New "prophecies" about Russia: everyone will die out ... like dinosaurs

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About a quarter of a century has passed since the collapse of the USSR, and one of the most frequently covered topics of the entire post-Soviet period is the demographic situation in the country. All sorts of professional experts, as well as “amateurs” who are interested in the issue, systematically issued and continue to issue their predictions about what the dynamics of Russia's population are expected in the medium and long term. And if we analyze the statements of forecasters from 1991 to today, we can only be surprised about how we (the citizens of Russia) have not yet died out ... Like those dinosaurs ...

In fact, not only foreign, but actually Russian, experts (or “experts” - in quotes) predicted that by 2010, Russia would have lost about 40-50 millions of people by the year, which was associated with the level of child mortality and serious problems in the field of health care, and with the lack of adequate support from the state bodies, and with “total Russian drunkenness”, which they most liked to talk about in the liberal press for “a glass of tea” in the studio ...

On the demographic problems of Russia did not argue just lazy. Both patriots, liberals, believers, atheists, Russophiles, and Russophobes hit upon reasoning and the statement of the facts of population decline in the country. And if some considered these issues from the point of view of the tragedy looming over the country and its population, others only rubbed their hands with pleasure, getting acquainted with the next report of Rosstat.

At times, consideration of the topic was conducted in such a way that, as they say, down and feathers flew. Discussions gained momentum, and far from always the statement of facts was poured into any real proposals for correcting the situation. Something abstract from the category sounded and continues to sound: “to raise the prestige of a large family”, and all in the same spirit. But how to raise, to whom to raise and to what level to raise? - not everyone wanted to dive into such deep things, because there are already specific questions that require specific answers too. Much better for the army of experts was simply to exercise in the "Vangovaniya" regarding how many Russians "stay" in the country.

And when you get acquainted with another material that the demographic abyss is about to engulf Russia, you involuntarily think: how much can you go to this kind of horror stories, and when the expert community has already abandoned the ungrateful (and fortunately, in this case) prediction and going to the livelihood?

The other day in the newspaper "News" An interview with the Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the Institute for Demography, Migration and Regional Development Yury Krupnov was published, in which he expresses the opinion that in 10 years, "Russia will find itself in a demographic hole that will be even deeper than the previous one."

A demographic specialist, who is also a member of the Federal Council of the Cause Party, states that "the country is bogged down in the migrant economy," that "waves of visitors from Central Asian countries have exhausted themselves," and that "in 2018, negotiations will begin with China on the relocation of 10-15 million people to Russia. " The main argument of his statements, Yuri Krupnov, is the decrease in the number of women of reproductive age, which was the result of a previous demographic gap. According to the statements of the NA Chairman of the Institute of Demography, in comparison with 2012, the number of newborns will fall by no less than 40% at a birth rate of no more than 1,8 of a child per 1 Russian woman.

Many of the points outlined in the interview with Yury Krupnov are certainly worthy of discussion. And migration waves, and a possible decline in fertility rates. But only there is a noteworthy nuance: criticize, just offer it.

We get acquainted with offers:
It is necessary to cultivate a large multi-generation family as the only way to avoid a catastrophe. And a huge stream of surcharges, benefits, etc. in a special degree to direct to the four-child family.


Unfortunately, in the “Izvestia” material the information about what kind of “colossal flow of additional payments, benefits, etc.” was not mentioned. This is the first. Secondly, many of our readers are well aware that there are, let's say, special categories of citizens for whom the current “supplements and benefits” were not an obstacle to having 4's and more children, whose upbringing was shifted to other people's shoulders. Separate mothers in this situation do not particularly think about family planning (and indeed about family as such), keep in their mind the idea that a child (be it first, third, though 10) can be turned over to an orphanage state security, eliminating from his education and development. And, based on the practice of communicating with such mothers, it can be stated that even if the state brings manna from heaven to their heads, their attitude towards the family, as to the same unit of society, is unlikely to change. It’s another thing to provide targeted support to families who see in themselves the health, strength and desire not only to give birth to 3's and more children, but also to adequately raise them. But with address support, there are serious problems in our state - in fact, it is absent as such.

From the statement of Yuri Krupnov (not for Izvestia):
The country is dying, and frostbitten liberals and traditionalist breeders scream heart-rendinglywithout in any way referring to the tragic reality ... I DON'T DO DEMAND DEMO, that's what happens. We need to bet on a large multi-generation Russian family ... The era of global small families and the extinction of all humanity is coming, and Russia can save the whole world if it organizes a demographic revolution correctly.

Of course, it would be foolish to feel the utmost delight from the actions of state power in demographic terms, but to share the idea that "demographics DO NOT (as much as a kapslok)," frankly, it is strange. Even if you risk in this situation to be in the number of “heart-rending screaming frostbitten liberals and traditionalist brides”, according to Yury Krupnov ...

In recent years, dozens of perinatal centers with modern equipment have been opened all over the country, allowing nursing (and after all really nursing) five-month newborns who would have been doomed 10 years ago.

New "prophecies" about Russia: everyone will die out ... like dinosaurs


The infant mortality rate in the absolute majority of Russian regions over the past 8-10 years has decreased by more than 50%. Against this background, for the first time, the average life expectancy in the country reached values ​​in 71,4. The mortality rate at working age in the 2015 year relative to the 2014 year decreased by 4,5%. From January to June of 2016, there is an increase in the birth rate in 32 subjects of the Russian Federation and a decrease in the mortality rate in 77 subjects of the Russian Federation.

And all this is the Rosstat data - they are not taken, as they say, from the ceiling, unlike Yury Krupnov’s statements that in the 2018 year Russia will begin to ask 10-15 million Chinese to move to Siberia and the Far East ...

By the way, about the migration exchange with foreign countries and with the same China. So, from January to May 2016 in Russia arrived on a migration basis 3288 citizens of the PRC, and 3621 departed. That is, the tendency to "million hordes", to put it mildly, is not detected. As with the considered demographic indicators, it is not found that there is no need to ask someone "on the side" to settle Russia ...

One could believe in the forecast that a “demographic failure” really expects Russia soon, if, for example, one does not pay attention to the fact that such a horror story is by no means the first in the biography of the same Yuri Krupnova. In 2005, his “Demographic Doctrine of Russia” was published, which began with the following words:

At present, an epidemic of super-mortality and an extremely low birth rate is observed in the Russian Federation. Without any exaggeration, it should be said: Russia is dying out. (...) According to UN forecasts, by the middle of this century, the population of Russia may be less than 100 million people.


Oh, so these forecasters ...



There is really no need to deny the demographic problems in the country (they exist, and there are a lot of them), but for some reason the material from such experts has still not come out about how Russia managed to avoid falling into the demographic abyss, unlike, for example, Ukraine or the European Union Baltic countries, where the population today corresponds to the level of 50-60-s of the last century.

The good news is that in Yury Krupnov’s brochure from 2005, the subject proposals were sounded: a house for a large family, a personal allowance to each member of a large family in the amount of the average salary, a personal state report for mothers with many children, etc.

All this is beautiful, but only so much it gives populism. After all, you can create a program in which you declare, for example, that all large families need to be exempted from paying any taxes, allocate not one house, but five at once, as well as a car, an apartment, a summer residence and a pension in the amount of a controlling stake in Gazprom. But this is all you need to implement. Perhaps the party to which the forecaster-demographer, Yuri Krupnov, belongs, can offer an economic basis for solving such problems. However ... Surprise ... All-Russian political party "Party of affairs", as evidenced by its official site, will not take part in elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation in 2016, and will not support any of the political parties in the elections. How "will not"? And who will then embody the voiced ideas into reality? What a strange self-withdrawal against the background of the announced initiatives?

Forgive generously, but with such an approach it is possible to rivet such forecasts and programs (up to the milk rivers and the dairy banks to all pregnant women) that will not seem like a little. All the same, because the responsibility is zero. Both for the forecast itself, and for the implementation of the designated plans. So, maybe in our country there are no more problems with demographics, but with responsibility?
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  1. +16
    August 11 2016
    Well, what can you say the Western soothsayers are worthless .. Do not wait! Only after you ..
    1. +13
      August 11 2016
      Quote: dmi.pris
      Well, what can you say the Western soothsayers are worthless .. Do not wait! Only after you ..

      And nothing needs to be said. After the same-sex marriages were allowed in the EU countries, the birth rate of same-sex children increased sharply. Now in the EU there are problems with an excess of the population. And if, honestly, there is a lot of electoral nonsense, and there will be a lot of such nonsense from different parties, on different topics.
      1. +21
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Amurets
        the birth rate of same-sex children has risen sharply

        and before the children were bisexual?)
        1. +5
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Shick
          Quote: Amurets
          the birth rate of same-sex children has risen sharply

          and before the children were bisexual?)

          Sorry, a stylistic mistake. Fertility in same-sex families has risen sharply.

          Quote: Shick
          there is a problem and it is on the face

          Here is the problem not only of the Russian Federation, but also of other European countries. And you need to look at the statistics, from where and what is the population growth in Europe.
          1. +11
            August 11 2016
            Many times Russia was buried with different forecasts, this forecast also awaits - Russia was and will be.
            1. +5
              August 11 2016
              Well, if buried many times, then, as they say, we will live a long time!
              Good day!
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          3. +2
            August 12 2016
            Sorry, a stylistic mistake. Fertility in same-sex families has risen sharply.


            WHAT IS IT LIKE!?!
        2. +1
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Shick
          and before the children were bisexual?

          Much earlier, in ancient Greece: "Hermaphrodite (ancient Greek Έρμαφρόδιτος) is a character in ancient Greek mythology" / Pedivikia /.
          Here's another: http://tainyvselennoi.ru/blog/43799577176/Lyudi-germafrodityi?page=2#42838289916

          "South African runner Caster Semenya has become the most famous hermaphrodite in sports in recent years. At first, after a series of tests, she was classified as a woman. Then no one attached any importance. The flame flared up a few months later when on August 19, 2009 Semenya won the gold medal in running 800 meters at the World Championships in Berlin, when many journalists drew attention, in particular, to the apparent absence of female features in the figure and appearance of the athlete.
          After that, Semenya underwent a series of tests, which showed that the athlete's level of the male hormone testosterone is off scale. However, later, as a result of gender tests, it was proved that Semenya is a woman. "
          1. +3
            August 11 2016
            I'll tell you a secret. Only you do not tell anyone. )))
            Making of you or me a hermaphrodite in a MEDICINAL way is NOT DIFFICULT. It will take time and observation of specialists.
            Most of these technologies have found application in sports. Moreover, "one-sided" - more often from a girl, if she has the appropriate sexual characteristics, "make a boy", but "she" continues to compete in the female categories.
            The fact is that EVERYONE has both male and female hormones in the body.
            Suppressing some and enhancing the action of others, you can "correct the sex."
            This is used by 95% of the so-called. "jocks". And the peasants. By muffling the level of progesterone in the body. and it is important - NOT TAKING STIMULATING DRUGS, as if prohibited in sports, achieve better results in building muscle mass.
            This is the case with Serena Williams. With the help of drugs, the effect of female hormones is reduced, and male ones themselves begin to become more active. The results are already visible to a non-specialist. The consequences will be sad.
            Gender tests have been conducted for a long time, since the 60s. Then the Germans, with their farm, began to "cheat" with the athletes. Later, the tests are more and more improved, but are still poorly linked to legal issues.
            There are still disputes about the gender of the famous Soviet athletes, sisters Tamara and Irina Press. Athletes took gold at the Olympics in 1960 and 1964. and prepared to participate in the 1968 competitions. But then a mandatory test for gender was announced, after which the sisters unexpectedly abandoned their plans. And although the journalists did not have any evidence, they were immediately called the “Press brothers” in the Western media, and sports doctors claimed that the Press were hermaphrodites. In 1966, the sisters unexpectedly ended their sports career.
            Entangled in gene troubles, at the end of the last century, the IOC decided not to conduct a gender test without fail. During and after the Sydney Olympics, gender studies are conducted only at the request of doubting athletes or officials.

            Gender research is no longer just a test or examination. Several experts are gathering: there must be a gynecologist, an endocrinologist, a psychologist and a number of experts. They conduct a number of studies: analyze DNA, measure hormone levels, examine an athlete, and a psychologist talks to him. After this panel of specialists comes to the conclusion whether this athlete can compete in the women's competition or not.
            And in the opinion of such testers, Semenya is a "modified" MAN.
            1. -1
              August 11 2016
              Looked at the pictures of Semen. With a man it is difficult to confuse. And Wiki says that this is a female Olympic champion. Hm ...
      2. +3
        August 11 2016
        This nerd would describe Chinese problems with demography, we’ll survive nothing and this misfortune, you just have to make children and not be lazy!
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          Making children is not a tricky thing, you still need to feed these children, put them on their feet, bring them up, but many, unfortunately, are not ready for this.
    2. +3
      August 11 2016
      there is a problem and it is on the face
      enough patriotism cheers
      if the birth rate is slightly improved, it is only due to the fact that they began to give birth to the second (mat capital) and again, who for the most part began to give birth to the first and cannot give the mind .. and this is a fact and it’s stupid to challenge it
      the state itself does not create the prerequisites for creating a large family, plus the imposed Western "values" in the form of gays and others.
      First of all, it is necessary that everything be done for people, even if health care was normal
      1. +11
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Shick
        who began to give birth and they can’t give the first mind .. and this is a fact and it’s stupid to challenge it

        Put yourself such a fact in one place, about those who began to give birth to the second. fool
        1. +2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Shove yourself such a fact in one place

          Zhenya, he was banned by the censor, he came here
        2. +3
          August 11 2016
          Vladimir.

          Birth control can be created administratively. In the sense of birth control.

          But under the conditions of a crappy economic system, capitalism, in most people there is a deliberate restriction on the birth of children. Since there is not enough material resources for reproduction, education education.

          I remind you that the economic system is characterized by a method of redistributing material resources.

          Capitalism is the enrichment of units with the impoverishment of the vast majority.

          Socialism is a guarantee of more than a minimum for planning the future of the majority.
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: gladcu2
            Birth control can be created administratively. In the sense of birth control.

            But under the conditions of a crappy economic system, capitalism, in most people there is a deliberate restriction on the birth of children. Since there is not enough material resources for reproduction, education education.

            I remind you that the economic system is characterized by a method of redistributing material resources.

            Capitalism is the enrichment of units with the impoverishment of the vast majority.

            Socialism is a guarantee of more than a minimum for planning the future of the majority.

            I do not need scientific calculations, the person, in fact, blamed the stupidity of everyone who has two children or more.
      2. c3r
        +15
        August 11 2016
        Please answer for yourself in matters of upbringing! No need to generalize, comparing with your environment! I and my friends have two children, and some have nothing more, they bring up! Whoever wants and can, he counts on himself, and state support uses it as an additional reserve. And if you work and bring up laziness, then there’s nothing to blame for the state, which has done a lot for restoration in recent 10 years.
        1. +1
          August 11 2016
          c3r

          Now you have touched on the principle of a much larger concept. This is called liability.

          Responsibility is the starting point of morality. Morality is a product of habitat education. Your family, your life. Street, occupation, work of your parents.

          Responsibility cannot be paid financially. If a person has responsibility, then for the employer it does not matter how much he will pay the employee, rather less than more. And on the other hand, if the employee does not have responsibility, then even if he is paid lard, it is the money thrown away.

          The only way to increase responsibility is through physical action. Well, everyone also remembers the repression. On the other hand, in adulthood, you will no longer have a bati who will take a belt and CUT on the ass, for socks dropped to the floor or an unmade bed.
          And the employer will just fire you. And he will be right.
      3. +2
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Shick
        if the birth rate is slightly improved, it is only due to the fact that they began to give birth to the second (mat capital) and again, who for the most part began to give birth to the first and cannot give the mind .. and this is a fact and it’s stupid to challenge it

        Some have four and are all right with the mind.
        First of all, it is necessary that everything be done for people, even if health care was normal

        Compare infant mortality in Russia and the United States, perhaps wonder.
      4. +9
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Shick
        who, for the most part, began to give birth, who cannot give the first mind .. and this is a fact and it’s stupid to challenge it

        It seems to you that you weren’t given a mind. request And this is an indisputable fact. Yes
      5. +2
        August 11 2016
        Actually, it’s not about mat capital. My great-grandfather in Saratov province had eight children, and, according to the late grandfather, he clicked on the foreheads for girls and boys in a wooden spoon at the table, and in the USSR there were ten mother-in-law in the USSR. And no state helped them. Mother-Heroine ... I was only able to get a 3-room apartment in Soviet times, and what kind of benefits.
    3. +6
      August 11 2016
      As long as such beautiful girls live in Russia, the Russians are not threatened with extinction and all "analysts" will go nuts. smile
      1. +7
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Blackberry
        While such beautiful girls live in Russia

        Now look at school graduates - you will see that the situation is changing. There are fewer beautiful ones.
        According to the article -
        In recent years, dozens of perinatal centers have been opened across the country with modern equipment that allows nursing (and they really care) five month old babiesthat 10 years ago would have been simply doomed.
        My opinion: not given by God, no need to care. Sounds cruel, but it makes sense. A genetically mined premature baby will be flawed, and is unlikely to give healthy offspring in the future.
        In general, in our country more attention is paid to people with disabilities, and healthy families are really almost without support. But the health of the nation depends on them. Matcapital is more a one-time handout of the state than real help. Dressing up a child and putting him to school is an impossible task for an average family. And another mess with textbooks; Each year, different schools have their own textbooks. Attempts of the deputy Spring to achieve a unified textbook are broken down on the thresholds of the Ministry of Education.
        So Yuri Krupnov is right, in vain Volodin clung to him. hi
        1. +6
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Now look at school graduates - you will see that the situation is changing. There are fewer beautiful ones.
          A genetically mined premature baby will be flawed, and is unlikely to give healthy offspring in the future.

          Whom we call "healthy". This is such a pink-cheeked plump bump. Who's 12-year-old ass is wider than mom's.
          And the fact that he has already begun to rot from the inside, the doctors will never say.
          At 35 diabetes from tons of sugar, at 45 myocardial arrhythmia from the "couch-machine" lifestyle, at 55 varicose veins from elephant weight.
          AND BORN him "healthy" and from "healthy".
          When talking about the HEALTH of the nation, as an experiment, you need to go not to the fitness room, where the percentage of the population is scanty, but to the beach.
          That's where the "walrus rookery" is.
          Few adults swim, play volleyball, etc.
          They lie, eat, look at the phone and are touched by their likes.
          Humanity is rapidly growing fat. Thus degenerates.
          Here, neither God, nor the state, nor medicine can influence.
          First, the brain disappeared. And in its place came consumerism.
          1. +6
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Trick Shot
            First, the brain disappeared. And in its place came consumerism.

            I agree. As Fursenko said: "We need a competent consumer."
            But health still plays a huge role, everyone understands this with their head. After all, when we plant potatoes, garlic, onions, we all try to choose the best samples for seeds. My opinion is that very premature babies and children with birth defects should be deprived of the possibility of procreation, banally sterilizing them. They will be able to live life to the fullest, but not to continue the race. Cynically? Yes, but fair. I have two living examples when people with birth defects gave birth to even more defective children, although the second parent was absolutely healthy. And this is a crime against nature and the conscious doom of a child to suffering. hi
            1. +1
              August 11 2016
              Igor, I completely agree with you about inferior parents, we have a dwarf in our city, he married a healthy girl, and their children are the same dwarfs.
              As for the marriage of people from different races, I can’t say anything definite. Recently I took my 8 year old son to Victory Park in Yerevan, where there are fascinating attractions for children. The son began to buy tickets for himself and the girl who "liked" him wink . It turned out that she was the daughter of Russian military personnel, her parents were Buryats, I met them, they were wonderful people. But as it were, to put it mildly, they are typical Mongoloids, my wife almost threw a tantrum. I, of course, understand that the 8-year-old son will not marry a Buryatka now smile , but in the future what should be done? The son will grow up and maybe meet his other half, for example, the same from the Mongoloids, and what will you order to do? My son is very nimble and if he "puts" his eye on something, he will certainly achieve his, he can no longer be dissuaded.
              1. +2
                August 11 2016
                Quote: Blackberry
                My son is very nimble and if he "puts" his eye on something, he will definitely achieve his

                May you live happily ever after! Read from L.N. Gumilyov about the complementarity / complementarity of Russians and Mongols / Buryats.
                Quote: Blackberry
                you can’t dissuade him.

                "It is not given to us to predict how our word will respond ..." (FI Tyutchev).
                Do not "worry". If the parents are correct, then the guy's family will be correct.
        2. +3
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Now look at school graduates - you will see that the situation is changing. There are fewer beautiful ones.

          Aging, squeamish wink
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          My opinion: not given by God, no need to care. Sounds cruel, but it makes sense. A genetically mined premature baby will be flawed, and is unlikely to give healthy offspring in the future.

          There have been experiments in history. The Spartans dumped such from the rocks. So that the gene pool would not be littered. The Nazis also cleansed their race from inferior ones. Then they tried to rid the world of inferior peoples. And in Russia for some reason they did not touch the blessed. Quite the contrary. It is not necessary to remind the name of the temple on Red Square.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          In general, in our country more attention is paid to people with disabilities, and healthy families are really almost without support

          You are completely off topic. As for the disabled.

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          P.S. I have two girls from my first marriage and one from the second. On the way, another .... And I wanted a son ... crying

          So, it’s definitely not quite the old man! wink They still do not understand that this is not important. It is important that they are. And what they raised, then you’ll understand.
          1. +1
            August 11 2016
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            And in Russia for some reason they did not touch the blessed. Quite the contrary. It is not necessary to remind the name of the temple on Red Square.

            They did not touch the blessed, but they did not allow the holy fools to multiply. The temple then has a different basic name, it was called in the name of the blessed one ... they’d like to rename the Nemtsov bridge where they killed Nemtsov.
  2. +10
    August 11 2016
    I sat until the morning at the computer. Now I’m going to run a demographic program.
    1. +2
      August 11 2016
      Quote: armored optimist
      I sat until the morning at the computer. Now I’m going to run a demographic program.

      Sitting at the computer does not contribute to the implementation of the demographic program! wink
      1. +3
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Blackberry
        Sitting at the computer does not contribute to the implementation of the demographic program!

        Blood stasis in the pelvic area leads to a deterioration in sexual function and a decrease in the quality of the seed. Medical fact. good
        1. +1
          August 11 2016
          Another medical fact -
          Even 8 hours of sitting are easily compensated by 2 hours of activity. There is a process of blood accumulation and with constant, adaptation of the body to VARIABLE loads.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AkRAAI9h84
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: Trick Shot
            Even 8 hours of sitting are easily compensated by 2 hours of activity.

            Truckers will not agree with you. laughing
  3. +21
    August 11 2016
    What is needed is work, affordable housing, confidence in the future, normal child allowances, government stimulation of families giving birth to children! Will be - the population of Russia is more than 200 million in the near future!
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      What is needed is work, affordable housing, confidence in the future, normal child allowances, government stimulation of families giving birth to children! Will be - the population of Russia is more than 200 million in the near future!

      Plus, good Free healthcare and education! How to solve the demographic problem, when even kindergartens are not enough ????
      1. +1
        August 11 2016
        Yes, something must be decided with the migration legislation! How many Russians ended up outside of Russia with the collapse of the USSR? My friends from northern Kazakhstan, for eight years received citizenship of the Russian Federation, left on Komsomol vouchers, to raise the virgin lands!
        1. -3
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Hunter
          Need - work, affordable housing, confidence in the future, normal child benefits, the state stimulation of families giving birth to children

          Quote: Hunter
          Plus, good free healthcare and education

          Quote: Hunter
          Yes, something must be decided with the migration legislation!

          You will be supplanted by such Zimbabwean blacks on your land within 3 generations. They don’t need anything at all.
    2. -11
      August 11 2016
      If you do not attach anything, then there will be 200 million neither in the nearest nor in the far.
    3. +8
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      What is needed is work, affordable housing, confidence in the future, normal child allowances, government stimulation of families giving birth to children! Will be - the population of Russia is more than 200 million in the near future!

      That's why all this will not happen. 15–20 million Russians are enough for the occupation authorities to extract resources. The rest, globalists have long decided - where ... In my opinion, such esteemed gentlemen as globalizers, must give way.
    4. 0
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Hunter
      What is needed is work, affordable housing, confidence in the future, normal child allowances, government stimulation of families giving birth to children!

      It’s necessary, but we also need control over some people who love the process stupidly, but not the children and their upbringing, or just making children in alcohol intoxication, we must apparently somehow sterilize them artificially at least temporarily (5-10 years) so as not to multiply the number of street children and patients with various abnormalities, the care of which will then fall on the state.
    5. +3
      August 11 2016
      Correct, and most important of all conditions - CONFIDENCE IN TOMORROW. In Soviet times, in the mid-80s, the birth rate jumped quite sharply, my wife could hardly find a place in the hospital, because after Brezhnev left the people had hope for a change for the better, unfortunately, not for long.
  4. +3
    August 11 2016
    As Mark Twain used to say, the rumors about my death are greatly exaggerated ... and here ..
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      It was Bernard Shaw.
      1. +2
        August 11 2016
        From the telegram of the American writer Mark Twain to the Associated Press agency .. The story of this phrase is such that the writer, having learned that the editorial office of the newspaper is asking for a telegram of a certain journalist ... urgently reporting on the death of M. Twain, he sends a telegram to the editorial office with the words " The rumors about my death are greatly exaggerated. "
        1. -2
          August 11 2016
          Quote: parusnik
          From the telegram of the American writer Mark Twain to the Associated Press agency .. The story of this phrase is such that the writer, having learned that the editorial office of the newspaper is asking for a telegram of a certain journalist ... urgently reporting on the death of M. Twain, he sends a telegram to the editorial office with the words " The rumors about my death are greatly exaggerated. "

          Napoleon was right, as always. It was Mark Twain!
  5. +2
    August 11 2016
    If the forecaster is incompetent or simply lying, then it is enough to present the growth charts of the number of Russians and if there is a tendency to exceed the birth rate versus mortality among the native population of mother Russia, then there’s nothing more to say.
  6. +5
    August 11 2016
    Survival in us is increased ....!
  7. +10
    August 11 2016
    And a huge flow of surcharges, benefits, etc. to a special degree be sent to a four-child family.
    What the hell is a huge stream of bonuses and benefits? Stupidly kindergartens are not enough. What a tremendous flow this is if care allowance is paid before 1,5 years, and kindergarten is given in 3-4 years? How should mom earn a living from 1,5 to 4?
    1. +2
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Alex_59
      What a tremendous flow this is if care allowances are paid up to 1,5 years,

      Well, the benefits there are ridiculous - especially if the mother did not work before childbirth, or the salary was below average, so they give for seeds or apparently to cover the rent for a child. There is a problem with kindergartens because in the 2000s, places for gardens were stupidly sold to businessmen for offices and high-rise buildings, those that were able and managed to be demolished. Developers often buy off with live money or transfers with the city, which then stupidly evaporate in the municipalities.
    2. +1
      August 11 2016
      I’ve always been wondering, why should my mother even earn money? What is her husband for? But why is the husband s / n lower than necessary? I think it will be better. Mothers sit with their children in the yard, and their husbands provide food. It remains only to adjust the entire economic base for this. (((
  8. -2
    August 11 2016
    There was another accusation, naturally, of the tsar’s tsar’s king of de strangling science by transferring money to defense. These are the institutes ... Lenin put them on a ship and sent them to Germany. Come on, they teach the Germans. And now it’s easier: he closed the institute of sociology, demography, and chrenology, and let these brains drain to the west, ruin Soros.
    And officials in Moscow and the provincial centers to reduce by five times.
    This is demography!
    These are the main bloodsuckers of the people. They translate the whole initiative into pieces of paper: reports, protocols, acts, orders ...
    To build factories for them, GPTU, Nehai learn to think with their heads and work with their hands. And then they lead their hands, but they eat their heads.
  9. +9
    August 11 2016
    Population decline is not so scary in itself. Terrible replacement of the indigenous population with more reproductive peoples. I will not indicate anyone, but such peoples are also in our country. This substitution is already clearly visible in the TFR.
  10. 0
    August 11 2016
    Why does the author compare with Ukraine or the Baltic states? Why not with Belarus or Kazakhstan?
  11. +4
    August 11 2016
    Here it is important to note the following: what is written with a pen cannot be cut down with an ax. So someone needs to keep these two articles and wait until the appointed date. And see who is right and to what extent! Then it will be necessary to return to this topic and ... again write the corresponding article - "Do you remember!" This is the only way to achieve at least some balance from analysts, who very often replace serious research with their personal experience and opinion.
  12. -10
    August 11 2016
    According to the chairman of the National Assembly of the Institute of Demography, in comparison with 2012, the number of newborns will fall by no less than 40% with a birth rate of not more than 1,8 children per 1 Russian woman.

    Actually dropped to 1.67
    fertility rate
    1. +6
      August 11 2016
      Quote: professor
      Actually dropped to 1.67

      From Israel it is more visible, especially if you graze in English-speaking Saits. Do not die out there in the desert.
    2. -7
      August 11 2016

      Who is it in the quiet of the emergency scribbling?
      Figures are stubborn things. In the desert it turns out not so bad climate. We look at the schedule and learn:
      Russia vs. Israel
      1. +3
        August 11 2016
        Oleg, the statistics are not complete. Russia is "accused" that the main growth is due to the republics of the North Caucasus Federal District. And on your curve, break into orthodox not orthodox. I'm not sure, but in my opinion the result will not be so rosy. Do you also have propaganda for "free love"? I remember in Israel, on the eve of Sochi, marches of protests of all sexual obscenities were held. So why do you have such indicators?
        1. -6
          August 11 2016
          Quote: alexej123
          lay down, and the statistics are not complete. Russia is "accused" that the main growth is due to the republics of the North Caucasus Federal District.

          1. The statistics are complete.
          2. Republic of the North-Caucasian Federal District is not Russia?

          Quote: alexej123
          And according to your curve, break into orthodoxy not orthodoxy. Not sure, but in my opinion the result will not be so rosy.

          Orthodox are citizens of the country. Let them multiply.

          Quote: alexej123
          Do you also have propaganda for "free love"?

          No. We have a propaganda "to multiply and multiply".

          Quote: alexej123
          I remember in Israel, on the eve of Sochi, marches of protests of all sexual indecency took place. So due to what do you have such indicators?

          Gay parades have been held so and are being held. They, if they affect fertility, are only positive. Gap pattern? wink
          We have the highest rates among developed countries since we IMHO love children. I repeat, the neighbor opposite has 6 children, on the left 5, on the right 3, through house 4 and none of them has ever been Orthodox.
          1. +6
            August 11 2016
            Quote: professor
            We have a propaganda "to multiply and multiply".

            Fruits and multiplies fellow Scammers screamed at a geo-parade in Israel laughing
          2. +4
            August 11 2016
            Professor, I totally agree with you! You have to love children. I have three, I think, is not enough, but in the 90s we had such a number "not to raise." Nothing, they didn't swell from hunger. I envy that the rate of population growth in Israel is actually high. But I like the Israeli army much more. We're on IN!
            1. 0
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              But much more I like the Israeli army. We are in!

              An army without demography? request
          3. +8
            August 11 2016
            I have one friend with four children, three of them three and two are thinking about the fourth! something like that!
          4. +4
            August 11 2016
            Quote: professor
            We have the highest rates among developed countries since we IMHO love children.

            In almost all articles and comments they write about two problems - the decrease in the population (with a focus on the workable) and the aging of the nation. They do not write about happiness. You, and then briefly touched. Consider almost the only comment on this topic.
            Supporters of one child see their child’s happiness in material wealth. But for some reason they don’t understand what happiness is to have siblings. And how can this help them in adulthood. When the parents are gone.
            And difficulties- whoever does not know grief, does not fully know happiness. So I think.
            There is an article on Rambler about why women do not want to give birth (interview with 40-year-olds). Selfishness. And, after all, they rob themselves.
            The role of the state in solving this problem is important. More important is the moral and ethical side.
            PS Yesterday, the granddaughter herself stood on her feet for the first time. Happy! I’m waiting for the fourth replenishment in a couple of months.
            1. +2
              August 11 2016
              An excellent commentary, the movement in Russian transcription of Child free-deeply immoral teaching in essence.
              In my opinion, it is simply necessary in Russia to legally prohibit the sect of these obscurantists; you will not otherwise define the idea of ​​those who introduced it into society.
          5. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: professor
            We have the highest rates among developed countries since we IMHO love children. I repeat, the neighbor opposite has 6 children, on the left 5, on the right 3, through house 4 and none of them has ever been Orthodox.

            Soon it will be necessary to expand the living space.
            1. -4
              August 11 2016
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Soon it will be necessary to expand the living space.

              Do not have to. There will be enough space for many generations to come.
              1. +3
                August 11 2016
                Enough space - an example of Japan. That grub will suddenly end ...
                And drinking water will not be cheaper than cognac.
                And the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere will be in short supply ...
              2. 0
                August 12 2016
                Quote: professor
                Do not have to. There will be enough space for many generations to come.

                This generation is about 20 years, if the population of Israel will continue to increase by 2% per year, then after 5 generations, about 30 million will live in Israel, but it will be crowded.
                In vain the Sinai Peninsula was given away; it was a legitimate trophy.
                1. +1
                  August 13 2016
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  Quote: professor
                  Do not have to. There will be enough space for many generations to come.

                  This generation is about 20 years, if the population of Israel will continue to increase by 2% per year, then after 5 generations, about 30 million will live in Israel, but it will be crowded.
                  In vain the Sinai Peninsula was given away; it was a legitimate trophy.

                  1. Our generation is not 20 years old, but 27.3.
                  2. Every Jew will find a place in Israel. No matter how many there are. Negev is big.
                  3. So far, the return of Sinai has paid off.
                  1. 0
                    August 13 2016
                    Quote: professor
                    2. Every Jew will find a place in Israel. No matter how many there are. Negev is big.

                    Some are not enough, they go to the USA, Canada, some are quite well settled in Canada, they are satisfied.
                    Quote: professor
                    3. So far, the return of Sinai has paid off.

                    Probably so, you naturally know better.
                    1. +1
                      August 13 2016
                      Quote: saturn.mmm
                      Some are not enough, they go to the USA, Canada, some are quite well settled in Canada, they are satisfied.

                      Israel is a free country. Holds no one. Those who leave do this not because of cramped conditions, but because of the more fatty sausages in America.

                      Quote: saturn.mmm
                      Probably so, you naturally know better.

                      hi
            2. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Quote: professor
              We have the highest rates among developed countries since we IMHO love children. I repeat, the neighbor opposite has 6 children, on the left 5, on the right 3, through house 4 and none of them has ever been Orthodox.

              Soon it will be necessary to expand the living space.



              They aim at Crimea ... Mikoels promised them
        2. +4
          August 11 2016
          Quote: alexej123
          . And according to your curve, break into orthodoxy not orthodoxy

          Orthodox Christians are one problem, Jews there are Ethiopians, Arabs, and immigrant percentages of 20%, an Arab chases a slave and an Arab, all their successful fertilization attempts go to the demographic statistics of Israel. Here the professor, like Merkel, rejoices, there are more Germans wassat
          1. +2
            August 11 2016
            The Jew has, as always, a secret secret. Remaking Arabs into the most kosher Jews.
            Soon kaaaaak will apply. And there will be many more ...
      2. +1
        August 11 2016
        Quote: professor

        Who is it in the quiet of the emergency scribbling?

        Figly from the emergency, if you still see everything.
        Quote: professor
        Russia vs. Israel

        Arab women living in Israel for 15 children miscarried and Uraaaaa Jews became more wassat
        Quote: professor
        Figures are stubborn things.

        Of course stubborn. Russian resources lie, only Western ones tell the truth. They have all the opportunities and resources to calculate who and how many were born and how many died.
        1. +5
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Russian resources lie, only Westerns tell the truth.


          Russian resources never lie. God be with them!
          1. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: the same Munchausen
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Russian resources lie, only Westerns tell the truth.


            Russian resources never lie. God be with them!

            Trolyatin you here again
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            2. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Trolyatin you here again


              Here. Dilute periodically a barrel of honey. hi
            3. +1
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Trolyatin you here again

              Sanya, and you yourself as a professor in the emergency? wink
              1. 0
                August 12 2016
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                and you yourself as a professor in the emergency?

                I sent him there
          2. 0
            August 11 2016
            Quote: the same Munchausen
            Russian resources never lie. God be with them!

            If God is with us, then the photo is wrong, you need this type.
            http://rf-smi.ru/uploads/posts/2015-04/1429525268_putin.jpg
          3. +2
            August 11 2016
            Quote: the same Munchausen
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Russian resources lie, only Westerns tell the truth.


            Russian resources never lie. God be with them!



            What is there on Solovyov’s head? Receiver for contact with Moses?
  13. +1
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Alex_59
    And a huge flow of surcharges, benefits, etc. to a special degree be sent to a four-child family.
    What the hell is a huge stream of bonuses and benefits? Stupidly kindergartens are not enough. What a tremendous flow this is if care allowance is paid before 1,5 years, and kindergarten is given in 3-4 years? How should mom earn a living from 1,5 to 4?

    I think a mother of four children could sit comfortably at home and raise children (and this is a lot of work) And now receiving for this "a colossal stream of additional payments, benefits, etc." good RS Maybe remember in tsarist Russia nurseries and kindergartens "stupidly enough" laughing hi
  14. +9
    August 11 2016
    There is a demographic problem in the country, it must be resolved. And first you need to find the reasons.
    Why low birth rate? The Russian Federation is a country of universal literacy and fertility is consciously regulated by citizens who are to raise these children.
    And the main reason is immediately visible.
    The poorest in the country are citizens with children. The real salary level for most citizens is far from the average for the country. The situation with incomes is as follows: for the previous year, according to statistics, 33000 rubles., You talk with people, with the majority within the range of 6000-8000 rubles. You don’t know how to survive, but you need to feed, dress, and educate children. That is, not only expenses are expected, but also a decrease in income.
    Who to give birth? Tired of lies about the echoes of war - a prosperous society the edges are erased in a few decades.
    She must give birth to young people, and they are not even hired, there is no experience, and salaries are also low, the qualifications are not the same, and it is young people who are most often thrown by employers, attracting a good salary and limited meager advance payments. When experience emerges, giving birth to someone — the result of many years of sexual life and abandonment of pregnancy — problems with bearing, the birth of weakened and sick children. Instead of expensive perinatal centers, it would be necessary to set up state social housing for young people, ordinary social rental houses that are not subject to privatization, with payment of communal and rental, at least one in the urban area, once a year.
    The program to increase the birth rate is working with young people, creating jobs, obtaining qualifications, and monitoring salary levels.
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      Quote: olimpiada15
      . Instead of expensive perinatal centers, it would be necessary to set up state social housing for young people, ordinary social rental houses that are not subject to privatization, with payment of communal and rental, at least one in the urban area, once a year.
      The program to increase the birth rate is working with young people, creating jobs, obtaining qualifications, and monitoring salary levels.

      While in Russia there will be no affordable loans with an interest rate of up to 3%, everything will slip: both the economy and the birth rate.
      1. 0
        August 11 2016
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        While in Russia there will be no available loans with an interest rate of up to 3%

        3% are you shouting, at least they lowered to 6-7%, and then over time to 4-5 it would be a shift, but our banks are used to making money quickly, and their owners are not thinking about any long-term prospects. 3% would mean 33 years of payback - and thank you bankers for Maybach and Bentley spare parts / gasoline / insurance are needed, and the cottage in the Bahamas is idle.
        1. -3
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Corsair
          3% are you shouting, at least they lowered to 6-7%, and then over time to 4-5 it would be a shift, but our banks are used to making money quickly, and their owners are not thinking about any long-term prospects. 3% would mean 33 years of payback - and thank you bankers for Maybach and Bentley spare parts / gasoline / insurance are needed, and the cottage in the Bahamas is idle.

          You are like small children. Well, the mortgage in Europe is much lower than your dreams at 3%. Maternity benefits are huge. And the birth rate is going down.
          1. +3
            August 11 2016
            Quote: professor
            Well, the mortgage in Europe is much lower than your dreams at 3%. Maternity benefits are huge. And the birth rate is going down.

            Decades of sexual "education" in primary school have done their job) The benefits are huge in terms of rubles, and as a result, it is more profitable to keep dogs for which a tax deduction is due. Sex education in schools is such that Germans prefer foreign women from Russia and Ukraine. According to the law, in the event of a divorce, the wealthier must support the other half with the child in full. They know about it and actively use it.
            It’s not a question of welfare (as in Russia), but of regulation of the population (and plans for them to replace the population apparently)
        2. +1
          August 11 2016
          Naturally. for banks, the main thing is profit, not the demographic problems of Russia, and until we in our country fulfill the main message of Ilyich in order to really manage - "the station, telegraph and BANKS", it is difficult to expect radical changes for the better.
    2. +2
      August 11 2016
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The poorest in the country are citizens with children.

      Write nonsense, the poorest, not because they have children, but because the country has a problem with production, industry, agriculture, with normal well-paid jobs. Plus overpriced housing, tuition, etc.
      1. -1
        August 11 2016
        Quote: Corsair
        Write nonsense, the poorest not because children have

        I will support you. The highest birth rate in the poorest countries.
        1. +3
          August 11 2016
          Quote: Rivares
          Quote: Corsair
          Write nonsense, the poorest not because children have

          I will support you. The highest birth rate in the poorest countries.

          You read the comment.
          In the poorest countries, the mentality is different — they live one day, how much has turned out, so much has been born, and the climate is different. The Russians are thinking how they will live. We have a different mentality, a different lifestyle, a different stereotype of behavior. The republics of the Caucasus have a warm climate, other customs and birth rates are different. If a salary of 20000 is enough for one, then at the birth of a child, this is 6000 per person, and expenses increase. This applies to the vast majority of citizens of the country. The wage level is low for most citizens. Incomes fall among the population and families with children suffer more — this is acknowledged by the Ministry of Social Development — a recent statement. And how to live here, if in our climate it is necessary to have capital housing, winter clothes, short summers, unlike the tropics and bananas on Christmas trees do not grow. All this is written in the commentary, and about loans for organizing your business, which is% higher than expected profit. I am writing from my life experience. In the USSR, the enterprise had its own social network, the young were given a place in a dormitory, family-room or apartment. When they began to build housing, kindergartens gave birth to everything from 20 to 40 - some of them were 1st, some were 2nd, and three were children, because all conditions were created. The citizens of the Russian Federation would have had the following conditions: a decent salary, housing, nursery gardens would be different. And today, such conditions exist only for a small group of the population; most young people have neither work, s / n, nor housing, so there are few children. It is irresponsibility in our harsh climate not to think about how to raise children and on what means to live is Russia, not subtropics.
          All this is written in the commentary, both of you did not understand the meaning. Victims of education reform? You know the letters, but you’re not used to comprehending.
  15. +4
    August 11 2016
    Under what guise we stand, such are the forecasts. The issue of demography is interpreted by various political parties as beneficial to the representative of one or another party. If we take the attitude of the state to this problem and compare it with the 90s, then “heaven and earth”.
  16. 0
    August 11 2016
    How will they decide ??? Yes, representatives of the southern and other countries of SG will be brought here
  17. +3
    August 11 2016
    I live on the border with China and in the early 90s everyone was worried that the Chinese would settle here. In fact, today I sometimes meet them in the form of tourist small groups near the monument to Ilyich near the museum or in jewelry stores (they like our jewelry). All. There is no mass population of the Chinese. Conclusion: if there is firm power and a strong country, there is nothing to fear.
  18. +4
    August 11 2016
    No article about anything ...
    The point is not how MUCH is born and how much will die! and in that - WHO gives birth to them, and what people die! Question of quality! ...
    Here they give a medal or there, the insignia "Mother Heroine" ... they give money, an apartment of 6-7 rooms ... etc ...
    There are 12 children in the "family"! four of them are "sitting", three have just "reclined", the rest are getting ready ... And where will these "obscene capital", cash bonuses and an apartment go? To dads who appear every three months, to a non-drying mother-heroine, or to moronic-down-shaped children who can barely count and write?
    ... or - to nurture a deliberately "genetic marriage", five-month-old mutants ... with the prospect of getting their numerous descendants in subsequent generations (by the way, they are before our eyes - we watch them every day on TV, and nothing is wrong, then the deputies ... actors ... and political scientists come across!)
    And our state is clearly not ready to resolve the issue of the "quality of the population" ... Because many will have to give up and "a few make room" - precisely those who exercise power! Reusable acts of altruism and self-sacrifice are needed from those who, in principle, are not capable of this - the oligarchy and those exercising state power (often the same people ...)!
    ------------------------
    So - forecasts, forecasts ... And demography - and will continue to directly depend not on the health of the population, not on its income and the availability of social benefits, etc. - and from the political will of those who exercise, and, concurrently - her, this power, "holding"! ...
  19. +11
    August 11 2016
    This is all the result of our liberal politicians who live according to Adam Smith - the state is separate, the rest is separate, although around the world they have long lived according to Keynes, where the state is not an statistician and observer, but an active player. In order for people to give birth, it is necessary to increase demand, create jobs with high salaries, and for this, the state should begin to actively intervene in the economy, and not just control the ruble exchange rate through a small pill. Made maternal capital, good. But you still have to live up to the second child. But how to survive if the allowance is up to 1,5 years 13-15 thousand, and the cost of living 10 + child 9 thousand. There is a benefit for a mother with a child below the subsistence level. And after 1,5 years there is no benefit at all. It seems - give mom of the child to kindergarten and earn. And there are no places in kindergartens. Paid garden - 15 thousand. Well, mom goes to work, ZP let her have 30. 30 - 15 (for the garden) - again 15 remains, which for two (mother + child) is again below the subsistence level. And ZP more than 30 for a woman after the decree still needs to be found. Which exit? Dad must save, right? To pull such a family, he must earn about 40-50. This is a penny in Moscow, and in the regional centers it is still necessary to find such a salary. And if you are a young father, right after the university - FIG you and not such a ZP. Yes, even if there is work experience, such an RFP is not easy to find. This is either a manager or an oil industry. So much for the result of the liberal economy - oil and import trade. Not only benefits for children, but in the economic system as a whole. Our system is focused on trade and export of oil and gas. The state has withdrawn from solving problems in other sectors, or is doing it extremely passively.
  20. 0
    August 11 2016
    to listen to these Lebirasts, they have not yet predicted, are sleeping and see how Russia is dying, only they’ll get a hell out of it before they die

    Mind does not understand Russia,
    No yardstick to measure:
    She has a special feature -
    You can only believe in Russia.
    F.I. Tyutchev
  21. +3
    August 11 2016
    Yes, you can pretend that everything is fine, beautiful marquise, but this will not solve the problem of the extinction of the Russian / Russian people.
    If we count only by mortality / birth rate in Russia, and excluding Crimeans, then from 148 million citizens of Russia, now only 134-135 million people remain. The same was in the RSFSR in 1975.
    And if in the RSFSR in 1991 out of 148 million people, 1,7 million people died, in recent years, from 141-143 million people in Russia, an average of 2 million people have died.
    But the enemies of the communists, who love to shake Mendeleev's forecast, and the difference in the size between the forecast and the real population of the USSR, should be counted as "victims of communism", with regard to the Soviet republics they captured, they don't care about demography, for them the main thing is "but now everything is there."
  22. +1
    August 11 2016
    "Russians are not mammoths - they themselves will not die out." Strengthening the state, developing the economy, eliminating external threats - these are the tasks. And demographics will catch up.
  23. +2
    August 11 2016
    more problems not with demography, namely with responsibility?

    The problem in the forecasters laughing
  24. -3
    August 11 2016
    And who is Yuri Krupnov and how did he deserve this article, did anyone read it here at all? I didn’t read the writings of the liberalists and I’m not going to read.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      Companion Maxim Kalashnikov, however, they do not have a complete coincidence of views.
  25. 0
    August 11 2016
    This Krupnov is a typical grant-eater, such as he himself is not one of many children. You shouldn't pay attention to the "pearls" of such iksperds. With "cuckoos" something must be done, because children must be brought up in a family. Should they tie up the pipes?
  26. +1
    August 11 2016
    Negative statements about Russia's demography are also a hybrid war against us.
    It is led from within Russia by our "elite" fed by the West.
    You just look at what the economic bloc of the government is doing, what is constantly predicted from the mouth of the HSE - the Gaidar tailoring, what has our liberal opposition united with them?
    I remember their "whistle dancing" before the collapse of the USSR ...
    it is necessary to us?
    And if not, then why is all this tolerated and allow their dominance in our society?
  27. -7
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Figly from the emergency, if you still see everything.

    That's your decision.

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Russia vs. Israel
    Arab women living in Israel for 15 children miscarried and Uraaaaa Jews became more

    15 children are found only among orthodox and Bedouins. Arabs do not exist. Fertility in the Arab sector of Israel is steadily declining. Materiel however.
    ; ירידה בילודה במגזר הערבי

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Professor Figures are stubborn thing.
    Of course stubborn. Russian resources lie, only Western ones tell the truth. They have all the opportunities and resources to calculate who and how many were born and how many died.

    Russian and Western resources do not differ in the statistics on fertility and mortality in Russia.
  28. -1
    August 11 2016
    Nonsense! The truncation will be normal, the Rasea mother fell and rose more than once, the current is not so fast, there were many factors, the first thing to do is to strengthen the homeland from the Basurmans first, raise it economically, and there it all starts to rise.
  29. Riv
    0
    August 11 2016
    Let the author not sts. We Russians will not die out before we tidy up all the roads in Russia.
  30. lel
    +4
    August 11 2016
    I will note that under the "bloody" Stalin, the people multiplied with contentment ,,,, and after him too, and as soon as democracy came, the population growth ended. I think everything is connected with this, as soon as the head and body (not stuffed with GMO) are healthy, then you can have children ... and the modern government is capitalists, they have no business either about health or education ... and yet, under the USSR children were not paid extra and they were born without "such monetary" incentives and also because there was no sex ... until you return the USSR, we will die out, modern "girls" do not need children ...
    1. -5
      August 11 2016
      Quote: lel
      as soon as democracy came, population growth ended

      It is not true. Less than 2 children per woman in Russia were first noted in 1968, then in 1974. Was there democracy then?
      1. +1
        August 11 2016
        Quote: professor
        It is not true

        It’s only you, the enemies of the Communists, who always lie and slander the Soviet period.
        Between the censuses of 1979 and 1989, the population of the RSFSR increased from 137 to 147 million people, that is, on average, by a million a year, and after the capture by you, the "great philanthropists" in your anti-Soviet region, immediately from 1993 in Russia came " Russian cross "when the death rate exceeded the birth rate, and this continues to this day.
        1. -1
          August 11 2016
          Quote: tatra
          Between the censuses of 1979 and 1989, the population of the RSFSR increased from 137 to 147 million people, that is, on average, by a million a year, and after the capture by you, the "great philanthropists" in your anti-Soviet region, immediately from 1993 in Russia came " Russian cross "when the death rate exceeded the birth rate, and this continues to this day.

          Even with one child per woman, the population can grow. Just not for long. This is exactly what happened in Russia. The demographic pit "crept up unnoticed." wink
          The main thing is to blame the Democrats. The fact that the Communists destroyed the village (the main source of population growth in the world), we modestly ignore. As soon as Khrushchev issued the passports to the villagers, they rushed into the city from a good life in the village, and there another Soviet beach apartment question awaited them. And the birth rate began to melt not by the day, but by the hour.
          Damned Democrats. wassat
          1. +1
            August 11 2016

            +1 (child) -2 (parent) =?
            Not for long - how much?
            Until ejaculation is over?
            1. -2
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Trick Shot
              +1 (child) -2 (parent) =?
              Not for long - how much?

              Until the parents of this child die. While they are alive there has been an increase in population.

              Quote: Trick Shot
              Until ejaculation is over?

              Is this humor?
              1. 0
                August 11 2016
                Quote: professor
                Until the parents of this child die. While they are alive there has been an increase in population.

                Nonsense. They are not born on a whistle and die not on a command. The process is continuous. And also on the stat. data is also influenced by the death of grandmothers, who essentially die before their parents, but in fact also had one child.
                Quote: professor
                Is this humor?

                Someone like. This is my physiology. At this point, I am increasing the population THEORETICALLY thousands of times. The problem is to force everyone "on command" ... Well, this is the most ... While the statistics are adjusted according to the NECESSARY numbers ...
                1. -2
                  August 11 2016
                  Quote: Trick Shot
                  Nonsense. They are not born on a whistle and die not on a command. The process is continuous. And also on the stat. data is also influenced by the death of grandmothers, who essentially die before their parents, but in fact also had one child.

                  Not nonsense. When "grandmothers and grandfathers" with one child go to another world, they should be considered as "parents of one child." In the meantime, the parents of one child are alive, then having given birth to him, they increased the population. Their child will also give birth to one child, and the population will also increase. And only when they grow old and die will the population begin to decline sharply. Is that clearer?

                  Quote: Trick Shot
                  While the statistics are customized by the NECESSARY figures ...

                  Who! You and bourgeois sources have the same data.

                  Quote: lel
                  I do not think that your information is correct, give a link ... and I talked about the USSR (15 republics)

                  Already posted. See comment above.
          2. lel
            +1
            August 11 2016
            lying to the professor ... this your nation began to degenerate and wind up running away to Israel ... you probably about yours and say that you have become less ...
            1. 0
              August 11 2016
              On the contrary. They have not completely degenerated only through incest. But according to medical statistics "nation" with the largest "bouquet" of some diseases. Relatively rare among other nationalities, where it was not customary to live in isolation (kibbutzim and communities).
        2. 0
          August 11 2016
          I will not refer to the numbers, but I will take my personal example. Born in 1954 year. On my side of Proletarskaya Street there were 13 households. Next came the research institute. In these households there were children - boys of my peers (52-56 years). 7 man, I'm 8. Only in two houses were there two boys. Girls total 2. That is, on 13 households crammed with adults to the eyeballs of all 9 children! From the intelligentsia 3, the rest from the workers. An incomplete family was one - mine. But there were three adults in it. In families where, according to the 2 boy, there were three adults. And now the result - all adults have died. And how much is left? Today on this street there are only 5 households and ... 0 children! Although - yes mothers with prams to high-rise buildings are many. But there are many not so much as apartments, otherwise it would not have been crowded on the street. So the population began to decline back in the 50s. Yes, it grew, due to Wed. Asia, but in the Russian Federation - declining!
          1. +1
            August 11 2016
            Quote: kalibr
            the population began to decline back in the 50s. Yes, it grew, due to Wed. Asia, but in the Russian Federation - declining!



            And there is. All right
            1. -2
              August 11 2016
              Quote: Donhapa
              And there is. All right

              This is your usual FALSE and CARE, enemies of the Communists. The population of the RSFSR between the censuses of 1979 and 1989 increased by 10 million people.
              And after the seizure of the republics of Central Asia and the Caucasus, the natural increase in them sharply decreased, for example, in Kazakhstan, a quarter of a century before 1991, the population increased by 5 million people, and a quarter of a century after, only by a million people.
  31. -3
    August 11 2016
    "We have survived perestroika, we will survive this too," said a neighbor of my friend in the village, smoking a samosad
  32. +2
    August 11 2016
    Apparently the increase in the birth rate is associated with a decrease in the number of schools)
    1. lel
      +3
      August 11 2016
      I also noticed that the moral and morality of the people doesn’t depend on the number of churches and priests; there were fewer churches in the USSR and people are cleaner, now this kind of thing is complete, it’s complete and the case goes to the baseboard ... remember there were find rooms in the USSR? with the advent of democracy they were abolished ... why did they-found a wallet-privatized and conscience is clear ... I exaggerate of course a little
      1. lel
        +4
        August 11 2016
        I see hurt the conscience of the democrat- (minus) set ... purse return dog ...
        1. +1
          August 11 2016
          Shitokrats have no conscience from the word "absolutely", do not slander them. laughing
  33. +2
    August 11 2016
    At this moment:
    Russian population counter

    11-08-2016 09:00:57

    +146 366 707
    Population

    +67 793 212
    Male population (46.3%)

    +78 573 495
    Female population (53.7%)

    +1 137 780
    Born this year

    1 951
    Born today

    +1 240 727
    Died this year

    2 128
    Died today

    139 649
    Migrated this year

    240
    Migrated today

    36 703
    Population growth this year

    63
    Population growth today


    Source : United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs: Population Division external link .

    United States Population Counter

    11-08-2016 09:02:06

    +324 502 803
    Population

    +160 198 418
    Male population (49.4%)

    +164 304 385
    Female population (50.6%)

    +2 472 257
    Born this year

    4 167
    Born today

    +1 616 778
    Died this year

    2 725
    Died today

    621 989
    Migrated this year

    1 048
    Migrated today

    +1 477 468
    Population growth this year

    2 490
    Population growth today

    139 644
    Migrated this year

    235
    Migrated today

    36 701
    Population growth this year

    62
    Population growth today

    Statistics ... however.
    http://countrymeters.info/ru/

    Earth population

    11-08-2016 09:05:10


    7 452 030 657
    Population

    3 758 862 313
    Male population (50.4%)

    3 693 168 344
    Female population (49.6%)

    Earth's population will reach

    7 500 000 000

    05 March 2017


    Earth's population will reach

    8 000 000 000

    December 2022
    1. lel
      +4
      August 11 2016
      Let us not be mistaken at the expense of "what" population is the increase ... if you give citizenship to all Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Tajiks (you understand), then we will have population growth, but is such an increase in Russia needed? Once we assimilated well with the Tatars (now they are trying to tear them away from us), but with the former republics this is no longer possible, those who come are ALIEN ... I generally keep quiet about dill ...
  34. +3
    August 11 2016
    The picture, of course, is not as depressing as predicted, but, it seems to me, the situation is not very good. At least with the Russians.
    1. 0
      August 11 2016
      And the "picture" is as follows:
      The population of Russia in 2016


      In 2016, the population of Russia will increase by 59 995 people and at the end of the year will be 146 389 999 people. Natural population growth will be negative and amount to 168 people. For the whole year, approximately 1 children will be born and 859 people will die. If the level of external migration remains at the level of last year, then due to migration reasons the population will change by 228 people. That is, the total number of people entering the country for the purpose of long-term stay (immigrants) will be more than the number of people leaving the country (emigrants).

      Dynamics of change in the population of Russia in 2016 year

      Below are the rates of change in the population of Russia calculated by us for 2016:
      • Fertility: an average of 5 children per day (095 per hour)
      • Mortality: an average of 5 people per day (557 per hour)
      • Migration growth: an average of 625 people per day (26.06/XNUMX per hour)
      The population growth rate in Russia in 2016 will be 164 people per day.

      http://countrymeters.info/ru/Russian_Federation
  35. +4
    August 11 2016
    The author of the article is right. Russia is dying out. Dies not only physically \ demography is a stubborn thing \, but also spiritually. All figures about the increase in life expectancy from the evil one. How can people live longer <when ​​the vast majority eat worse than in 1990 <health care has practically collapsed. The sanitary epidemiological measures in the veterinary service and among the decreed population cohorts have practically been eliminated \ outbreak of anthrax, African swine fever, avian and swine flu, etc. \. There is almost no provincial medicine. Something remains in the regional centers. The main array of medical services goes into private practice, hence the limited availability. Dentistry is all paid. Well, further down the list. I will not write about drug provision. High-tech types of assistance under quotas <especially if it happens in Muscovy, they also require black cash, in the pocket of the healer. Not everyone is able to pay several hundred thousand for an operation or treatment. So, there is no quality food available for the majority, there is no mass quality health care, there are no mass sports and affordable practices, and they live longer and longer. According to statistics, about 1 million men \ out of 5 million of reproductive age \ are registered in our country. alcoholics and drug addicts. About 1 million are in jail. There remain 3 million men in all of Russia who can \ theoretically \ fertilize. And now the last figure. 20% of married couples suffer from infertility. Have you arrived? Uryaya-quacking. How many are there who are able to fertilize, become pregnant and give birth? Health Minister Skvortsova - they live longer, live more fun. Constant lies and fraud. I will not write about lack of spirituality and the influence of this factor on the desire to give birth and live.
    1. +3
      August 11 2016
      Quote: luxprofi
      The author of the article is right. Russia is dying out. Dies not only physically \ demography is a stubborn thing \, but also spiritually. All figures about the increase in life expectancy from the evil one. How can people live longer <when ​​the vast majority eat worse than in 1990 <health care has practically collapsed. The sanitary epidemiological measures in the veterinary service and among the decreed population cohorts have practically been eliminated \ outbreak of anthrax, African swine fever, avian and swine flu, etc. \. There is almost no provincial medicine. Something remains in the regional centers. The main array of medical services goes into private practice, hence the limited availability. Dentistry is all paid. Well, further down the list. I will not write about drug provision. High-tech types of assistance under quotas <especially if it happens in Muscovy, they also require black cash, in the pocket of the healer. Not everyone is able to pay several hundred thousand for an operation or treatment. So, there is no quality food available for the majority, there is no mass quality health care, there are no mass sports and affordable practices, and they live longer and longer. According to statistics, about 1 million men \ out of 5 million of reproductive age \ are registered in our country. alcoholics and drug addicts. About 1 million are in jail. There remain 3 million men in all of Russia who can \ theoretically \ fertilize. And now the last figure. 20% of married couples suffer from infertility. Have you arrived? Uryaya-quacking. How many are there who are able to fertilize, become pregnant and give birth? Health Minister Skvortsova - they live longer, live more fun. Constant lies and fraud. I will not write about lack of spirituality and the influence of this factor on the desire to give birth and live.



      I absolutely agree with you. But then who is to blame for all this, is it really the people?
      Or is it still our power? Or is the power not entirely ours?
  36. 0
    August 11 2016
    Something abstract from the category sounded and continues to sound: "to raise the prestige of a large family", and all in the same spirit. But how to raise, to whom to raise and to what level to raise? - Not everyone wanted to plunge into such deep-seated things, because there are already specific questions that require specific answers too.

    Reminds advice: If you want to become successful - tear your ass off the couch!
    - Well, I got up from the couch, what's next?
    - and then we don’t know, so far we have not gone so far))))
  37. vmo
    -2
    August 11 2016
    URO ... s, and who blathers twice !!! wassat
  38. lel
    +2
    August 11 2016
    Quote: professor
    Quote: lel
    as soon as democracy came, population growth ended

    It is not true. Less than 2 children per woman in Russia were first noted in 1968, then in 1974. Was there democracy then?

    I do not think that your information is correct, give a link ... and I talked about the USSR (15 republics)
  39. +1
    August 11 2016
    How many sociologists and demographers at once ...
  40. -2
    August 11 2016
    Yes, everything is normal with the birth rate. Every day I watch playgrounds clogged with kids. And at the mother-in-law, in a village near Moscow, girls with strollers in a row are right along the roadway, well, on the main street, they are scratching. You won’t drive around on wheels. And then another row, a straight collone is obtained. If again what superhuman people do not climb with their new order, there will not be any pit.
    1. +3
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Essex62
      Yes, everything is normal with the birth rate. Every day I watch playgrounds clogged with kids. And at the mother-in-law, in a village near Moscow, girls with strollers in a row are right along the roadway, well, on the main street, they are scratching. You won’t drive around on wheels. And then another row, a straight collone is obtained. If again what superhuman people do not climb with their new order, there will not be any pit.



      In Moscow, where they rushed from all over Russia, yes.
      And in central Russia and especially the long-suffering village, desolation and almost no audible squeals of children ...
      It is the Russian village that dies. Or is it more correct to say that they kill the Russian village
      1. -1
        August 11 2016
        Well, you know better, probably. But I have to travel a lot around the cities of the Golden Ring. There are children and many, and the village is reborn. Harvesters in the fields, the harvest is in full swing.
  41. +3
    August 11 2016
    Forgive me, I didn’t finish reading and caught myself thinking about this, - Why can't our women pay a million rubles for each child ?! What is the birth rate for today? And if we gradually get out of the crisis (which will never end) and add pennies to maternity capital, we will not go so far !!!! Give people the opportunity and tomorrow they will breed like the Chinese forgive me - is that bad? Give money, give a 4% mortgage and you will get a boom the very next day, it will be akin to the industrial revolution for construction will pull it all !!!! But apparently no one wants to count and no one needs it ...
    1. +1
      August 11 2016
      4 percent interest in this is in the Countries-we have in Papua New Guinea 11-12? -This is not an epotheque !!! - This is usury-bondage for life. Yes, if they were still building normally, they’ll build something like-built, handed over, you look the house fell, part of what should go for insulation, for example, is being stolen. I saw it myself, I know how to build it. On Avito ru then the materials are sold stolen
    2. +1
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Denis Cherepanov
      Forgive me, I didn’t finish reading and caught myself thinking about this, - Why can't our women pay a million rubles for each child ?! What is the birth rate for today? And if we gradually get out of the crisis (which will never end) and add pennies to maternity capital, we will not go so far !!!! Give people the opportunity and tomorrow they will breed like the Chinese forgive me - is that bad? Give money, give a 4% mortgage and you will get a boom the very next day, it will be akin to the industrial revolution for construction will pull it all !!!! But apparently no one wants to count and no one needs it ...


      Zionists attached to the Kremlin and the government will not give.
      Their task is to reduce the Slavic population of Russia and squeeze to the North. And from the Crimea to make the Javrei Republic.
      Build "New Khazaria"
  42. +4
    August 11 2016
    The publication is reminiscent of a denunciation in an instance regarding individual nationally oriented figures and parties, exemplified by Krupnov and the Party of Cause. Why he does this is incomprehensible, but he writes, criticizes Krupnov and the Party of Cause for their lack of enthusiasm for the activities of the authorities, while pulling out of the context the statements, as, however, are usually liberals, who did not consider it necessary to mention by surnames or sources, since everyone knows that the liberals mentioned are enemies.

    The author seeks to show that Krupnov is sounding false alarm in vain, the population is not only not dying out, but thanks to the perinatal centers it is growing and increasing. At the same time, it doesn’t particularly give figures, what happens taking into account the regions in Russia, where there is an income of people, and where is extinction. He does not say that in the regions of central Russia, in Russian regions, the population is declining completely, which means that the Russian part of Russia is dying out now, and according to Krupnov’s forecasts, it will die out faster in the near future.
    The author does not say anything about the extinction of Russians, does not see this problem, and Krupnov says and offers his own version of overcoming this difficult situation by helping all large families.

    The author is silent, but not without humor, destroying Krupnov’s proposals:
    After all, you can create a program in which to declare, for example, that all large families need to be exempted from paying any taxes, to allocate not one house, but five at once, as well as a car, apartment, cottage and pension in the amount of a controlling stake in Gazprom

    And why not force Gazprom to share with large families, and not to allocate a house and a plot from the state to such families, to free them from taxes, eh, the author? Or is Gazprom yours?

    There was also incriminating evidence about the Party of affairs, well, the indicated party is not going to participate in the upcoming elections, and this is a mess, the author believes, although one might ask why this party is not going to play thimbles with the authorities. If you don’t take part, then keep quiet, such advice is heard.
    Moreover, there are coincidences in the program of this party and Krupnov’s ideas, for example, this is what the Party of Business proposes as the first paragraph of its program:

    1. Set non-taxable income in the amount of 15 thousand rubles. per month. Introduce a progressive income tax scale: maintain the 13% rate on income up to 250 thousand rubles. per month; from 250 thousand to 1 million rubles. establish 30% and over 1 million rubles. per month - 50%. The increase in the tax burden will be felt by no more than 1% of Russians. We have prepared a draft Law on a progressive scale of income tax and on the establishment of a minimum tax-free income.

    The author, using his own polemic techniques, opposes this program. The author does not want 50% of their billions of monthly monthly earnings in favor of large families to be removed from the Millers, Sechins, Veliaminovyhs and other derivatives. It does not want Russia to breed and multiply. He does not want Russian families with 4 or more children in the country to appear and grow.

    And what does the author want? This is the essence of this publication - to help protect our local Russian gold (well, not a billion), but let’s put a thousand of the main, top beneficiaries from the destruction of the USSR and the appropriation of its former popular wealth by a narrow cooperative - lake group of talented managers and their friends.

    The author asks: (referring to the clearly irresponsible Krupnov and the Cause) So, maybe in our country more problems are not with demographics, but with responsibility?

    But here he is mistaken, we can answer him that it is precisely the lack of responsibility and the irremovability of power that causes serious problems with demography in the country.

    I would like to discuss on this topic, if, the author can state and disclose it.
  43. 0
    August 11 2016
    Quote: Corsair
    It’s necessary, but we also need control over some people who love the process stupidly, but not the children and their upbringing, or just making children in alcohol intoxication, we must apparently somehow sterilize them artificially at least temporarily (5-10 years) so as not to multiply the number of street children and patients with various abnormalities, the care of which will then fall on the state.

    Did you decide to spread the experience of fascist Germany in sterilizing and destroying all, so to speak, inferior ones?
    Was valuable experience ... time to revive it?
    Why then trifle? Sterilize - so massive!
    I believe that some from this forum may well fall under this "health-improving" procedure for society.
  44. +1
    August 11 2016
    The state has no time for demography, there are enough other problems. And the solution should be complex, many children should be profitable! At least not burdensome and at least honorable. And not like an eternally half-drunk unmarried acquaintance - 6 pieces from different (and even unknown) fathers, without housing (the house burned down due to negligence), and without work (too lazy to work), because there is no money for an abortion. But even a thoroughbred puppy is not allowed to start without certificates of income, inspection of housing, opportunities for proper maintenance, and more! There are perinatal centers, but try to put at least two "on their feet"!
  45. HAM
    0
    August 11 2016
    I would not like to be rude, but - that the "forecasters" from the West taught homosexual children to give birth throughzh? Then I am calm for them ..
  46. -3
    August 11 2016
    Yuri Krupnov
    wonderful n @ bridle. FSA money must be worked out.
  47. +3
    August 11 2016
    Billions of hospitals are open ... We have abolished our ambulance service — no money, all basic services have remained — if something specialized — go 70 km to a large village with two transfers through the city. UUUUhhh will run all the way and if you have 2 children, that’s a nice thing or to the city for 25 km. You will spend money on tickets !!! - Beauty !!! - Net money to the clinic, to the medical ambulance, but you stay there ...
  48. +2
    August 11 2016
    And a huge flow of surcharges, benefits, etc. to direct to a four-child family

    Not only do you need to inject money. In our village there is one woman who gave birth, in my opinion, she has nine children. And she gave birth to them for the sake of these benefits and privileges. Only here is the problem - she is absolutely not involved in upbringing, and the children are left to their own devices. You understand what will grow out of them. So this will be used in many ways by poor and dysfunctional families, and wealthy ... I doubt that they will all give birth to many. It is necessary to change the attitude in society towards the institution of the family.
  49. +2
    August 11 2016
    Children are the only value that remains after us.
  50. 0
    August 11 2016
    So, maybe in our country more problems are not with demographics, but with responsibility?
    good
    Here !!! Here is the essence of the article !!! No one has any responsibility whatsoever for what they either do or say, write!
  51. 0
    August 11 2016
    SHOW AGAIN!!! belay belay belay
  52. +4
    August 11 2016
    It is enough to look at the demographic pyramid of Russia to understand what 40% decline in the birth rate in the near future Krupnov is talking about. Official website of the Federal State Statistics Service: http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/ru/apps/6ca5fc804a47df3aa
    95cabf75a2eeced. We look at the data for 2015 and see that there are 27 million 1 thousand girls aged 284 in our country, while girls aged 15 are half as many - 632 thousand. In three years they will reach childbearing age, hence the figure a 40% reduction in birth rates. Moreover, there are not much more children from 8 years old to the youthful age of 22 years old, i.e. we had a failure at age 13. Therefore, the author unreasonably criticizes Krupnov.
  53. +1
    August 11 2016
    There are two main problems. The first is that the Internet is overflowing with Western feminist propaganda. Which our young girls read and, as a result, are not going to have children at all. And the second problem is that housing today costs as much as a person with an average salary cannot afford throughout his entire life, at best only for retirement. Accordingly, it would be scary to have children who would have nowhere to live, but where would children’s children live?
    We need to work closely on educating young girls so that they clearly understand that there is no greater happiness in the world than a strong, friendly family. A strong and independent woman is a fictional myth that leads to the abyss of hopelessness and loneliness. It is also necessary to introduce state regulation of prices for living space. At the moment, prices for it are 300-400% of the cost, this is chaos, don’t you think?
    1. Erg
      +2
      August 11 2016
      Quote: Torins
      This is chaos, don't you think?

      I find it. Here you need to understand that there is a deliberate policy aimed at reducing the population. And not only in Russia. Most of those commenting are either blind or work for the West. No need for “statistics” - just look around. I (if only I) have nieces and granddaughters aged 20-30 who do not have children. They don't even plan to get married. There is propaganda here (take everything from life), and common sense that you cannot feed your children. And there are countless numbers of Panameras and Gelendevagens driving through the streets. In the news about stolen billions, etc. According to the "house 2" box, where grown women and men look like 13-year-old imbeciles. But there is “no” money in the country. Well, I mean for children. We have a plane to send for IDs to Egypt, and for some Vanya we are collecting 1-2 lemmas for an operation through the central channels... I’m already sick.
  54. 0
    August 12 2016
    How to make more people give birth in Russia? Very simple.
    1) GIVE THE FAMILY HOUSING AND
    2) SALARY FOR PARENTS - TO PAY FOR SERVICES FOR HOUSING AND TO KEEP THE CHILDREN WELL.
    AND ALL YOUR BENEFITS WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
    DO THESE TWO POINTS.
    A family with one child should be given a good, strong, beautiful two-room apartment for FREE. A room for mom and dad, so that they can make noise and a room for the child, so that no one can disturb the child’s sleep, homework, and so on. Forever. A second child appears— the state takes this two-room apartment and gives it a FREE three-room good, strong, beautiful apartment. A room for mom and dad and a room for the children. Well, mom and dad are supposed to do it separately from the children, and the children have separate rooms so that no one interfered. A third child appears - the state fills up this three-room apartment - and gives this family a four-room apartment for FREE. A room for mom and dad - one room for the child. For always. That's it, I think - three children in a family is enough, however - it is no longer prohibited -if mom and dad want to. But then, let them improve their housing problems themselves. The state has already helped by giving a four-room apartment for free. The apartment is credited for

    parents - forever. In the event of the death of one parent, the apartment is transferred to the remaining parent. In the event of the death of two parents, the apartment passes to the child who already has a family. If the children do not have their own families, the apartment passes to the eldest for the child - forever, free of charge - without any additional payments.
    + to all this - you need to give a good, decent salary to your parents (mom and dad) - in order to maintain (pay for) services for the apartment (housing) and provide for the children well.
    You can give cottages instead of apartments, for example, at the request of the parents.
    Then all the problems with the birth will be solved. And with the maintenance of the children, when they make a good salary for their mother and father.
    and apartments or cottages must be GOOD, DURABLE, RELIABLE, BEAUTIFUL
    YOU. And some assholes like Khrushchev-assholes. No, that’s right
    - will not work. Housing should be given to families - GOOD.
    And there will be a sense and desire for parents to do and give birth to three children in a family.
  55. 0
    August 13 2016
    Yes. In the event of a housing accident, natural disasters, emergency situation - when housing - a house - breaks down, becomes uninhabitable - not through the fault of the residents - the state - must replace this housing for the family with the same housing - equal. House - with such the same house. Apartment - for the same apartment. Four-room - for four-room, three-for three - and so on. FREE. And the same - forever.
  56. 0
    August 13 2016
    Quote: Torins
    There are two main problems. The first is that the Internet is overflowing with Western feminist propaganda. Which our young girls read and, as a result, are not going to have children at all. And the second problem is that housing today costs as much as a person with an average salary cannot afford throughout his entire life, at best only for retirement. Accordingly, it would be scary to have children who would have nowhere to live, but where would children’s children live?
    We need to work closely on educating young girls so that they clearly understand that there is no greater happiness in the world than a strong, friendly family. A strong and independent woman is a fictional myth that leads to the abyss of hopelessness and loneliness. It is also necessary to introduce state regulation of prices for living space. At the moment, prices for it are 300-400% of the cost, this is chaos, don’t you think?

    Yes. The West has brainwashed our girls. We've seen enough American cinema. Like clubs, parties


    Vki and dough are in abundance. They only look for the cool and the rich. And when a simple guy comes up to them, they send him away. And until the end, our girls don’t watch American movies. American women are both beautiful and sexy , and they walk around in miniskirts with heels, tsk tsk tsk, but they love their husbands. They get married. They create families. They give birth to children. And together with their husband, after maternity leave, they work, and together with their husband, they settle their family, and they don’t wait for a billionaire to fall from the sky on their heads. Look at the American family: mom, dad, and three in the middle, or even more, with a bunch of kids. But our girls only see parties and get-togethers.
    And the state needs to give families with children housing; where should families with children live???? And a salary for mom and dad - so that they can support, pay for housing and support children. The USA takes care of its citizens. It’s high time for us - and Russia and everyone else.
    You need to do this and everything will be great.
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    August 14 2016
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Well, what can you say the Western soothsayers are worthless .. Do not wait! Only after you ..

    Where will the children in the West come from if there are same-sex marriages? hi

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