I will correct:
          From the name of the river Donets (Seversky)))). Somehow.
          drinks
          1. +2
            August 11 2016
            Quote: papik09
            Quote: Bramb
            Don (river) and pool

            hi Sorry, I will correct:
            From the name of the river Donets (Seversky)))). Somehow.
            drinks


            But I'm not going to edit anything. And I will say that in 1983 we went down the Seversky Donets to Voroshilovgrad with a cheerful company on the Taimen-2 kayaks. During a honeymoon trip, surrounded by the same young optimists, like my wife and I. And everything was beautiful and rosy. And the water in the river was clear (not like now), and there was an aura of love and euphoria around.
            And now ... After all, in a nightmare I would not have dreamed ...
      2. +3
        August 11 2016
        Russian relations with Ukraine are so bad
        What kind of relationship can a state have with a territory? All the same, the West has achieved what it has been striving for for almost three years, namely to pull Russia out of itself. Indeed, even in the event of a military solution to the Ukrainian problem, Russia, by and large, does not lose anything. The stench from the West, and especially the young "democracies", will be much more, but it would be time to get used to it and send everyone away.
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      4. 0
        August 11 2016
        No offense, the word Donbass is spelled H, Donbass
    4. +31
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent

      Putin said in diplomatic language, but here’s Igor Korotchenko’s translation: If Petro Poroshenko’s regime, which came to power as a result of a coup d’etat, doesn’t eliminate the militant camps deployed in Ukraine, Russia will have the right to launch missile strikes against them. This was announced to "PolitNavigator" by Russian military expert Igor Korotchenko, editor of the National Defense magazine, commenting on the FSB’s message about an attempt to break Ukrainian saboteurs into the Crimea. I believe that the FSB agencies operating in the territory of the Russian Crimea took all necessary measures to find detention, and, in the event of resistance, the destruction of Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups. In this situation, Russia should formally notify Ukraine of the need to stop terrorist and sabotage activities directed against the Russian Federation and close the corresponding centers and camps for the training of terrorists and saboteurs. The goals and objectives of which are sabotage directed against the Russian Federation and its citizens. If Ukraine does not take any action to close these camps, in accordance with international law, Russia has every right to launch rocket attacks on the camps of international terrorists operating on the territory of Ukraine.
      We will do what the United States does. It all complies with international law and the UN Charter. Russia has the right to self-defense. And we can regard the sending of sabotage groups as the armed aggression of Ukraine against the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences, ”Korotchenko said.
      1. +11
        August 11 2016
        the closure of relevant centers and camps for the training of terrorists and saboteurs
        What centers, what camps? These are not fanatics, but full-time employees of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, and acted in full accordance with the officially military doctrine of Kiev in relation to Russia. If anyone else does not know, then according to Poroshenko, Ukraine has been officially fighting with Russia for more than two years. The day now comes when Russia will have to respond adequately.
    5. +2
      August 11 2016
      what is the answer? also to sabotage the diversion сами they themselves will begin to blow up and bring everything down on us. positions on the line should be destroyed. planned. to get satellite intelligence. to provide info and target coordinates. only so. so far there will be more than one Svidomo on the demarcation line
      1. +5
        August 11 2016
        The usual technique .... Americans ...
        Before an important meeting of the top leaders of Russia with the top leaders of other countries. Who are hurt the interests of the United States. Events are interconnected (correlated) in time and purpose ..
        - on the night of the 6th to the 7th of August 2016, a group of saboteurs was discovered in the region of the city of Armyansk, Crimea.
        -9 Aug meeting Putin and Erdogan
        - and Turkey's red card, another explosion in Turkey…. “On Wednesday, August 10, in the evening in southern Turkey, there were two explosions - in the provinces of Mardin and Diyarbakir. This is reported by "DS" with reference to Hurriyet ... ""

        Another question.-Could Kiev personally decide on this? .. without a pointing finger and consent ..
        1. 0
          August 11 2016
          Quote: 222222
          could Kiev personally decide on this?

          More precisely, find financing for it all wink
    6. +16
      August 11 2016
      -Form of 4 dosvidaniya (more precisely, goodbye)
      - Head of the LC ...
      -Lugansk People's Republic ...
      -Captured power in Ukraine

      This is for starters, at least it is planned to recognize the LPR and the DPR ... Yes, it is possible and NECESSARY to respond already to open aggression. The main thing now is not to make mistakes (I'm not talking about the whining of the State Department and prostitute Europe, which we are honestly saying ... well, what will the next sanctions impose? wassat ) it is simply not necessary to do what is expected of us, not because it is scary, no, but because a lot is at stake. At least the answer from the "bright democracy" will be to feed the "Waltzman partisans" and an attempt to deprive us of the 2018 FIFA World Cup and many more "Nishtyaks" which they will try very hard to do. LET'S MAKE AN ANSWER guys, let's make it so that Waltzman's chocolate eggs fall off and Obama becomes an albino, the main thing is to calculate everything in advance and not later.
      1. +8
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Now we are free
        and an attempt to rob us of the 2018 World Cup and many more

        And without warriors, will we definitely live to 2018?
        1. +11
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And without warriors, will we definitely live to 2018?

          It doesn't seem to work out ....
          And this also fits into the image of "opportunistic Russia", whose inhabitants eat meldonium, washed down with vodka, not forgetting to play the balalaika ...
          If the Mrykans openly declare that
          ... Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, the USA condemns the occupation of Crimea and military operations of Russia in the east of Ukraine ..
          ,
          then any provocation against Crimea, undertaken by Banderostan, will be interpreted similarly as "ATO" in Donbass.
          And it seems that this is not the limit ...
          1. +2
            August 11 2016
            Quote: stalkerwalker

            It doesn't seem to work out ....

            So I think it’s not the stadiums that need to be built now sad
            Ilyich, where have you gone, you haven’t been seen for a hundred years.
            1. +3
              August 11 2016
              Hi Alexander!
              hi
              The work schedule has changed,
              and summer is in the yard - I’m repairing a house in the village ... fellow
              Weed, an infection, grows like bamboo in the tropics. Benzokosa has grown to her hands ... wassat
              1. +1
                August 11 2016
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                - I repair the house in the village.

                And the people reached from the cities back to the village. The house is good. good
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Hi Alexander!

                And you 100 grams for dinner wink
                1. +3
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And the people reached from the cities back to the village. The house is good.

                  In the village today it is better than in the city - peace and quiet, fresh air and "freedom of creativity".
          2. +3
            August 11 2016
            In response, it is necessary to declare to the UN that the state of Texas and some other states are the territory of Mexico and demand their return.
            1. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Svidetel 45
              it is necessary to declare to the UN that the state of Texas and some other states are the territory of Mexico and demand their return.

              I already want to scream and swear loudly and for a long time am You asked Mexico if they need this hemorrhoids? Db!
    7. +2
      August 11 2016
      Yes, Okhotolyub! Command the FSB, Klava is at hand ... Better yet, leave this matter to competent comrades ..
      Quote: Hunter
      No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent! So Svidomysh knew that even for calls for destabilization of the Crimea, the punishment will be one - utilization !!!
    8. +6
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      No response can not be left! Destroy not only those who came, but also those who sent! So Svidomysh knew that even for calls for destabilization of the Crimea, the punishment will be one - utilization !!!

      You can not cross the border with Ukraine. Only this is what the West is waiting for. They need war, Russian aggression. Strengthen the border and vigilance. To ur this..you’re not even close to our border. This is the agony of Ukrainian Svidomo Nazism.
    9. vmo
      +2
      August 11 2016
      Absolutely right! Dispose of like mad dogs!
    10. 0
      August 11 2016
      Jul 28 2016 - The Crimean Federal District is included in the Southern Federal District.
      .......
    11. +1
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      punishment will be one - utilization !!!

      In fact, recycling is already underway. Yesterday’s statement by the president is just what we (ordinary people) know. But even the walls have ears. So, according to information from local residents from the border region of the Kursk region, back in June 2015 (!!!) there was a transition of a sabotage group from Ukraine, which planned terrorist attacks by the Independence Day of Russia. As a result of the transition from six saboteurs, 4 was destroyed, 2 was detained. Moreover, for the capture of saboteurs and subsequent border protection, some dogs were seized from residents.
    12. 0
      August 11 2016
      We have something to answer to these antics. LC and DNR to help us. Get them off the chain, they will reach Kiev.
    13. 0
      August 11 2016
      Friends, and you do not find a direct analogy with a downed attack aircraft? In Syria, the Turkführer tried to draw in NATO by shooting down our attack aircraft. Here, to draw into the territory of Banderkraina, and then tearfully beg of progressive humanity to protect the unfortunate fallen Ukraine from the evil aggressor?
      The animals that prepared the terrorist attacks in Crimea and were stopped at the cost of the lives of two of our soldiers did it consciously, deliberately. All the same, the death penalty is too easy a punishment for them. The public open court in Simferopol at the stadium (if any) as the Nuremberg Tribunal, in live broadcast on the Internet and on TV. They wanted Ukraine to Vladivostok, let them get a life-long single cell in Sakhalin. angry
      Is it possible to have one caliber in the window of the residence of the FSA ambassador in Kuev and one in the residence of the Tsurles in the building of the SBU? You can’t? I’m disappointed, I’m sleeping and I see how I click on the red button — the first one went, I press it once the second one went. Well, then the Buryat equestrian and armored division by parachute and underground on the Khreshchatyk ... oh, they woke up. A neighbor broke such a dream, yo ... wassat
      1. +1
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Balu
        Here, to draw into the territory of Banderkraina, and then tearfully beg of progressive humanity to protect the unfortunate fallen Ukraine from the evil aggressor?

        - Yes, with white thread ...

        I do not cease to express the feeling that there is some kind of crazy rush, since such tricks as tearing off at the Olympics and such a crude provocation in the form of explosions against ordinary people are used.

        I would also understand - against military installations, but ordinary people ...

        In the USSR, the death penalty was ... 25 years in prison. But there was also "exceptional".

        Maybe it’s time, too, to introduce against proven terrorists, and regardless of citizenship - pendos, for example, it does not stop - they only plant Russian citizens at home ...
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: iConst
          I would also understand - against military installations, but ordinary people ...

          Oh, human memory ...
          To recall the hysterical accusations of the FSB liberals for all sins, including the explosion of buildings? By the way, they regularly try to raise this wave, that, that, but they know how to shit shit
          It’s a pity they won’t hear in their address
          You will be taken away from here, hanged by the neck, and you will hang,
          until death comes from this. May the Lord have mercy on your soul!
    14. 0
      August 11 2016
      it is necessary to send a parcel in Donetsk with mines mon 100 -90 and other pranks. until it hurts there is no understanding. love
    15. +2
      August 11 2016
      Russia needs to stir up something like that in the US itself or in its neighbors. Come up with some kind of "peaceful opposition" or some kind of a century-old territorial conflict, and abruptly start to wind up the situation, find or create dissent, do not care what, just to hate America and start supplying them with weapons and instructors.
      Otherwise, you get a one-goal game. Russia, by the will of the United States, is already surrounded by enemies, and continuous provocation goes to American money. At this rate, Ukrainians will soon begin to ride tanks on the border, and on the other hand, the Baltic states. Without countermeasures and without active actions, we will eventually be crushed by the mass ......
  2. +1
    August 11 2016
    It is necessary to resolve the issue with Ukraine and sooner !!
    1. +6
      August 11 2016
      It is necessary to resolve the issue with Ukraine and sooner !!



      I would still know how to decide .... Che, I remembered, there is a guy at the blackboard - "Mary Ivanovna, I taught, but I forgot."
      Eh, I hope there will be excellent students in "our class", and most importantly, that the solution to the problem is still not in imaginary numbers, but in real ones.
    2. +1
      August 11 2016
      I agree! All that’s left is to decide how!
  3. +10
    August 11 2016
    Of course, in order to calm the anger of the people, it would be possible to erase everything military from the other side of the border 200 kilometers deep.
    And there is no need to gossip about "this is what the USA wants."
    And to declare a demilitarized zone along the entire border, including LDNR, in the depth of Ukrogabon, 200-300 km. We have all the rights and opportunities for this.
    1. +6
      August 11 2016
      Peace enforcement...? So there seems to be no war.
      Dumb impudence, equivalent to greed, and inability to calculate the consequences in the basis. Banderlogs were slaves of the Austrians, Poles, Germans. Our brothers didn’t want us. Don’t you brethren banderlogs or dill to us, Chertvas will sort it out and let it pick it up. Slaves of the Macington macaques! FSA macaques will fight you as consumables, fool from Russia to the last dill. Wake up!
      1. +2
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Balu
        Peace enforcement...? So there seems to be no war.

        how not? you listen to the Valtsman and the rest of the "ukroSMI" about the destroyed 100500 armatures, about the completely destroyed SPN GRU and Airborne Forces, etc. from the point of view of Ukraine and all progressive humanity, the small country has been successfully at war with Russia for the second year already.
      2. +2
        August 11 2016
        These creatures will not wake up, brains are flooded with vodka and saturated with fat, can not be treated, only one method remains.
  4. +75
    August 11 2016
    In fact, there was still no answer on our part, but the Censor already has the noise that I last saw in 2014.
    Some are already digging trenches, others are shouting that we won’t last more than a week, while others promise to milk to Moscow and free the Crimea.
    Guys, whoever can do what, you need to pick up a New Year's gift.
    1. PN
      +18
      August 11 2016
      Where to send?
      1. +28
        August 11 2016
        Quote: PN
        Am I ready to send?

        Sergey Zaporizhsky-Ukraine, political scientist, businessman and just a nerd. Dochet dochet to the addressee, send.
        1. +7
          August 11 2016
          Now I’m going to pick up a package from the toilet ..
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: PN
          Am I ready to send?

          Sergey Zaporizhsky-Ukraine, political scientist, businessman and just a nerd. Dochet dochet to the addressee, send.
          1. +15
            August 11 2016
            Quote: dmi.pris
            Now I’m going to pick up a package from the toilet ..

            Oh boys take pity on the mail workers. stop
            1. +14
              August 11 2016
              Quote: ruskih
              Oh boys take pity on the mail workers.

              Sealed packaging, guarantees delivery of the product, without environmental damage to Russian postal workers.
          2. +2
            August 11 2016
            I’ve got a bucket of pzhalst from me, I ask you very much. lol
        2. +5
          August 11 2016
          Something familiar face ... but no surname.
          It looks like an alias or someone substitutes.
          Well, Ukrainians, as always: lying to them is like drinking a glass of tea in the morning.
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            You saw him both at Babayan and at Solovyov. Rare d .... b ..... fool
        3. +2
          August 11 2016
          I believe this one will eat. wassat
        4. +1
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: PN
          Am I ready to send?

          Sergey Zaporizhsky-Ukraine, political scientist, businessman and just a nerd. Dochet dochet to the addressee, send.


          Well, you nerd ... Who would have thought! But such kind eyes ...
          Something tells me that the eyes are no longer a mirror of the soul. At least in Ukraine.
    2. +12
      August 11 2016
      Not. I'm not giving it. There will be all sorts of tricks MY have.
      1. +19
        August 11 2016
        Quote: sergo1914
        Not. I'm not giving it. There will be all sorts of tricks MY have.

        There are people who can’t get snow in the winter, you surpassed them laughing
        1. +6
          August 11 2016
          I am not greedy. I am principled.
      2. 0
        August 11 2016
        Patriot? I understand, respect. [B laughing
    3. +9
      August 11 2016
      After the latest events, Sergey Zaporizhsky until 01.01.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX has not eaten a single bucket of shit!
    4. +3
      August 11 2016
      Sasha, hi! in the sense of helping shit in a bucket? so THIS we are with complete pleasure! Yes, for the sake of such a thing, I will even take 50 gr oleum rizini! Yes
      1. +3
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Viktor Demchenko
        in the sense of helping shit in a bucket? so THIS we are with complete pleasure! d

        Healthy hi Yes, shit it is not for long, it is necessary to deliver it on time. So to say, to the festive table, no later than January 1.
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          in the sense of helping shit in a bucket? so THIS we are with complete pleasure! d

          Healthy hi Yes, shit it is not for long, it is necessary to deliver it on time. So to say, to the festive table, no later than January 1.

          And I would look at your communication with customs about the transported cargo. lol
          1. +3
            August 11 2016
            Quote: ruskih

            And I would look at your communication with customs about the transported cargo.

            When at the customs they find out what it is, to whom, and why, they would be let through green laughing
        2. 0
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          in the sense of helping shit in a bucket? so THIS we are with complete pleasure! d

          Healthy hi Yes, shit it is not for long, it is necessary to deliver it on time. So to say, to the festive table, no later than January 1.

          On hohlotomozhnom can stop lol
        3. +1
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          need to be delivered on time

          Panty business: to the border in a sealed package, and after - "New mail" will even deliver home!)))
    5. +15
      August 11 2016
      Yes there are a lot of shit-eaters. we can fit a couple of shit trucks, otherwise all of a sudden
    6. +4
      August 11 2016
      One bucket is not enough.
    7. 0
      August 11 2016
      Preparing to enter the Guinness Book? the boy said, the boy did. Now get ready, train, temper your will ... laughing
      Tomorrow I’ll go to the village, I will pack a surprise in H in sterile packaging bully New Year.
    8. 0
      August 12 2016
      Tin, Level 80 Maydown
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  6. +9
    August 11 2016
    It's time to put the mad Ukrainian dog to sleep, go at least to spay it! "Meeting in the village council. Chairman:
    - Words asks the former Bandera Panas Golovko.
    Screams from places:
    - Not! Bandera do not give a word!
    “But he wants to speak on an environmental topic.”
    “Then let him speak.”
    - Boys, take care of the forests! They’ll come in handy for you! "
  7. Riv
    +2
    August 11 2016
    I'm still more interested in whose initiative this is with sabotage. Not SBU, obviously. Ukrainian security service under the direct control of the Americans. The army intelligence of Ukraine also did not make the impression of idiots before. Then who? Nationalists?
    We stock up on popcorn ...
    1. +7
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Riv
      Not SBU, obviously

      Oh, and here is another expert who doesn’t know nichrome, but everything is already clear to him.
      1. Riv
        -1
        August 11 2016
        The trick is that no one knows nichrome yet. The reason for organizing terrorist acts was voiced stupid. Well, what is this nonsense - to reduce the number of tourists? August in the yard, had to be reduced six months ago.
        But screams to heaven.
        1. +5
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Riv
          The trick is that no one knows nichrome yet. The reason for organizing terrorist acts was voiced stupid. Well, what is this nonsense - to reduce the number of tourists? August in the yard, had to be reduced six months ago.
          But screams to heaven.

          The thing is that in Russia 24 they are called saboteurs, not terrorists. These are different concepts.
        2. +2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Riv
          The trick is that no one knows nichrome yet.

          Exactly, but despite this, everything is already obvious to you.
          Quote: Riv
          The reason for organizing terrorist acts was voiced stupid.

          Well, you know better, they served the FSB for 40 years?
          Quote: Riv
          But screams to heaven.

          It’s probably strange for you that the most cries are now in Ukraine.
          1. Riv
            +3
            August 11 2016
            No, I just said bluntly that nothing is clear in this matter. If "saboteurs", then the target should be military facilities. What kind? And why do saboteurs need such heroic reserves of explosives? There is no need to blow up a bridge or a railway so much, but a residential building or a sanatorium is just right.

            They were taken by chance, although in theory Perekop should be guarded very well. It is by accident. FSB operatives do not just die. The operation was clearly an impromptu. In general, there are a lot of issues and popcorn is becoming more expensive.

            Yelling in Ukraine - there are always screaming. Who is listening to them?

            40 years served in the FSB?

            Not in the FSB. There was no FSB then. And not forty years, less. But who cares now?
            1. 0
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Riv
              No, I just said bluntly that nothing is clear in this matter.

              I walk on the asphalt in skis shod .....
              Quote: Riv
              I'm still more interested in whose initiative this is with sabotage. Not SBU, obviously
              1. Riv
                +4
                August 11 2016
                I walk on the asphalt in skis shod .....

                Yes, go ahead, who is stopping you?

                Not SBU, obviously

                The SBU as an organizer is even less likely than the KGB of the USSR. This is evident from the official point of view of the Americans. They are obviously fucked up, no one expected such stupidity from ukrov. However, I did not impose my point of view on skiers.
            2. 0
              August 11 2016
              [quote = Riv] No, I just said bluntly that nothing is clear in this matter.
              In this I agree with you. Therefore, I drew your attention to how they are called.
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            3. -10
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Riv
              Yelling in Ukraine - there are always screaming. Who is listening to them?

              what screams. I heard from Murid for the first time and then there was an official "heroic version". Since all versions are different, the conclusions are different. In Ukraine, they have not heard at all, if you ask well, maybe only those who watch the news out of the blue. They are few. Finish with yelling in Ukraine. And that causes the wrong associations. There is an official version of the Russian Federation and there is an official one in Kiev. THEY SHOULD BE DIFFERENT in the info war stage. And here they are not right. Both lie.
            4. +2
              August 11 2016
              At the signal of local residents, the FSB operational group left. And it’s not a police outfit at all. Did you believe A swoop delayed intelligence network? Have you uncovered it in five days? Will we voice the conclusions? Or how old NKVDashniki keep silent?
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                Quote: black
                A swoop delayed intelligence network? Have you uncovered it in five days?

                All? Or a few collaborators?

                In the context of the terrorist-sabotage threat, they could have worked faster, how could one not recall the bombings in Moscow in 1999 ?? And here is 500 kg of explosives, + maydaunas - everyone can be expected from them.
                1. 0
                  August 11 2016
                  Do you know how smart? Well-oooo, teach us please.
        3. +12
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Riv
          The reason for organizing terrorist acts was voiced stupid. Well, what is this nonsense - to reduce the number of tourists?

          TNT, plastid, F-1, RGN, explosive devices in plastic bottles, electric detonators, radio detonators, devices for forced stopping of transport, red pepper from chasing dogs ... all this can really reduce the number of tourists + Crimean infrastructure. This is how many people saved from injury and death? Bow to you low, men to the ground!
          1. Riv
            +1
            August 11 2016
            But a little late, isn't it? August already, the tourist season is running out. Then it was necessary to dirty up in the spring.
            1. +3
              August 11 2016
              August is the end of the tourist season? I beg you, on the contrary. The last decade of August and the first decade of September is the most relish for Russians from the north or the middle of the country. drinks good
          2. +1
            August 11 2016
            Quote: fif21
            Bow to you low, men to the ground!

            Do not forget about the vigilant citizens of Armyansk, they were not embarrassed by Russian chevrons!
            1. +2
              August 11 2016
              A year ago, there was infa from the militias that the banderlogs would stir up something with the Russian form.
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      2. +2
        August 11 2016
        And you listen carefully to the news. The main intelligence department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces was accused of preparing sabotage.
        1. Riv
          +4
          August 11 2016
          And why should they rip off the tourist season ???
          Think of something else better. They detained there seemingly three (although xs how many actually). Surely, some people glued fins during the detention. Suppose the dead were not identified, but only one of the detainees was spotlighted. Why? There is only one reasonable version: only he is a citizen of Ukraine. I won’t be surprised at all if he has a Slavic surname only, the rest are some kind of alibaba. But it’s very similar to the barmalei - terrorist attacks in resort areas, and the Crimean Tatars and Islamists have long been rooting.
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            A good version, at least the most comprehensive at the moment hi
  8. +7
    August 11 2016
    The Ukrainian underground in the Crimea must be cleaned up.
  9. +3
    August 11 2016
    Another bombing and rocket attack on the cluster of Ukrainian troops.
    1. +8
      August 11 2016
      Why wait for the second flight? As soon as the Kaklov armored personnel carriers drove into our territory, when the Kaklov sabotage group was evacuated and shot at our guys, ours got every right to destroy these armored personnel carriers and everything that we don’t like in the adjacent Kaklov territory. But for some reason ours did not. Do not want to upset the Americans? After all, Americans are with us wholeheartedly; we cannot upset them ..
      1. 0
        August 11 2016
        Yeah, our guys immediately took with them 10 guns of d30 RPG pieces of 30 and a bastion just in case through the sevash bullet.
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          Yes, you’re absolutely right, I didn’t think about it .. For some reason, I decided that ours in Crimea had enough forces and resources to fuck some several armored personnel carriers and turn several kilometers of Kaklov’s land into hell, but I was apparently mistaken ..
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            There are enough forces there, just no one expected such arrogance.
            1. +5
              August 11 2016
              And you are right again .. We thought that they would come to visit us with a bouquet of daisies, and they sent saboteurs to them .. And this was after several blockades of Crimea, undermining power lines, threats to blow up the Kerch bridge, Islyamov’s battalions .. Indeed, it was SO SUDDENLY!
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                Same rake as with su24
                1. +1
                  August 11 2016
                  They would respond with dignity to the Turks then, there would not be this situation now. And now everyone will begin to test us for strength, the Poles have already promised to bring down our planes and sink ships, the great warriors.
                  1. +1
                    August 11 2016
                    Do you think that a worthy answer is War? (which is not buzzing)
                    1. +1
                      August 11 2016
                      I believe that if the aggressor is not immediately forced to wash with a bloody yushka, then it will be much more difficult to do this. Look at the development of events - two days ago it happened, everyone froze in fright, the kakly pressed their ears and hid under the driftwood in anticipation of terrible revenge. But from us - ZERO REACTION! Naturally, now they are crawling out from under the snags and laughing aloud at us, with the Americans, Lithuanians and other "democrats" who have joined them. Like - what kind of sabotage, we don’t know, we don’t know, what is your evidence? It is necessary to forge iron without leaving the cash register, they poked their heads - they shook at an adult, in the end, in this case, you can always write off the grave consequences of retaliation for the "excess of the executor" and scold some commander "in the field" for excessive zeal. And now we will have to make excuses, or I don’t understand anything ..
  10. +2
    August 11 2016
    The Americans are trying to pull part of our forces out of Syria, where moderate terrorists now feel bad?
    1. PN
      +1
      August 11 2016
      It is unlikely that this will require full-fledged fighting.
    2. +4
      August 11 2016
      Quote: VasiliyKhilkov
      The Americans are trying to pull part of our forces from Syria

      Are there many of our strengths?
    3. 0
      August 11 2016
      The Americans are trying to pull part of our forces out of Syria, where moderate terrorists now feel bad?


      To hunt for Ukrainian terrorists in Crimea, bombers are not needed.
    4. 0
      August 11 2016
      And what? Do we have forces without Syria?
  11. +18
    August 11 2016
    "..... According to Vladimir Putin, the West must either finally admit that a settlement in Ukraine is not included in its plans, or, if it is interested in the opposite (Vladimir Putin:" What I really hope ... "), ..... "
    GDP Well done !!!
    1. +4
      August 11 2016
      GDP Well done !!!
      This is the one during whose reign the Yeltsin Center was built on the people's money without asking the people? And now this center will praise Vlasov. During whose reign a memorial plaque was hung in honor of the Nazi accomplice Mannerheim? The man who promised, "Let them just try to shoot at the Russians," and nothing Russians in the Donbass were killed by the thousands and will not twitch now. The ruler of a country in which athletes were humiliated, and he did not even try to protect them. after these events, he must already take decisive steps, and limited himself to launching trolls on VO
  12. +10
    August 11 2016
    Curiously, Putin said that just did not leave the death of two soldiers. But what can you get from a mad dog? Shooting at the border guards is pointless, destroying all the APU too. Poroshenko can be beaten, but he is only a dummy on the strings of the US CIA. Press economically? What to crush, a dead carcass? Introduce sanctions ?? And the meaning is all the connections are cut off. Block the gas? Option, but some slippery.
    So it’s not even clear how to answer the country, 2 year of war with us. And how can you euthanize a rabid dodger?
    1. +4
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Wedmak
      But what can you get from a mad dog? Shooting at the border guards is pointless, destroying all the APU too.


      The supply of weapons to the DNI is likely.
      It is advisable to get the SBU archives about all the ATO fighters.
  13. +6
    August 11 2016
    Crazy dogs are shot for treatment is not necessary!
  14. +7
    August 11 2016
    it’s not a dog, it’s just rams, wool sostrich and slaughter!
  15. +17
    August 11 2016
    We are waiting for the latest warning from GDP on the type of joke in the old 60 years:
    "TASS reports that yesterday a single pistol shot was fired at the peacefully plowing Soviet tractor from the neighboring side (in the original Chinese). The Soviet tractor responded with a friendly rocket salvo, and the collective farm chairman, General Ivanov, remarked that if such crap repeats, then he will go to the tractor again. and attach the harrow. "
    1. +3
      August 11 2016
      "
      Quote: avg-mgn
      also harrow


      ... then the farm will be supplied with vertical take-off mowers
    2. +1
      August 11 2016
      And a vertical take-off mower.
  16. +6
    August 11 2016
    I would very much like to believe that the answer will be HARD and adequate. angry
    We hope for you, Vladimir Vladimirovich! soldier
  17. +1
    August 11 2016
    In this whole situation, one thing is clear: Kiev and its puppeteers do not understand the language of diplomacy, and by definition they are not ready to understand. It is also clear that to continue stroking a rabid dog and to “talk” about something with it is simply pointless.

    Wow. It suddenly became clear. And three years have not passed.
    1. +5
      August 11 2016
      Quote: kolyhalovs
      Wow. It suddenly became clear. And three years have not passed.

      They understood this before, but tried to solve it with a relative world, without much blood.
  18. +1
    August 11 2016
    ... Patience and patience again ... it seems that this phrase is no longer relevant in our policy, anyway, some real actions are needed ...
  19. +4
    August 11 2016
    What to do with Kiev mad dog?

    The dog and its owner should be neutered so that others would not bully
  20. +9
    August 11 2016
    It’s even useless to treat stubborn ones, it’s better to go to the morgue right away, all of these Islyamovs, skiriks, biryukovs, Muscovites, Poroshenko and all this occupation administration and their Nazi battalions. They already Nadia Savchenko openly speaks about the future, their polar-fur future in general, and all the stubborn are not appeased.
  21. +2
    August 11 2016
    In fact, rabid dogs are shot.
    But what if you have a gun, but 20-30 neighbors stand up for this dog?
    And the rest 20-30 look at this completely indifferent? fellow
    1. +5
      August 11 2016
      Quote: individ
      In fact, rabid dogs are shot.
      But what if you have a gun, but 20-30 neighbors stand up for this dog?
      And the rest 20-30 look at this completely indifferent? fellow


      If you have enough cartridges for a gun, then this is already a problem for those neighbors who stand up for the mad dog. Soon there may be not 20-30, but much less. Or, do not stay at all.
  22. +4
    August 11 2016
    The death of our guys causes sadness.
    Well, these "glorious heroes of Ukraine", their future for 25 years provided for themselves, or even for life. They will not exchange, like Savchenko, for terrorists.

    Now dear Dauria will write. that kissel tv is lying. I would also like to hear the opinion of Ukrainian comrades, who sometimes uphold the position of Ukraine.

    I read the sites of Ukraine, confusion, well, constant barking!
    1. +7
      August 11 2016
      Lifetime, one hundred percent. They have already announced illegal border crossing with weapons, preparations for a terrorist attack and preparations for the murder of persons who are representatives of the authorities. With such a diagnosis only in "White Swan"
  23. +6
    August 11 2016
    The answer is simple. In the areas bordering the Crimea, identify the locations of terrorists and do with them the same as in Syria.
  24. +4
    August 11 2016
    The most important answer should be TIMELY and PREPARED.
  25. +4
    August 11 2016
    Enough for us to make a blissful face. It's time for the bear and teeth to show and the roar of the owner. What would everyone have little desire to joke with Russia.
  26. +3
    August 11 2016
    Of course, the United States is seeking this, but it’s imperative to respond to such impudence! And no more negotiations!
    1. +2
      August 11 2016
      Of course, the United States is seeking this, but it’s imperative to respond to such impudence! And no more negotiations!
      Something I do not hear talk about the elections in the United States and in Russia. Everyone has known for a long time that if there is a political scandal or elections in the states, then somewhere in the world a large-scale terrorist attack will surely happen, or another war begins in order to divert the attention of the world "public" from itself and direct it to Russia. We went through this more than once, and now everything is the same again. The handwriting is the same, the methods are the same, respectively, the customer and the performer are the same. Before the elections in Russia, the situation will be shaken by all conceivable and inconceivable means, and Crimea is one of the events in the chain. Further it will be more and more rigid.
    2. 0
      August 11 2016
      So maybe give them what they ask?
  27. +3
    August 11 2016
    The dog is rotten, the brain is paralyzed, the limbs are not obeyed. The owner’s shouts inquisitively whines and tries to at least please something. It is extremely unpredictable. When neutralizing this half-dead animal, avoid close contact. The best option is to destroy at a distance, and disinfect the territory !!!
  28. +7
    August 11 2016
    The FSB behaved very competently after the events: paused, interrogated, reported, analyzed everything that was yelling at that time - Putin made a decision and DECLINE! And for the guys we will avenge - fiercer than for the pilots in Syria!
    1. -7
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Dora2014
      The FSB behaved very competently after the events: paused, interrogated, reported, analyzed everything that was yelling at that time - Putin made a decision and DECLINE! And for the guys we will avenge - fiercer than for the pilots in Syria!


      Competent behavior of the FSB in such a situation is to invade the neighboring territory for twenty kilometers, bind ALL involved, burn and destroy the entire gangster infrastructure, report on the execution. To warn the kaklovs that each of their outrage will cost them another twenty kilometers of Kaklovsk territory. Here is a literate behavior.
      1. +6
        August 11 2016
        You are my friend, of course, a strategist. I would like to hear the details. How do you intend to withdraw the groups, what kind of support and cover? Is there any provision for basing in the adjacent territory? What is the undercover cover of the area of ​​action of our punitive expedition? Will we use satellite constellation? What percentage of the death of your personnel, you assume? How do you intend to evacuate?
        1. +3
          August 11 2016
          And I don’t have to assume anything. To do this, we have specially trained people, they are being prepared for such situations - how to prevent this from happening, and if they were allowed to - how to bend the guilty to the ground. So they have to decide whether to use the satellite constellation, or simply pick up several helicopters from the nearest base and burn everything that is burning, fuck.
        2. +3
          August 11 2016
          In 2008, forcing peace, a substantial part of the infrastructure of the Georgian armed forces was destroyed up to bases near Tbilisi, if I am not mistaken ..
          1. +1
            August 11 2016
            Great analogy, thanks for the example.
    2. 0
      August 11 2016
      And for the guys we will avenge - more fiercely - God grant.
  29. -1
    August 11 2016
    And I have questions, how did they get into sovereign territory ???? What is difficult to build a wall like in Mexico ??? And do we need these problems further ??? When will the FSB begin to work ????
    1. +7
      August 11 2016
      No wall will solve the border problem today, especially in Crimea. Walls can be dug, climbed, walked around the sea, etc. You can go through the official checkpoint without weapons. Today, the PV is armed with a host of electronics to control open space.
      It is necessary to respond to the provocation with an economic gap. Turkey had seven months. Ukraine will need less in winter. Any military action against Ukraine in their territory will be ukra only at hand. Actually, this, I think, was one of the goals in the event of failure. It would not be bad to buy all the coal from LDNR for its needs (resell it to China, for example) and put pressure on Lukashenko so that he would not try to warm his hands on our economic sanctions.
      1. +4
        August 11 2016
        Quote: ARES623
        Turkey had seven months

        Erdogan is about to become the Sultan of the great Ottoman Empire. He does not need a ruined economy. And the piglet sits on the suitcases and regrets that he got involved in all this. He has an economy of 404 on the drum.
    2. +7
      August 11 2016
      and the FSB works, and it’s quite effective. Now, if these DRGs were able to fulfill their tasks, then it would be possible to hait the office, and so everything is clear. Well, this is far from the first prevented terrorist attacks
      1. -1
        August 11 2016
        Quote: DmitryU
        and the FSB works, and it’s quite effective. Now, if these DRGs were able to fulfill their tasks, then it would be possible to hait the office, and so everything is clear. Well, this is far from the first prevented terrorist attacks

        Share the details, rejoice with you, otherwise it seems that your statement is unfounded. Which textbook describes the method of capturing DRG by the operational service?
  30. +1
    August 11 2016
    Well, actually there is already an algorithm. Reveal terrorist bases and destroy. Together with the terrorists. Need a criterion divided by terrorists from non-terrorists. Although the United States is not particularly engaged in division.
  31. +2
    August 11 2016
    I think that Ukraine will be strangled revealing how Turkey was strangled before. Until an official apology follows (I’ll go to the market and buy another cast-iron skillet. Ukrainian cast iron is cheaper than French)
  32. +8
    August 11 2016
    Quote: air wolf
    And I have questions, how did they get into sovereign territory ???? What is difficult to build a wall like in Mexico ??? And do we need these problems further ???When will the FSB begin to work ????
    Offer your candidacy for the post of director of the FSB, and you can start working, your efforts will certainly be appreciated.
  33. 0
    August 11 2016
    Kuev became even more shaking hands, although he was one, I can’t understand, they donated all the flasks to the kaklams there? they’re hoping that the possessed ghouls hope that they’ll get away with it, reckoning will come like that furry animal from the north, to be honest, I’m waiting for winter, in winter it will be more interesting to look at this zoo
  34. 0
    August 11 2016
    ... rabies is a contagious disease and non-humans are subject to aphthonasia, regardless of age, position in the country, and including their predecessor’s head ...
  35. +2
    August 11 2016
    Crush banderlog force of arms and economically. Do not sell coal or electricity, let the raguli starve and freeze. They have no brains, so you need to influence this rabble with the help of conditioned and unconditioned reflexes. Studies by Academician Pavlov show that training can be successful.
  36. +4
    August 11 2016
    What to do with the Kiev mad dog? Stroke, of course. Well, maybe not right away, but after a couple of months. What discount for gas to provide. Seriously, do not expect a cruise missile strike on any Ukrainian HF near the Crimea. That would be what the States or Israel would do. And the Russian leadership is kind, soft and fraternally humane.
  37. +4
    August 11 2016
    The Kiev special services from the US special services were tasked with organizing some kind of outbreak of a military conflict with the participation of Russia, provoking it to participate in hostilities. And how to solve it, the SBU had to decide for themselves. It can be assumed that we can talk about an outbreak of hostilities with the offensive of the Ukrainian army. I would like to note that the entire operation of the FSB of Russia to eliminate the sabotage groups of Ukraine, oddly enough, may not be correctly interpreted, to put it mildly, by foreign media. This makes it possible for Ukraine to blame the FSB about the impending terrorist attacks in Crimea. Turchynov has already "screamed", warning of a new stage in the hybrid war against Ukraine. The question is why? Who knows, maybe behind this there are much bigger plans to make Russia an aggressor in order to ensure Clinton's victory over Trump in the elections.
    1. +3
      August 11 2016
      Quote: sergey2017
      ? Who knows, maybe there are much bigger plans behind this to make an aggressor from Russia, with the goal of securing Clinton’s victory over Trump in the elections.


      Remember Occam's Razor? It is not necessary to multiply entities unnecessarily. In Russian it means - don't complicate. There is a specific action kaklov. We must immediately respond with our specific opposition. And so that even the Americans flinched and said - well, nah. these Russians, they were absolutely brutal there! And then let Lavrov and Zakharova think about how and to whom to explain this, and in general whether it is necessary to explain something to anyone.
    2. +4
      August 11 2016
      Quote: sergey2017
      And how to solve it, the SBU should have decided it themselves.

      What SBU ?! the CIA has been officially working in the main building for a long time in Kiev! And the Amerovsky flag has been hung out! It’s possible that Petya will be demolished, but in his place there will still be an even bigger scumbag like Biletsky, but after this type, yes, after the economic blockade it will reach ... the people.
  38. +6
    August 11 2016
    I think it is urgent to recognize the DPR and LPR and stop shipping coal to Ukraine, and do not sell electric energy either. Stop trading, make a visa regime and let them boil in their boiler. The people will wake up and sweep away this power anyway.
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  40. 0
    August 11 2016
    Of course, we will not pass by such things. This is very disturbing information. Indeed, the special services prevented the penetration from the territory of Ukraine of the sabotage and reconnaissance group of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. And, of course, in these conditions, meeting in the Norman format, especially in China, is pointless.
    LOSE TWO people! So what? Another Chinese warning.
  41. 0
    August 11 2016
    Here are two related videos:
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=x11WAENexig

    https://youtu.be/GjiqHFGcdns
  42. +9
    August 11 2016
    But isn’t it time in Russian law to revise the moratorium on the death penalty regarding articles of the Criminal Code for terrorism? And do not care about Western and domestic liberalists. Citizens safety is superior to boltology.
    Well, in 404 they rage from the realization of inferiority: "Here we are disconnected from you, we are, here! How dare you live better than us? !!!!"
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      But isn’t it time in Russian law to revise the moratorium on the death penalty regarding articles of the Criminal Code for terrorism? And do not care about Western and domestic liberalists. Citizens safety is superior to boltology.
      I support, it's time.
      1. +2
        August 11 2016
        It is high time. Moreover for bribery and theft among officials - also good
  43. 0
    August 11 2016
    For those who want to crush a mad dog in her kennel ...
    I spoke, but it was never heard. I repeat ... Why do you think that over the past three months, NATO has strengthened the grouping in the border states? To scare our army, to calm the satellites? Do you yourself believe that? Any databases transferred to the territory of Ukraine, turn into a request Poroshenko to the countries of NATO for help in the fight against the aggressor. And he will receive this help, that’s just the bulk of this help, will quickly come up not at the border with the Crimea, but in the Donbass. And the peasants will be there very sour ... we need this?
    1. +3
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Canecat
      For those who want to crush a mad dog in her kennel ...
      I spoke, but it was never heard. I repeat ... Why do you think that over the past three months, NATO has strengthened the grouping in the border states? To scare our army, to calm the satellites? Do you yourself believe that? Any databases transferred to the territory of Ukraine, turn into a request Poroshenko to the countries of NATO for help in the fight against the aggressor. And he will receive this help, that’s just the bulk of this help, will quickly come up not at the border with the Crimea, but in the Donbass. And the peasants will be there very sour ... we need this?


      Then run for petroleum jelly. Because the rape will still take place, whether you will be careful and timid or not. Moreover, the more careful and timid you are, the more gross and perverse rape will be. It is strange that you do not understand this, being so reasonable.
      1. -3
        August 11 2016
        Well, yes, you don’t fight in the Donbass. How is it on the sofa, didn’t lie down? Not?
        1. 0
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Canecat
          Well, yes, you don’t fight in the Donbass. How is it on the sofa, didn’t lie down? Not?


          The Motherland will say - I will go to fight. I still remember Soviet power, and what is “the party said -“ must ”, the Komsomol answered -“ yes. ”And, by the way, are you writing something from the trench yourself? Not from the APUshny trench by accident?
          1. +2
            August 11 2016
            To your great regret, not from the APUshny trench and not from the couch ... unlike you, I think and compare the facts, and not ask, with my hands up, "I don't understand why ...". I wonder why, knowing about the build-up of the ukrogruppirovka in the Crimean direction, they "slept" with fire support from the adjacent side, during the brilliantly conducted operation of polite people. What served as a refusal to accept the order to suppress firing points. The transience of the battle or the order "do not open fire on the adjacent side." After all, you probably did not serve in the border troops, so that you could at least a little understand the intricacies of service And the concept of an adjacent side. This is not a front line in Donbass, where you can get a response for shelling, this is the State Border, here even a machine gun fire towards another state is regarded as aggression and is at least an international scandal. Now turn the toggle switch in your brains to the ON position, and think about who will be right in the current political situation, in this border conflict and who will be the scapegoat.
            1. +1
              August 12 2016
              This is not a state border. Both countries should recognize the state border. Ukraine so does not exactly recognize it.
      2. +2
        August 11 2016
        These groups are for the fragmentation of Ukraine, the annexation of Lviv and all that they can. NATO does not fight, they, like jackals, tear pieces fell.
    2. +1
      August 12 2016
      NATO will not intervene in the war in Ukraine no matter what happens there. Firstly, because we need a collective decision of all members of the alliance, but it will not be. And secondly, and this is the most important thing, Western countries are not warriors in such conflicts, and they understand this better than we do.
  44. +3
    August 11 2016
    how evil you are! Well this is our brothers !!! damn, already sick! Forgive me, but men. in my opinion it will be the same as with the Turks: they will make fun, cheeks are pushed, and again they will persuade! in my opinion, drivers need to replace the ovaries with our hand, only Professor Preobrazhentsev has gone somewhere recourse
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      So it will be, of course. The more cheeks inflate, the less work.
  45. +4
    August 11 2016
    It's funny to read comments about the fact that everyone needs to bang their heads on the side of ukrov and most importantly, to have a bigger caliber this is one of the worst scenarios.

    For example, the following scheme could be
    A man came in with dark glasses with a bucket of bucks, say 10 million for the organization of this operation. Who will he come to? not to Poproshenko, who has only nominal power for the media.
    People go to the one who has people, weapons and real power, let it be a mediator.
    He gives a mediator to the mediator and says that it is necessary to carry out the operation this way and that, such a high-level dizan, you’ll figure out the details yourself.
    The mediator hires people, gives weapons, through his connections the Ukrainian directs the frontier guards to cover a group of saboteurs with fire
    And it started

    Total
    1. Our heaped by this gouging
    2. Poproshenko howls that this is all nonsense and a conspiracy of Russia, in fact he didn’t give a command to it, therefore, theoretically it’s like we weren’t lying in the plan that he had nothing to do with it, although he clearly knew where his legs were growing from.)
    3. The mediator sits and does not shine against the backdrop of all this
    4. The mediator is not a sucker and will snarl if he tries to knock on the head. At the same time, peaceful Ukrainian citizens will scream that she is an aggressor in Russia. Poproshenko will be the first to howl throughout the geyrop
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      Do not be offended, but this is demagoguery at the kindergarten level. "Poroshenko is good, he did not know!" From their territory they came to our armored personnel carriers, they shot at our people, there are killed. What intermediaries, what - did the authorities not know? An act of military aggression, with all that it implies. And you can think of a lot of excuses why it is easier to do nothing.
      1. +2
        August 11 2016
        No one says that he is good, he is not good)
        Just the world is not divided into black and white)
        As president, he is responsible for his country and for the actions of its citizens, but in reality it is only a screen saver for the media and ordinary people.
        I hardly believe that the chocolate king will organize this, looks more like Turchinov more and Avakov, well, the list goes on ... but this is just my opinion
        Remember the 90s where the loot was everything.
        What about Turkey? (I certainly do not care for Erdagan, but just as an example)
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          But what do I care about your complex logical constructions? There is a fact of invasion from the territory of a neighboring state, there is the use of military force against our military, there are our dead guys. An adequate answer should be given, in other words, kakly should wash themselves with blood. Point. Imagine this on the border of the USA and Mexico. Like, brutalized Mexican shtetl barons who do not obey the central government, invaded the territory of the USA on armored personnel carriers, shot, killed two marines. Would America bother with complex logic? Schazz! Everything would burn! All Mexico would cry! And this is right, only in this case they will be afraid and respected.
          1. +1
            August 11 2016
            uh no, not a correct comparison
            If you so wanted to compare with the USA, then it would be more correct to compare with such a scenario, what would happen if the armored personnel carrier from the side of Canada failed two marines? there was nothing ... well, in terms of washing blood and making total on the adjacent side.
            To wash everyone with blood is not an adequate answer, it is a loss, this is what they are seeking from us. It is only the perpetrators that are not realistic to get without additional victims, and the Slavs kill the Slavs as a result of the war, which will be a big burden for the economy. The answer is needed but according to the rules of the game that Russia started.
            1. +2
              August 11 2016
              I do not want to compare with the United States at all, but for me, this is the closest comparison. Moreover, it is the United States and Mexico. Like a strong state and a misunderstanding on the map, large in size and population, but where there is always some kind of bad drive, bustle, shooting, tragedy, squeals, squeaks - and no order. And Kaklostan has never once been Canada, Mexico - yes, the same is unfinished, completely subordinate to another state, actually under external control. Americans are also making fun of Canada, but they recognize it’s right to at least some independence of action.
  46. +2
    August 11 2016
    hohlofascists under the leadership of the United States work according to the old manuals of the "Abwehr", and therefore, as history teaches, all this abomination must be burned out with a hot iron.
  47. +2
    August 11 2016
    this is quite drawing on the fact that Washington has authorized the sabotage and terrorist operation of the Ukrainian security forces in Crimea.

    Panov and his ilk for life without the right of pardon and exchange. No other, moratorium, damn it !!!
  48. +7
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    Quote: sergey2017
    ? Who knows, maybe there are much bigger plans behind this to make an aggressor from Russia, with the goal of securing Clinton’s victory over Trump in the elections.


    Remember Occam's Razor? It is not necessary to multiply entities unnecessarily. In Russian it means - don't complicate. There is a specific action kaklov. We must immediately respond with our specific opposition. And so that even the Americans flinched and said - well, nah. these Russians, they were absolutely brutal there! And then let Lavrov and Zakharova think about how and to whom to explain this, and in general whether it is necessary to explain something to anyone.

    I also sympathize with the saying of Russian officers in Leo Tolstoy's novel "War and Peace":
    Fais ce que tu dois, et advienne qui pourra!
    From French: Do what you must, and let it be, that will be!
    We all have itchy hands to deal with the Kiev mad dog. Revenge is a dish to be served cold! Now V.V. Putin needs to weigh everything, how to do the right thing and make the only right decision!
  49. +13
    August 11 2016
    Kapets guys are you generally insane? With a dozen sensible comments and all !!! Have you ever guessed that this is all for real? Practically repetition of the second Chechen corrected for color.
    And by the way they lost two people but took 7 alive !!! These seven are the biggest plus of operations, documents, names, confessions. Kiev cannot get away from this. My opinion should be hit on the United States, more video reporting, explosives and questions from correspondents about the "support of terrorism" by the US government. The elections are in full swing there. It is most rational to play this card against the owners, and then it is likely that the operation will be curtailed or the radicals will be forced to shut up.
    1. Mwg
      +2
      August 11 2016
      For WildFox. Is it really still not clear to you who is sitting in Kiev? When your authorities have double, triple, etc., ad infinitum, standards, when the usual is an obvious lie and sweeping accusations, when they breed illusions and are trying their best to make the population believe in the machinations of terrible "Muscovites", you really think what will not disappear? And how do you like this version: "We learned that our heroes are breaking through from Moscow captivity and went to support them in breaking through the border"? And this: "Muscovites entered the territory of free Ukraine from the Crimea and stole 7 people, and 13 decreased"? What, people don't eat?
    2. +1
      August 11 2016
      What other United States are you in the hohlushka completely swollen from democracy. Everyone through your prez has a slurry and is specially warmed up for a war with Russia, and if something comes up the only answer to you is quick and merciless, don't even dream of any Chechnya they will disperse your hohloband in a maximum of a week, and at least half of your hohlobovsk will be destroyed.
    3. -3
      August 11 2016
      like 7, showed one?
      which is typical, my relative, a peaceful dekhanin, was not allowed into the Crimea, he was going to the wedding Dobrobatovets (!!!!) - "Bon Voyage".
      As there someone promised "Crimea will be Russian, Ukrainian but not Bandera." Everything is wonderful and nifiga is not clear.
    4. 0
      August 11 2016
      << Almost a repetition of the second Chechen, corrected for color. >>
      mmm ... Well, suppose it didn’t even lie close to the second Chechen one. Everything was clear there. Here are the gangs, here are the peaceful people, here are the troops. But! There is one real thing in this, this performance of puppeteer clowns. An attempt to unleash a conflict during the OI to get an echo.
      Well what then? - We can assume that they did not succeed, but with us - Yes! Refusing to meet Norman is not an empty splash of water in a puddle. Let's see what will now be mumbled by all sorts of dogs last and UN screamers .. We are one step away from adopting the image dictated to us. Want to see us as an angry bear? - No matter how they have to adrenalize the sneakers. NATO's Second Army is on "pause" from the day before yesterday's summits. What else needs to be done in order to revisit again? - That's right, everything has already been done. The troops are brought to BG and are waiting for the RF to trample on them. But it will not be so. Wait ...
      1. 0
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Vmandrika
        Refusing Norman meetings is not an empty splash of water in a puddle.

        This is a bunch in a puddle, without a splash. So, the bubbles just went.
        Quote: Vmandrika
        They want to see an angry bear in us?

        They know in advance that there is no bear, but there is a rat. And the preserves are stored with them.
  50. 0
    August 11 2016
    Kicked horses are shot, isn't it? The Kiev junta is just the same horse.
  51. 0
    August 11 2016
    I think that Russia will not attack Ukraine, but support for the republics may become more significant in military terms.
  52. +1
    August 11 2016
    Clinton 100% organized the provocation in order to provoke Russia, and then make loud accusations against us and against Trump and Wally - the “old woman” president in the USA. The former financial-terrorist elite of the United States will remain in power and will think about what next country to rob, how many people to kill (over-violence) and what to say to the “old woman”.
  53. +1
    August 11 2016
    Gunpowder is not Erdogan, he will not apologize, because... It is not he, the State Department, who speaks and thinks. You can't get away with the economy here, because... There is no economy in Ukraine, which means there is nothing to put pressure on them. But they think that they will scare us with a pipe, especially before winter. And in order not to repay debts, you need to quarrel. So they are waiting to make a face and slam the door. Like in school: hit me, hit me!
  54. -2
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Hunter
    No response can not be left!

    Only an atomic bomb on Kiev! Well, modern Ukraine cannot be PEACEFUL. That’s not why it was created. This Bandera regime was created precisely to counter Russia. And there will be provocations in Crimea and Donbass. I think they are possible in Russia too. Their actions with militants are possible in the Caucasus. This will only stop with a complete change of regime! hi
  55. VB
    +2
    August 11 2016
    Crossing the state border by a military unit with weapons in hand is an attack on the country. So cross the border of the USA or, for example, Israel, what do you get, and right away? OUR state has a real opportunity to wipe out the air defense, air force, army and military infrastructure of Banderstadt from the face of the earth. These creatures need to turn Yugoslavia around and turn it into an aviation training ground. There is no mercy for our dead!
  56. -1
    August 11 2016
    Well, they warned that this could be an option. After all, having taken Crimea, they did not formalize it legally (I am on the neutral side, missing how it was “taken”) Crimea still appears as Ukrainian territory. All agreements between the Russian Federation and Ukraine (including the Great Treaty and the Border Treaty, the 2012 Treaty and others) regulating borders have remained unchanged. Kyiv did not even stop the Kharkov agreements (the Russian Federation did). Legally, Crimea remains Ukrainian with the right to host Russian troops and navy on the basis of rent (it sounds funny, but it is true, although it is clear that no one will pay it)
    At the moment we have a situation where the Russian Federation has nothing to demand in the international arena. Blame the Kyiv action? Well, this is what the SBU can do on the territory of Ukraine. Violation of Russian territory? This cannot be said at the UN - there it is Ukraine. They can be declared terrorists without identification marks and quietly pursued. But to announce loudly to the whole world, it turns out that the Russian Federation is “meddling in Ukrainian affairs.”
    In general, legal incidents do not stop.
    What about all the events? Guys, we were warned about all this. That there will be provocations, that there will be sabotage, that revanchism will take root, that Ukrainians will not easily forget about Crimea and the further it goes, the worse it will be. Yes, these are not the Arabs with their faith in Gurias. But there will be actions. The Kremlin’s position is that everything is as it should be and I don’t see or hear anything. Crimea seems to be ours, but no one is interested in it anymore. De facto, it was not possible to implement it de jure. Ukraine generally has a free hand in this regard. But you can’t touch it - “aggression”
    Kyiv will say that these are not ours and in general “they were fired yesterday” - a private initiative. And in general, “they will disappear.” So Moscow and Kiev continue to play the game with our lives.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      You write as if God created these international laws and they have worked for thousands of years.

      The winners write the laws. Ukraine is now an object with all that it implies. They warned you with Kosovo - with referendums you opened Pandora's box.

      And the issue of Crimea will be decided by France, for example, with its own hands. If not now, then in 30 years. A paltry period, for example, compared to the time of occupation of Bulgaria by the Turks. When the Arabs decide that they need to use a referendum to separate themselves from the godless Nazis from their point of view.
    2. +4
      August 11 2016
      At least Vicky, God forgive me, read about the status of these agreements. But in life, we are at war, in your words, what kind of treaties are they?
    3. +1
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Retvizan
      At the moment we have a situation where the Russian Federation has nothing to demand in the international arena.

      In the international arena, anything can be demanded only with the help of a fist. Such is the contribution of mattresses to international law.
  57. 0
    August 11 2016
    The Olympics have arrived! am
  58. +1
    August 11 2016
    hi
    Regarding the “double continuous” joke I remembered:
    A little boy asks his traffic cop dad:
    - Dad, what does a “solid” line mean?
    Dad responds:
    -You can't cross.
    The boy asks again:
    - What does “double continuous” mean?
    Dad:
    - EVEN THOUGHT DO NOT DARE !!! am
    bully drinks
  59. +2
    August 11 2016
    "Chess", Friends, was played by the USA much more subtly according to Plan B, but...? Once again, Obama and Co. screwed up! And the plan invented by the CIA was good: through the URU (Kiev) and Albanian intelligence, to carry out the assassination of V.V. Putin in Slovenia, then “on the quiet” (while turmoil and anarchy begin in the Russian Federation, loss of control of the state and army) through sabotage (terror) and with a military lightning strike, squeeze out both Crimea and Donbass, and resolve the Syrian issue (for it is no secret that the Albanians are working closely with ISIS and Nusra)?! The plan is good, but “they messed something up at the conservatory”: first, instead of Air Force One of the Russian Federation, they shot down a Malaysian Boeing, now there is a puncture in Ljubljana on July 1? And the flywheel has already been launched: first, the “barmalei” immediately barked on July 30, “that anyway, you, Putin, will not leave us” and “our brothers in Russia - we will terrorize the infidels and Putin”! So their “Ukrainian brothers” decided to “move them under ISIS”? It seems that Patrashenko was pushing Erdogan into this mess (Turkish intelligence, through the Crimean Tatars and Albanians, is not only a connecting link, but also a coordinator of the process), however, Turchanin seems to have handed them over to Valdemar Valdemarovich in St. Petersburg! However, I didn’t sit at the same table with the Presidents, so I’m just guessing? But I believe, judging by the events, it really is! Good luck to all of you!
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Great, you've sorted everything out! Do you work for the CIA?
      1. +2
        August 11 2016
        School named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky graduated in 1987, was in Chechnya twice! I personally knew D. Dudayev and many “green” commanders. Participated in the liquidation of Barayev at Dubrovka?! Isn't it enough? And the assassination attempts on the leaders of the LDPR are “links in the same chain”, the end of which is not even in Kyiv? Payette confirmed this, haven’t you read? In addition, watch the interview with the CIA deputy, where he calls for “killing” the Russians, Hezbollah and Iranians in Syria!? Add 2+2 and you get 4 - that’s what the real intelligence “bisons” taught me? As my older comrades say: “Look at the essence”? This is the typical style of the CIA - to kill the leader of the nation, sow terror and panic, and quietly implement the state. coup? Did they do the same with P. Lumumba, and S. Allende, and with Vitya Yanukovych? Or do you disagree with me?
  60. 0
    August 11 2016
    Quote: sergey2017
    I would like to note that the entire operation of the Russian FSB to eliminate sabotage groups in Ukraine, oddly enough, may not be correctly interpreted, to put it mildly, by foreign media. This makes it possible for Ukraine to blame the FSB for the impending terrorist attacks in Crimea.
    That's exactly how it is. The Americans immediately shouted again that Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, therefore the FSB carried out a terrorist attack on its territory.
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  62. +2
    August 11 2016
    Lovers of shooting calibers, turn off your emotions and use your heads. Well, let’s say we hit the opposite bank of the Sivash with these fucking armored personnel carriers. One hundred percent of the crests will work for us (well, it’s not for nothing that they brought the equipment there). And then in a spiral. And it doesn’t matter who is the first to stop and what the results will be. The main informational occasion. And no one will remember about the unfinished DRG. The main message will be: Aggressive Russia does not stop there but develops expansion, poor proud Ukraine and blah blah blah. The crests have too little time left to perform the main function of the puddle they were cut into. So let's go to the bank. You can only shoot when the ghouls are on our territory, but it’s better to catch them and show them to everyone in the cage. So, in my opinion, everything is correct so far. We caught him, paused and made an intricate threat. Let them twitch because again things didn’t go according to the scenario. Now they all have one thought: what will happen next and what to do with the crap in which they so conscientiously wallowed. Oh, I forgot, and I have one more thought: what will these half-baked saboteurs who should have either broken through or died heroically say to the Russians?
    1. +2
      August 11 2016
      People shed their emotions, don’t treat them harshly.
      Speak wink , do not move the bags.
      1. 0
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Cynic
        People shed their emotions, don’t treat them harshly.
        Speak wink , do not move the bags.

        Reading the comments, you begin to suspect that this is a specialized site for people with neuropsychic instability. Any news - and that’s it, the brains turn off, the emotions turn on. What happened in Crimea is unknown and incomprehensible; the FSB’s account is full of holes, white spots, and fog, but in the comments they are already running, waving clubs, ready to “turn the whole world into dust.” (c)
  63. +1
    August 11 2016
    I believe that it is worth supporting an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council. Only this meeting will be held in Yalta with a showing of the arrested agents of Ukraine, Chabdarov. The result should be the same as in 1944:
    - the state of Ukraine should be liquidated and transferred, and the territory transferred to Russia;
    -The government of Ukraine will condemn Chabdarov and publicly hang him as a warning to other terrorists.
    I have the honor.
  64. +1
    August 11 2016
    in any case, the US position will remain unchanged: “Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, the United States condemns the occupation of Crimea and Russia’s military actions in eastern Ukraine. Washington will maintain sanctions until Russia returns Crimea to Ukraine.”

    Translated into ordinary language, this statement means only one thing: the United States will continue to be ready to support any provocative actions of Kyiv.
    Any provocative actions of Kyiv, those. terror! After calls for the secret murder of Russians, these "any provocative actions“show that the essence of the United States as a state is no different from a tribe of cannibals or a terrorist gang dangerous to society...... it’s difficult to say what will happen with the arrival of a new president, but there is an assumption that they will not quickly get out of the Stone Age into civilization.
  65. +2
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Blackberry
    Dear Nevsky, cutting off coal supplies to Ukraine is the same as leaving Dombass, already damaged during a brutal war, without a means of subsistence. Because they do not supply coal for free, Ukraine pays for it in real money.


    I fundamentally disagree. Russia may well:

    1) Buy coal from Donbass yourself
    2) Help sell coal from Donbass to third countries
    3) In general, forget about coal. Just finally open the borders for any other goods from Donbass. As you know, Donbass still needs all sorts of pieces of paper from the junta, otherwise Russia will not let anything cross its border! Can you imagine how any product that would have been written “Produced in the DPR (LPR, Novorossiya)” would be scattered in Russia. Yes, the same seeds, cucumbers, knitwear, whatever, would simply fly away in our market even if the price/quality ratio is not the best!

    4) There is far more than just coal in Donbass. They make mining complexes and other complex equipment.
  66. 0
    August 11 2016
    The time has come for Ukraine, like a mad dog, to break its neck, because it simply no longer has the strength to endure this mess. The question is stark: either the issue needs to be resolved with the Kyiv “junta” once and for all, or the whole infection from Ukraine will spread to Russia. First it will be Crimea, then Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, Stavropol, and then Moscow, St. Petersburg and further throughout the country. Stop begging Kyiv, because conversations with idiots and “horses” from the Maidan will ultimately destabilize Russia to the general joy of “all progressive humanity” led by the United States... It’s time to close the “Ukraine” project.....
  67. 0
    August 11 2016
    But the “animal” will “suffer”, and so will the long-suffering people of Ukraine...
    This is the most important thing and you shouldn’t pay attention to the howling
  68. +2
    August 11 2016
    Quote: DmitryU
    and the FSB works, and it’s quite effective. Now, if these DRGs were able to fulfill their tasks, then it would be possible to hait the office, and so everything is clear. Well, this is far from the first prevented terrorist attacks

    The FSB acted on the verge of a foul (Gelenvagen syndrome is progressing). The cache was already laid!(?) once. Neither the FSB nor the GRU were prepared for enemy penetration. The situation with agents in dill is apparently bad, although given their poverty, it is probably possible to find informants. The result is casualties in personnel.
    If everything had been under control, they would have tied them up on the spot or blown up the entire group when trying to open them, and they would have taken the wet ones from Sivash.
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      Why are we minus, comrades?) The man told the truth as it really is seen, apparently God is protecting us hi
      And if this is true, there’s no point in blaming the mirror. But now everyone will look with four eyes.
  69. +1
    August 11 2016
    Quote: revnagan
    .In the event of a forceful decision, “the entire civilized world” will declare Russia an aggressor with all that entails, the population of Ukraine will be told that Russia ATTACKED, and there will be no normal relations between peoples for a very long time after that. This is how, however, Western scriptwriters intended that between Russia and Ukraine has shed blood, and as much as possible

    I completely agree with you.
    +
  70. +2
    August 11 2016
    I do not understand. why a visa regime with Ukraine has not yet been introduced. Everyone understands that the actions of saboteurs in Crimea would be difficult, if not impossible, if in order to enter Crimea it was necessary to obtain permission from the competent authorities.
  71. +1
    August 11 2016
    Putya made a bunch of mistakes: the ministers of defense, agriculture, health, geology (veterinarian), and appointed some unknown ambassador to Ukraine. LADIES some brat. Our factories, mines, mines, and agriculture remained in Ukraine, which we raised throughout the USSR. What, Putya didn’t know about the intrigues of the United States? Now let's clear up the affairs of amateurs.
    1. -1
      August 11 2016
      Oh, another laureate of the dol...s award laughing
  72. 0
    August 11 2016
    Concentrations of militants in the Kherson region are known, as are training camps. Iskander shelling. Statement that the militants who were preparing a terrorist attack were killed, etc. There will be a howl, there will be no militants. It corresponds to the military doctrine, otherwise why was it adopted. Plus information support before the start of shelling against the United States, at the UN, etc.
  73. +2
    August 11 2016
    Gentlemen, there is no need to rush Moscow into an “urgent need.....URGENTLY!!!” Let them bark and bark, YES, we also have losses and sacrifices, BUT, these are our brothers... And kicking your brother out of your family - then EVERYTHING! And the Russian family could not resist?
    Yesterday's family from INGUSHETIA! - showed an EXAMPLE when a twin brother (!) competed for his twin brother in competitions and earned a GOLD medal!!!
    ...
  74. -1
    August 11 2016
    And what is the role in all these events and the allowed war in the CIS of strategic forecasters who missed these political cataclysms and did not promptly submit their proposals for dampening them - neither to the Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces, nor to the RF Parliament?! First of all, this: http://riss.ru/structure/ and http://ac.gov.ru/about/ The CIS was not created in order to hide crimes of ANY nature behind the screen of independence and sovereignty, and in this regard there are a lot of questions for activities of the CIS security forces - No. 9, 10, 59, 60 and 77!: http://www.e-cis.info/page.php?id=2374 Where are their reports to the Russian Parliament and in particular on the implementation of the Federation Council Resolution RF No. 219 of 07.07.2006/94161/206?!: http://zakonbase.ru/content/base/45 The allowed war in the CIS on the territory of Ukraine is an undermining of FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES! War brings suffering and disaster to people, destroys cultural ties, damages economic relationships, and in this regard, a completely justified question arises to such a CIS structure as the CIS Economic Court!: http://www.cis.minsk.by/page. php?id=1945 What is his role and WHO will pay for such damage or are there no such culprits in the CIS?! Further! What kind of “wisdom” is this from the political leadership of Russia that they saved one, in fact a deserter, Yanukovych, and put 47 million citizens of Ukraine at risk of joining NATO?! Maybe the transition of the Baltic states to NATO is already enough?! If the media and Russian officials were chattering at every corner after Yanukovych’s escape about his legitimacy as the President of Ukraine, and therefore the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of this country, then why was his legitimacy given up to the slaughter, essentially, to Bandera’s followers?! Did anyone in Russia really think that the PERMANENT decisions of the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg in 6-4? ceased to have effect in the current history in the sphere of Nazism, and these decisions no longer concern the direct bearers of this ideology?! It turns out that the first tentative step in this regard is the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation, represented by its head S.B. Ivanova has already done so, paying honors to Hitler’s comrade-in-arms Mannerheim in St. Petersburg - both by installing a memorial plaque and passing the Guard of Honor?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nMXDwBXNUMXZXNUMXk By what criteria will we define “mad dogs”, gentlemen?! - What is the Military Oath or has it already become akin to a marriage contract?!
  75. +6
    August 11 2016
    "the long-suffering people of Ukraine"....
    Does anyone else believe this? try talking to the “long-suffering” - you won’t hear anything other than nasty things and “Putin is to blame.” Almost never. a few acquaintances from Ukraine are still “holding on,” but the majority have clearly internalized the message “Russia is the enemy” and “Russia owes us.” This has always been the case - and the further you go, the more it manifests itself
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      and I'm not the only one who sees this
      http://imhoclub.by/ru/material/russkie_oni_ne_bratja_vam
  76. +1
    August 11 2016
    Quote: black
    And you listen carefully to the news. The main intelligence department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces was accused of preparing sabotage.
    Let me correct you a little. Not in preparing sabotage, but in preparing terrorist attacks against civilians! The targets of the terrorists were civilians, tourists, objects of vital activity, and not objects of the RF Armed Forces! (Panov himself admits this) Therefore, those who planned and approved the plan for the operation are also subject to criminal liability under the article “terrorism”. am Although what else can you expect from an organized crime group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? In the Donbass they are fighting with miners, in the Crimea with tourists. am
  77. 0
    August 11 2016
    Kyiv? What does Kyiv have to do with it?
    Was Kyiv also planning Malaysian Boeing?
    What about blowing up the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant? When even the Ukrainian department of the CIA was outraged by the plans of its superiors and made them public.
    The State Department, Langley, the Pentagon, the DPR (Director of National Intelligence) - they are not located in Kyiv.
  78. 0
    August 11 2016
    It was high time to put the rabid Jewish dogs that seized power long ago. I am surprised at Putin's long-suffering.
    I’m still waiting for him to openly, clearly, for the whole world and without diplomatic antics, specifically present the Americans for all the dirty tricks. It will be demonstrative to expose their abominations in a reasoned and frank manner.
    And he will also make a goat face for the vile English girls, so that these animals don’t even have thoughts of yapping in the direction of our Great Power!
  79. 0
    August 11 2016
    But for me, Putin clearly said: Minsk-2 is hopeless, there will be no more diplomacy, terrorists are being trained at the state level. Well, terrorist states are destroyed, this is world practice. And also a personal opinion - they hinted to the “partners”: the client is ripe, we can start deriban, Novorossiya is ours if anything happens.
  80. 0
    August 11 2016
    Quote: VB
    Crossing the state border by a military unit with weapons in hand is an attack on the country. So cross the border of the USA or, for example, Israel, what do you get, and right away?

    You yourself know that the new “state border” at Perekop is not recognized by many countries (the majority). They believe that this is the territory of Ukraine, and naturally the Ukrainian military can roam anywhere. The West will no longer recognize that Crimea is ours, provoking Ukraine .The most interesting thing is that our allies are in no hurry to recognize Crimea. I wish the Belarusian “father” came to Russian Crimea to meet with Putin (and they meet regularly). WEAK!! hi
  81. 0
    August 11 2016
    who is yelling at everyone, smash, shoot, burn....react instantly. In politics, emotions are superfluous. If, as you suggest, we react to every provocation, then we will never get out of wars.
  82. -6
    August 11 2016
    99% of the information was hidden and redone by the FSB in three days. We are provided with a digestible version of the chronology of events. The result: a loud statement from the GDP, footage of a certain amount of a substance similar to explosives and the face of one (!!!) detainee. Lots of inconsistencies. I don’t pretend to be the ultimate truth, but it looks like there was a clash. Moreover, the situation got out of control for some time due to the fault of the FSB. Now everything is being fixed urgently.
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      Well, tell us how it really is, pindoc, promote it for democracy laughing
  83. +1
    August 11 2016
    "It's a Small World" writes:
    ...
    — In 2014, it had already reached the point that shells from the Ukrainian Armed Forces were flying into the territory of the Rostov region. Then we were told that this happened by accident. If something like this happens now, how will we respond?

    “I think that Kiev is counting on Russia to react to provocations with maximum restraint. We don't need a war in Ukraine. Especially in the current foreign policy situation.

    — That is, we will not automatically respond to, say, artillery shelling of our territory in Crimea?

    - Automatically - no. It all depends on the degree of damage caused by the shelling. But Ukrainians should not test our patience. If they make a real attempt at aggression on the territory of Crimea, we will inflict a crushing defeat on the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Moreover, there is a high probability that the armies of the DPR and LPR will go on the offensive and Kyiv will lose new territories.
    ...
    - says Alexander Khramchikhin, head of the analytical department of the Institute of Political and Military Analysis."

    And this is probably true, because it already happened. Within the range of artillery systems of dill, residents of Crimea (and guests) are not guaranteed protection of their lives. Death, injury 1-10-30-...(?) will not be a reason for a retaliatory strike. The damage is not significant...
    Enough diplomatic notes.
  84. +1
    August 11 2016
    Quote: midshipman
    Chabdarov to be convicted and publicly hanged

    One of us was imprisoned for the murder of Russian citizens (journalists) and was pardoned. Her name was Nadya, now she is a “deputy” in Kyiv. negative hi
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Quote: fa2998
      Her name was Nadya, now she is a “deputy” in Kyiv.

      Because of her deputyship they are already climbing the walls there, they say they have replaced her!
  85. 0
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

    Competent behavior of the FSB in such a situation is to invade the neighboring territory for twenty kilometers, bind ALL involved, burn and destroy the entire gangster infrastructure, report on the execution. To warn the kaklovs that each of their outrage will cost them another twenty kilometers of Kaklovsk territory. Here is a literate behavior.


    Why not immediately go to Kuev? Don't waste your time.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Quote: rus-5819
      Don't mess around.

      among the Kuevskys, every day it will explode somewhere, and somewhere it will burn...
      so think about probability theory
  86. +2
    August 11 2016
    My version of the event that happened (as someone living in Ukraine).
    I don't think this was planned by the central government. She is weak and afraid of Russia, despite all the propaganda slogans. He is very afraid, especially in conditions when the West has practically merged.
    In Ukraine, the authorities have little (or even any) control over the situation with all sorts of volunteer formations and volunteers, or indeed the entire situation in the country.
    An example of this is the so-called Tornado company.
    It seems to me that this is an action that a certain group of extremists not controlled by the authorities decided to carry out. The purpose of the action was to create a tense situation in the already poor relations between the countries. Moreover, the day before Zurabov was also recalled.
    It's no secret that there are people who make money from acute situations, conflicts, and troubled waters. This is the action they planned.
    Many on this site think that in Ukraine (except for Donbass and Lugan) everyone is just waiting for Russia to come and take Ukraine over. You are wrong.
    In fact, Ukrainians are generally peace-loving. They don't want to fight. But they don’t want to go to Russia either. Most live by the principle: my house is on the edge!
    But there are plenty of freaks everywhere, both in Ukraine and in Russia.
    These freaks were caught.


    .
    1. +2
      August 11 2016
      They don't want to fight. But they don’t want to go to Russia either. Most live by the principle: my house is on the edge!

      Well done, live like that, but what will your children grow up to be? They will be bullied at school with hatred of Russia, and at 18 they will line up for machine guns. Live on the edge, and your veterans will still be hiding from the “freaks” on May 9. Well done, continue to live with the sole purpose of “having a hearty dinner.” In Russia, too, the idea is not good, but we flutter as best we can. And you live happily - if your conscience allows, after Odessa, after Maidan, after Donbass.
    2. +3
      August 11 2016
      Quote: kvd015
      In fact, Ukrainians are generally peace-loving. They don't want to fight. But they don’t want to go to Russia either. Most live by the principle: my house is on the edge!

      That’s why you have Maidans, people in Donbass are shot with impunity, because...
      - the further into Bandera forest on the way to the EU, the closer my house is to the edge...
  87. -8
    August 11 2016
    People, as always, ate the FSB vomit
    1. -2
      August 11 2016
      It's you, but it's not particularly fresh laughing
  88. 0
    August 11 2016
    Well, according to the rules of veterinary medicine, rabid animals are shot or euthanized, otherwise it is impossible with them
  89. +1
    August 11 2016
    In fact, Ukrainians are generally peace-loving. They don't want to fight. But they don’t want to go to Russia either. Most live by the principle: my house is on the edge!

    It doesn’t work out like that... the house is on the edge.
    because the hut is right in the middle, and it is the hutaskriniki (the silent majority) who are bringing their own country to such ruin...
    gutters and others are simply taking advantage of this, like other unpunished Bandera-fascist urlA.
  90. 0
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: stalkerwalker

    It doesn't seem to work out ....

    So I think it’s not the stadiums that need to be built now sad

    Stadiums are needed, but slightly modified to suit the situation... with mines, infirmaries, air defense, barracks, and cages for rabid...
  91. +1
    August 11 2016
    The FSB, represented by its various departments and services, are great! It wasn't the boys who crossed the border there. The tactics used were very thoughtful.
    My condolences to those who died.
  92. +1
    August 11 2016
    President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin differs from any other presidents and heads of government in his non-standard responses to challenges. This is a characteristic and feature of a real fighter, as opposed to pumped-up hooligans. When Vladimir Vladimirovich said “they won’t get off with tomatoes” ... they didn’t get off. The "calibers" did not fly and the "migas" did not rise. But the political enemy ended up on the “shoulders”, whether someone wanted it or not. Not a single shot was fired and not a single soldier died from a Turkish bullet. This is the highlight of the work of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief. Such people don’t just make statements like that. Now it is clear that there will be no more Minsks. No matter how strange it may seem, this action, suicidal for the Kyiv junta, essentially gave Moscow (that is, us) a free hand. Now the ukroshval will hide for a while and watch "chehgo bude". The political and economic collapse of Banderstan is near. This is his agony. We need to give this fascist idea a chance to burn out. So that the people once and for all realize who is who in this world. And whoever doesn’t understand, Klitschko gave good advice.... “Getting ready for the ground.” And instead of rants on the site, I urge all sensible people of the Russian Federation to support our Supreme Commander-in-Chief, trust him by electing truly worthy people to the government.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Sound and, most importantly, wise words hi
      There are many good qualities and members of VO, but wisdom is often lacking.
  93. 0
    August 11 2016
    Well... They made their move, now the move is ours.
    Look, there is no Russian ambassador to Ukraine.
    Ukraine is clearly pursuing an aggressive policy against us.
    In essence, they are brazenly asking for war.
    As for me, we need to start with strengthening the borders with Ukraine.
    All boundaries, I want to note. Because today it’s Crimea, and tomorrow it’s Rostov or Belgorod.
    And so identify, prick until the very end to identify accomplices
    and post it in general view. So that everyone can clearly understand
    what is Ukraine.
  94. +1
    August 11 2016
    I don't understand this at all. A warring, aggressive country whose course the majority of citizens support.
    What would the neighbors do? First, I think they would introduce a visa regime. Applications would be filled out as for an American visa. Travel by Ukrainian citizens to the annexed Crimea would be generally prohibited, except for humanitarian reasons.
    And here, as always, we invent a bike and pull out the tonsils through the butt. What were you waiting for? At first, accepting refugees was a sacred thing. They allowed the male population to work in the Russian Federation and cut them off from service in the Wehrmacht. Right.
    But when all the local people flocked to Crimea to vacation!! and this is presented as the fact that the Ukrainians seem to be for us - too much. Guys, if 2000 people (for example) cross the border with the aim of holding a sit-in demonstration for the return of Crimea to Ukraine, what will you do!!! This is a disaster. Please turn on your head.
  95. +2
    August 11 2016
    What to do with Kiev mad dog?


    It will die on its own, we have to wait...
  96. -1
    August 11 2016
    All these actions are reaping the fruits of Putin’s INACTION AND CLUELESSNESS during the events in Donbass. At that time, it would have been possible to PAINLESSLY drive tanks to Lvov and liberate all of Ukraine WITHOUT LOSSES or shooting. Then 90% of the Ukrainian army was READY to go over to the side of Russia (as in Crimea). But Putin is timid and did not make such a simple decision. Now he and Russia will be dealing with this problem with Ukraine for HUNDRED YEARS. Many more Russian people will die, and the United States will generally be able, with the help of Ukraine, to UNLEAVE A GLOBAL war in Europe (which they have long dreamed of). And all the stubbornness of the leader who was afraid of “spoiling relations with the West.” Now we see that there are no relations with the West at all and the West is STRONGLY PREPARING a war against Russia.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Come on, the least stubborn one, put on your foot wraps and go)
      How do you like the salary for comments - do they come on cards or in cash? laughing
  97. -4
    August 11 2016
    Kyiv analysts are so far correct in saying that Moscow cannot respond with anything other than chatter, as it is intimidated by the reaction of the West, which encourages military action against Moscow.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Hahaha, clown)) A creature who looks up to the Kyiv “analysts” is a homosexual by definition laughing
  98. 0
    August 11 2016
    Comrades, explain to me, a person who doesn’t know anything, why DRGs need black pepper, why they need Monkeys, Efkis, plastids, detonators and the rest is clear, but about pepper it’s not clear)
    1. +4
      August 11 2016
      The main tool for finding these monoks, efoks, plastids and detonators are dogs! Pepper is just right for them.
      1. 0
        August 11 2016
        Well, that's pretty much what I assumed) thanks
    2. 0
      August 11 2016
      What’s unclear? The woodpecker bird loves spicy food. Apparently, in computer shooters, couch super soldiers are not armed with pepper spray.
  99. 0
    August 11 2016
    Kyiv analysts can chatter whatever they want. “Genius is not the one who gave wise advice, but the one who took responsibility” (N. Bonaparte) It is very easy for someone to shoot at their brotherly people, but I am not satisfied with the analogy with the eternal conflict Jews with their Palestinian brothers...Perhaps large states are obliged to bear greater responsibility...
    1. +4
      August 11 2016
      Quote: geologist
      Probably large states are obliged to bear greater responsibility...

      What responsibility does the people bear who elected an illegitimate oligarch president (to replace the overthrown one), who is waging a war against his own people in the Donbass, who robs his people with crazy payments for housing and communal services (I don’t even mention medicine), who called the murderers of his own people heroes - from Bandera to the heroes of the ATO "???
      You are as close to the Jews as walking to Berlin....
      1. +1
        August 11 2016
        My uncle walked to Berlin in 1945, another fell on the Grafskaya pier in Sevastopol... the third burned down in a dive bomber, my grandfather stood to death near Leningrad...
        +++++++
        I am against war, but the motto of our family is "Don't retreat"
  100. +1
    August 11 2016
    Well, I don’t want to go to Great Russia!!!!!!!!!!!
    So tell me, inhabitants of the site - if your wife or husband does not want to live with you, what will you do? Force her to live with you? And what will this lead to?
    1. +5
      August 11 2016
      Quote: kvd015
      Well, I don’t want to go to Great Russia

      Are you needed here?
      1. +3
        August 11 2016
        Quote: kvd015
        Well, I don’t want to go to Great Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

        So no one is dragging you. Where do Svidomo have such delusions of grandeur?
        You’ve been in an ice hole for 25 years, rushing here yourself and yelling that you don’t want to live here...
        Well, we’re going from construction sites and metal collection points - and go home, America is with you.
    2. 0
      August 11 2016
      Quote: kvd015
      Well, I don’t want to go to Great Russia!!!!!!!!!!!

      Sit right where you are, and grab your brothers from Russia who are working on you. Europe doesn't need you, and especially not us! When the time comes, you want to eat, where do you go? To the Poles? To Canada? To the Belarusians?
      No, probably to Italy, they are waiting for you there, believe me. Accelerate!
      But believe me (I would use obscene language), you yourself will rush in with the eyes of an angel, they say, “Hello brothers”
    3. +1
      August 12 2016
      Do the People of Donbass want to live in Ukraine?
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